Event Horizon, Tesla Cannon (bc draedon weapons are neat and the massive dmg is 
), Recitation of the Beast
#suggestions-discussion
crude geode
recitation of the beast is also only bc demon scythe is my favorite vanilla weapon and it isn't done anywhere else
dusty stirrup
Wow that's 2 touhou related weapons
crude geode
(touhou is cool)
dusty stirrup
Based
willow garden
should ban cursed being
crude geode
all the other feel kinda like they just exist to finish out a line of shit or just feel really hard to use (yharon is fassssst)
willow garden
whips like in vanilla 1.4?
sonic sigil
What about whips like in vanilla 1.4
crude geode
did you mean to do pinging with newly decided upon suggestions before getting distracted, or do you mean something else with that
unique vector
Denied
@river wave - #suggestions-voting message [Make the seraph tracers and upgrades give you low gravity immunity]
@deft yew - #suggestions-voting message [Make the Truffle sell Truffle Worms instead of Amidias]
@small tusk - #suggestions-voting message [Make Cosmolight a Pre-HM Item]
@long bone - #suggestions-voting message [Make Phasesabers reflect laser projectiles]
@grim tusk - #suggestions-voting message [Make starter bag have 1-2 Calming potions]
@crystal cedar - #suggestions-voting message [Give more bosses unique Expert Mode bags]
@wise raven - #suggestions-voting message [Add an Endless Star Pouch]
@carmine lantern - #suggestions-voting message [Show the segments of Desert Scourge, The perforators, Aquatic Scourge, Astrum Deus, Storm Weaver, and DOG phase 1 on the mini map.]
crude geode
pog
unique vector
Approved
@river glen - #suggestions-voting message [NPC's such as amiadias or the guide should hint the player what happens when Rod of discord or Normality Relocator is being used in the abyss]
@neon panther - #suggestions-voting message [Add an environmental control upgrade to the Cell Phone.]
@snow slate - #suggestions-voting message [Make the Guide NPC "advice" talk option say about Calamity hidden mechanics]
@oak sage - #suggestions-voting message [Add a Brimstone Lava Fountain]
snow slate
unique vector
@frank ridge - #suggestions-voting message [Have Draedon leave if no Exo Mech is chosen after a certain amount of time, for example, a minute.]
@weary ledge - #suggestions-voting message [Have the Mechanical Bosses drop some of the ores they unlock when defeated with the Early Hardmode Progression Rework Enabled]
@small timber - #suggestions-voting message [Add Distinctive Indicator That Moon Lord Eyes Is Dead]
@cobalt pewter - #suggestions-voting message [Make Great Sand Shark drop Light and Dark Shards.] (may modify this suggestion upon implementation after further discussion)
@half sage - #suggestions-voting message [Change the flying carpet recipe to make it craftable in prehardmode]
@warped lichen - #suggestions-voting message [Make Astrum Deus' second phase where he splits into two have connected hp the same way XS-03 Apollo and XS-01 Artemis have theirs.]
@eager hollow - dupe suggestion about cryogen projectile visibility, already approved
On our developer To-Do/Already in our plans
@river glen - #suggestions-voting message [The dungeon should accommodate the need of large space for Ceaseless Void and Polterghast]
just fyi, we're all done with backlogged suggestions
sonic sigil
You guys really put in a lot of suggestions work recently
unique vector
aside from a few that are still under our 2-day voting period, every single one should have been forwarded to our end
crude geode
thank you devs
half sage
unique vector
@hollow shell will probably update the pin here with how the bot will normally work from now on
snow slate
hollow shell
Yes I will do that soon
unique vector
pagman
jagged spade
any updates on my suggestion
sonic sigil
Whichy one
hollow shell
It was approved
snow slate
It was approved
neon panther
approved = not necessarily getting inputted but more likely right?
hollow shell
It was forwarded to the devs and then the devs also liked the suggestion
jagged spade
mhm
neon panther
wonderful 😄
neon panther
thanks devs!
sonic sigil
What's the highest star count a suggestion has gotten?
long bone
I'm honestly suprised that my phasesaber suggestion was considered at all
hollow shell
I remember some in the past have gotten over 400
But I've never seen higher than 500
sonic sigil
Oh I expected higher
neon panther
still sad minimasa got rejected
don't have the heart to request it again bc I don't wanna be disappointed again
hollow shell
Indeed
This server may have thousands of members but only a fraction of them are active, and only a fraction of them look at and vote on suggestions
long bone
I got 180 stars
sonic sigil
if everyone was active it would be anarchy
jagged spade
Indeed
This server may have thousands of members but only a fraction of them are...
i look and vote on them when im bored
crude geode
I only have the sugg channels active
snow slate
Indeed
This server may have thousands of members but only a fraction of them are...
Tbh thats a good thing, that makes that the players that are invested in Calamity are the ones who votes
grim tusk
Well rip having first day be a bit more chill
unique vector
just as a reminder, you're always free to ask for why something got rejected or whatnot
unless it pertains somehow to future/conflicting plans
carmine lantern
oh yea ill ask for the segments suggestion
jagged spade
oh yea ill ask for the segments suggestion
i would like to know too
unique vector
the segments one sparked a discussion on our end but it was unanimously no iirc
lemme find the convo
snow slate
just as a reminder, you're always free to ask for why something got rejected or ...
Why showing the worm bosses segment was rejected? To painful to implement?
grim tusk
I think the answer of my most recent sugg is extremely easy to infer given the direction the mod has moved on since 1.5
hollow shell
grim tusk
Although its finally began to fix many of the mistakes
jagged spade
Why showing the worm bosses segment was rejected? To painful to implement?
i dont think its hard to implement
carmine lantern
Why showing the worm bosses segment was rejected? To painful to implement?
dont act like that
unique vector
(okay this was the only conversation i can find)
snow slate
dont act like that
It was a question 
unique vector
the vote was 0 - 7 iirc
carmine lantern
It was a question <:BrimFace:659155572939292682>
sorry my bad sounded like sas
carmine lantern
the vote was 0 - 7 iirc
damn
frank ridge
I was pinged?
carmine lantern
welp a no is a no rip segments idea
hollow shell
I personally rejected it because the full body segments is what makes DoG2 and Thanatos special, and it's more necessary for them because they're so massively long
crude geode
ratio'd by ozz
jagged spade
(okay this was the only conversation i can find)
oh hey can i also ask if there's been a convo related to my suggestion
carmine lantern
alright, i only suggested the idea cause its like hey it feels weird it only shows the head on the mini map ill suggest segments
jagged spade
you made several afiak
only one approved
unique vector
oh
jagged spade
wall of flesh despawn
carmine lantern
Wof despawn is good
unique vector
i dont think there was a convo related to it
lol
kind of a straightforward suggestion
jagged spade
alright
unique vector
I think the answer of my most recent sugg is extremely easy to infer given the d...
surprising no conversation happened with this
it wasa a 2-4 vote, i voted yes
jagged spade
Wof despawn is good
yeah well i finally wont have to reenter my world
snow slate
Im glad that mine suggestion was accepted, its a pain to explain the hidden mechanics to my friends when i can just say them “ask the guide”
unique vector
but like also giving free calming potions you can use whenever you'd like is probably why ppl voted not
so yea
jagged spade
plus it just doesnt make sense that other bosses despawn when you die but WoF refuses to do that
unique vector
wof not despawning is a vanilla mechanic so
crude geode
"[Give more bosses unique Expert Mode bags]"
I assume this was rejected bc expert mode is getting stuff removed?
unique vector
lemme see if ppl talked about that
grim tusk
but like also giving free calming potions you can use whenever you'd like is pro...
thats one thing that i infered; question: was Fab one of the ones that voted no?
unique vector
i dont think we're outright removing bags
half sage
I thought the expert items themselves were going but bags stayed
unique vector
is there a reason you'd want to know that specifically storm, or is this gonna spark an unnecessary debate
sonic sigil
I thought the expert items themselves were going but bags stayed
Items are staying but being made available on every difficulty
unique vector
in full honesty: fab did not look at 99% of the suggestions that ccame through until earlier today
dusty stirrup
Bags are just made all modes because it's literally a QoL feature
unique vector
so i doubt he even voted on it
half sage
yea I meant them being exclusive to expert was going
unique vector
"[Give more bosses unique Expert Mode bags]"
I assume this was rejected bc exper...
no discussion
half sage
Bags are just made all modes because it's literally a QoL feature
👿 my child will dump their loot all over the floor
👼 my child will have all their loot in one convenient bag
unique vector
dont really have an answer for you since i voted yes
snow slate
plus it just doesnt make sense that other bosses despawn when you die but WoF re...
Because of how bosses work. They despawn when they are to far away from the player, but to prevent that from WOF(because it would be annoying that you get far away and ot dissapear on the middle of the combat) and it also prevents players from escaping from wow
sonic sigil
Make it despawn when all players are on the surface
west jackal
Just make it despawn when you aren’t in the underworld
sonic sigil
Or no players in hell
west jackal
Yeah
grim tusk
is there a reason you'd want to know that specifically storm, or is this gonna s...
Fab seems to be taking a lot of design philosophies from Isaac and Dark Souls and although the intent is likely good, most of the things (although most fixed, especially TDR, fuck that thing) seem to just encourage the players to git gud and use metas rather than to experiment and find around stuff like the sandbox Terraria is and Cal used to feel like pre-1.5
jagged spade
Make it despawn when all players are on the surface
grim tusk
Its good that the game is being made harder, but I have a feeling some stuff is unnecessarily harsh
jagged spade
its just straightforward
west jackal
Its good that the game is being made harder, but I have a feeling some stuff is ...
That isn’t always a good thing
sonic sigil
God do not make it despawn on player death
Some people need to have multiple deaths in the wof fight
jagged spade
when everyone is dead
unique vector
Fab seems to be taking a lot of design philosophies from Isaac and Dark Souls an...
he does not like isaac
hes stated multiple times before that he dislikes isaac for how rng it can get
snow slate
he does not like isaac
Nobody likes isaac.
But at the same time, we love it
unique vector
also
i fully disagree that cal felt that way pre-1.5
its not much better in 1.5 but we're actually moving towards a more balanced experience
with more versatility and stuff
crude geode
(isaac is just a bad game lol)
grim tusk
its not much better in 1.5 but we're actually moving *towards* a more balanced e...
great to hear
unique vector
calming potions at the start of the game is just kinda unnecessary
that is all i think
sonic sigil
its not much better in 1.5 but we're actually moving *towards* a more balanced e...
Isn't that just always the goal
snow slate
calming potions at the start of the game is just kinda unnecessary
Especially since the early game mega buff
unique vector
old cal was more focused on boss rushes
crude geode
I think the taking a year off to balance things helped (I had hoped as much byeah it was possible it didn't)
dusty stirrup
Isn't that just always the goal
Can't say it always was the goal
Finally not focusing on bosses so aweasome
grim tusk
old cal was more focused on boss rushes
ok I have to agree that was shit on pre-1.5
dusty stirrup
👍
snow slate
old cal was more focused on boss rushes
And multiplying damage numbers to an oblivion
unique vector
phup spearheading the player experience ™️
grim tusk
@crude geode lashes of chaos too
its literally inf fork but better
forbidden sun is at least some tiers away
crude geode
1
grim tusk
but Lashes is same tier lol
crude geode
it's 1 tier away lol
carmine lantern
<a:explosion:763586070020751370>
240 mana
crude geode
<a:explosion:763586070020751370>
me when the mage effect
dusty stirrup
I WILL TAKE CARE OF MAGE EFFECTS!!!!
unique vector
fuck ranger
crude geode
always the same combos every time
me when I use class setups 
snow slate
always the same combos every time
Mage and ranger post-moonlord become the same thing
unique vector
im taking all the guns and adding magic effects to them and stealing them
dusty stirrup
Ranger and mage need love
It is a thing that is being looked at
crude geode
im taking all the guns and adding magic effects to them and stealing them
based
unique vector
steampunk subclass
grim tusk
Point blank shooting was exciting to hear at first but then disappointment
snow slate
steampunk subclass
dusty stirrup
Ranger only gets point blank shooting (dies)
dusty stirrup
It's a peepoweird mechanic
snow slate
(Its only to look cool when you kill a trash enemie)
grim tusk
(literally what was told sounded more exiting than the result lol)
sleek wadi
Ranger weapons do just be shoot bullet/arrow tho
jagged spade
(we told people point blank shooting isnt going to be a big thing)
point blank shooting ❌
true ranger ✅
dusty stirrup
Make every ranger weapons hellborn
west jackal
(we told people point blank shooting isnt going to be a big thing)
When it’s in every single tooltip
crude geode
(literally what was told sounded more exiting than the result lol)
"This mechanic will allow you to do far more damage when enemies are shot at very close range."
carmine lantern
<a:explosion:763586070020751370>
also 1.6 weapon leaked
unique vector
so true
crude geode
that's literally the mechanic as it was introduced
grim tusk
true ranger ❌
Boomer shooter ranger
carmine lantern
funni boom boom
sleek wadi
Ranger got no drip
unique vector
dont point fingers at me i never had a hand in its implementation
sonic sigil
Make every ranger weapons hellborn
That's one of the most decisions I've ever seen
dusty stirrup
I'm very skilled at video game desongning
west jackal
Make every gun work like that one plantera drop
sonic sigil
Glad to have you on the dev team :)
fossil finch
sorry storm but it is true it's your fault you got hyped for pbs
shake my head my head
crude geode
yeah agree with ender here
dusty stirrup
Make every gun work like that one plantera drop
I forgor
sonic sigil
sorry storm but it is true it's your fault you got hyped for pbs
Plaguebringer Soliath??????
fossil finch
anyways i don't agree with mage being lame specially post ml
there is surely a good bit of weapons that need revising but no it's not like ranger where every weapon is the previous one with an extra projectile
unique vector
i agree
as the resident mage
half of it is cool as fuck
half of it is zzzzzzzzzzz
hot zephyr
mage is nowhere near as bad as ranger
crude geode
based pixl
fossil finch
nobody tbh
west jackal
The mod apparently smh
fossil finch
there is also the thing where designing cool ranger weapons is kinda lol
west jackal
Why it got so many ranger weapons
snow slate
Ranger its mage, but even worse lmao
dusty stirrup
Ranger just exists for the basic bitches
hot zephyr
honestly I feel like more people would complain if we gave unique spins on existing range weapons because half the people use the class for pure simplicity
grim tusk
changin the topic a bit: What do you think about buffing OD
fossil finch
ian is not wrong
fossil finch
changin the topic a bit: What do you think about buffing OD
no
jagged spade
changin the topic a bit: What do you think about buffing OD
what is od
snow slate
changin the topic a bit: What do you think about buffing OD
OD?
hot zephyr
perhaps a gun should stay a gun
jagged spade
oh old duke
crude geode
very true design ian
jagged spade
hell naw
snow slate
oh old duke
Yes
fossil finch
i do not agree with buffing od because i do not want people crying about how he's hard
i do not care if 1.5 made him live 3 seconds
hot zephyr
i think what OD needs the most, especially after 1.5 is a greater incentive for fighting the boss
snow slate
i do not agree with buffing od because i do not want people crying about how he'...
I want that
west jackal
honestly I feel like more people would complain if we gave unique spins on exist...
Those people are nerds
dusty stirrup
OD is a being
fossil finch
i agree with ian
grim tusk
people will fuckign cry
he feels so slow now, everything that is not a ram or vortex can be shrugged of by just equipping bloodflare core, and irradiated barely does anything alone at this stage
snow slate
I want that<:ultimatesmug:807498328693669918>
Revert Exo Mech nerfs
fossil finch
sorry storm but you are not the average player
crude geode
^^^^^
unique vector
i still think people hate OD for being too hard
snow slate
people CRIED about od
And?
unique vector
lol
crude geode
I really don't wanna run full quick and reaver just to dodge a boss ngl
snow slate
Its optional
grim tusk
people CRIED about od
1.4.4 OD was 3 times harder than fucking Malice
hot zephyr
od needs an accessory, armor, or whatever to ground itself in progression because now post-curve flattening the bump in power isn't that useful
grim tusk
actually 3 times is prob an understatement
fossil finch
an armor could be a good idea
west jackal
Rouge weapons
grim tusk
wings
west jackal
More of them
dusty stirrup
Fishing Armor
grim tusk
Rouge weapons
has 2 of em (although twister is complete garbage)
hot zephyr
silence pixl
unique vector
no more armorsno more armorsno more armors
hot zephyr
more armors
crude geode
Fishing Armor
TRUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
unique vector
Fishing Armor
the one acceptable armor*
fossil finch
because
Wow is that a unique class armor that adds variety to the game????
It could even be a rogue armor )upgrade to sulphur
Or a fishing armor yes
fossil finch
yes what ian is saying
snow slate
I think that OD has the same problem as Exo.
The combat becomes easy if you make an gigant arena, something that the common player doesnt do
grim tusk
because
Wow is that a unique class armor that adds variety to the game????
It co...
if rogue gets a post-ML exclusive armor it should be either signus or darksun related, more thematically fitting
fossil finch
not really
we already set up the relation with having a phmode rogue acid rain armor so uh lol!
it is a common and popular thing specially with darksun because umbra exists byeah
it is not obligatory need be to be darksun/signut armor
unique vector
no more armors
grim tusk
people CRIED about od
also most people cried cuz they though they could bruteforce it with glass cannon like with DoG lol
unique vector
legitimately
hot zephyr
boohoo
fossil finch
sorry but we need postml armor variety
unique vector
do not ask us to add more armors that fuck up an entire chunk of balacning
snow slate
also most people cried cuz they though they could bruteforce it with glass canno...
I think it was because people only make a one platform arena lmao
hot zephyr
i will be doing the balancing
add the armors
grim tusk
I think it was because people only make a one platform arena lmao
that too
unique vector
okay tell me what would make an armor more variety
dusty stirrup
Armor will be added when it is seen fit for new content
unique vector
+10 damage vc +10 crit?
fossil finch
and it's good
dusty stirrup
fossil finch
people automatically do not use the same armor every single pt, which means variety, which is good
jagged spade
i will literally fucking cry if we add more armors
spriting and balancing
hot zephyr
gemtech
unique vector
patrons when they ask for the 100th armor set request
snow slate
There is already a bazillion armor
fossil finch
like just look at the amount of phmode armors
you have a ton of cool options
dusty stirrup
Gemtech is legit cool and it fills a cool niche (and it was planned to be added since forever)
snow slate
like just look at the amount of phmode armors
you have a ton of cool options
And you only choose the same ones
unique vector
all armors are just varients of stat sticks
fossil finch
not really
unique vector
there are times where variance is not a good thing
armor variance is not a good thing right now
snow slate
there are times where variance is not a good thing
Add a lot pf variety will only confuse the player
west jackal
armor variance is not a good thing right now
💀
unique vector
at least, damage-based armors
fossil finch
except it is??
Post ml has literally like 3 armors
hot zephyr
considering the silva/god slayer split already has made post-ml more interesting
crude geode
^^^^
unique vector
count the armors again n eko
hot zephyr
you have a very narrow perspective of what armor could be
fossil finch
it is very uninteresting to use the same armor every single pt for every single class
grim tusk
there are times where variance is not a good thing
rogue acc bloat
west jackal
With the same set bonus
grim tusk
:troll:
unique vector
slowly going insane
snow slate
it is very uninteresting to use the same armor every single pt for every single ...
There are 5 classes(3 because mage and ranger its the same thing lmao) 3 different playstyles
unique vector
armors SUCK for balancing i am not going to be happy if i have to test another armor set
fossil finch
adding armor variance so people don't just go tarragon bloodfare godslayer silva auric is good
unique vector
post ML rebalancing 2 electric boogaloo
hot zephyr
then have me test it 💀
fossil finch
then don't test yourself lo
unique vector
telling me not to do my job
west jackal
Exo armor that is more focused on defensive abilities than damaging ones
unique vector
fossil finch
it's simple,
hot zephyr
then you have only yourself to blame
dusty stirrup
Exo armor that is more focused on defensive abilities than damaging ones
Already planned
unique vector
ok but exo armor was already planned for a while
west jackal
I’m so fucking smart
dusty stirrup
👨🦲
hot zephyr
gemtech
fossil finch
i like your job or whatever
fossil finch
keep doing the calamity
unique vector
die die die
crude geode
nohitter making a buff boss suggestion 😪
unique vector
on a serious note though armor variance is the least of our worries and if we ever do add armors that arent just, funny self-insert patron requests, then i am never going to be involvedin it
they give me headaches
dusty stirrup
😸
crude geode
this sugg is gonna get like 20 stars storm
hot zephyr
armor variance is probably the second biggest issue with post-ml
unique vector
omg a not hit tweet
snow slate
on a serious note though armor variance is the least of our worries and if we ev...
How about varieties on weapons instead of armors
unique vector
SO true
west jackal
Both
dusty stirrup
Too many calamity issues must fix all immediately GRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
fossil finch
Too many calamity issues must fix all immediately GRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
so true
hot zephyr
it's the turn of the hour, time to vote on another cryogen visibility suggestion!
dusty stirrup
9 times a week
fossil finch
i do not want any of this suggestions near me
unique vector
claamity players when they rank calamity issues by top 50
unique vector
graghghghhgajglks;djg
hot zephyr
please just delete cryogen at this point
then you definitely couldn't see the projectiles
fossil finch
idk just make cryo's projs glow rainbow
west jackal
Just make an actual castle to explore in the ice biome instead of a cube
unique vector
more generation
dusty stirrup
claamity players when they rank calamity issues by top 50
I would unironically read those in case there is legitemate feedback
unique vector
more morem ore
fossil finch
Just make an actual castle to explore in the ice biome instead of a cube
Dev Plans.png
unique vector
I would unironically read those in case there is legitemate feedback
i would too but my brain rn is like dying
unique vector
crude geode
understandable pixl
dusty stirrup
You should
hot zephyr
I would unironically read those in case there is legitemate feedback
feedza awakens
dusty stirrup
It saves time
unique vector
wait whats dev plans.png
dusty stirrup
Frankly don't know
crude geode
I wasn't gonna ask but if pixl is...
dusty stirrup
They sound good
unique vector
i dont know how to plan
crude geode
based
hot zephyr
i'm PLANing to vote no on another visibility suggestion
dusty stirrup
Layers upon layers of vague plans and docs and trellos
unique vector
dude imagine if we had a public roadmap, there'd be far less people complaining about issues we've thought of and shit for months but at the same time we'd receive infinitely more complaints about taking too long because some people dont understand how long game design takes
crude geode
dev plans.png is actually just the rework of the mod into a fishing minigame
dusty stirrup
hot zephyr
oh shit I caught a sturgeon
unique vector
Layers upon layers of vague plans and docs and trellos
i have no idea what a trello is
(im lying)
fossil finch
Sprite iban made for CalValPlus cryo summon (Yuh was adding a perma castle structure with an altar on it and asked for a summon to use at an altar)
It is quite literally Dev Plans.png
dusty stirrup
It'd be cool yeah but when the public roadmap changes then you get shit on massively
unique vector
GOD THATS REALLY FUNNY
fossil finch
dude imagine if we had a public roadmap, there'd be far less people complaining ...
so true
dusty stirrup
Sprite iban made for CalValPlus cryo summon (Yuh was adding a perma castle struc...
Holy shit
unique vector
also yes our internal plans shift like
west jackal
i'm PLANing to vote no on another visibility suggestion
Colorblind people:troll
unique vector
5 times a week
hot zephyr
50/50 shot if a roadmap either relaxes complaints or boosts then 50x over
granite sphinx
roadmap for calamity has the endgoal of "take over relogic" with no explanation
unique vector
no trust me ian
fossil finch
like just
absolute comedy
unique vector
you'd be more infuriated as a tester if u had to follow the 50 conversations we have each week
(if you're still infuriated u might as well be asking to be dev)
hot zephyr
unique vector
troll failed
crude geode
#suggestions-posting message
anyways speaking of suggestions
this sugg is bad but valid
it's going to receive like 40 updoots
grim tusk
i dont care if i get fucking smited alive
hot zephyr
as long as nobody gets any more stars it'll get sent
unique vector
omg a failed tweet
grim tusk
people just have memory of 1.4.4 OD's brutality
west jackal
Ratio him
dusty stirrup
Send OD to the shadow realm so he can train to be strong again
hot zephyr
if you flood #suggestions-posting with unpopular posts technically you could get anything to be submitted
unethical tip
crude geode
if you flood #suggestions-discussion instead of #suggestions-voting pretty sure you just get warned
fossil finch
ian do not the algorithm
hot zephyr
(aka Rover pulls a dungeon guardian and sends you to the shadow realm)
grim tusk
if you flood <#699359022364491868> with unpopular posts technically you could g...
2 suggs per day limit 
granite sphinx
time to suggest that Dungeon Guardian receive a full boss rework
hot zephyr
2 suggs per day limit <:CalAha:658886272152240167>
get some friends
granite sphinx
the true superboss
dusty stirrup
time to suggest that Dungeon Guardian receive a full boss rework
Eternity Mode
granite sphinx
stronger than Xeroc
west jackal
Yeah until you run in the opposite direction
hot zephyr
whoops gotta make a new world I already killed the earlygame boss, now I am locked out of content
unique vector
if u need to suggest more than two things a day there may be some thing wrong
somewhere
crude geode
get some friends
implying no-hitters have friends
kinda weirdchamp
unique vector
even i dont do that much every day
dusty stirrup
if u need to suggest more than two things a day there may be some thing wrong
wdym I'm pretty sure suggestions are just for clout
granite sphinx
whoops gotta make a new world I already killed the earlygame boss, now I am lock...
pretty sure there are no less than 4 popular mods that add ways to summon dg
unique vector
suggestion content creators
west jackal
I nohit and gave up at queen bee 😎💪
hot zephyr
suggestor role will one day be ereal
dusty stirrup
Today I am going to delete all my suggestions in protest against the specific item suggestions ban
crude geode
suggestor role is just no color
hot zephyr
Today I am going to delete all my suggestions in protest against the specific it...
TRUE
stiff wren
suggestor role and suggestion discusser role
Crewmate and suspostor role
Grim reality
unique vector
do devs actually have delete poersm in posting
hot zephyr
suggestor role unlocks the ability to un-star people's posts
grim tusk
do devs actually have delete poersm in posting
yes
west jackal
I am going to suggest a sword called the mega destroyer crusher that does 500 damage and it is made form shadowspec
grim tusk
suggestor role unlocks the ability to un-star people's posts
:godglasses:
crude geode
do devs actually have delete poersm in posting
"delete poersm"
you good there pixl
fossil finch
devs do not even have react perms in posting
Like they cannot exclaim
they should be able to
stiff wren
I am going to suggest a sword called the mega destroyer crusher that does 500 da...
Recipe:
1 rock
42 shadowspec bars
Halibut cannon
west jackal
devs do not even have react perms in posting
Like they cannot exclaim
they shoul...
Make a sugg for that smh
dusty stirrup
I am going to suggest a sword called the mega destroyer crusher that does 500 da...
Developper item (dedicated to me)
crude geode
devs do not even have react perms in posting
Like they cannot exclaim
they shoul...
iban is the reason devs don't have permission
unique vector
literally 1984
unique vector
(only two devs that arent mods check here)
fossil finch
still
unique vector
(everyone else waits for them to get sent)
crude geode
literally 1984
me when I can't downvote bad suggs 
sonic sigil
I am going to suggest a sword called the mega destroyer crusher that does 500 da...
Exactly 500 damage then you gotta make a new one
unique vector
altix has arrived
distant gyro
@viscid notch #suggestions-voting message Reaper Tooth Necklace damage boost is buffed from 10% to 15%. Buffs to armor penetration are unanimously denied.
@safe oasis #suggestions-voting message Revengeance now appears in the Starter Bag. Iron Heart is removed.
@echo lion #suggestions-voting message Charred Idol is crafted at a Hellforge instead of either Mythril Anvil or Adamantite Forge.
@shell grotto #suggestions-voting message Timed aggression has been removed.
@loud cloak #suggestions-voting message Astral Injection, Ceaseless Hunger Potion, Crumbling Potion, Draconic Elixir, Gravity Normalizer Potion, Holy Wrath Potion, Penumbra Potion, Photosynthesis Potion, Profaned Rage Potion, Revivify Potion, Shadow Potion, Shattering Potion, Soaring Potion, and Titan Scale Potion non-Blood Orb recipes can now be affected by Alchemy Table's ingredient reduction effect.
unique vector
is the day of reckoning upon us
west jackal
Quick someone do a boss sugg
unique vector
IT IS
safe oasis
<@!689848156459892737> https://discord.com/channels/225030931008847874/263382359...
thank you altix, very cool
distant gyro
when the user is invalid (twice)
crude geode
I'm the boss
as a fishing boss? like the legend from hit game stardew valley?
hot zephyr
That's how you win
sonic sigil
Timed Aggression gone les go
west jackal
Timed Aggression gone les go
Mfw that was in #changelogs
sonic sigil
I didn't know it was a suggestion
sonic sigil
timed aggression gone
🦀
west jackal
Calamity when it punishes you for going too fast and taking too long
deft yew
timed aggression gone
true melee yharon no longer completely and totally intolerable 
river glen
lets gooo
crude geode
the config for minor visual change
lapis canyon
Mfw there’s one for shaking intensity
crude geode
probably for people who are sensitive to that type of shit?
earnest ether
What would everyone suggest to make Astral Infection worth exploring underground?
earnest ether
One of the things I would suggest is to make astral ore spawn in the cavern layer in the biome
earnest ether
Am I being rude?
sonic sigil
No
sonic sigil
Am I being rude?
I'm just a very sarcastic person
earnest ether
K
And remove the meteor of astral ore in the biome
Then the Slime drop rate can be adjusted
So that it's much more efficient to go underground and mine the ore
half sage
ore slimes
crude geode
So random ass ore found underground #57?
But this time it’s the astral biome so it’s cool?
earnest ether
Well, it's one of the changes for the Astral Biome
dusty stirrup
Astral Biome's problem runs deeper than just astral ore placement
earnest ether
Well, is it a bad idea?
ashen warren
yes 
dusty stirrup
Not necessarily, it kinda interferes with our plans for astral biome though
earnest ether
exotic stag
future content
fossil finch
this is comedical because this exact thing is being removed from rev and above
crude geode
@crude barn That’s a bug
dusty stirrup
😎 👍
crude barn
<@486021452487852032> That’s a bug
I'm not saying "fix the bug lmao" but a failsafe if that ever happens
(iirc wasn't this a feature before?)
exotic stag
(just make storm weavers head his weakness instead)
crude barn
(just make storm weavers head his weakness instead)
(that also works)
cobalt pewter
don't think this fits sugg, as this is more of a bug
weary ledge
crude geode
@hollow shell does this not count as a bug suggestion?
hollow shell
Which one?
Oh
Yeah @crude barn Your suggestion's reasoning is based on a bug and on timed aggression being removed in the next update
crude geode
Can we possibly add “ping one of the following mods if they’re online” to suggestion edicate? I’ve seen a couple of times people not pinging mods for questioning whether something is valid or not, or just straight up forgetting to contact a mod about a invalid suggestion
crude geode
Yeah for sure
exotic stag
(literally make suggmod role)
crude geode
No
exotic stag
crude geode
We already have massively inflated egos because we (think we) understand game design do you want it to be worse
exotic stag
yeth
brittle pumice
just puttin this here
gentle fog
suddenly I can't remember if Yharon ever stopped attacking during the phase transition 1.4 lol
gentle fog
it's getting reduced to 5 from 15 seconds, just an fyi
the invulnerability period?
crude geode
yep
gentle fog
even with that change I think a short pause would be nice, in fact it might even be better to have a 5 second pause in the boss fight than a 15 second one lol
cause if he stopped attacking for 15 seconds while also being invulnerable that might be a bit boring
anyways as always with my suggestions, just an idea ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
pseudo wedge
shadowspec flail and spear.
small timber
yharon already have a short pause, it is just that the pause seems way too short compare to the current invul period
now that it will be changed to 5 second I think it is fine, unless by pause you don't mean "stop attacking" but have an entire phase transition "cutscene"
small timber
shadowspec flail and spear.
almost all shadowspec items are dedicated for devs or donor (especially for newly added ones), so unless a dev/donor ask for a flail or spear it simply is not gonna happen
pseudo wedge
almost all shadowspec items are dedicated for devs or donor (especially for newl...
oh ok
coarse tartan
almost all shadowspec items are dedicated for devs or donor (especially for newl...
Just donate and then suggest a flail/spear ez
small timber
I think they stop accepting new donor (more specifically donor purely for dedicated item), at least to my knowledge, they still accept donor just not donor item
since they already have a backlog of donor item to make
worthy lintel
donor items are kill since december 2020
(just don't tell the others its not impossible they come back in a distant future)
stable musk
Timed Aggression gone les go
sw: i can finally softlock people
novel belfry
donor items are kill since december 2020
that's been so fucking long ago
proper grail
donor items are kill since december 2020
Jesus it’s been almost two years since I donated, where did the time go
small timber
the dodge CD can be increased, it was too short on counter/evasion anyway
earnest raptor
what will be a point then?
small timber
so that you can still dodge projectile just not as often
even a 20/30 sec CD will at the very least make it worth using instead of being a meme compare to valor/aegis
earnest raptor
cool
so with combining scarf and ninja I can dodge every 45 seconds instead of 90 seconds!
cobalt pewter
you need donor permissions first and foremosf
earnest raptor
cobalt pewter
personally I'd rather see Black Belt line giving something while under global dodge CD
small timber
ya I guess I will try to ping the donor first to see if the change is even possible
forget evasion is donor item
also by the dodge cd I mean to give it 2 separate dodge, basically counter/evasion scarf dodge and the original, 90 sec auto dodge
cobalt pewter
why
small timber
because without even something close to this it will still not be worth using
that is how underpowered the ninja belts are
small timber
I mean that is more of a problem with how CD buff function than how the accessory itself function
I will leave it for now, it more people criticize the idea I will remove it later, I will not ping the donor until I confirm that people do like the idea (so I dont bother them unnecessarily)
earnest raptor
what if ninja belt line had a weaker version of god slayer dash?
unique vector
explod
cobalt pewter
what if ninja belt line had a weaker version of god slayer dash?
then it won't be any different from a ram
earnest raptor
okay, then just diagonal dashes
small timber
(diagonal is kinda pointless without full immnuty in most case)
earnest raptor
what is useful in real fights then?
cobalt pewter
proper dash
earnest raptor
so shield of chtulhu?
small timber
There is reason people use SoC over Tiger Climbing Gear
small timber
Dash itself is rare, and post-plant bonk valor will always do the best
Scarves basically have different bonk, the one you said only apply to shield of ocean (submurge in liquid) and ornate shield
frail mantle
~~can just every dash have a bonk as innate property?~~
No because then shield of cachoochoo isn’t unique
gentle fog
also bonk is very counterproductive if you're not well practiced with it
when I dash it's because I want to move somewhere, not get blocked by whatever enemy is cornering me
earnest raptor
No because then shield of cachoochoo isn’t unique
assuming than it's unique in first place
with all those guards
stiff wren
also bonk is very counterproductive if you're not well practiced with it
yeah thats what practice is for
fossil finch
calamity players when arbitrary obscure balance mechanic
spare prawn
For a second i thought y'all were talking about Bonk! Atomic Punch!
exotic stag
sis but
unfunny
its an SIS and a "weapon for the sake of a reference"
@pearl storm no.
exotic stag
its literally two donts
eternal escarp
@north plank exclamationable sugg
north plank
was it the one just deleted or the one the bot reacted to
exotic stag
deleted
exotic stag
fossil finch
Oh so this sugg bot automatically 🗜️ suggs formatless
exotic stag
yes
north plank
exotic stag
it does that to ones without the doublespace
eternal escarp
linebreak
fossil finch
yeah i know
eternal escarp
doublespace doesnt do much
stiff wren
what was the suggestion
fossil finch
It reacted to them after the 24 pass
eternal escarp
byeah it (quite apperantly) does so now immediatly which is nice
exotic stag
what was the suggestion
"new item. M.A.D.
insert SIS things here
bloons reference"
fossil finch
To be completely fair bloons is based
stiff wren
"new item. M.A.D.
insert SIS things here
bloons reference"
bloons fans when their favourite game isnt referenced in every piece of media in existence
exotic stag
To be completely fair bloons is based
bloons 5 is more based then people always wanting bloons 6 in everything
:bloons:
exotic stag
(im saying btd5 is better because its not "i want this in every single piece of media")
fossil finch
except it like is???
They're like still the same franchise
and they have the same fanbase
People that pull t5s do so because they're cooler
Kinda it
red stormBOT
grim tusk
!wiki monkey darts
red stormBOT
exotic stag
(well a moab isnt really a "bloons reference" since a moab can be anything)
exotic stag
a blue blimp sure. thats just the color scheme
grim tusk
MOAB in bloons and here is huge bloon
grim tusk
The MOAB is a direct reference to the Massive Ornary Air Blimp from the Bloons Tower Defense game series, in which the objective is to defend against waves of balloons.
The item shares the color scheme that the MOAB has in this series.
Furthermore, in BTD3, its debut game, a pre-round comment jokes that the MOAB abbreviation does not stand for "Mother Of All Bloons". This item references that term in its tooltip.
In real life, there is a bomb known as a Massive Ordnance Air Blast or a MOAB.
exotic stag
> The MOAB is a direct reference to the Massive Ornary Air Blimp from the Bloons...
(theres also this)
eternal escarp
(come on we know its directly a bloons reference)
distant gyro
Kylie and Glaive are also confirmed references
exotic stag
distant gyro
a bit more vague but they are
exotic stag
(also the glaive upgrade is literally just the heat upgrade + glaives)
eternal escarp
i would call it vague unless you are going to tell me the entire existance of the Bandit is to sell Bloon's references
fossil finch
Tbf glaives aren't spiked starfish things
fossil finch
Bloons solely popularized the term for the funny starfish boomerangs
Well, i believe they got it from some movie/series which called them glaives
Even though they're not glaives
eternal escarp
fossil finch
so the glaive thing does work as direct reference
exotic stag
krull
eternal escarp
well, [CITATION NEEDED]
fossil finch
Yes Krull seems to have started it
eternal escarp
byeah
fossil finch
I believe the director/writer didn't even like ut
Because they're not glaives
Except they're now
Lol!
eternal escarp
byeah
fossil finch
The kylie however is a real boomerang type
Calamity's doesn't really look like it
No not really
hot zephyr
black belt dodge is actually great
back when it was 60s it was insane
you became Dodge God and I abused it fighting beta exo mechs
cobalt pewter
well yeah, 60s
hot zephyr
plus GSD was around 20s on cooldown
if the nerf to 90s was too much that's what I'd suggest
cobalt pewter
though I think I don't have much issues with the dodge, really, maybe a nudge in the CD can be neat
hot zephyr
but personally outside of scenarios where I need to ram I think that statis' ninja belt especially is great
frog leg? and a 90s idiot proof adrenaline conserver? kinda great ngl
cobalt pewter
I think the topic (don't quote me on this) was that they're trying to give Tabi (OH ITS TABI NOT BLACK BELT I am dumb) dash something different that's not just
pssh
hot zephyr
oh that
hot zephyr
tabi dash good
fossil finch
Tabi users (real
fossil finch
MNG and its consequences to society
hot zephyr
the MNG line is already a decent dash, an automatic dodge, and a frog leg duct taped together
personally I think it's fine
but I also think that MOAB is great so my opinions are... unique
fossil finch
No moab buff anyway
hot zephyr
one day that sandstone bug will be fixed 
grim tusk
A bug so op it can trivialize Infernum Skeletron’s bullet hell somehow
If you can precisely do it that is
small timber
Just to get more opinion is the MNG line good?(particularly conpare to valor) From my own experience eveytime I use it i just think I will rather have valor instead
Which is why I made the suggestion in the first place
grim tusk
yes until void sash
small timber
The frog leg component is great, but post-plant wing (+other jump speed) make it not really essential
grim tusk
actually void sash usable on Scal
small timber
Ya that is the only one I know MNG is better than aegis
small timber
It is good for exo if you try to fight it in smaller arena, to bash through thanatos
grim tusk
and it protects you from brimstone flames in Exos fight
Artemis gets far less annoying
- you can ram artemis's ph1 dash
additionally if playing as rogue you already have a dodge already, no need for 2 since they don't stack
small timber
Althrough rather: for my suggestion lets say if it had scarve dash on 30s CD, will it make MNG overpowered?
That is my concern since it is not something I can evaluate from experience
grim tusk
Althrough rather: for my suggestion lets say if it had scarve dash on 30s CD, wi...
likely
i could see a point being made for it in void sash but in Statis it'd be hella op
small timber
Then I think I will remove it, if people do acknowledge that it had good use then it probably should be buffed in other way
Since the only bad part about MNG is lack of kb basically, while debuff immunity can be cope with
If it is on void sash it probably is too late for a sudden change of identity
grim tusk
Since the only bad part about MNG is lack of kb basically, while debuff immunity...
frigid bulkwark+
small timber
Frigid bulwark + MNG sounds so sad,one accessory focus on dodging while another is pure tank
grim tusk
Frigid bulwark + MNG sounds so sad,one accessory focus on dodging while another ...
Its not
Its well rounded
a mobility acc and a defesive one, necessary components for a good build
its not always about the damage
small timber
I think I might just put frigid bulwark too low, always not a fan of conditional defense
grim tusk
Bulwark is best when paired with other accs that can take advantage of its perks
such as buying time for charm of myths, better use of necklace of vexation, becoming chonk when paired with ampoule, providing kb immunity and tanking to non valor users, etc
small timber
Hmm I guess I will try it sometime, for HM I always went for nearly pure movement over defense due to weak wings and only switch defensive post-ML
grim tusk
it really helps getting some defensive stuff
PBG back a couple patches ago really screwed over players who neglected it
it still does to some extent
small timber
Wait talking about kb what if statis ninja belt and above get kb immunity during dash?
Because that is the main problem: too punishing if misdashed into projectile
grim tusk
that is supposed to be one of the drawbacks for getting a longer dash that cant ram
and doesnt make sense either
small timber
Ok, then I will think of other ways that do not misalign with the design of the item, I still feel it is abit too costly compare to valor's 2 in 1 versatility, since this is going a bit off topic
stiff wren
just remove the climbing gear line its that easy smh
distant gyro
Completion update (there's only one)
@hardy dock #suggestions-voting message All SCal (and her summons) and all Exo Mechs projectile damage have been reduced by 10%. In addition, Brimstone Darts that result from Brimstone Gigablasts deal 25% less damage (stacks multiplicatively with the nerf above)
hardy dock
nice
full pivot
@meager pilot you broke about 4 rules ngl
nvm 3
- incorrect formatting
- no reasoning
- ding dong ditching
exotic stag
(also aint rdr just a dps cap in itself. and thats being moved to malice so)
full pivot
also putting the funni emote at the end might break a rule i just didnt see
exotic stag
no emotes dont do anything
jagged spade
Completion update (there's only one)
<@!574702946697347072> https://discord.com/...
bro finally
this fight wont be dumb anymore
jagged spade
300 damage for a single hit is very dumb
unique vector
ur stupid!!
jagged spade
no
frail mantle
crude geode
a true battle of wits
unique vector
text wall incoming
Denied
@silent ibex - #suggestions-voting message [Add a crafting recipe to create diving helmet from Victide bars]
@eager hollow - #suggestions-voting message [Remove pickaxe requirement to mine Cryonic ore]
@bright crag - #suggestions-voting message [Nerf or rework Ares to be less of a world tour]
@proud quest - #suggestions-voting message [Make mud unable to be corrupted or make a variant of corrupted mud]
@dusty path - #suggestions-voting message [Add Auric Slimes]
@lucid marsh - #suggestions-voting message [Slime Rain gets buffed as you progress]
@small timber - #suggestions-voting message [Give All Bosses A 1-2 Second "Grace Period" When The Fight Begins]
@wicked totem - #suggestions-voting message [Make an item that when favorited in your inventory stops you from being able to hurt cultists.]
Suggestion conflicts with current plans, locked
@languid quartz - #suggestions-voting message [lol]
Approved
@spare prawn - #suggestions-voting message [Make Plasma Grenades Infinite]
@torn crown - #suggestions-voting message [Make Encrypted Schematics update their tooltip after they've been decrypted]
@wheat jetty - #suggestions-voting message [Add a Lunar tier Hamaxe for Rogue class (a.k.a Empyrean Stuff)]
@bold peak dupe suggestion to the above
@ripe owl - #suggestions-voting message [Add a sound effect indicating that you are too far from Providence]
@patent nimbus - #suggestions-voting message [Make bosses always drop their trophy in Malice Mode]
@tranquil saffron - #suggestions-voting message [During the Boss Rush, teleport the player to the nearest Altar of the Accursed prior to spawning Supreme Calamitas]
@fierce iris - #suggestions-voting message [Add a sound effect when hitting a point blank shot]
@crude geode - #suggestions-voting message [Add a Rogue "Night's Edge" equivalent]
@ashen warren - #suggestions-voting message [Make devourer of gods' back segments invisible for a short time after he goes out of portal]
On our developer To-Do/Already in our plans
@deft yew - #suggestions-voting message [Rework the Arcane modifier] (im personally doing this one)
deft yew
sleek turret
Good
grim tusk
Completion update (there's only one)
<@!574702946697347072> https://discord.com/...
Scal about to become easier
grim tusk
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Approved
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Piky about to mald about having to balance plasma grenades again
deft yew
scal should either get harder as she dies or weaker as she dies
deft yew
not both 
grim tusk
Bh1 did need some nerfs, giga blast nerf is prob overkill
grim tusk
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Approved
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All of the approved stuff is great
unique vector
i dont think its overkill to a great degree
dusty path
unique vector
since thecnically the damage is supossed to come from its split shots
grim tusk
since thecnically the damage is supossed to come from its split shots
Well true and blocks often block the big blast anyways
deft yew
All of the approved stuff is great
sound effect that says you're too far from provi?
grim tusk
Also maybe the encryption items changing if they’re decrypted could finally fix the issue of autosave reversing it!
deft yew
i still want a dynamic shader but 
that would probably be resource intensive
unique vector
we talked abt that suggestion actually lank
grim tusk
*sound effect* that says you're too far from provi?
Better than having to pay attention to buff slots
unique vector
we'd prefer not to make it a sfx
but we also didnt like the reverse flashbang it used to do
so we'll probably do some sort of visual indicator instead
grim tusk
Even better
deft yew
i guess the sfx is a temporary fix
and you'll make it visual once you have it figured out
exotic stag
a flame.
unique vector
i dont remember
exotic stag
a very hard to see flame
unique vector
as in?
exotic stag
like just
blends in with the background very weirdly
and very difficult to look at
unique vector
can you grab a screenshot
unique vector
yeah i cant find anythingon the wiki
deft yew
blends into the background
(insert most other provi projectiles and PBG projectiles)
crude geode
"[Nerf or rework Ares to be less of a world tour]"
explanation pls?
grim tusk
Ares already has telegraphs lol
Some more subtle
But laser is obvious and follows a pattern
torn crown
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Epic
deft yew
"some more subtle"
yeah the only one that isn't literally just the sprite is laser 
and like
sprite telegraph is fine but the cannons do it so subtly
unique vector
- we still believe people are under the mentality that "this boss just came out and is too hard pls fix"
- ares is far less of a world tour than the other mechs and isnt the primary problem
- we noted that the exo mechs currently have an issue with a huge arena making the fight stupidly easier, NOT that they require a big arena to begin with
- ares is getting more visual telegraphs anyway
grim tusk
Ares is only world tour in malice
deft yew
what IS the primary problem 
grim tusk
Forces you to fly/fall diagonally
exotic stag
i never found that a bigger arena made exos easier imo
unique vector
i am not associated with malice
grim tusk
On rev/death you can just https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/910774278729916426/933148447962452038/Dodging_Ares.mp4
exotic stag
they felt the same other then manatos
sleek turret
absolute unit of a gif
fossil finch
i think it would be pogging poggers epicsauce if you said your ideas for arcane
iirc
grim tusk
On malice tho his prediction is too much to be able to do that
unique vector
i have none rn bc it requires me to think about my mana rework ideas
and that gives me a stroek
fossil finch
)arcane the popular series based off the popular moba game League Of Lege
exotic stag
(can we just make arcane not only useful in phm.)
sleek turret
well there are ideas
unique vector
im not changing arcane until i can figure out how to fix mana being a shitty mechanic
deft yew
On rev/death you can just https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/910774278729916...
that's like half the issue too
ares BARELY attacks and when he does it feels either laughable or shoved up your butt
unique vector
the mechs are meant to synergize with each other in a chaotic symphony
deft yew
mana rework 
sleek turret
once I thought you could make arcan, give more mana when you're using a msnna potion although it sucked so much it doesn't work so much atm
unique vector
the only time they should work well on their own is in their enraged phase
exotic stag
mana rework: deleting mage
deft yew
honestly ares works well, just feels off when uh
you summon it first and get to just stand there for 5 seconds
which iirc is also fixed
unique vector
if im being honest we probably wont touch exo mech balancing besides maybe damage values for another month
as per number 1
unique vector
once I thought you could make arcan, give more mana when you're using a msnna po...
having a mage become heavily dependent on mana potions which give a shitty debuff is why i want to rework it
grim tusk
if im being honest we probably wont touch exo mech balancing besides maybe damag...
Electrified nuking hp is dying right?
exotic stag
(also arcane is only really useful in phm cause in hardmode area you really dont need it)
unique vector
and afaik fab and others on the team are a-ok with me making some concepts for better mana systems
grim tusk
Thats the only issue i have with non-malice, their debuffs
unique vector
yeah
crude geode
having a mage become heavily dependent on mana potions which give a shitty debuf...
wait are we talking about mana pots being bad?
unique vector
we have changes planned to like
deft yew
mana potions
unique vector
deal with the vanilla electrified debuff
(some of us dislike it but it does the job for now)
no im talking about mana being stupid
lol
crude geode
I suspected as much
unique vector
the mage class as it stands revolves its power over manipulating mana pot consumption
deft yew
calamity finally on its way to remove vanilla content be like 
grim tusk
the mage class as it stands revolves its power over manipulating mana pot consum...
Or mana regeneration
Astral injection gang
unique vector
mana regeneration is actually like the one good thing abt it rn lmao
crude geode
Big agree
unique vector
its not perfect but its like
better than ethereal talisman meta
slowly dying
im going to single handedly kill mana flower/talisman meta
crude geode
mana regen is like a 5/10 when it comes to brainlessness but then mana pots are a 10/10
grim tusk
1) we still believe people are under the mentality that "this boss just came out...
Also for 3 theres a big long thing that could be used to block the path of the player
Would also make Thanathos more active when the 3 mechs are up
fossil finch
it is completely and absolutely ??????
me when the gimmick makes you lose damage because yes
unique vector
one of my ideas kinda like, revolves around adding a much higher mana cap
im not sure where to go from ther though
sleek turret
having a mage become heavily dependent on mana potions which give a shitty debuf...
fair
deft yew
it is completely and absolutely ??????
me when the gimmick makes you lose damage...
you lose damage because mage already hits pretty dang hard
frail mantle
mage is kinda unregistered hypercam at the moment
unique vector
mage shouldnt be purely glass cannon
fossil finch
it's at the same level as other classes i think
sleek turret
although at the time I did think of that was when I thought of reducing mana sickness damage% but that would end in an enigma i think (mod refe
fossil finch
mage having support elements would also be cool but that's just weapon ideas
unique vector
you should be allowed to build a tanky mage if u waant to lol
grim tusk
You can already
unique vector
byeah
crude geode
one of my ideas kinda like, revolves around adding a much higher mana cap
I will bring up underrated weapon design #58, ion blaster
unique vector
fucked weapon design*
crude geode
true
grim tusk
Also i wonder how viable mana polarizer could get in later in the game
deft yew
ion blaster
unique vector
i am going to completely avoid making anything similar to ion blaster's mechanics until i find a suitable solution to mana
because ion blaster is literally a hellspawn for balancing
deft yew
more like taking the class's central but already horribly balanced gimmick and cranking it up to 11
deft yew
more like taking the class's central but already horribly balanced gimmick and c...
||i think that goes for calamity summoner too 
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unique vector
it doesnt really rn which is good imo
crude geode
because ion blaster is literally a hellspawn for balancing
I mean if you're reworking a class' entire mechanic you're already gonna be fucking balancing over
but yeah
grim tusk
(mana polarizer shouldnt be useable late game)
Thats the same thing that has been said for [insert rogue acc here] or [minion slot acc]
unique vector
rogue idk thats not my field of expertise lol
grim tusk
Silencing sheath should not give such a massive dps increase
unique vector
summoners are just fucked because their entire identity relies on slots