#suggestions-discussion
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wyt about the lasers in dog not being projectiles, but instead just the telegraphs becoming solid lasers
nah
that's a dumb idea
I'm not asking to add more to the Heart, or to revert the changes, to clarify, I'm asking for the non-waifu elemental stones to combine into a thing.
I think that's been suggested before, sounds familiar
I don't think it would be a bad idea
I think it would be in phase 1 a bad idea
but in phase 2 for the dog walls I think it'd work
The general stat increases were what made it a must-have. Significant boost to survivability.
that's why they got taken out of the heart I think
m, even if the Stones combined with HotE now, it'd be a totally different accessory than the one it was before
Effects rather than stats
I think the stones should stay separate from hote
even when the stones are combined
what are the stones left now? bloom chaos aero?
if they combine the current version it will be like... a really weird stat stick?
not really, only aero is a pure stat stick ig
but you can always morph the theming so that the combination keeps the essence of the stones while giving them a new look fitting as a combination
also why I despise Auric Tesla so much
I'm not terribly attached to combining them again, that was more just because it felt thematically appropriate. All classes have an elemental-themed accessory, the stones being added to them felt like it would fit the vibe.
I dont like telegraph line being overused tbh, especially when they are not necessary
the only one I will agree is WoF because the fight is not good in its current stat, maybe destroyer, other bosses I dont think it is necessary
that's why my suggestion focuses on faster projectiles or ones that are hard to see like on polter
though personally I love telegraph lines, they mean my reaction timing isn't tested as much as my actual ability to dodge
from the example you used I think profaned guardian is fine, aureus I dont think it is really needed since the shotgun is not really fast, polterghast will be... weird? since it will basically be artemis shotgun blast where it exist for 0.5 seconds
the artemis shotgun telegraph is very important
personally I think preferably bosses should be intuitive, as in you don't really need lines or something like that to telegraph the attack and the player will just know what is coming just from seeing what the boss is doing; telegraph line should be reserved for like, when it is absolutely necessary (like DoG lasers, thanatos), I don't even think artemis need it tbh (except shotgun)
I think it does
and I think it opens up a lot of design space for the devs
knowing what's coming isn't intuition, it's rote learning, which isn't necessarily skilful as much as it is just bashing your head against a wall until you break through
like how cthulhu's enraged dashes are just rapid fire bullshit
maybe cthulhu is a bad example
you can't kill them
what
ok I will just say my opinion here so feel free to disagree:
I really dislike line telegraph, because to certain degree it is the laziest way to build boss telegraph; you can create any amount of unreasonable pattern and throw in a line telegraph and give the player some times and say "hey look at this super hard impossible to dodge attack, now just put yourself between the gaps of the line and you dodge it for free"
most of the time line telegraph end up only just to serve for making "super fancy boss attack" rather than mechanically interesting one
the little mini ghosties on polter
while giving the telegraph to bosses in their current stat, say, polter mine as you mention is fine to me; I will not really want it to be the 'norm' of how bosses have their attack designed in the future
ya things like sound telegraph is completely fine for me
sound telegraphs like eoc are actually good
just like, not particularly fancy for line telegraph
that's kinda a cringe take imo
Sound telegraphs don't work when there's a ton of them
thanatos' lasers all have sounds but since they all activate a few half seconds between each other it just becomes noise
^^
the more visual telegraphs there are, you can still dodge everything
but the more sound telegraphs there are, you can dodge less well
Ye
telegraphing isn't to make an attack easier or harder, it's to make dodging an attack fairer
ok I should had been more clear about what I mean as "line telegraph"
I dont mind visual telegraph, like at all, or even telegraph in general, in fact I am in support of bosses having telegraph
what I don't like is 'telegraph that is literally draw a line', as in, DoG's laser walls kind of line
the notable (still 'somewhat line') visual telegraph I am very fine with are like ares and thanatos' thanos beam for example, basically a different alteration of 'line telegraph' that still large serve its purpose as visual telegraph but is much more creative and interesting in execution
what I mean by line telegraph and the one I absolute dislike is basically this (and then because telegraph exist the bullet just have instant projectile speed)
^, basically when I mentioned 'overused' I was basically referring to this kind of telegraph being constantly used by speeding up attack to insane degree while justifying it by having line telegraphs like this
in the scal example above it will basically be the equivalent of because telegraph line exist, they just speed it up to instantaneous speed and must forced to position yourself between the gap of the lines, rather than dodging the attack itself
i think a brief flash would work if Scal’s Bullet Hells were to be given a line telegraph
it one stays up for too long then
you have trouble seeing the projectile
Just don't use lines
use circles instead
@mint steppe specific item suggestions are not allowed, please read pins
thats not a sis
(and lunar kunai exist)
not a sis but man is that hard as hell to read
you can suggest making an upgrade to something
Then what kind of name would be?
i read it as making the hook of dissonance a material for the lunar kunai
an upgrading of Hook of Dissonance
then ya that is specific item suggestion, read pins
I read it as making a new item
its not
the lunar kunai does not teleport, just read the page, this is actually an sis he just didnt even bother checking the wiki
lunar kunai is a rogue weapon that has nothing to do with hooks
all the kunai does is throw a bunch of knives, it's just so hard to read we couldnt tell
he wants an upgrade to hook of dissonance called lunar kunai
an upgrade to hook of dissonance that is named lunar kunai I asusme
i thought he was suggesting making the hook a material for an item ive seemingly never heard of
but all the stats are spelt out
this is... a really bad sugg in so many ways regardless of its sis status consider we couldnt even tell what it was asking
(probably just bad translation since that look like google translate english)
lmao yeah
Yep
I learning English.
its ok
ya it is fine, just specific item suggestion is disallowed, basically creating item with specific laid out stat and function is not allowed for suggestion
Removed, but it's still shame such a good hook won't get a better upgrade.
you can suggest making an upgrade to the hook! just dont go into too many details
you can suggest 'add upgrade to hook of disonance', just not:
Upgrade to hook of disonance named hook of discord, teleport you and grant dodge on hook, crafted from hook of disonance + 10 crystal shard
@tropic sleet that's not a compelling reason
also the visuals have no chains on them
(and kunai in calamity is depicted as throwing weapon not the chained one)
this should probably be a given considering how cal treats magic mirror
@mint steppe don't do specific item suggestions
This is a upgrade.
it's too specific, it lists the materials and item name etc
you should try
Add an upgrade to the hook of dissonance
Possibly post-sentinels, and it would give a few immunity frames when used. I think this would be a good idea because <reason>
or something
this man just made his suggestion more specific lmao
That's SISSY
SiSsy baka
here lemme just;
Add an Upgrade to the Hook of Dissonance
The Hook of Dissonance is a really useful tool to early HM players due to its pseudo-Rod of Discord effect, for those who might not want to grind out the money to buy one from the Wizard.
Furthermore, as players get further into progression, Calamity has a real problem with a lack of viable hooks. The only hooks really worth using after Wall of Flesh are Bat Hook, Hook of Dissonance, and Bobbit Hook.
I propose that, similarly to how Bobbit Hook is an effective upgrade to Bat Hook, that Calamity add an "upgrade" to Hook of Dissonance to serve a similar purpose, as well as increase the variety of Hook options in the late game.
there done i did it for you just post that
bless
@mint steppe
OK beyond the discussion of how the sugg is invalid
"3 seconds of immunity every 10 seconds"
BRUH
lmfao ikr
hooks are outclassed by wings and mounts post-ml
that's basically just a 7 sec cooldown
there are none for a reason
perfectly fine :clueless
pretty much only bobbit hook is useful post-ML (though admittedly it is REALLY useful)
i think a Hook of Dissonance upgrade for the late game would be a cool idea but this guy just doesnt know how to format a sugg
itd prolly still be worse than bobbit but at least the option would be there
the only other hook i could think of that would deserve this treatment is static maybe
what do y'all think of my telegraphing sugg? I know xp doesn't like line telegraphs, but does anyone else have any feedbacck
I have feedback
Just say telegraphs
Don't specify line telegraphs
There's a bajillion ways of telegraphing and being honest lines are probably the worst ones
though being fair you just use the line telegraphs cuz it's the existing example byeah
Animations, particles (not necessarily dusts), sound cues (usually as complement, not the only telegraph) those work better
there are a lot of attacks in rev+ that I feel would really benefit from a little glowup with telegraphing basically, and then the bosses could be tuned a little harder
without them actually becoming harder, if that makes sense?
yea
like those fucking near invisible lightning fast spears in profaned guardians phase 3
PG is toned down a lot right?
I havent try it in death but rev seems to be reasonable now
(but ya, I dont mind adding telegraph to those that really need it)
yee
they are, the spears are annoying tho
yeah that's what a lot of projectiles do in calamity
Brimmy's barrage, cal's and scal's too
if they were telegraphed they could move at full speed all the time and it'd be fair
that'd be cool
fair
More dynamic and makes u stay close to the boss, which is the point
reasonable good take
NGL
I kinda don't like the hook of dissonance cause it completely kills your momentum
I wish it didn't attach you to the place you warp to
you can get the old scal experience on master malice
I've got absolutely no idea what you mean by "foils" but go off
what is a foil
Something that prevents/frustrates or a setback/defeat
They don't know. 
also a synonym for dissapoint
what don't we know
what don't we know
It's better to stay quiet.
Which is the only word that makes sense here but i don't see how they're disappointed
Ok so in some way old scal is coming back
Or is it?
No it's that scal ai has been the same since like 1.4
New difficulty, just a straight buff who knows
There's barely and old scal
Unless you go to prehistoric terms (no box scal)
Tbf there's been a huge amount of changes since the box but,
What I can say is that we are not bringing back old SCal AI in any way.
Good
scal rework???
Why?
good joke
idk
Ability to create a world
Fabsol is never reworking scal
scal more hp
No what the fuck.
scal uhhhhhh bugfix so the screen filter isn't borked
@alpine anchor if you can't, it's a bug, go yell at #bugs-read-pins
oh a music fix would be cool
It's nothing about SCal, y'all are ok?
Well, I'm not your person, all I can say is get well.
very sad that I finished my calamity run lol
calclone and scal are now swapped in progression and scal is now required pre plant with no other changes
Basically two things that contrasts each other by having parallels.
Why would we ever do that? Or is it sarcastic? I don't know.
at this point we're pulling your leg
why would anyone want that lmao
Do it, I have an infinite resource.
infinite leg??
Yeah.
I will steal your entire fucking leg collection
You don't have the power or the courage.
Memes's legs, only rivalled by Moon Lord's legs
New vanity item
Vanity accessory
Makes whatever leg armor you have extend to the ground from any height
pffffffft
But yeah, as far as I know, SCal is not getting a big rework anytime soon. Maybe a slight change here and there, but that I do not know.
I know.
I'd prefer her to have more hp in her active phases tbh cos the song gets cut off in awkward places
but there's a config for that ig
Alternatively, we can balance the weapons so we don't need to changer her HP.
Wouldn't that mess with exo too though
I kid
Look, we'll do that, everyone's at break after the port.
100%, I understand I was just trying to make a joke
y'all deserve your break for long time
Anyways, I'm playing Celeste, I'm gone.
@subtle sapphire if i can die to a queen bee with over 300,000 health, right after skeletron, pretty sure we dont need a better light pet.
Celst pog
I'm dying this has absolutely nothing to do with that
its a silly way to say i can get boss rush early
what does being able to obtain Terminus after Skeletron have to do with scal dropping a light pet
juncoril — Today at 1:01 AM
Make SCal drop a very strong light pet
SCal and Exo-mechs are foils in many ways, that I won't list here. The Exo-Mechs also drop the best mount in the game (Draedon's gayming chair) so it would make sense, keeping with others parallels, that SCal drops one of the best other tools. Since she is a fire witch, she should be pretty good at making light, so it would make sense for her to drop a very strong light pet. Once the player kills SCal, they're certainly ahead enough in progression to not be bothered by things like "light/darkness" anymore (and it's in the continuity of Moon Lord dropping the suspicious looking tentacle).
Also, currently once you're done with SCal there's basically two things left in the game : Ancient Eidolon Wyrm and the Boss rush. Both have to do with the abyss. So having a very strong light for the abyss as a reward for SCal fight would make sense.
i have read the suggestion yes
It still has nothing to do
Some people don't get terminus until post game
This would help with them
all im saying is if i can get it before boss rush we dont need a better pet
We don't care you go get terminus as soon as you get obsi key
you're not "everyone"
And it's not the only reason
you can also do duke right as you enter hm, are you suggesting a duke buff
yo guys, what's the best alco princess sells for rogue? post-plantera
not here
moscow mule if she has it
they ignore me
We'll ignore you too
they only ask, dont answer
I can't kill it it does 2000 dps, Im doing better with gamma heart right now
which technically is the same tier
2000 dps doesn't tell me much for an slow-hitting weapon
go for ethereal subjugator
thank you
sirius is weak to be fair
no, i reccomend i end this argument
agreed
well thats good
i mean
the pearl light pet gives an insane amount of light in the abyss so
lights up entire screen with night owl
Little light 
you who suggested expandable tooltips, which tooltips should get this treatment as well
. tooltip itself may be subject to some tweaks but rn i just need the opinion of the People
@cobalt pewter 

i agree
is this a tease for in-ui mode changing with a joke on it or is it completely fabricated and made up
Oh my god! Iban leaks!
this is incredible
incredible
you guys should be so glad i deleted the demonic spider mode expanded tooltip without recording it
if ur still looking for tooltips that should be compacted id say the fuckoff long named fishing accessory should get one
looks cool
yeah
i might do laudanum's debuff list too, trying to think of pretty egregious ones
OSC too since it's an upgrade of it
Laudanum doesn't do that anymore i think
hm? the wiki still has a debuff list for it so
Profaned Soul Crystal has a similar deal as Gem Tech so that'd probably a good target as well
anyways make a comprehensivel ist
supreme tackle fishing box
aight
i think
i think like maybe if the tooltip is longer than 6 lines it should prolly get treatment
possibli
actually it's "Supreme Bait Tackle Box Fishing Station"
@cobalt pewter - Your suggestion has received an updated status!
[Add a system to expand and collapse tooltips on player demand.]
It has been add to the devs' to-do list and planned for implementation!
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message
but also yea propose colored tooltip lines
porpose
colored tooltips are so good at drawing attention
are prehm armors getting TOO sexy?
man this would probably be really cool if i could read it
Muntum Dashon
also never
iban going a day without leaks challenge (impossible)
i held myself back for long enough in terms ofp ublic leaks
you did i was just thinking about how no leaks have happened in a while searching yesterday for them
i should stealth make a calamity twitter and give you total access to just silently leak things
True
other devs would hate us for this but imagien all the attention...
wow that's so stealthy now only everyone in this server that reads that will look for it
I'll literally search for it every day
Im sorry but i have a complaint, why the fuck does the astrum arcanum not work in multiplayer? I was so hyped to get it just to not be able to use it cuz im in multiplayer
What about Heavenly Gale
Maybe exo blade idk some exo weps have kinda long tooltips but also not that long
Probably The Community maybe too
(oh right, and possibly biome blade if it dont have it already)
what about Stealth tooltips on armors
definitely worth adding that on those
"gives x stealth" and the rest is just expandable
here's my suggestions for possible ones to aim for
my logic was if their tool tip covered half my screen it might be worth looking at
i overlooked a few really massive tooltips, but they were typically ones with really long single lines that this wouldnt really help with
I am dead so I shall check later today
but this looks pretty coolio
@jovial pelican You don't actually explain why you think the Abyss should extend into the underworld
I'm editing it, give me a minute
Inevitable mist sea mention
Yeah uhh indeed
also inevitable custom liquids not exactly easy to do mention then again they're asking for lava to be changed to which extensions i don't know of
We kiiinda already have Abyss Crag integration plans
tw*tter
you will be fired again
also there's been two suggs about making lower abyss scary uuuuuh void thingy now and
i just want to say the reason deep sea irl is scary isn't because your screen gets distorted or because there's tons of liquid venom there
🖕
@gray nebula among us kissing emote
edited it
and what's the Mist sea
i will now search for the calmaity twitter
I know ya'll can edit Lava and other liquids through a biome effect. At least giving it a damage effect.
Both the Sulphur Sea and the Brimstone Crag do this to water and lava respectively
custom liquids are actually apparently more than feasible ty tml 1.4
it's just not gonna happen because we already have plans 
aren't they still not implemented, all i remember is that you can now add more than 1 (easily/without much hassle?) because there's more space for assigning them
huh
yeah
idk how you'd make lava not instantly turn to obsidian
not as easy as just making red lava yknow... yknow...
maybe suspend the timer for obsidian and water to interact that way while in the biome. I know lag spikes can cause weird water lava pools, so it could be a matter of time itself
You have added a good reason why, thank you

❤️
this is tied to many other things in the game so you'd probably break somehting
it's NOT among us kissing
then what is it
buddies
fair
what if the biome causes the interaction, but replaces Obsidian with another material? One that requires a very powerful pickaxe, takes a while to mine, and generates lava with a 100% chance upon breaking
that sounds both redundant and would literally just be a barrier
at that point just
keep abyss as is?
hmm, yeah another thing should be done. Maybe just cutting back the evaporation hitbox so the biome can go deeper
in any case at the end of the day i doubt the suggestion will pass because the devs already have their own plans about abyss and that
THAT'S what it IS
kissing creature
among us
amongusamongusamongusamongusamongusamongus
could you do this with fractured arc and its upgrades
especially the upgrades
Yeah, AotC litterally blows outside my screen
also for biome blade: maybe make it so it only shows the name of the attunement and you have to like shift to show the full desrciption
well yea but the function is
litterally the function
i don't want to make people hold shift to litterally know how to use a weapon

I mean... it's not a big deal to hold shift 
yes but im talking aboute average user experience
im putting the shift stuff because at times theres a lot of uneeded details that the average player would skim through and miss the important bits
Ohhhh
oh i see
so they dont even have to think about it and the stat nerds can have their expanded desc
if you need to hold shift to see the important part of the weapon it kinda kills it
Like, chippy trying to use the biome blade couldnt even understand how to use it at first
Maybe hide the less used part of the whole combo set like the up + RMB when full charge in AotC?
yeah, could work
tho like ideally no one would have to specifically look for it thatd be crungo

also for things like arc of the cosmos, is there any way to maybe make it show only one part of the text at a time?
to make it easier to read through and be less overwheleming
like maybe make it so it only shows one of the colors of text at a time
how
could hovering and pressing tab work?
thatd suck
or would that conflict
asi said i dont want to make players have to like do any effort to see the important parts
ik but the arc has three giant bricks of text which I feel like makes it harder to see the important bits
Just hide third
hey therye colored which at least draws the attention
true
amoognus
the rover quote when it
@subtle sapphire stop right there you criminal scum! /j
(You can't have more than 2 suggs in posting at the same time
i dont think building arenas is that bad in calamity imo
even without QoL
i mean, calam increases your block placing speed, there's your QoL
especially with the plan to make the press S to fall faster function effectively ignore platform, meaning that even hammered platform is fully redundant
(
(They have 3
ah sh*t, didn't know. My bad
I deleted the last one
it's not enouuuuuuuugh, I hate how when I'm making rows of platforms I'm going faster than the placement speed when using boots
how so ?
i mean like, the amount of block placing speed you would have would be a lot
it would feel weird n wacky
dunno, maybe. I'd need to try it to see
also, taking off ur boots is always an option
leave my boots alone è_é
and then the normal stuff like architect gizmo and builder pot as well
Already have them
@pastel crow When you get the chance, can you test Greatsword of Judgement against Providence VS AotE and Swordsplosion? It feels like it's overperforming by a fair bit.
you have enough build speed with builder potion + gizmo pack and on a slime mount, you build just at the same speed as your move speed
Attack speed is the most useless stat in rogue weapons because how much stealth strikes already charges and how it overpowers normal attacks
and attack speed are bound to be broken on anything that is not melee, unless it is negligeable amount
imagine if there is a ranged stat that increase gun fire rate
Tho rogue is a little exception here if to play only with stealth strikes
there are some weapons that do work with spam compare to on tier stealth, but ya, probably not worth balancing attack speed around
since in that case just have a different effect instead
It will overpower stealth strikes only if attack speed is soma prime 2.0
Petition to make abyss a sub world
no
no
Ark of the Elements
Greatsword of Judgement
@frosty trellis Both are too fast, but Ark is way more egregious than GoJ
and Swordsplosion is better than Ark
lul
Wow
I thought Goj was faster than Ark (with the exception of the guardians phase where it became hard to hit them with that, so I swapped over to ark to take out healer and defender) but I was dead freaking wrong
Lmao
I'm fine with Ark being stronger than the other weapons just bc it's harder to fully utilize, but good lord is ark just constantly overperforming unless your AotA, then you suck
Swordsplosion is insane though
Mabye should do more testing on Expert-Rev to get a better idea, since maybe Master-Death making the fights last a long while is inflating my sense of quickness
What's the supposed kill time and no hit time then? I'm not super familiar with that statistic and I don't know where to find it
OH
A lot of this is caused by the recent melee speed change, where melee speed is a 1 to 1 for extra damage % (1% melee speed = 1% damage)
also this shit apparently
solar armor giga buff
This is master-death btw lmaohttps://media.discordapp.net/attachments/984719131846787125/993718153043521656/unknown.png
Solar Armor is currently broken as all shit against DoG
Since the Solar Armor and Asgards Valor/Elysian Aegis dash can be spammed together
So you just outrun DoG forever before phase 3, in which he has a slight speed advantage on you, but you can dash up and away from him so fast it doesn't matter
Which I assume is not indented
But it made DoG braindead as shit outside of dodging some of his laser attacks
@tight vessel See the Suggestion Don'ts doc in pins
It's okay
@fallen cradle - Your suggestion has received an updated status!
[Remove Scarred Angelfish]
It has officially been implemented into the game, and will be available in the next update!
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message
Shoutouts to this justification against removal
good bye to the OP potion that no one use (unless they use luiafk)
blood orb moment
(just kill normal enemy spawn rate on blood moon and basically make blood moon fishing the main way to acquire blood orb, problem solve)
@ivory valley Elfinlock's set, along with other items that existed in 1.3 TML with the blue text along the lines of "Thanks for your support" is not from Calamity. It's from TML itself.
Apparently TML has its own mods that add that now instead of tacking it onto the base game without additional info about it.
thanks chief
@echo cloud you could keep the descriptions, but remove the names and just use something “Hive mind/perf whip” or “post dog whip” etc
I'm near certain that the devs have plans for post-DoG whips already though, so I'll end this here. I hope at least one of my little ideas inspires something awesome.
No we don't, sorry.
you're right, i could, but which would you rather say; "levithan and anahita themed whip" or "whiptide"
it's just easier to discuss this way lmao
The first so your suggestion doesn't get deleted.
Anyways, we don't have any plans to add any whips yet into Calamity, we got a lot to deal with the current ones.
huh
well, i've removed the names and it gives me a little room to add one more whip idea
But Eventually™️, we'll add them, Eventually™️.
but the one one i got is the (obvious) draedon arsenal whip
oh shit wait
just had a brainblast hang on
updated
added a draedon whip idea and an exhumed whip idea
Whipz
indeed
i read the rules dw, i'm not gonna come in here and try to make hyper specific items; it's y'all's game, not mine
i just had a few ideas i thought were good as springboards
especially the lunatic cultist one, because afaik there's no tribute to the future bosses in the mod
good sugg
<3
yeah good suggestion
but i think that a meld construct whip would fit in better than stardust whip for two reasons
meld is rogue tho
1- Meld currently has no summoner weapon
2- This would give Stardust fragments 3 items, which is more than the rest
meld has three weapons belonging to other classes
oh it does
god's bellows as a ranged flamethrower, tome of fates as a (well) tome and whatever the melee weapon is called
good call
meld also works better for a vaguely lunatic cultist themed item
done, thanks
Entropic Claymore
Reminder that the suggestion has ❗ .
yeah, so how do i fix that
Uh, seeing this suggestion, well, it's complicated.
i assume the ❗ was added because of the names or something similar, which i've removed
It was added because wether the suggestion existed or not, we were going to add whips anyways.
so it's an issue with the header?
It's an issue with the suggestion.
kinda difficult to fix that then
as i understand it, that's in relation to future calamity content
technically since calamity is on 1.4, whips are an existent piece of content
that's how i read that rule anyways
y3ah but calamity whips aren't
sure, but read the reasoning outlined in the rule itself
a dev already came in to this chat earlier and said there are no plans for calamity whips yet (post-DoG at very least)
right?
And the ideas might be kind of unnecesary? Becuase we're probably going to do our own ideas. But that's just me.
There isn't any Calamity whips planned yet.
all i gave were ideas, that's it; and considering you guys currently don't have any, i did nothing more than provide a few
i genuinely struggle to see the problem
Ok, to put it basically the problem of the suggestion, as Rover said.
We have planned to add Calamity's whips at some point, we don't when or how, but some day. And this suggestion is just "Yeah, do that".
And the ideas are... there? I guess?
the suggestion is not at all "Add Calamity Whips"
the suggestion is "Here are some ideas for Calamity Whips, since you're gonna add some at some point"
Ok, so the suggestion is just the ideas.
Well, we are probably going to do our own thing, without following the suggestion.
your own thing that currently doesn't exist?
on that sense the suggestion is also like... very generic?
it has to be; that's the rules 
to me it will be the equivalent of "add whips at certain main progression tier", which is like, gonna happen anyway?
^
but ya, sadly that is just the case (you have to be specific enough while without being specific)
Everytime someone wants a weapon it's always in any of these tiers.
Which I'm going to be honest, it's boring.
We can be more unique.
Or not, who knows.
okay fine, i'm gonna delete this and resubmit a single idea that i can expand upon a bit
the strongest idea of the lot
hang on
I think the main problem is just as currently the devs are not planning to add calamity whips soon therefore whips suggestions will be judged more harshly
cool
Okay, straight up honest, we don't want to add whips to Calamity, we got enough headaches with the Vanilla ones.
But we must add Calamity whips at some point, it's just like things are.
ya I can imagine, even with % whips damage it is already a massive issue
We do not know how to balance whips.
you cant have early whips that just say "this give only 3% damage" because the late game one only give 10% (to reach expected 10% boost previously from holding summon weapon)
whips are weird, yes
And people saying "Add more whips" or "These ideas for whips", it's like, bro, we don't want more, we want first to deal with what we have.
Which is already very hard.
the only way this will come close to working is like, generically nerf all summon weapon damage by like 30% and balance whips from there, but that approach is also mega painful
i'll save my one really good whip idea in a filing cabinet for later then
i'll submit it at a later date when whips have a more stable place in the mod
Expect months.
i mean i'm fine waiting years lmao
Just kidding... unless?
i'm persistent
but not stupid
if whips are more trouble than they're worth rn then i'll hold off
Thank you.
np
for context, its the meld blob one; that one had the most reasoning and most interest imo
that one was more than just "whip for this part of progression :)"
I'm persistent and stupid
"Simple".
sinply add a boss fight
awesome
The idea itself is simple but the implementation isn’t, it just kinda makes more sense imo to get the sword from senator just like in the actual game
If they wanna delete it go ahead its too much effort to format lmao
they should add monsoon too because if murasama and armstrong are there it would only make sense to add monsoon
Its fine tbh if they dont do any of that
But where in gods name does yharon fit in with murasama
Ancient jungle god unlocks ability to use the most futuristic weapon added
ancient jungle god
ancient jungle got m URAS ama
it just makes sense
Wait until they learn what murasama is based on
Even sama isn't too advanced compared to exo shit
Big energy sword, yea
i guess it has to be kind of futuristic if it has an ID lock
@ashen warren you're being a jokester, right?
no like, this suggestion isnt allowed and were explaining why
Just make it so that you fight sundowner to get red sun
Why dont you read out my rights while your at it
They didnt say anything about minibosses
- half of the items in this mod are references from other gsmes
Games*
Doesnt mean there needs to be more.
just read the pinned document
Bro its fine they wont add it and you know that already
then what r u being difficult for lol
Just putting it out there
great thanks
If they want to they can
it wont do anythin'
I wont fight back
Seems like they dont care enough to remove it, ill leave it thanks
especially something as large as a whole ass boss from an entire other game
just because a mod hasnt seen it yet lmao
it's exclaimed, it'll be deleted by the bot
Ah well
that too
I wont fight back, as i said
all is well
not really much else to discuss about it
it'll just auto delete in 24 hours and you will move on with your day
ooo youll move on with your day oooo
more sensible mgrr reference would be like to have a Milano/Armstrong statue or sum shit
but thats also just a reference for the sake of reference

my reaction
a sensible mgrr reference is none of them 
so true oomfie
murasama explodes, rev gets renamed, draedon's heart entirely ripped
99% sure next update will have a reference
This mod loves refences, nothing wrong with that
But why not take some of those from the players
Well see next big boi update
there is one i can think of
Yep
Most references are just that, donator items
yea that's what most donors want
Some rich guy will most likely add another
Exactly
They want to be in the game
So might aswell make a cool item
, a reference
Most of the time
Some people are cool and make original stuff
either way you can't donate for a new item anymore
There's 2 items I would get as a donor, an endgame sniper that looks like a swors, or a massive syringe that causes a fuckton of debuffs
damn
Oh thats nice
there'll still be new donor items in the coming updates but those are all from the backlog from before donor items were closed off
Ive been saving before i knew cslamity was a thing
new dog tier reward is access to updates [UNSPECIFIED AMOUNT OF TIME] before release
I just focused on tryna get a donator item and now i cant do that
It's a week or two I've got you guys STUDIED
I mean, unspecified for the public. 
Ah well i probably would get a pre golem item
No you don't, silly.
unspecified in general
The random dude that got dog tier once he heard about it didn't exactly help
isnt it a week
When it was possible was it more expensive for better items?
Or all the same price, just generally make sense for terraria standards
for 2.0 DoG tier got early access a good month or so before the update actually dropped because the devs had no planned release date until the final stages
yeah it is specified publicly to be a week
whether or not it is true is a different question
ah
it's supposed to be a week
donators on their way to pay 50 bucks to fabsol to use their item once and never again
for 2.0 it just wasn't due to the nature of the update's development
Shrödinger.
2.0 is a bit of a different case
A little bit different...
9 weeks 
Seems about right.
@blazing blade You need to add a reason to your suggestion
Also if you're referring to the crag's upcoming rework then the suggestion isn't allowed
Oh, huh,yeah alright
I'll just delete it in that case
I've had that idea since yesterday since I've heard that ravager would get shifted to both crags and post providence
Indeed he will
And by the concept art, he'd fit in the graveyard just fine
what was the lore with ravager again
corpse golem
Fits then
fair enuf
Like to stay with the general looks, the corpes of all who died to SCal destroying the place, melded together with some dark magic
prolly wont happen but
I can dream
Understandable
also im crying so hard
ppl that got all their mrgrr information from internet memes
its sams sword 😭 you just get it unlocked during the armstrong fight
yharon's first name is sam
but without the whole context of having beaten sam before it makes no sense to get it from the senator
😇
omw to rename and slightly rework muramasa into something like idk
hardlight sword or something cool
too many mods are doing their unique and creative muramasas
Time to make 8 millionth suggestion about murasama unsheathing attacks
the only thing i know for real from stars above is pretty badass 😳
or keep the name and rework it into a bland true melee broadsword out of pure spite 

At iba
Mgrr fans when one of their 3 memes gets removed 
3?
Rough estimate
murasama*
the boss health bar too
just add senator as a final boss
Yharim is the senator.
draedon is the voice guy
yharim isnt a tyrant, he was duely elected from a pool of candidates of the people's peers. who was in the pool? well, yharim and uhhhhhh... that was it. but it was an election!
@swift sinew you dont need to include that last part, just saying it doesnt indicate that the nerf is in effect when you're not using a summon weapon is enough
@subtle sapphire hmm i understand the idea, and while this would work for bosses like WoF who demand this sort of thing, i dont think it's necessary for most, and would more often get in the way. ive heard that the subworlds might be used for this purpose for some of the bosses once they get inplemented, but for naturally generating structures inside existing biomes it just feels weird
I mean, is it really more weird than the big room in the jungle temple for Golem ?
well no pre-golem pickaxe can mine lihzahrd bricks, so it makes sense
Oh, true, forgot about this
I loathe making arenas so much I even forget when you can't build arenas
#suggestions-voting message
Holy crap this is such an underrated suggestion, do y'all know how many times I died to something like crabulon spawning a mushroom that immediately hits me or perforators having an orb fly that you have to guess where it lands??
Isn't Crabulon passive when you spawn him until you hit him?
@unreal orbit all the enemies you're mentioning already have beastiary entries
but they don't have descriptions
I mean like a text-based description
not just a picture and stats
oh
lmao
guest time to take it down lol
good attempt
why is making an arena so dreaded wtf
you don't even need an arena that big for pre-hm
^
the mod already increases building speed too
I mean, I personally go so far as to just use cheat sheet for arena building, using Fargo's as a way to get a general outline or for phm arenas that don't need to be complicated
I build a big long platform for wall of flesh time to do the Demoman Strat... oh wait by beautiful platform
the only area i think deserves to have a rework to appeal more to an arena is hell for WoF because of how much of a pain in the ass it is, but also people are just saying to change the AI so that isnt a problem
and a lot of those have passed so
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
ok i know this is a frequently posted sugg but i do wonder when this will get adressed
i suppose its on the pile
cal players when they realize porting was finished less than a month ago
(it isn't really)
I meant as in
when this will get adressed
they kinda haven't had the time to deal with it thanks to porting
its been an issue since 1.5
people generally tend to do that
it's not like any of the reactions matter beyond the first one anyway
people love pressing the funny react yeah
I'll vote aswell
was there a suggestion to make the charge stations go faster?
OK I saw it and haha funny meme but you fucked it up
Murasama isn't Armstrong's weapon
Its Jetstream Sam's
yamato when
depends on which yamato you're talking about (never)
I am definitely not coping for a very specific reason
I would also appreciate if other (currently) one-of-a-kind items were obtainable through other means, but idk how they'd be obtained
@proud plinth Why do you think this would be an improvement?
The Biome Blade change, that is.
You just say it'd be "kinda neat"
its more of a change than an improvement, cuz i try to hit worm enemies in the wall and get flung across the room, but then when im navigating the world i hit the ground at an angle to propel myself, so currently its an annoyance and a great mobility tool, i just think if you only got flung when striking a surface it would take more skill to utilize said mobility tool and potentially clear up atleast some of the annoyance that it has currently, perhaps it could even be upon striking a surface visible to the player
like i said it would really just be kinda a neat alternative to play around with, its not a nerf nor improvement its just a tweak in my eyes
Alright you can add all of that context to the suggestion, it would strengthen it
@bright crag out of principle, no
we have plans to make legendaries renewable for whenever we implement more of their better obtainment methods
plus adding them to fishing crates kinda, ruins the point of the whole find its parts in different labs and whatnot
however it would also lengthen it, which is apparently bad (bad to have suggestions go into detail)
just gonna exclaim it since we arent gonna do this ever
But the Core is in a confirmed location...?
That's fine, I'm glad to know they'l be renewable eventually
Sorry if the instructions were unclear
It is good to have a lengthy reason, it is bad to have lengthy specifications
the core is in a confirmed location bc its supposed to intentionally be a clue to find the other parts
so that u dont like accidentally go on a run and never find it
oh right, yeah ill prob add that then
wait really?
thats besides the point anyway
yes
do u not know of the MarieArk project ™️
speaking of let me ask her how its going

Generally, what are the plans for Legendaries?
Making them have unique obtainment methods
When i hack into the calamity trello I'll tell you more
make every single one obtainable through a unique challenge or world-gen or environment puzzle
So, Legendaries...
Found
Craftable
Dropped
Components dropped
Components found...?
👍
half of them are waiting for future content
bc of the new biomes/whatever and whatnot
Hmmm
I see
They will all be different, not a standardized method
cept for the renewability
That will be unified to one thing
Wdym?
So there will be one standardized "way" of obtaining renewable Legendaries?
I see
That sounds great
And very creativity-intensive
we drafted all of them already actually

i can literally send you the text file if u want
On shpc buff the orb explosion attack and make the explosion not dust when
unfortunately, your name isnt orange
make it a suggestion so we dont forget
i keep forgetting to ask abt that
I'm a dev I have a colored name :clueless:
can i sugg for both the dust thing and the buff thing
convince someone to vote you into tester territory and work as our slave for a year
then maybe your name will magicallychange color
yeah suggest it like uh
"improve SHPC"
Technically i can't but oh my god suggs are a pain
Uh hm
actually
Imagine that being taken seriously :lo
make it separate

is this the m
bc balancing is different from visuals
die
It's fine, I trust you guys to make great Legendaries
u could genuinely try

crying
Anyways visuals matter more
we could use more stat frogs
Don't know if I have the time to be a tester
Depends on how much time it takes
your name is green actually🤓
I don't know who to ping i don't work under options
its entirely voluntary
ping blast
So true
There's a list in pins.
but we expect you to like not go MIA unnotified
actually ykw im lazy
someone eelse ask
Do people actually do that...?
Is that the "life" people keep talking about
Improve SHPC visually
SHPC is one of the former legendaries and currently the only one that has its more interesting obtainment method implemented. While the weapon itself is cool and awesome, it's main attack-the exploding orbs- could use a visual overhaul. Currently it's a cloud of dust that generated a lot of light that doesn't properly communicate the explosion AoE.
I don't know how to word this it sounds stupid
it's visuals i cannot not fall into the "it'd be better/cool"
The massive amount of light is hilarious btw don't remove that i use it for map revealing
Trolli
(It lags my game
Malachite got a sick sprite actually
Same as SHPC
Malice is my favorite/second favorite Legendary
like all of them tbh
asgards valour has the funny lighting thing like SHPC as well
on lower lighting modes, if you dash, your whole screen basically lights up
I haven't used SHPC yet
And in MP someone else has the Core 
well like i said its voluntary
when ppl know they cant test we just bump them down to inactive tester
i meant moreso like, we'd only vote you in if you're confident that you can contribute and do stuff
i mean, call me weird but testing does sound pretty funn
endless repetitive tasks my beloved
i could genuinely post a vote for you if u want venus i think ur capable of being reasonable and productive
I'd try my best
But dunno if I am that special tbh
Hmm
Can I get back to you later?
Ok, thanks ^-^



