suggestions-discussion

[shell glacier]

oh

good

[tardy smelt]

having a good mobility base is a must imo, but past that I'd say that tanking > dps in the long run

since, as you said, you can get away with making more mistakes and playing more riskily if you go tank

[fossil mural]

Dog laser walls made me wish my rogue had more defense lol

You can get away with more mistakes with beefcake melee defense setups , although they need to be spread out because defense damage eats away at you if you get chain hit

[grim tusk]

You could just run spectral veil or abyssal mirror for rogue specific mixed accs
Affliction is goated
Absorber and deific very good
Bloodflare core goated
Astral arcanum and evolution are good

[fossil mural]

I ended up beating dog but I was just so close a few times and then a laser did just enough to kill me

[grim tusk]

Spectral veil doubles as get out of jail free card and better NR at cost of acc slot and as a stealth regen and burst damage (use 2 stealth strikes, regen a bit and teleport into enemy to refill stealth meter) machine
Abyssal mirror is mirrage mirror’s big stealth regen with a dodge and stealth recharge

[fossil mural]

I probably should have tried spectral veil, it may have saved me a lot of headache last night haha

[grim tusk]

And warding reforges help a lot too

[fossil mural]

I think some of my accessories still have lucky on them which is irrelevant with dark gods sheathe and up accessories

Definitely could've optimized a bit more and probably will need to for yharon lol

I also just now realized I forgot to even use blood flare armor I was using tarragon LMAO

Definitely made it harder than it needed to be

[fossil finch]

piss

[fossil finch]

Yeah

[gray nebula]

shut up

[fossil finch]

xd

[drowsy plank]

me when no leaks

[gray nebula]

THERE ARE LEAKS

wtf

[fossil finch]

Ur just too softcore to access them yet

[gaunt tiger]

john wulfrum's legs are getting added

real leak

[quiet kernel]

More use for wulfrum

[fossil finch]

🤨

This sugg has so many things wrong by itself

Changes that require a reload can be accessed anywhere, its just that they require a reload, and i don't even know if this actually does, though this is just a minor thing

You can create an addon of the mod that reverts this changes yes you can

Even then it's not happening

Also "kind of annoying for new players" is just uh

Source?

How are they annoying for new players

Most changes are not things you'd notice at first

[unborn oriole]

They're litterally the opposite

They're helpfull

[fossil finch]

and the ones that are i still wouldn't describe as "annoying

[unborn oriole]

I mean

Better jump

More speed

Better placement speed

And more mining speed i think

How on earth is that annoying

[cobalt pewter]

@rocky surge I think the devs have made it clear that they won't ever make the changes to vanilla toggleable in any way

not sure why it hasn't been in the doc yet

[lavish condor]

I always accidentally place two torches trying to place one, but that's my only gripe with it directly

[unique vector]

i dont know who said that

[cobalt pewter]

hmm

[unique vector]

ive said im against it

[cobalt pewter]

might've been misremembering things then

[unique vector]

but doesnt mean we wont ever do it

[cobalt pewter]

but that said, it's an iffy thing to do regardless

[rocky surge]

If it gets declined I'll make a way to make it happen, at least on my system. It's an annoying thing for things like that to be changed, at least for newer players (source: ran into this a bit much yesterday)

[fossil finch]

Just make an addon

Hell one already exists

[rocky surge]

? torches annoying

[small timber]

the only one they (possibly), by the slim chance, might add as a toggle config is the increased initial speed, mining speed, jump height buff one

[lavish condor]

My main gripe is that things like spawn rates in towns and debuff duration decreases (also objectively making it less annoying) are configable but not this.

[small timber]

but the suggestions, unless it is not intended, is asking for toggle of ALL the vanilla rebalances calamity did, which will include a mass amount of boss tweaks, vanilla enemies rebalance, weapon rebalance and retier... I will not list all but you get the idea

the general thing is when you play calamity do not expect it to "just be vanilla", calamity try to build on its own experience on top of what vanilla provides by rebalancing on itself

[rocky surge]

Obviously it'd be limited to the more obvious and in-your-face stuff. I personally like most of the changes, but would rather play with vanilla meteor armor.

[small timber]

that is the problem, a lot of rebalancing stuff is much more than just "nerfed meteor armor"

calamity balanced this out by although they nerfed meteor armor, they make sure you still have other great armor option available that you will not be forced to use a nerfed option

which is why as stated above, try not to treat calamity as "just vanilla with more bosses"

[drowsy plank]

"please put the objectively broken weapons and items back in and also double all enemy damage again please"

[fossil finch]

🤨

What does that have to do with torches

[rocky surge]

idk had a stroke

[rocky surge]

The biggest thing though is player choice, some people would rather play with some things but want others.

[fossil finch]

yeah but that's an argument that goes in infinite ways

And at the end of the day devs are still making an experience they want people to experience like it was designed

[drowsy plank]

you can make the choice not to play calamity

[small timber]

and it will simply be impossible for devs to make an experience that everyone will prefer

[unique vector]

my take

is that

[small timber]

if a config like that is added, there will be people who want it remove because it breaks part of the experience calamity offer by incentivizing new player to just do the vanilla way instead of adapting

[unique vector]

we accomodate for choices people want

with exceptions

such as

never adding configs to revert weapon removals

probably not adding configs to revert vanilla item balancing

especially weapons

etc

i could see the earlygame speed buffs being a config bc it mechanically changes the game

(and in all honesty i prefer if we added more accessories and utilities than just outright buffing speed but)

[rocky surge]

OR there could be a way to change the mod a small amount which allows players to play the way they prefer

[fossil finch]

what is a small ammount

Isn't what is already toggeable a small ammount

This is a fair argument but at the same time i think it falls into being a slippery slope

[drowsy plank]

just make a small change to remove literally every change to vanilla so that the modded choices actually have a chance to stand up to the completely busted options in vanilla. simple

all the important stuff that could cause mod conflicts is already togglable, and it's not like you're asking for the acceleration changes or building/mining speed, which could possibly cause mod conflicts. you're asking for things like meteor armor and soaring insignia to be unnerfed, in which case.

just play vanilla

[fossil finch]

At the end of the day it all falls into how much devs want the experience to be malleable to the player's choices

Stuff like the expert debuff duration change, the ice water change and the town spawns are very minor compared to balancing or mechanical changes

[small timber]

(also I just realise the suggestion itself actually didn't provide any reasoning, just 'I dont like the changes and there is a lack of toggle for these changes, there should be one'), so ya regardless, at least add a sound reasoning for the suggestion to be valid

because the suggestion is not exactly for the purpose of mod conflict, but just to revert calamity vanilla balancing to its vanilla stat, so the 'the suggestion explain itself' dont really work

[rocky surge]

"...around for a while, but they are kind-of annoying for new players..."
there's not much reasoning behind the suggestion other than this. some of the changes are really annoying for some people, so those people should be able to un-change them.
Since we can't make our own (legal) forks of the mod, a toggle in the main branch is the only way.

[small timber]

annoying is a bit too subjective I feel, since there will be people who hate the changes, people who are annoyed by it, but also people who absolutely love it

[fossil finch]

U don't need to make a fork to revert this changes

[small timber]

and regarding the add-on thing, I will assume you can like, just do it?

[fossil finch]

you can indeed

Tmod has its own system for this

You don't need to have access to the github

An addon already exists

I don't know the extent of its changes but it reverts insignia

[small timber]

ya I will be honest I imagine there are already people who have addon like these, like insignia revert, meteor armor and zenith revert for calamity and so on

since it is (not happening tbh) anyway through the main mod, might as well try it

[fossil finch]

Also "it's annoying for a small group of people" is not very strong reasoning anyways

[grim tusk]

“And nerf every vanilla item that Calamity buffs so that they become more redundant”

[unborn oriole]

Reminds me of

[drowsy plank]

so true!

[misty laurel]

Malachite is overpowered, i just destroyed providence with it (on death mode btw) and its a post golem weapon, it also completely destroyed moon lord. i could easily achieve 10k+ dps with pre moon lord gear. So yeah if any testers are here, take a look at it again because its busted.

[gaunt tiger]

can a tester take a look at blade staff? I think it might need a fly speed increase

[unique vector]

@eternal escarp

[eternal escarp]

i think i suggested that when i tested it

either way im heading to sleep rn so yea

[unique vector]

donk

[gaunt tiger]

get donked

dummy

[grim tusk]

I also found Malachite too be quite op, but I was nohitting and using odd mushroom so thought it was that, I’ll take a look tmrw. Its supposed to be strong but not too strong as its after all a legendary (and rare).

[grave zinc]

@spice bolt - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Rework Exoblade because it’s borderline useless and boring right now]

It has officially been implemented into the game, and will be available in the next update!
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

[west zenith]

Add a Tradution Pt-BR for calamity because know 100% of english in brasil is not easy, make a partnership with a br translator to help

[fossil finch]

POGGING

[fossil finch]

just use the br's translator mod

they wont make it official

[west zenith]

but ins't official

[fossil finch]

and they wont make it official

they will leave it to addons

[west zenith]

is because i have fear to install a virus

[fossil finch]

its literally in the browser

nothing in the browser is a virus

why would you trust the translator to help but not that their mod is a not a virus

xd

[drowsy plank]

exoblade rework

[west zenith]

seriously ?

[frail mantle]

yes

[drowsy plank]

bro do you think tmod has literally no quality assurance or something

[frail mantle]

if you can find it on the browser it's safe

[west zenith]

ye it was before I heard this

[keen zealot]

it's literally the other way around

there are maaaaybe 10 items that calamity nerfs

the rest are insane ridiculous buffs so that they can keep up with calamity options

[gusty burrow]

the biggest thing is not player choice

it is the dev’s vision

[gusty burrow]

exactly, so many vanilla weapons (mainly all of true melee) has been buffed to actually be viable

[keen zealot]

although they also gave everything useturn which really pisses me off

[gusty burrow]

what’s useturn

[keen zealot]

the property that allows you to turn around while swinging a sword

[novel belfry]

It's not as useful as it seems

[keen zealot]

yeah

it's really annoying especially with high knockback swords because you can be slightly retreating from an enemy and accidentally hit it into you

[gusty burrow]

what do the colors in #suggestions-voting mean

[keen zealot]

check pins

[gusty burrow]

i did

i cannot find it

[keen zealot]

the colours directly represent the reactions given

[drowsy plank]

id rather have useturn on and have them be viable on bosses and deal with that then go back to when 90% of true melee swords were basically not viable because of how awkward the positioning was

@silent briar https://calamitymod.wiki.gg/wiki/Martian_Distress_Beacon

if you could delete your sugg that'd be appreciated too

[novel belfry]

in that case, perhaps a toggle might help A LOT

this is a situation where its less of balancing and more of personal choice

[subtle sapphire]

I think an item to favorite would be better than a toggle

It's a mechanical thing

[novel belfry]

i guess that is a toggle? still works

[spice bolt]

pog

[subtle sapphire]

oh my bad then, I thought you meant a toggle in the mod config

[keen zealot]

well

they did

but a toggle is the same whether it's in mod options or ingame

still just a toggle

and I would VERY like there to be one because playing true melee is extremely annoying for me right now

[subtle sapphire]

Meh, I feel like it's more "elegant" if it's an item if it's something that's important to gameplay ?

though that's probably subjective

[keen zealot]

that is very subjective yes

[gray nebula]

what do you mean a toggle for useturn

[subtle sapphire]

but like, for me options are, well, options. You shouldn't have to go look at them to play

[gray nebula]

thatd be weird

[keen zealot]

some of us hate useturn and some of us apparently like it?

[fossil finch]

useturn makes moonwalking impossible

That's it for a toggle

[gray nebula]

brep

it feels weird

same goes for toggle for autoreuse like am i right

wulfrum blunderbuss when it DOESNT have autoreuse checkmate

[keen zealot]

depending on how you use the sword both useturn on and off can cause you to hit enemies into yourself accidentally

which one is better for you is entirely playstyle dependant

not to mention useturn on makes fighting wof true melee really annoying

and that's why there should be a toggle for it

[keen zealot]

never thought of it like that

I MUST always check options because sometimes there'll be something really important in there, like control rebinds that I need to change because my hands require unorthodox control schemes

or like, a visual setting that I don't like

and in this case gameplay stuff that can really bother me

[unborn oriole]

@silent briar there already is

Buy it from the Cyborg

After Golem

[drowsy plank]

yeah i already pinged the guy with the wiki link, he just disappeared after posting tho so we gotta wait for a mod to flag it or smthn

[fossil finch]

you can call rover if you feel its going late

what lore implications

there is no lore implications on doing anything here because youll access the npc anyways

and thats what is canon

this will never pass

[crude geode]

bruh this isn't undertale

[fossil finch]

also like you already spare her as it is rn

because she very obviously doesnt die

[drowsy plank]

give the player the option to fucking murder scal

[smoky osprey]

yeah I said sparing her is the same thing as it is right now. The "lore implications" is the player coming to a realization on why they are killing bosses.

[drowsy plank]

i know why im killing bosses

its fun

[dense ferry]

Yharon's fight never raises that question. Infact, it doesn't raise an ounce of a question

[fossil finch]

locking unknowing players out of enchantments until they refight her for literally no reason is stupid as hell

also i dont think killing scal or not would answer that question or settle the debate at all

yharon's fight as much may raise just hype for yharim because of the lore item

[dense ferry]

And there isn't even an advantage of killing SCal

It's just "you have more drops"

[fossil finch]

the first time i read it i interpreted it as yharim knowing he wouldn't go much longer alive

[crude geode]

people really love the idea of sparing bosses in terraria despite 99.9% of them not deserving it

[drowsy plank]

spare crabulon and then he fucking eats you because he's a wild animal

[smoky osprey]

you already spare Scal in calamity

[dense ferry]

Exactly

Then why the fuck would you kill her?

It's just adding a choice for the sake of it

And being like Undertale

[fossil finch]

the consequences of killing things that didn't really matter that much or didn't really deserve a lot of mercy it's not really an argument you can make

also if anything most players would answer the question as "to progress(fight yharim ultimately and make everyone happy and overthrown him as tyrant

and thats only if they know or care about lore as a whole

[drowsy plank]

undertale is a good game but if u want more involved lore just play split or something

it's okay to have a game where you just kill the enemies sometimes

[fossil finch]

what was split lore again

[drowsy plank]

idfk i just know their bosses talk and the bosses can be found later as NPCs

[fossil finch]

vulkan created annoying and melodramatic with epic backstory
melodramatic died horribly because annoying was too annoying
something about

wait crossmodding is canon

what the fuck

anyways for mods with narratives uuh

play mor in like a year or two

[drowsy plank]

true!

[crude geode]

mor pog

[silent briar]

oh I couldn't find it lol, ty

[hollow shell]

Ok yeah I felt like it sounded familiar
https://calamitymod.wiki.gg/wiki/Martian_Distress_Beacon

Also Undertaaaaaaaaaaaaale

[dense ferry]

OoooOoooOooOooOoOoOh

Story of Undertale

[dry scaffold]

Its vanilla

[hollow shell]

I literally just linked to Calamity's page for it

[warped tide]

by extension maybe the Draedon’s hologram can be spared too or something lmao

[subtle sapphire]

Lemme spare the boss rush. All of it.

[unborn oriole]

Undertale suggestion

[subtle sapphire]

I wonder what a narrative game based on terraria would be like. Honestly it kinda sounds fun. But it's certainly not this mod's work lol

[unborn oriole]

Yeah

Go play Red cloud or something for that

Idk

[small timber]

I mean if you kill her the entire scal npc (and the refight messages) will no longer make sense

So if a kill option is added you literally have to remove calamitas npc and all the refight dialogue to just make it not happen

[safe oasis]

already real (the story of red cloud mod+adventure map)

(it’s dark souls inspired)

[distant bear]

So I'm playing with Overhaul and Calamity, and Overhaul adds the right click killing blow thing, but the Biome Blade requires you to stand still to attune it, so you can't attune it, I was thinking maybe being able to rebind the attuning to a different button, what's you people's opinion on this?

[small timber]

overhaul and calamity is like, one of the most incompatible thing you can do

I mean chances are you probably have to just rebind your right click, I dont see other way around it

[distant bear]

I tried rebinding, and the killing blow was still on the same button as attuning

[keen zealot]

they're both bound to m2

it is literally impossible

[distant bear]

Yeah

[keen zealot]

do not play overhaul with other mods it breaks EVERYTHING

[distant bear]

Sad

The swing is super fun to play with

[small timber]

@dire gazelle ok, I dont know how to like, put it in a non-rude way, but the suggestion have several problem:

1. voice acting in terraria will sounds like, ultra-cringe, especially if you put it in the middle of the combat
2. DoG is a worm not a human, if it has some monstrous roaring sound it will be fitting, not actual voice acting
3. there is no other boss that have voice acting, not even Draedon and Scal who are clearly humanoid (because as stated, giving them voice acting will be cringe), let alone a boss that is not even the final bosses

the reason the current DoG's dialogue work is exactly that it has no voice acting, so we can completely disregard all of these context, even the fact that it is a speaking worm

[dire gazelle]

I respect it, I just like to give him voices in my head and thought it would be cool

[small timber]

ya, mostly just I dont think it fit terraria tbh

I think there is a mod that add voice acting, let me find the video, star above I think, and you can use it as a reference (of how voice acting really dont fit)

[dire gazelle]

i play with it

[small timber]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hw_XQYJZ3HY ok this one

it is just, really unnecessary and dont really add anything

[dire gazelle]

thanks for being cool about it though

[unique vector]

what they said

[fringe notch]

They're probably talking about yharons second phase theme

[dense ferry]

Yeah, and it's not canon

[fringe notch]

@dire gazelle it's a hecken wyrm

[fringe notch]

I know I'm just saying that's probably why they were thinking that

[dense ferry]

👍

[frail mantle]

people already feel off about SBC and RotJD having lyrics

[jagged spade]

yeah and i hate people singing rotjd

its just becoming more cringe everytime someone does that

[fossil finch]

Me getting the mile long cosmic eel to shout abfod does not fear death

[ashen warren]

tbt that one mod with voice acting that sounds hilarious and shows why it doesnt work

[frozen hornet]

jetshift.

[grim tusk]

StarsAbove’s voice acting also has problems (playing way too fucking often on boss fights to the point it gets annoying)

But Jetshift is

[misty raft]

bro the malachite is busted

i can reach like 26k dps and im pre lunatic cultists

my friends be dealing only 2-3k dps

[small timber]

somethings are not balanced yet, but ya, I think it is pretty known

[ruby plover]

That’s a malachite issue

Not a class issue

[small timber]

the main point of 1.4 port/ calamity v2.0 is to port the mod, the rebalancing will come after (coming)

[misty raft]

ohhhhh right

[small timber]

also 2-3k dps is like, super low for pre cultist,, but ya malachite is stonk right now

[ruby plover]

@kindred cargo the defence reducing property of plague has been removed. FYI, this also has been removed from astral infection, the calamitas brew version of brimstone flames (abyssal flames I think?) and godslayer inferno

[small timber]

oh you are referring to the suggestion

[kindred cargo]

Oh, I didn't know that. I was using information straight from the wiki; https://calamitymod.fandom.com/wiki/Calamity_Mod_Wiki

[small timber]

ya that is absolutely not a class issue, malachite itself is busted right now (and some specific weapon) and thats about it

[small timber]

that is the outdated wiki, use wiki.gg instead

[small timber]

(and your suggestion need proper title and reasoning, the title is just "other classes" which dont really tell anything)

[ashen warren]

i am said friend i feel like i cant get any higher dps as a summoner

[neat linden]

is that a suggestion or a complaint

cause it doesn't suggest anything :lo:

[neat linden]

what are you even using then

[small timber]

summoner is super busted right now, like broken busted

[kindred cargo]

Gotcha. It looks like the wikis have similar information, but I'll use that one from now on, thanks. Over all, is my suggestion decent?

[small timber]

fyi this is the newest version of buffs

[neat linden]

-5% contact damage? today i learned actually

[small timber]

flower of mortality itself compensate for the less damage, so the only different is -5% contact damage; but I think it is mainly for debuff consistency with the weapon

flower of mortality dont really have anything to do with plague anymore, but it do have link to hallow

[ashen warren]

blade staff and sanguine, anything else recommended for my stage of the game has terrible ai, and the most of the summons they do recommend are sentries

[neat linden]

that's early hardmode summons

[small timber]

for precultist the go-to is resurrection butterfly + wither blossom stuff

and that will like, literally shred everything in sight

[neat linden]

and at your stage you have access to res butterfly and terraprisma

[small timber]

terrarprisma is straight out viable for most post-ML bosses
viable as in it is one of the best weapon for them

[neat linden]

it seems better than ele axes

[ashen warren]

i would go terraprisma if eol wasn't so difficult with multiple players

[small timber]

I think my assumption here is just you should try out more calamity summons, since I assume you only tried summoner weapons from vanilla

you dont have to do daytime eol, just normal eol

[neat linden]

at least you don't have to do day eol

[ashen warren]

because it focuses on one player so everyone else gets hit by stray projectiles

and its master so it takes away like half your health

[neat linden]

so that one person better be good at dodging

[ashen warren]

it will also just change the player its focused on

[small timber]

if you dont want to fight eol this one is definitely just as good

for that stage of the game

[ashen warren]

alr ill check this one out, thanks

[kindred cargo]

I... Can't say that I agree with that statement. Nothing about any of the weapon's components have any correlation to the Hallow. If anything it's closer to the Jungle and the plaguebringers than it is the hallow.

[small timber]

but ya, tldr it is definitely not a glass issue, summoner is extremely overpowered right now in fact, due to whips not balanced yet

[neat linden]

whips aren't the main reason even

especially since the tag doesn't apply correctly

[unborn oriole]

Dude you're playing modded

[small timber]

I think it is just the style of the weapon tbh, since it is one of the elemental weapon

[unborn oriole]

Please, use wither blossoms with butterflies

[small timber]

elemental weapons either inflict holy flame or elemental mix, I assume flowers dont inflict elemental mix because it will be more broken than it is

ya, seeing blade staff + sanguine staff is actually the only viable vanilla summons for that stage of the game, I assume he just only know vanilla summon

which can be the case since in my first playthrough I thought sdmg is the best ranger weapon in the game

[neat linden]

does AotE inflict anything

[unborn oriole]

Damn how did he even get to cultist with those 2 💀

[small timber]

it doesnt, but ya it also dont need it

[small timber]

his friend is using malachite on rogue

[unborn oriole]

Oh yeah

[neat linden]

wait

does elemental mix still actually exist

[unborn oriole]

Yeah

[neat linden]

all i can find about it is in elem ray page

[small timber]

yes, though only very few weapon use it

[neat linden]

and it says "main beam"

[small timber]

and elemental mix is pretty much just, inflict 4 dps debuff now

[ashen warren]

it's my second playthrough so i dont really know the decent weapons

[neat linden]

what counts as a main beam here, all 4 are "main"

[unborn oriole]

Dont worry, i gotcha

Stage of the game rn?

Oh actually

[small timber]

elemental mix used to freeze and stuff, now it is only dps

[unborn oriole]

Dm me so we dont annoy anyone here

[neat linden]

incredible

[small timber]

truly a wiki moment dont actually blame them, this kind of stuff is super missable, especially with many of these changes being retroactive

[neat linden]

i'll ask around about the elemental mix

[kindred cargo]

Well, as I said in my suggestion, i don't really see Flowers of Mortality as an Elemental weapon. Especially not from its components. And, an extra 25 damage per second is hardly anything when enemies have hundreds of thousands of health. As I even said in the suggestion, you'd be looking at maybe an extra 2k on some of the last bosses.

[hollow shell]

@inner anvil Care to balance test Malachite, on behalf of @misty raft?

[neat linden]

they do count as a part of the elemental set, though

[small timber]

I just think it do not have anything to do with plague either, it at least looks like elemental weapon

[neat linden]

follow very similar color schemes and debuffs, as well as the recipes

[small timber]

I think iban posted weapons that count as elemental, sec

[inner anvil]

Sure.

[hollow shell]

Seems like Storm gave it a look a month ago and confirmed it was cracked, but good to have second opinions I spose

[neat linden]

malachite is quite insanely powerful yes

[small timber]

ok I cant ctrl+F it since it is image

[kindred cargo]

How's that, then? I made a small edit to my suggestion.

[small timber]

(or you can just say change it to elemental mix tbh, since it still exist)

since to certain degree the flowers of immortality looks like "purified" wither blossom (plague) weapon, so it kinda make some sense for it to not have plague

[kindred cargo]

Well, i don't want to seem dishonest by rewording/editing the whole thing, that's why I left it as a noticeable edit.

[neat linden]

seems mostly fine

excluding the fact "full elemental mix" doesn't even exist anymore

0 weapons inflict it

[small timber]

not even ele ray? since I dont have the mod that show debuff on boss anymore

[inner anvil]

@hollow shell Veredict by testing it on Duke Fishron and Ravager, with kill-times of 45 and 58 seconds respectively: This weapon's busted.

[neat linden]

it inflicts one of fire debuffs on solar ray explosion, electrified on vortex ray and apparently also celled but not sure where, probably stardust ray

[neat linden]

Test hydraulic volt cr

[small timber]

ok it looks like daybroken, onfire, holy flame and electrified

[hollow shell]

Alrighty, thank you.

[neat linden]

it inflicts daybroken too?

[small timber]

ya, I think one of the ray type do

[neat linden]

either way

elemental mix is dead

[small timber]

ok it might be not daybroken, I dont know what is that

the 4th one

[neat linden]

yeah that's celled

[tulip parcel]

I was happy to see my suggestion got to 100 stars

[neat linden]

holy flames may come from holy wrath potions

[tulip parcel]

Then I read that the new requirement is 200

[frail mantle]

there's no requirement

[small timber]

ok I will get a clean character, no way elemental ray inflict celled

[hollow shell]

Yeah the star "requirement" is dynamic now

[frail mantle]

there's just being in the top 20% in terms of stars count

[neat linden]

the only requirement is be one of the top voted this month

[tulip parcel]

I see

Well here’s hoping

[small timber]

ok elemental ray, in fact, only inflict onfire and celled

even holy flame is just from holy wrath potion

[hollow shell]

You sure it doesn't inflict Electrified?

[small timber]

oh ya electrified too

[hollow shell]

from the Vortex beam

yeah

[small timber]

ya it is 3 (electrified is lower chance)

[fossil mural]

Malachite is stonks

I'm assuming it'll probably be nerfed along with summoner's cracked weapon, terraprisma

[neat linden]

i assume some other weapons will be nerfed alongside them too, like OSGs/HVC etc

[misty raft]

what is the hvc?

[small timber]

hydrolic volt crusher, something like that

[misty raft]

ahh

[small timber]

basically worm boss obliterator

[neat linden]

and large enemy groups like OOA/seasonal moons

or if you break progression and obtain HoAD early

everything obliterator

[fossil mural]

Eh osg and HVC are only really op against worms and events

And that's just because certified worm moment

Even if you nerf those, things like avalanche can still melt AS and destroyer

Or Tome of infinite wisdom on mages unless calamity nerfs it

[neat linden]

Well, not quite

OSGs are also insane (Although harder to use) against larger targets

and especially if they can stick to one spot for a while

like plant and aureus

[small timber]

the problem is they are like, invalidate tier of imbalance

[neat linden]

mayhaps levi too

[small timber]

"uselock" will be super strange, and considering enchanted sword is not even the most overbuffed sword in pre-boss, just keep the 'nerf it' part

[minor shell]

is enchanted sword even that powerful? i know its a really good pre boss weapon but ive never felt it to be "overpowered" by any metric

[small timber]

it shreds eye of cthulhu, but so does minishark, that is my opinion

for me the problem is more how most pre-boss true melee completely invalidate pre-Boss normal enemies without any issue, on bosses themselves I dont have any problem with

[minor shell]

yeah i think blade of grass is more powerful against eoc than enchanted sword tbh

[small timber]

calamity already give a super nice start of game boost in increased speed, jump height and mining speed; I really dont think it is necessary to add another crutch in the form of overpowered true melee weapon against normal enemies; they are currently overbuffed to make them viable on bosses but I really feel they dont have to

there can be like 1-2 super strong pre-boss true melee weapon that are viable against bosses, but having all of them overbuffed is really unnecessary

[gaunt tiger]

based xpcqe

[hollow shell]

@kindred creek You realize replacing Terra Blade with Terratomere would make it much more annoying to craft

because Exoblade requires Terratomere

[kindred creek]

and exoblade kinda sucks in comparison to other post draedon weapons like the spine of thanatos.

[hollow shell]

That's

a really poor counter-argument

[hollow idol]

waow

[hollow shell]

Stats are subject to change in any given update

[kindred creek]

@hollow shell youre right. I changes the suggestion a bit

[hollow shell]

Alright

This is valid though I personally disagree

[drowsy plank]

i think alt recipes would be fine that allowed you to use the upgrades, but even that isnt terribly necessary

[kindred creek]

do you think making it an alt recipe instead of completely replacing the current one would be better?

[small timber]

Changing zenith recipe also require changing the blade that comes out in its animation

And considering how iconic zenith is for vanilla, people will think this is just calamity wanting to slap calamity thing onto every vanilla items

[drowsy plank]

oh absolutely, that's the only way this thing is passing, but even then, i doubt the devs would go through with it considering how many of those swords have upgrades, and how annoying and frankly bloated it'd be to add every single combination of upgrades as a recipe, the best thing to do is just. leave it alone man. no one actually has a problem with zenith in its current form except for like. you. this is like the third or fourth time you've tried to get it changed and they never get through voting, let alone dev acceptance. im sure if you spent some time looking for stuff, you could find things more worth changing than the umpteenth zenith rework it wont get lmfao

[gaunt tiger]

just make a crafting group for "any terra blade" or similar
like how there's a "any mana flower"

I don't think there's any harm in that idea

[drowsy plank]

that actually does sound like a good change

[gaunt tiger]

that'd be how the exo blade recipe change would probably be implemented

be a bit of a headache tho

[drowsy plank]

any star wraith and any horseman's blade seem kinda silly tho, and i dont know why this guy wants enchant and starfury removed. if he was just suggesting a terra blade crafting group tho id be for it

[drowsy plank]

@viral smelt this is a reversion suggestion so it's already a no by the rules, but also, can you elaborate on what you mean exactly?

maybe if you could specify why you find it so easy you could make an actually valid suggestion

[subtle sapphire]

Question : I would like to put a sugg about replacing the floating evil island with a subworld with the opposite evil, but I don't know how subworlds work. Should I just put the sugg anyway, or could anyone tell me if that'd be possible with subworlds ?

[fossil finch]

it would be possible but that'd be like a waste of the whole mechanic

even if you have a small subworld it'd be very weird to have a subworld dedicated to that at all and definitely not something calamity would do

[subtle sapphire]

wdym

[fossil finch]

i guess you can say that, in the part of the game outside of the game, subworlds aren't used for things like this but rather for "cool stuff" so it'd be weird to dedicate a subworld to this

and calamity usually doesn't do this type of stuff? they've got no reason to make a subworld with another evil, you just have the island to access the content of both evils in one world easily

to me it'd be a waste of subworld basically

i don't think it is necessary

[grim tusk]

@viral smelt BR was always a meltfest.
Also if you want to make it harder you can play higher difficulties, crank up boss hp in the configs, install other mods, play master, consume odd mushroom, etc

You also have no reasoning on your sugg

[fossil finch]

crying irl and nrl and vr and crying

the damage that exoblade and soe have done to this community is incalculable

[grim tusk]

@warped coyote idk what are you on about, why the hell would we implement an unfinished/unused weapon. Also zenith is not directly after ml on Calamity, its post Yharon so having it craft into First fractal on that tier would not make sense either

[subtle sapphire]

meh, you still have to spread the other evil yourself because the island is not big enough and is too high to spawn the right enemies and bosses. Sounds like a subworld would be better

anyway I'm gonna make the suggestion if there's no obvious issue with it, we'll see what the community thinks I guess.

[hardy dock]

There’s the obvious issue of adding a dependency for a completely redundant and tiny feature

[fossil finch]

i mean it may get rejected by rover beforehand but i don't think it exactly breaks a don't so go off

i guess it could fall under too much effort?

[subtle sapphire]

ah fack, that would be true. Oh well, I wrote it now, we'll see how it goes.

[swift wharf]

can't you just

make another world

[drowsy plank]

calamity likes to avoid doing that

like i could also spawn in purple solution and a clentaminator on a crimson world and just turn one of the crimson biomes into corruption, but cal like to let you have everything accessible on a single world, so a legit, non-multi world solution, is nice

which is what the floating island is

[subtle sapphire]

I like my gameplay things to be within gameplay

[drowsy plank]

lol

[swift wharf]

Yeah that's the point of the island

[drowsy plank]

you could also use both evils or just the built in seed with both

[swift wharf]

But like

If you really want to experience the other biome

Then you should've chosen that biome instead?

Cal also adds a way to get prehm evil biome loot

[subtle sapphire]

what if you really want to experience both

[swift wharf]

.

[drowsy plank]

lol

[subtle sapphire]

yeah ok true

... but that's annoyiiiiiiing

[swift wharf]

Although I don't like having both biomes, because it removes the tradeoff of choosing your preferred one in the first place
It's a solution

[subtle sapphire]

<- inhaling copium to avoid realising he's dumb to not have taken both world evil

[small timber]

There is an issue with the subworld suggestion, it is insanely high effort

Considering they havent get subworld to work yet, this suggestion have to account for that fact

[crude geode]

@hollow shell “make zenith a material” with no reasoning

[fossil finch]

they haven't gotten a subworld to work because they haven't done anything?

that's not an argument

Making a subworld is not that high effort because well that's the point of sublib

the problem would be the worldgen which you could copy's vanillas
Though i don't know to what extent without something breaking

[subtle sapphire]

oh btw why aren't there "downvotes" for the suggestions ? To differentiate between the ones people dislike and the ones people don't care about

[crude geode]

@small timber bruh they have though

[crude geode]

[fossil finch]

because its pointless

To the system's eyes it'd be the same thing

[crude geode]

It’s in the don’t document for a reason

@hot zephyr can we get a balance check on enchanted sword

[hot zephyr]

yea sure :)

[crude geode]

Pog ty

[subtle sapphire]

Thanks, it's been a while since I've looked at them.

I'm surprised the only thing about crossmods is for thorium

I would have imagined crossmods things would be a "don't" because I imagine it's hard to coordinate. But then again I don't know shit about developing a terraria mod

[gray nebula]

dan

damn

i hate being late to this

was too busy gaymign

this goes in my top 10 most hilarious setences ever said

just rip the evil island out

graveyards exist now

lol

or just make a new world

[crude geode]

very true

[crude geode]

hasn't this always been the argument against evil island

despite never making it to dev

[gray nebula]

yea

i think evil island kinda peepo poopy

it could have gotten removed had it not gotten a new coat of literal paint tho

but ill resugg it later

[crude geode]

I think it's especially blegh since graveyards exist now

did it?

wack

[gray nebula]

the clouds.. the

the clouds

the cloud'

cloud SPRITES

the cloud sprites have gotten a coat of paint yea now theyre painted thats it

[crude geode]

they look pretty ye

[gray nebula]

but yea becaus this was made it means it has a deetoip, biffe

deletion bugger

buffzer

[crude geode]

deletion buffer more like cringe

[gray nebula]

anyways stfu devourer of gods has been animated on TV

awesome

[crude geode]

woah

[gray nebula]

aweosme

[crude geode]

iban try to spell challenge
neato, can't believe we're in a studio ghibli film

[small timber]

the entire existence/reason of evil island now is pretty much just so opposite evil is accessible pre-HM (Since the graveyard one is HM only?) and opposite evil biome chest

[keen zealot]

the ONLY reason to keep the evil island now is the opposite evil biome chest

the item within also, but mainly the chest itself

[vocal grotto]

*And the gen code for the clouds/"ground" were completely remade but ignore this
Byeah I wouldn't be opposed to the islands being nuked. I'm not very in favor of it due to the dreaded sunk cost fallacy but objectively speaking I don't think it's super important in light of other avenues existing for creating artificial alt evil biomes

[cobalt pewter]

honestly investing on graveyard is enough if you really wanna make other evil accessible in a world

make it accessible but with ✨ effort ✨

just nuke evil islands and re attribute some of its stuff into graveyard

(almost everything on evil island is already replicable in graveyard aside from the crimson chest, and you can probably BS out some kinda Vampire Knives crafting with Crimson Key and some other thing in Graveyard)

[subtle sapphire]

I think one of Fargo's mod let's you craft vampire knives with crimson key + ectoplasm. Same with corrupt key and the corruption item no one cares about because it doesn't heal

Maybe something like that could be s solution

[small timber]

ideally it will not have to rely on fargo in that case, if evil islands are removed

I think make (evil biome chest weapons) craftable from like life alloy + key might be a good tradeoff just for renewability, if they actually gutted evil islands

[gaunt tiger]

Subworlds pog

[subtle sapphire]

they do be very poggers

[dry scaffold]

Why draedon simply doesn't have a giant lab with the opposite evil biome inside?

[dire mural]

what is the capability of adding a way to control the number of evil world biome spawns

seeing 3 evil biomes annoys me

[small timber]

there is no 3 evil biomes, unless you count hallow

if you mean the opposite biome island, it is in a completely isolated location that have no chance to spread

the existence of opposite biome island is in fact intentional so that getting the loot from opposite evil biome is possible (including biome chest)

[dire mural]

i mean, 3 of the evil biome

like 3 separate spawns in a world of crimson

[frozen hornet]

You mean something like three patches of corruption?

[small timber]

are you using extra large world? because to my knowledge that dont really happen unless like bugged world gen?

since I always use large world and that happens like, none

if 2.0 change it then maybe I miss it, but I doubt it

[frozen hornet]

I've had 2-3 patches of corruption and crimson on large worlds before

Deserts are funnier though

mfw 6 patches of desert

[dire mural]

i literally keep getting at minimum 2 patches on a regular large world @small timber

have done like

20 worlds

and its annoying me so much lmao

its not for spread reasons, its for ocd reasons

[small timber]

does it have 3 chasm? I mean the corruption deep tunnel or the crimson heart-like structure

oh right, my bad, I forgot that I keep treating the chasm at the same side as the same patch of evil biome, my bad

thats why for me it is always 2 chasm only since there is literally only 2 direction: left and right

[dire mural]

yes

2-3 different chasm patches

and im just

so aggravated lmao

[small timber]

you can suggest that I think? though world gen stuff is super meh to change, but ya there really dont need 3 evil biome chasm

the 3rd one just make it so your jungle or snow often get corrupted

[dire mural]

like itd be fine if it was in one tight area

like how 2 chasms can be in one tight area

but spread out?

@small timber do any of your worlds have only 1 chasm or two chasms very tight together?

i could use one of your ids

[small timber]

I will check, but like here said, I always treated it weirdly

I can try to create some and find one, but dont get hopes up

[dire mural]

thats fine

[small timber]

master or expert? (since I am unsure if world ID affect that)

[dire mural]

journey

🤔

hmm

i do journey because i cba

journey might be bugged tbh

[small timber]

3.3.1.1944190653 ok at least this seems to work, just paste the seed then click journey (dont touch world size is large, I assume world size will ruin it)

but ya regardless, suggestions

[olive widget]

I’m T up

[small timber]

@dire mural ^

[dire mural]

Alrighty

Will try and let you know how it looks

[small timber]

that one has 2 chasm and both are on the left side, and right have none, should be like that

[dire mural]

Are they close together?

[small timber]

pretty close together

[dire mural]

Okay

I’ll check once I get back

[drowsy plank]

@proud plinth why

[proud plinth]

why not

[drowsy plank]

i mean it's just gonna get flagged
it's not even funny

[proud plinth]

ok fine

[crude geode]

Doesn’t moon lord’s tongue stop lifesteal not life regen? Or does cal change it

[proud plinth]

i thought it said life regen, mightve misread it

ill look that up though

[drowsy plank]

it's lifesteal, but i know that all debuffs factor into regen calculations i believe

though moon bite seems like one that would be an exception

might need to look into that

[proud plinth]

ima check if cal changed moon bite, i swore it said life regen when i read the lil debuff note..

ok so it says ingame "you are unable to absorb healing effects"

does that mean you just outright cant heal from most things or you cant absorb hp from enemies (lifesteal)?

[drowsy plank]

that's just no lifesteal

they word it really weirdly for no reason

[proud plinth]

k, ima rewrite that part of the suggestion then..

[drowsy plank]

👍

[proud plinth]

there

[small timber]

previously it might be a reasonable nerf, but currently there is no reason to remove nightwither from moon lord now

because you have a very clear immunity option for it in the form of celestial shell

which is also an amazing accessory regardless of class, so not exactly niche option like plague hive

@quiet escarp that one is due to a bug with the shader, it is not intended to be that way

[gray nebula]

fk i forgot

legitimately i didnt mean it to be offensive

😭

[grim tusk]

@proud plinth just equip celestial shell

Or Astral Jewel

Or community

[proud plinth]

k

[scarlet crypt]

If any testers are around, could someone test Malachite with shattering potion vs Ravager? Weapon too good lmao

Nw if no one is around but this weapon legit carries me to like Providence 😂

[drowsy plank]

@scarlet crypt already tested

[eternal escarp]

(Malachite is being tested alrready)

[scarlet crypt]

Ah ok, yeah it’s really good, and then disgustingly broken with shattering potion

[drowsy plank]

shattering was also being looked at after it gave some absurd results with swordsplosion and some other melee weapons

[scarlet crypt]

Yeah swordsplosion destroys Providence with it

Swordsplosion is balanced without shattering but Malachite might need a small nerf of its own

[drowsy plank]

yeah both do badly

[scarlet crypt]

All of those ex-legendary weapons are all over the place with balance. SHPC needs to be buffed imo especially with the effort it takes to obtain

[grim tusk]

shpc literally is just crafted now

[sand ermine]

nvm

[grim tusk]

Malachite finished being balanced vs Fishron, just need to check its fine vs the other 4 bosses at the tier

[hollow shell]

Yeah but the parts are strewn all over the world

[cloud sentinel]

Yeah I've been coding so much I forgot enter actually sends a message XD

[drowsy plank]

didnt 100% trophies for all modes already pass

[scarlet crypt]

Yeah that’s what I meant it’s pretty obscure

[sand ermine]

[hollow shell]

Yes but not implemented.
#suggestions-voting message

[scarlet crypt]

and for having a material centered around ONLY obtaining SHPC, it’s pretty underwhelming with 18 base Magic damage

[hollow shell]

Base damage means nothing

You gotta look at DPS and kill times

[grim tusk]

yea it fires very fast

and the other click is an explosion that multihits

[scarlet crypt]

Nah I get that I did just say Malachite was broken after all 😂

I wasn’t really saying it needed to be tested just more that I was personally underwhelmed with it. Maybe bc I enjoyed it a ton back when Legendaries were a thing

[hollow shell]

@surreal heart "as soon as the person that Providence is targeting dies, she despawns." This does not seem like a despawn range issue

[surreal heart]

sorry i kinda forgot to clarify

my friends are like 300 ft away from me when i die and yet she still despawns

[hollow shell]

And just for perspective, everybody involved is in the fight at the same time, right? They all are dodging projectiles and they hear the music, and they aren't being damaged by Providence's distance-based Holy Inferno debuff, right?

[surreal heart]

yes

[hollow shell]

Alright, then yes that is definitely not a despawn range issue

That's an issue we've heard before with multiplayer bosses

where if the targeted player dies then the boss thinks that all players are dead and fucks off

If you were inside the Holy Inferno radius and she still despawned, then it can't be a range issue, cuz people stray into the Holy Inferno zone all the time

[surreal heart]

alright

[hollow shell]

Wow, has it really been over a week already?

[drowsy plank]

i feel like suggesting an identical suggestion that was recently voted down by the devs would be bad practice, but it's not against any explicit rules so...

[distant gyro]

it should

there is not going to be a scenario where another vote in a span of 2 weeks will result in a different outcome

speaking of which, this just got denied like 4 days ago @kindred creek
#suggestions-voting message

[kindred creek]

oh, i didnt know

ill delete it

[gray nebula]

@lavish cloak also jus t say that auroras dont move like dat

[lavish cloak]

im fighting a literal giant ice cube i think the aurora being not how auroras look irl is the least of my worries

but yeah its not how auroras look irl and it kinda looks

bad

but im just gonna say it affects gameplay since thats more important than looking bad i think

[lavish cloak]

yeah its been over a week

[hollow shell]

Time really do fly

[lavish cloak]

edited the suggestion since i do think that the visuals could be def improved by way of like, primtrails. I think Spirit mod does it well (not bias tho just my own opinion) and i think having an aurora like that for the cryogen fight would help it look prettier and be less distracting

cus rn its literally just like, a static sprite fading in and out visually and shifting left to right

[drowsy plank]

if only people will actually vote for it this time 🙏

[vocal grotto]

Yeah, I agree that the effect can be improved, as the guy who made it in the first place. Doesn't really look too much like an aurora all things considered
Though I don't think it's too high priority

[dire mural]

im happy my dcu upgrade got over 120 votes within like 5 days

[gray nebula]

bias alert!

[violet pivot]

Sirius its not bad its bugged there is no difference on damage when you use 1 or 15

[bright crag]

^

[violet pivot]

please fix sirius tho

[solemn dust]

There is one, but its only really noticeable when you dedicate all slots to it

[violet pivot]

I did the test 2000 dps with 1 or 15 even on bosses

[fossil finch]

There is no difference

It's been tested

It is bugged

[gaunt tiger]

I reported it a few days ago

[small timber]

suggestion cant have video attached anymore?

[drowsy plank]

video too big?

[small timber]

it is 9mb so shouldnt be, limit is 50mb iirc

[drowsy plank]

damn wtf

[small timber]

I just removed video to see if it fix itself

[drowsy plank]

i guess ping someone maybe??

ah

[small timber]

worst case scenerio I use a youtube link instead

[drowsy plank]

understandable

does the bot automatically fix formatting issues?

[small timber]

it should be, at least I think so

[drowsy plank]

man what on earth would even be wrong with it now lmao

[dire mural]

F

tested it

[small timber]

I will just wait for now, if it still have attachment problem I will repost it

[small timber]

ya I think that looks abit different to what I had, I think mine dont have that weird water desert either

though at least I think it should still be 2 patch of corruption only? I remember the other side dont have

[dire mural]

yeah but theyre separated by the dungeon and the second one bothers the sulphur sea

[small timber]

world gen stuff is weird, I guess probably just have to find a mod that deletes it

[dire mural]

i dont understand why it needs to spawn more then one patch

[dire mural]

now to find a mod like that lol

[small timber]

it has some limited resources like crimson heart/shadow orb, in other case it is so that evil bosses are more refightable in vanilla (as their summon are not unconsumable)

[dire mural]

god damn it so close with another test

[small timber]

(so ya probably just suggest that if you want, for cal it is not really needed)

[dire mural]

id have tolerated this if it wasnt legit neck deep in the dungeon

[dire mural]

bam, medium world

finally

[small timber]

I guess youtube video it is

bot instantly have formatting issue if I use video file

will try 1 more time 10 min later

[dire mural]

took 30 tries, thanks for your seed to try to help

[small timber]

ya (though it didnt help much tbh)

[dire mural]

i mean, you tried

[grave zinc]

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[make decrypted schematics]

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[Add a summon item for Anahita and Leviathan]

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[small timber]

weekly wall of text

[grave zinc]

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[Make a Rogue station buff]

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[The Adult Eidolon Wyrm deserves a Relic]

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[small timber]

(oh right that one is already done because iban saw it)

[dire mural]

darn, mine got skipped over

[unique vector]

sorry for the three pings

i messed up the reaction order

no im the oen working on it

😇

[dire mural]

oh

[small timber]

oh, amazing job 👍

[dire mural]

@small timberfor the suggestion, how should i word it

[grave zinc]

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[Rework Progression of Slime God]

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[small timber]

not sure, probably just say something along the line of calamity making boss summon unconsumable and crimson heart/shadow orb loot being renewable for chest make it have much less reason to have many corruption/crimson patches; and only end up corruptiong snow/jungle (which are often one off) more often... etc etc

[dire mural]

wdym renewable by chest? @small timber

[small timber]

sorry renewable by crates

you can get stuff like vile thorn, mana regen band from corruption crate, for example

[dry scaffold]

What about a disguise station,that gives stealth strike regen

[dire mural]

ohhh okay, ty

[small timber]

megalodon is a machine gun (unlikes say monsoon which are giant arrows) so I will not say fire a large creature out of it will make a lot of sense, though if there will be a rework for the weapon (line) I will much rather prefer it to be more than just fire different funny projectile

[eternal escarp]

not sure if the sugg holds anything other than repeating the "itd be funny" reason twice even

[small timber]

@jagged spade while not exactly your intention, I think it is best for your suggestion to be "make both evil biome mimic drop craftable" instead

aka flesh knuckle and putrid scent

[jagged spade]

oh yea

[small timber]

it will be extremely weird to have one of them craftable while the other one not

[jagged spade]

yeah let me edit that suggestion up a little bit

[small timber]

#suggestions-voting message oh right this suggestion actually get delivered this week, so there is still hope even if your suggestion didnt get in

(I think this suggestion approach might be better/more acceptable by devs too, since they added evil drop convert but not directly craftable for the pre-HM ones)

[distant gyro]

trolled

[jagged spade]

did i just type something for 5 minutes straight just to see this

think i mightve fucked up with this suggestion

[small timber]

truly a devplan.png moment

I think in that case probably just, delete the suggestion maybe, since they are unlikely to add both convert and crafted recipe

[grave zinc]

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[jagged spade]

what the fuck

[small timber]

(and they likely dont want things to be just pure crafted)

[jagged spade]

what a coincidence

[swift wharf]

[jagged spade]

i didnt expect such a coincidence

lmao

[distant gyro]

clueless

[swift wharf]

just like the cia

[jagged spade]

yeah i deleted it

[swift wharf]

your suggestion was so good they approved it immediately

[small timber]

well at least at the end problem solved

(it was annoying anyway, because those drops are really important after they do the non-final version accessory nerf on molten quiver and sniper scope)

[jagged spade]

i still want one of my suggestions about boss arena previews to be noticed

i do think that's a good one

[small timber]

that one I think scal one did get approved before, so there is a chance they might still do it even if yours didnt get in

#suggestions-voting message this

[jagged spade]

he did not say anything about yharon tho

[small timber]

ya, though since it can be a similar deal the devs might make a connection, but ya

if yours get in of course it will be better

[fallen plover]

That was funny timing for my suggestion being implemented

[grave zinc]

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[Make potions of return craftable with blood orbs]

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[terse sundial]

(I also did that last week)

[small timber]

@plush drift suggestion to readd removed feature is a don't iirc, even if it is just a config

if they are removed they are probably done so for good reason

[inner anvil]

We removed it because it only caused an infinite amount of bugs more than adding something to the fight.
And they weren't even that difficult, they only had a 1/3rd of their HP (And maybe damage? I don't remember), it felt more like a slug, specially when you only needed to do it once.

[small timber]

damage I think is similar or slightly nerfed, either way they are like, killed in 5 seconds for all of them ya

[inner anvil]

Ah, ok, then it was like: "Ok, spend 10 seconds killing something easy once for no reason to get to the real fight".

[plush drift]

ah ic

[small timber]

(and only work for the first time sentinels are encountered)

unless you are playing hardcore it dont really add difficulty tbh

[inner anvil]

Hardcore moment.

[small timber]

I feel ideally they should just be in bestiary tbh, since not everyone play the game for lore

putting lore in trophies or relic will just give the item wall of text (especially trophies, which is somewhat rare in the first place)

[swift wharf]

I'd not put lore in relics

[small timber]

spawners are definitely a no though, since for new player they have no idea what the boss is beforehand; this just gives them a spoiler

[swift wharf]

Since they're not obtainable without master or rev

[hollow shell]

I mean we are already putting lore in weapon tooltips

(We have done so for a while but now in a more official capacity)

[small timber]

ya just, I feel weapon lore generally are very little/short texts

[hollow shell]

I feel like having the lore of a boss before you fight it is far better than learning after the fact
That way there's actually some weight to the fight

[small timber]

(unless they make the relic version very conscise/short)

[hollow shell]

Also these can be small texts too

I don't think he's asking for the full official lore transcripts to be placed in them

[small timber]

ya I think I confused it as basically have the full lore of the boss on the items (trophy, relic, summons)

[subtle sapphire]

Oh yeah no wall of text, just a couple lines at most

[unborn oriole]

AYOOOO

[solemn dust]

[unborn oriole]

[gray nebula]

wxe should make bandit be the rogue station buff

[crude geode]

Pretty sure you’ve mentioned this b4

[small timber]

tf yharimdance is an actual emote in this server

(obligatory make rogue have a station buff instead of bandit suggestion incoming because people cant handle having to left click after right click)

[unborn oriole]

Bandit
Can be placed
Right click to increase your Rogue velocity by 10%

[gray nebula]

no i odnt think i mentionned it

phup might have

or someone else

[small timber]

make rogue consumable have 20% less chance to be consumed

:trollge:

[drowsy plank]

make rogue items edible

[unborn oriole]

Make rogue weapons have armor penetration

I dont like the idea of a buff so instead lets just buff all weaons so we dont need to right click every 10 minutes cuz its annoying and stressful

[drowsy plank]

they removed station buff durations in "1.5" anyway

i dunno what the actual next vanilla version is called so im just calling it "1.5"

[unborn oriole]

1.4.4

Tbh what i want the most from 1.4.4 is Town slimes

The update is awesome and all, but i can be happy with a single nerd slime in my town

[unborn oriole]

You mean stealth generation? Oh yeah that's one idea iirc

[hollow shell]

Not even a bad idea

[cobalt pewter]

Technically there's already a precedent to this

Amidias

[crude geode]

I love singular precedent

[drowsy plank]

uhhhhhh well dryad gives an AoE buff so maybe kinda there's 2??? totally

[dry scaffold]

Yep

And i said a disguise station,like,a mirror with that cringe disguise of a mustache+glasses

It would be funny

[cobalt pewter]

not exactly the same functionally if we were to assume what iban meant

[drowsy plank]

i know that's why i was saying it jokingly

was the tone not obvious enough??

[unborn oriole]

No

[dire mural]

Thanks for your help with how to word my suggestion xpc

Pretty happy with how I worded it

[small timber]

ok originally I just wanted to ask for testing Maelstorm since it feels pretty weak, but after done some testing it is actually pretty ok comparatively, I guess high damage setup just amplify high fire rate weapon dps by much more

figure the stat should not go to complete waste and just drop it here (since some testers often hang out here)
(basically just all the ranger weapon I can think of around polterghast/old duke tier against DoG phase 1; don't have full fight stat since it was originally just to ask for testing)
(forgot to mention all the bullet used here is bloodflare bullet)

[small timber]

ya it looks good

[dire mural]

I laughed at my last bit of my suggestion because it’s the most true one

It’s just ugly and bad for my ocd when I see that stuff lmao

[orchid cairn]

@worthy lintel youre on the list of testers in the suggestions document thingy, so im pinging you to look at the staff of the mechworm- it seems WAY too strong for where you get it, for my playthrough i recently finished it did higher DPS than the cosmic immaterializer

[inner anvil]

Spider was picked by the death wheel.

[gaunt tiger]

hey memes, could you test blade staff on mechs? I think it needs a speed boost, not sure if this is already something known of

[inner anvil]

Fuck, I've been picked by the death wheel.

[gaunt tiger]

lol

[inner anvil]

Alright, I'll test it.

[gaunt tiger]

thank!

[inner anvil]

After eating this precious watermelon, of course.

[gaunt tiger]

ofc ofc

[eternal escarp]

still noting its something i have suggested myself when i tested it pre-port release

[inner anvil]

@eternal escarp I should test Blade Staff for 1st mech, right?

[gaunt tiger]

oh
wait blast you're a tester?

I may not be smart

[inner anvil]

He's on the list, so yeah, he's a tester.

[gaunt tiger]

o

sorry memes 😦

looks like the death wheel has saved you after all

[inner anvil]

Doesn't mean the only testers are the ones in the list though, those are the ones that wanted to apply for help for these balance questions.

[gaunt tiger]

ahh

if you still do test it, yeah it'd be first mech

but if blast has already suggested then it's done already ig

[inner anvil]

Let me check just in case.

[gaunt tiger]

oki! ty

[eternal escarp]

sorry i was away
ye QS is pretty much first boss

[inner anvil]

@gaunt tiger Tested it, yes I agree that it needs a speed buff, but on top, personally, it needs a range buff (The range that it can detect enemies) and it's usual damage buff, becuase it takes too long to kill the Destroyer, which was the only mech I could test it on without Blade Staff being slow.

[gaunt tiger]

I used it to kill skeletron prime in my playthru on master lol
thank you for test

[worthy lintel]

Why do I get pinged for test funsies while I work

i look like a slacker...

[inner anvil]

Wait, you aren't?

[worthy lintel]

granted once im free ill test it if no one else does in the meantime

and give you results

[novel belfry]

probably my favorite summon weapon from the 1.4. update ngl
stupidly low damage? makes up for it by shredding through anything that has good defense

[orchid cairn]

i love the staff of the mechworm i just think its definitely too strong

[grim tusk]

Whips broke summoner

[inner anvil]

Shh.

They don't need to know yet.

[orchid cairn]

i dont think whips had anything to do with it actually

[grim tusk]

Although nice to see mechworm be broken again, its been ages

[orchid cairn]

whips definitely made summoner stronger in general but it was busted as hell without using a whip

also sorry for pinging you at work i just saw you were online

[worthy lintel]

i cannot guarantee that ill get to test it before the others and get the sweet tester points

but mechworm being broken wouldnt surprise me

dont be sorry lol, it just happens

[inner anvil]

I won't steal the test.

It's not going anywhere, it'll be in your mail. :)

[novel belfry]

i liked both playstyles tbh
old summoner allowed you to focus more on no hitting, while the new summoner at least makes you try to get closer to the foe to buff your summons

[wise idol]

i agree with the make trophies 100% drop rates, had to fight cryogen 50 times thanks to bad RNG

[novel belfry]

problem is, whips are a little too simple

i wish there were more complex weapons that also have tag damage (i actually suggested this earlier, should go check how that one went)

looks like it failed to garner enough stars

#suggestions-voting message

[dire mural]

and i dont see that as a problem

besides, theyre doing calamity whips

we know damn well calamity weapons arent 'simple'

most of vanilla terraria weapons are basic af

most of vanilla ranger weapons

are absolutely basic

same for most vanilla mage and melee weapons

calamity is what adds the spice

[stray phoenix]

whips probably have as much potential for spice as any other weapon tho with their secondary effects

certainly as much as melee weapons with how many projectiles they get that might as well be magic weapons on their own

and with calamity having weapons like the biome blade and the pre-hm oathswords that drastically change form the basic terraria sword, I could foresee some whips with likewise unique ranges of motion

[swift wharf]

why does nobody talk about cnidarian when referring to unique, non minion/sentry summon weapons

[inner anvil]

It doesn't give tag damage so they sleep on it.

[stray phoenix]

not really a summoner player, only knowledge is from a friend who is

[swift wharf]

That's fine, but I rarely see ppl mentioning it

[swift wharf]

[inner anvil]

Cnidarian.

There you go, I mentioned it.

[swift wharf]

Thank you Memes

[inner anvil]

Society is a better place now.

Always here.

[swift wharf]

its cooler than any whip and it makes me MAD

[inner anvil]

Don't be mad.

Be happy that it exists.

[gaunt tiger]

ppl complaining about whips
my brother in christ, they literally don't work

but yes summoner will need a nerf I assume

[stray phoenix]

wdym they dont work?

[inner anvil]

Tag Damage does not work.

[gaunt tiger]

tag damage is bugged

[stray phoenix]

in like calamity or all of terraria?

[inner anvil]

I don't recall we doing that change in Calamity, so I imagine it's a tMod issue.

[stray phoenix]

ofc it is, version of the game that took 2 years to update to 1.4 after all

[gaunt tiger]

on the bright side
it can be played

balance issues or bugs that don't break the game are kinda fine
though obviously they need fixing eventually

[inner anvil]

@bronze fox Yharon is already a boss in the game. It has been on the game for a long while.

[hollow shell]

https://calamitymod.wiki.gg/wiki/Jungle_Dragon,_Yharon

[bronze fox]

???

i mean the peson

[hollow shell]

((You're thinking of "Yharim"))

[bronze fox]

not the dragon

oh

[inner anvil]

If you mean Yharim you'll need to wait until we add him eventually.

[bronze fox]

ok tanks

[hollow shell]

Byeah we will be adding him in the future

[bronze fox]

good to know

[hollow shell]

He's gonna be added pretty much after everything else we have planned, cuz he's the final boss, big cap-off moment

[bronze fox]

makes sense

his PET is dog

that is just...

[hollow shell]

The closest candidate for being his pet is Yharon
DoG is more like a business partner / hitman

[orchid cairn]

i adore the cnidarian its awesome

[bronze fox]

i see