lore-discussion

[random mulch]

no

[keen jetty]

Where do I start then?

Reading the over world first?

[scenic yacht]

all the currently in-game lore is summarised in the lore doc found in pins

[golden oasis]

someone PLEASE tell me that post ascension xeroc isn't a freaking worm

[cold owl]

So ik that we have a powerscale (Xeroc > Fovos > Noxus >> Yharim = Zeratros > Jared > Calamitas = Exo Mechs). But where do you think Silva would be in all this?

[scenic olive]

Good news

[cold owl]

VERY unlikely

[scenic olive]

But noxus

[golden oasis]

silva from what i know isn't exceptional compared to other gods yharim has faced, she just cant die

[scenic olive]

Might be a giant worm

Maybe the distortion is a giant worm

And ceaseless void is one of its mouth

[solar wharf]

calamitas = exo mechs > silva

maybe even >> but i doubt it

[cold owl]

So Silva is right behind them?

[scenic olive]

what happens if you eat silva

[scenic yacht]

you die

[scenic olive]

do you digest her or does her body survive the acid

[scenic yacht]

also you just ate a fucking humanoid

[golden oasis]

maybe we can use providence as a basis for the strength of a god
is providence ever tiered?

[cold owl]

She may not be able to die, but she can get really fucked up

[scenic olive]

I mean, just a lil bit

Tiny teeny bit

[golden oasis]

yeah, she got cement shoes'ed and is basically brain dead in the abyss

[cold owl]

Crippled

[scenic olive]

[golden oasis]

https://tenor.com/view/goofy-concrete-boots-mafia-goofy-concrete-boots-gif-26737762

an example of imortality kinda not being that cool long term

[scenic olive]

Hey

[sinful adder]

Is Silva actually brain dead? She influenced the primordial wyrm somehow

[scenic olive]

Dont be like that

[shut tide]

silva:

[scenic olive]

Silva will eventually put herself back

[sinful adder]

Yeah I thought so

[golden oasis]

i think she's mostly just perpetually knocked out

[sinful adder]

I don't think so

[golden oasis]

if somethign brought her out of the abyss maybe after a very long period she'd wake back up, but as she is now, effectively, braindead

[scenic olive]

Eventually she stopped thinking

[shut tide]

if yharim threw her to space

[scenic olive]

half mineral half silva floating in space

[scenic yacht]

then she creates alien life because why not

[cold owl]

I imagine Silva is just in like a deep coma until she returns

[golden oasis]

yeah, what im sayin

[scenic olive]

Then she recreates another terrarian world filled with life

then we invade that world

they called us the martians

[shut tide]

silva comes back and finds out her champion is stuck in some random fucking place thanks to some bitch ass worm

[golden oasis]

nowhere is safe from the player

[cold owl]

Yharim beat Silva into a coma

[golden oasis]

would be cool if we could break him out but likely not

[scenic olive]

we will see him

in the distortion

[golden oasis]

yeah ik

as an npc

[scenic olive]

Im going to fight him

[golden oasis]

but it might be unlikely we have the option to take him home as a townie, as neat as it'd be

[scenic olive]

Champion of the life goddess am going to beat his ass

[cold owl]

Pretty sure the devs said smth about his npc not being a permanent one (like a travelling merchant)

[scenic olive]

Fuck this guy in particular

[golden oasis]

i thought they said that about statis, not braelor

[scenic olive]

Braelor likes ant

NOO

I thought i sealed that away long time ago

[shut tide]

thats statis

[scenic olive]

[solar wharf]

aido is within all of us...

[golden oasis]

you guys think when yharim boss fight is done when we find him, he's going to go on some lore speech or will he just go skyrim ebony warrior and immediately begin shooting us without even a word

[shut tide]

that would be funny, you walk in and the mf locks in

[scenic olive]

He'll not attack unprovoked

[golden oasis]

idk if he's ever NOT locked in

[shut tide]

when fighting the dynamic duo

[scenic olive]

He was motivated

[golden oasis]

https://tenor.com/view/vergil-chair-dmc-yamato-gif-21401933

[shut tide]

motivated...is that a...

[golden oasis]

#yamotoforcalamitymod
we already have the masamune as an overpowered reference sword so WHY NOT ANOTHER?!
(this is a joke

[scenic olive]

I wonder

Can you put Auric souls into machines

[golden oasis]

normally likely not

[scenic olive]

you can put normal souls into the mechs

[golden oasis]

but mf draedon would likely find a way to

[scenic olive]

As seen with the trio mech

[solar wharf]

you probably can assuming auric souls funcition the same as normal ones, just connected to the world soul

[golden oasis]

what IS the world soul btw?

[solar wharf]

idk

[scenic olive]

Soul of the planet

something like that

basically the domain expands to the whole planet itself

[cold owl]

Yes ik Statis is confirmed that but I'm pretty sure I heard that Braelor MIGHT be a wondering npc.

[random mulch]

hope yharim goes like "you're not here to hear me monologue, are you?" and waits for the fight to start

[shut tide]

Statis is the wandering npc, and braelor is trapped in the distortion

[scenic olive]

At last you finally came

our battle will be legendary

[shut tide]

Our battle shall be legendary!

[scenic olive]

[cold owl]

The diffence is Braelor MIGHT be one, but we know Statis WILL be one

[scenic olive]

Statis is immune to slipping on a banana peel

hes a ninja

[shut tide]

Im pretty sure he will be, yk since he is a big part of lore and all

[scenic olive]

[cold owl]

I mean lore wise, it could make sense why Braelor doesn't live with us since he is in love with Statis, so why wouldn't he go on his way to be with Statis.

[golden oasis]

didnt statis worship slime god at one point

[shut tide]

yes

[golden oasis]

imagine talking to statis and hes like "so you killed slime god, that kinda sucks but whatever"

[shut tide]

he was once apart of the onyx kingsmen

i dont think statis knows slime god is dead

[scenic olive]

Statis made a deal with signus

that deal

what was the deal

[shut tide]

no one knows

[cold owl]

Him and his clan "The Onyx Kinsmen" are confirmed to have worshiped both Slime God and Signus.

[golden oasis]

maybe statis will tell us once he's added

[shut tide]

signus was not worshipped

[golden oasis]

theres no way he doesnt have a bunch of lore dialogue

[scenic olive]

That deal was doing Signus chores

Hence why hes trapped in Distortion

Bro became a butler

Outer Dimendional Ninja Butler

[cold owl]

An aberration that defies all explanation, borne of the Distortion and revered by the Onyx Kinsmen.

Quote from Yharim

[shut tide]

huh

right

[cold owl]

He was revered

[shut tide]

I love how for storm weaver we now have, "he is similar to DoG" and "No he is not similar to DoG"

Yharim and draedon about to have a heated argument over a worm

[scenic olive]

Yharim : same worm
Draedon : nuh uh

[shut tide]

Draedon when yharim calls storm weaver of same race as DoG

[scenic olive]

Welll ackhtually

Yharim : shut the fuck youre cringe
Draedon :

[cold owl]

The only confirmed beings that the Onxys Kinsmen revered is Signus and slime god, though there's maybe more.

[scenic olive]

insert the draedon gif telling you he cannot assist your further in getting bitches

[golden oasis]

cant wait for statis to show up and then he just doesnt share his lroe to troll the player!

"stop asking me about that shit are you going to buy my spelunker glowstick or not"

[cold owl]

If he doesn't, he's about to have Yharim ptsd and meet the same fate as his clan did

[shut tide]

So.. consedring they nearly killed Yharim, How strong are statis and braelor?

[golden oasis]

if a god calls you their champion that's gotta mean SOMETHING

[shut tide]

Yharim gotta stay in the aeire or hes finished!!

[scenic olive]

what if Statis and Braelor killed Yharim

[solar wharf]

it was a 2v1 and they made it seem like braelor and statis did struggle, so i'd say

its safe to assume

exo mechs and calamitas > braelor or statis

thats also a weak yharim

[golden oasis]

well, the game wouldn't have a proper ending silly

[solar wharf]

one with no exo technology

[golden oasis]

you beat scal and exos and just statis appears and is liek "yharim is dead"
roll credits

[scenic olive]

Exo Technomancer

[solar wharf]

i'd assume the events would be mostly the same, just no yharon fight and the player is like

heavily fucking confused

on his way

braelor might be a boss fight

if he sees us just wiping bosses

he would be like

[cold owl]

Braelor is def the stronger of the two and they probably would have actually won if Statis didn't hesitate when Braelor and Yharim's blades were locked and DoG didnt intrude.

[solar wharf]

"got to stop this"

[shut tide]

I feel like braelor might not care

after all

the player seems to have no beef with silva

[scenic olive]

How heavy is Yharim in armor

[shut tide]

plus most of the bosses tried to kill us

[solar wharf]

i dont think

braelor would let SG just

die by our hands

[shut tide]

He probbably doesnt know SG is dead

tbh i dont think he cares for SG

[cold owl]

Poor Aquatic Scourge...

[solar wharf]

im talking if yharim IS dead

he got killed by them

[shut tide]

oh

[solar wharf]

that means they are still in the world

dog never kidnapped them

which means

[shut tide]

if yharim was dead i dont think the terrarian would be killing a fuck ton of things

[solar wharf]

they would see us

killing fucking SG

[solar wharf]

thats headcanon territory, its assuming the terrarain headcanon of urs motivation depends on yharim

im assuming thats not the case

[shut tide]

fair

[solar wharf]

and the player did it for another reason

[cold owl]

Hypothetically, most of the events wouldn't have changed much since in the lore doc, it says that the battle between Braelor and Statis vs Yharim happened several months before the Terrarian comes in.

[solar wharf]

ye

its just depends if ur headcanon

for the terrarain

motivation depends on yharim being alive

or not

if it does, then the terrarain wouldnt commit mass genocide

well

in self defense

[shut tide]

the terrarian seeing a random ass worm in a polluted ocean (their gonna use a little stabby sword to kill it in seconds, [why the fuck is submarine shocker so fucking op])

[cold owl]

• "Yharim’s armor was upgraded less than a year before the start of the game, and Braelor and Statis made their fateful assassination attempt only a few months before that." Quote from the person who made the lore doc idk who

So if Yharim would have died then, not much would have changed I believe, the damage was already done.

[scenic olive]

If we kill Yharim what does that accomplish us

[cold owl]

Depends on headcanon, my headcanon is that the Terrarian is a force of justice and the Terrarian is on its way to kill Yharim for his many war crimes.

[scenic olive]

[shut tide]

Uhh nigh infinite power

[scenic olive]

Superman

[scenic olive]

Omni man

[cold owl]

Though a logical reason would be because it's implied that the Terrarians goal since the beginning.

[shut tide]

Well its up to you

If you wanna kill yharim for justice or kill him for shits and giggles

[cold owl]

Ya its up to headcanon

[shut tide]

the terrairan slaughtering hundreds because yharim stole their grilled cheese

[cold owl]

Justified

[crimson finch]

A very cool relic, a treasure bag, a trophy, and probably some health potions and hearts

[pliant ruin]

exos -> treasure box

calamitas -> treasure coffer

yharim -> ?

[crimson finch]

Oh I never knew they had different bags

Yharim’s would be Treasure Jar (of pickles)

[pliant ruin]

i was guessing strange hive

i mean

treasure hive

brain stupid

idit

[real silo]

Yharim drops a treasure key that unlocks his personal armory

[buoyant inlet]

auric lootbox

[chilly estuary]

whats the lore behind WoF?

Also wtf is the lore behind meteor heads lmfao

[mighty zenith]

a fleshy construct made by mages from azafure to contain god essence

[chilly estuary]

whats azafure and what godly essence

[mighty zenith]

azafure is the city that became the brimstone crag

[shut tide]

azafure is the brimstone crags

oft called the first city

[chilly estuary]

oop

[mighty zenith]

god essence is what is left of a god afted they die

[chilly estuary]

I dont think I got to the brimstone stuff yet

[chilly estuary]

oh damn

[mighty zenith]

since they try to cling onto life and spread

[shut tide]

was incinerated during calamitas and brimstone elementals fight

[chilly estuary]

I just beat WoF (calamity)

I only know stuff upto that point

[shut tide]

WoF contains godly essence and im going to assume some of it clings to the terrarian and thats why (in lore) the mechs go after you

[chilly estuary]

oh damn

[mighty zenith]

the god stank

[pliant ruin]

skeletron prime is my favorite war criminal

[mighty zenith]

war criminal(s)

[pliant ruin]

well thta's a lie gregor is my favorite war criminal but ignore that

[pliant ruin]

the lore for meteor heads is actually very deep

it goes:

they are heads

meteor

[buoyant inlet]

Probably just semi sentient chunks of meteor

maybe mana from the meteor gives them this sentience

[solar wharf]

is yharim the second human we kill?

is lunatic cultist even a human actually

[urban hedge]

Is Yharim even a human (pretty sure Yharim is human, but tbf it's not a 100% chance)

Dunno about Cultist, though

[solar wharf]

i mean he looks human

dryads also look human tho but like

there is no way yharim's a dryad

[urban hedge]

Kinda doubt the cultist is a Lihzahrd, at least

[shut tide]

why would he by a dryad

dryads follow a goddess

[solar wharf]

humans follow gods/goddesses

look what yharim did

outliers exist

[urban hedge]

That's why they said "there is no way yharim's a dryad"

[solar wharf]

but i heavily

like heavily doubt

yharim is a dryad

that does not make sense

[shut tide]

im dumb as fuck

[solar wharf]

yharim is probably a human, what else could he be

what other sapient species there is

the fish people, but yharim is certainly not one of them, and he also does not have fucking fins

[urban hedge]

Ilmerans, Lihzahrds, maybe more

[solar wharf]

hes racist against the lihzahrds

[shut tide]

i doubt he would be an ilmeran

[urban hedge]

There are other things (like Gods or Eidolists, which I assume are sapient), but those ones are kind of outliers and not species

[solar wharf]

he cannot be an ilmeran, he does not have fins

[shut tide]

i mean he got someone to incinerate the place so..

[solar wharf]

he has legs

they are jacked too

he does not have a physique of a ilmeran

he also like... really despises lihzahrds but that could be a self racism moment

he just really hates his people

lunatic cultist is a guy who really love dragons

is there a race that does that

[shut tide]

the dragon cult.. the cult we know nothing about

[solar wharf]

do they worship dragons or

do they like

love dragons

[shut tide]

well... most of em are dead so...

[solar wharf]

is the dragon cult the equivlant to like vegans in their world

"do not kill the dragons, they have lives too you know"

[urban hedge]

Ig it's not 100% implausible that the Cultists are something like Eidolists, where they're not 100% what they originally were, but tbh I kinda doubt it

[solar wharf]

eidiolists are cultist members

no?

[urban hedge]

They used to be

here's their bestiary entry: "Once members of the dragon cult, they now beg the favor of a new master. They are able to live in the abyss indefinitely thanks to their wyrm-like form, allowing them to serve a new purpose."

[solar wharf]

that silvaibles hit hard

[shut tide]

"of a new master"... silva?

[solar wharf]

i'd assume PW

[shut tide]

i doubt PW

[graceful otter]

wyrms

[shut tide]

PW cares more about protecting the terminus and throwing hands with xeroc (PW would lose)

[solar wharf]

ye but i dont think worshippers care

[urban hedge]

Pretty sure it's supposed to be the Eidolon Wyrms. You know, the thing they're named after.

[shut tide]

i mean that could be it

[solar wharf]

i also dont think PW is sapient to actually say

"yo guys, i dont want ur dumbass service, leave"

[shut tide]

Not sure how your gonna be listening to.... wyrms that just make sounds

[graceful otter]

think about it

why would the cultists worhsip a new thing

and why the wyrms

[urban hedge]

Iirc the Wyrms are relatives of dragons

[solar wharf]

because they are dragon descendant

and they are like

[graceful otter]

yes

[solar wharf]

very cool

[graceful otter]

so why would they start worshipping them over the dragons

[shut tide]

well all the dragons are gone (excluding yharon but... i dont think they really know)

[solar wharf]

because there is no other dragon

[graceful otter]

c:

[solar wharf]

if ur madly inlove with worshipping this goddess, but she just disappears and leaves in her place, her child, wouldnt u worship that child instead?

[urban hedge]

There are other dragons around, though (like Fishrons), but they're probably too rare

[solar wharf]

aggressive actually

both dragonfollies and fishrons

are aggressive

wyrms are the only ones that arent

that could explain it

[shut tide]

until you pull out the rod of discord

or hit them but

[solar wharf]

ye

[graceful otter]

thats only pw

[solar wharf]

does pw hate zeratros or xeroc

[shut tide]

xeroc

it dislikes any signs of usupred light

[solar wharf]

which zeratros controlled

wyrm wasnt there when

xeroc consumed the auric soul

how does it know

[shut tide]

wyrm wasnt blessed then

[solar wharf]

xeroc did it

wdym?

[shut tide]

silva blessed PW

[graceful otter]

pw was alive during the ascension

[shut tide]

thats how it gained its strength

this is after xerocs ascension

[urban hedge]

That might be old lore

[shut tide]

nope

[graceful otter]

offshoots came about in the middle of the draconic era, xeroc marked the end of it

[pliant island]

https://calamitymod.wiki.gg/wiki/Primordial_Wyrm

[graceful otter]

this is new lore

[shut tide]

The first Wyrm, blessed by the Goddess of Life, held staggering power that surpassed nearly all of its auric brethren. It held a deep hatred for any sign of usurped light, and would have attempted to strike down even the wielder of Primordial Light had they returned to reclaim their artifact. And yet, despite its immense power, it never would have stood a chance."

[solar wharf]

so it was actually alive when xeroc ascended

[urban hedge]

Double checked, you are correct

[graceful otter]

yes

[solar wharf]

but it still decided to side with another god

either PW doesnt know, had special connection to zeratros, or the way silva ascended wasnt fucked

[untold bluff]

What in the devourer's biology allows it to fly?

I know there are several flying worm bosses, but what about bosses like DoG and Storm Weaver in particular

They seem to be outliers from the native life on terraria, and could possibly even be related to crawltipedes

[scenic yacht]

Probably something something space/gravity distortion

Doesnt DoG apply extreme gravity (even tho it may just be gameplay)

I now realise distortion may not have been the best choice of word

[pliant ruin]

i mean

[untold bluff]

Though I wonder what allows DoG to do this, because I don't think he knows much about how to use magic since he's a worm

[pliant ruin]

they're glurpzoids from the greezlingian dimension

it makes sense they'd do some weird incomprehensible shenanigans

[untold bluff]

Maybe devourer and weaver have organs that allow them to fly

Idk

[pliant ruin]

honestly i doubt its anything biological

[untold bluff]

Technology?

[pliant ruin]

trying to explain the devourer or anything from the distortion really with earthly biology and laws is probably gonna lead to nothing

[scenic yacht]

Nah that wouldnt make sense really

[untold bluff]

Dude once the full devourer design becomes public I need an official anatomy drawing for them

[scenic yacht]

He wouldve come to terraria and kinda just dropped wouldnt he

[untold bluff]

Like a cross section of DoG

[pliant ruin]

Devourer, Storm Weaver and everything inbeetween comes from a unknowable realm that Draedon himself dosen't understand

There's no point in trying to get a reasonable explanation for things like it

[scenic yacht]

Yeah

[untold bluff]

I heard that draedon has a lab there I think

[pliant ruin]

He has explored it briefly

That's about it

the little he found out was that the creatures in there have ''biology" that is completely unlike anything on earth and makes no sense

and

that something in there was threatening enough to the point draedon just gave up research on it entirely

you gotta be pretty scary to scare the literal apathic robot

[chilly estuary]

NO WAY WHATTTT

Thas pretty deep ngl

[woeful karma]

awaawawavjkndfs.,.

the owner of the lore doc has intentionally never been a part of the dev team
also wdym

[solar wharf]

wait shes the first dryad?

[mighty zenith]

yuh

[solar wharf]

so shes the first dryad, the elemental of life

and the goddess of life

she has too many titles man

[mighty zenith]

silva collecting titles like motherfucking uhh general ultimax

[spring helm]

You guys were talking about the Braelor & Statis vs Yharim fight earlier

Here’s what Stip had to say about it when I asked him

[crimson finch]

He still got jumped by the Slimy Shinobi & Plant Paladin

Just wasn’t preemptive

[stark basalt]

Ant man and the wasp vs bee guy

[crimson finch]

Exactly

[daring crater]

Here’s my question - what sort of lore significance does Providence’s connection to the hallow have? Or is that just a holdover from old lore? I vaguely recall something about a planned sub world

[urban hedge]

Old lore

Idk if a sub world is planned

[daring crater]

Makes sense

[woeful karma]

its a holdover

[daring crater]

Hm. Here’s another one - who built the stuff in the vernal pass? I have an inkling that this may have been yharim’s original people. There’s obviously yharim’s strange reverence towards queen bees, and there’s that small hive area nearby.

Maybe fond childhood memories?

[urban hedge]

I don't think it's yharims people, it's probably just some random group of people who are focused on gardening or something like that. It's not really elaborated on much.

[daring crater]

Yharim only really shows compassion towards people he has personal connections to. Otherwise he’d just regard the plagued bees as distasteful, not a dealbreaker

Hence my theory

He may no longer be the jungle tyrant, and yharon may no longer be the jungle dragon, but he may yet have STARTED there

[pliant ruin]

Probalby the ppl who made plantera

[visual kiln]

ploo

[spring helm]

too many ploos

fight to the death

[pliant ruin]

ploo

[urban hedge]

Would a ploo ever go to a pool?

[spring helm]

who is that in your pfp cheesy ploo

[pliant ruin]

its yuri from limbus company

[spring helm]

okay

[pliant ruin]

https://tenor.com/view/project-moon-limbus-company-yuri-charon-lapis-gif-9565288922976007154

[spring helm]

wow, great

i type "limbus company yuri"
and the autofill gives me "limbus company yuri death"

[wheat walrus]

why do girls kissing appear when I search that name 😰

[spring helm]

my bad g

[pliant ruin]

its ok shes alive

shes doing fine

mhm

yup

doing fine doing good

alive

not dead

[spring helm]

🫵 who is your pfp

[visual kiln]

me

[spring helm]

😔

serus answer pls and ty

[visual kiln]

picrew

[spring helm]

oh you made it yourself?

[visual kiln]

ye

[spring helm]

cool

[solar wharf]

hello popcorn, hello octo

[spring helm]

well my job just got a lot harder that's so awesome ploo, do you mind dm'ing me that photo

[spring helm]

🦆

[wheat walrus]

that's not octo that's aza

[solar wharf]

whats the difference

[spring helm]

okay so i wasn't going nuts

[wheat walrus]

cat vs bnnuy

[visual kiln]

what is ur job

[spring helm]

i dont have one lmao

[wheat walrus]

draw ploo vs ploo

[solar wharf]

oh wait

LMAO

SORRY

[spring helm]

fuck, how did you figure it out

[wheat walrus]

easy

[spring helm]

red ploo

[spring helm]

have i become predictable

[wheat walrus]

I just kept in mind what you were sayin

and figured it out myself

[wheat walrus]

starting from here

[spring helm]

fair enough

[visual kiln]

i payed 0 attention and never guessed at all

[wheat walrus]

silly

[pliant ruin]

WTF

YURILÇIMBUS COMPANY

ME

[spring helm]

1233popcorn staring closely at his laptop to see what's in @visual kiln's pfp

[visual kiln]

[solar wharf]

popcorn is the peak of this chat

[scenic olive]

Ploo

[spring helm]

im not gonna lie bunny ploo, your character is fucking hard to draw for some reason

[hushed geyser]

Me:(tvox)

[spring helm]

alright here's bunny ploo

[pliant ruin]

WTF

@visual kiln YOU

[visual kiln]

HAII

[graceful otter]

wats going on

[scenic olive]

Bunny plhoo

[spring helm]

one is slightly bigger than the other

lore implications

[pliant ruin]

would you draw a third ploo if we paid you in uhmm

images of fish

[spring helm]

who is the third ploo

[pliant ruin]

shes not in this server but you should draw her pfp iirc

[mighty zenith]

aureus is the third ploo actually

[pliant ruin]

NO

[solar wharf]

LMAO

[humble fog]

So true

[mighty zenith]

,,,,

[pliant ruin]

NO

this dosent happen

[solar wharf]

music box is the best invention

[scenic olive]

phlooh

[noble niche]

Is there a lore reason why dreadon kinda cute tho?

[crimson finch]

Woah

[graceful otter]

it made convincing people easier

[humble fog]

It’s pride month

[mighty zenith]

[humble fog]

Hiii garbo

[noble niche]

That's it!

[trim edge]

it's how he attracted yharim's attention

if yharim was out of the equation, would draedon have preferred to study auric souls with yharon alive or dead

[mighty zenith]

it's how he attracted yharim~~'s attention~~

[solar wharf]

LMAO

[humble fog]

Hop on tmod gif

[noble niche]

https://tenor.com/view/yharim-draerim-calamity-calamity-mod-hop-on-gif-14507370317284012742

[wheat walrus]

I mean

the gif literally shows an explosion

[raven terrace]

What if Calamitas met the Wizard?

Like the normal wizard. The one with da purple hat.

[pliant ruin]

idk

he's got as much character as most of the other vanilla npcs so

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[graceful otter]

wizard is like

a good wizard

thats about it tbh

[raven terrace]

What is Noxus's purpose?

[graceful otter]

: )

[raven terrace]

I heard he was created.

[pliant ruin]

Noxus does Noxus things i think iirc maybe

[raven terrace]

Would Noxus have killed Yharim?

[pliant ruin]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[graceful otter]

wat things do i need to talk about

[pliant ruin]

it definitely COULD kill yharim though

[raven terrace]

IT!?

[pliant ruin]

aurora spirits and cryons

[graceful otter]

they have their own entries and would probably fit under "cryonic stuff" as a little side note

[pliant ruin]

fair

[raven terrace]

When was the last time Draedon and Yharim saw each other?

[pliant ruin]

it's some weird fuckin. Thing i think It pronouns are probably appropriate

[pliant ruin]

As far as we know

[graceful otter]

when draedon applied exotechnology to yharims armour

[pliant ruin]

when Yharim went to get his exo armor

ya

[graceful otter]

which was very recent apparently

[raven terrace]

Who is them duo?

B man and S dude.

[graceful otter]

braelor is silva's champion and statis is the last onyx kinsmen

[raven terrace]

So they decided to jump him.

[urban hedge]

Not so much a good wizard, as a "I'm just gonna do or talk about random things at least vaguely related to magic, also I'm old" wizard

[spring helm]

im pretty sure the wizard has dementia or something

[urban hedge]

Yeah

[noble niche]

So are the vanilla npcs cannon in calamity?

I think they kinda gotta be

[scenic yacht]

they exist but most of them are just kinda normal people

[languid badge]

Tavernkeep is non cannon because crossover

[scenic yacht]

well yeah

[noble niche]

Well are any of Betsy's drops components in weapons?

That'd make old ones army cannon

[scenic yacht]

it wouldnt

but i can check the other thing if the fucking recipe thing would work for me

[scenic yacht]

nope

[noble niche]

Huh, you'd think betsy's wrath at the very least

[golden oasis]

i wonder how powerful permafrost is
ik he'd never fight us but to be called an archmage means you know a thing or two about magic
if forced into a fight, how strong do you guys think he'd be

[crimson finch]

Probably around SCal & Draedon

[raven terrace]

Weak enough for Calamitas to turn his magic against him, strong enough to be a respected guy across the land of Terraria.

Wait. Permafrost is the Archmage dude right?

[golden oasis]

yes

[crimson finch]

Si

[golden oasis]

he appears after you kill cryogen

[raven terrace]

Okay. Ye.

My thingy does not change.

The closest thing we got to a power scaling is the beast he turned into that went wild.

[golden oasis]

used to be some advisor to yharim in the lroe, he trained calamitas iirc till he left and yharim eventually ordered calamitas to kill him
calamitas didnt want to so she sealed him into cryogen instead

[raven terrace]

I think he's above the mechs.
At the very most, Calamitas Clone level.

[golden oasis]

would be cool to imagine a fight between them

something adept in fire vs something adept in ice

[raven terrace]

He'd prolly lose for dramatic purposes.

[golden oasis]

he is an old prune (unless hes one of those folks who extended his lifespan with magic, if those exist in calamity

maybe he was stronger in his prime

[raven terrace]

In stories, people are usually portrayed as ungodly freaks of nature in their primes opposed to their present selves.

[swift ferry]

supreme archmage permafrost would be a fun fight

[golden oasis]

maybe as just a duel to train us or smt

[raven terrace]

I mean, even in his Prime I don't think he was still at SCal's current level.
I do think he's far more skilled tho.

[earnest flare]

you know speaking of duels for the sake of training am i the only one who thinks scal shouldnt kill you on refights

[golden oasis]

well that magic seems rather hard to control with how often it explodes

[raven terrace]

I like to think of the first fight between you and her as SCal trying to kill you and your just tryna get her to stop by smacking some sense into her.

Later fights are simply spars.

Where she accidentally kills you if you lose-

[golden oasis]

maybe it's like toriel undertale
not TRYING to kill you, but has an oh shit moment if you die anyways

(in refights i mean

(first time she wants your head on a platter

[swift ferry]

calamitas doing this expression

[raven terrace]

"Ow! Why'd you kill me!?"
"I'm so sorry! I...wait...how are you alive?"
"What, you thought I'd stay dead?"

[golden oasis]

ik terrarian respawning isnt canon but it's funny to imagine how the characters would react if it was

draedon's like "oh cool you're still here, let's try this again"

[raven terrace]

Devourer would be happy he's found the infinite food glitch

[golden oasis]

i still have an impossible time reading yharim's thoughts on the player
does he WANT us to kill him so this long mess can finally end or does he just see us as another thing in his way

[raven terrace]

He seems to be telling us his thoughts on things on our journey.

Maybe he wants to see us rise and wants us both to do battle.

[golden oasis]

wonder if he'd say something like "given enough time, you might rise to slaying xeroc himself"
buddy the devs said we literally cannot kill him so keep dreaming

[noble niche]

I think it'd be funny if xeroc just like becomes a town npc after beating him

[golden oasis]

i made a joke headcanon that he's just posing as some weird old guy living in the middle of nowhere

[raven terrace]

"Your a little tough. I think I'll hang around."

Says Xeroc watching you blow up the strongest beings in existence.

[noble niche]

He just sells you fucking decoration blocks and two shit weapons

[golden oasis]

well it's not like you'd NEED op weapons
you already won

i find it hilarious that bestiary says that jared would try to kill xeroc if he ever came to the abyss to get the terminus back

and immediately get obliterated by him

[pliant ruin]

Tbh i dun think perma and cal actually fought

[golden oasis]

i dont think anything says they actually fought

maybe he just stood there expecting her to finish this

[barren sonnet]

i can imagine permafrost simply standing there with a bittersweet expression on his face

[golden oasis]

well, as crazy as it was, calamitas plan worked

so he lived on

i like to house them next to eachother with the headcanon that they made up and started vibing again

[noble niche]

He's the guy living in the cabin in one of the forest backgrounds

Confirmed

[golden oasis]

he's been there the whole time

and we had no clue

[golden oasis]

embed fail

[noble niche]

Yes

Undoubtedly

[golden oasis]

he has his own subworld literally just called "the background"

[noble niche]

Yoooooo

But when I was like 5 I lost my shit when I saw the house background

Thought there was some wacky Easter egg that would let me get inside

[barren sonnet]

that's obviously the hospital that all the bosses go so that you can refight them

[golden oasis]

is fovos prime the same as cthulhu mythos? they seem described similar as cosmic horrors that terrorized everything

[barren sonnet]

fovos is not nearly as powerful as cthulhu

although there are similarities, as they are somewhat comparable as "crazy space horrors"

[noble niche]

What's fovos?

[golden oasis]

moon lrod in the past

he sparked everything in calamity

cause he injrued the king of dragons

allowing xeroc to take his soul

[earnest flare]

he was the catalyst fr

[barren sonnet]

pretty much sums it up

[golden oasis]

and you all know what happens afterwards

they couldnt kill fovos so they locked him on the moon

he deteriorated over time

and by the present, he's weak enough for terrarian to solo

[earnest flare]

(according to the most recent dev statement on his power, the current moon lord is at about 30% of his former power)

[raven terrace]

I mean, i'm pretty sure Endgame endgame Terrarian can beat Fovos. Just narrowly tho.

[golden oasis]

so, that means a moonlord with about 3.5 times more power (along with not missing his legs) is a rough estimate to fovos parhaps

[noble niche]

So peak fovos was like nighttime prov

Nope

[earnest flare]

once again, dev statements

yeah fovos was about a third as strong as xeroc and that motherfucker annihilates everyone

[golden oasis]

isnt fovos considered more powerful than yharim according to that power scale thing the devs made?

[noble niche]

Just read more things

[raven terrace]

Way stronger.

I think he's stronger than Noxus.

Generally anyway

[earnest flare]

its directly stated that jared (who is around yharim level) is far, far weaker than xeroc

[noble niche]

Can you send that?

[golden oasis]

yeah

the dragons and other things of that age BARELY escaped with their liveS

and then xeroc did his trolling

[golden oasis]

yeah gimmie a moment

[earnest flare]

fovos is 2nd most powerful being in the verse

[earnest flare]

ok you know what maybe if the world soul was sentient fovos would be bumped to third

[noble niche]

:D

[earnest flare]

used as a source again lets go

[golden oasis]

is that a bad thing?

[earnest flare]

no lmao i made that thing

[golden oasis]

oh cool

[raven terrace]

I think Terrarian at their best in Calamity scales as the 2nd strongest being in history.

[earnest flare]

if i thought it was bad i would remake it

[golden oasis]

well i'd say it makes sense considering what we'rer told of each

[earnest flare]

noxus' destructive power has exclusively dev statements to go off of...

[noble niche]

Alright now who's zeratros?!? How is there this much lore?!?!

[earnest flare]

king of the dragons, xeroc absorbed him

also the strongest dragon

[raven terrace]

Dude got b*tched by Fovos.

[earnest flare]

i headcanon him to be the one who tore off fovos' legs

[golden oasis]

the king of the dragons, the dragon of primordial light

[earnest flare]

cal lore is good, surprising

[golden oasis]

he's looooooooooooooooong dead so dont expect a fight from him

[noble niche]

Torch god is strongest got, he can weild the primordial light ez

[earnest flare]

do i tell him

[golden oasis]

you guys think that by the end of calamity the terrarian will be 3rdish in the verse?

(xeroc and fovos being first and second

[earnest flare]

yeah i think terrarian will be 3rd

[golden oasis]

ig it dependso n how they handle noxus

[raven terrace]

I think he will be 2nd.

Terrarian will at the very least reach Fovos's level.

[earnest flare]

like i guess the terrarian stands a chance against xeroc but using purely anecdotal evidence i can basically prove that xeroc will go very easy on you

[noble niche]

Unless fabsol themself descends from the heavens and personally tells me "u am wrong" torch god is cannon

This logic is flawed but funny torch weee

[earnest flare]

...

man im sorry

[raven terrace]

TECHNICALLY

[golden oasis]

i've only been told we just can't kill him

maybe we can still kick xeroc's ass enough for him to go "damn you tough":

[raven terrace]

Nothing says Torch God isn't the strongest.

[earnest flare]

theres one thing that will

de-canonization

[earnest flare]

xeroc is so far above noxus it would be a triple greater than symbol on the faq power chart if fovos wasnt in the middle

[golden oasis]

torch god is the god of light (not primordial light, just light in general)
someone who hates mining in the dark killed the light dragon and became one with the torches

until someoen says otherwise, that's the lore

[noble niche]

YES

[earnest flare]

considering the terrarian is jumping straight from noxus to xeroc, yeah the terrarian has no chance if xeroc wants to do shit

[noble niche]

just some annoyed miner pickaxed a fucking dragon to death

Just so their torches would last longer

[earnest flare]

theres also the fact that the terrarian seems to generally be on good terms with xeroc and yeah im 90% sure he'll go easy on you

[golden oasis]

yharim couldnt kill torch god cause torch god isn't a physical being

[noble niche]

I love the pusheen is trying to do important lore things and we're just fawning over the best God of all

[golden oasis]

everywhere there is a torch, he's there

[earnest flare]

torch god is explicitly non-canon stop having fun

[raven terrace]

There's only like 5 genuine gods remaining by the time we arrive.

[golden oasis]

https://tenor.com/view/nuh-uh-beocord-no-lol-gif-24435520

[golden oasis]

and we kill one of them!

[noble niche]

Who would win: 1 zillion torches, or one stupid virgin named xeroc

Answer seems obvious to me

[earnest flare]

you kill 3, actually

[golden oasis]

ik slime god and providence

whose the other

[earnest flare]

ravager

[golden oasis]

really?

neat

[noble niche]

Cough cough hive mind and perforators cough cough

[raven terrace]

Is he actually a virgin tho?

[golden oasis]

those are jsut weirdos spawned by the remains of gods arent they

we mean genuine gods who have an auric soul in em

[raven terrace]

They aren't true gods.
Their just monsters formed from the remnants of the dead gods. They only have a fraction of the strength that once was.

[noble niche]

Ah, I see

My b

[raven terrace]

We mean gods like SG and Providence.

[golden oasis]

isn't ravager a mindless monster thing though? is it possible to lose yourself to that kind of power and go insane?

what is he even the god of

blood?

[earnest flare]

no

sacrifices

[golden oasis]

ah

i wonder if that means he'd be able to grow in power through those

eventualyl becoming an absolute menace

[earnest flare]

i mean if i were to take a guess on how he was revived-

[golden oasis]

(i havent played calamity in a while so i havent read his lore item, im just spitballing

(he's an optional boss anyways iirc

but if ravager is a god, iirc slime god and prov kept running away from yharim when he tried to kill them, what's rav's excuse

[raven terrace]

Put shortly, Warlocks and stuff created him due to all the bad sh*t going down back then.

The second he was brought to life, he killed them all and went on a mindless rampage.

In Yharim's words...I forgot. Something about making a god doesn't turn out well.

[golden oasis]

an artificial god

neat

[earnest flare]

❌

yharim completely and utterly lies in the ravager lore item

[golden oasis]

oh god i got ptsd from the very loud incorrect buzzer meme

[raven terrace]

How was it created?

And why is it batsh*t insane?

[earnest flare]

ravager is a real god

[golden oasis]

ima check bestiary

bestiary doesnt lie

[earnest flare]

necromancy does that shit to you in calamity man

[woeful patio]

Real

[golden oasis]

so ravager is a dead god
soem necromancers brought him back
and now he's a mindless monster

wonder what he was like when he was alive

prolly just another one who didn't get sugarcoated by yharim

[rotund shore]

all we really know is that they were likely strong as shit, judging by how ravager is canonically post provi in strength

[golden oasis]

what what

[rotund shore]

and god of sacrifices was probably WAY stronger before dying the first time

[earnest flare]

umm yeah ravager is getting the treatment

thats right

the rework retier resprite

[noble niche]

Is astrum dias a god?

[rotund shore]

ravager is being moved to a post provi boss, so canonically thats its strength

[golden oasis]

yes and no

[woeful patio]

Ravager getting rework Soon™

[earnest flare]

worshipped as one but just isnt one

[golden oasis]

he doesn have an auiric soul but he's revered as one

[raven terrace]

Ravager vs B*tch Worm.

[golden oasis]

damn i gotta tell my friend this
we're doing a calamity themed roleplay, this would be a lot more interesting than what ravager is currently

[earnest flare]

so yeah ravager is really strong

[rotund shore]

I wish god of sacrifices had a name that isnt ravager, since my current headcanon is that ravager is a name the terrarian came up with

and ravager is also kind of an underwhelming name

[earnest flare]

the terrarian is horrible at naming things yes

[golden oasis]

i dont think it's said that he was literally called ravager in the past

[earnest flare]

its also quite suggestive

[golden oasis]

maybe just a term people who saw it agreed uponm

[rotund shore]

woah this thing is ravaging shit I should call it ravager

[rotund shore]

ravager? I hardly know er'!

[golden oasis]

post prov ravager
i like the soun of that, i cant wait for this glow up

[jaunty wraith]

Terrarian will name things if it's already had the title

I.E eater of worlds of devourer of gods

[earnest flare]

yeah ravager is gonna become based

[raven terrace]

I dunno about you, but the Ravager can ravage me anytime-

[jaunty wraith]

bonk

[rotund shore]

I love how all necromancy we see is kind of incredibly fucked up

[rotund shore]

ravager, the sepulcher, scals brothers, probably some others

[jaunty wraith]

What's this list of?

[rotund shore]

fucked up creatures revived via necromancy

[earnest flare]

necromancy is the one aspect of cal lore i will always praise writing-wise

[scenic olive]

Necromagic

[jaunty wraith]

Wouldn't anything blood moon related technically be necromancy?

[scenic olive]

Why

[earnest flare]

most fiction will just say "necromancy is taboo/illegal dont do it" but cal just decides to take away all sentient thought

[raven terrace]

Necromancy is forcibly bringing something to life. Even the best magic users at the art can't pull it off perfectly. Calamitas can assumedly narrowly prevent the Sepulcher from just attacking her.
Her brothers she can just make fight you whereas they just merk you on sight when you summon em.

[jaunty wraith]

Because it's a cosmological event that revives the dead as horrible creatures

[rotund shore]

are all zombies in terraria lore due to people practicing forbidden magic? or was it like a handful of zombies at first who spread and infected more

[earnest flare]

zombies have no lore

[rotund shore]

since there are just plentiful normal zombies around

im definitely overthinking it since zombies dont matter

[jaunty wraith]

What about the skeletons?

Or skeletron?

[earnest flare]

no lore

[raven terrace]

Skeletons really love being the bone jigglers.

[earnest flare]

just a curse

[raven terrace]

Skeletron is THE jiggler of bones.

[rotund shore]

skeletron has actual lore of being a curse

[woeful patio]

Skeletron is a curse from the cultist

[jaunty wraith]

Didn't they say I'm FAQ they plan to add lore towards vanilla NPCs sometimes in the future?

[raven terrace]

I wish Skeletron was an oversized Skeleton instead of just a head and 2 arms.

[earnest flare]

no

or at least i dont remember adding that

[rotund shore]

average early game castlevania boss

[woeful patio]

I felt bad for the old man

[earnest flare]

well in cal he has 4 arms

[earnest flare]

yeah thats the vanilla bestiary

not vanilla npc dialogue

[jaunty wraith]

The NPCs entry will be though

[woeful patio]

Bro trespassing and got cursed for the rest of his life

[earnest flare]

sure???

[jaunty wraith]

Didn't say any exceptions

(Except maybe santa claus)

[raven terrace]

Lunatic Cultist was prolly just doing his thing and saw the old man. Was about to kill him but then suddenly went
"Stonks."
Made his ass guard the dungeon.

[jaunty wraith]

Lunatic cultist is a calamity bestiary entry I need

We know like nothing except thier a cult leader and cursed skeletron

[rotund shore]

yeah considering its one of the vanilla bosses thats pretty relevant in cal lore, would be nice

since only lore they get is prelude mentioning them

[raven terrace]

The dungeon itself is really f*cked up.
The amalgamation of hundreds of tortured beings turning into a formless monster of incredible power. (In lore. In game sucks ass.)
Has a monstrous Skeleton beast guardian guarding the dungeon to begin with.
Is filled with monsters of varying sorts.
Is the place where Lunashit Cultist and his Goons do their magic tricks.
And Mechanic is stuck inside.

[earnest flare]

one of 2 vanilla bosses that are relevant to the overall lore lmao

moon lord is obviously massive though

[rotund shore]

you can argue mechs but those are more of a collective

[earnest flare]

mechs are not relevant to the overall lore

its literally just "soul power exists"

[jaunty wraith]

Id beg to differ, they we're a big part of draedons backstory

[rotund shore]

but yeah moonlord is by far the most relevant, considering its like the second or third stronger being to ever exist (to our knowledge)

[earnest flare]

nah not really

[raven terrace]

Weren't they war machines used on the field that Draedon despised but Yharim liked?

[woeful patio]

Also where the Portal to the distortion world reside

[earnest flare]

yeah?
how is that relevant to the overall lore

im not talking small picture im talking big

[raven terrace]

I'd argue the mechs have at least far more than any of the other non relavent bosses.

[earnest flare]

yeah thats right im talking big

[raven terrace]

Plus Draedon decided to use them as the base for his magnum opuses.

[rotund shore]

moonlord is the definition of BIG lore character

[earnest flare]

yeah moon lord is quite big

[rotund shore]

did the dragons destroy MLs legs or did it never have them

[earnest flare]

that is true but at the same time theres so many differences its crazy

[woeful patio]

YOU KNOW WHAT ELSE IS BIG

[earnest flare]

the dragons did indeed tear off his legs

[autumn mango]

I mostly just see the mechs as prototypes for yhe exo mechs

[jaunty wraith]

And yet we don't really know much about him other than its name is fovos (Which I don't believe was even stated anywhere in game)

Why did he even come to terraria? Did he want to conquer it or did he feel like doing a modest amount of trolling and kill everything

[earnest flare]

calling the mechs prototypes for exos is an insult to engineering and technology

[rotund shore]

moonlord is just very alien to use, in multiple ways

[earnest flare]

gee its almost as if he isnt from terraria

[raven terrace]

-Prototypes for Draedon's machines in a sort of weird way
-Proved that Soul Power can manifest as proper sentience in machines.
-Were powerful war machines that Draedon didn't like but Yharim liked.

My deduction? Far more relevance than monsters like King Slime. Not important in the grand scheme.

[rotund shore]

im kind of baffled the lunar pillars dont have lore in cal

[raven terrace]

Me too.

[earnest flare]

the pillars have lore you just arent willing to theorize enough to find out

[raven terrace]

it's not like we can confirm any of these theories-

[rotund shore]

I know most events dont but compare martian madness to lunar pillars in terms of relevance, one clearly deserves lore more then the other

[raven terrace]

We've already done it like 2 days ago.

[earnest flare]

you'd be surprised how much evidence can do-

[jaunty wraith]

Did the moonlord use the pillars to help his fight with the dragons? or did he do it himself? does he even have any connections to the pillars in calamity

[earnest flare]

theorizing is such a good thing that nobody likes to do...

[raven terrace]

I think the pillars are seals for Moon Lord!

They create monsters using the cosmic energy they are made of to defend themselves from threats since Lunashit Cultist couldn't do sh*t.

[earnest flare]

piecing together the entirety of noxus from like 5-6 lines is so fun

[rotund shore]

lets look at what we have about the pillars
they appear after killing the cultist, we can presume the spell the cultists were doing was preventing the pillars
destroying the pillars summon fovos

[woeful patio]

My theory is that What if calamity is actually freakity and we all get freaky to the boss

[earnest flare]

also take into account the chat messages that happen once the pillars die-

[rotund shore]

My interpretation of pillars in vanilla lore was that they were a last line of defense to prevent moonlord from being summoned

[earnest flare]

like god this community hates theorizing

[rotund shore]

And them dying does break some metaphorical if not semi-literal chains on fovos, considering thats, y'know, how we summon it

[jaunty wraith]

The cultist would of if the terrarian didnt ruin it..

Why does the terrarian even fight the Lunatic Cultist?

[rotund shore]

judging by sea king dialogue, the terrarian does it to get yharims attention by growing stronger

or atleast, thats the reason sea king tells us to do it

[earnest flare]

the terrarian's motivation is up to you!

[woeful patio]

All the terrarian do is up to you

[earnest flare]

there is no terrarian lore

[woeful patio]

For me he did it cus he was bored

[jaunty wraith]

I don't rememebr naming the mechanical bosses

[raven terrace]

I've got a theory.

What if Yharim likes cheese?
Cuz yes.

[rotund shore]

and I have to imagine sea king wants yharim like mega super dead

[earnest flare]

well too bad you did

[rotund shore]

naming the mechs (and seemingly storm weaver) is the main set in stone lore for the terrarian

[woeful patio]

Nah you have dementia mate

[earnest flare]

weaver is questionable

[woeful patio]

Wake up

[jaunty wraith]

Then again I think we're confusing character lore with character personality and growth

[rotund shore]

yeah it might just be what most people call it, even if draedon doesnt

[woeful patio]

We miss you honey

Wake up

[raven terrace]

A running theme is that Terrarian seems to suck at naming things.
Powerful beast of incredible power almost mauls them to death.
"Damn! That was close! I'll name that thing Destroyer. It almost destroyed me."

[rotund shore]

but mechs being named by the terrarian is funny lore, I like it

I assume terrarian also named skeletron, and probably king and queen slime

queen slimes real name is probably hallowlan paladin or smth

[jaunty wraith]

"Two floating eyes of destruction capable of analyzing and scouting out any foe"

There two beings, lets call it the twins

[woeful patio]

Spazmatism🗿

[scenic olive]

Spazmaballs

[raven terrace]

Yum

[jaunty wraith]

Retiniazer because... he has a retna

genoius

[raven terrace]

Genius

"Woah! That thing's Skeletron but WAY stronger! Skeletron Prime!"

[jaunty wraith]

Skeletron prime... looks like skeletron... but.. primier!

[rotund shore]

"Holy fucking fuckshit that slime has a crown lets call it king slime"

[jaunty wraith]

Thats especialy funny since the terrarian probably gave the name of skeletron despite not being any form mechanical

[rotund shore]

and the sequel
"Holy fucking fuckshit that slime has a crown and is PINK lets call it queen slime"

and its funny since queen slime definitely DOES have a real name

[earnest flare]

no actually

[jaunty wraith]

'Holy shit that's a giant plant... plantera

[earnest flare]

actually i can defend the terrarian on this one

they were referring to her by her chosen gender

yeah slime god(dess) is transfem

[rotund shore]

actually yeah trans affirming terrarian

mad respect to the terrarian for that name choice

[jaunty wraith]

Isnt the slime queen in calamity just the slime god using the new hallow

[rotund shore]

happy pride month

[tall delta]

yeah

he made a palladin and got stuck in it

[raven terrace]

"That's a big worm! Eater of Worlds sounds badfuckingass! I gotta tell someone it!"

[rotund shore]

and then transitioned I guess

[earnest flare]

he went to the estrogen biome and transitioned

[rotund shore]

"Hey guide I just killed the eater of worlds!!!!!"
"Yeah sure buddy whatever"

[jaunty wraith]

that name actually always existed according to yharim

[earnest flare]

umm anyways yharim is transphobic

(this is canon)

[woeful patio]

Wait I thought Eater Of Worlds was a nicknamed by many people

[raven terrace]

Really?

That's dumb-

[rotund shore]

holy shit does he misgender slime goddess in queen slime lore item

only gives me more motive to kill him

[jaunty wraith]

No! yharim is a very misunderstood hero whose actions were not his fault (I only read his biased lore items)

[woeful patio]

Even Yharim said it's stupid

[earnest flare]

powerscalers when eater of worlds

[spring helm]

me when i don't read between the lines and take a tyrant's words at face value

[raven terrace]

"It eats worlds! So therefore, it scales above Xeroc and shitfucks the verse!"

[rotund shore]

if thats the logic then I could argue yharim gets a pass since he might not even realize that the whole situation meant slime god transitioned, not to mention it literally just happened

talking about transfem slime god as serious lore is hilarious

[earnest flare]

yharim knew it got stuck inside its transitioned body

he knows

[jaunty wraith]

Pretty sure noxus is a threat to reality itself

[raven terrace]

People just seem to put Xeroc at country-

[earnest flare]

old lore :D

[spring helm]

because he is

[raven terrace]

I personally think of Xeroc as barely capable of destroying a planet.

[rotund shore]

you know ive seen jokes about transmasc yharim and honestly I find it a funny idea

xeroc could destroy a planet after like a couple years of effort

[earnest flare]

one of 2 cal's trans reps

being a genocidal maniac

yeah no

[tall delta]

yeah he cant destroy a planet

[earnest flare]

i dont support transmasc yharim on that basis

[rotund shore]

I think xeroc CAN destroy a planet, would just take a very very long time

[spring helm]

anyone can be a genocidal maniac

equality and all that

[woeful patio]

Xeroc can create draedron exomech from primordial light, by that logic he can create thousand of mech and destroy the world

[rotund shore]

yeah fair enough

[earnest flare]

yeah but portraying half the trans rep and only transmasc rep as genocidal...

yeah it just doesnt sit right

[spring helm]

that just means we need more trans rep

[raven terrace]

Yharim deserves to die anyway

[spring helm]

he'll kick the bucket in like 10 years you don't gotta do anything

[woeful patio]

Calamity afk lore

[earnest flare]

you know i wish i could get slime goddess' name because i dont want to keep deadnaming her

[spring helm]

well

slime god doesn't get named either

[earnest flare]

god is a male term though

[rotund shore]

you know, yharim, draedon, and calamitas have all done some truly heinous shit, but draedon, to some degree, does not understand what hes doing is wrong, just in the pursuit of knowledge, and calamitas actually feels remorse for what shes done
Yharim is a bitchass motherfucker who employed a child soldier and has slaughtered a near countless amount of people

yharim is simply just the worst

[rotund shore]

You know funny how both provi and sg are goddesses who were too sneaky to be killed by yharim

[earnest flare]

provi is lesbian and sg is trans so
yharim's true enemy is the liberals

[sly bloom]

Who hasn't honestly

[earnest flare]

not to mention nb xeroc

and likely agender ravager

[spring helm]

provdence is trans?

[earnest flare]

prov is lesbian

[raven terrace]

Draedon: Released the plague and doesn't care about any death that comes from what he does even if the plague was accidental.
Calamitas: incinerated the Ocean and bullied a bunch of tough people on Yharim's orders. Accidentally caused the suffering of much of Terraria.

Yharim: If we went into him, we'd be here a bit.

[rotund shore]

lesbian provi? since when

[spring helm]

right my mistake

providence is lesbian?

[earnest flare]

since always man

[rotund shore]

I saw her more as aroace "I hate everyone and everything" coded

[jaunty wraith]

Calamitas is Aroace

[raven terrace]

I didn't know she had a preference at all. She's a kill on sight gal.

[spring helm]

yeah i thought she was "everything must burn"-sexual

[rotund shore]

chat we should make up a name to refer to god of sacrifices to, I dont wanna say ravager that name is dumb

[raven terrace]

Maybe they were lesbian BEFORE they absorbed an Auric Soul.

THEN they became "Everythingmustburnsexual".

[spring helm]

jonathan

[earnest flare]

hey wait isnt everythingmustburnsexual literally just being aroace