lore-discussion

[split mortar]

Is it just me or does scal feel a bit lacking in weapons compared to exos?

[rotund shore]

ashes of annihilation have like no recipes outside of shadowspec is the thing

[split mortar]

And there’s few exhumed things that are usable

iirc

[rotund shore]

yeah some exhumed stuff ig

[sly geyser]

well she def makes up for it in the names of these weapons, they're so fucking cool

[rotund shore]

so even if exos only drop one more weapon, they still definitely unlock more

[split mortar]

Yeah

[rotund shore]

why do exo twins only drop 2 weapons while the others get 3

[split mortar]

Though ashes may give more stuff in the future simce demonshade is being changed to post scal when yharim comes

[split mortar]

Idk

[rotund shore]

yeah ashes will get more use eventually

[sly geyser]

I'm guessing lack of fitting ideas

[rotund shore]

ANYWAYS LORE GRAHHHHH

[sly geyser]

#SaveBees

[split mortar]

Litteraly the twins staff but exo

[rotund shore]

draedon was gonna give exo twins a mage weapon but decided it would be erm cringe

[sly geyser]

"I ain't givin a pair of eyeballs more than 2 weapons, naahhh"

[split mortar]

Why did they remove vivid clarity explosion thing

I swear it used to have a explosion instead of what it is today

Or am I going insane

[sly geyser]

maybe both

who knows

[split mortar]

Why do y’all think gods get a different domain to dragons?

[pliant ruin]

Probably because their soul kind of blends in with the original and makes something new

Like

[split mortar]

Oh chedder here

[pliant ruin]

the traces of the og soul probably affect the auric soul somehow in a way that makes it chagne

also hi : D

[sly geyser]

hellooo

[rotund shore]

providence absorbed the soul of like, the dragon of fire or smth right?

[split mortar]

I theorised that during an imperfect god ritual a bit of the world soul auric thing of the dragon would get chipped off thus giving a different domain but the god was still stronger then dragon since they had 3 souls not 2 or something

And a perfect one (same domain, eg xeroc and silva) left the part that had domain intact and so they had same domain

And maybe a bit stronger aswell

[pliant ruin]

flame ya

p much same thing

[rotund shore]

I guess it could make sense if like, you took flames, and then infinite craft merged it with providences pessimistic nature, you'd get ash

[split mortar]

And providence is the goddess o what? Incineration?

[rotund shore]

ash iirc

Which makes sense, the remains of something that was destroyed by the flames

[split mortar]

Providence don’t look like they’re the god of that

[sly geyser]

flames, iirc

[split mortar]

They didn’t perfect ascend, different domain to dragon I think

[sly geyser]

"Providence consumed the Auric Soul of the Dragon of Flame."

in the lore document

[rotund shore]

that doesnt mean they'll have the same domain

for example, god of sacrifices absorbed the soul of the dragon of death

they're similar in some ways, but different

[pliant ruin]

Providence consumed flame but it's not her domain ye

only silva and xeroc have

the same domain

as their dragon

cuz perfect ascencion

iirc

its

basically canon atp

that provi's is ashes

it's t echnically not yet but

[sly geyser]

yeah but, look at Providence and tell me she's not the Goddess of Flames or at least something related to that

[pliant ruin]

all the devs sort of ''unofficially" headcanon it

[rotund shore]

if you're goated with the sauce then you'll share a domain with the dragon

[pliant ruin]

Related ye

but not the same

[rotund shore]

I mean, ashes are the result of destruction that flames cause

[pliant ruin]

which is y its (most likely) ashes

[rotund shore]

and her entirely goal is to destory shit

[split mortar]

Yeah but she doesn’t look like the goddess of ash

[sly geyser]

Wanted to say that

[rotund shore]

I mean technically shes the rock

that doesnt look like flames either

[split mortar]

Not ash

[sly geyser]

it literally is flames

[pliant ruin]

tbf

shes getting a redesign

so

[split mortar]

Half the design is her burning wings

[sly geyser]

her wings are literally made out of flames

[rotund shore]

provi resprite (she is now ash)

[split mortar]

Hope it’s one of the later ones she does fit the current quality of sprites

[sly geyser]

I mean you could say that's just some god-energy, but looking at how she consumed the soul of flames, I'm pretty sure these are made out of fire

[cosmic zenith]

Yes, it is fire

[sly geyser]

and while fighting her harder version, her wings turn blue, which means even hotter flames

[split mortar]

Oh dev here

[cosmic zenith]

Though Providence is certainly not the Goddess of Flame

Most domains mutate when the Auric soul is absorbed, which is Providence's case

[sly geyser]

alright, thanks for clarification

[cosmic zenith]

So her domain is definitely related to, but not exactly, Flame

No problem!

[split mortar]

Only ones confirmed to have same domain as dragon is silva and xeroc iirc

[sly geyser]

My guess is lava/magma, maybe?

flames, rocks

would make a tiny bit of sense

didn't know she's getting a redesign which might actually turn her into something different, but for now that's my best shot

[warm gull]

literacy

[pliant ruin]

Again while it's not outright

confirmed

she's ash

it's like

80% chance that ya she is ash

[sly geyser]

I mean, ughh, I'm just having a hard time believing this

[rotund shore]

to me ash just fits rather well thematically

[wheat walrus]

I assume ash in the sense that she turns things into ash

[rotund shore]

flame + her goal of destruction, fire destroying stuff makes ash

[wheat walrus]

and was given the power to do so

[wheat walrus]

ya

[sly geyser]

Okay now it does make a little more sense

[split mortar]

Then wouldn’t that mean she would be the goddes of burning? Since that’s what turns things to ash

[wheat walrus]

ig

[split mortar]

Though I’m pretty sure the redesign will clear it up

[warm gull]

what kind of domain would ash even be

[wheat walrus]

are we getting a prov redesign

[warm gull]

is ash an important concept

like Storms or Life or Primordial Light are all very key aspects of the world

but ash seems really niche

[wheat walrus]

I thought that current provi sprite was too complicated and no one wanted to make something that rivaled it, therefore making it not worth it

[wheat walrus]

storms are from the dragons, life and primordial light also are of dragons but the gods that got those inherited those from a perfect ascension

gods iirc are meant to have less natural elements than dragons

[sly geyser]

I mean, Yharon is the phoenix, and there's that thing where a phoenix rebirths from the ash

I'm not saying Provi is in any way related to Yharon, but I'm just saying that the ash might be an important domain

[warm gull]

Even slimes are very prevalent

Electricity

The sea

but ash?

[sly geyser]

yk, ashes to ashes, dust to dust

[split mortar]

Both have fire powers so that may be what comes from the connection

[warm gull]

Goddess of particles of burnt carbon fuel

[sly geyser]

it doesn't have to be literal ash

[split mortar]

They’re a random species that anyone can easily deal with

[warm gull]

I view slimes as like the ultimate decomposers

They just eat anything and when they die their bodies are probably very nutrient rich

Gel is described as tasty and flammable

[rotund shore]

I desperately wish there was a lore reason for auric to be in crates

[split mortar]

They’re prob also sour

Die to acidity

[split mortar]

Random metals in the crates also got the dragon energy

And turned to auric

[sly geyser]

so regular metal just turned into auric after Yharon's death?

I thought the auric ore spawned

[warm gull]

I don't think auric not existing before is canon

[split mortar]

I’d assume so

[warm gull]

Same with hardmode ores

Probably just for gameplay

[split mortar]

I assume that dragons dying birthed auric, auric existed in this continent but it being ground zero for yharim meant that all the auric got taken for him so yharon gave us access to it

[frozen zodiac]

fishing must be so fucked up to try and explain in the lore because you can literally create a pool and fish and crates will show up

[warm gull]

We do know that aerialite actually is cursed and inert before we kill evil 2 though

[split mortar]

Simple, don’t explain and say gameplay

[sly geyser]

can we just consider fishing non-canon

[split mortar]

Isn’t it also draconian on power like auric

[split mortar]

Mostly

[warm gull]

what

oh

I don't know

[sly geyser]

I mean, if I were on a "mission", I out of all thing wouldn't have time to fish

[warm gull]

If it is it's probably something to do with chrysadia and vetrasyl

[eager bluff]

its like an scp all the water in the world (of a certain volume) leads to an extradimensional anomaly when fished in and you just catch stuff in the anomaly and bring it back up

[warm gull]

Calamity can take place over any amount of time and rebecca said she imagines it takes at least a year

[sly geyser]

Yeah yeah I know

My lore is avoiding abyss and fishing as much as I can

[frozen zodiac]

LET ANY FISH WHO MEETS MY GAZE LEARN THE TRUE MEANING OF FEAR

[eager bluff]

the anomaly is only accessible by fishing lines and cannot be observed

[sly geyser]

I've got enough trauma about fishing from Ultrakill

[split mortar]

My lore is misinterpreting awakening lore item to be of our perspective

[split mortar]

Didn’t think that would be traumatic

[sly geyser]

the size 2 destroyed me honestly

[split mortar]

Oh that

[frozen zodiac]

IHAVETOSEEITIHAVETOKNOW

IHAVETOSEEITIHAVETOKNOW

[calm patio]

no

[split mortar]

It’s not possible to get

[sly geyser]

i know

[split mortar]

Oh ok

[frozen zodiac]

no you dont get it ITS OUT THERE we will find it eventually

[split mortar]

It’s the herobrine of ultrakill

[sly geyser]

please shut up.....

I'm going to cry

[warm gull]

who created all the crates

[sly geyser]

Xeroc, as a funny little giggle

[warm gull]

An ancient race of sapients who lived in the intangible sea

[sly geyser]

thought it would be funny to put shit in boxes and throw it into the water

[split mortar]

Xeroc scales the crates whenever WE beat a boss and progress

[sly geyser]

and he knows exactly when we defeat bosses

voila!

problem solved

[warm gull]

xeroc opens every crate and individually restocks their contents with new ores and items

[split mortar]

Yeah xeroc stalks us

[sly geyser]

he also cares about world-building so he made sure to paint them the color of the biome

[split mortar]

And repaints them when we beat wof

[frozen zodiac]

i mean if he's/they're god surely it wouldn't take much effort to do that

[sly geyser]

....OR HE'S JUST MANIPULATING LIGHT FOR US TO THINK WE GOT "A HALLOWED CRATE" WHILE IT'S JUST A REGULAR CRATE WITH DIFFERENT CONTENT

[split mortar]

Xeroc isn’t God just god if sun

[split mortar]

Nah xeroc painstakingly hand crafts and paints every crate

[warm gull]

It would there are a theoretically infinite amount of them and gods in calamity are just a strong type of creature that has nothing like omnipotence

[sly geyser]

devs please make so every single crate has a 0.000001% of dropping the rock

better, the boss rush tablet

[sly geyser]

they aren't omnipotent, but they are immortal and bored

so

[split mortar]

Only from sulphurous crates

[warm gull]

yes but xeroc would have to do all of this crate restocking within the instant that we do the game progression

[eager bluff]

the foundation doesnt know they cant access it via camera or personnel

[warm gull]

The hadal sea

[eager bluff]

and i doubt youd be seeing a GoI format with something like that

[split mortar]

He prepares before we beat wof

[sly geyser]

better, make it the only way of getting the tablet and change the description to "morning, I'd say good morning but if it were a good morning, I'd be paintin' crates"

Calamity Fishing Update when

[split mortar]

That’s the sunken sea overhaul

[eager bluff]

and even if you would, MC&D dont give a shit about researching it because its a phenomenon not an individual item, GOC would be trying to fucking destroy it, WWS doesnt care because its not wildlife, idk if the Wanderer's Library would document its origins

[sly geyser]

and then, every boss in the boss rush is resprited with the bass

[eager bluff]

Wondertainment doesnt have formats, nalka doesnt either, neither does CotBG and its subsects, the daevites are all fucking dead, 4000-Eshu doesnt have contact with the world outside of 4000, 1000s dont have written or spoken language

if you cant tell im a huge scp nerd

[frozen zodiac]

do you know about the emotional support soup

[eager bluff]

no but i know about the transgender rock and the hrt river

[frozen zodiac]

damn good for the rock on their transition

[eager bluff]

oh no the rock doesnt transition itself it transitions other people

very painfully

the water is basically the same it just doesnt make you wish you were dead while its happening

[split mortar]

The foundation would get great funding if the just used the rock as a trans surgery thing and put people under anaesthesia before using it on them

[sly geyser]

Supreme Calamibass

[split mortar]

Pft

[eager bluff]

they dont need funding they have literally infinite money

[split mortar]

We have supreme calamitas, supreme clamitas and now supreme calamibass

[frozen zodiac]

not so shrimple now

[split mortar]

Not infinite since they couldn’t afford hanged kings cost for killing 682

[sly geyser]

what if Xeroc is just a giant fish

with wings

I'm talking nameless deity-style

[split mortar]

Xeroc, more like nameless fisheity

[frozen zodiac]

first name Realistic middle and last name Fish Head

[true hatch]

That doesn't mean they don't have infinite money.

Since it could have asked for something non-monetary

[split mortar]

inflation is a thing aswell

[true hatch]

God. I just realised

You know what Signus asked for to get Braelor out of the Distortion? Money.

But Braelor is a broke ass bitch who couldn't afford the $50 ride home

[split mortar]

Like I can understand near endless amount but not a litteral endless amount

[eager bluff]

i aint finding any record of this anywhere

[frozen zodiac]

fym 50 dollar we use coins as currency

[split mortar]

Nah he could but it’s all he had, and silva gave that to him for him to live off of before she revives so he refused

Plus he was 1 cent off

[visual bane]

hi moon lord

[split mortar]

Lick your spinal fluid

[visual bane]

can't, they're stored in the spine

[true hatch]

Yeah. Copper is pennies, ergo cents.

Silver is silver dollars, therefor dollars

Gold and Platinum are just note replacements. Shrimple as

[wheat walrus]

atac on taiten

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/984178408068096071/1279550012820291636/fatalis_hits_the_griddy_epically.gif

[true hatch]

Based Braelor not wanting to give up his social security check for public transport?

[split mortar]

I don’t remember the exact name, thought it was hanged king may be wrong

It was one that could give something like a d class freedom but at the cost of their memories of their mother

[frozen zodiac]

is he hitting the griddy

[wheat walrus]

yeah

[split mortar]

Uh yeah I guess

Granted idk how a piggyback on signus is much of a normal public transportation

[true hatch]

Clearly Braelor is a man that doesn't take public transport. Even that is too bad for the environment for him.

He rides a bike everywhere

[frozen zodiac]

does signus have eyes

[sly geyser]

had to, sorry

bad photoshops are kind of my hobby really

[split mortar]

Nah the materials used to make one are still too much for him

He just sprints

[eager bluff]

ok thats actually 738, not 701

[split mortar]

Why apologise this is perfect

[rotund shore]

looks like eyes to me

[true hatch]

Honestly Braelor seems kind of chill, hopefully we don't have to fight him (Or if we do we can spare him)

[split mortar]

Those are teath on the face

[true hatch]

Pretty sure they're face tentacles

[sly geyser]

and he just has duke fishron ai cranked up to a 1000

[split mortar]

The charge attacks shows it as a mouth

[rotund shore]

oh right those are teeth

[eager bluff]

anyways its never specified what the payment is, just that the foundation cant afford it

[rotund shore]

tbh signus is such a rad design shame the fight kind of sucks

[split mortar]

It’s getting a rework when dog dies iirc

I like the fight currently I think

[eager bluff]

fym dog dies dog isnt dying

[split mortar]

Does not dies

[eager bluff]

its getting a rework when its resprite is finished

[woeful patio]

Wait Signus is post dog in the rework?

[rotund shore]

I find the fight to be obnoxiously easy

[eager bluff]

no

[split mortar]

No I bad with words

[woeful patio]

Oh

[split mortar]

Signus rework when dogs happens iirc

[rotund shore]

for me the distortion trio is basically "signus is easy, cv is pretty easy but less so, storm weaver is kind of annoying"

[true hatch]

Devourer of Gods when what he tries to eat isn't a god:

[frozen zodiac]

you're giving me a focking sandwich you twat

[split mortar]

Scuse me wha

[rotund shore]

in other words, first try, first try but slightly scuffed, second try

[split mortar]

Sounds like you could benefit from fighting them early

[frozen zodiac]

im sorry i just cant stop my headcanon that dog sounds like metal face from xenoblade and subsequently, british

[split mortar]

Oh fair

As a Brit that did give Brit energy

[sly geyser]

also

since we make the terrarian lore

my lore is that he devoured me but choked since I'm not a god

and died

[split mortar]

Fair enough

[frozen zodiac]

QTE inside dog's mandibles

[split mortar]

The most in depth of any lore I have is when I misinterpreted awakening

Then when I realised that it was up to us I just kinda didn’t and went as deep as three words “generic hero guy”

[frozen zodiac]

Massive Hero Soccer Guy

[sly geyser]

some isekai-ish shit

[true hatch]

Also, I just realised how condescending Clone Cal is calling us child.

It's like... bitch you're not even 30 stfu

[stark basalt]

https://tenor.com/view/terraria-moon-lord-josh-hutcherson-whistle-gif-11278917756883322479

[split mortar]

Alright

[split mortar]

Think boss dialogue is old lore

Except drae

[sly geyser]

I mean

I wouldn't mind calling her mo-

[split mortar]

In old lore I wouldn’t be surprised she is liek 3000 or something old lore is funky

[true hatch]

It's possible Clone Cal is like...

5

[frozen zodiac]

Mommy i mean silva i mean

[sly geyser]

She's still a clone of a fully matured, really old woman tho

[split mortar]

In new lore that’s like max

[sly geyser]

It's not like they cloned her when she was 5

[split mortar]

Scal is not even 30

[sly geyser]

...really?

[split mortar]

Yeah

[rotund shore]

yeah shes in her 20s

[split mortar]

She was like 13 when she got her powers

[sly geyser]

how is she in her 20s

[split mortar]

And I think around 18-20 when she left

[true hatch]

Pretty sure devs said she's like, 28

[rotund shore]

by...being born 20-29 years ago?

[split mortar]

Yeah two lore writers agreed 27-28

[rotund shore]

she was there for the tailend of the crusade, even if she was such a key player

[tall crest]

thank you

[true hatch]

Crusades didn't end that long ago. It's entirely possible your character is like, 30 and lived through them

[sly geyser]

ohhh

That's what I missed

I thought the crusade was a pretty old story

[split mortar]

Hell it could be possible it only ended months ago

[rotund shore]

theres rather little time being crusades ending and start of the game

[true hatch]

No the Crusades are like... modern history

[split mortar]

Crusade started a century ago

[sinful adder]

apparently the stuff with braelor and statis was mere months ago

[rotund shore]

plenty of like, random NPCs probably lived through it realistically

[sly geyser]

Ohhhh

Now I see, thanks

[sinful adder]

all of them

[split mortar]

Even angler and princess were born during it

[rotund shore]

I guess yeah but the angler was like, baby

[sinful adder]

yeah

[split mortar]

Like it’s a year or two max before it ended

[true hatch]

Says who?

[split mortar]

Prob devs

[sinful adder]

a lore writer at some point

[rotund shore]

how did statis and braelor even track yharim down, where did that fight take place

[split mortar]

Yharim was still very active before they fought I’m pretty sure

We don’t know location iirc

[true hatch]

I don't think he went from commanding an army to literally nothing in the span of like, 6 months though

[split mortar]

Yharim was active not the army

[true hatch]

It's entirely possible the Crusades were over before Braelor and Statis jumped him

[split mortar]

He would be strong enough to solo any god

[split mortar]

If it were over then they wouldn’t need to

[true hatch]

Maybe not Xeroc

[split mortar]

Yeah but he is the exception

[true hatch]

They could still be looking to kill him so that it didn't start again

[split mortar]

Pretty sure they would know he doesn’t have the life span for that

[true hatch]

Or just kill him because he doesn't deserve to live out the rest of his days in peace

[split mortar]

Since it started a century

They know he is in his hundreds

[true hatch]

Do they even know he's human though? Like, do we even know he's human?

[split mortar]

Yeah he is

He is human

[true hatch]

Yeah alright

[split mortar]

I doubt he would have a reason to hide it

Cause to my knowledge almost anything humanoid has a similiar life span

[true hatch]

I was thinking less 'hide it' and more 'everyone literally just forgot it's been that long'

The armour is his face, not what he actually is

[split mortar]

Oh fair

[rotund shore]

I imagine after yharims got this armor, he only takes it off when needed, both to stay vigilant, always with being on the defensive, and because he looks like darth vader under there

[split mortar]

Fair

[frozen zodiac]

if my character saw yharim under his helmet they would start having a stomachache from how horrible he looks and how fashion CANNOT fix him

[split mortar]

I would imagine he could heal most of the damage away with magic though

[wheat walrus]

No that's literally ingame

[split mortar]

Oh

[wheat walrus]

Draetalk

[split mortar]

Damn

Oh right that exists

[rotund shore]

draetalk my goat

[frozen zodiac]

if it isnt impairing him maybe he's keeping it as a twisted reminder of why he keeps fighting

[wheat walrus]

Fr

[split mortar]

Maybe? Though yharon is right there as his platonic soulmate

And I doubt yharon would let him forget

[true hatch]

Maybe it's because it's arguably the strongest set of armour ever made, and he doesn't want to get stabbed in the back

[split mortar]

If xeroc has armour I’d say that would be stronger but the armour might be just pieces of the sun

[frozen zodiac]

no i meant his scars not armor

[true hatch]

It's also entirely possible (but not probable), that the armour is like... a coping mechanism to disassociate "Yharim, the God-Sekeer" from "Yharim, the guy"

[frozen zodiac]

Yharim the Man vs Yharim the idea

perchance

[cosmic zenith]

Nope
The most recent big event in the Crusade was the Incineration of Ilmeris, which happened around a decade ago

[split mortar]

That we know of currently

[frozen zodiac]

is 10 years enough for the wildlife of the sunken sea to regrow?

[sly geyser]

I see

[split mortar]

Most of it was there before

[dusk laurel]

they didn't necessarily regrow

it was more like they survived

[rotund shore]

they kind of just, moved down

[cosmic zenith]

The Sunken Sea is the unscorched part of the Ilmeran Sea

[split mortar]

The sunken sea we sea wasn’t burnt so the life there was fine

[cosmic zenith]

The Underground Desert is the scorched part

[split mortar]

There was probably antlions between the sea and the surface of the desert

So desert life prob just expanded downwards for the most part

[cosmic zenith]

Yeah

[split mortar]

While what’s left of sea life stayed down

[rotund shore]

Besides DS

[cosmic zenith]

There are also some creatures that fled to there during the Incineration

[rotund shore]

Besides dual screen system

[split mortar]

Exceptions exist ofcourse

[rotund shore]

And crabulon just moved to ooo pretty mushrooms I sure hope they aren’t cordyceps-ville

[split mortar]

Turns out the mushrooms infact were cordyceps

[frozen zodiac]

honestly was the crab even in pain, maybe it wasnt a mercy kill

[split mortar]

Are the health fruits in any possible way canon?

[split mortar]

Maybe, if it’s like the ant one then it’s brain was taken over by the shroms

So also maybe not

[frozen zodiac]

mmmm tasty dragonfruit 🤤 just one more bite explodes into a fucking million gory pieces because you arent supposed to eat dragonfruit more than once

[split mortar]

Elder berry’s 🤤

Corrodes into dust because you age like 59 years from it

[cosmic zenith]

For example, Sea Floaties and Clams

A fraction of the Hermititan species too

(I'm taking as reference the Bestiary for the upcoming Sunken Sea Overhaul, so some things haven't been shown/mentioned yet)

[warm gull]

eplosoin

what if stipulate venus was real

[wheat walrus]

I remember when I used to mispell stipulatevenus as "stipulentvenus"

[frozen zodiac]

mike wazowski

[wheat walrus]

https://tenor.com/view/wazowski-mike-mike-sulivan-meme-monster-inc-gif-19634164

[frozen zodiac]

idiot mike only has one eye not 2

[wheat walrus]

ik

I just thought of that image from 2020

https://tenor.com/view/monsters-inc-heyy-how-you-doin-point-gif-18745568

this the actual guy

they just swapped his face with the other guy

[frozen zodiac]

Yeah i know

i watched the original monsters inc several times per day when i was younger i would know

[cosmic zenith]

Smh...

Speaking of names

It's gonna be so funny when Vetrasyl actually is mentioned ingame

People are gonna think he's my sona (he's not)

In hindsight I probably shouldn't have started using this name so early

I've even seen a few call me by my obscure dev nickname, Dauntless Starlight

[frozen zodiac]

...who's vetrasyl i have no clue

[cosmic zenith]

Upcoming lore character

Not mentioned anywhere currently

[real silo]

Replace vetrasyl's name with stipulatevenus then

clicking on the dragon statue and it says "stipulatevenus, dragon of storms"

[dusk laurel]

dragon of styrms

[woeful patio]

The Master Spark, ofc

[sly bloom]

Touhou Project reference?!?!?!?!

[wheat walrus]

toau

[warm gull]

why does stimulant mercury refer to himself as the dragon of storms

[eager bluff]

you're welcome

[warm gull]

is he putting his self insert in the game like fabsolman

[pliant ruin]

he's stronger than fabsol because his guy is actually canon

but i dont think so i think its like the opposite

his server nikcname is based of dragon guy not dragon guy is based of his alias

specially cuz he goes by stip/stipulatevenus elsewhere

[true hatch]

More Dragons?

[pliant ruin]

yah

well

not ingame

but ye

lore characters

vetrasyl is the dragon of storms

there's also the dragon of flames which i assume we might get more details on given they're quite important

since

well

only currently confirmed p much to be evil dragon

and also

source of providence's soul

more or less 3rd most important after zeratros and yharon currently

and there's also

dragon of gluttony

but other than being the source of SG's soul we dont know much abt it

[cosmic zenith]

Nah
I don't have a sona

[pliant ruin]

i figured it was the other way around

[warm gull]

I am aware it was an attempt at humor

[pliant ruin]

oh ok

[cosmic zenith]

I will probably die without having one given how I always get stuck in the iteration phase

[pliant ruin]

sorry my brain is small

as shown by the fact im supposed to be coding and instead im sitting here talking about dragons

[cosmic zenith]

But basically, Vetrasyl is a character I made for Calamity lore, and I use his name as an homage

[warm gull]

My brain has been removed besides the stem

It's just basic survival instincts

[cosmic zenith]

It's as if Rebecca was going by "Otonilou, Goddess of Electricity" here

[warm gull]

why did vetrasyl died is he stupid

Also why are there still storms if he's dead

do the domains just operate autonomously

and also

[real silo]

Storm weaver

[warm gull]

does having a domain give you utter control over it

[real silo]

The answer is right there

[real silo]

Also yeah

the dragon of flame is dead but fire still exists

[cosmic zenith]

Yeah, domains don't require the Dragons to exist

All Life on the planet simultaneously dropping dead once the Life Dragon's soul is absorbed:

[warm gull]

The what is the dragon/god's purpose in holding the domain

[true hatch]

There isn't one

[real silo]

power hungy

[warm gull]

silva inherited the domain regardless tbf

[cosmic zenith]

They're more like avatars/wielders of those forces

[true hatch]

Holding the domain has nothing to do with the domains existence

[warm gull]

So could vetra directly control exactly what all storms on the planet did

Or just has cool lightning attacks

[cosmic zenith]

A middle term

[true hatch]

Considering a significant number of the Domains souls are outright gone, since the Gods that got the souls after the dragons are also mostly dead

[real silo]

I don't have a sona because I don't like the idea of self inserts

[cosmic zenith]

I don't either

But I do want to have a sona for my personal stories

[real silo]

At most I just draw Me

[cosmic zenith]

Eventually™️

Storms is actually a goated domain, since you get wind, water and electricity in one package

[warm gull]

I am good at creating characters but awful at creating protagonists

[cosmic zenith]

Vetrasyl can control that in a local/regional scale

[warm gull]

what about the air and water elementals though

If they were to fight

[cosmic zenith]

They're manifestations of the Elements

[warm gull]

Would they fight for control over the elements

[cosmic zenith]

Elementals aren't as powerful, bu they're eternal as long as their Element exists

[warm gull]

Or could vetrasyl control them

[cosmic zenith]

Not really? After all, there's plenty of that Element to go around

Besides, I picture Vetrasyl as a more nomadic figure than Cloud Elemental

[warm gull]

But if they attacked each other they could take control of the substance being used fo attack

[true hatch]

Which is why Silva isn't completely dead, to my knowledge. Since she is... was? A nature elemental before ascension

[cosmic zenith]

I don't think they would have beef at all

[warm gull]

It would be like 2 magnetos fighting

[cosmic zenith]

Yes, Silva is the Nature Elemental and therefore can't be killed

[warm gull]

If all life was extinguished, would silva die?

[cosmic zenith]

Yes

[true hatch]

Well TBF if Providence had her way Silva might have died

[warm gull]

Would yharim be willing to end all life to kill silva?

[cosmic zenith]

If you entirely cross out the Element, the Elemental dies

Nope

[true hatch]

No

[cosmic zenith]

He wouldn't even kill Yharon for that purpose

[warm gull]

Okay yeah

[true hatch]

Considering when you kill Providence, who was planning to do just that, he goes "Let's fucking go omnicide averted"

[warm gull]

So he's satisfied with just keeping silva weakened or just can't ever be satisfied?

[wheat walrus]

So they saving me now?

[real silo]

I'm killing you

🔪

[warm gull]

like if he was able to kill all gods includng xeroc etc. But couldn't kill silva, would yharim be able to rest easy?

[wheat walrus]

Yeah sure

[true hatch]

People tend to forget Yharim doesn't want to kill everyone.

He wants to kill all Gods and their Followers, but if you're not in either of those categories he doesn't particularly care if you live or die

[warm gull]

what if silva is the gods that the lihzahrds worshipped

Jungle

Life

Etc.

[true hatch]

Didn't they worship the sun?

[warm gull]

God abandoned them

[warped helm]

i thought they worshiped golem

[rotund shore]

Yeah they praise the sun

[warm gull]

Silva is stuck at the bottom of the sea

[true hatch]

Golem was created to mimic their god after their god left them

[rotund shore]

They essentially just used it as an idol considering they’re not in a state where they can really see the sun

[warm gull]

Golem is an idol to the god that abandoned them

[rotund shore]

Saying the god abandoned them is funny since like, are we sure yharim didn’t just snap their neck

[cosmic zenith]

He's pretty satisfied

[true hatch]

That's also entirely possible

[cosmic zenith]

She's not getting out of there anytime soon

[warped helm]

makes sense

[cosmic zenith]

I think he'd try his best to make a permanent prison for Silva

[true hatch]

Throw her into space, Kars style

[rotund shore]

He’d make a huge ass Minecraft prison with chunk bans around it /silly

[sudden ruin]

bed trapped lel

[real silo]

Yharim traps silva inside the wall of flesh

silva emerges as silva prime

[sudden ruin]

like ultakill

[true hatch]

That's a downgrade from her current prison tbh

[sudden ruin]

ultakill reference

[real silo]

why not both

wall of flesh inside the abyss

[warm gull]

PRIME//THIRD

[rotund shore]

I’d want to have a nice chat with Silva over coffee

[sudden ruin]

next prime boss will be cool

[true hatch]

Also I just realised Minos Prime is the only "Prime" weapon in game that isn't a Warframe reference.

Rubico Prime, Corinth Prime, and Soma Prime are all from Warframe

[real silo]

I've been saying

Golem is based on xeroc

Because xeroc is god of the sun('s light)

[rotund shore]

She seems nice

[real silo]

Clearly post ascension xeroc is just golem but white

[sudden ruin]

erm actually its midas prime

because it shoots money

gold

midas touch

[warm gull]

Midas fortnite

[real silo]

"my" das? I'm sorry I don't own such a thing

[true hatch]

Still not a Warframe reference which makes it an outlier

[rotund shore]

I need to make a tier list of calamity characters based on if I’d hang out with them over coffee

[true hatch]

Calamitas number 1.

She needs it

[real silo]

I would definitely hang out with XM-05 "Thanatos"

[rotund shore]

[real silo]

Except I wouldn't drink coffee

Stupid bean juice

[warm gull]

Calamitas is evil and fucked up

[frozen zodiac]

non canon but would drunk princess be S or F tier

[true hatch]

Extremely loud incorrect buzzer

[wheat walrus]

huwwah!

https://tenor.com/view/jumping-minecraft-video-game-gameplay-gif-17789705

[rotund shore]

Drunk princess would put booze in the coffee and I’d say “what the FUCK” and then we exchange no words with each other

[sudden ruin]

calamitas is a little trauma ball

give pats and space

[real silo]

Drunk princess would be arrested for drunk driving

[frozen zodiac]

i would start crying when scal trauma dumps on me and not know how to respond

[wheat walrus]

https://tenor.com/view/crying-frustrated-tears-emotional-sad-gif-17839640

[sudden ruin]

https://tenor.com/view/rsaf-ked-gif-15373039

[real silo]

I would beg scal for a baby sepulcher

best dog ever

[wheat walrus]

flesh creature

[real silo]

sep doesn't even have flesh it's straight up bones

[true hatch]

Corpse snake

[wheat walrus]

rue

frgor

[real silo]

bonetipede

Imagine the utility of having that many hands

[rotund shore]

I wrote out which characters I’d hang out with over coffee in another server, but won’t clog chat with it

[sudden ruin]

i love bones

sepulcher so cool

[cosmic zenith]

Xeroc looks like Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson
Golem is made of rock, specifically Lihzahrd Bricks

The resemblance is uncanny

[wheat walrus]

thock

[warm gull]

Stip what is the canon reason for lihzahrd bricks being so hard to break

[wheat walrus]

bricky

[warm gull]

freakni

[wheat walrus]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-hammer-annoyed-giant-gif-24029759

[sudden ruin]

i lov ethat gif\

[real silo]

That's what I'm talking about

It all makes sense

[true hatch]

They just learnt how to make their bricks better than everyone elses bricks

[cosmic zenith]

The Lihzahrds cooked

(Unironically though, it's probably good material + expert preparation of it)

[real silo]

they infused clay regular clay bricks with primordial light

(drying them in the sun)

[cosmic zenith]

I shall channel Primordial Light to shine judgment upon the foul (using a magnifying glass to kill a mosquito)

[true hatch]

Actually

Solar Eclipse: Why is EoL still at full strength during an Eclipse

[spring helm]

the sun is still there

[pliant ruin]

i mean the sun is also still there at night

[wheat walrus]

¶Π∆‰₹→

[true hatch]

Yeah but the game treats a large number of other things as "Solar Eclipse = Night"

[pliant ruin]

tbh since solar eclipses are only like

[glad reef]

how strong is Full power EoL even

[pliant ruin]

well they exist but i imagine they're like

normal real life solar eclipses

that happen for like an instant

and dont actually

summon Hollywood Monsters

[spring helm]

weaker than the moon lord you fight

[glad reef]

damn

[pliant ruin]

since like

[true hatch]

I don't think so?

The moon lord you fight can't one shot you. EoL can, quite easily

[pliant ruin]

literally not a single eclipse monster EXCEPT eyezor is canon if we go by the established rule of no crossover/direct reference content is canon

[wheat walrus]

Small City Level at best based on light absorption calcs

[spring helm]

does EoL still one shot in calamity?

[pliant ruin]

She can't in calamity im p sure

don't think so

[true hatch]

Oh I didn't realise Daylight EoL got gutted

[rotund shore]

Tbh having this random fairly low power creature be able to do that much would be a bit odd lorewise

[true hatch]

No the reason she has so much power during the day is because canonically she like, simps for Xeroc and can wield Primordial Light. Which is absurdly strong

Night EoL is like, EoL without getting an external boost

[pliant ruin]

Tbh even xeroc won't be able to oneshot you like that i don't think

so it's still a fair point

but

yeah i think

given that she has a fraction of primordial light

it'd make sense for her to be really strong at full power, which, i mean, she sort of is

[spring helm]

juicing on primordial light

[pliant ruin]

but it is still just a part of it

but the fact even a portion of the power of PL is enough to

make her that strong

is pretty scary

xeroc is gonna xeroc blast us into oblivion

[true hatch]

Yet I'm not allowed to be juicing on Yharim Stims?

What is this hypocrisy

[pliant ruin]

you can however juice on fabsol's vodka

[warm gull]

yharim would win the olympics

He could probably just drop the ball in a basket ball hoop

[true hatch]

Off to install the mod that literally only adds Yharim Stims back

[true hatch]

How tall is he, anyway?

[pliant ruin]

they'd find out he was using illicit performance - increasing substances

and disqualify him

[glad reef]

wouldn't Yharim be too old to participate?

[warm gull]

He's 9 feet tall

[true hatch]

Really?

Damn bro is like, over 3ft taller than my character lol

[rotund shore]

Yharim is goddamn giant

Makes me so curious to see his sprite

[true hatch]

Insert Raiden punching Senator Armstrong in the stomach gif here:

[warm gull]

They've made a sprite for him to scale before

It's actually not that big

[rotund shore]

We punch him and we just get auric rejected

[true hatch]

To scale he's only like, a block and a half taller than the Terrarian's sprite

[spring helm]

probably 3 or 4 blocks tall

[warm gull]

Just like 2 blocks taller than the player

[true hatch]

4 1/2

[rotund shore]

I mean yeah but comparing that to average human (terrarian) person is still wild

[true hatch]

Terrarian in game is very close to 6ft tall

[rotund shore]

Although bro is shorter then draedon anyways

[spring helm]

would be an enourmous pain in the ass to fight if he's moving around and dodging

[rotund shore]

Draedon is like 10 feet or smth

[glad reef]

scal is like 5'4 or sum

so did she have like

really small chairs or sum

[true hatch]

That's not excessively short lol

[rotund shore]

While she was in the crusade she also wasn’t fully grown

[spring helm]

5'4 is not that short 😭

[sudden ruin]

woah me too

[rotund shore]

She sat at the kids table during thanksgiving

[glad reef]

compared to yharim it's tiny tho

[sudden ruin]

is my scal plushie gonna be as tall as me

[spring helm]

are you like 10 inches tall

[rotund shore]

I can’t wait for the scal plushie to come

I think it might be shipping next month?

I say that as somebody still in august

[sudden ruin]

woah its september

[true hatch]

Spember

[pliant ruin]

scal is shorter than me haha!! shortie

not by much but i mean it's something

[true hatch]

Honestly I tend to make most of my OCs shorter than myself

[rotund shore]

Scal is like one inch shorter then me but erm she’s an adult and I’m not

So ha

[pliant ruin]

i'm a adult and i'm slightly taller than her

: D

[sudden ruin]

im same heigh as scal

[rotund shore]

I should continue working on my fanfic maybe

[pliant ruin]

All of my ocs aren't really meant to be sonas or anything like that so their heights vary alot

[sudden ruin]

and i dont think thats gonna change lel

[pliant ruin]

90% of my ocs are just

characters for my story project

which i finally found a name for

Heartless Bullet : D

[rotund shore]

I made the prologue which is something

[true hatch]

I tend to just have one OC.

She gets thrown into everything

[rotund shore]

I don’t really have an oc but I guess the character for my calamity fanfic counts

[high lynx]

Scoog, best inabakumori song?

[warm gull]

I made an oc one time

It got robbed from me

[true hatch]

Robbed?

[high lynx]

How

[warm gull]

deep lore

[true hatch]

I say "OC" because like, it is. But more technically it's a fursona, so like... yeah

[rotund shore]

Although I still need to develop the whole personality, writing is hard

[spring helm]

i got an easy solution that i use a lot

everyone is my self insert in different clothes

[sudden ruin]

my oc is uhh whatever im feelin like at that moment

[spring helm]

what is this

is this a rock or a cloud

[high lynx]

Most of my OCs are women for some reason

[high lynx]

Eye

[spring helm]

an eye made of cloud?

[high lynx]

Sure

[spring helm]

i love that answer

[warm gull]

I wish new lore xeroc kept the red glare

It was just stylistically superior and more unique imo

[sudden ruin]

i agree a bit

but

[rotund shore]

I wish the heart of the elements was canon

Girls…

[high lynx]

What’s red glare?

[sudden ruin]

boys..

[visual kiln]

[spring helm]

azzy you've put a curse on me

[true hatch]

It isn't?

[spring helm]

it is

[sudden ruin]

learn c#

[spring helm]

but the elementals following you around are fragments of the real deal

[high lynx]

C# easy fr

[true hatch]

It's not a Dev/Patreon item

I don't see why it isn't canon

[warm gull]

hote is canon

[high lynx]

I learned that crap and im dumb as slime

[warm gull]

But idk if it does exactly what it does in gameplay

[sudden ruin]

you do anything with it?

[high lynx]

Not yet

Im still learning

[true hatch]

For the sand and Cloud elementals, maybe. I'm pretty sure Brimmy and Anahita are literally Brimmy and Anahita

[high lynx]

For school

[spring helm]

i gotta finish all the fanfics labeled "unfinished" too guys i can't fit learning C# in there too

[rotund shore]

Idk how the terrarian would get all the elementals to actually follow them

[high lynx]

I do want to make terraria mods though actually

[rotund shore]

Maybe with their w rizz (I hate myself)

[spring helm]

👊

and then

😄

[sudden ruin]

wow you like writing huh

[rotund shore]

Is it like Yokai watch logic

Is anybody here a Yokai watch fan

[high lynx]

Used to be

[spring helm]

these ideas in my head will kill me if i dont let them out

[high lynx]

I never watched the anime though

[sudden ruin]

how do i write better 😞

[high lynx]

Just read the manga

[warm gull]

The old xeroc design was still mostly glowing white but with a noticeable red tint. The new one is just white and yellow/gold which seems more generic imo and less striking/intense

[high lynx]

Write more

[rotund shore]

I need to learn to write, and by that I mean learn by doing

But also I don’t have motivation…

[spring helm]

write more

[visual kiln]

[true hatch]

Make Dragonfolly armour

[sudden ruin]

making a solo mod would be pretty cool and probably fun ngl

[high lynx]

Specifically i want to make every npc into a boss

[warm gull]

guide boss

never before seen idea

[high lynx]

That

That exists

[sudden ruin]

ive seen it

[high lynx]

Its called wall of flesh

[true hatch]

Angler:

Insert MGS 5 "You just killed a child" line here

[rotund shore]

Idk how to get any ngl

[sudden ruin]

ive seen a theme for it atleast

too real courier

[warm gull]

guide would never be a boss spits cereal

[high lynx]

But wizard would be a banger boss fight

[sudden ruin]

what about uh

angler

[high lynx]

And so would steampunker

[high lynx]

Whale suit

[sudden ruin]

what.

[high lynx]

Like that pokemon from one of the new games

[rotund shore]

Palafin?

[true hatch]

Dodonzo and Tatsugiri?

[high lynx]

The one where the whale swallows the little guy

Idk

[rotund shore]

Oh dondozo yeah

[true hatch]

Yeah that's Dodonzo and Tatsugiri

[spring helm]

google docs is actively fighting me right now because i switch between american and british english on the go

[high lynx]

But the small one is the angler

[true hatch]

Wait is it Dondozo not Dodonzo?

Fuck I've been saying it wrong the whole time

[high lynx]

No clue

Steampunker would get a big mech suit

With flamethrowers

[sudden ruin]

oooo thats kinda coool

likw

titanfall 2

hehe

[high lynx]

The zooligist would become a big wolf

[pliant ruin]

zoologis

[high lynx]

Princess would… summon hordes of knights?

[true hatch]

Not a big fox?

[high lynx]

Is she a fox

[sudden ruin]

yes

[high lynx]

Oh my bad

[sudden ruin]

i think

[rotund shore]

I like zoologist
Girls…

[sudden ruin]

i kinda want to learn tmodding now

[true hatch]

Yes, she's a Werefox

[high lynx]

Anyway traveling merchant would throw random crap at you and shoot you with his guns

[sudden ruin]

courier chill out

[visual kiln]

girls r cool

[sudden ruin]

what about boys

[high lynx]

I like boys too

[true hatch]

Boys are also cool

[visual kiln]

also cool

[rotund shore]

Fair enough

[sudden ruin]

like cute ones

[high lynx]

Yeah

[wheat walrus]

I'm boyent

[high lynx]

Like a boat?

[sudden ruin]

exactly

[wheat walrus]

https://tenor.com/view/nba-basketbol-basketball-smaç-gif-19202586

[high lynx]

What

[wheat walrus]

https://tenor.com/view/ronaldo-edit-funny-gif-11692063589334133722

[high lynx]

Have i been dunked on

[sudden ruin]

it would seem so

[high lynx]

Oh no

[spring helm]

hello lore chat i'm here again asking for words to describe a thing
what is this called they're not legs
is it a tail

[high lynx]

At least it wasnt neko arc

[wheat walrus]

what listening to RAHHHH does to a mf

[spring helm]

buranya

[rotund shore]

I guess tail is the right term

[high lynx]

Funny thing is ive never had anything to do with melty blood but i just love neko arc

[sudden ruin]

burenyuu

[true hatch]

They are legs.

They just don't end in feet

[spring helm]

yeah that's fair

what do they end in then

[high lynx]

And one time my friend auto corrected neko arc to bro park and so thats the cannon birth place now

Of me

Bro park new york

Not actually where i was born it doesn’t exist

[true hatch]

I'd say 'stump' but that implies there was something there before.

Personally I'd just use the description 'taper off'

[spring helm]

ah ha! taper off!

great choice i'll take it!

[warm gull]

plosion

[high lynx]

Is it weird that i can identify items from different bosses without knowing what the weapon is

[warm gull]

extreme plosion

extreme plosion

💥

[frozen zodiac]

i mean boss weapons usually stay very close to their respective bosses' color palette

[high lynx]

Exactly

The inly one i got wrong was an item that wasnt from the brimstone elemental, it was from calamitas clone

[true hatch]

This only becomes problematic with like, Deus and Aureus

Brimmy and Cal clone also have similar palettes, yeah. Since they're both Brimstone themed

[high lynx]

Best boss colour palette?

[frozen zodiac]

devourer of gods probably for me purple and blue just combine really well

[high lynx]

I do like the astral infection palatte

Greenish and purple-red blend goes harr

Hard

[glad reef]

pbg looks so visually appealing cause Green and Black work so well

[frozen zodiac]

im more into the music for the astral infection because RAHHH LEITMOTIFS GIVE ME STRENGTH

[true hatch]

Astral infection is pretty cool. My personal favourite is probably Plaguebringer Goliath's though

[high lynx]

Understandable

[spring helm]

What do you think chat, W description or what

[sudden ruin]

i like scoog pallet

[spring helm]

Which

[sudden ruin]

palette

water scoog

and other scoog

[true hatch]

Aquatic.

Desert's palette is just "Brown"

[spring helm]

Hey

There’s also dark yellow

[sudden ruin]

hey dont diss scoogs color

[celest kettle]

Tldr

[spring helm]

[high lynx]

I love abyss stuff too

Sulphiric and abyss

I love building my houses there

[sudden ruin]

sulphuric sea beloved

the palette

mwahmwah

beautiful color

[high lynx]

But it kills you with those stupid bubbles

And it has the best music

[deft vessel]

You just havent attuned with the bubbles

[high lynx]

You’re right, i need to meditate under a sulphuric waterfall for 100 years

I shall gain the love of the rancid waters

[frozen zodiac]

how does sulphuric water only hurt after it builds up

[spring helm]

Pain tolerance ran out

[deft vessel]

To not be annoying

[warm gull]

fromsoft reference

[frozen zodiac]

inaccurate there's not a swamp biome yet

[untold forge]

poison build up or smth i dunno

ultimately, gameplay mechanics win out over lore reasoning

[thick slate]

poison swamp when

[warm gull]

insults and mockery

malicious intent

[warm gull]

I harbor intense hatred for this user

[sinful adder]

Acid takes time to do anything significant, though it should screw up your eyes a lot quicker. That said, it would make more sense if it did really slow constant damage instead of having a separate meter

[untold oracle]

What exactly is the sulphurous sea?

Is it an inland sea (like the mediterranean), a massive lake (like caspian sea) or a weird ocean type of thing that doesn’t make sense

[warm gull]

Afaik it's just the sea close to the shoreline atop an aquatic trench

[wheat walrus]

This is literally monster hunter wtf

[warm gull]

Azafure existing below it fucked the ecosystem

Then draedon double fucked the ecosystem

[thick slate]

fukushima

[warm gull]

hiroshima

[thick slate]

nah

fukushima is just the sulphurous sea

we contained a little better tho

[wheat walrus]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fukushima_nuclear_accident

[thick slate]

only a little bit of radiation in the pacific ocean!!

[warm gull]

hiroshima is the xeroc disaster

[thick slate]

mb guys

[warm gull]

He made a lil slip up

[wheat walrus]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/984178408068096071/1279550012820291636/fatalis_hits_the_griddy_epically.gif

[warm gull]

me when I use a mechanism to convert rotational movement into lateral movement

[wheat walrus]

me when griddy griddy raahhhhhhhhhh balls balls balls legend never die lore

[warm gull]

@thick slate do you think that an a10 warthog could beat the devourer of gods by itself with only one load of ammo

[wheat walrus]

nao

[thick slate]

nah

devourer of gods could probably defeat the entire airforce tbh

he can teleport at will

[warm gull]

istg someone said before that an f35 only loses to xeroc

[wheat walrus]

the F-35 Lightning II?

[warm gull]

yes

[wheat walrus]

they legit got a vsbattles page of that

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/F-35_Lightning_II

[warm gull]

Lockheed martin multirole stealth fighter

[wheat walrus]

it only gets past building level if you consider it carrying a nuke

and even then

not enough to kill anything Storm Weaver level or above since it can at best carry 50 kiloton weapons

and storm creation is in the megatons (thousands of kilotons)

[real silo]

can't believe people are wanking real life fighters

[warm gull]

wait so in order to kill storm weaver you have to hit it with an attack more powerful than it's most powerful attack?

[wheat walrus]

storm creation is basically a passive thing

not its strongest attack

it literally summons a rainstorm passively

by just appearing

[warm gull]

right but why does attack potency=durability here

[wheat walrus]

I'll admit that storm weaver's feat has always been vague but

usually, if you can create something with enough energy

it equals to your durability

once again

I cannot truly confirm this for storm weaver as the feat is quite vague

but usually it's standard

besides that's not the only nuke-level feat

you also have the kinetic energy of destroyer moving

[warm gull]

Calamitas can kill a lot of things nearly instantly but without her shield she is as squishy as a regular person

[wheat walrus]

well that's a specific thing

related to magics

which we cannot confirm applies to weaver here

[warm gull]

And storm weaver creating a storm in it's environment... isn't magic??

Like

[wheat walrus]

yeah no I mean that

[real silo]

sciency magic

clearly

[wheat walrus]

we know Calamitas specifically cannot resist her own attacks being thrown back at her

because developers confirmed that several times

and it's not like I can make the same assumption for weaver, who hasn't gotten any such statement

it's also not like weaver has to pull up a bubble shield thing to protect itself

[warm gull]

So the auto assumption is that something can survive its own attacks unless proven otherwise?

[wheat walrus]

so yeah

[wheat walrus]

most cases

[warm gull]

what about like a person

[wheat walrus]

not always though

there's all kinds of specifics that can happen

[warm gull]

A human can snap someone's neck and cannot survive its own neck being snapped

[wheat walrus]

it also depends on if the attack is pure hax or not