lore-discussion

[mighty zenith]

cause the title "jungle dragon" kinda sucks

[buoyant inlet]

Because he had like no connection to jungle

[dense ore]

anyways it's defo king slime in a costume

[mighty zenith]

and that

[buoyant inlet]

It was just a place he was born in

His rebirth theming was a lot more important and relevant

[mighty zenith]

there was nothing connecting him to the jungle besides the name, having him be yet another jungle boss was redundant (there were already like 5 of them)

[buoyant inlet]

Same with yharim being a jungle tyrant

It was not relevant at all

[mighty zenith]

i think the worst part is that it didn't convey their personality or motivation at all

its kinda sad when the most important thing about you is where you were born

like yharim just being "that asshole from the jungle"

[buoyant inlet]

Well, if can be important depending on character

Like if it's a character obsessed with their origins and birthplace

[mighty zenith]

at least that connects them to their origins, so it's still part of their motivation

for yharim, the jungle was

completely irrelevant

[buoyant inlet]

And whose motivation and, well, personality are tied to it

It was not the case for yharim tho

[dense ore]

Yharon, jungle asshole

[buoyant inlet]

Yharon sure is an asshole

[gleaming spear]

but his 2nd phase music🙂

[mighty zenith]

mid.....................

phase 1 better

[gleaming spear]

👹

[crimson finch]

Yharon should’ve been replaced with Slime God in a Yharon old design costume

Like those cutouts with the face removed

Honestly replace every boss besides the neat ones like Draedon, SCal and CalC, Deus, Aureus, Weaver & Plantera with a Slime Paladin

Calamity if it was Peak:

[mighty zenith]

fuck ypy

[buoyant inlet]

I mean

Ironically enough

It's more canon than ever

The name of the song is not, sure

But the lyrics of the song are

They weren't canon in the old lore

[late moth]

they werent?

im pretty sure they were

[cloud ibex]

they were not

yharon and yharim could respawn if one of them was still alive

[mighty zenith]

i love having no consequences of death because yes

[crimson finch]

Wait Yharon could revive Yharim? ????

[random mulch]

lil sketch of the auric bastard

[mighty zenith]

so cool

so cool

so cool

so cool

so cool

[hoary berry]

he looks friendly almost

this is very good for yharim propaganda

[random mulch]

you ok?

[mighty zenith]

so cool

so cool

[random mulch]

waiter, my garbo is defective

[hoary berry]

you can order a deus lover instead

they tend to be a little more mentally resilient

thus last longer and are more durable overall

[mighty zenith]

(i was referencing something

[random mulch]

da guuuuuy

[hoary berry]

looks like he's in the middle of a soliloquy or something

[random mulch]

i need more yharim designs

idk why but i love seeing people's takes on him

[pliant ruin]

ur like

yhar #1 fan

but in a good way

[pliant ruin]

not the dumb yharim did nothing wrong way

[stark basalt]

Lore accurate Braelor riding an ant into battle against Yharim

[hoary berry]

braelor looks so out of it

[stark basalt]

He misses his boyfriend

The ant is just happy to be included

[hoary berry]

it's fine they're about to nearly kill a genocidal maniac as a date 😄

[stark basalt]

Anyone have that pic of Yharim?

Like the new one

[hoary berry]

this one?

[spring helm]

Wide

[random mulch]

yharim is a fucking asshole

and i love him

[spring helm]

He got a hair tie

Stupid idiot doesn’t go to a barber

[random mulch]

he's bald

it's just a plume

[hoary berry]

i like this new design more each time i see it

[spring helm]

Two pairs of horns

Yharim has 4 handlebars

[late moth]

i mean that just doesnt make any sense

[random mulch]

i prefer the second poly design but this one is definitely also nice

[hoary berry]

yharim bike

[spring helm]

Auric vroom

[late moth]

the lyrics not being canon in the first place

[hoary berry]

what's that?

[random mulch]

mech yharim

[cloud ibex]

i mean at the very start when the theme was initially made they might've been

i don't really know

[hoary berry]

awesome

[cloud ibex]

but right before the most recent lore rewrite they were not canon

[random mulch]

each yharim design has its own merits

[spring helm]

It’s so detailed

[random mulch]

i just like how fucking bulky he is

[spring helm]

It kinda look’s like doomguy’s praetor suit

[random mulch]

it's more top heavy rather than being a strongman bodytype

it's a bit too mechanical though

[random mulch]

looks more like a robot than a guy

[stark basalt]

Oh fuck it’s about to go down

[spring helm]

Where Statis

[stark basalt]

He left Braelor

This is post break up

[shut tide]

uhhh statis is wandering around

doing uhhh

something

[hoary berry]

yharim is playing a dangerous game fighting a man after his ninja boyfriend left him

[random mulch]

what actually makes a design a yharim design

[stark basalt]

He’s going in for the kill

[hoary berry]

honestly i look for the vibe of a war general (other than obvious stuff like auric armour)

i want to feel intimidated by the design

as if i am genuinely facing down the perpetrator of several genocides in a duel to the death

[random mulch]

braelor doesnt stick the landing

[hoary berry]

braelor when he remembers yharim is a fucking giant:

[random mulch]

it took the combined effort of braelor and statis to fight yharim before he got exo tech

[stark basalt]

Oh fuck it’s the terrarian coming in for the assist

[hoary berry]

me fighting yharim with a paper aeroplane and a wooden boomerang:

[hoary berry]

he touched my head to auric reject me

little does he know it's empty

can't auric reject inanimate air

[random mulch]

terrarian exploded due to cheese touch 2

[stark basalt]

I can’t keep up with you

😭😭

[hoary berry]

is that my aerated brain being released into the world

[random mulch]

yharim is an absolute titan and should feel like it

[hoary berry]

try beating this artwork

took me a whole 27 seconds in paint

[random mulch]

iirc his most recent canon height is 8' 1" or 2 and a half meters

[hoary berry]

he is literally a skyscraper compared to me then

[cloud ibex]

he's a skyscraper compared to most people

[random mulch]

i'm at least 1.84 meters and i once wanted to see how tall i would be compared to yharim and uhhh...

he's pretty fucking tall

[solar wharf]

daddy yharim...

[random mulch]

i think i might have thought of a reason why he doesnt look as tall as he is

people usually dont get proportionally wider as they get taller

[hoary berry]

even more reason to view yharim as a complete monster

[random mulch]

he defies the way humans grow

he's just that powerful

[hoary berry]

looking at this now

i do think i can accept the more strapped-together feel to it knowing that it was modified to have exotech

it isn't as continuous as i would normally imagine auric armour to be

but it does create a more technological feel to it which the old armour design couldn't really convey

[random mulch]

honestly i kinda feel like it takes away a bit of the techonological feel

[hoary berry]

okay the actual straps i don't like very much

[random mulch]

the older designs looked more like proper interconnected suits with mechanical joints n' stuff

but it's not like armor you have to put on piece by piece is unrealistic

[hoary berry]

i'm trying to find a specific image rn

[random mulch]

honestly i think one specific thing that i feel doesnt look as great is the feet

he has auric sandals

[hoary berry]

i view this design

and the current one as opposite sides of a spectrum, personally

[random mulch]

something like a sabaton from actual armor couldve worked instead

[hoary berry]

yeah the current design's feet do kind of look like loafers

[random mulch]

because a foot you cant flex seems uncomfortable

[hoary berry]

at least from the side

[random mulch]

the entire sole is a single piece of metal

he cant bend his foot

[hoary berry]

it has a hinge or something doesn't it?

[random mulch]

idk if that's a hinge or just a random dot

[hoary berry]

i feel like it would be there for flexibility with his foot

but also that doesn't mean much

he'd still has very stiff feet with these on i feel

[hoary berry]

whereas with these you have a lot more movement available

[random mulch]

he took over the continent he deserves to be a lil comfy

[hoary berry]

well

frankly i think he should rot in hell

[random mulch]

he's earned a lil comfy

[hoary berry]

but yeah i don't see why he would make himself suffer like this

it isn't as if lacking freedom of movement in your feet is an advantage in a battle

[random mulch]

also he has severe weakspots

[pliant ruin]

i am

strawberry cheese

[hoary berry]

you are indeed strawberry cheese

[random mulch]

the back of his knees are nearly unprotected

the popliteal arteries lie there

[lean crag]

Zamn who made that

[hoary berry]

and beneath the pauldrons seems to lack auric plating too

asturisk

[hoary berry]

.

[lean crag]

Will check them out

[pliant ruin]

i wish strawberries and cheese were real

[hoary berry]

i had some yummy red grapes earlier

[pliant ruin]

i think

current yhar design is rly nice for the most part but a issue i've ahd with both it and like every yhar design is that it often feels like yharim is a robot

[random mulch]

i'll give my 2 cents

lilac's yharim is a step in the right direction for some parts

but it's lacking in other places

it feels a bit too... "soft"

and a bit too much like just another soldier

[stark basalt]

But when I say mommy Silva

[random mulch]

but the other designs had their own flaws

[hoary berry]

i have a bit of a soft spot for this one but it does feel more like the design of a royal guard than a final boss imo

also slightly more abstract than a typical design

[random mulch]

and maybe another pass can keep what makes lilac's yharim work while reworking what doesnt work

elements like the crackling electricity and the horns are things i like

[stark basalt]

I miss Yharim’s old face

I like the new body

But his face was badass

[random mulch]

i think a top heavy design would fit yharim well with how tall he is

[hoary berry]

yharim's old face reminds me of some powerful knight from an ancient, technologically advanced but medieval-looking civilisation

[random mulch]

honestly that's one thing i really wish yharim had

looking more like a knight

[solar wharf]

double standards...

[hoary berry]

the commanding aura of a war general but the ferocity of a warrior who will fight even harder than his soldiers

is what i like in terms of the vibe i get from a yharim design

[random mulch]

very good way of putting it

i want a yharim design that demands respect with a single glance

[hoary berry]

but doesn't seem overly royal to the point of seeming detached from conflict

[stark basalt]

I might buy a cheap drawing tablet specifically for making crappy calamity art

(I have no experience drawing)

[random mulch]

i just use a mouse

works fine

[stark basalt]

(I stopped when I was 7)

I don’t have the coordination for any of that lol

[hoary berry]

i can occasionally crank out a semi-decent drawing

[random mulch]

honestly i think this might be the most imposing version of yharim

[hoary berry]

but it's like a yearly occurence at best

[random mulch]

but he still has design flaws

too mechanical

but if he looked at me i would explode out of fear

[hoary berry]

also the banner thing dangling from his hip is too long imo

seems wholly impractical to me

[random mulch]

one day he's gonna trip on it

[mighty zenith]

the posing 100% does it

i dont like the dots on his face

[random mulch]

yeah

[crimson finch]

Yharim’s auric colors look kinda dumb

[random mulch]

then there's also this lanky guy

[crimson finch]

Ronald McDonald lookin ass

[mighty zenith]

tiny head-ass mf

[random mulch]

thighs the size of his torso

[mighty zenith]

bird talons havin mf

chicken nugget shaped hand mf

[crimson finch]

Angry Birds Chuck mf

[random mulch]

only 3 fingers

[mighty zenith]

why does he have mines on his shoulder pads

[crimson finch]

Yharon is just his Fursona

[random mulch]

those were stimulants

[crimson finch]

Great he’s using drugs

[random mulch]

he has 10 of them injecting into him at all times

[mighty zenith]

permamently injected with steroids

[random mulch]

oh wait no sorry

15

[crimson finch]

Meanwhile the Terrarian is all natty

[random mulch]

and then there's the goat

[stark basalt]

I fucking hate this

[stark basalt]

I hate it so much

[hoary berry]

he looks like a dwarf

he's just like me

[random mulch]

LMAO

[crimson finch]

PFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

[stark basalt]

Lorde

[hoary berry]

hitmonlee lookin ass

[pliant ruin]

this certainly is

A Design ™️

[random mulch]

first ever yharim

[crimson finch]

TicTac on roids

[hoary berry]

this better be somewhere on fandom

[crimson finch]

Pointy ass elf shoes

[random mulch]

he has fucking auric elf shoes

[hoary berry]

it encapsulates that site's soul perfectly

[mighty zenith]

there should be a page that is literally just called "The Lord" instead of "THE LORDE" with this image as its sprite

[stark basalt]

Auric slippers

[crimson finch]

La Auric Chanclas

If Yharim used the belt I would actually fear him

[random mulch]

exagurated yharims are the best

[stark basalt]

Yharim actually just uses a normal leather belt

[pliant ruin]

Okay i might love this one

This might be my fav yet

[hoary berry]

bro has shoulders the size of jupiter

[mighty zenith]

dude looks like juggernaut

[stark basalt]

I want them to give Yharim yhoobies

[random mulch]

he could pick you up with 2 fingers

[mighty zenith]

why are the shoulder pads 3x the size of his head

[pliant ruin]

He's really intimidating and somehow dosen't really look as much like a robot to me like the others

[hoary berry]

still on steroids though

[pliant ruin]

I think the shoulder pads somehow make him look less like a robot and more like someone wearing armor

i love that one

fav yet

[mighty zenith]

actually fair

[cloud ibex]

warhammer lookin ass pauldron size

[stark basalt]

Rounded Yharim feels more natural

[crimson finch]

Yharim under the armor:

[mighty zenith]

my shovel knight brainrot reminds me of this

[crimson finch]

Pffffff

[pliant ruin]

i started playing shovel knight again yesterday

[hoary berry]

yharim is just ronnie pickering under the armour, always ready for a fight

[pliant ruin]

did u know i never played king of cards even though ive had shovel knight for like 6 years

[mighty zenith]

man

king of cards is my favorite one

[pliant ruin]

i got stuck in one of the card puzzles right as my shovel knight hyperfixation was ending

so i stopped playing it for a bit

and before i noticed it the hyperfixation ended so i never went back to it

[crimson finch]

Yharim is using the steroids from one piece so after the fight he’s gonna be a really thin raisin

[tall delta]

yharim

[pliant ruin]

actually i should play some more shovel knight now

[hoary berry]

yermes

[pliant ruin]

i wanted to try finally completing the game

[stark basalt]

Draedon x Yharim power couple

Fan art

[hoary berry]

not that

[tall delta]

Since you people are talking about yharim design have you people seen Vincent yharim

[hoary berry]

the trauma is too much

[pliant ruin]

drarhim

yhareon

[crimson finch]

Draedon X Brave Warrior Goldfish what ever it’s called

[pliant ruin]

yhareon sounds like a yharim themed eevee

[stark basalt]

Yharon x desert scourge

[crimson finch]

Is real

[tall delta]

hold up let me grab It...

[pliant ruin]

dragon type eeveelution

yhareon

[crimson finch]

It would probably be Wyreon it Drakeon

[stark basalt]

Purple guy?

[crimson finch]

The fanamde purple guy???

[hoary berry]

its ability lets it pice throughs dnimite

[stark basalt]

Vincent

[crimson finch]

🤢

[random mulch]

vincent yharim is this guy right

[tall delta]

y

[hoary berry]

he can fly now?

[stark basalt]

Sigma

It’s fucking sigma

[crimson finch]

Gamma male

[spring helm]

according to stip it was mostly just braelor against yharim and statis just kinda there
#lore-discussion message

[tall delta]

heres the full image

[crimson finch]

Oh wait sigma from mega man

[pliant ruin]

SHITTY ASS HAIR

WORST HAIRCUT EVER

[mighty zenith]

the game is super fun

[spring helm]

cyberpunk hair

[stark basalt]

Popcorn I don’t like that I’ve been around for long enough to be seen in old messages

[mighty zenith]

just dont go for all feats

you will want to die

[tall delta]

shut up you just dont understand it

[stark basalt]

It’s only been a few months

[spring helm]

it's not that old bro

[crimson finch]

I was never book smart im money smart

[stark basalt]

It feels like forever ago. But yeah. It’s like a month old or some shit lol

[random mulch]

second time posting this in response

[mighty zenith]

HAHAHAHA

[tall delta]

true...,.,

[crimson finch]

BICYCLE SEAT FACE

[mighty zenith]

he kinda looks like mistral tbh

[hoary berry]

i saw that aido

we all did

[stark basalt]

Like from mgrr?

[mighty zenith]

yea

idk why

[stark basalt]

No I see it

[crimson finch]

Ohhh MGR yeah I see it

[stark basalt]

I finally found what

IIIIIII

[crimson finch]

VE BEEN LOOKING FIRR

FOR

DUCJ K

FUCJ

[stark basalt]

A PLACE WHERE I CAN BEEEERE

WITHOUUUUUT

remorse

[random mulch]

i love the unmasked yharim designs that make him look like he's at death's door

[crimson finch]

Good

[stark basalt]

I like that one guys Yharim on Reddit

The unmasked one

[crimson finch]

Beef jerky face

Raisin

Prune

That’s good unmasked Yharim

[random mulch]

twinkrim has been a disaster to the yharim

[gleaming hollow]

hmm

[stark basalt]

Yharim could totally be a twink under all that armor

[crimson finch]

I do not like Looksmaxxing Mogrim

[random mulch]

he's 130 years old

[stark basalt]

He’s in his physical prime

[cloud ibex]

i have always loved the idea of "how is this mf still alive" yharim

[random mulch]

exactly

[cloud ibex]

"basically a corpse at this point" yharim

[crimson finch]

He should be swole but not handsome squudward

[mighty zenith]

doom revenant yharim is peak

[stark basalt]

“Stimulants keeping him alive” Yharim

[mighty zenith]

genuinely he looks so fucking threatening

[random mulch]

his armor being mobile life support

[mighty zenith]

somehow looking more like a corpse makes him more threatening

[crimson finch]

Yharim is alive due to remnant fnaf Freddy

[cloud ibex]

this has always been the way i imagine him looking under the mask

[stark basalt]

Yharim asf

[crimson finch]

[cloud ibex]

so withered it's a wonder even draedon is able to keep him alive

[crimson finch]

Thank you audio, very cool

[random mulch]

yharim should be someone who you would rather see with the mask on

[crimson finch]

Yeah

Like Vader

Springed Trap

[stark basalt]

Yhar yhar yhar yhar yhar

[crimson finch]

Yhar Yhar Yhar Yhar Yhar

Yhar Yhar Yhar Yhar

Yhar Yhar Yhar Yhar

[mighty zenith]

"THE PIZZA BRAE-LOR, EAT IT"

[stark basalt]

I love lore chat

So much

[crimson finch]

Me too

[random mulch]

i'm still kinda experimenting with yharim masks but i'm definitely keeping the horns

[spring helm]

yharon always comes back

[crimson finch]

When Yharim takes off his mask I expect the FlapJack scream or the SpongeBob horror sound when they zoom into someone’s face and it’s hyper realistic and ugly

[pliant ruin]

lore chat is like a highly disfunctional family

[mighty zenith]

spongebob foghorn

[spring helm]

except it's not zoomed in and he's just like that

[hoary berry]

i was just thinking something like that earlier

[stark basalt]

Yeah but we’re cool

[mighty zenith]

we need a drawing of all the insane people here as a family photo

[stark basalt]

This is just our group chat at this point

[crimson finch]

More functional than mine LMAO

[hoary berry]

you've just said you would sit on yharim's face do you have the right to say that??

[stark basalt]

I said no such thing

[crimson finch]

Exactly

[hoary berry]

you may have deleted the message

[stark basalt]

Cap

[hoary berry]

but my eyes cannot be fooled so easily

[stark basalt]

Nuh uh

[crimson finch]

TF????

[stark basalt]

That was braedo

Not Aido

[wheat walrus]

greenfelinusg

[crimson finch]

Okay this place crashed and burned after that comment was made

[stark basalt]

Anyways

Uh

What’s up with that airline food?

[spring helm]

it's up in the sky

[crimson finch]

I prefer submarines

[stark basalt]

Wait is that the punchline

[crimson finch]

I love me a good sandwich

[random mulch]

yharim 2 has been released

[stark basalt]

I’ve never heard the rest of that joke before

[crimson finch]

[spring helm]

oh my goodness gracious

[crimson finch]

Yharwide

[spring helm]

he's built like a baki character

[crimson finch]

Mr. World Wide

Literally

[mighty zenith]

who ate a chonk out of him

[cloud ibex]

dudes about to stop an earthquake by punching the ground

[crimson finch]

His arm did

[spring helm]

DoG

[hoary berry]

Where did his thigh part go

[spring helm]

old lore moment

[crimson finch]

in his arm

[cloud ibex]

the one man that can fight yujiro hanma to a standstill

[spring helm]

that's just baki

[crimson finch]

Yoo I found an ant

[cloud ibex]

not anymore

[crimson finch]

Free food

[cloud ibex]

vaporized

[random mulch]

YHARIM 3

[cloud ibex]

no more braelor ant jokes

[hoary berry]

Tiny ass head yharim

[spring helm]

disjointed head

[crimson finch]

Yharim looks like the guy that eats deviled eggs for every meal

[stark basalt]

Oh they’re gonna make a comeback

Just you wait

[spring helm]

when he was a lad he ate 4 dozen eggs every morning so he could get large

[random mulch]

good idea

[cloud ibex]

nah

i'm good

[spring helm]

too much yharmaxxing

[hoary berry]

No brain all muscle

[crimson finch]

and now that he’s grown he eats 5 dozen eggs so he’s roughly the size of a barge

[mighty zenith]

when you capitalize a letter in a word by accident

[hoary berry]

Lmao

[spring helm]

when you have caps lock on and accidentally press shift for the first letter

[random mulch]

idk what i'm doing anymore

help

[spring helm]

big foot

[crimson finch]

No it’s like capitalizing the middle of the word

Like

grATEfull

[mighty zenith]

yHarim

[random mulch]

beefrim

[wheat walrus]

Jarvis, capitalize every U in my text

[mighty zenith]

stop

jerry is an illusion

[stark basalt]

When you least expect it

[hoary berry]

Yharim caricature

[cloud ibex]

nah

i'm good

[nimble oyster]

do i need to play 1.3 to play calamity?

[wheat walrus]

Imagine being scared of a redditor named Jerry 😭

[hoary berry]

How loreful

[random mulch]

if ucking had to

[mighty zenith]

[random mulch]

this is becoming complete nonesense

[spring helm]

no

[mighty zenith]

as usual for lore disc

[nimble oyster]

the calamity mod doesnt pop up

even though i downloaded the calamity mod and the music on steam

[mighty zenith]

#help-advice-read-pins 👍

[nimble oyster]

i have done exactly what it said and it doesnt pop up for me

[mighty zenith]

go to properties, betas and set them to "none"

then open tmod

[nimble oyster]

oh wait nvm it just came now

i had to restart my terraria. LoLz

[reef elk]

Always restart first

[pliant ruin]

real honestly

[pliant ruin]

i'm one of the only two members of mine 🔥

[magic epoch]

except i come in here sometimes

[mighty zenith]

no you dont

[pliant ruin]

family (consisting of Me and my Aunt and Nobody Else

[mighty zenith]

💥

[crimson finch]

🔥

[pliant ruin]

and i don't mean that as in like

i don't like the other people in my family

i mean that as in everybody else is dead

[crimson finch]

Oh.

I’m sorry about that.

[pliant ruin]

its ok it's been a long time already for like all of them

[stark basalt]

That’s gotta be hard, cheese

[crimson finch]

Glad your doing okay

At least I hope your doing okay

[cloud ibex]

oh.

[pliant ruin]

i am doing pretty okay i think maybe i shouldn't have said that i think i made the chat's mood alot worse

[mighty zenith]

nah it's okay

[crimson finch]

Nah we’re just I don’t know how to say it

Uhhh crap uh

[pliant ruin]

look at this worm

[crimson finch]

Where

I love worms

🪱

[random mulch]

look at this cool yhar

[mighty zenith]

cute squirtl jumpscar

[crimson finch]

the boy!!!

[pliant ruin]

WTF I LOVE THT YHAR

badass

WHAT

DISCORD HCANGED

[pliant ruin]

DISCORD CHANGED THE WAY THE PROFILE LOOKS

WTF

[mighty zenith]

SCISSOR HELMET

[pliant ruin]

WHJY IS IT SO CONDENSED NOW

[cloud ibex]

i should draw the yhar again at some point

[mighty zenith]

yharim if he was a plantera clone

[crimson finch]

captain cream

[random mulch]

you should

[cloud ibex]

i did one of his head ages back

his design is cool

[crimson finch]

That is a pretty cool worm

[cloud ibex]

this one

holds up fairly alright

[mighty zenith]

mithrix

[cloud ibex]

he's here

[mighty zenith]

i like it (besides the dot eyes, i just dont think they fit )

[cloud ibex]

yeah i probably wouldn't do the dot eyes this time

[frozen zodiac]

if only we could have the original worm boss back

[random mulch]

i draw the official yharim but i also do my own

[stark basalt]

Oh damn

[spring helm]

those are some thick horns

[crimson finch]

EoW is nights edge and DoG is True Nights Edge

[random mulch]

currently kinda fucking around with helmets but yknow

[spring helm]

that is a giant gap

[crimson finch]

Yeah

Also what happened to the Bloody Edge???

Wait actually nah EoW is lights bane

DoG is True Nights Edge

[frozen zodiac]

the color scheme doesnt really fit

[random mulch]

yharim is somehow both the most hyped boss in all of modded terraria and still years away

[crimson finch]

Wdym they’re both purple

That’s good enough

[frozen zodiac]

also i dont think DoG is connected in any way to the corruption besides being a worm

[mighty zenith]

silksong

[crimson finch]

Nah I’m just comparing them cause they’re both worms

[cloud ibex]

[frozen zodiac]

THE PAIN NEVER ENDS THE PAIN NEVER ENDS

[crimson finch]

Not theorizing

[random mulch]

no way silksong is a terraria boss??

[mighty zenith]

yes

jane silksong

[cloud ibex]

see?

it's empty because silksong isn't real and is a void

a ceaseless void, if you will

[frozen zodiac]

YOOO LIKE THE

[crimson finch]

THATS LIKE THAT ONE ITEM FROM TBoI

[frozen zodiac]

isaac, and his mother, lived alone in a small house on the side of a hill

[pliant ruin]

silksong is real

i saw it

yesterday

it was horrifying

it stared at me from outside through my window

[random mulch]

we need more yharim themes

[spring helm]

he's got a theme?

[random mulch]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SY5LPpTnVI
rise of the jungle tyrant is pretty good but i've listened to it a lot

[spring helm]

yharim's the type of guy to hire an orchestra to play his theme while he's killing gods

[fleet marten]

https://youtu.be/Ur3pcWrp9NY?si=vkWIRHL_v42FCa5m

in my opinion it would fit although you can argue with that because on the one hand it is quite Calamity like and on the other hand it is too Calamity like

[fleet marten]

you too? You could say that I know it by heart

[dense moat]

so out of curiosity I've read the boss lore items and would like to know abt Yharim is there anymore items or places I could look to get all the lore. (I'm new here)

[rotund shore]

The lore document in this channels pins is pretty good, and considering yharim is just about the most important character in the lore, it'll contain alot about him

[pliant ruin]

Lore doc is probably your best choice as courier said but a brief tl;dr is that he's the main villain of the mod which started a genocidal crusade against gods and their followers

[dense moat]

@rotund shore @pliant ruin Thanks a lot! I've been wanting to know more lately because the lore just sounds insane.

[pliant ruin]

no problem

i personally think the lore is pretty interesting, i like it a good bit

[rotund shore]

Yharim is pretty firmly the most important character, but now im thinking about who I would consider to be the second most

[dense moat]

yeah i got done playing through on infernium with wrath of the gods and i was also wondering if that addon is cannon or not

[pliant ruin]

Nope, no addons are canon

[pliant ruin]

I think it's debatable beetween Xeroc, Yharon, Draedon and Calamitas

Draedon definitely has the most presence within a playthrough

But Xeroc and Yharon have more importance to the core plot of the mod

[rotund shore]

yeah draedon made the entire sulphurous sea and a bunch of bosses, so he's certainly important

[pliant ruin]

Calamitas on the other hand is p much on the same level of importance as Draedon more or less, but on the other hand she's currently not as much of a presence in the actual game

But also she's the mod's mascot basically so there's that

Personally i'd say it's Xeroc

[rotund shore]

it should be renamed to the yharimity mod

or the draedonity mod

[pliant ruin]

but at the same time i also think you can make a case for all of the 4 i mentioned

[rotund shore]

what am I on about

[pliant ruin]

so

Also noxus probably is up there too

[rotund shore]

yeah I think draedon or xeroc are the best contenders

noxus would be up there if we knew anything about him yet

he's kind of just
there

[pliant ruin]

Yeah Noxus is

probably really important but also we know nothing about it so it's hard to say how important

[rotund shore]

You can probably list the things we know about him on one hand

[pliant ruin]

Noxus is definitely in the like

top 6 most important characters or something

it's just hard to tell in which position exactly because

yk

not much information

[dense moat]

gotta admit fighting the equivalent of God in wotg is crazy

[rotund shore]

We just need to steal noxus' credit card, if we get his social security number then he'll definitely be lore relevant!

[pliant ruin]

10 or less uhh let me think

1. Lives in the Distortion
2. 2nd strongest named character behind Xeroc
3. Leads/Commands DoG in some way
4. Possibly the source of the distortion's hive mind like structure
5. uhh
6. evil guy
9. noxus

[brisk frigate]

7. not a god. 8. more destructive then xeroc. 10. potentially older then the auric dragons

[pliant ruin]

We'll do that in vanilla calamity kind of later on maybe possibly

[pliant ruin]

Oh true

Though i didn't include not a god because i felt like that was a given but still

[brisk frigate]

people often think they are

so it's still something needed to be listed sadly

[pliant ruin]

Still it's interesting how little we know about Noxus

I'm sure we'll learn more eventually and all but

damn it really does work well to hype it up as this unknowable horror

[rotund shore]

This is what noxus looks like I decided (I made this in 10 seconds)

[pliant ruin]

Noxus is actually just MS paint

horrifying

[rotund shore]

if its MS paint, then it can be anything, assuming you can draw said thing within a very limited art program

Noxus could even be this weird cat I drew in 30 seconds

[hushed geyser]

Ok but

[pliant ruin]

it could be

[hushed geyser]

Is noxus hit character

Komajiro

From yokai watch

[pliant ruin]

no

[rotund shore]

maybe

[pliant ruin]

wait it's from yokai watch

[hushed geyser]

Death

[pliant ruin]

okay nevermind maybe it is

i thought it was a jujutsu kaisen or one piece thing so i just said no immediately

[rotund shore]

noxus is a big yokai watch fan real

[hushed geyser]

[rotund shore]

He's been praying for the YKW4 translation like everybody else has

[hushed geyser]

Doesn't yw4 have like

Tall nate

I would rather die than be tall nate

[rotund shore]

I dunno man I can't play the game yet due to not speaking japanese

[pliant ruin]

ive thought about learning japanese before because being able to indulge on really obscure japanese media for stuff i like sounds fun

but also i'm lazy

so

i'll remain bilingual for now

[hushed geyser]

It does have tall nate

[spring helm]

Noxus is yuri limbuscompany?

[crimson finch]

Noxus could secretly be me and I made the purple asswhole worm

[cloud ibex]

noxus being a spiderverse Spot-esque scribble Beast would actually be kinda sick

[crimson finch]

Noxus drawing a cartoonishly large anvil above the Terrarian’s head

[spring helm]

Scribbleverse vs spiderverse who would win

[hushed geyser]

Would be better if he's just a stick figure

[spring helm]

@wheat walrus

[hushed geyser]

How much

[spring helm]

$15

[hushed geyser]

Of the spiderverse

[spring helm]

Oh

The main cast

Not all of them that’s infinity

[hushed geyser]

What counts as the main cast of the spiderverse are we talking movies or like

[spring helm]

Yeah the movies

So like

[hushed geyser]

Oh then spiderverse cast

Spot is

[spring helm]

Peter B

[hushed geyser]

Absurd

[spring helm]

Miguel

And the others

[spring helm]

That’s why I included multiple spider-people

[pliant ruin]

noxus is HWAT

#WHAT

WHAT

[spring helm]

#lore-discussion message
noxus

[hushed geyser]

Ok but spot is like

4th wall break level probably

[spring helm]

okay wait

let's clarify some things so we don't accidentally talk about different people

who's on who's side again

Is he the hole guy

[hushed geyser]

He's the hole guy

[spring helm]

Okay

maybe just the spider-peeps then

[hushed geyser]

That's more fair

Unfortunately I sint know the opposing side

[spring helm]

tbh i dont either i was just saying words

oh right

scribble noxus

[hushed geyser]

The spider people might have a little trouble

"But would they lose"

"Nah, id win"

[crimson finch]

Gojed oh

[hushed geyser]

Go

I can't find his other half

Go(yuta)jo

[warm gull]

I don't think you can say that

[crimson finch]

Say what

[spring helm]

Gojo

[crimson finch]

JoJo

[hushed geyser]

Giojo

[rotund shore]

I’m curious, how strong do y’all approximate draedon is, just a standard robot his consciousness is in, no other bells or whistles, can he like, punch things competently hard

Iirc he has like 16k hp in the exo mechs fight which is nothing to scoff at

[pliant ruin]

He's certainly durable but in actual combat prowess uhh

I dont see any reason for him to go out of his way to add combat modifications or weapons on his bodies when they're incredibly disposable as is

So i don't imagine them to be particularly powerful unless he specifically were to design a unique model of his body for combat

[rotund shore]

Yeah I figured they really just aren’t that strong, no reason to put that much resources into something he’s realistically mass produced

[pliant ruin]

Yeah like i'm sure theyre strong based on durability alone when compared to most wild creatures and such but i also think they wouldnt do much to an actual powerful entity

[rotund shore]

Like, they’re strong enough for the amount of field research and practical use they actually get used for, and not much else

[pliant ruin]

Yah basically

[celest kettle]

He could probably win against a bunny in a fist fight

Do note that he has a gun

[real silo]

who would win
18 foot tall robot man with a flying chair
vs
bnuuy

[scenic olive]

Bnuy

Explosive bnuy

[buoyant inlet]

Chicken burger

[stark basalt]

Turkey burger better

[crimson finch]

X

❌

Beef Blurger reins supreme, trust me, half of my favorite foods are sandwiches and I have a sandwich type in my username

Do you guys say Zen-ith or ZEEn-ith?

I say ZEE personally

[warm hound]

why did he make the normal mechs?

[rotund shore]

To experiment with using souls, mostly

And it does seem like they were pretty invaluable soldiers in his crusade

[scenic olive]

Ze nith

[magic epoch]

zeen is typically american english afaik

zen is more common in like

Britain and such

[stark basalt]

I say zeenith bcuz it makes me feel cool

[warm gull]

redigit is from the us of a which means zeenith must be correct

[crimson finch]

I say ZEEnith cause it sounds like Peenith

Which is funny

[warm gull]

what in the goddamn

[sinful adder]

Who the hell would ever say zeen

[warm gull]

like

most people I know

zen-ith doesn't have the same flair yknow

[sinful adder]

I think it does

[fleet marten]

Zenyd it's a long story

[real silo]

penith

I mean what

Zen-ith sounds cooler

zeenith sounds like well

penis

Thus why I believe zen-ith is superior

[warm gull]

zeenith only sounds like penis because he said that

it's still cooler

zen-ith sounds... flat? in comparison

[cloud ibex]

yes

zen-ith is british

[real silo]

who does "he" refer to here

[wheat walrus]

Lore fellas will ping me at the slightest hint of powerscaling

[visual kiln]

#lore-discussion

[hoary berry]

tbf who else are we going to ask

[wheat walrus]

tur e

[hoary berry]

it's either you or someone who will tell us that cal is multiversal or something

[warm gull]

The guy who said it like 10 messages above me

[wheat walrus]

"calamity is outerverse level cause the non-canon shadowspec bar is stated to defy explanation"

[warm gull]

Um so basically minecraft steve with op solos almost all of fiction

[warm gull]

you see

I saw a youtube video that told me so

And it's the only video I've seen on the topic

Therefore its word is gospel

[wheat walrus]

[calm patio]

steve is overrated

[wheat walrus]

fr !

[solar wharf]

wouldnt by the argument of steve allow the terrarain to be way stronger

because stacks are 9999

and terraria probably has heavier objects made by gold

[wheat walrus]

yeah

but then again using inventory arguments almost never goes well unless it's something like Ark where you have a specific weight stats, meaning you could argue that you actually do lift your entire inventory, something you can't say for Terraria and Minecraft

[real silo]

the terrarian carrying 499950 blocks of stone without breaking a sweat

[calm patio]

then you hear "What about minecraft dungeons steve"

minecraft =/= mc dungeons

[wheat walrus]

oh and btw, Ark's Rockwell full-potential negs both Terraria and Minecraft 🗣️

hell that may as well be overkill

[warm gull]

If you use netherite blocks inside shulker boxes inside several layers of nbt data chests that all stack to 64 then steve can carry more

According to my single source once again

[solar wharf]

ye but thats using cheats to actually allow for that

[warm gull]

Og message

Op is included

[calm patio]

yes but can he beat scal though

[wheat walrus]

given how the best valid scaling I could make for vanilla Terraria is moon level and Minecraft small town level, and how ark's titans have a consistent Moon Level to Dwarf Star Level scale, yeah I think that Rockwell Prime Full Potential becoming the entire cosmology solos lol

[solar wharf]

you cant inculde OP because thats not something you can exactly powerscale?

[wheat walrus]

and may I add the moon level scale for vanilla Terraria is also very odd

[warm gull]

It is

[solar wharf]

it isnt omnipotency because that would imply steve is able to do anything (he cannot), it also isnt infinite lifting strength as that in itself IS omnipotency

you literally cannot explain that without defying some sort of logic

[wheat walrus]

it assumes that the ancient spirits inside of WoF cause eclipses, which is vague to say the least

[warm gull]

It isn't infinite

The nbt chests have a limit

Before they can't store any more data

But the limit calculated is like

[solar wharf]

but again, that isnt steves limit

[warm gull]

Unfathomably more than the observable universe

[warm gull]

But it is

[solar wharf]

in what sense?

[calm patio]

the thing is

[warm gull]

You can't carry any more in minecraft

Therefore that is the limit of what you can carry as steve

[calm patio]

yes, without cheating

the cap will always be 64

[wheat walrus]

so Universal lifting strength

[solar wharf]

"limit of what you can carry*

not what you can handle

steve is limitless by the very own argument

run that shit on an omnipotent PC

without changing much code, steve wouldnt have a limit

[warm gull]

Without cheating defeats the entire point rn because the premise is minecraft steve WITH op/commands

[calm patio]

then in this case we can use the terrarian with journey mode

[warm gull]

It isn't limited by the pc, it's limited by the game code

Hard coded limit

[solar wharf]

o

[warm gull]

Of nbt data

[warm gull]

I don't think the journey mode menu itself counts as carrying something, more like the ability to synthesize something

Same with mc creative inventory

[solar wharf]

you cant interact with them directly so yes

thats the case

unlike inventory

[wheat walrus]

I don't think that the inventory should be considered in powerscaling unless there's enough of an argument that the player actually does carry the weight of the entire inventory (like with Ark, or like when you cover yourself in armor, which is very much visible), this applies for both Minecraft and Terraria, especially if you wanna consider the former's Shulker Boxes, which are another level of what I'm trying to argue, you most definitely do not carry the full weight of what's inside the shulker boxes until there's enough proof to say otherwise

[warm gull]

But hundreds of layers of nbt chests all stacked to 64 inside each other with shulker boxes stacked to 64 inside the bottom layer with netherite blocks stacked inside of them is in fact larger in mass than the heaviest terraria item stacked once inside of each terraria piggy bank/safe/defender forge/void bag

And I don't think carrying multiple piggy banks etc counts any more than carrying multiple ender chests

[warm gull]

When it comes to games with external lore I agree that it has to be realistic to the universe, but when it comes to steve minecraft his only lore IS the game mechanics

[solar wharf]

ender chests is confirmed to have to do with distorting space

i wouldnt count weight in that

[wheat walrus]

fair

[wheat walrus]

also fair

[warm gull]

Yeah that's what I'm saying

Also in the minecraft end portal speech one of the entities that is talking directly mentions the fact that the player respawns so game mechanics are somewhat confirmed in mc as canon

[calm patio]

thats like saying for the terrarian of being your own headcanon to have respawning too

[wheat walrus]

who wulg win here tho 🐲🧝‍♀️

[warm gull]

No it isn't

Because it isn't headcanon

It's mentioned in teh game

[wheat walrus]

daichin is right in this one, it's not headcanon when it's confirmed by the game

[warm gull]

See john powerscaling said it himself

[jade root]

Omnipotence is never really properly considered in scaling due to the many issues that come with it, at least TRUE omnipotence
For example if you define omnipotence as the ability to do all that is logically possible then many would argue that is nigh omnipotence, true omnipotence would be the ability to do things completely illogical and nonsensical somehow, which is a fallacy in arguements etc

[warm gull]

Yeah it's defined as the ability to do anything

[visual kiln]

lore discussion users

haiiiiiiii

[warm gull]

Which is inherently paradoxical

[jade root]

So basically if 2 omnis fight just take cosmology into account instead
the one with biggest cosmology wins

[wheat walrus]

yes, omnipotence =/= boundless, because to be boundless you need an extremely crazy cosmology that is at least high outerverse level and then to be able to transcend that too

[visual kiln]

plumg

[wheat walrus]

lol

[jade root]

The issue here is that...technically true omnipotence is beyond boundless
Its the ability to do literally anything
a truly omnipotent character can straight up just go "im stronger than x,y,z just because, fuck you thats why i dont need bigger cosmology"
its literally a NLF incarnate lmao

[warm gull]

True omnipotence does equal boundless though

That's why it cannot be powerscaled

[jade root]

Cant even logically exist without being visciously circular anyways
its pointless

[wheat walrus]

yeah no I'm talking about omnipotence within a verse
if I'm omnipotent but my cosmology is only uni+, then I scale to that, not boundless

[lean crag]

Hello lore discussion

[warm gull]

Because the omnipotent thing can beat anything else and also can lose to anything else by virtue of being able to do anything

[wheat walrus]

hi zara

[visual kiln]

@lean crag

haiii

[lean crag]

@visual kiln

[wheat walrus]

hi ploozathoth

[lean crag]

Helooooo

[visual kiln]

wiatiwepgm daichin here

haiiiiiiiiiii

hello

[warm gull]

it's 530 am and I haven't slept

[visual kiln]

wtf

[warm gull]

And I'm fucking

Powerscaling

[visual kiln]

eeper

[jade root]

Yeah
just the general term referred to omnipotency in a verse
thats how it should be done

[lean crag]

Hit those zzzs

[visual kiln]

based

[lean crag]

💤

[visual kiln]

however

sleeping is objectively funner than powerscaling

🧩

[warm gull]

Everything is objectively funner than powerscaling

Well

One would say

More fun

[lean crag]

that’s not a high bar

[lean crag]

IM JOKING!!

[solar wharf]

you know i have been interested in this question and since there is a lot of powerscalers

how do you even scale blackholes

[visual kiln]

fun fact

[solar wharf]

when we dont really understand what they are?

unless you use a specific theory?

[visual kiln]

attack on titan universe is solo'd by the mechs

[warm gull]

Black holes solo omni man according to omni man

[solar wharf]

which wouldnt that change calc

depending on which theory is accepted

[visual kiln]

mech bosses

they solo all titans ever

[warm gull]

Also black holes power level varies based on their size

[wheat walrus]

it's very odd:
I do know that if you create/destroy a black hole, you calculate the gpe (gravitational potential energy iirc, can't remember what it stands for since I don't do those calcs much) of the black hole based on how much mass it has

dunno much else since I'm not too big into powerscaling stuff as powerful as that

[jade root]

People just say solar mass count = strength
black holes as we understand mess with spacetime as we know it, a theoretically infinitely dense 1 dimensional point (or circle if you use kerr black holes) that essentially invert the light cones of the space you are in
By the literal flow of time (so to speak) nothing with mass should be ever able to escape a black hole unless it has an infinite amount of energy to pull itself out due to the fuckery that goes on in there

[warm gull]

You don't powerscale thing that big

I don't know shit about science

We are not the same

[wheat walrus]

yeah

[visual kiln]

black holes solo people's moms

[warm gull]

Not yours

[visual kiln]

wtf

y nor

[lean crag]

zamn

[warm gull]

I'm sure I'll collapse by say

730

Maybe 8

[solar wharf]

i asked this because the only type of powerscaling i have went into was that of godzilla, and godzilla has 3 instances of just destroying a blackhole with its beam, which does not make sense as blackholes devour anything, so some people either state that, it isnt an actual blackhole, or it is, whats ur take on this matter?

[wheat walrus]

weak !

[warm gull]

Real ones know I gotta stay up all night to unfuckify my sleep schedule

[wheat walrus]

fr

[jade root]

Besides, power scaling isnt that accurate
I mean, logically speaking if you were to throw goku or superman into a black hole, they absolutely would die very fucking easily, black holes dont just crush, they literally fuck with the very way spacetime itself works inside you
But due to neither of those characters being written to account for any of that they get a pass because cool and awesome story etc etc

[jade root]

fiction doesnt really care
illogical things happen all the time
its silly but it is what it is

[visual kiln]

i dont sleep ever

[wheat walrus]

Disufiroa from MHFrontier VS Calamity

[visual kiln]

58942985945982945 hours of no sleep >:3

[warm gull]

Yeah power scaling is just 11yos saying "I punch you infinite times!" "Oh yeah? Well I punch you infinity times infinite times!" But made sophistocated and socially acceptable for adults

[wheat walrus]

Hell naw da bot

[visual kiln]

interesting

[jade root]

Its all fun and games until you realise that the 11 year olds are right
some infinities are actually bigger than others

[warm gull]

Do not the math

[wheat walrus]

(Disufiroa is the only monster that can scale to Moon Level)

[visual kiln]

gender disufiroa

[wheat walrus]

That's right

Disufiroa's name may come from the word "dysphoria", unironically

[warm gull]

she disphori on my gender till I a?

[visual kiln]

im removing gender

[pliant ruin]

king dedede from the kirby series

[visual kiln]

its gone now

also interesting

[pliant ruin]

why u do that

[visual kiln]

ummmmmmm

felt like it

[pliant ruin]

my gender gone

:(

[warm gull]

I hate kirby so much

[visual kiln]

ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

regenders u

wtf

irby

[pliant ruin]

yay gender

[warm gull]

stupid ass pink ball should not be able to defeat universes and shit

he shrimply

looks too stupid to win

[pliant ruin]

I like kirby cuz he likes eating sweets and is my friend

[warm gull]

I mean I guess he's sakurai's oc so he can do what he wants

probably gypsy danger beats optimus prime though

[last marlin]

i can powerscale, im a professional powerscaler and debater

[last marlin]

does ''draedon is made out of wulfrum'' sound familiar?

[pliant ruin]

How do u powerscale professionally

[last marlin]

there's a whole community for that. we got wikis, we got measuring systems (hierarchies)

[wheat walrus]

ofc lol

[pliant ruin]

This implies you can do powerscaling as a job
Imagine getting paid cuz you said "goku is universe level"

[wheat walrus]

this one crazy though, not even gonna argue it cause I'm not big into undertale but it sounds funny given everything else I found about UT lol

[last marlin]

goku is high outer IN MY OPINION.
since it is never a fact where anything scales.

[wheat walrus]

for real though

it is never a fact

[last marlin]

i can show you stuff you never seen abt undertale

[hoary berry]

tbf if i could get paid for doing that i too would spout bullshit about powerscaling

[wheat walrus]

it's all subjective

[pliant ruin]

me too

[warm gull]

guys I just created a character

[last marlin]

trust me. its a toxic waste land

[wheat walrus]

me if i got paid for powerscaling