lore-discussion

[solar wharf]

are they sapient?

[spring helm]

she brings them back via necromancy in our fight

[pliant ruin]

it's implied not

they're like

[spring helm]

maybe just a little bit, but no more than like... a boston dynamics dog

[pliant ruin]

more advanced than ravager

cuz at the very least

they can follow commands and be coordinated

[solar wharf]

so the player killed her brothers infront of her eyes?

[pliant ruin]

but they still seem to be quite literally nothing more than that

[pliant ruin]

Tbf

[spring helm]

i guess

[pliant ruin]

she is the one that summons them in the first place

she knew they were gonna die

[reef elk]

Her "brothers"

[pliant ruin]

it's not like she can't just, bring them back again

[reef elk]

But yea

[pliant ruin]

The actual brothers are long gone so it's not like

[reef elk]

Theyre practically empty

[pliant ruin]

killing them would do much difference

[pliant ruin]

^

[solar wharf]

ye but i dont think that matters, if i call my big brother to help me in a fight, and he gets beaten up, even tho technically its partially my fault

i do not care

[pliant ruin]

The brothers in her fight are basically just

[solar wharf]

beating whoever did that up

[solar wharf]

SO THEN

[pliant ruin]

machines i guess??? thats the best comparison i can think of lol

[solar wharf]

WHY WOULD SHE REVIVE THEM?

[pliant ruin]

to beat you up

[solar wharf]

why her brothers specifically

that sounds fucked

[pliant ruin]

idk lol

[reef elk]

Capable fighters of blood that are loyal and familiar ig

[hushed geyser]

They can fight

[pliant ruin]

they're capable fighters yeaha

[solar wharf]

well yeah, guess who also can fight

[reef elk]

She probably knows them more than something else

[solar wharf]

spelucher

[reef elk]

Barely

[pliant ruin]

and also maybe it's a coping mechanism
lmao

[hushed geyser]

Just call it gameplay and move on

[spring helm]

bring a fuck ton of ectoplasm and polterplasm to the calamitas boss fight
Calamitas summons her brothers
Throw ghost essence at them
Brothers become sentient
"Hey sis, so is this guy your boyfriend or something?"
Success

[solar wharf]

in what sense is her brothers existing gameplay? they couldv used any other entity

[spring helm]

probably because of old lore

[hushed geyser]

You fight them cus it would be boring to fight spelucher 3 times

[solar wharf]

then it doesnt have to be her brothers

make up a new entity

[pliant ruin]

catastrophe and cataclysm as in the ones she summon r about as alive as like

idk man

[hushed geyser]

Why

[pliant ruin]

a door

[hushed geyser]

Her brothers are right there

Already existing

[solar wharf]

if u didnt want calamitas to do something as fucked up as using her non living brothers to fight?

[solar wharf]

thats not the point

[pliant ruin]

i think it's implied that she tried to bring them back, but all she got was
those guys

so

might aswell use them

[solar wharf]

ur saying it has no lore value

if so then why them

[hushed geyser]

I'm saying you're looking too deep

It ain't that deep cuh

[solar wharf]

this is lore discussion...

thats kinda what we do?

[spring helm]

we'll make it that deep

[hushed geyser]

L move

[solar wharf]

:((

[pliant ruin]

eh i don't really care about her using them for a fight
if they're not actually ''alive'' and don't actually have their memories i honestly don't care, and they don't, so

[spring helm]

well she is a depressed woman living in a cave, maybe she just misses them

[pliant ruin]

also yeah

i don't doubt she legit just keeps them around as coping mechanism lol

she tried to revive them, only got

those two things instead

might aswell

[solar wharf]

ye, the intention behind it might just have been coping

but its still a fucked action

[pliant ruin]

idk i dont think its all that bad

they don't have their memories

or consciousness

or

you know

[spring helm]

that's just kinda her life after the Brimstone Elemental incident

[pliant ruin]

are even barely alive

so

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[solar wharf]

fair enough

[spring helm]

Calamitas the First
She was a girl in Azafure doing alright
Then she got brimstone magic overnight
Now she's gotta figure out how to do it right
So much to learn and see

[solar wharf]

yeah...

the person she got killed

now shes using their lifeless souls or bodies in a losing battle

[pliant ruin]

honestly i think the best comparison i can think of personally would be if i kept around a statue of my dead uncle jimmy (i don't have a dead uncle called jimmy) and then someone broke the statue of my dead uncle jimmy
i'd probably be upset but it's not like i can't just like rebuild the statue of my dead uncle jimmy

[solar wharf]

the difference is

[supple thunder]

i wonder if she ever sat them down and pretended to chat with them

[solar wharf]

shes practically playing with their corpse

[pliant ruin]

Idk if she's

playing with them though?

She's
trying to kill someone

and they're right there

and they're strong

so like

[solar wharf]

so then she uses their corpse?

where is the respect

[supple thunder]

they fought in life

[solar wharf]

she literally killed them, cant she atleast let them be in peace?

[supple thunder]

she’s letting them fight again maybe??

[pliant ruin]

i think that's just dwelling into personal beliefs more than anything

[spring helm]

that's an interesting thought
She starts losing the fight and gets desperate, so she uses her necromancy magic and her thoughts turn to her brothers, who protected her when they were alive

[solar wharf]

i dont think using corpses to fight for urself is morally correct

[hushed geyser]

I don't think

[solar wharf]

specially not ones you killed

[hushed geyser]

Anything cal does is morally correct

[solar wharf]

ye but thats not the point

im saying thats a fucked action

cheese is saying she doesnt see anything bad

[hushed geyser]

Everything cal does doing her fight is morally bad

Including fighting

[pliant ruin]

if i could bring back my uncle jimmy as a cool ass skeleton to fight for me i would, specially considering uncle jimmy (cool ass skeleton edition) wouldn't even have any of cool uncle jimmy's consciousness or memories or
anything

so it's not like i'm even like

afctually harming my cool uncjle jimmy

[solar wharf]

ye but its disrespectful to do that?

ur using their body as a weapon

[hushed geyser]

Defacing him

And his legacy

[supple thunder]

that’s definitely personal belief

[pliant ruin]

i mean again thats just personal belief

[solar wharf]

this is the equivlant of me digging out a corpse to block an arrow

thats not good

[supple thunder]

maybe azafurians value letting the dead continue to do what they did in life

[solar wharf]

let the man be in peace

[hushed geyser]

Using corpses as false soldiers

(Literally a warcrime)

Mutilating a corpse in any way is a warcrime iirc

[solar wharf]

its even worse because now their just puppets

[pliant ruin]

personally if i died and found out ppl turned me into a cool ass skeleton i wouldn't care all that much

[solar wharf]

ur using a literal corpse as a puppet

[pliant ruin]

as long as the cool ass skeleton isn't being used for things i'd be morally opposed to

[hushed geyser]

(Beyond damage taken previously)

[solar wharf]

personally, i dont really give a shit if someone started a fight with me, if anything that can be fun to throw hands, however does that make the action right?

no?

[supple thunder]

necromancy as a whole is morally interesting

[solar wharf]

its normal for someone to not give a fuck about something morally questionable

[pliant ruin]

i mean if my soul was TRAPPED in the skeleton that's a different story

[solar wharf]

but that doesnt really prove anything

[pliant ruin]

but if it was just

my bones being used as a cool skeleton

honestly go for it

make me beat up some evil guys or something it sounds cool

[graceful otter]

cal has played with their corpses before

[solar wharf]

necromancy unless perfect should never be used except for specific interest or with consent

[supple thunder]

i’d be honored if i got to be part of sans’s final attack

[spring helm]

nah santa just brought them back for christmas

[supple thunder]

define perfect necromancy

[hushed geyser]

Santa is the most powerful npc

[solar wharf]

literally reviving

nothing more

nothing less

[hushed geyser]

Brings them back to life completely

[solar wharf]

it isnt even necromancy at that point

[hushed geyser]

No downsides

[supple thunder]

well that’s probably why it was banned during the deific era

[solar wharf]

necromancy is confirmed

to not be perfect

in cal

[supple thunder]

calamitas was horribly traumatized by the the time she was proficient at necromancy

i doubt she cared about its morals

[hushed geyser]

(She really doesn't)

[pliant ruin]

Using a dead body as a shield of someone you don't know? Yeah i can see why that might be fucked, i don't think it's the worst thing ever but it's not exactly the most moral thing ever
But if ur bringing back ur loved ones to be cool ass guardians for you isn't anywhere near as bad i don't think, unless ur loved ones where like explicitly against that or smth

[solar wharf]

true but thats not the point, i still think what she did was fucked

[pliant ruin]

like ofc that like

depends

from case to case

[stark basalt]

Calamitas is fucked up

[pliant ruin]

but me personally

[hushed geyser]

I don't think yall are seeing like cal does, she literally like

[stark basalt]

But I like Calamitas

[hushed geyser]

Killed them

And brought them back

[supple thunder]

accidentally

[hushed geyser]

Solely to fight

[hushed geyser]

Even worse

[solar wharf]

cheese, you gotta remind urself, she KILLED those brothers, shes the reason their in THIS state, a better option was instead of letting them do ur bidding, maybe let them be in peace

[pliant ruin]

i mean

we don't evenb

know if the constructs influence the actual afterlife of the brothers lol

i wasn't even cosnidering that

cuz like

if they're not alive, not conscious, don't have emotions, anything like that

[stark basalt]

No cuz they’re probably just husks at this point

[pliant ruin]

they might aswell literally just be their bodies

its what i said

if my soul was TRAPPED in the cool ass skeleton

then yeah

thats bad

[solar wharf]

even if it didnt, corpses are still something respectful to them, its why you see someone blocking an arrow wth a corpse is fucked

[pliant ruin]

but if its just my bones being used

idc

[solar wharf]

there is respect in that corpse

[supple thunder]

“empty shells of their former selves”

[solar wharf]

its something that shouldnt be played with

[hushed geyser]

That doesn't matter it's still the fact that she killed them and had to bring them back to life just to fight like

[solar wharf]

specially when ur the murderer

the one that ruined it all

[stark basalt]

Idk man, my brother would want me to use him as a human shield ngl

[hushed geyser]

It's gonna have a heavy mental toll on her

[pliant ruin]

yeah but also there's

a difference beetween

grabbing a corpse

using it as a shield

thats oibviously being disrespectful

[supple thunder]

and that’s what they did in life too

they cared deeply about calamitas

[pliant ruin]

i wouldn't like if someone did that to me

but in this case it's like

[supple thunder]

and protected her

[hushed geyser]

Putting a bomb in a corpse is now a ok

[pliant ruin]

big ass knight guardian skeleton guy

[hushed geyser]

[solar wharf]

cheese lets word it like this, if the person that killed you, started using ur body for bidding, would u unironically be fine with that?

the person that took ur life away

ruined it all

[pliant ruin]

no lol cuz that person is probably bad and evil

but in this case

it's their sister

and she did it by accident

[supple thunder]

she was trying to protect them

[stark basalt]

Its not like she killed them on purpose

[pliant ruin]

so if i was there i really wouldn't care

[solar wharf]

they must be REAAL nice fucking brothers for them to STILL love their sister after everything she did

[supple thunder]

she tried

[stark basalt]

Duck when unconditional love

[pliant ruin]

honestly if i got accidentaly killed by someone who was trying to protect me i wouldnt even be mad if anything i'd feel bad

tragic ass story

[hushed geyser]

What I would love my brother if he accidentally killed me

[reef elk]

Yea id love my sibling the same

[supple thunder]

me too

[spring helm]

i'd be a little pissed but not like, furious

[reef elk]

Id be like hell yea do it tbf

[hushed geyser]

I'd love most of my friends and my family the same too

[stark basalt]

I’d still love my brother

[solar wharf]

ye unconditional love still has limits, if my sister killed me, then burnt an entire city, i wouldnt look at her the same ever again, sure maybe hate her is too strong of a word, but if ur gonna tell me, ur still gonna treat ur sister the same

[stark basalt]

I’d have to flame him tho

[solar wharf]

fully knowing many lives

where ruined by her

[supple thunder]

like azafure was probably doomed anyway

[solar wharf]

then ig idk what to say, we have different thinking?

[supple thunder]

she just tried to stop it

[hushed geyser]

You'd still love them, just cus you ain't treat em the same don't mean you don't love them

[stark basalt]

Nah cuz I have no sympathy for Azafure

[solar wharf]

but can you even call it full on love?

[stark basalt]

Backing Yharim’s war effort n shit

[hushed geyser]

Yes

If it was an accident

[solar wharf]

the only reason i wouldnt hate her is because of said unconditional love, but i dont think i can show her love

thats just a no to me

[hushed geyser]

I would still love my brother

[reef elk]

Difference between showing love

[hushed geyser]

I really don't care

[reef elk]

And protecting

[stark basalt]

You don’t have to show love to love someone

[solar wharf]

oh me as well, if he killed me by accident, im talking about everything she did, not just this incident specifically

[spring helm]

i think it's time to put this conversation to a close

[solar wharf]

i cant hug my sister if i knew she burnt an entire city

basically genocide

[stark basalt]

Popcorn it’s lore

the lore

[supple thunder]

i think brimstone elemental would’ve killed her brothers and the city regardless of what calamitas did

[stark basalt]

hi lorerians

[supple thunder]

fight or not they probably would’ve died

[stark basalt]

Hi Corolla

[reef elk]

We have kind of moved past lore though at this point and gone into personal moral arguments

[supple thunder]

so the fact that calamitas tried to protect them is reason enough to continue loving her

[solar wharf]

its still about calamitas so

[supple thunder]

it’s her personal lore ig

[stark basalt]

I could always start talking about Braelor again

[spring helm]

not really, you're more talking about each others' personal morals

[solar wharf]

but thats not the full on issue, you gotta remember, she burnt an entire city and aided in genocide, do the brothers really wanna do her bidding after that?

is that really what they want?

[stark basalt]

wh o is braelor

[solar wharf]

ant lover

he has an ant army

hes so cool

[stark basalt]

Oh Corolla I have a story for you

[solar wharf]

i love him so much

[stark basalt]

He’s actually so cool

[solar wharf]

ikr

[reef elk]

Give corolla the brae lore

[stark basalt]

uh oh

Once upon a time, there was a gay guy who liked ants

[supple thunder]

she was manipulated into it and deeply regretted it by the time we fight her

[solar wharf]

oh my god yes!!

[stark basalt]

Him and his boy toy Statis decided to fight try and do a stupid

[solar wharf]

LMAO

[stark basalt]

They ended up in DoG’s basement

And now they’re divorced

oh no

Also, Braelor has an ant army

[supple thunder]

the end :(

[solar wharf]

yeah

he has a really cool ant army

[stark basalt]

that was such a crazy story

[solar wharf]

also i love how we named anything except the one important part

[stark basalt]

He also has a gigantic axe

[solar wharf]

hes silvas champion

[stark basalt]

Oh yeah

Mommy nature

[solar wharf]

DAMN

[stark basalt]

She’s important too

[solar wharf]

did silva raise braelor

or did they just meet

[stark basalt]

Good question

[solar wharf]

"hey i wanna help you"

[stark basalt]

Well, since Braelor likes ants, he must love nature

[solar wharf]

true

[stark basalt]

So Silva was all like

“Hey ant dude, imma give you some armor”

And he just fucks with nature so heavy

That he said okay

[solar wharf]

so true

i like this story

its so well written

[stark basalt]

Bro I’m coming after Cei’s job

[reef elk]

[solar wharf]

DAMN!!!

[stark basalt]

Anyways

I wonder how bad Yharim got burned

Like are we talking darth vader levels of burned?

[solar wharf]

can yharon swim in lava

[stark basalt]

Do we think that he can eat?

[stark basalt]

Yharon smells, so he can’t swim at all

[solar wharf]

true true

[stark basalt]

I wonder how DoG flys too

[wheat walrus]

Mogs the air

Not like he can mog anything else

[stark basalt]

mohg

[crimson finch]

I think he just like

Does the worm so pathetically on the ground to the point reality pities him and lets him fly instead of wriggling on the dirt.

[hushed geyser]

Nihil

Nihil

Nihil

[stark basalt]

dame tu cosita

[hushed geyser]

Can't wait for starscourge radahn to snipe yharim

And say it's starscourging time

[stark basalt]

godrick in calamity

[hushed geyser]

He'd die

Instantly

[stark basalt]

valiant gargoyles

placidusax canon in calamity

[hushed geyser]

Real

[stark basalt]

metvox

malenia in calalmendy

clamanity

[crimson finch]

What the scallop does the holiday( Halloweenie & The Santa one) events contribute to the lore?

[tropic oak]

they dont

[crimson finch]

[swift ferry]

So I just read all the new draedon dialogue

Why would cal release calclone and give it her magic. What is her goal there

[humble fog]

She was bored

[swift ferry]

True

[civic salmon]

Gonna confess I didn't think Calamitas destroyed Azafure when she first awakened her powers, for some reason I thought it was later. But now that I know the order of events I'd personally put Calamitas's age around 9 or 10 when she fought Brimmy

The one thing that confuses me is this:

Azafure burned when the wishes of the Gods who tried to set up Yharim as God-King weren't met...? That claim doesn't really make sense, Azafure was destroyed the better part of a century after the beginning of the Crusade. And Yharim even says Azafure burning is an "unfortunate price of war" but from his perspective, the Brimstone Elemental awakening and duking it out with Calamitas should just be a freak occurence

This Bestiary entry on the Brimstone Elemental cites her awakening as possible being due to "dubious prophecies" or even as part of "a plot by opposing forces"

Also, Yharim contradicts himself between the Underworld lore entry (first image I sent) and the Azafure lore entry (this one), saying he has no regrets in the former but does have regrets in the latter

I wonder if Yharim orchestrated Brimmy's reawakening somehow. Maybe he wanted revenge on Azafure but knew he couldn't destroy it head-on, so he made use of the city's forgemasters for supplying his army, all while knowing it would provoke the Brimstone Elemental's wrath and cause the downfall of the city that once served the gods. But the fact that it took so long (presumably, most people who served the gods in Azafure were dead by the time Brimmy awoke), and witnessing Calamitas's trauma first hand, made Yharim regret the way his plan ultimately came to fruition.

That, or some of this is going to be corrected with the Brimstone Crags updated, and I'm speculating based on out-of-date lore. Also possible.

[sinful adder]

Azafure was his home, and the people there were on his side. I don't think he would want revenge

It makes far more sense for one of these two things to be the case:
1: The use of brimstone by yharim's army accidentally awoke the elemental (more likely)
2: Their enemy gods awoke the elemental (the ones who survived)

Yharim doesn't regret fighting for his people, the azafurians, but does regret awakening the brimstone elemental in the process.

[clear vessel]

We can't say Azafure was Yharim's home, as there really isn't a way to know that's where he came from. In fact, he describes having to deal with Blood Moons, which seems to mean he lived somewhere on the surface. Saying that he fought for his people and Azafure burned kinda seems like he's trying to serve the narrative that "I fought the gods for the sake of those wronged by them and Azafure, the most powerful ally city I have, payed the price" which could be completely fabricated

[pliant ruin]

She dosen't have a goal

I highly believe it was just cuz

She didn't want her clone to go through the same things she did lol

(Being used as a tool)

[swift ferry]

that's sweet actually

[elder trench]

is there a full like lore video

[pliant ruin]

none that i know of, none that are updated atleast

there's a documment in pins w all the current lore tho

[elder trench]

bet

[graceful otter]

i believe blood moon affects the entire world

not just the surface

[clear vessel]

true, but he's specifically talking about the swarms of the undead in that lore item, which isn't present in the underworld

unless they were at one point, but something changed that

[graceful otter]

i mean skeletons count as undead too

[sinful adder]

He lived in azafure. We know this. Plus, getting to the surface takes like 5 minutes.

[urban hedge]

Takes a lot more than 5 minutes if there's no path, and it doesn't seem like there was a path

[sinful adder]

Also the blood moon affecting only the surface is not canon, I would guess. Just a gameplay thing.

[sinful adder]

This is also probably a gameplay thing. How else would a massive city trade with others?

[civic salmon]

Actually, the Blood Moon lore item doesn't explicitly say that Yharim was the one fighting during Blood Moons, just that people fighting during Blood Moons reminds him of all the fighting he's done

[urban hedge]

Either way, They could probably live with taking like a couple of hours or smthng to travel, even if it's an annoyance

[sacred shoal]

I love the way the mod shames you for killing a lot of the bosses

[pliant ruin]

wuh

[spring helm]

the sin

[pliant ruin]

No seriously are there

are there any bosses where the game does that

[graceful otter]

as

thats it

[pliant ruin]

does it even do that though???

like

acid rain gets stronger, i guess????

[humble fog]

Queen bee

[pliant ruin]

does it??

nothing even changes after you kill queen bee

[humble fog]

Witch doctor moves in

To shame you

[graceful otter]

i dont think they mean actively harm you

just say

"look you did something awful when u killed that thing"

[pliant ruin]

ye but does like

the mod do that

am i missing smth

[novel tulip]

It’s passive until u attack it

[pliant ruin]

i'm aware

what i'm talking about

the mod

shaming you for killing it

[novel tulip]

not directly, but it only attacking when provoked implies that it wouldntve done any harm to you or the world if you didn’t

So there was no reason to kill it

And it sorta mentions that in the lore item

[pliant ruin]

hey lore chat,,,

did i cook,,,

[stark basalt]

You cooked

[civic salmon]

Very interesting choices here

[humble fog]

Why two scooge phm

[pliant ruin]

too much hardmode bosses and it was the only one that felt appropriate to move to pre hm,,,

i do think its al ittle weird to have two scourges pre hm but its what i have to work with here ;-;

[civic salmon]

Welp I thought of another theory while in the shower

For a while I've been thinking "huh, the Slime God consumed the Auric Soul of Gluttony, I wonder if there were Auric Souls for the other deadly sins"

and then I realized

There's a God in the lore, whose Auric Soul and Domain is unknown to us, who has a tie to one of the deadly sins

The Corruption/Crimson

Where you fish for ingredients for... the Wrath Potion and Rage Potion

[pliant ruin]

interesting

[civic salmon]

What if the original Auric Soul nommed by the God whose corpse became the Corruption/Crimson, was the Auric Soul of Wrath?

[pliant ruin]

but since corruption and crimson are both just piles of multiple god's corpses

that'd need for like, the
wrath god to be somehow inboth of them

[civic salmon]

Do the Corruption and Crimson coexist in Calamity Lore

Or are they alternate possibilities for the same mosh pit of dead gods

And yeah I should've phrased it as "what if the Auric Soul of one of the Gods who became the Evil Biome was the Auric Soul of Wrath"

[pliant ruin]

they coexist ye

i always itnerpreted

corruption = organized/lawful evil guys
crimson = chaotic brute evil guys

[civic salmon]

See I buy that for Vanilla Terraria but for Calamity I'd want a definitive answer

[pliant ruin]

i imagine crimson would be a bunch of different creatures killing eachother 24/7 and corruption, every guy is gonna organizedly try killing you and you specifically

[civic salmon]

Well the Wrath Potion is specifically the Corruption while the Rage Potion is the Crimson

[pliant ruin]

cuz of things like all corruption enemies having roughly similar appearance while crimson enemies r greatly different (besides all being fleshy), hive mind being, well, a hive mind, while perforators are a bunch of worms that are literally eating one of their own (the hive) and using it as a ''vehicle"

[civic salmon]

If I were to split the remaining sins between the Corruption, Crimson, and Hallow I'd probably say:
Hallow: Lust and Sloth
Corruption: Wrath and Greed
Crimson: Pride and Envy

Corruption has the Wrath potion, and enemies like "Clingers" and "Feeders"

Hallow is used to create the Love Potion so lust is natural, and Sloth kinda (very loosely) ties in with the idea of a fantasyland that's actually deadly

And if the Crimson is a free-for-all like you describe, well, Pride and Envy are excellent ingredients to fester into hate

[pliant ruin]

tbh i doubt hallow would relate to any sins

given it's composed of benevolent gods

it would seem a little counterintuitive

[civic salmon]

Is it?

[pliant ruin]

ye

it's even likely the reason the hallow only appears after you beat WoF is because it was sealed inside of it completely, while the other two evil biomes remained atleast partially

of course because

yharim wouldn't want any evidence that gods could be good

[civic salmon]

Ah I see, because the world evil was killed by Yharim first as they were the Azafurian Gods who tried to set him up as God-King

That being said, this is the Auric Soul, not the domain of the God. And we know that Auric Souls don't influence the actual personality of the God who absorbs them. But yeah I can see why that thematically might not fit

[pliant ruin]

I don't think there's any confirmation they were Azafurian but i don't doubt it

but ye

[civic salmon]

Azafure was the home base of the Gods who tried to set up Yharim as God-King, it makes sense that they would be the first ones he killed, and he said the Corruption/Crimson was the "first of his mistakes"

I still think the very core theory (one of the Corruption/Crimson gods is Wrath) might have legs though

[pliant ruin]

Corruption/Crimson are both evil gods Yharim started his crusade against, and the Corruption in particular seems like the most likely candidate for the gods who wanted him to be a God-King given the use of specific phrasing

[glacial rampart]

yeah all he says is "that is how i remember the sleepless nights from my younger days... knee deep in corpses"

[civic salmon]

Yeah I'm anal about the implications of this one lore item b/c I made that same assumption and then realized no, wait, we can't draw that strong of a conclusion actually

[solar wharf]

im confused on whats that suppose to be

[latent bolt]

the hallow would likely be related to virtues rather than sins

[hushed geyser]

Sin of fraud, place seems peaceful and stuff but is really violent and shit

[topaz shard]

aw the yharims army event got scrapped

yharim loyalists ig

[plucky spruce]

i'm sorry lore-discussion, but calamity worldbuilding will never be able to reach the levels of my singing monsters worldbuilding

[fierce pagoda]

Bam du bam bam dua

wake up the wublins wake up the wublins

[wheat walrus]

10 calamities struck

[civic salmon]

Terrarian,,, I remember youre Calamites

yknow what im not gonna fix that typo

[visual kiln]

true

[buoyant inlet]

Azzy jumpscat e

[spring helm]

Wtf that’s Omni

[scenic olive]

Yharmy

[wheat walrus]

I'm Yhim

[visual kiln]

yhim

yhon

xoc

nus

catas

dedon

[brisk frigate]

Pemfos

[hoary berry]

dadlus

[wheat walrus]

Caramitee mode

[civic salmon]

ay caramba

[humble fog]

wfum

[latent bolt]

you forgor catas’s brother catac

[shut tide]

ah yes catac and catas

[latent bolt]

calam is there too

[shut tide]

What would providence be

[latent bolt]

povid

[hoary berry]

drally

[latent bolt]

devog

[tranquil seal]

Poterghas

[latent bolt]

get em

[violet timber]

After reading up as much as I could about calamitas, shes the boss in the mod I feel the most bad for

Poor calami

[wheat walrus]

calamitee

[violet timber]

Once I complete as much as I can of the game

I will eventually write a fanfic

[solar wharf]

is xeorc's "roar" canon

[cloud ibex]

the what

[tall delta]

The boss rush activation sound i imagine

[visual bane]

I think that's just the terminus rock screaming

[solar wharf]

what acoon says

theres a scream

once u activate the terminus

[supple thunder]

what if it’s like the loud screech when nameless deity spawns in wotg

like a rush of air from xeroc appearing

[cloud ibex]

xeroc doesn't strike me as the screamy type

[buoyant inlet]

xeroc hits his toe against the rock on his way to us

[hoary berry]

i assumed it was a sound made by the terminus itself

or a remnant of old stuff

[visual bane]

funny rock finally breathes after a milennia underwater

lets hear it's relief:

[royal crater]

Will we be able to kill Xeroc/Noxus? If it's known, of course

[brazen ice]

Wait
Is infernum canon or have its own seperate headcanon

[shut tide]

infernum is not canon

[brazen ice]

:[

[shut tide]

Any cal addon is not canon as far as i am aware

[brazen ice]

Man
I really wish DoG live up to it's name
And not just
Killed 1 demi-god and then call it a day

[mighty zenith]

qwhar

DoG has eaten
many gods actually

[shut tide]

do you?

[shut tide]

^

[brazen ice]

I might need to re read the lore

[mighty zenith]

im gonna guess you're thinking of old lore

[shut tide]

DoG has killed a bunch of gods, and probbably lost to some

[mighty zenith]

where he just bit deus and thats it

[brazen ice]

Yes

I havent read the new one

[mighty zenith]

yea pretty much everything was rewritten ~a year ago

[brazen ice]

Is there a doc of the new reworked lore?

[mighty zenith]

yep, in pins

[brazen ice]

Imma read it
Tmrw

Does it explain
What is providence?

[mighty zenith]

it explains everything known about her so far

[brazen ice]

Like since the rework made all gods into "gods"
What is Providence?

[cosmic zenith]

Actually, no
In earlier drafts of Draetalk's DoG entry, it was mentioned that no God has ever escaped DoG's grip

[shut tide]

Ah i see thank you

[cosmic zenith]

A Goddess (a being who consumed an Auric soul)

[brazen ice]

So same status as Xeroc and the other ascended peeps?

[shut tide]

Is provi getting stronger at night non canon to the lore?

[shut tide]

Yes

[cosmic zenith]

Yes

[brazen ice]

What is she, pre-auric then?

[cosmic zenith]

It's not canonically explained, but it is explainable

[cosmic zenith]

A human

[brazen ice]

Aah

[shut tide]

All gods but silva (as far as we know) were humans pre ascension

[mighty zenith]

tyrian and otonilou were ilmerians but yea

[shut tide]

Ah right those guys

[cosmic zenith]

Otonilou (Goddess of Electricity) and Tyrian (God of the Seas) were Ilmerians, yes

They and Silva are the exceptions among known Gods

[brazen ice]

I havent have access to DRAE-talk so my knowledge of Calamity Lore is pre-rework

[shut tide]

I would read the lore docs in pins

then go do drae talk

[mighty zenith]

all the lore items that drop from bosses got rewritten btw

[cosmic zenith]

^

[brazen ice]

Not rn
Brain is mush
And its late

[royal crater]

Will DoG's loyality to someone be ever explained? Or will it stay a mystery forever? It's obviously has something to do with Noxus, but he might not be added.

[cosmic zenith]

That is, if you don't wanna read the entries ingame

[mighty zenith]

noxus is a canon character

they may not be added as a boss fight but they'll still exist

[shut tide]

And before anyone asks, Noxus is NOT a god

Same with Deus

[brazen ice]

Doesn't help the fact that it is under the perspective of Yharim

[mighty zenith]

even with his biases

they give useful info

you just gotta read them with a pinch of salt

[cosmic zenith]

It's Noxus
And while Noxus may not be added as a boss, we definitely want to add him, and he will definitely have presence in the lore

[brazen ice]

Its more like a diary

[mighty zenith]

not really, he's talking to you in real time

like celebrating provi's death

[brazen ice]

wait what

[civic salmon]

Dev statement says we won't kill Xeroc. Dunno about Noxus

[mighty zenith]

or being surprised at permafrost being alive

[brazen ice]

So Yharim knows us
And is directly speaking to us?

[cosmic zenith]

Yes

[brazen ice]

I see
The more u know

I thought those things are his diaries or something

[mighty zenith]

yeah they're pretty weird when you think about them

thats why the devs wanna change the method of getting that info

[brazen ice]

...speaking of which
Is the Terrarian actually the good guy?

[mighty zenith]

rather than weird swirly things that drop from bosses

[civic salmon]

yharim whispering the sick lore drops into our ears

[mighty zenith]

that's completely up to you

[civic salmon]

Everything about the Terrarian is left to headcanon

[mighty zenith]

the terrarian is a blank slate for you to shape into whatever you want

[brazen ice]

So the Terrarian could be facing against Yharim
All for the sake of either to bring justice to the tyrant, or replace one tyrant with another, or even just for shiz and giggles??

[mighty zenith]

yep

[shut tide]

Up to you

[brazen ice]

Well then

[shut tide]

the terrarian could be some random person who decided to go fight gods

[wheat walrus]

bribro

[mighty zenith]

haii

[brazen ice]

So whatsup with cthulhu with the new lore

[mighty zenith]

he doesnt exist

[brazen ice]

Omg is that calamitas from the modded hit game terraria calamity???

[brazen ice]

Wh

What the hell is Moon Lord then

[mighty zenith]

a really really powerful space squid

basically

[brazen ice]

...srly?

[shut tide]

Moon Lord (formely Fovos)

[brazen ice]

What about Lunatic then?

[mighty zenith]

leader of a dragon cult

hates fovos, worked with yharim

[brazen ice]

They want to revive the dragon species?

[mighty zenith]

Most likely yea

[brazen ice]

Whats with the pillars then

[shut tide]

Fovos (moon lord) was responsible for nearly wiping out the dragons (if i remember right)

[mighty zenith]

They don't have public lore (yet)

[shut tide]

He was sealed away on the moon, and then the terrarian fucking kills them for shits and giggles

[brazen ice]

Fr fr

[mighty zenith]

moon lord is basically the driving force for the entire story

him showing up on terraria butterfly effected basically everything

[violet timber]

Shame there hasnt been a true Cthulhu final superboss yet

all we have to work with is moon lord

but it suffices

[mighty zenith]

fovos superboss addon.......

[brazen ice]

Is Providence still potentially the most strongest god to ever exist within the calamity lore?

[mighty zenith]

nope, that's xeroc

provi is one of the strongest gods though

xeroc is just
out of everyone's league entirely

[brazen ice]

[violet timber]

We need more superboss rants

Xeroc ranting about the rod of harmony for a minute was funny

[graceful otter]

"my robots can surpass ALL GODS"

"lmao this dipshit doesnt know xeroc exists"

[wheat walrus]

the league of legends:

[real silo]

Smth smth ML's army

[mighty zenith]

[wheat walrus]

no

[brazen ice]

Wait
If we are talking to Yharim
Can't we just chill
With the tyrant? Just like how we chill with Draedle

[wheat walrus]

that's not Xeroc

I'm gonna

utterly destroy you down to your concept

[mighty zenith]

i mean
by the time you can reach him

you'd have killed his closest friend

[real silo]

how conceptious

[violet timber]

Nameless Deity, same tomato

[mighty zenith]

i dont think he'd want to hang out

[mighty zenith]

❌

[brazen ice]

:[

[violet timber]

Then what are they

[random flicker]

Yharim ranting about your knock off auric Tesla armor when

[wheat walrus]

Xeroc is not the Nameless Deity the youtube propaganda is not real

[mighty zenith]

nameless is like an omnipotent creator-god type of thing

[wheat walrus]

at least

[real silo]

Me when the boss without the same name isn't the same as another boss with a different name

[brazen ice]

But isn't Yharon practically immortal?
That we can farm for auric souls

[wheat walrus]

not the current lore Xeroc

[brazen ice]

Wait does that make the Terrarian a god

[violet timber]

Of course youtube is like this

[wheat walrus]

ND is at best an old iteration of Xeroc, and being more realistic it's different than that as well

[mighty zenith]

xeroc is a person that ascended into godhood with an auric soul but is nowhere near omnipotence or anything like that

[wheat walrus]

current lore Xeroc has no connections to nameless deity aside from the primordial light symbol

[mighty zenith]

they're vastly different characters

[real silo]

the yharon soul fragments are like tiny bread crumbs compared to the loaf of an auric soul

[brazen ice]

I see

[violet timber]

I'm just gonna refer to that superboss as john doe then

[tall delta]

money

[brazen ice]

[violet timber]

Since John Doe is a name used for those with no idenity

[brazen ice]

Again, isn't Yharon immortal?
Cuz
Its
Literally
In the name? Dragon of Rebirth?

[mighty zenith]

he is immortal yes

but yharim isnt

[brazen ice]

Then
We cool with Yharim? :D

[mighty zenith]

and it takes yharon several years to rebirth

[graceful otter]

it takes yharon a long time to rebirth

[mighty zenith]

and yharim is gonna die either from us or old age by the time yharon is back

[brazen ice]

O h

[brazen ice]

Well
Now am depressed

[graceful otter]

you shouldnt be

[mighty zenith]

dont worry they're both genocidal psychopaths 😊

[royal crater]

I'm pretty sure the rebirth cycle stops once soul is consumed

[graceful otter]

you killed someone who encouraged genocide

[solar wharf]

noxus yes, xeroc fuck no

[brazen ice]

But
Yharon is just a good boi :[

[real silo]

You shouldn't be depressed over auric hitler dying of old age

[solar wharf]

the player is never gonna be able to beat xeroc

[graceful otter]

he is the opposite of a "good boi"

[solar wharf]

or atleast we were told

[brazen ice]

Who cares about Yharim
I likey Yharon

[solar wharf]

the player is however gonna beat noxus if it does get dded

[mighty zenith]

he's a fluffy boy but he also caused an 100-year long war leading to the genocides of hundreds of thousands

[solar wharf]

added*

[brazen ice]

But hey
Atleast he's fluffy
And a good boi

[violet timber]

John Doe is very weird with their many forms, funny how some of them dont have a censor

[solar wharf]

yharon is the one that convinced yharim to do all of this...

[brazen ice]

...

Atleast he's fluffy?...

[solar wharf]

yeah but like

theres other fluffy creatures

[real silo]

he will never be fluffy9431

[solar wharf]

yharon is like... very evil fluffness

[mighty zenith]

@ fluffy

come here they're talking about you

[brazen ice]

I feel less bad now

Is there anything not so depressing about Calamity?

[mighty zenith]

aureus

:3

[brazen ice]

Or morally evil

[mighty zenith]

precious boy

[brazen ice]

He has aids tho

[mighty zenith]

okay but genuinely

deus gets a happy end

since instead of brutally murdering him

we free him from the infection

[solar wharf]

aquatic scourge is confirmed to be passive and very useful for its ecosystem

[violet timber]

When they make Yharim a boss I will kill/defeat him over and over again

[solar wharf]

hes an actual good boy

[violet timber]

A thousand times will not be enough

[solar wharf]

or girl ig

[brazen ice]

But he's in constant agony and is a mistake to exist

[solar wharf]

he isnt in constant agony

he adapted pretty well

[real silo]

Infernum propaganda

[solar wharf]

pretty sure only like old duke is in agony

[brazen ice]

Oh wait
Yah thats infernum stuff

[real silo]

mold duke also adapted

[solar wharf]

o

[real silo]

I'm guessing that's why he has the wrinkles

[mighty zenith]

pbg is in constant agony :D

[real silo]

Just like other ss creatures

[solar wharf]

:3

[real silo]

can't be in constant agony if you have no nerves

[violet timber]

Theres mental agony

[brazen ice]

But she do be cool lookin

[real silo]

bees have stupid brains...

and well brians are still part of the nervous system

So if no nerve then no brain

[mighty zenith]

i receive:
-your free will and ability to live peacefully

you receive:
-cool armor and nukes

[spring helm]

Me and the PBG I made by violating the sanctity of nature

[brazen ice]

Geneva convention? More like Geneva suggestion

[real silo]

me turning the fucked up plague nanomachine into an anime girl summon

Ok sorry virili is nowhere near anime girl

[spring helm]

what are you talking about

[real silo]

the weapon

[mighty zenith]

infected remote

[brazen ice]

But wait
Is there any canonical explanation
About the Primordial Wyrm?

[mighty zenith]

yes

[real silo]

explanation for what

[brazen ice]

Why the fuck is it so powerful

[violet timber]

Chaotic energy summons them, just like another mod I know

[mighty zenith]

he's an old-as-hell offshoot of auric dragons

[brazen ice]

Ooooh

[mighty zenith]

older than yharon

[real silo]

mix of being a strong species + blessed by strong god

[mighty zenith]

and he was blessed by silva yea

[solar wharf]

hes the first generation which means his blood is heavily pure

doesnt have an auric soul but dragons are still pretty powerful without it

[brazen ice]

Why does Duke Fishron even exist
He looks like an inbred dragon

[solar wharf]

he is a dragon

[spring helm]

cute and funny

[brazen ice]

Can he potentially outclass DoG
Canoncially

[shut tide]

Primordial Wyrm, protects the terminus from what we assume is Xeroc, and goes after any form of usurped light

[solar wharf]

PW?

[brazen ice]

Has fly swatter for wings

[solar wharf]

he outclasses yharon himself

[spring helm]

primordial wyrm is like
stronger than yharon

[shut tide]

Dunno since DoG is fucking dead now

[brazen ice]

Touché

[solar wharf]

^

[brazen ice]

Touché pt. 2

[graceful otter]

primordial wyrm is a boss (tho its hidden from boss checklist) which means it can beat anything before it

[spring helm]

built different, no need for auric nonsense

just age

[solar wharf]

and if we go off of FAQ, which claims to use dev statements (if you trust pusheen ig), it claims PW > calamitas and exo mechs

[spring helm]

(and a little planty mush)

[brazen ice]

I can perfectly see why

Wait a minute
By the laws of nature
How did that thing even live

[spring helm]

trying to true melee PW is headache inducing

all he does is run away from me

[solar wharf]

goddess of lifde

life*

silva

[mighty zenith]

the same way the other abyss creatures lived

silva

[shut tide]

^

[solar wharf]

• i would also assume dragons have huge life spans by itself so

[brazen ice]

But he's bigger than DoG
Bigger body + bigger metabolism

[shut tide]

It could be a herbivore

[solar wharf]

ye but goddess of life is like... the entire reason the abyss even has life

[mighty zenith]

canonically DoG is larger

cause his resprite

[shut tide]

If you think about it, Wyrms are passive till you either enrage it or use RoD (a crime against wyrm kind)

[mighty zenith]

which is like three times the size of PW

[shut tide]

That begs the question, why does PW spawn when you use RoD?

Or is that just for gameplay

[mighty zenith]

something something RoD = primordial light

[spring helm]

i am eagerly awaiting the DoG that pierces the cosmos

[brazen ice]

I really like the Wyrms
They are mesmerizing
Just chillin
Curiously watching what ur doin

[spring helm]

PW hates the primordial light
here's why:

[brazen ice]

I hate my humor

[solar wharf]

LMAO

they should hire popcorns to draw explainations

of why somethings are the way they are

[brazen ice]

Speaking of which
Is the eye on the background actually Xeroc watching over us?

[solar wharf]

explanations*

[shut tide]

Boss rush?

[spring helm]

yeah that's his eye or something

[brazen ice]

Yah

[shut tide]

Yes

You summon xeroc through the terminus

[brazen ice]

Can we like
Poke it
And say just a prank bro

[shut tide]

then he goes "oh shit a mortal, your kinda strong wanna see some fun shit"

[spring helm]

i assume he's just watching all the time since xeroc knows all the bosses you fight well enough to recreate them

[mighty zenith]

that's the primordial light sigil

[graceful otter]

the "eye" is the primordial light sigil

[mighty zenith]

he does watch you during the boss rush

[shut tide]

He states he has seen glimpses of your journey

I mean killing a god doesnt go unnoticed

[spring helm]

he only tunes in for the exciting boss fights

[mighty zenith]

i like to imagine he heard of us when we killed moon lord

[solar wharf]

bro you cant even live in peace in that world, bros be stalkin, yharim, draedon, xeroc

like come on

cant a man chill?

[brazen ice]

He only sees the bossfights
And not ur hours worth of building snd grinding

[spring helm]

"terrarian is building a house, i'll come back later"

[brazen ice]

He watch us like a livestream

[shut tide]

Xeroc watching someone make a giant castle for no reason

[graceful otter]

hm

i should work on the relationship chart again

[mighty zenith]

damn xeroc cant enjoy the playthrough properly......

[graceful otter]

draetalk means i can connect like 20 more things to draedon

[random flicker]

"chat I'll gift 50 subs if a bloodmoon happens"

[solar wharf]

"terrarain, do YOU really fucking need a room for the stylist??? stop building that shit and go fight some cool ass boss"

[spring helm]

spawn into the world, boom Yharim's watching you
get a heart crystal, boom Eye of Cthullu's watching you
beat Aureus, boom Draedon's watching you
fighting any boss, boom Xeroc's watching you

[mighty zenith]

i still havent read draetalk

[brazen ice]

Same

[solar wharf]

cant even fight a boss in peace man, you gotta put up a performance, last thing i want is draedon saying "yo... you fight like a bitch"

[spring helm]

he gives the first bits of a timeline

so far

[graceful otter]

also i just realised rotdog might be a thing from the corruption

kinda like how demon eyes are a thing from the crimson

[brazen ice]

I like how the Terrarian is by far the strongest mortal
Since they can go naked and breathe in the crispy air of crimson, corruption, and astral without getting stage 5 ebola or soemthin

[spring helm]

Xeroc watching the Terrarian build a castle in 12 hours: " 🥱 i'mma tune this one out"
Xeroc watching the Terrarian beat up a depressed PTSD riddled woman: "This is prime time entertainment!"

[solar wharf]

xeroc does not want to watch the DIY terrarain videos :((

[brazen ice]

I like to imagine Xeroc with a popcorn seeing Yharim's war as if it was a chess match

[solar wharf]

he does not want to know how to DIY a castle

[brazen ice]

I wish the Terrarian gets strong enough
To be able to poke Xeroc's eye on the bossrush event

[spring helm]

Noxus and Xeroc in space making bets on who's winning the match of the century
"Terrarian's got this, they're like that."
"Nuh-uh, Yharim's got way more experience!"

[solar wharf]

when the terrarain wins, you hear a very far away and faint

"I TOLD YOU SO"

[brazen ice]

They watch in horror as the Terrarian start to unleash some sealed evils just to eat them alive
And snort some Yharon soul fragment

[spring helm]

in the chat purple text shows up

Noxus has made $15

[wheat walrus]

With a what?!

[solar wharf]

LMAO

[spring helm]

yo

i'm in the game!

[brazen ice]

Omg is that calamitas from the hit game-

[wheat walrus]

Hit mod

[brazen ice]

Hit modded game

[trim edge]

holy shit it's kilometres!

[mighty zenith]

faust-type shit

[brazen ice]

Is Yharim still egotistical
Or actually regrets everything and whatever the Terrarian does to destroy Yharim's chances to ascend and goes "aight I deserve that"

[mighty zenith]

1. yes
2. yharim doesnt want to ascend

[trim edge]

he regrets not being able to kill all the gods

[spring helm]

yharim does not regret comitting genocide

bro's like Andrew Jackson
A life of killing people, and his only regrets are that he didn't get to kill more

[brazen ice]

Fair enough
I though Yharim was now a sad villain in the rework
Ig he's still him

[spring helm]

he is sad

[brazen ice]

But evil sad

[spring helm]

because everyone left his army and he can't kill gods

[graceful otter]

he tries to be sympathetic, acting like the hero who fell from grace, but if you read into it, he was always a dick

[shut tide]

He still loves bees though

[brazen ice]

Draedon left Yharim's army?
Or did Yharim dismiss Draedon

[graceful otter]

he does love bees tho,,,,,

[shut tide]

Dismissed

[trim edge]

his original motives made sense and killing the crimson/corruption gods would even be heroic
but then genocide go brrr

[brazen ice]

No wonder he hates Draedon

[shut tide]

Draedon made PGB and The plague and yharim lost his shit

and went "nah im fucking done with you", and destroys part of his lab, which is why the jungle lab is damaged

thanks to yharim

(source from drae talk)

[trim edge]

draetalk tells us that yharim went to draedon to improve his armour after the pbg incident? which is interesting

[graceful otter]

yes

[brazen ice]

Didn't Yharim got suspicious/hesitant about Draedon before the plague thingy

[spring helm]

Yharim has some morals, hypocritical as they are. So when Draedon made the PBG and plague, he crossed one of Yharim's lines

[graceful otter]

yharim also gets information about the astral from draedon

[brazen ice]

"I hate you for this, I'm going to cut ties with you and never return."

"But could you do me one more favor?"

[trim edge]

so yharim knows he's fucked up
and he lies to us about completely dismissing draedon after the pbg incident to appear more sympathetic

[spring helm]

yeah, he fires draedon by punching a hole in his lab, then gets almost killed by Braelor and Statis, hears about Draedon's new exotech, and comes to Draedon to get an upgrade

[graceful otter]

he didnt lie, he was actually fired. yharim just

commissioned him

see its different now

[trim edge]

i stopped making requests of draedon
uhhhhhh this wasn't a request this was uhhhhh

[spring helm]

"I NEVER WANT TO SEE YOUR ASS AGAIN DRAEDON!"
two years later
"Heyyyyy bestieeee...."

[brazen ice]

Real

"You've come to my lab"
"Destroy my stuff"
"And want me to upgrade your armor???"

[trim edge]

yharim just can't get over his ex

[crimson finch]

I like to think of it as a “You owe me” like how muscle man has people who owe him

[spring helm]

owe him for what? Draedon fulfilled his contract in its entirety

[trim edge]

yharim didn't make a request of draedon, he generously offered him the opportunity to work with auric, and the armour was just a byproduct

[spring helm]

Not Draedon's fault that Yharim, despite the genocide and warcrimes, arbitrarily drew a line at enslaving animals

[trim edge]

auric quantum cooling cell requires mock attuned auric bars
does this mean draedon had access to dragon souls to design this

[brazen ice]

I want to see Draedon's actual 1v1 with the Terrarian goes like:
insert cool opening

"I've known alot since our first encounter. Now, witness the marvel of my genius, and prepare to die!"

proceeds to trip and fall to his death

[solar wharf]

i'd assume thats our invention

[spring helm]

personally i think that yharim can choose if his armour rejects something or not

which allowed draedon to work with the armour

[spring helm]

play getfixedboi and watch draedon pull his laser rifle on you while you fight his exo mechs

[brazen ice]

He has a fuckin gun

[spring helm]

yeah

[brazen ice]

I am hoenstly curious what can he come up with since the Exo Mechs supposed to be his best creation that can rival the destructive capabilities of a god

[spring helm]

\

bro's not holding back with it

[brazen ice]

He fucking pulls out a glock when we get to fight him

[shut tide]

gfb draedon

Mf holds a rifle and isnt afraid

[brazen ice]

Cant even hurt him

[spring helm]

betfixedboi nameless deity

[solar wharf]

wait what weapon is it?

[spring helm]

pulse rifle

since the phaseslayer is canon, i wanna see draedon hold it like Samuel Hayden at the end of DOOM(2016)

[brazen ice]

Speaking of draedon weapons
Why do ppl dismiss and never used/recommend them?

[spring helm]

they're not that good compared to other weapons

[brazen ice]

Isn't
Draedon supposed to cook up good weapons

[spring helm]

yeah

[brazen ice]

Why did he not cook

[civic salmon]

Pulse Pistol hard carried my magic run through most of Death Mode Pre-Hardmode

[spring helm]

fair enough

i'm not too knowledgable on the non-melee weapons

[civic salmon]

But yeah I didnt use any of them for my ExRev Ranger playthrough

I tried Anomaly's Nanogun for Exo Mechs but didnt end up clearing with it

I guess it kinda makes sense that the mass produced weapons arent amazing but

Gameplay wise kind of a bummer

[solar wharf]

they arent worthwhile ranger wise

gauss laser rifle ig isnt all that bad but its not really the best

[spring helm]

then again, even the tier 4 stuff was probably more than enough considering the strength of the average god

there's also cost to consider since you had to make enough equip armies

and the stronger weapons took more power, so you have to account for transportation of power cells too

[solar wharf]

i'd assume tier 4

weaponry

were for like

the elites of yharims army

[civic salmon]

Yeah probably just for the Godslayer knights or whatever

Or maybe they didnt even get made, just designed

[spring helm]

yeah the godseeker knights got the tier 4 stuff

i assume the tier 5 stuff is just blueprints that never got made (except his pulse rifle)

[untold moss]

posting this in lore because it’s fairly relevant: currently rebuilding azafure solely to make scal proud

[mossy pond]

ermmm why is matter being heavily impacted by the pauli exclusion principle typing??

[untold moss]

started with the supports and now im moving onto a comprehensive plumbing system to regulate lava levels

(this is all to house a single gay couple btw)

[civic salmon]

who are you condemning to the crags

[crimson finch]

Are you suggesting Calamitas and Brimstone are a gay couple

That got in a heated argument

Heh

heated

[untold moss]

lol that’d be funny

[untold moss]

ayyyy

but

[crimson finch]

Unintentional but funny

[untold moss]

demolitionist like underground, brimstone crag is underground, ergo he and the tavernkeep can have the whole place to themselves

[crimson finch]

Oh

OOHHHH

https://tenor.com/view/cool-explosion-explode-watermelon-gif-12269378

[cold owl]

This is what Yharim should have done instead of just blaming ppl and killing more ppl.

[untold moss]

demolitionist and tavernkeep (the former really likes hell)

[untold moss]

in yharim’s defense, he never had prescription stimulants so there’s that

[pliant ruin]

yharim will beblown up in 3 seconds

[untold moss]

i just hope i finish this project before the terraria phase dies

[pliant ruin]

real

me when i am hyperfixating on (thing) and start project on (thing) but then the (thing) hyperfixation dies before i finish the project on (thing)

[cold owl]

Didn't have his stero- I mean medicine

[cold owl]

Lock-in

[untold moss]

lmao

[pliant ruin]

yharim take ur meds yharim

take them

gods arent real

take ur meds

[crimson finch]

Also why the hell did Draedon mechanize the bees

[untold moss]

yharim would have been unstoppable with ritalin

[crimson finch]

Yharim if he took Tylenol instead of revenge on the gods

His Boo-Boos wouldn’t hurt that much

[civic salmon]

He did though, but they were removed :(

[cold owl]

The story of calamity just takes place in Yharim's delusional mind while he's in one of those rubber rooms.

[crimson finch]

Now I’m thinking that Draedon and the Exo-Mechs were like his medical equipment and he’s in a coma

[pliant ruin]

cuz he wanted to turn living organisms into war machines as part of a experiment

[hushed geyser]

Calamity sleep theory

[crimson finch]

Fovos was like a squid plush

Calamitas and Permafrost mourn their dead friend