suggestions-discussion

[eternal escarp]

they are the hitbox arent they

[earnest cape]

cause imagine being fucking close to that moon and get hit out of thin air

[eternal escarp]

those shits existing is enough for me to

[cobalt pewter]

Toilet sugg

echcease

[earnest cape]

toilet sugg

echdemon

[crude geode]

Auric Toilet was a mistake

[hollow shell]

This suggestion is fine.

It was our fault for adding Auric Toilet.

[crude geode]

Indeed

[muted osprey]

toilet suggest

[dapper coral]

i hate this suggestion so much but it is perfectly valid

[earnest cape]

the fact that it's valid makes it so much worse

[muted osprey]

you have brought this upon yourselves

[cobalt pewter]

It's totally valid yes, and that's scary

It's up to devmocracy then ig, because I know this will get rapid stars

Byeah

[muted osprey]

cloun

[cobalt pewter]

Good sugg regardless of toilet existence

[crude geode]

It has actual reasoning and makes perfect sense and is valid. Despite this, it is a shitty suggestion

[muted osprey]

was the shit joke intentional

[crude geode]

ofc

[muted osprey]

rover pls accept

[cobalt pewter]

Actually now that I think about it, I remember auric toilet having different dimensions to the rest of toilets (2x2 as opposed to 1x2)

[muted osprey]

yes

[frail mantle]

auric toilet is chungus

[muted osprey]

for taco bell level shits

[eternal escarp]

w h y

[safe oasis]

it’s perfectly valid i accept no complaints

[tawny garden]

[eternal escarp]

there is no counter arguement

[tawny garden]

There is none

[safe oasis]

(though if anyone sees a grammar error @ me)

[eternal escarp]

which makes me love this, because more furniture

but at the same time

i hate this, because its valid

[tawny garden]

Will the Auric Toilet be made from these 4?

[muted osprey]

ofc

[safe oasis]

that’s the reason for the sugg yes

[muted osprey]

auric toilet wasn't made for gods for no good reason

(eats entire jalapeno)

[warm scarab]

this sugg...

it's perfectly balanced, as all things should be

[tepid root]

what a sugg

[marble hazel]

(only to be denied in dev voting)

[tawny garden]

Tiki

Don't ruin their hopes that quickly

It was supposed to be a "sudden 🚫 that nobody expected"

[safe oasis]

yeah cmon man i was supposed to act surprised and in shock

ruined it smh

[crude geode]

Fuckin ruining the script

[cobalt pewter]

smh my head

[warm scarab]

bot is broken

#suggestions-posting message

it's sent 30 hours ago

[tawny garden]

Oh ye

@dapper coral

(Try to approve via ✅ first)

[earnest cape]

Ofc ping someone offline

[tawny garden]

He was online when I pinged

[frail mantle]

Better to ping Rover

[earnest cape]

@hollow shell

[tawny garden]

My pings suck

[earnest cape]

Hey older come here

[tawny garden]

[warm scarab]

[tawny garden]

Or maybe mobile dumb

:FUCK_MOBILE:

[hollow shell]

byeah
As expected, no repost even with the reaction

[warm scarab]

bot broken again

[tawny garden]

This is a Kotlin issue, I'm pretty sure

[warm scarab]

lmao

wait what

[tawny garden]

Discord.js is the only framework that doesn't suck

[warm scarab]

you can react

[tawny garden]

Cuz it's updated

[warm scarab]

hmm

[tawny garden]

That's how discord works

[warm scarab]

why is the bot stupid

[warm scarab]

bruh

[eternal escarp]

you can always react to reactions that are already applied

you just cant make new reactions yourself

[warm scarab]

iirc i can't react to ❗

[frail mantle]

Correct

[tawny garden]

The bot removes that one

[eternal escarp]

yeah

[warm scarab]

[tawny garden]

Amber didn't bother removing ✅s

[warm scarab]

[tawny garden]

Cause you're not supposed to see them for that long

[warm scarab]

hmmm

[frail mantle]

Patience

It’ll be delivered eventually

[warm scarab]

[earnest cape]

Huh

[earnest cape]

This feels like

Too much work

[cobalt pewter]

It is

@kind cipher if you'd read the doc in pins and know the fact that this sugg is a massive work, try revisiting the doc

[kind cipher]

am i not allowed to give big suggestions?

[earnest cape]

Yes as stated in the doc pinned

[kind cipher]

tf i swear i read the thing

[earnest cape]

Happens

[safe oasis]

read it again

[earnest cape]

Just delete the sugg or rewrite it to something else

[eternal escarp]

prolly rewrite, which is the option youd like

if you can rewrite it to not be as big of a suggestion ofc

[earnest cape]

Thats if you have another sugg ofc

[kind cipher]

found it yeah

[half kayak]

are changing AT recipes allowed in suggestions?

my suggestion was gonna be make galeforce and ballista part of PA instead of HG

[cobalt pewter]

PA?

HG?

[half kayak]

planetary annhiliation

heavenly gale

[earnest cape]

Isnt heavenly gale just sauced up galeforce

[half kayak]

ohyea

[earnest cape]

And planetary annihilation is better stormbow

Unlike galeforce

[half kayak]

maybe just the ballista part of planetary

[eternal escarp]

ik some exo/auric recipes and whatnot will be cleaned up next update so idk

[half kayak]

since the arrows go boom

k

[safe oasis]

no thats the bow from storm weaver

[half kayak]

daedalus stormbow

cant spell that greek god

[eternal escarp]

proly bwtter to wait till then ig idk

[earnest cape]

Thats stormbow on drugs

[half kayak]

ok

[earnest cape]

Planetary is just memebow but better

Know the difference smh

[half kayak]

skeppy typing moment

[eternal escarp]

phone typing moment

[half kayak]

oh

[muted osprey]

ok skeppy stan

[half kayak]

i just call it skeppy-typing because i havent seen many yters topr lkei iths

[eternal escarp]

its just, broken typing

its not trademarked by the youtuber

byeah

[half kayak]

ofc its not

i call it skeppytyping because hes the first person i saw to topr lkei iths

[earnest cape]

Go to #general-talk

[ornate kestrel]

i wish i could suggest and accessory upgrade

[sharp prism]

code it yourself smh my head

[earnest cape]

@signal glade No.

[warm scarab]

this sugg...

[signal glade]

cheese

[hot zephyr]

@signal glade Emote suggestions were banned last month

[signal glade]

NO CHEESE

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[earnest cape]

and this is a meme sugg im pretty sure

so No.

[frozen hornet]

Emote suggs are banned right?

[gray nebula]

[hot zephyr]

Yes

[signal glade]

bruh

[earnest cape]

yes

[frozen hornet]

[signal glade]

😔

[frozen hornet]

Didn't even include an image smh

[earnest cape]

this is why you should read the "don'ts" doc

[hot zephyr]

If they weren't, I'd be suggesting sadcat

[signal glade]

this is the basis of calamity and why is there no cheese?

[grim tusk]

Emote suggs where mostly shitposts and/or reposted so frequently that they banned them

[tawny garden]

sadcat was denied

[earnest cape]

[grim tusk]

[signal glade]

they removed omega

but no cheese?

ugh

[hot zephyr]

I don't care

[signal glade]

[tawny garden]

oh no red smiley

[sleek girder]

not the hage

[earnest cape]

hage indeed

[grim tusk]

hage

[signal glade]

was bosses spawning above you suggested?

because that is stupid when not

[gray nebula]

sadcat was more than denied actually it wasz DELETED

cring

[earnest cape]

@warm scarab sugg limit

wait

no

nvm

[hot zephyr]

too bad! sadcat time!

[earnest cape]

i am

[signal glade]

imagine having this much suggestion

[earnest cape]

dumb

[tawny garden]

no lol

[tawny garden]

yes

[earnest cape]

the suggs not being sent to voting threw me off

[signal glade]

has there been any suggestion that bosses should't squish you?

[warm scarab]

[grim tusk]

Yes like Golem head

That one passed

[signal glade]

like spawning bosses in nohitting is very stopid

[eternal escarp]

shouldnt squish you? im confused

oh

i see

[grim tusk]

You can just dash away

[warm scarab]

or you can fall down

[signal glade]

Hive mind killed me 15 times because i forget

[grim tusk]

Except for the random funnies when PBG or BR EoW spawn on top of you

[signal glade]

very funny indeed

[eternal escarp]

he has a moment he doesnt attack you iirc, for hive mind and aureus atleast

[grim tusk]

Yea for Hive just dash away with Shield

[warm scarab]

[earnest cape]

i have

more

[signal glade]

but why not just** fix** it tho?

[grim tusk]

Me too

[warm scarab]

me too but i deleted them some time ago

[signal glade]

funny

[eternal escarp]

they have bigger priorities atm, and this doesnt happen 100% of the time thankfully

itll prolly get fixed

[warm scarab]

i have one where crab just deleted me when i used the summon

[signal glade]

funny BALANCED DEATH

[eternal escarp]

but not like, from now to now

[earnest cape]

byech off topic\

[signal glade]

Hive mind spawns everytime

above you

but thats it

[eternal escarp]

but you also have time to react for it

[signal glade]

HM

[grim tusk]

You jump summon then dash away

[eternal escarp]

its not instant on you, he drops onto you i believe

[grim tusk]

^

[tawny garden]

don't know if Amber was notified of the bot being down so Imma ping her again

[signal glade]

yes

[eternal escarp]

after the first time, you know how to deal with it

[tawny garden]

@ashen warren the bot isn't working

[earnest cape]

oh waiy

can rover not send suggs to voting?

[signal glade]

is star cannon able to be nerfed?

in Calamity?

[earnest cape]

why would you nerf star cannon

[warm scarab]

^

[signal glade]

i know ammo is rare

but the dmg

[tawny garden]

the bot isn't working, as I said

[earnest cape]

yeah I know that much

[signal glade]

had to remove armor because my dps was too much

[earnest cape]

oh nohits

just

don't use star cannon

or give it a bad reforge

[signal glade]

already did it

[warm scarab]

don't use star cannon for no hits

[eternal escarp]

balancing the mod around nohits is kinda stupid too

[warm scarab]

[signal glade]

gave it broken

[eternal escarp]

just dont use star cannon, yeah

no one forces you to

[signal glade]

no we should suffer

its death mode

jk

[radiant meadow]

getting ammo for the weapon is way more trouble than it's worth most of the time in a normal scenario

(Cheating in 9999 stars is not a normal scenario)

[eternal escarp]

^

[earnest cape]

oh while you're here ben

can you send the due suggs in posting to voting manually?

like this for example #suggestions-voting message

thank

[warm scarab]

crafting unlimited stars with 389 stars is also not normal

[grim tusk]

Nor buying them with alch npcheats

[radiant meadow]

Has anyone notified Amber yet?

[tawny garden]

I have

[grim tusk]

Yea philo did

[earnest cape]

^

[eternal escarp]

philo did rn, yeah

[grim tusk]

Once

[tawny garden]

erm

wh

[tawny garden]

you can get stars very easily

just say "rework rage"

[grim tusk]

[eternal escarp]

wrong star, philo

[tawny garden]

[earnest cape]

[signal glade]

bruh

[warped tide]

crying about star cannon is nonsensical because the bosses that you use it on have patterns so unbelievably simple that it hardly matters

seriously who's gonna struggle on the wall of flesh? you can throw any fcking piercing weapon at it the pattern is constant

[grim tusk]

also star cannon is banned pre-evil boss and is mega DQ bait

[frozen hornet]

BQ

[cobalt pewter]

Star Cannon

Funni ticket to scoog pre boss

Star Cannon is balanced fine-ish

Around the scarcity of stars and the lack of easy ways to get it in phm

The upgrades need to consider a lot more, particularly stardust crafts and star drops from astral bosses

[sharp prism]

Star cannon, funiest shit ive ever heard

[warm scarab]

[safe oasis]

please inform me if this suggestion is absolute shit. it's just something i thought of from the back of my mind.
we let this get through

wtf

[tawny garden]

[cobalt pewter]

wtf indeed

[earnest cape]

We have been

Doing our job wrong

[tawny garden]

not doing it at all*

[pine star]

[tawny garden]

fify

[rain basalt]

Me . I can't even build a good arena

[gray nebula]

theres not much to do in

many biomes actually

[fossil finch]

abyss kinda does not really need more

it already got 3 tiers of stuff, and the sea has the rain event
if everything add more content to stuff like crags

[sleek girder]

^

crags take a higher priority currently

though i do think that the abyss should get some changes

[safe oasis]

abyss has more things to explore than any other biome, aside from maybe jungle

[sleek girder]

like chest loot, specifically tier 3

but thats about it

crags and sunken sea feel pretty unused and bland

[earnest cape]

How dare you call sunken sea bland

[pine star]

Sunken Sea is interesting
Crags are bland

[hot zephyr]

abyss has
multiple layers of content, a set of accessories, an entire tier of weapons, multiple crafting materials, a set of biome crates

a ton of unique enemies with reasons to fight them

[pine star]

And Jared

[cobalt pewter]

multiplayer layers of content

[pine star]

[tawny garden]

multiplayer

[hot zephyr]

sorry I have nam flashbacks

[earnest cape]

[hot zephyr]

it's a subconscious thing

[tawny garden]

ah yes, the most important jerk enemy in the game

[hot zephyr]

If you count the sulph sea as a part of the abyss, it also has a three tier event, loot chests, and an entire post-ml boss

[tawny garden]

nah

different biome

[cobalt pewter]

Imagine forgetting scoog

[hot zephyr]

I don't ever fight Scourge

He's dumb

[earnest cape]

Funny projectile spam

[tawny garden]

soam

[earnest cape]

Shut

[gaunt quest]

The crag literally is just there for a boss lol

And essence of chaos so yes it needs more stuff to make it interesting

[earnest cape]

Essence of cinded

[gaunt quest]

Wrong essence

[pine star]

Essence of Cinder is Sunlight Essence

[hot zephyr]

craig

[pine star]

[gaunt quest]

I corrected myself

As can be seen by me saying "chaos*"

Craig is the biome now

[earnest cape]

Gee no shit sherlock

[gaunt quest]

Yah but no reason to make fun of me for a mistake I corrected

Smh

[earnest cape]

Anyway

[gaunt quest]

And yes I know I mispelt the biome name I don't care it is very bland

Rename the biome Craig

[tawny garden]

Daniel Craig

Uhhhh

1. I'd be very surprised if no other mod has done this

[earnest cape]

So god mode

[tawny garden]

2. enable god mode in Cheat Sheet

[sleek turret]

yeah

do that or watch some informative video idk

[tawny garden]

3. isn't Calamity's thing

@winged thunder

[ancient mirage]

i mean god mode doesnt let you know when you get hit, so its a bit different

[tawny garden]

true

[winged thunder]

yea

small projectiles that deal big damage you wont notice until a boss

[tawny garden]

My point still stands tho

[winged thunder]

good point

[earnest cape]

This shouldn't be any of calamity's concerns imo

Like just do trial and error and do the boss the intended way

Unless you're using shitty gear you shouldnt immediately blow up(ignoring dmode dog one shot and provi's stars)

[winged thunder]

but problem is

well nvm

i dont have much to say to that

they would likely also have to make boss summoning items non consumble

which be a pain

for an item most people wouldnt use

[earnest cape]

Just be like most people and cheat spawn items in.

[winged thunder]

or

[tawny garden]

or play on normal mode if you want to make the bosses piss easy and learn them

[winged thunder]

1.3 dupe method glitch

[earnest cape]

Wouldnt really apply for harder modes

[tawny garden]

I hope that you don't have any troubles with normal mode

[tawny garden]

Ah yeah true

Funny mode differences

[earnest cape]

Indeed

Anyway off to bed i go

[winged thunder]

goodbye

[tawny garden]

gn

[hollow shell]

This suggestion is okay but the title should prolly be more obvious
You gave it a name, "test mode", which people won't immediately understand unless they read your reason

(Also, @alpine dawn, #suggestions-voting . Not really recommended to post a very similar suggestion shortly after the first)

[grim tusk]

Best way to practice a boss is to die repeatedly and learn from ur mistakes

[alpine dawn]

(yeah sorry I kinda forgot about it )

[hollow shell]

(you gonna do anything about it?)

(You could delet or change its scope to be only The Abyss)

The latter option would be good cuz then you can elaborate more
cuz honestly The Abyss is one of the most fleshed out biomes in Calamity and the game
so it'd be good to explain why it's "really boring"

[alpine dawn]

Yea that was my bad, I had to do chores after. Just deleted it

[hollow shell]

Aight

Also this sugg is fine

I'm personally aight with them all just being Astral ____ but some descriptive variety would be nice

[tawny garden]

oh pog

it lives, a bit

xeno's sugg?

[zenith hazel]

isn't it a bit specific

I thought this was already ❗ 'd

[tawny garden]

it's kinda weird

(also it's now a frequently suggested thing, though it was added to the list after the sugg was posted)

[hollow shell]

Yeah I decided this was the last Earth Ele sugg

It doesn't really matter if it gets delivered or not cuz the devs already know about the suggestion

in its concept.

[cobalt pewter]

Test mode
Cheat sheet and CalTestHelpers:

[tawny garden]

is CalTestHelpers public

[cobalt pewter]

Mod browser, no

maybe dom should upload it

[tawny garden]

then why do you mention it smh

[cobalt pewter]

[tawny garden]

@vocal grotto.

[cobalt pewter]

Anyways, cheat sheet

It's literally meant for testing and stuff

[crude geode]

cheat sheet
🤔 wonder why most players wouldn’t use it

[tawny garden]

HERO's mod doesn't have that problem

but it has a ton of other problems

[whole sedge]

i still very much do not see why this has to be a calamity thing when it could be so much better as a minimod but eh

[robust lava]

(I hate that HERO's has problems, because otherwise it is much better than Cheat Sheet imo, but that's offtopic)

[cobalt pewter]

It doesn't need to be cal at all

[tawny garden]

minimod

[tawny garden]

byeah I agree

[whole sedge]

shush i play too much doom

[tawny garden]

(I use both)

[crude geode]

Calamity: has iron heart, defiled rune, and death as completely unnecessary extra modes that could be their own difficulty mods
Calamity Community: I sleep.
Suggestion: suggests something to help practice
Calamity Community: WTF

[glass sentinel]

this is most definitely a no-no

[tawny garden]

those were added by Fab, tbf

and uhhhhhh

Calamitas will become a Town NPC iirc

in 1.5

[tawny garden]

not a no-no in a usual sense

[cobalt pewter]

If we're going by this, then like, anything and everything standalone in a mod is unnecessary as they can be their own mods

In any case uh

[tawny garden]

is this a thing

[cobalt pewter]

Yes

[tawny garden]

aight

[cobalt pewter]

It's on the 1.5 FAQ

[tawny garden]

@chrome dock

She'll be an NPC in 1.5

[chrome dock]

REALLY

[tawny garden]

yes

[muted osprey]

yes

[tawny garden]

read the doc pinned in #calamity-update-talk

[chrome dock]

How do you get her?

[tawny garden]

[muted osprey]

what do you think?

[chrome dock]

Also 5is should happen with draedon as well honestly, clam clam weapon drraedrae amor

[glass sentinel]

is that english

[tawny garden]

[glass sentinel]

what does that mean

[tawny garden]

english words in a random order

[glass sentinel]

what is 5is

or drraedrae

or clam clam weapon

im so confused

[grim tusk]

is this yermes 2

[tawny garden]

Yermes Christal

[glass sentinel]

Yhermemes Crystal

[muted osprey]

yharman

[tawny garden]

#calamity-mod-talk message

anyway offtopic again

Somebody, ❗ this sugg as future content

[glass sentinel]

ping someone

what kind of english is that

[silk lynx]

You can befriend calamitas? Sounds good. No Deltarune references though

😉

[gray nebula]

Undertale

[muted osprey]

shut up

[gray nebula]

Awesome.

[glass sentinel]

@dapper coral ❗ this sugg please

:ping:

[dapper coral]

m

[crude geode]

[tawny garden]

nice, someone else pinged

my pings suck

[glass sentinel]

[crude geode]

Then why do you keep doing it

[tawny garden]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[terse sundial]

(god?)

[fossil finch]

(why is this not deleted right away)

[hardy dock]

(I don’t know)

[earnest cape]

Sugg bot is back alive

[pine star]

@tender flame Don't chat in #suggestions-posting

[grim tusk]

@hollow shell kill

[earnest cape]

@tender flame give opinions here not in sugg posting.

Now delete your message or die

[grim tusk]

Did he also just fucking post and leave on #suggestions-posting

[distant vault]

no

he didn't leave

[earnest cape]

They didnt leave

[whole sedge]

Still here just invis or offline

[hollow shell]

byeah Ezy you ain't suppose to discuss in that channel
This is the channel for that

[grim tusk]

Can u delete messages Rov?

[hollow shell]

I'll delete it but repost it here, you said:

Would you then be able to fight supreme calamitas again, or would that be the end? Also, people could cheat items in to make supreme calamitas go poof (hp bar) or go down to the 5/10% range very quickly; would that then prevent befriending just like beating supreme calamitas in under 100 seconds would?

(Not much use discussing it anyway considering it is a very invalid suggestion)

[earnest cape]

Yeh

[tender flame]

L... sorry

Do those become posts?

[languid quartz]

yeah

don't worry about it, simple mistake

post suggs in #suggestions-posting, they move to #suggestions-voting after 24 hours if there's no conflicts, and ones in posting are discussed here

[grim tusk]

If not marked with ❗ yes

And we dont want those in #suggestions-voting

[tender flame]

So if I delete it, it gets removed from the #suggestions-voting section? (that would otherwise happen in 24 hours)

Also, where do I talk about making my own mod and recommendations (anti-cheat, etc.)?

[earnest cape]

#other-mod-talk

[languid quartz]

probably #other-mod-talk

[grim tusk]

They move from #suggestions-posting to #suggestions-voting after 24 hours if unmarked, the ones in #suggestions-voting can only be deleted by mods

[earnest cape]

read the pin here and scroll all the way down

for the full detail

[warm scarab]

the test mode is literally a sugg

[wooden quartz]

Was looking at the modifiers page for some reason, and saw a modifier named Hefty. To my shock, it was an entirely positive modifier, despite the name implying that it would have slower speed and maybe velocity. I then realized that I have a general dissatisfaction with how positive + negative vanilla modifiers are dealt with, Rogue's as well. I can't think of a good way to turn it into an actually suggestion at the moment, but maybe when I'm thinking more clearly.

[cobalt pewter]

Take your time

I personally never cared much for modifiers in playthroughs aside from the best ones

[fossil finch]

(Because they are not relevant lol)

[crude geode]

I can agree with the logic, but it feels like more of a nitpick than an actual problem with a developing mod. It’s not descriptive about what the modifier does, but...you can always just look at the modifier does on the wiki or directly on the weapon tooltip.

Would it be nice if there was more consistency and logic? Absolutely. Is it in any way necessary? Not really.

[warm patio]

i think this is why most people dont care really, no one ever looking of any other than the best or close to best anyway, i would never notice such details like the zombie1444

[crude geode]

"Infernadoes" always give me an aneurysm to type out

[glass sentinel]

just write

firenado

easy

but very wrong

[languid quartz]

nado

[crude geode]

yharon swirly boys.

[glass sentinel]

so what you're saying is, for example, make the border like a damaging thing

like a laser wall

or something

right?

[crude geode]

I'm asking for anything besides single line of blocks and that's it.

[glass sentinel]

thats fair

[cobalt pewter]

Maybe the outer sides can be furnished a bit

[crude geode]

Yharon's Border Infernadoes look so much better aesthetically than le single line of blocks

that don't even really match the rest of the aesthetics of the fight imo

[warm scarab]

@crude geode rev+ moons exist

[crude geode]

moons are the worst thing about SCal's fight. Giving someone an arena and then taking away half of it halfway through the fight while blocking visibility in that half of the arena is just asking for someone to go through multiple attempts. It was at least like 75% of the difficulty for my Death Mode fight.

[earnest cape]

i kinda disagree with the sugg

i can't explain why but I just disagree

[dapper coral]

i mean, i don't quite see the issue with needing multiple attempts tbh
besides, she is a superboss (until 1.5, anyways), she's meant be to uber dificil and cause you to rip out your hair

[crude geode]

I can understand her being difficult, I get that

but I expect the difficulty to not come from everything in the fight, not just one aspect of it.

[cobalt pewter]

Monsters can keep the area control ig (though less crazy), but visually blocking projectiles need to go

Tbh

[hollow shell]

I think Hamburger was referring to this line, which I was about to do as well:
"Yharon spawns Border Infernadoes which limit your space as well, but look much better aesthetically, and he also spawns other infernadoes that limit more of the arena which interact with the limited space in a unique way."

SCal does limit her arena space with the monster orbs

[earnest cape]

mmyes

make the already difficult boss more difficult

[crude geode]

true

Brimstone Monsters fill my mind whenever I think about SCal's fight rn. I hate how they're implemented currently.

[hollow shell]

Oh there it goes

[crude geode]

ye, I don't think that suggestion is neccessary rn.

[hollow shell]

Alright

[earnest cape]

understandable

[crude geode]

Not when Brimstone Monsters make me go

[hollow shell]

I was also gonna say it's kinda planned already, at least from an aesthetics standpoint

[earnest cape]

there's a hage moon mod

[hollow shell]

We wanted to make the box more ornate

[graceful hare]

The infernadoes dont really count cause of the fact that scal has brimstone monsters, but the other reasons still kinda stands

[hot zephyr]

(Dank?)

[crude geode]

wonderful

[hollow shell]

(the outside of it at least, so we don't intrude on the fighting area)

[earnest cape]

(ye)

[hot zephyr]

()

[earnest cape]

public mod now

[warm scarab]

I HATE SUGG COOLDOWN

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/754173511584710706/806904003786833950/echdemon.gif

i have a sugg

about tipsy

it's alcohol stuff

why doesnt' it count towards alcohol poisoning

it give huge melee buffs in exchange for only 4 defense

4 def is nothing compared the the buffs it give

[cobalt pewter]

Jesus are you trying to up my sugg count

[warm scarab]

yes

i am trying to beat your sugg count

[distant gyro]

race to get banned from suggestions

[cobalt pewter]

Shut up altix, I've got bonked with sugg limit already

[warm scarab]

[cobalt pewter]

[warm scarab]

how much suggs have you given @cobalt pewter

[cobalt pewter]

Last time I checked 211 in voting

[warm scarab]

sugg limit

that need to take it up to 3 or i can never beat your record

[earnest cape]

212 currently

[warm scarab]

tf

how many do i have then

[safe oasis]

how many of them were actually approved though

[warm scarab]

[earnest cape]

[tranquil perch]

I have 2 sugg that reached star req 😎

Out of like 4

I think

[remote crystal]

I'm currently 50/50 1 that has, 1 that hasn't

[golden narwhal]

change 402 technically makes one of mine a flag

[earnest cape]

prolly ye #suggestions-voting message

[tawny garden]

I made 11, 6 got to voting

5 of them are in limbo, 1 of them was covered by change 400

[distant vault]

Anger.

Death.

[frail mantle]

try actually waiting to suggest things instead of vomiting something into #suggestions-posting the picosecond you have the opportunity then

[whole sedge]

at least some of feedzah's continuous suggs were thought through and made good

[frail mantle]

if you really have so many things you want for this mod then you shouldn't be complaining about the suggestions limit making the process of shoving your ideas into the general direction of the devs take a long time, then you should realize that it's gonna take a long time no matter what

[golden narwhal]

And this is why the sugg limit was made well, it was made for feedza, but point still stands

[frail mantle]

don't be like me before SIS ban and throw out as many suggestions as you possibly can with the mindset of "eventually one of them will stick"

[distant vault]

throw out 3 for your entire life and then never suggest again

power play

[hollow shell]

Become god emporer of all suggestions

The one true play.

[frail mantle]

overthrowing rover?

[tawny garden]

You already took the bloody place

[frail mantle]

a foolish plan

brave, but foolish

[cobalt pewter]

Man I feel like jabbed left and right while the topic goes

[hot zephyr]

Did someone say a battle royale over Suggestion God?

[hollow shell]

The position is no longer available while I still draw breath

[earnest cape]

:)

[hollow shell]

Rover, champion of sugging and editing messages

[hot zephyr]

Don't worry, rove, I'd never try and steal your spot

[earnest cape]

:FUCK_MOBILE:

[tawny garden]

Rover is landing on mars today

[hollow shell]

That is indeed the namesake

[golden narwhal]

It is only natural

[cobalt pewter]

Byeah I've already slowed down a bit before the limit anyways

[golden narwhal]

Indeed

[hot zephyr]

Yeah

"Feedzuh sugg a lot" is kinda dead now

Feedzuh suggs have become kinda rare tbh

[earnest cape]

:tru:

kinda rare nowadays anyway

[tawny garden]

"Rare like Iron"

[cobalt pewter]

especially with recent work stuff, I can't even play anything to sugg on anything

[earnest cape]

sadge

[cobalt pewter]

Though I think I suggested about Empyrean armor a while back

[hollow shell]

ye, 2ish days ago

like 2 3/5ths days ago

[tawny garden]

[cobalt pewter]

That's scarily detailed

[earnest cape]

thats a long 2 days ago

[warm scarab]

hopefully this sugg wouldn't get yeeted

[dapper coral]

doesn't retro/white lighting disable the shaders

[hot zephyr]

But then you have to switch to retro/white lighting

[cobalt pewter]

[hot zephyr]

[dapper coral]

sounds like a you problem ngl

like, there's a very easy way to solve the problem

[hot zephyr]

It's not a solution

[dapper coral]

there's no point in adding a separate config

[hot zephyr]

It's a band-aid fix

[tawny garden]

pfff wot

It's in the base game, how is it a band aid

[dapper coral]

it's hardly a bandaid at all

and if retro/white is a bandaid, then i fail to see how this is not a bandaid either

like, all you would be doing if you were to get a config for just removing the shader is keeping color lighting
vs. big whoop you have to switch to retro/white for 4 minutes

[hot zephyr]

It gives the option to remove the shaders without forcing you to change your graphics settings, which doesn't just change the shaders but literally everything else

and... it's an accessibility feature. If you don't get anything out of it it's not a huge deal. It's like getting mad at colorblind options

[quiet abyss]

"literally everything else" is just... lighting color though. That's it.
I don't think it's really necessary to implement a config to disable shaders when, like demik said, you could literally just swap to retro/white for like 4 minutes then swap back.

[dapper coral]

the difference is it creates more work for devs when there is a super easy option already there

[quiet abyss]

^ This, too.

[hot zephyr]

You could say that for a majority of the suggestions here tbh

[safe oasis]

happening a lot doesnt mean its right

[dapper coral]

...no? most suggestions address something that don't have an actual solution by the player
and even if that were the case, it still doesn't address your sugg

[quiet abyss]

The main difference is that many others suggestions are actually worth looking at and don't actually feel like band aid fixes. And yours is not one of them, to put it bluntly.

[hot zephyr]

... There's literally a suggestion for more ore toilets

[cobalt pewter]

[safe oasis]

a valid one

[tawny garden]

[golden narwhal]

[quiet abyss]

I never said that one is one of them...

[dapper coral]

that one doesn't count smh, we know that one is horrible yet valid

[hot zephyr]

Anyways

Is my suggestion violating any don'ts

[tawny garden]

Nope

[hot zephyr]

Then we're done here

[dapper coral]

not explicitly
however it doesn't have sufficient reasoning to justify a config over just changing your lighting settings for 4 minutes

[tawny garden]

But the toilets sugg also doesn't violate don'ts

[quiet abyss]

Shrugs Just because it doesn't violate anything doesn't mean it's a good sugg.

[cobalt pewter]

din'ts

[golden narwhal]

Probably should mention the lighting thing tho, since that seems to be the argument against it

[tawny garden]

:FUCK_MOBILE:

[hot zephyr]

@dapper coral How's that

[dapper coral]

that's good enough for me

i still personally disagree but at least it has been addressed

[quiet abyss]

Mhm, suppose that works.

[tawny garden]

Yea

[golden narwhal]

[tranquil perch]

Ping me for discussing sugg

[safe oasis]

@tranquil perch needs more reasoning
you go into why no telegraph is bad but you don't give any reasoning on why he should look at where he's about to dash

[tranquil perch]

would make Old Duke easier to understand for newer players.

[hollow shell]

Dang, I'm surprised this didn't pass
#suggestions-voting message

Maybe people feel like it'd spoil the challenge or something?

[dapper coral]

i would imagine that's the case, yeah

a lot of people voting aren't new players, or at the very least have read the wiki page on OD and know vaguely how he works

[eternal escarp]

so many complain about the dashes im surprised it didnt pass actually

[eternal escarp]

oh actually that makes sense

nevermind my last comment

[golden narwhal]

Yea, "it doesn't affect me so I won't star it" is something I assume is normal

[dapper coral]

hence why the point about being easier for new players is valid but doesn't quite appeal to a lot of people

[tawny garden]

Calamity is made to be difficult, yea

[tranquil perch]

I mean

A more intuitive fight is better than a less intuitive one

No matter how you put it

[cobalt pewter]

I guess a "difficult fight" and a "clueless fight" shouldn't be generalized. A fight can be difficult while you know everything that is happening throughout your first try

[safe oasis]

i realize the sugg is poorly worded i couldnt think of a better way to phrase it

[hollow shell]

Doesn't he raise his hands before slapping?

[cobalt pewter]

Yes iirc

[dapper coral]

they do but

sometimes they kinda just disappear for a bit

[safe oasis]

he also raises his hands randomly, not much of a telegraph

[dapper coral]

and then zoom back at hyper speed

[safe oasis]

theres also the infamous "hands so far they literally despawn" technique

[dapper coral]

that's the one

[golden narwhal]

He never raises his hands randomly unless rev+ pulled a funni, byea

[eternal escarp]

its also like, kindof on a set timer im prty sure

[golden narwhal]

Should probably address that yea, he raises his hand to telegraph a swipe, tho it is problematic (offscreen, sometimes doesn't pull far enough before swiping, etc)

[eternal escarp]

first the right hand, then left

[earnest cape]

i remember skeletron hand pulling a no u and fucks off only to telefrag

[golden narwhal]

O shit, yea, teleports exists

Don't remember how they impact hand telegraphs

[hollow shell]

It'd be good to at least mention the hand-raise telegraph in the sugg

Explain why they're insufficient rather than, ignoring their existence

[golden narwhal]

@safe oasis yo, and ^

[safe oasis]

alr

that works?

[golden narwhal]

Think so
(Title could also be changed to "better/proper telegraph", since yea, one exists)

[hollow shell]

That looks better yeah

[halcyon dagger]

yoo what if calamitas helps you midway during fighting yharim??

[earnest cape]

that would be future sugg

[eternal escarp]

and would prolly need a good reason other then "itd be cool"

[halcyon dagger]

"at last i am free, for a time, i will keep coming back til we meet again, farewell" she says something like this

didnt read the entire thing because it was so fucking tiring

[eternal escarp]

she becomes an NPC, thats (prolly) what that relates to

dunno if it qualifies as a reason tbh

[warm scarab]

[halcyon dagger]

maybe

she gives a buff that will help against yharim?

[eternal escarp]

youd still need a good enough reason to suggest that, and wait until yharim actually is a thing

[halcyon dagger]

"calamitas' blessing"

[earnest cape]

unless you want to post it as a sugg after the update's released it's a no-no

[halcyon dagger]

its just a thought

[tawny garden]

NPCs are usually helpless themselves

props to the Drunk Princess for shredding stuff

[earnest cape]

[rain basalt]

Also is Deus going to have more resistances? Because Snowman Cannon doing a better job at killing it then it's upgrade

[earnest cape]

i feel it's not giving deus resistance it's more of buffing the upgrade

i assume you're talking about scorpio

[eternal escarp]

well in snowmans case, prolly yeah

[rain basalt]

Yeah

[eternal escarp]

but as a whole deus needs certain resists prolly

https://gyazo.com/765c7c17f1ac180406d85c876e847128

aegis blade moment

[earnest cape]

funney aegis blade

[rain basalt]

Yep

[eternal escarp]

well any inf piercing weapon on worm enemies really

byeah

[earnest cape]

but tbh it's snowman cannon that needs a nerf

it's

extremely strong

[rain basalt]

Yep

[earnest cape]

both in vanilla and clam

[eternal escarp]

yeah snowman needs the nerf, homing + great damage is prty uh

[earnest cape]

inb4 1.4 has rockets that deal more damage than the weapon

[warm scarab]

the homing need a nerf

[warm scarab]

[earnest cape]

damage*

[rain basalt]

But I can't send it in #suggestions-posting because I suck at writing

[earnest cape]

the homing is fine

thats why we discuss it here

[tepid root]

didnt 1.4 add like mini nukes

which are just rockets but better in every way

[rain basalt]

Yep

[eternal escarp]

yes

but thats a problem that will be dealt with when 1.4 comes

[rain basalt]

But Red is more drunk then Fab

[silk lynx]

Maybe it could be a buff that gives you immunity to some debuff Yharim inflicts

[halcyon dagger]

tyrants rage debuff

automatically sets your defense to 0

[cobalt pewter]

????

[earnest cape]

???? indeed

[halcyon dagger]

ignore that

i have no good names

[earnest cape]

can we talk about actual suggs

[cobalt pewter]

Yes

[halcyon dagger]

ok

[eternal escarp]

i mean, if youre never intending on suggesting that then it prolly just fits as a convo topic at #calamity-mod-talk

[halcyon dagger]

night profaned guardians

[earnest cape]

die

[halcyon dagger]

no

[fossil finch]

ok but there's a thing
Nowhere else they would have thematical sense

[cobalt pewter]

Rebrand the potion

[sleek turret]

magnet potion

[safe oasis]

i should prob mention that they should be rebranded, huh

[molten quest]

Yeah you should

It wouldn't really make any sense if ceaseless hunger potions to be pre-ceaseless void-

[cobalt pewter]

Gonna be sleep, so feedbacks on me sugg will be responded tomorrow maybe

[eternal escarp]

arent flesh knuckles 1.4?

[mighty knot]

no

its upgrades are tho

[eternal escarp]

oh, nvm

thought of the upgrade ye

[mighty knot]

@pastel seal 'about the flesh knuckles' isn't a suggestion (titles should be a basic version of your suggestion afaik)

[eternal escarp]

its preferable

also, speaking of 1.4

[mighty knot]

it'll probably help to make your suggestion your title even if that's not true, because that's often all people look at

[eternal escarp]

they have like, 2 upgrades in 1.4, and you could say the same about most single use accesories

dont really see why specifically the knuckles, especially since they arent as major as other single use accesories tbh

[mighty knot]

meh

might as well make them useful

although corruption players will be kinda screwed over

[pastel seal]

ok ill edit it

[eternal escarp]

if anything, some accesories should sometimes just stay as they are, not everything has to be usefull imo

[pastel seal]

there are the opposite corruption islands

[mighty knot]

mmm

can you spawn crimson mimics on it?

[eternal escarp]

if every item has an upgrade and couldve been used forever itd just be like, well

yeah

[pastel seal]

you can move the blocks underground

[eternal escarp]

although

you could focus on both mimic drops, to make them both usefull

[pastel seal]

i gotta get back to a playthrough with a friend

true

[eternal escarp]

because making 1 have something while the other just gets nothing sounds wierder

so maybe mention the Putrid Scent (i believe?) too

since they are basically counterparts

[mighty knot]

iirc what mimic spawns is based on world evil, not biome

[whole sedge]

I mean yeah if flesh knuckles is gonna get something so should it's corruption counterpart

[mighty knot]

since the key uses souls of night and isn't evil-biome specific

[whole sedge]

and it's based on some data made at the start of the world so

[mighty knot]

so they'd have to make two versions of the rampart, one for putrid scent and one for knuckles, even barring the fact that it would lock out corruption players for just knuckles

[pastel seal]

aight i edited it

[mighty knot]

cool

[eternal escarp]

just to sound better, id call the title "Give (said items) a use" but thats just me nitpicking lol

[dapper coral]

i'll be honest, this just sounds like "put this in an accessory just because" or "it'd be cool"

there isn't really a real reason to add these things in here

[eternal escarp]

which was my first point yeah, i just didnt know if it was exactly valid

[dapper coral]

you could maybe say that "oh the defensive capabilities of the knuckles makes it a good fit to go into rampart," or something

idk

[eternal escarp]

(well prolly didnt explain it correctly reading back )

[dapper coral]

but as is it's not entirely valid

@pastel seal

[pastel seal]

alright

look better?

[dapper coral]

yea that's okay now

[tender flame]

I have a request; after beating supreme calamitas (or DoG, or something), can you remove at least 50% of ceaseless voids dmg reduction, or reduce the phases (or mash them together into 1 or 2); if you can beat it easily, there is no need to make it painful to get the potions or other items from ceaseless void

[dapper coral]

CV is already planned to become a more normal boss

not with the 200hp and 99.999% DR or whatever

so that probably isn't a concern anymore

[tawny garden]

1. there's an indicator already

2. why?

@celest laurel

you gotta have a reason

[celest laurel]

In 1.4, a Gold Bunny represents Journey Mode.
A Normal Bunny represents Normal Mode.
A Corrupted Bunny represents Expert Mode.
A Crimtane Bunny represents Master Mode.

I thought it would be fair for those two modes to have bunny icons too, plus, that icon can be used for the "Revengence Only" template on the wiki.

[tawny garden]

well, Calamity isn't on 1.4 yet

[eternal escarp]

and they arent toggled from that menu anyways

and im not sure if they could be?

[cyan lagoon]

i think it may be possible if red doesn't hardcode it

but it would be more convenient if they remain toggles

like how death mode is

[safe oasis]

just toggle through journey

[tawny garden]

they could be

though I won't be surprized if that would require good old IL

[eternal escarp]

yeah ig

but it is true its just plain easier as item toggles anyways

[tawny garden]

people don't like to be stuck in rev anyway

see: the many mods that made Expert toggleable

[celest laurel]

You win I guess 'cause my suggestion got marked with a ❗.

[tawny garden]

I mean

you can add a reason n stuff

[fossil finch]

(there is also no more bunnies for us to use lol)

[tawny garden]

bunny with a knife

[wooden quartz]

Explosive bunny for death

slime bunny, party hat bunny

Bunny slime

Maybe explosive for revengance and slime with bunny costume for death

if it were to be added despite the in-game ui

[eternal escarp]

A needs a reason
B you can use #general-media or #calamity-mod-talk for that tbh

[weak field]

Well this is a rare one

I'm pretty sure the art server has something like that

[eternal escarp]

idk maybe?

[frail mantle]

if you mean a channel to share builds you've made, the art server's build channel is the way to go @fast girder

[eternal escarp]

blike, alot of people do it in general media anyways too afaik

[weak field]

HA called it I'm not even in art server at all

[fast girder]

thank you 🙏

[frail mantle]

gen media or cal talk works too ye, but if you're also looking for feedback on your builds it's better to use the build channel

[burnt beacon]

ok what about about adding back the charger test item. charging the draedon weapons is kinda annoying during many boss attempts

[tawny garden]

that's the whole point of the weapons, innit

the test item bypasses an entire mechanic

[burnt beacon]

i know, but you need to cheat in the item so it only half-exists if you see what i mean. the item already exists so i dont see why it cant be in the game as an option for those who dont want to spend a while refuelling after every other boss attempt

[tawny garden]

makes sense

[eternal escarp]

not a counterarguement, but the item still exists in the CalTester mod

[wooden quartz]

"You need to cheat" No you don't, you just are.

[eternal escarp]

so you might wanna get that mod just so that you can get it

it is mostly a test item after all

hence the name tbh

[burnt beacon]

ah okay if its in that mod then theres no need. thanks i wasnt aware of it

[hollow shell]

This sugg seems weirdly narrow in scope but I guess it's fine

[dapper coral]

it's literally a cheat item

the whole point of the draedon weps is you have to charge them

adding this in would trivialize the mechanic

[tawny garden]

Demik, I already said that

[dapper coral]

then i'll say it again

[burnt beacon]

you dont have to use it lol

i can totally understand not wanting to, but i think it should be an option

[tawny garden]

I mean in fairness, if you have to use Cheat Sheet to obtain it

why not

[dapper coral]

that's not the point though
the point is, why would you give players the option to trivialize a mechanic that is the whole point of the weapons

[burnt beacon]

cause in modded terraria, the player has the option to do bloody anything cheaty anyway. whats the difference if you need cheatsheet for it.

[dapper coral]

so then use cheat sheet for it

[burnt beacon]

you need to yeah

im not saying to make it obtainable

dear god no

[dapper coral]

oh

that's what i thought you were saying

okay then

[burnt beacon]

yeah thatd be a bit too funky lol

[dapper coral]

uhhhh then i guess this is alright?

should specify that though

[hollow shell]

You don't mention it being unobtainable or needing to cheat to use it
in your suggestion

yeah

that could definitely be clearer

[dapper coral]

that it would be unobtainable except for cheat sheet

[burnt beacon]

i thought i did with the phrase "spawn in" but yeah ill clarify

one sec

aight

[hollow shell]

Aight cool

[zenith hazel]

bot's down, notified amber

[sleek turret]

uhh

calamity vanities adds a eidolon wyrm pet.

[dapper coral]

doesn't cal val

yeah

@south rover

[tawny garden]

also, "Jared"

[south rover]

It does? what is it called

[gray nebula]

best way to ask for a meme is to demonstrate you barely know about it

[whole sedge]

This literally is the definition of a don't also

[tawny garden]

[dapper coral]

ima yeet it

since it exists in cal val

[tawny garden]

it's a meme sugg anyway

[south rover]

Yep, even misspelled it on purpose

[languid quartz]

asian

the blood rain is pretty hard to dodge already tbf

so another attack, unless it was implemented pretty well, would just make the fight chaotic

[fossil finch]

(not really)

[languid quartz]

I suppose

[golden narwhal]

I mean, if it happened not at the same time as the standard blood rain, they shouldn't conflict at all

[languid quartz]

do you have anything in mind?

[golden narwhal]

An example of a possible attack is having the Hive rapidly shoot waves of its projectiles above you similar to Night Providence’s crystal attack.
Just this, since my creativity isn't exactly amazing for a boss I didn't design
So blood rain+, except it happens occasionally and seperate from its standard attacks

[languid quartz]

oh hm

that doesn't sound too bad I suppose

I was thinking something more like ichor sticker projectiles

[golden narwhal]

ngl that also came to mind

[languid quartz]

no please

[tawny garden]

[zenith hazel]

bot should be back up

[tawny garden]

[languid quartz]

[zinc mica]

sulphur sea lore item should prevent aquatic scourge from naturally spawning

[crystal iron]

Pretty sure that was suggested before

Maybe even approved