lore-discussion

[pliant ruin]

while i don't think it's entirely unlikely they'd go that route

i also think chances are ravager might just have been a shitty god.

even then, i'd love if they did end up making him just. a good guy

would be such a fun subversion with a genuinely nice narrative behind it too

[crimson finch]

I like Slime God’s little guy design

[strong notch]

Ngl would be funny to befriend god instead of killing them

[crimson finch]

The little eye makes him cute

[strong notch]

And seeing Yharim reaction

[pliant ruin]

slime god is probs the only possible candidate for that

but uh

yeah

[crimson finch]

Oh bettt

[pliant ruin]

he's dead

[crimson finch]

Not really

[pliant ruin]

no he's dead dead

[crimson finch]

Mmmm no

[pliant ruin]

the alternatives would be

providence (not happening she's as evil as it can get)

[crimson finch]

Ravager is just

[pliant ruin]

ravager (not happening he probably is as intelligent as a log)

[crimson finch]

Too Bloodlusted and mindless

[pliant ruin]

silva (she's kind of dead right now. maybe if we wait like 10 years)

[strong notch]

Technically why not befriend Xeroc?

[pliant ruin]

well actually yeah

[crimson finch]

Pet Deus would be so

[pliant ruin]

we could do it w xeroc

he actually seems kind of chill

but

yharim would already be dead by the time we actually meet him

[real silo]

xeroc gives me chill grandpa vibes

[crimson finch]

Pet space worm ❤️

[pliant ruin]

anyways

god of sacrifices benevolent deity....

i beg

[crimson finch]

Deusssss

[real silo]

I beg

[pliant ruin]

the only actual Good Gods we 100% know of are Otonilou and Tyrian

[crimson finch]

& slime

[strong notch]

Would silva also count?

[pliant ruin]

Silva is a possible candidate, Slime God's morality is a bit debatable rn, but the only ones

[crimson finch]

[pliant ruin]

that are actually

confirmed

to be 100% good guy

[real silo]

It would be so cool if the god of sacrifices makes sacrifices for the greater good

[pliant ruin]

are those two

[pliant ruin]

my idea isn't really that

it's more of

[crimson finch]

I mean besides Kill Murdering the dragon, he does try to balance out the world

[strong notch]

If god of sacrifices sacrificed himself

[crimson finch]

He’s so real for that

[pliant ruin]

taking the word sacrifice to its actual meaning rather than

[crimson finch]

Like sacrifice for good or sacrifice for selfishness

[pliant ruin]

the bastardized depiction of sacrifice that involves always killing stuff

[crimson finch]

If it was good

[pliant ruin]

instead of ''sacrifice these 5 children for me lol idk" more of

[real silo]

I mean yeah I was thinking of giving up something in exchange for another

[crimson finch]

Id like to be buddies with Pre-Ravager God of Sacrifice

[pliant ruin]

"hey man i think those ppl are kind of weighting you down. i think you should stop interacting with them. (as in sacrificng your friendship with them)"

like

the sort of

[real silo]

But it's also an extension of death so I imagine there's probably a bit of violence involved

[pliant ruin]

stereotypical monk ideals

[crimson finch]

So he’d be a great adviser

Awesome sauce

[pliant ruin]

where you sacrifice something in your life to achieve inner peace

and only keep the things that truly matter alongside you

like

whatif ravager was just

divine therapist.

ppl would go up to him

talk abt their problems

and he'd tell them waht they need to do and what or who they need to cut off from their life to achieve peace

wouldn'tr that be cool as hell

[crimson finch]

Mmm

Peak

[real silo]

And yharim sees it as heresy because he thinks people should just man up

[strong notch]

Ironic how slime god being a god of gluttony is actually the most balanced one

[crimson finch]

Si

I love slime god :)))

[pliant ruin]

well he's a god of

slime

[crimson finch]

My homie

[pliant ruin]

but the dragon was gluttony ye

[crimson finch]

My big dog

[real silo]

I personally see sac god as neutral

[pliant ruin]

i think sac god realistiaclly will probably just be evil

but i'd love for him to be a good guy so much

[real silo]

You want to sacrifice for evil? for good? Sure buddy go ahead

[crimson finch]

The choice is yours

[strong notch]

Just be like providence and sacrifice everything for purity

[crimson finch]

No.

[real silo]

It'd be funny if he's just a Dude living in a shack handing out shady deals

In exchange for idk spare change and some snacks

[buoyant inlet]

I don't think so

[crimson finch]

Pst, I’ll give you the greatest life advice you’ll ever receive for the cost of a happy meal

[pliant ruin]

otonilou - good (dead)
tyrian - good (dead)
silva - ???? maybe good??? maybe neutral??? maybe bad??? probably not but maybe??
slime god - some variation of neutral but we dont have much on it yet
providence - evil as hell

[strong notch]

For the cost of delicious meat

[crimson finch]

Honestly

Taking ravager to the butcher shop would be funny

[pliant ruin]

• absorbed the soul of the god of death
• has a extremely gorey, bloody and violent aesthethic

as much as i'd like for it to not be the case, the implications for him just beng a evil good are there

though i do believe devs could absolutely justify those traits while also not making him evil, i also am inclined to believe he's probably gonna be evil

[strong notch]

There were also gods of both world evils which were evil

[pliant ruin]

those were alot of gods btw

[strong notch]

But what is a hallow made out of then?

[pliant ruin]

good gods

alot of em

[real silo]

The fact that rav didn't become a part of the world evils is kinda funky

[buoyant inlet]

It's aesthetic is bloody and gorey only because it became ravager

[real silo]

Either he immediately got revived or his essence got preserved somehow

[buoyant inlet]

A bloodthirsty monster

[pliant ruin]

we're not really sure about that though

[crimson finch]

If there was a dragon of love that got absorbed by a god that became a twisted Cupid that seduced to get power, or just ruin relationships and threw life into chaos, that would be cool of Yharim to kill them.

[pliant ruin]

it's possible but also it's the soul of the dragon of death, it's pretty plausible for me that it just had a general boney aesthethic prior

[crimson finch]

Bad to the bone ass dragon

[pliant ruin]

i don't doubt he won't just be Evil but i also think it's like, a 55% vs 45% chance

[pliant ruin]

yharim already killed alot of bad gods

points

points (corruption) (crimson)

[crimson finch]

But good ones too

[pliant ruin]

though it was less because they were bad nad more so he just wanted to kill all of them

and ofc killing the ones that are obviously bad first is good propaganda material

[real silo]

Chiss what do you think the blood god could be

[strong notch]

Who is more evil honestly? Yharon because he manipulated Yharim or Yharim because he killed?

[pliant ruin]

there's a blood god?

[pliant ruin]

Debatable

Buttttt

i think Yharim

[real silo]

Chalice of the blood god

[pliant ruin]

Yharon at the very least had a more personal and understadable motivation

he still was wrong and evil and fucked up and etc for it

[real silo]

I know items aren't always canon but

[pliant ruin]

but at the VERY LEAST

[random mulch]

yharim
no good person would turn to genocide that fast

[pliant ruin]

you could kind of get why his mentality was like that

Yharim turned to genocide immediately turned to genocide after Yharon told him Gods Bad

like yeah, he had a. bad experience with htem

but also

[spring helm]

Doesn’t seem like Chalice of the Blood God is a donor item so it’s probably canon

[pliant ruin]

yharon had to see his entire species get killed, yharim didn't

so

they're both terrible

but i think yharim is terrible-r

at the end of the day though they're basically right next to eachother in terribleness and rly jsut work of as a dynamic

[solar wharf]

are the baby devourer gods canon?

and if so

[pliant ruin]

baby

[solar wharf]

is DoG a father???

[strong notch]

What

[pliant ruin]

baby devourers/??

[crimson finch]

In his fight

[solar wharf]

the one that

he summons

in his fight

[strong notch]

Storm weaver?

[pliant ruin]

oh wait

[crimson finch]

No

[solar wharf]

no

[pliant ruin]

the cosmic guardians?

[solar wharf]

ye

[pliant ruin]

well those arent really specified to be

[strong notch]

Those are his servants

[pliant ruin]

babies

or even related in any way

[solar wharf]

oh

[pliant ruin]

they might just be like

things he Creates

or just, minions

[crimson finch]

He has like Desert uhhh

Idk how to spell it

[strong notch]

Nuisance

[crimson finch]

Yeah

But Devourer ones

[solar wharf]

arent desert nuisances related to scourge tho

[real silo]

You know how draedate talks about seemingly sentient beings that have no neurons

[pliant ruin]

ye

[crimson finch]

Yeah

[pliant ruin]

they're younger members of the same species

[real silo]

Maybe the cosmic guardians are like that

[solar wharf]

while cosmic guardians arent?

[pliant ruin]

i mean

[strong notch]

It seems like all of them including the devourer are connected to distortion hive mind

[pliant ruin]

nuisances are specifically mentioned to be younger individuals

cosmic guardians are just

[crimson finch]

Hive Mind!!!!

[pliant ruin]

lol space worm lol

[strong notch]

With devourer having just a bit more of free will

[pliant ruin]

other than both being Worm Minions summoned by a Worm Boss they don't have that many similarities

i think they're probably just some random lackeys from the distortion that he sends to fight us or something

[crimson finch]

Mmm

[pliant ruin]

DoG seems to be pretty high in position on whatver is going on in the distortion so i imagine he acn just

go my worms

[solar wharf]

they are related to DoG, its just that we dont really know if they actually are blood related

[crimson finch]

DoG has worms?!,!?!

[pliant ruin]

yeah this dosent rly scream blood relation to me

[crimson finch]

Ewwwww

[pliant ruin]

i think theyre just

henchmen

minions

goons

lackeys even

[solar wharf]

LMAO

can you tame a cosmic guardian

[crimson finch]

i miss when goon meant lackies

[pliant ruin]

cosmic guardians going up to the devourer

[real silo]

Same species but not same lineage

[pliant ruin]

ay boss whats da plan

[strong notch]

What if i tell you DoG has so many worms he became a worm

[real silo]

Or whatever

[crimson finch]

no fucking way

[pliant ruin]

goon used to be my genuine favorite word before the internet started using it in a weird way

like

i'm not kidding

goon was my actually #1 favorite word

[solar wharf]

i mean, are they even younglings or is DoG just special?

what if DoG is actually just hella buffed by noxus

[pliant ruin]

to this day i feel nothing but spite towards whoever popularized the stupid meaning

[crimson finch]

i missed the old definition of goon

[pliant ruin]

this is actually the idea i go with

kind of like

primordial wyrm and silva

but uh

space distortion worm guy

and noxus

[crimson finch]

I appreciate DoG slander

[strong notch]

They probably work similar to ant colony with everyone being siblings

[pliant ruin]

DoG also seems to

[solar wharf]

DoG being the queen?

[strong notch]

With noxus being kinda like "ant queen"

[pliant ruin]

not be a part of the hive mind, atleast to an extent

it still

[solar wharf]

o

[pliant ruin]

def works for noxus

but it has its own seemingly distinct personality and dosen't just mindlessly follow orders

[solar wharf]

maybe noxus gave him a personality just to make it less suspecious?

or maybe less "work"

for him

[pliant ruin]

maybe it was a side effect

idk

[solar wharf]

true

[pliant ruin]

storm weaver dosen'tr seem to be associated with Noxus in any way

so there's also

[solar wharf]

what if he cant control creatures outside distortion

[pliant ruin]

taht to think abt

[strong notch]

Noxus gave him personality so he can trick Yharim into working with him

[solar wharf]

i mean, we gotta ask if storm weaver is even intelligent

what if hes just... a silly serpent

[pliant ruin]

as far as we know

[solar wharf]

hes there to eat

[crimson finch]

Hey

[solar wharf]

thats it

[pliant ruin]

it just seems like he's

feral/animalistic

[crimson finch]

Silly is perfectly fine

[pliant ruin]

but rn we have like barely any lore on like

[crimson finch]

I love Storm weaver

[pliant ruin]

any of the distortion guys

besides ofc

DoG

[solar wharf]

ceaseless void is a very old portal

[pliant ruin]

and Ceaseless to an extent

but signus and storm weaver r just

very unfinished

rn

100%

[solar wharf]

i assume when distortion gets added, we wont "kill" ceaseless, but moreso tame it

by taming it, i mean like

[pliant ruin]

my idea for ceaseless was

[solar wharf]

beating the shit out of it

[pliant ruin]

you don't even

fight it

[strong notch]

Why is portal even aggresive

[pliant ruin]

you know torch god?

yeah

imagine that but instead of torches it's a portal from the fucking evil shadow void dimension that's throwing a insane amount of shit at you and you just have to survive until it calms down and you can actually use it

[solar wharf]

just chucks 20 cosmic guardians at yo

u

[strong notch]

Portal having the protection againts any non distortion beings

[pliant ruin]

it just

dosent feel right

to fight ceaseless

like do you just beat up the portal??? how does that work

i'd much prefer it as sort of a endurance test

a really damn hard one at that

another idea i had was

you can only fight it after.. uh

cultist.

so you can technically

do it

[strong notch]

Imagine if ultimate way of taming ceaseless was using portal gun from Moon lord on it

[solar wharf]

i mean, realistically, i dont see why ceasless would even test us either

[pliant ruin]

before ML

and get distortion stuff

but

it'd make you blow up with how hard it would be and the intended progression would be like, mid post ML

but if you really wanted to and knew what you were doing

[real silo]

Can't wait for when they turn CV into earthmover security system

[solar wharf]

i mean, what if polterghast is "protecting" it instead, (moreso polterghast just happens to be there)

[pliant ruin]

you could get a massive skip to get some crazy gear (tho you'd probably still need some later materials from post ml to make alot of the gear, there'd probably be a good amount of things you could just make then and there that would be strong as hell for that point of the game)

[strong notch]

What if polterghast was sucked into distortion by ceaseless

[pliant ruin]

that idea was talked abt earlier and it does feel a bit overwhelming and kind of mixing two concepts together

it would be kind of cool

but itd also feel kinda

idk

cluttery?

[solar wharf]

to me thats the only way you could make polterghast have any lore revelence beside being a yharim mistake tbh

[pliant ruin]

2 post ml dungeon bosses is weird

but

[solar wharf]

rn i dont really like polterghast

he kinda is just there

or well they

[pliant ruin]

with this theoretical ceaseless

he wouldn't

really

[real silo]

ok hear me out

[pliant ruin]

be a boss anymore

so

[real silo]

Polterghast is a bunch of souls

[pliant ruin]

it just seems like funny worldbuilding to me so i dont really mind

[strong notch]

I wonder how will they rework storm weaver to fit the lore better

[real silo]

And ravager is a soulless corpse

We stuff polterghast into rav

[strong notch]

Like why are we fighting sw

[pliant ruin]

maybe it could have some more influence on the dungeon tiself with some more ghostly enemies post ml since that needs more things besides bosses anyways

[real silo]

And get a weird Thing

[solar wharf]

what if polterghast gets enraged if you fight it in auric

!!

[pliant ruin]

polterghast prime

flesh dungeon

[solar wharf]

DAMN

[real silo]

We'll kill it too fast with auric gear

[strong notch]

It would be interesting if distortion was more like a subworld with some mini quests involving the sentinels and not only an area

[pliant ruin]

distortion will be like

[solar wharf]

ye its funny worldbuilding!!

[pliant ruin]

the nether from minecraft

it'll be

like, a entire new biome

with resources to harvest and enemies and stuff

[real silo]

not one new biome

[solar wharf]

can we please find some draedons drones just destroyed

that would be cool

[real silo]

Multiple maybe

[pliant ruin]

it'll be more htan just one yeah but i imagine like

abyss or sunken sea rework where its

1 really big biome

[real silo]

I mean minecraft nether has like 5 biomes

[pliant ruin]

with a ton of smaller biomes

[strong notch]

The next update will be sunken sea then?

[solar wharf]

yes

we should get more lore about sunek sea then

probably desert scourge and amidias in turn

[strong notch]

More about otonilou

[solar wharf]

those gods too

[strong notch]

Maybe some weapons related to her

[pliant ruin]

surviving illmeran,,,

illmeran wandering trader,,,

[strong notch]

Will Amidas talk also be redone then?

[solar wharf]

cant wait for the distortion and DoG rework

that would be so cool

[strong notch]

And the undersea lab too

[pliant ruin]

i think

they plan to add new dialogue systems for cal npcs

much like how draedon got his fancy dialogue system

but idk exactly how they'll do that or when

[solar wharf]

you just sit with amidias "hey man, i need an explanation?"

"what? WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN?"

[strong notch]

Would be cool if dialogue options were based on your progression

[pliant ruin]

i hope that my

permafrost amidias headcanon turns real

i like it so much its so good

[strong notch]

For example when your recruit Calamitas and you can ask Amidias about her

[solar wharf]

what is it

[pliant ruin]

two old dudes being old dude friends and having old dude bromance together 🤝

[solar wharf]

so true

they gotta be like

best friends man

[pliant ruin]

like

permafrost is a old guy who got fucked up by yharim's shenanigans who seem to have a pacifist ideology

amidias is...

[strong notch]

Now imagine something like forcing amidias and calamitas into dialogue

And watching that

[pliant ruin]

a old guy who got fucked up by yharim's shenanigans who seems to have a pacifist ideology

[pliant ruin]

amidias seems to not hold resentment

but calamitas is uh

she'd be really awkward

[strong notch]

Amidias is a cool guy tbh. They burned his entire kingdom and he was like. Nah no problem

[solar wharf]

i honestly dont like that, because we are talking about the wiping of ur civilization, holding resentment is like the minimum, i dont think hate should be the right word tho

its moreso like "uh, i cant really see you as the same"

[pliant ruin]

amidias knocks the door to calamitas's house
"Hello little one, your father told me it was your birthday in a few days so i decided-"
(calamitas opens the door)
"i'm so sorry i messed up again didn't i i didn't mean it i'm sorry i'm really sorry i hate myself i'm so-
" .....to stop by and give you these homecooked shrimp sufflês."

[strong notch]

Entire calamitas life if awkward tbh

[solar wharf]

LMAO

[strong notch]

You kill, burn everything and have mental issues

And then you simply get accepted by some guy who resembles the one who you hate

[pliant ruin]

honestly

calamity lore is kind of making me want to write a silly slice of life post-yharim fnafiction

LMAO

ive... never wrotten fanfiction before. lol.

[solar wharf]

just comes back with yharims head

"guys i did it"

[pliant ruin]

id prolly need to make a actual character for the terrarian

and like

a name

besides

The Terrarian

[solar wharf]

The Human

or The Earthling

[pliant ruin]

honestly probably atleast partially a self insert moment but not really 1:1

the terrarian IS the player so like might aswell right

[solar wharf]

true

[pliant ruin]

this is my terrariansona her name is Cheeze and she's like the strongest ever and hates the brain of chtulhu and can kill xeroc in 1 second and also is fast

[strong notch]

Why does she hate the brain tho

[solar wharf]

cuz you reep what you sow

idk what that means but my friend said it to me

[pliant ruin]

cuz the brain was really annoying in the mod and was a major roadblock for me and i hate it

[solar wharf]

and i like it now

[pliant ruin]

i dont like him

[crimson finch]

What class

[pliant ruin]

i hate his stupid invisibility clone phase

[pliant ruin]

ranger but it dosen't matter cuz unless i was summoner it would've sucked anyways

bcuz yk

summoner autotargets

[crimson finch]

Kk

[pliant ruin]

[solar wharf]

i usually just use 1 summon which targets him

and then just shoot him that way

[pliant ruin]

i just turned down the difficulty to kill him

[solar wharf]

or just use a seeking weapon, which ranger doesnt have in early game

[pliant ruin]

i couldn't bother actually doing it fairly 😭

[solar wharf]

rogue does

i think mage does? i forgot

[pliant ruin]

only boss fight so far i genuinely disliked

king slime was fine, EoC was fine, crabulon was fine (tho a little underwhelming, DS was actually pretty fun

[strong notch]

Mage does

[pliant ruin]

i hate brain!

[vocal snow]

evil zombie be like

[solar wharf]

do you think the npcs just sit in the sidelines and watch us kick ass

[strong notch]

They sit in their shoeboxes praying for boss not to kill them (it will kill them anyway)

[pliant ruin]

i like to imagine some help us/defend themselves, other get scared and go D: and some just go ''lol thats cool" and watch it while eating popcorn

[vocal snow]

they will pray that terrarian will actually care about them and not fight literal gods at the backyard

[strong notch]

And i will do that anyway because i am too lazy to make arena anywhere else

[vocal snow]

and then people ask in awe: are we evil....?

nah we're fine

[strong notch]

It's their fault they moved in

[vocal snow]

real

[strong notch]

Not mine for fighting bosses next to the housing

If they can teleport into their houses then they may as well teleport out

[vocal snow]

imaging building sweet little house for yourself and the second you finish it it's instantly occupied by random stranger

[strong notch]

Me building base out of exo plating:

[crimson finch]

I made a giant castle out of slime and npcs kept occupying it

Can’t have shit it this game

[strong notch]

For someone who hates houses one tile too small they seem too eager to move into something made out of cacti

[vocal snow]

build using auric ore

[urban hedge]

The solution is simple: put a stinkbug (blocker) in the house

If you don't want to see it, then make a graveyard and make an echo stinkbug blocker

[vocal snow]

huh, never heard of it

the more you know...

[urban hedge]

It's a 1.4.4 feature, requires you to get a stinkbug which spawns on some days.

So, not particularly surprising

[vocal snow]

so it's relatively new thing

makes sense

[crimson finch]

I see fighting the Ravager is more of a mercy kill than an actual kill

[vocal snow]

I see fighting the Ravager like a very convenient source of all kind of essence

iirc they've changed it at recent patches tho?

lemme check

it is still very convenient source of cores and bars, yeah

nice

AND with shimmer it's even better now

damn, I love farming ravager

those cultists really cooked when they made this false god

top notch

[pliant ruin]

lore

[urban hedge]

Ngl iirc Cryonic Bars couldn't be shimmered, and that annoyed me a lot since getting them is sometimes really annoying with how rare the ore can be
I'mma double check that if I can, though

Maybe it was a different ore, though, I'm not sure

[crimson finch]

What does shimmering do?

To bars?

[vocal snow]

idk I was referring to shimmering of flesh geodes to necromantic ones

[buoyant inlet]

Decrafts them

[vocal snow]

shimmer lore, thoughts?

[buoyant inlet]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[urban hedge]

Might not be canon

[buoyant inlet]

Unlikely

[pliant ruin]

shommr

shimmer -> 🧼

[urban hedge]

If it was canon, I suppose characters who've discovered it (I kind of doubt none have) probably would've used it, and where it came from would probably have to be explained

[buoyant inlet]

Honestly making shimmer not canon would be a lame move

[pliant ruin]

shimmer isa reference to uhmmmm gooble so its not canon

[buoyant inlet]

Like making an entire minibiome with cool aesthetic and interesting functionality non canon is so bleh

[urban hedge]

Cause some random particularly peculiar substance that came out of literally nowhere would be boring and obviously probably wouldn't make sense

[buoyant inlet]

I don't think shimmer should have some major lore

It's just a mysterious underground liquid

Maybe there can be myths and legends about it

In universe

[pliant ruin]

world soul thingy

plumg

[buoyant inlet]

Something like "if you dig far below ground, you can find a mysterious shimmering lake"

[crimson finch]

If Ichor is bad god blood, shimmer is good god blood

[buoyant inlet]

"Which can transform matter into its original state, or completely change it"

[urban hedge]

Some random ass water infused with Power from Fovos, maybe, but that feels weird to do just because Luminite turns Unlimited Water Buckets into Shimmer Buckets

[buoyant inlet]

"Rumors say that whoever decides to take a step inside it, they will be completely changed"

And the bit about changing is like metaphorical

So it's unclear if they will be changed physically or mentally

[urban hedge]

Maybe Draedon has seen it and used it to inspire "transmuting" things, I guess

[vocal snow]

haven't devs stated that they will add new npc shimmering features?

[urban hedge]

Think so, speaking of which, does Cirrus have one yet?

[vocal snow]

she had something to do with chest and hips...

[random mulch]

i should remake this but with updated designs

[urban hedge]

I think Permafrost may have won that argument, since it appears that Ilmeris is the only time he made calamitas commit massive arson (assuming the fight with Brimstone Elemental was before Cal worked for Yharim)
Then again, she probably did that in some places outside of the island. Idk.

[random mulch]

this is in the middle of the ilmeris incident

[north wigeon]

i keep calling Ilmeris Azafure lmao
i should brush up on my city naming

not every ruined city is Azafure

imagine i'm learning history and go "ah yes the famous ancient roman city preserved by a volcano, Azafure"

[urban hedge]

I see, makes sense

[random mulch]

homebew yhim is gonna have to wait until after exams so i'll just use the official yhar

my biggest yharim design related question is if it's possible for a design to look both "heroic" and not like "the good guy"

but that'll have to wait until later

[north wigeon]

what would a fallen hero look like visually...

[random mulch]

yharim was never a hero, he only pretended to be one

[north wigeon]

oh yeah of course

[random mulch]

yharim truly has mastered the ancient technique of "lying"

[north wigeon]

ah yes, the long lost art of misinformation

[vocal snow]

lying to himself, presumably

[random mulch]

lying to pretty much everyone

why do you think his facade took so long to break

yellow man done, on to cold man

funny has been remade

[mighty zenith]

chadrim and permajak

[fierce pagoda]

Yeah every time Yharim just opens his mouth, he's lying. Somebody go hand him a grammy right now

So answer me this, is it possible to even fight Yharim, will we even be able to get close to him since he's wearing true auric

which is gonna reject us

he's gonna be like Gojo with limitless

[buoyant inlet]

Yharim is so delusional that any word of his is a manipulation or misinformation

He genuinely doesn't understand that he's evil

[fierce pagoda]

you're right, he's probably even lying about having real auric armor

he's a fraud

through and through

[random mulch]

my favorite type of villain

[buoyant inlet]

f

[random mulch]

the ones who wont fucking budge under any circumstance

[buoyant inlet]

Yharim is like immovable object

[fierce pagoda]

Until we kill him that is

and munch on his soul

[random mulch]

"yharim this isnt right!"
"what are you talking about i'm always right..."

[fierce pagoda]

and body

and mind

[buoyant inlet]

I think my favorite type of villains are either over the top goofy cartoon villains or delusional psychopaths

[fierce pagoda]

what do you think about Sukuna

[buoyant inlet]

Idk who that is

[random mulch]

real

[fierce pagoda]

ok how about frieza

[buoyant inlet]

Haven't seen db

[fierce pagoda]

uhhh have you seen one piece

[buoyant inlet]

I started watching it with friends

But I'm really early in the series

[eager bluff]

fryzahh aint a villain

[fierce pagoda]

ok just tell me some villains you like

like in general

not from ine piece

[mighty zenith]

bill cipher fits both of those like a glove

[buoyant inlet]

True I like him

[buoyant inlet]

Honestly now I don't remember

I like Hondo from clone wars

Tho he's not really a villain he always changes sides

[eager bluff]

dr doofenshmirtz

[buoyant inlet]

But he's goofy and cool

[crimson finch]

I like to think that the crystal in Queen Slime is Slime God stuck inside her

[mighty zenith]

Hondo is great but he's more just an antihero

he doesn't really choose sides, just does what would profit him the most

[north wigeon]

is he really a villain though
in the context of the show

[mighty zenith]

isnt the entire point that he's bad at being bad

[eager bluff]

yes

hes a villain

hes not good at being one but he is one

[north wigeon]

idk have you seen any of his evil schemes work

[eager bluff]

the villain doesnt have to win for them to be a villain

[mighty zenith]

his entire plan is to take over a city by force, yes he is a villain

[crimson finch]

He’s not even evil

He’s just dubious

[eager bluff]

doobieous

[crimson finch]

Exactly

[tall delta]

It is

[north wigeon]

that's just straight up how it is

[solar wharf]

is this silly little guy canon :3

[random mulch]

no

[crimson finch]

Woah

[crimson finch]

I’m so fucking smart

(not)

[urban hedge]

Goozma's not canon

[crimson finch]

boo womp

[solar wharf]

i dont think thats goozma

it does look like it

[crimson finch]

It’s from the Hunt of the Old God mod

[solar wharf]

but im pretty sure its based off of the slime

rancher

[crimson finch]

It’s from slime rancher though

[solar wharf]

guy

i dont have hunt of the old god

[crimson finch]

Tarr Slime

Oh?

What

[solar wharf]

ye

[crimson finch]

You got Vanaties?

Maybe Catalyst?

[urban hedge]

(it was a joke on how Goozma's colors seem to be based on the Tarr Slime, and how both of them are basically a bunch of slimes put into one)

Can't believe nobody got my joke smh my head

[crimson finch]

It’s obvious enough that I didn’t even know it was a joke

My bad g

[solar wharf]

no catalyst

but i do have vanities

[crimson finch]

It’s from vanities

[buoyant inlet]

You can make it canon for your playthrough

[solar wharf]

the terrarain has a silly little guy named sooty following him around....

[crimson finch]

Si

Make him your new best buddy that happens to eat the corpses of all your enemies & gives you loot bags in return

[solar wharf]

I LOVE YOU

THATS SUCH A GOOD IDEA

[crimson finch]

(:

Woah

You get the Tarr slime when Slime God kills a town npc slime

I might just summon slime god just for him to do that

Not even kill my beloved lord

Just for the pet

Let me look up how to get the town slimes

Also does calamity add town slimes?

[urban hedge]

No, but Vanities does

[crimson finch]

Mm so it’s just 11 total slimes

Okayyy

[pliant ruin]

he's an antagonsit but not a villain i'd say

cuz he aint rly evil

u can have a good antagonist and a villain protagonist and stuff

villain - villainous evil guy

antagonist - opposes the protagonist

one is a role the other is a character trait

[solar wharf]

basically, an MC can be a villain

however hes still the protagonist

and the antagonist can be a hero, but he wouldnt be a villain

[pliant ruin]

ya

a villain is a trait just like brave, heroic, sneaky, mischievous

antagonist is a role in the story

[spring helm]

i keep flip-flopping between making my Calamity villain protagonist a goofy saturday morning cartoon villain and making him worse than if yharim and mao zedong combined

(and then Calamitas will be forced into the hero role, REDEMTPTION TIME BABY)

[wheat walrus]

proof of a hero fr

[scenic olive]

Im going

to draw my terrarian oc

[neat tinsel]

My terrarian oc is just master chief with a cape

[crimson finch]

Mines is the Terrarian with the prince outfit & the King Slime mask

Cause he’s a slime (:

damn message sent early

hate discord on cpu

[crimson finch]

Pfhhhhhh

[humble fog]

Fuck calamitas

[wheat walrus]

the hater

[humble fog]

She should be forced into the DEAD role

[crimson finch]

I’m going to force you into the SHOWER role

[stark basalt]

That sounds…

Mildly concerning

[solar wharf]

LMAO

[viral dagger]

just saying, id let silva do unspeakable things to me

[solar wharf]

you know, fair enough

what can i say

the man's just honest

[crimson finch]

hehe silvagunner

[raven terrace]

I have a feeling whatever I say is only gonna further entice you.

[crimson finch]

HOSOHSOBSIBD

[stark basalt]

Mommy nature

Pls don’t ban me

[pseudo temple]

her thighs are fucking crazy

[solar wharf]

if you ban aido, i WILL make sure whoever made that descision gets rightoeus judgement

[stark basalt]

😭😭😭

No because the mods were nice and just warned me

Instead of a suspension thing

I need to be on my best behavior

[glacial rampart]

can we PLEASE stop 😭

[humble fog]

She would be GREAT to just take a nap on

[solar wharf]

BRO

LMAO

[humble fog]

Suspiciously pillow shaped silva

[stark basalt]

If not snuggle buddy, why snuggle shaped?

[glacial rampart]

i love this image btw

[stark basalt]

I might have to steal this from you

[humble fog]

They’re PLATONIC and COZY cuddles

[stark basalt]

Silva would be repulsed by the lore chat regulars

[solar wharf]

why did the chat just suddenly want silva thighs LMAO

[solar wharf]

would she care how she gets worshippers?

i wont be surprised if she went

"worshippers ARE worshippers"

[humble fog]

I blame the one random with the mc pfp

[stark basalt]

Definitely not lol

[solar wharf]

fair enough

[glacial rampart]

can yall STOP 😭 PLEASE its WEIRD

[stark basalt]

Mc man awakened the chat

[stark basalt]

No yeah. Let’s lore

The intricacies of the abyss still intrigue me

[humble fog]

oh but when everybody is feeling sorry for Calamitas it’s fineee

[glacial rampart]

how is that the same thing even remotely

[stark basalt]

Mao what?😭😭

[glacial rampart]

like at all

[stark basalt]

🫸

[humble fog]

They obsess over her

The catgirls

[solar wharf]

Mao spit ur shit fr fr

[glacial rampart]

nah

[sly bloom]

Silva? Nah, cringe, to the Abyss

Yharim, though?

[solar wharf]

SO TRUE

[warped summit]

i'm truly the Permafrost enjoyer ever

[sly bloom]

Based

[stark basalt]

Did yall see the new permafrost concept art???

He looks cool asf

[solar wharf]

ye its so peak

[sly bloom]

Yeah

[warped summit]

yep i did

[stark basalt]

Mango once again coming in clutch with the artwork

[warped summit]

i wish i was able to attend the streams at the time, but twitch nuked the VODs

[humble fog]

I prefer the draedon lab one

[stark basalt]

Mao in his against the system era

Bro does not agree with the popular opinions

[solar wharf]

he lookin for smoke

[stark basalt]

Nah cuz some fanboy is gonna go ham

[wheat walrus]

You're joene foe

[stark basalt]

Omniiiiii

[humble fog]

Mango is based artist

[wheat walrus]

[stark basalt]

Wsssuuuuuup

[warped summit]

I want to draw Permafrost in the Snowquill set from BotW. Personally I still have a bit of attachment to Lilac's design, so I want to personally make my Permafrost a hybrid of Lilac's and Mango's.

[wheat walrus]

Soup

[stark basalt]

Wait cuz this would be peak

[warped summit]

I'm just busy drawing a Blaziken in the Desert Voe Set (truly Zelda hours)

[humble fog]

Blaziken would taste so good

[warped summit]

birds are the class ever

[stark basalt]

Id eat a blaziken

I wonder if it would taste better than Yharon

[warped summit]

KFC wars

[humble fog]

It would be like that one style of chicken nuggets

[solar wharf]

WHY DID WE JUST MENTION BLAZIKEN

WHAT HAPPENED

[humble fog]

I think they’re cajan?

[flint lagoon]

Idk

[warped summit]

HAHAHHAHAA

[humble fog]

That have bright red spices on them

[warped summit]

i was talking about botw

[humble fog]

I got hungry sorry

[solar wharf]

this is truly lore discussion moment

[warped summit]

and me drawing the armor sets on characters

[wheat walrus]

Blaziken solos

[humble fog]

Man I am hungry

What should I eat

[warped summit]

so much that this chicken made an impact on the Permafrost search results 🤭

[wheat walrus]

Aaron McChicken

[humble fog]

Answer using only calamity lore names

[warped summit]

Old Duke

[sly bloom]

Apollo-Yharon

[stark basalt]

Sis

*sus

[humble fog]

Sos

Sea of stars

Go play sea of stars

[urban hedge]

Go Sea away from the Stars

[crimson finch]

Why the hell did I see a discussion about Silva Thighs

How bout Chicken Thighs

Tasty chicken

Maybe some Mashed Potatoes on the side

A nice bread roll

[earnest flare]

top 10 calamity characters im attracted to

alright thanks for watching

there is one punchline and one wholesome message to this

both completely seperate

[crimson finch]

[calm patio]

Stop cooking.

[woeful patio]

Yharon thigh fried to golden brown

[stark basalt]

I’d eat Yharon thighs

Crispy Yharon wings

[woeful patio]

Auric meat yummy

[urban hedge]

It's even a renewable (albeit rare) resource!

[calm patio]

good job, you burnt the fucking kitchen down since you cant cook

[urban hedge]

I wonder what Scrambled or Boiled Yharon egg would taste like...

[stark basalt]

Yhartastic

[woeful patio]

Shocking

[wheat walrus]

You're aroace

Like

LIKE

WARCRIME WITCH WOMAN CALAMITAS

👹

[crimson finch]

Mmm war crime witch woman go crazy

[wheat walrus]

Critter

[woeful patio]

Why does Silva look more human than any other god? yes I know she's a elemental/dryad

[stark basalt]

Why not?

lol jk

[solar wharf]

same reason as to why other elementals look human i assume

[humble fog]

What better to embody being the goddess of life than resembling the species that ends the most of it

[glacial rampart]

goober :3

[woeful patio]

Damn soo true🗿

[humble fog]

Reading this back this is like the worst sentence I’ve seen all day and it gives me a stroke to try to understand

[real silo]

Never stop cooking

[stark basalt]

Popcorn has a gift

This pfp is actually my favorite creation

[solar wharf]

i love popcorn

[stark basalt]

We need the gang back together

[solar wharf]

sotrue

[cosmic zenith]

Otonilou is basically unchanged as well

As an Ilmerian, she was already a jellyfish lady

[stark basalt]

OTONILOU MENTIONEDDDD

[woeful patio]

Oh yeah I've seen the concept art

[stark basalt]

🗣️🗣️🗣️

[cosmic zenith]

Tyrian, the God of the Seas, is mostly unchanged, with a few details + the cannon arm

[stark basalt]

Wait Tyrian always had that spooky face?

[woeful patio]

Also I got questions
Is the Martians Evasion cannon?

[cosmic zenith]

Yes afaik and yes

[woeful patio]

Ahh so only the Halloween and Christmas is non-cannon

[warped summit]

for my take on Calamity's story, Silva has a very grand, terrifying, and maybe eldricth form on Ascension. Similar to Keios' works, but really big

[slender ingot]

I wonder why that's not canon

[stark basalt]

This would be badass

[warped summit]

Silva's personality in my lore is probably pretty different from what the officials have in store lmao

[scenic olive]

Otonilou

im gonna dip her in pot of pain

[stark basalt]

No she’s good I think

[scenic olive]

Im gonna commit a yharim

[stark basalt]

Don’t do it mokkuuu

[woeful patio]

Genocide 🔥🔥

[scenic olive]

Deicide

well excluding the human followers

[glacial rampart]

the design we have is already her post-ascension design, no?

[warped summit]

honestly i'm not sure

okay so imgur went boom boom today

[real silo]

It is her post ascension design

[woeful patio]

Out of all god design she's the only one that look normal unlike some that look like an amalgated

[tall delta]

probably to look friendly to others

[woeful patio]

Makes sense cus she's one of the good god

[real silo]

We don't know if she's good or not

[tall delta]

she probably is

[stark basalt]

The dryads worship her

She’s gotta be okay

[scenic olive]

What

[stark basalt]

Cuz the dryads are okay

[woeful patio]

She did let us get some powerfull weapon after defeating skeletron

[scenic olive]

Shes half a tree

[stark basalt]

Tree lady

[scenic olive]

Vegetable

[north wigeon]

how much more benevolent can a nature and life god get
i mean her essence sustained an entire abyss ecosystem when she died
which in turn fueled Azafure

[woeful patio]

Chomp

[stark basalt]

crunch

[real silo]

she never died

Silly

[north wigeon]

well

[stark basalt]

She can’t really die

[north wigeon]

disposed of

[scenic olive]

I think thats more like a problem

[real silo]

It's not a problem according to the azafurians

Free food is free food

[scenic olive]

she allows too much life to flourish

[solar wharf]

i mean, if silva is like every other elemental, then she might not be good

if she wants to expand

[scenic olive]

leading to the dragons banishing her to the abyss

[solar wharf]

do we even know that the dragons

[real silo]

Ok but what's the use of an empty fuckin hole if not to house creatures

[solar wharf]

did that?

[scenic olive]

Life is good

[solar wharf]

life needs balance tho

it wouldnt be healthy to have the equivlant of a reaper shark on land if not stronger

[scenic olive]

Well who wouldve banished her other than the dragons for the first time?

[real silo]

I think it's reasonable
The only great powers back before azafure was founded were the dragons

[scenic olive]

the cultist?

[solar wharf]

we dont know what others existed back then, im not sayong dragons DIDNT do it

im saying we dont know much about the time

so

[scenic olive]

Maybe draedon came back to the past and throw her into the abyss

[north wigeon]

oh okay silva displaced anahita from the abyss

okay makes sense

[solar wharf]

ye

but anahita an asshole anyway

so she kinda deserved that

tbf every elemental is

beside maybe silva

[scenic olive]

Cloud elemental

[solar wharf]

attacks us on SIGHT

[real silo]

clod sprite

[solar wharf]

that shits personal

[scenic olive]

Storm weaver

Actually eats too much part of Cloud Elemental

It gives him lightning powers

[woeful patio]

I guess everyone in Calamity universe is an asshole at some point in time

[scenic olive]

The people of Ilmeris

[hushed geyser]

Scourge:

[north wigeon]

weird, i couldn't find anything about silva's previous dumping into the pit

sorry, silva
force of habit

[scenic olive]

Dev statement

[woeful patio]

It's in one of the Slime

[scenic olive]

I have a theory that there are stronger forms of Astral Infection

[north wigeon]

i'm literally going through the cal lore doc with find and replace and i couldn't find anything

[hushed geyser]

It's a dev statement

[north wigeon]

oh ok

[hushed geyser]

You have contracted stage 5 astral infection

You have 2 seconds to live

[solar wharf]

i wonder if mars has a world soul

[scenic olive]

how many days do i have left doc

[north wigeon]

especially the astral blight (noncanon fanservice)

[solar wharf]

that might have been destroyed

[crimson finch]

I fucking hate Anahita

[scenic olive]

Noooooooo

[hushed geyser]

"Tell my family i"

[humble fog]

Astral infection meet astral injection

[scenic olive]

my last words to

[crimson finch]

I want to cave her skull in with a rock

[hushed geyser]

His last words were "i"

[solar wharf]

can i just inject a small astrum deus in my blood veins

to clean the infection

[scenic olive]

dont search up my browser history"

dies

[solar wharf]

well u wouldnt die

[hushed geyser]

Instant blood clot

[crimson finch]

Shooting up Astral Infection in the Denny’s corner booth

[solar wharf]

u would become one with the infection

[solar wharf]

LMAO

[hushed geyser]

Injecting a worm into your veins

Literally a death wish

[scenic olive]

Inject yourself with the Dead Gods Essence

be one with the flesh

[real silo]

Wrath potions

[hushed geyser]

Inject yourself with a great rune

[real silo]

inject yourself with auric dust

[hushed geyser]

Good way to melt

[north wigeon]

cover yourself in slime

[real silo]

vaporise your arm in one quick step

[scenic olive]

Auric Pepper Spray

[crimson finch]

Repeat Offender

[hushed geyser]

If I'm a demigod am I worthy to touch auric

[real silo]

Demigods don't exist

[north wigeon]

i mean sure but
doesn't say by the dragons

[scenic olive]

youre worthy if youre dead

[hushed geyser]

Proof

[scenic olive]

[real silo]

My fuckin ass

[hushed geyser]

Damn

[scenic olive]

Wait hes right

Since terrarian lore is up to you

[real silo]

You can't split an auric soul in half

[hushed geyser]

I am a demigod cuh

[scenic olive]

you can bullshit your way into becoming a demigod

[hushed geyser]

Says who

[real silo]

Best you can do is copy stupecca's OC

[scenic olive]

[hushed geyser]

" Forefathers one and all, bear witness"

[north wigeon]

but can you create a shitty dollar store auric soul

and claim demigodhood that way

[real silo]

Polterghast

[hushed geyser]

I can say I'm a demigod and not elaborate

[scenic olive]

Thermonuclear Auric Fission

[real silo]

Me ascending with the human soul of humanity

[hushed geyser]

The human dragon

👨‍🦲

[real silo]

not to be confused with the dragon human

[north wigeon]

you know that concern about atmospheric combustion? if we did that with an auric soul it'd probably actually happen

[scenic olive]

What powers youd get from it

[hushed geyser]

Idle transfiguration

[real silo]

powers include being a dick

[scenic olive]

do you mean that metaphorically or

[hushed geyser]

Both

[stark basalt]

[hushed geyser]

It's funnier that way

[north wigeon]

you do just transform into a weiner

[scenic olive]

Storm weiner

[earnest flare]

if fovos means dread then does draedon almost translate to "fovoson"

[hushed geyser]

Vofoson

[north wigeon]

no way draedon is fovos's son real

[scenic olive]

Fovos shat out an ai

[hushed geyser]

Draedon couldn't beat me in hand to hand combat

[crimson finch]

What

[stark basalt]

John wulfrum

Is Draedon’s creator

[scenic olive]

Draedon Installs a pulse rocket launcher directly to his hand :

[hushed geyser]

John Draedon

[scenic olive]

technically still a hand

[stark basalt]

Draefrum

[hushed geyser]

John Don

[north wigeon]

he'll win