#lore-discussion
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y'all i can't draw yharon's tail
tism
guys do you think humanity have never existed
you're getting tail-less yharon after i get un-warned
i mean neither could the person spriting yharon

instead were just simulation
optimism can be bad sometimes
all philosophies can be bad sometimes
made by some higher beings
not mine
We are realer than real stones
mine is right always
wats urs
my indomitable human spirit has been thoroughly dommed and conquered
mine is uhhh
thanks waffletime
fish r cool :)
just to like Fucks with us
fish r tasty iirc
sometimes
salmon
theyre cooler than they r tasty tho
raw fish my beloved
I had deer heart once
some said
Deer heart woww
they taste like chicken
Yeah well he's wrong because the first and second ones are incorrect. Just not because of some law of nature, but because of other living beings
Was it good
I can't rember
Bro said Buddah is wrong
HOLY SHIT THE BUDDAH WAS FUCKING SPITTING BARS
Reappears somewhere else
I think he may have been being deliberately vague
you remember that theory
kill
Nah sounds like a contradiction to me. A fire going out is the same as not appearing somewhere else.
it's the solution
thats not a contradiction tho
those are seperate questions
shrodinger's buddha
Adter death there is what was before life
Idk what that is thought ask someone else
after death there is among us
I agree with this, and the budha disagreed
guess I'm inventing immortality pills
he said there was some other option that is neither rebirth nor not rebirth
Do you ever think that youre not the same person as you are today after you wake up in the morning
I'd rather be eternally torn apart by heat death
No
or after you passed out
No
I think the concept of sameness is flawed and not able to be applied objectively to such a situation
if i turn your brain off and turn it back on again would you be the same person?
um SOMA
Prime
i mean you are conscious and aware of your being
what if you passed out and suddenly vanish
Thats crazy
consiousness isn't a good measure for such a thing
Uhm congnito pug sum or something

the total system of changing information that leads to your consciousness is a pretty good way to measure "self"
Self yeah
it's possible that consciousness is just a phenomemon generated by complex computation and that a new consciousness is generated every time you become conscious
new year new me just tke on a different meaning
this has the consequence that a perfect copy of a person is the same as that person and neither can truly be the "original" in a way that matters, and that is perfectly fine by me
the first part of this is probably true objectively, the second part assumes consiousness must be continous and that the concept of different-ness and new-ness that we have intuitively are correct in a way that is objective
but in this case, the consciousness isn't "you," it's just how you percieve yourself. "you" is the wrinkly thing inside the meat mech
I would consider it to be more accurate to say that you aren't even your brain, but the pattern of information encoded on your brain
Meat mechπ£οΈπ£οΈπ―
why are we talking about philosophy in the lore chat
guys move this to general or something
philosophy is basically lore
Idk bro im just yapping
put my brain in a jar
well if an electrical current is generated by a circuit, then power is cut off, and then power is restored to the circuit, is it the same current or a new one? the hardware is the same.
ok but yap in the right channel or we're gonna get in trouble
and connect it to a mech
π«‘π«‘
ok
the concept of sameness is being applied to a system where such a decision is arbitrary and has no objective meaning, in this circumstance
right
it's philosophical
Guys guys, tell me this, why is dreadon so crazy for knowledge
it is a different current for my definiton of current, but a different just as reasonable definition of current would consider it the same I think
he just is
What got bro so obsessed
yeah but its a brain
literally
you are
bro was literally built like that
he was built with an instinct to value knowledge and nothing else
built different
But why
Neurons firing in patterns
Why wqs he built like that
yeah
that whats makes you , youself
IDK WHY DONT YOU ASK THE DEAD GUY
I know
I'm Hatsune Miku
BE SORRY.
Oi oi oi
to me, a current is a physical pulse of electricity, but a person is not the physical implementation of their brain pattern but the pattern itself, regardless of what it is on
Oreni yagare kanke
No baby zombie
pathfinds towards you to deal contact damage
that doesnt really make sense
were you going somewhere with this
nah
I think I know what it was if you were
forget about it
ok
Fuggedah bout it
π«° π₯
Ey im walking ere!!
she pathfinded towards me and dealt contact damage
or I guess pathfound
Out in the streets they call it muurrrdaaa
that like, if you perfectly clone someone, which one is the original
stop being cringe
and the answer is that either they both are or there is no such thing as originality
in this context
uk person calling the us person cringe, tale as old as time

πΊπΈπ₯π₯π₯π₯
ok thats cool but that wasnt really what i was thinking
oi bruv you're so cring innit
Wow i feel so much more intellegent now!
can we talk about how yharim might have implied that he knew cals brimstone powers werent biological
Thanks noob!
you probably like listening to drill rap
I THINK YHARIM PAID BRIMMY TO DESTROY AZAFURE
Nuh uhh
REAL FABSOL TOLD ME IN MY DREAM
Naahh no wayyy
azafure was an inside job
I know not how it wields her brimstone magic. Perhaps some day one of us may find answers.```
look at how yharim phrases this
Yooo no that would be a crazy twist
its as if he knew a biological clone wouldnt have had the same results
yet, it still did
(well we know why it did but he doesnt)
It was probably dunked in brimstone magic or something
Yeah tell them
not with the same intensity though
brimstone vat
brimstone cloning vat
no
Yharim feels bad about it all so its fine
clone was perfect
its that her brimstone powers werent natural
so ofc a clone wouldnt have them
AZAFURE was an INSIDE JOB done by the GODSEEKER
why would he destroy his own city
draedon accidentally left cardi b playing on the cloning vat thas why she went insane
bc it's an inside job
but calclone does wield some amount of power
it's a shitpost
yea, after cal interacted with her
azafure was ai nside job by among us
did u read draetalk
no
He needed another excuse to invade the sea kingdom

I have not looked at cal shit for months
I think we need to dip calclone in the pot of pain
contact damage
i think we should dip you in the pot of pain

Ehat if you drink pot of pain the immidietly talk to the nurse to heal
you body takes a screeshot
I am going to put dirt under your skin
you cant because i have no skin im a jellyfish
not you

Yes it is i could feel it
it's not supposed to offend you
I feet in my bones enought to make my
tf you mean
I forgot the lyrics
what if Auric wasnt hard solid but super stretchy like rubber
Thst came out wrong
enough to make my systems blow
There we go thank yoou
I know this reference but I can't remember what its from
Luffy
If it is a refrence its unintentional it acc just came out rounge
Weong
Damn it
Yes the auric blade?? Did you forget
Hold on
cap there's no way you didn't see how that sounded before you sent it
The Auric great sword
I saw it the milllisecond i pressed send
No but i have the Auric Gun
it doesnt come with its own bullets sadly
Zamn it
they r being sold separately 
ye
Wow thats so cool, why are you so cool
old auric color iirc..

I bet your chill asf irl
hear me out, put little pieces of auric inside balls of salt. when you shoot somebody, the salt will melt and then the little auric ball will auric reject around inside their body until it turns them to mush from the inside
horrific
Or is it Henricue
auric salt flavoring
What if Yharim gets added and instead if a boss fight we have to defeat him in chess
Auric chess
Man what would auric taste
Maybe its like licking those thick batteries
9volt batteries
i'm - wait no cant say that
i'm the sun
i blow people up
What were you gonna say
not gonna say it i realized halfway through that it would have consequences
i thought u liked fish wtf
Why do you have pictures of a redhead holding fish
its ok catch and release

its actually a picture of a fish holding another fish
this fish woman isnt real
the only real fish woman is lgl
You aren't real
she is real
yes i am
she is real shes my wife
blow yourself up
My therapist told me you aren't real
π«° π₯
contact damage
wanna know wats that sound coming from the walls???
ITS ME!!
you don't make sounds all you do is make text appear in my discord
How are you thin enough to be in the walls
You're like
dw this is justified
A digital poltergeist
cats are liquid
blind people reactin to horror movies
I didn't know you're not gay
u r one of the gayest people i know
_ _

Since she's only 1 inch tall it makes it easy
1cm thick
ok im back
actually can't tell if this is ironic or not
ironic
hah no pfp
Strawberry
ill say anything is justified if it means my furthering my means (blowing people up(
cheese
that one ratatouille scene
stop blowing people up they do not consent to blowing up
instead of homura ill do nui this time because im feeling evil and fuckedu p

I am immune to explosions
this dummy is EVIL!!! BLOW EM UP
I can only be killed via implosions
π«° π₯ π₯ π₯
Which I do all the time
implode into blackhole
minecraft
the
My power is out for like 3 hours
SOB
u get out of here!!
dies of pain
π₯
explodes everyone here
this is the only place I can be
;-;
dies
correction: this is the only place u think u can be
:(
what about ermmm
general media
post a image there
what if I took the boom emoji out of your discord huh how bout that
das conk creet bay bee
But we can post media in lore discussion

so like what does vive mean
Live
why wouldn't it be relive then
revives u
it comes from latin i think
yeah
that's like gay
hiii lore discussion users
and gay is related to homlomoseuzla
ploo please revive me
the greeks were the gay ones
Google lesbos
not true
cheese got revived
you cant say that it activates my breain
btrabg n
kbraiun
girls π
ikgjomkaΓ§wglm
girls
she did?
so real
I'm not dead yet
ya i did that
WHAT
EXPLODES YOU
dodges
parries
too slow on the parry
Like ultra
π«° π₯
i will give u 5000 cookies
hey eggg do u wanna fight azzy
that would make me fat
ill give u 1 cookie
noob fighting anyone is like shadow of the colossus
no i like everyone here
u hate me
they tried exploding you
everyone ahtes me
i dont
wait what i do?????????????????
they're just playing
wtf
i have blast resistance
nuh uh
do you think Xeroc knows how to swim in his pre ascension
yes
eggg am i cool u think
@pliant ruin revives u
explodes noob and cheese
I think xeroc walks along the bottom like most terrarians
Hi chat how goes the lore ing
affectionate explosions

Not good
dies
:3c
cooks you into cookie via nuclear explosion
why am I still dead
eggggggggggggggggggggggg
Somebody undie me
humpty dumpty
I feel like at this point lore discussion has its own lore
was an egg
im watching people bicker
this chat is so zesty rn
for his safety i presume
yes
"I'm draedone with you calamiclowns" -me 2023
no that's what draedon said when he saw my village
theyll say "yes" but rubber actuallg is an extremely durable material and would be very likely to crack an egg if dropped on
okay nerd
nere
nere
Ive already been exploded to blood and sand
i lovf ,.ana Fbsnjk TG fish F8HU0BOPAJSUWBNLGN girls HUWKAJBGJNA fis, GUJFrisl gay Gay MKG,AMGWG KLNBJVANMAGN Insect
meow

girls are a scam invented by the mermaid mafia
better than gravel/dirt from a 8ft long drop
hi courier hru
Good I guess
who said they got rid of the wall
what
thts good to hear i am doing ok too
also tis midnight
i have to wake up before 2 tommorow
godamnit
i have to register myself on school
sob
its 4 for me lo
courier from fallout new vegas????/?/??
8:39 for me
who is courier
and since I'm the main character, I'm correct
yo mama
argue all you want but i have insane plot armor
Coingus
wtf that's literally me
remember that one lyric from the aot opening that goes
"Look down from above I feel awful"
oh aot world war 1 aesthetics
fair
Nobody has unexploded me
im sorry courier
I feel elft our
wtf
shit i should have asked for permission
hi
unexplode daichin pls π
ye
I don't care who unexplodes me
unexplodes daichin
How long has this explosion stuff been goin on for
too much explosion
I've been unexploded
what is this
i have no clue i just got here
Kira yoshikage meeting?
chat is a bit sily right now
i grinded a long time for these
also haha jojo refernece
πͺ
what's terraria
?
Itβs like angry birds
ploo
terraria is a game with birds on it
more like
angry birds is also a game with birds on it
what's angry birds

Itβs like bad piggies but worse
π‘π¦
What's piggies
that's one angry bird
Oinkers
They turn into hotdogs when they turn 7
what's dogs
plural of the piggy critter from calamity
cuisine from Detroit
violence complete
ploo what stats do your robes have
10
hahaihaihagnpjogwag
i got 24 notifications in less than a minute
let me make that 25
Oops
that's not π§
Its over for you
cheek clapperis is crazy
invert
:3
Wait till Cheek Clappersβ cheek clapper appears
What does lore chat think of
Scrap mech calclone idea
We for the longest time assumed that her mech is a cloning chamber/life support system built by draedon
But now we learned that calclone was released from him by calamitas
What if mech was built by clone herself
With knowledge she got from draedon
And it can utilize her given brimstone powers at least somewhat
And calclone herself is, well, also a person
She didn't just went mad because of brimstone magic from cal
She definitely has big mental health problems due to being locked in the lab for the biggest part of her life, and also brimstone magic destroys her too
But I don't think she's just a mindless monster that has nothing humane
I imagine that she can work with technology just fine, and she built herself a mech, and she also built her brothers
I imagine her brothers are more robotic than like golems
And clone herself is a bit delusional, so she thinks they're real people and she cares about them as if they're her actual siblings
Maybe she's somewhat like a 3rd sibling to calamitas
Idk the idea of calclone is pretty unexplained still to me
But cal didn't want to stay with her, because she wanted her to be independent and live her own life
I'll wait what they make of her
Since she was locked away for a pretty long time
If a long time is a span of 2 or 7 years then maybe
Even 1 month is too long
She's a person
She shouldn't be locked away in some lab
Issolation does make people crazy now that i think about it
Like Non-Eye CCal is so scunkly poo
But I do really love the eye sprites for the Cal bosses
That's a scrapped concept
fuck
That was from iban right?
Its a bad design
A lot of iban sprites
Because you like iban designs
Why is every image I pull up scrapped
Hell yeah I do
And he left
Iban's clone is cool but my idea is very very different

So the Boo-Womp brothers are scrapped too?
Ye
Well thats a shame
they in infernum tho
Iban concepts Β―_(γ)_/Β―
They're interesting but
IMO, too similar to normal brothers
I think they can be more interesting
How much interesting can you make the clone of the current final boss?
Frailer
That's not what I meant
They can be their own thing
Uuuh
The final boss used to be a reskin of a metal version of like the third boss you fight
That is similar to cal bros, but ultimately has a different direction for the design
The comtructs for the Cata brothers are kinda fart
I mean the eye constructs
The current constructs are peak
They would be cool by not being better than cal bros, but by deviating more and being unique and different from this and current iterations
Iβm fine with that
A robotic magical construct
Let me search for a reference
Discord made a third brother no way
Catastrophism
cataclophe
Holyshit Diastrophism
no it's just Disaster
Bro trained one hand every time he felt lonely
Which one is skinnier
stop you freak
Itβs a mix of Calamity and Class
Is this sarcasm?
Cause she has class
Half
Casm?
Catastrophos and Cataclystus π§
In my main language that means meat bits
Yes
Meat bit who?

Who did meat bite???
meat bit ch....

when somebody asks me what animals are made of
Is when theres a bit, and then you ch someone
Ok i have achieved brain damage
Anyways
bitch burger gif
Peak lore discussion
why does the Hive Mind have demonite armor?
shadow
Eww I hate berghley
nerdly
No cause he wouldβve said shadow
He said demonite
There is no shadow ore
shadow armor specifically is the armor players can make
i guess itβs like to do with the way players make it
shadow armor looks darker than demonite bars for some reason
hive mindβs armor is the same color as demonite
so I assume the armor is just demonite
why does hive mind have that
how did it get actual armor instead of just a coating of demonite
yharim called it the equivalent of the twitches of a crushed bug, and it seems very odd to lie about the mental capacity of hive mind
Yae yae yae yae yae yae yae
-the hive mind
the armor looks like it was forged, doesnβt look like raw unsmelted demonite
Maybe someone dropped armor made for the hive mind, since it was a remnant of a god, and they wanted to give their god a last gift even when in rotting pieces
I canβt wait for spider looking perforator hive
Oh is that confirmed?
I thought it was a discarded design
they changed the relic to its current design
the relic used to be the spider design
(im secretly John calamity mod, creator of undertale calamity mod)
im new here and i got a quick question
(and iβm john target, the green projectile that the player is supposed to touch during sansβs festival game in TS!UNDERSWAPβs second area)
(on neutral and compassion routes)
It's scrapped
Again all iban concepts were scrapped
so i read calamity lore but im not sure if its cannon or not
Because he left the team
i got into an arguement n i need to know if im right
He left the team like 1,5 years ago cmon
The lore document? Itβs a fan made collection of most of the lore we know thatβs publicly available. Not perfect, but pretty reliable. A lot of lore is up to interpretation so there isnβt always a βrightβ way to know the lore
Just assume that anything older than 1,5 years is scrapped
Plans
I mean
Not content that's already in the mod
When are they adding Alpha and Omega? 
And also not everything, but vast majority
Master mo-π₯
FOR THE DELTA!!!!
mo-? The raccoon salesman in Undertale Yellow, long awaited fan made prequel to the hit indie 2015 game Undertale?
Unfathomable doom shall be upon ya
:<
What part of it
Also yeah like literaly every redesign that we've been shown minus like
signus, slime god, yharon, and now ravager is scrapped lol
and armored digger and clam. those are also not scrapped. but like. do those count.
minibosses
they're minibosses
they count
the biggest losses are actually inanis concepts
wtf blue
never gonna see inanis polter, xeroc, folly and pbg be public
i wish they were public they go so hard
can new patreon members still see those old stuff
Iβm not a member so I canβt answer that
"Can a doctor please help me my friend is choking!!"
"Sorry I'm not a doctor so I can't help you"
lorers
i'm writing something about magic in calamity
what do we know about it
no speculation please
its like a three part series. It talks about Goozma and how he created the dark and light gods
Ah.
Yeah that's not canon
It sounds like either old lore, fandom lore or a weird mishmash of both
Goozma isn't a character in the mod's canon lore nor is there a concept of light or dark gods
Isnβt that the slop from the Fandom wiki???
It was like a goofy ass image where goozma created Noxus and Noxus killed him
where can I read the new lore?
cuz i thought this was cannon
There's a doc in pins

thats in the help advice general?
This
Damn why did you ping Rebecca
thx
the evil scrolls
it was never patreon
Who tf is Steve???
I refuse to believe itβs Jason Mamoa Steve
steve(n) lin
ts made hella sense when i read it
I don't know who that is
The only context I have for his existence is the developer in roy
*he
i ate steven lin
yeah well
hes dead
u cannot silence me
she said she was gonna go sleep like 3 times now
go EEP
if you don't i'll uhmmmmm explode
goodnighty
why is steven lin has is died?
he fell in a pit
guys please, what's confirmed about magic in calamity
oh y'all are about to sleep
nevermind good night
arent you registering for classes in like 2 hours
Mf does not know about timezones
(I'm only one hour behind azathoth)
i'd slap you daichin but i don't even reach up to your chest
anyways magic is made from mana obviously, mana seems to be physical to an extent because stars are solid concentrations of it
i will register for classes today yeah but not in 2 hours
a good bit later
oh ok
but still too early for me to sleep without worrying about waking up too late so
i'm not gonna sleep
Shit I gotta register for my college classes too
good luck soldier
I don't want to do that
i'm gonna try getting my diploma
being a stinky neet girl isnt fun
i get it
i dropped out of school lol
i'm only going back to it now
yeah i get it it sucks
what kind of magic system does calamity have, is it a hard system or soft sytem
i suppose not
We know it comes from mana, which seems to be a physical substance which can concentrate into solid forms (I.eg stars)
If it's hard, then the caldevs have kept it secret
and also it seems like there exists organisms that live off mana like astrum deus
as far as i am aware the three magics we are told about so far are ice (permafrost), brimstone (calamitas), and necromancy (the guys who made ravager)
obviously there are more
There are elementals
okay
And all the random magic stuff you can do

