suggestions-discussion

[crude geode]

instead of just pissing on it and skipping over it

[pine star]

and that's what thomas is trying to do in DD

[cobalt pewter]

To be honest there's a serious lack of mini structures that you can find in the middle of excruciating mining

And no, shrines don't count

They don't even spawn all the time

[sand umbra]

and Calamity can't add any of those because it goes against the idea that pre-boss shouldn't exist, which is the idea that Calamity pushes currently

[hot zephyr]

Methinks you should suggest adding new content/positive changes to pre-boss instead of nerfing one of the only reasons to visit planetoids

[eternal escarp]

tbh, as much as world gen is prolly a pain, small structures can prolly just make pre boss mining so much better

[tawny garden]

tbf Pre-boss is the slowest part of the game with the most deaths so I don't like it too much either
the player character is too weak

[sand umbra]

[crude geode]

You already get a shit ton of life crystals from planetoids, as well as some free biomes if you're lucky.

[pine star]

As Thomas said, in the early game, you have the mobility of a disabled snail

[sand umbra]

have I somehow not made myself clear enough

[pine star]

And that is terrible

[dapper violet]

I’m still seeing zero justification for why or how removing ore makes pre-boss better, all i see is “Just do it because i don’t like people getting to fight desert scourge before 6 hours in”

[eternal escarp]

maybe make the starter bag include items that can just skip the annoying part of pre-boss? maybe give you an aglet or copper armour or smthn

[cobalt pewter]

I'm pretty sure starter bag is like

Quite thicc already

[eternal escarp]

fair

[cobalt pewter]

I'm surprised the bag can store that

Then again

[pine star]

Starter Bag can give you Hermes boots with the crafting recipe

[cobalt pewter]

This is Terraria

[eternal escarp]

starter void

[pine star]

Where people eat glass

[brittle nexus]

why do people have a vendetta with preboss

[eternal escarp]

tbh no idea

[cobalt pewter]

it's mostly tom

[eternal escarp]

i like pre boss after i get a decent weapon

[brittle nexus]

it's fine how it is right now imo

[crude geode]

What pre-boss?

[pine star]

Thomas is lawful evil for a reason

[brittle nexus]

cause king slime might as well not exist, doesn't give you shit

[eternal escarp]

the only thing i hate about pre boss is getting wood

[tawny garden]

cuz I suck and I die too much

[pine star]

slime hook

[sand umbra]

it's actually absurd that I had to explain this in the sugg itself

[crude geode]

All I know is grinding wulfrum until I kill the boss desert scourge

[sand umbra]

but then again this is sugg corner

there are like 3 and a half people that know how to use their reading comprehension skills

[pine star]

OHHHHHHH

I get it now

[eternal escarp]

i mean, i do agree with that point, yeah

[hot zephyr]

Y'know Thomas

[pine star]

this is a phase 1 of a multiple phase sugg

[eternal escarp]

but like

pre boss isnt that bad

[crude geode]

Am I one of those people Thomas

[eternal escarp]

imo, atleast

[crude geode]

what pre-boss

[sand umbra]

okay it's more than 3 and a half but either way I honestly shouldn't have expected this to actually get across in under 15 minutes

[crude geode]

you see a pre-boss around here? All I see is wulfrum, desert scourge, victide

[pine star]

It's kinda sad that Calam has the second best pre boss

[hot zephyr]

Your attitude does not help you further your suggestion

[pine star]

spirit has the best

[sand umbra]

okay

[pine star]

And zero is larger than a negative number

[sand umbra]

and that has stopped me in the past, when, again?

[hot zephyr]

I mean

[crude geode]

Thomas' attitude has always been his defining feature

[pine star]

Maybe this is why you are cursed to never have stars?

idk

[sand umbra]

because I'm not recallin' any times that backlash here has ever stopped me from suggesting things

all it does is give me a good image of how I can expect the sugg to fare in the way of stars

[pine star]

This boat will not sail well

[crude geode]

Nah, that's just his bad luck and recklessness in suggesting controversial things

[sand umbra]

and even then it's not an accurate estimate because most people that star suggs do not look in this channel

[hot zephyr]

I'm saying you can suggest things without verbally degrading people

[tawny garden]

is he verbally degrading people?

[hot zephyr]

"there are like 3 and a half people that know how to use their reading comprehension skills"

[tawny garden]

m

[dapper coral]

let's refrain from that

[sand umbra]

m
apologies for that, just. me getting a bit too heated, as always

apparently that still happens from time to time
now, whether it's somethin' that's been buildin' up for months or just a spur of the moment burst of irritation in this case, I got no clue

[pine star]

Apology accepted
Just don't say shit like that again

Or try not to

[pine star]

Probably both

[sand umbra]

yeah it's probably a mix of both

this is far from the first time I've had to fight tooth and nail to get a point across

and God help me it will not be the last

[crude geode]

I think the suggestion makes sense, especially when you consider game design, but phrasing and tone would go a long way to get it across efficiently in sugg discussion.

[civic notch]

You see, I usually admire standing your ground, but on that suggestion of all things man.

[sand umbra]

tone has never been my strong suit, we've established this

[civic notch]

We don’t need more grinding in the early gameplay loop

[crude geode]

I think it makes more sense when you actually view the suggestion.

reminds me of writing essays in school, Thomas' "response paragraph" to a invisible complaint

[civic notch]

If you want to spend time getting really good stuff

Then do it

Play death

Idk

[sand umbra]

Death does nothing but make earlygame more awful than it already is although I'm pretty sure I already pitched something for that (making weather effects not glorified instagibs)

[civic notch]

But forcing everyone to play early boss’s really long and boring ore fetch fuckfest is kinda meh

[hot zephyr]

The suggestion makes sense, but I feel the order is backwards. Instead of removing the skip first, then adding new content down the line it should be the other way around. Add new content to make pre-boss more interesting and then remove the skips.

[sand umbra]

but that inherently keeps the design ceiling low

[crude geode]

You did in fact. I remember because you used my examples.

[civic notch]

The design ceiling is already low

It’s pre-boss

[crude geode]

It being so easy to skip is part of the problem.

[sand umbra]

in the presence of anything that allows you to skip a significant portion of the game, you cannot add anything that would require more work to find than the method of skipping that portion of the game

[crude geode]

It's the exact reason why late hm progression is shit.

[sand umbra]

I didn't want to suggest removing it right away because you are correct in that Calamity in its current state could use some ways to speed up pre-boss

[civic notch]

No, you can.

You can very easily do so.

[sand umbra]

well okay

[crude geode]

Even if you added more pre-boss content, nobody is going to care unless you prevent the easy skips.

[sand umbra]

you can

[civic notch]

You aren’t being held captive by the chains of design

[sand umbra]

the question is "will it matter?"

[civic notch]

Will people be upset?

[crude geode]

Afterall, we see an example in Late HM.

[civic notch]

Yeah.

That’s inevitable though

[pine star]

And here is the elephant in the room:

Reaver Shark

[sand umbra]

because at the end of the day, you've fucked yourself over either way
if you keep it slow, people stop caring and don't wanna do that shit anymore
if you keep it fast it gets really boring to replay really quickly because it's the same thing every time

and you might say "why not strike a balance between the two?", and that's a valid question mind you

the answer to that question is this:
"the suggestion that would expedite striking that balance is tremendously too grand-scale for me to pitch myself"

[civic notch]

If it’s so grand scale maybe you shouldn’t suggest anything if we have to settle with less

[hot zephyr]

We've had grander suggestions pass

[sand umbra]

you don't understand

[civic notch]

We just got a huge rage suggestion pass

[hot zephyr]

Shoot for the moon, even if you miss you'll land with the stars

[sand umbra]

Terraria's earlygame is so inherently fucked on so many levels that you'd basically have to rebuild it to strike the aforementioned balance

[civic notch]

So what

[sand umbra]

I don't think it's my place to sugg something that big
I've done the research on this I literally intend to do this for my own mod
it's a massive task

[crude geode]

I think the reason why pre-boss is garbage is the exact reason why Late HM is garbage. There's no reason to do anything like go mine or explore or anything, because you can disregard it so easily. Why bother killing the bosses that are pre-cultist when you can just kill cultist and get better gear?

Why go mining or exploring when you can just kill wulfrum enemies or go to space, and then kill Desert Scourge for better gear?

[civic notch]

Do we just stop trying

Because it’s hard

Come on man

[sand umbra]

no
we take smaller steps to accomplish a larger goal

[civic notch]

This is a step yes

[dapper violet]

the statement “Any content added to make pre-boss better will be ignored as long as you can still skip to platinum with planetoids” is fair and reasonable

However: I do not play terraria for the pre-boss experience. I do not play calamity for the preboss experience. I do not play any mod for the preboss experience. Skipping in any form is welcome and enjoyed.

[civic notch]

But it’s a step that should’ve come later

[sand umbra]

it's like making true melee as a concept viable again
have to take it one step at a time

[pine star]

So make LC stronger?

So that one cannot just kill LC before PBG/Rav?

[hot zephyr]

Desert Scourge was literally implemented to speed up pre-boss because Fab thought it was slow. The pre-boss skips in this mod are intentional, and it's almost futile to get them changed.

[dapper violet]

there was actually a sugg for that, make LC scale based on how many bosses you’ve skipped

[crude geode]

#suggestions-voting message cough cough this sugg

the only good late hm sugg

[pine star]

IT'S AT 200 STARS NOW

[crude geode]

thank god

I was going to scream

[civic notch]

Yeah I just starred it lol

[crude geode]

good

[pine star]

THANK YOU

[tawny garden]

see, the chonky sugg strat worked

[civic notch]

Omw to remove the star

[tawny garden]

[hot zephyr]

humble

[pine star]

[frozen hornet]

Lol I had a ss of the sugg at 199 and was waiting for it to get 200

[distant gyro]

199

[tawny garden]

Altix

[pine star]

PUT IT BACK

[tawny garden]

why

[civic notch]

Oh lmfao that wasn’t me

[crude geode]

[civic notch]

I’m still starred

Someone else removed

[cobalt pewter]

lole

this is kinda hilarious

[sand umbra]

incredible

[distant gyro]

welp, it's not being sent then

[hot zephyr]

begin the mass unstarring!

[distant gyro]

[crude geode]

anyways, hoping that sugg doesn't die from Altix removing it, if that sugg can reach 200 stars, start suggesting your big grandiose nonsense Thomas

[distant gyro]

whoops now it's 198

[pine star]

It's 200 again

[cobalt pewter]

keep ds as a method to skip pre boss, but still try to implement more interesting stuff in preboss so that ppl who skip it can feel bad

gaming

[crude geode]

Late HM shows us that doesn't work

[civic notch]

What about making like

[dapper violet]

your brain on death mode

[frozen hornet]

now let's hope it gets through

[civic notch]

A pre-boss ankh shield

[pine star]

How about if you kill DS without finding the more interesting stuff in preboss, the game calls you a lazy fucker

[civic notch]

Not like an actual shield

[crude geode]

SCal comes down from the sky and slaps you, instagibbing you

[civic notch]

But a long crafting recipe pre-boss

[sand umbra]

trying something a little different

[dapper violet]

There’s interesting stuff in preboss?

[pine star]

Instagibbing won't work

[frozen hornet]

I can imagine Xeroc just saying "oi idiot you missed the best part"

[hot zephyr]

I don't want to play the worst part of the game!

[cobalt pewter]

that's because late hm has nothing interesting smh

[pine star]

Better to gaslight and accuse the player themself

[tawny garden]

you can cheat your way forward if you don't want to

[pine star]

Seems better

[sand umbra]

going for a compromise, essentially. it's either this or I just sugg to backport the ore gear price reductions from 1.4.1

[crude geode]

Call Plaguebringer Goliath not interesting one more time

[sand umbra]

PBG isn't interesting

come at me motherfucker

[pine star]

Cursed Being, CURSE THOMAS NOW

[cobalt pewter]

pbg is just

thicc, infected queen bee

[sand umbra]

(I have a vendetta against PBG for many reasons)

[pine star]

Thicc?

[civic notch]

Imagine making a part of the game so boring that veterans of the game do intentionally skip it

[tawny garden]

that can move diagonally*

[crude geode]

what you think I can curse people? I only exude natural cursed energy myself
indeed. along with the plague in general.

[cobalt pewter]

thicc as in fucking beeg

[pine star]

oh

[crude geode]

but that's a sugg for a different day

[pine star]

[frozen hornet]

The plague is cancer,therefore pbg is cancer

[crude geode]

[sand umbra]

mhm
a topic for another time and sugg

[crude geode]

anyways

[sand umbra]

right now, the focus is making planetoids less cringe

and more fascinating to visit

[crude geode]

about the sugg nobody has talked about

boss summoning items lame, make more interesting things

[sand umbra]

(and also Feedza's boss summoning sugg I guess)

[crude geode]

I wanna infect a queen bee and transform it into PBG

[fossil finch]

calamity qol features™️ make me want not to cheat through boring slow early game
thanks calamity qol features™️

[pine star]

Boss Zen is a QoL feature

[frozen hornet]

make ravager spawn in a random lab and make it's way through the world

[cobalt pewter]

if treated more interesting, even summoning items can be a bit more interesting given they don't use the exact same usestyle

[sand umbra]

Boss Zen should be a vanilla fucking thing

don't @ me

[crude geode]

@sand umbra

[frozen hornet]

A Thomas

Failure

[dapper violet]

man i love dying to anahita and levi and having to wait 10 minutes for another ??? to spawn

[cobalt pewter]

e.g. something I tried with my little wip mod is a living wood themed boss that's spawned with a bell that used by swinging it

[civic notch]

Hey what happened to aerialite’s implementation

[cobalt pewter]

just as an example

[sand umbra]

heh?

[frozen hornet]

just use unlimited battler potions smh

[civic notch]

The uh

[fossil finch]

just chug a zerg pot and one spawns at the second

[civic notch]

How aerialite was talked about to spawn in sky islands?

[sand umbra]

oh you mean the sugg I made a while back where Aerialite should spawn in the sky?

[crude geode]

that was a sugg by thomas or smthn

[sand umbra]

uhhhhhhhhhhhhh lemme check

[frozen hornet]

For me the ??? spawns right after I kill the boss

[crude geode]

I copied it at some point to make the theming in general less stupid

[civic notch]

No I remember Fab talking about it

[sand umbra]

(unrelated but Cryonic metal sugg has been approved. I have a chance pog)

[frozen hornet]

But that might just be me accidentally activating demon trophy

[crude geode]

Demon trophy is so fuckin weird

[pine star]

Where is it?

[civic notch]

Ah here we go

[cobalt pewter]

byeah, I'm generally down with more boss summonings that isn't just "hehe hold this shit up and boss spawns"

[civic notch]

#general-talk message

[sand umbra]

#suggestions-voting message Cryonic sugg

[pine star]

Thanks

Seven devs like it

[tawny garden]

#suggestions-voting message

[sand umbra]

.

okay

[distant gyro]

the suggestion that does not fit on one mobile screen

[sand umbra]

riddle me this
if there aren't enough other blocks up there to justify Aerialite spawning up there

[cobalt pewter]

I should probably mention OD, as much bafflingly annoying the bloodworms to get, it's still fairly unique on the scope of calamity

[sand umbra]

why in the everloving fuck do Exodium Clusters spawn up there

[distant gyro]

uh, no?

[crude geode]

Because they spawn in funny planetoids

[civic notch]

Because aerialite was gonna spawn in clouds

[distant gyro]

unless you count those randoms as devs

[pine star]

oh

I'm gullible as hell

[tawny garden]

once a 👍 is placed everybody can add it

[distant gyro]

[cobalt pewter]

number of reactions past the stars are irrelevant

[pine star]

[fossil finch]

exodium clusters are space thing

[crude geode]

and not in sky islands disregarding the fact that they could just be made to be larger

[fossil finch]

because

space

and lord moon

[sand umbra]

Exodium Clusters are legit the same fuckin' thing as what I'm pitching

[fossil finch]

why the fuck do exodium clusters exist anyway

[sand umbra]

if Aerialite can't spawn up there neither can Exodium

[tawny garden]

Exodium spawns in way less quantity tho

[crude geode]

Sky islands are noticeably smaller than planetoids, and there generally is a lot less of them

[civic notch]

That’s not true

Exodium is used for a lot less

[sand umbra]

Exodium veins are fucking huge what

it's just that they're used for like 2 and a half items

[pine star]

Exodium veins are the same size as Titanium ones to me

[cobalt pewter]

just make clouds

actually replaced by aerialite ores

and cease clouds in recipes

[ashen warren]

exodiums don't have a lot of use

[frozen hornet]

Huge? Last time I looked for exodium there were like clumps of 3-4 in the huge planetoid

[distant gyro]

Exodium is a big ass wip that will (not) secretly have more use in 2030

[crude geode]

[distant gyro]

remember what update it came out on

[sand umbra]

alright well that's a decade away so

[crude geode]

I’ll set my timer

[civic notch]

Make the cloud elemental pre hardmode but lose the tornado attack until hardmode, and make it only drop clouds

[crude geode]

Weirdchamp, prehm elemental

[civic notch]

That way getting clouds doesn’t suck

[dapper violet]

clouds drop in sufficient amount from harpies

[pine star]

Granite Elemental

[civic notch]

Wait clouds drop from harpies

Tf

[sand umbra]

Harpies don't drop Cloud Blocks normally no

that's another mod

[dapper violet]

oh oops

[cobalt pewter]

also apparently exodium is able to be crafted, so why does it spawn in the first place

[crude geode]

ok boomer, pre-hm waifu

[cobalt pewter]

I'm

confused

[crude geode]

In case you run out :)

[civic notch]

Convenience

[sand umbra]

anywho yeah
why is it that Exodium is allowed to spawn in space but Aerialite isn't

[crude geode]

Bc aerialite is sky related and not space related Thomas

[sand umbra]

that seems really fucking scuffed

[cobalt pewter]

and even then, wiki shows that exodium uses each of the lunar fragments instead of, idk, Galactica Singularity? The entire reason the item exists?

like

[frozen hornet]

Sky islands are in the sky?

[sand umbra]

[cobalt pewter]

[tawny garden]

what if
a planetoid made entirely of aerialite

[civic notch]

Because exodium is needed in much smaller quantities and when exodium spawns in the planetoids the whole planetoids will look unnatural

[pine star]

Reminder that I said Gold is an element

[ashen warren]

aerialite meteor

[sand umbra]

(imo Aerialite as a whole needs an overhaul because it's kinda all over the place but I can't be assed to suggest something like that)

[crude geode]

do it you won’t

Rage got a sugg that passed

Do it

[tawny garden]

Aerialite is one of the most ancient things in this mod

[crude geode]

[pine star]

[sand umbra]

it's fucking ancient right

[crude geode]

More ancient than you

[sand umbra]

one of many relics of a bygone age

[civic notch]

Honestly aerialite for me is one of the better parts of progression

[cobalt pewter]

thomas boomer confirmed

[tawny garden]

it was added in [[1.0]]

[red storm]

https://calamitymod.gamepedia.com/1.0

[distant gyro]

it is in fact a 1.0 item

[sand umbra]

I mean it's good where it is progression-wise it's just
design- and thematics-wise it's a total fuck

[crude geode]

Indeed

[frozen hornet]

Kill a random brain/w o r m s and get sky ore that spawns underground

[crude geode]

[sand umbra]

it's a sky-themed ore that spawns deep underground after beating up evil bosses 2: electric boogaloo

explain to me how that's consistent thematically

[frozen hornet]

What's the first?

[sand umbra]

EoW/BoC

2 being HM/Perfs

[frozen hornet]

What

Demonite/Crimtane is sky based?

[ashen warren]

why not just rework the vanilla armors into something that can actually compete with the mod's armor cough molten armor

[frozen hornet]

That's new

[sand umbra]

no

[dapper violet]

I’m curious why perfs/hive spawn air metal anyways

are they freeing the spirit of the people who lived in the sky islands

[crude geode]

Nope

[civic notch]

Don’t even try

The lore doesn’t mention anything

[crude geode]

Nobody lived in those islands, silly

[sand umbra]

oh yeah Aerialite also has no lore at all attached to it

or any explanation in any respect for that matter

[crude geode]

@sand umbra suggest a rework of it

[sand umbra]

it's just "evil bosses 2: electric boogaloo die, cavern-layer ore sky-themed go brrrrrrr"

[dapper violet]

prehardmode wings go brr

[sand umbra]

THE WINGS AREN'T EVEN ON-TIER

THEY TAKE BONES

FOR NO FUCKIN' REASON

[cobalt pewter]

tiering memes

[frozen hornet]

bird wings have bones but that's for another time

[crude geode]

You gotta have something to support those wings with no magical souls of flight

:)

[dapper violet]

yeah i feel like they wanted to make prehardmode wings and then just worked backwards into a whole armor tier and put it in mid-prehardmode

[cobalt pewter]

then we have many wings with only Ice Feather or shit

[sand umbra]

okay but they're still disconnected from the rest of the set

[tawny garden]

and they're not even that good tbh

[crude geode]

you still use the souls of flight :)

[cobalt pewter]

Skyline dies to BoB most of the time

[tawny garden]

not to justify them being moved later "due to balancing"

[cobalt pewter]

hell, skyline dies to yellow horseshoe balloon to me vs wof

[sand umbra]

Souls of Flight are a fucking crutch recipe-wise and that's that

thank you for coming to my TED talk

[crude geode]

Suggestion: Replace all souls of flight wing recipes with bones. For realism :)

[cobalt pewter]

Souls of Flight is just Red's troll to force us into dying to Wyverns

[unreal viper]

Very short for a Thomas talk

[tawny garden]

[unreal viper]

[sand umbra]

actually you know what
fuck the planetoid sugg
this is more important to me

[eternal escarp]

wait

[crude geode]

Fuck pre-boss, aerialite must be reworked

[eternal escarp]

ive missed alot

what happened

[crude geode]

Thomas arrived

[civic notch]

Every single material has been called material bloat at one point here swear to god

[eternal escarp]

well i know that, what happaned that he is removing his planetoid suggest?

[sand umbra]

well no

[unreal viper]

Remove materials

[sand umbra]

but I am willing to give up a few stars on that one

[unreal viper]

[tawny garden]

not every, ores haven't been yet

[sand umbra]

making Aerialite not stupid is important to me

[civic notch]

Some have

[crude geode]

Aerialite ore is just material bloat

[eternal escarp]

remove tin, its bloat

[cobalt pewter]

Calamity is a bloat

[tawny garden]

ah rly? fuck

[sand umbra]

and honestly if shit like a Rage rework can get through I can absolutely get larger suggs through

[cobalt pewter]

go back to vanilla heathens

[eternal escarp]

terraria is just a video game bloat tbh

[sand umbra]

letsfuckinggooooooooo

[crude geode]

Leviathan is bloat

[civic notch]

To shame philo

To shame

[sleek turret]

remove 1.2 vanilla ores

[eternal escarp]

video games are just bloat

[sleek turret]

they bloat.

[eternal escarp]

remove video games

[unreal viper]

Video games are entertainment bloat

[cobalt pewter]

life is just a bloat

[eternal escarp]

i did it faster heh

[cobalt pewter]

we don't need life

[crude geode]

Entertainment is just mind bloat

[sleek turret]

reject 1.2 ores, return to 1.1 ores.

[eternal escarp]

remove bloat from TBOI please i hate this fucking boss

[crude geode]

remove enjoyment

[cobalt pewter]

we all now return to monke

[crude geode]

Sugg, I dare you

[dapper coral]

how about return to sugg

[eternal escarp]

i would but no

[crude geode]

we’re waiting on Thomas’ epic new aerialite suggestion

[cobalt pewter]

Mayhaps™️

[unreal viper]

E p i c

[eternal escarp]

tbh i see quite a few of materials actually being bloat
my biggest material bloated is all the vanilla feathers tbh
but sadly thats not anything we can really fix

[dapper violet]

i’d even accept something middling like “the harpy people were driven to the sky islands by the corruption/crimson and that’s why the hm/perf spawns aero”

[civic notch]

Hey speaking of the feedzuh suggestion. I do wanna say that Anahita is extremely annoying to refight and that spawning items, while not unique, do save so much time

[crude geode]

🇪 🇵 🇮 🇨

Zerg exists

[cobalt pewter]

indeed

but I'm primarily implying in the case of non-farm situations

[civic notch]

Even then

[eternal escarp]

tbh leviathan and anahita aare like, the only boss without an item afaik

[cobalt pewter]

when you'd naturally encounter these bosses and all

[dapper violet]

i don’t know about hive mind because i never do corruption worlds, but perforator has exceptionally edgy and blood kill death gore themed weapons that drop from it, and the armor being all air related is a little bizzare

[eternal escarp]

deus has a beacon after you kill him, and OD is just keep fishing, which u can buy later or

more unique summons, with an item available after defeated them is great imo

[cobalt pewter]

yeah, summoning items in the case of farming is fine

[eternal escarp]

anahita&levi is the only example of that no happening iirc

[cobalt pewter]

though I personally prefer after you successfully killed the boss the first time

[eternal escarp]

which is whats already happening

which is good

[cobalt pewter]

oh lordy, my sugg is squeezed between both of tom's

[sand umbra]

feedza sugg sandwich lets goooooooooo

[crude geode]

ara ara

[eternal escarp]

feedzandwich 😳

[cobalt pewter]

n o

[civic notch]

Fab already said he isn’t doin that tho

[eternal escarp]

aint doing what?

summon item for levi?

[civic notch]

Moving aerialite up

[sleek turret]

ok can agree with this sugg

[civic notch]

To higher

[eternal escarp]

oh

[sand umbra]

I do not care

[civic notch]

I can agree with the suggestion but fab just said no

[sleek turret]

moving aerialite to the heavens.

[sand umbra]

if Exodium can spawn up there Aerialite absolutely can

[eternal escarp]

i mean it is a suggestion, and they can deny it

thats how suggestions work

[crude geode]

It’s not invalid by any means

[eternal escarp]

^

[civic notch]

Exodium is a different beast Thomas

[crude geode]

Not really

[dapper violet]

it has to get stars to even get to the rejection point

[cobalt pewter]

actually hm / perf actually kinda do this farm spawning thing

you initially start by finding their cysts

[sleek turret]

make aerialite exclusive to fishing

[cobalt pewter]

and after either killing the bosses or getting enough blood samples (in case of perf), you can get their direct summoning items

[sand umbra]

added some alternative options

[civic notch]

It is. Exodium isn’t used as much and therefore can spawn in an area where if it bugs out, you can still get enough for what you need

[hot zephyr]

Convert aerialite to exodium by right clicking galactica singularity on it

[eternal escarp]

yes

[cobalt pewter]

even then cal adds crafting so them, so why bother with genned amount

[eternal escarp]

^

[cobalt pewter]

[sand umbra]

Aerialite becomes Beta Exodium

...honestly I'd be down

[civic notch]

Because once again

Convenience

Lol

[eternal escarp]

tbh id love a good reason to explore planetoids

[civic notch]

I don’t wanna craft shit me wanna mine

[eternal escarp]

oh no

[civic notch]

[eternal escarp]

mah quality of liif

[crude geode]

aerialite is what Astrum Deus is made of when DoG eats him

[eternal escarp]

tbh crafting exodium is faster then mining it imo

[cobalt pewter]

thonkin

[civic notch]

I’ve always just easily flew up there and mined it

[eternal escarp]

this really isnt that much

[earnest cape]

Touhou emotes

[eternal escarp]

id have an abundance of luminite after ML next update anyways

[civic notch]

It’s simple, takes no time, and I can use the fragments for other thing

[cobalt pewter]

crafting exodium is easier technically, it goes into play mostly post-polter, and you can easily farm both deus and ml like pests at that point

[eternal escarp]

^

[sleek turret]

yeah

[eternal escarp]

and agian

[frozen hornet]

Should exodium take galacticas instead of the 4 fragments?

[cobalt pewter]

also this recipe doesn't use galactica singularity instead of fragments, fun

[eternal escarp]

luminite will be WAY easier to get next uipdate

[eternal escarp]

tbh it should

why does it not?

[earnest cape]

Mining for exodium wields more and is costless

Imo

[eternal escarp]

whos gonna suggest

[cobalt pewter]

probably oversight

[frozen hornet]

Same with lunar hook and celestial sigil

Me or someone idk

[eternal escarp]

HF

use this image

[cobalt pewter]

lunar hook and celestial sigil are mainly vanilla items

[crude geode]

Lunar hook and celestial sigil are from vanilla

[sleek turret]

did I heard, the oversight?

[sand umbra]

Lunar Hook not taking Singularities makes sense

same with Sigil

[eternal escarp]

have fun

[cobalt pewter]

[eternal escarp]

exodium doesnt

the rest do yeah

[frozen hornet]

Thamks

[eternal escarp]

np

wait

[sand umbra]

(the real problem is that because of how crafting works in this game you cannot deconstruct Singularities back into fragments)

[eternal escarp]

NEBULA IS CUT OFF

WAIT

[crude geode]

big oof

[eternal escarp]

fixed

or tbh

either one works

[swift wharf]

meld do be weird

[crude geode]

Allow us to grind galactica singularities at the ancient manipulator into fragments

[swift wharf]

is meld a lunar fragment too? nobody knows

[sleek turret]

meld is uhh, weird.

[sand umbra]

it is and isn't

it's wonky

[crude geode]

don’t bring it up

[dapper violet]

meld is ground up rogue powder

[sleek turret]

Meld is just, there.

[swift wharf]

lol, i was thinking about the same thing but grab bag

[earnest cape]

Meld is technically

[sleek turret]

For the rogue people, I guess.

[crude geode]

Snort the powder, accept it’s existence

[earnest cape]

Snort cocaine

[cobalt pewter]

Meld is intended to be classless somewhat?

[swift wharf]

well, i like that meld is somewhat unique so it's cool

[cobalt pewter]

I can't remember who said it

[earnest cape]

this is a joke dont kill me

[cobalt pewter]

But there's a reason why there are a couple meld weapons

That aren't rogue

[dapper violet]

meld is like “ah, shit, we need a rogue luminite set but 4 pillars are hardcored into the game”
at least it’s not xeroc anymore

[crude geode]

Meld hurts my brain

[eternal escarp]

ive found another disturbing thing

[sleek turret]

xeroc armor (empyrian armor) in fact was multiclass on older versions.

[cobalt pewter]

Make a new pillar for rogue

[earnest cape]

Tbf theres also weapons that uses lunar fragments that isnt for their class

[swift wharf]

why no meld monolith tho smh

[tawny garden]

not happening

[earnest cape]

Like luminous striker using stardust for some god unknown reason

[cobalt pewter]

This is different, like, those weapons are PURE Meld

[eternal escarp]

@frozen hornet add this aswell

[crude geode]

That’s prolly oversight

[eternal escarp]

solstice claymore is also cringe

yeah

[cobalt pewter]

Yeah some of these might be oversights

[eternal escarp]

just make it have singularities tbh

[frozen hornet]

Aight didn't notice lol

[dapper violet]

big fan of that meld bar weapon that just throws the enormous fucking orb which explodes in an hour

[earnest cape]

B-but

[cobalt pewter]

The weapon is engineered to delete Deus and nothing else

[proper grail]

Star of Destruction

[crude geode]

@radiant meadow oversight with solstice claymore recipe, requires fragments instead of galactica singularities

[eternal escarp]

oh

straight ping?

[radiant meadow]

Dunno if I would call it exactly an oversight but perhaps

[swift wharf]

and why is meld construct/blob two things just use one smh

[eternal escarp]

this and exodium are the only ones i can find doing this

so yeah

[pine star]

the same reason that ores and bars exist

[tawny garden]

has anybody called Galactica Singularities material bloat yet?

[zealous ridge]

anything that uses 4 frags should probably just use galactica pretty much

eh, do you think they are philo?

[civic notch]

Shit. Omw to call the lunar fragments material bloat

[eternal escarp]

i mean, these are the only 2 that use fragments instead of singularities

[tawny garden]

(I'm not against them, to make it clear)

[swift wharf]

like other fragments, they are obtained by the same means so it doesnt make too much sense

[zealous ridge]

because I think they really just go against material bloat

sure it’s a new material

[frozen hornet]

Frik I can't word this

[eternal escarp]

wdym

[civic notch]

We were being sarcastic

[zealous ridge]

But it’s basically 4 items fused into a single easy crafting mat

[earnest cape]

I feel galac has same vibe as ascendant spirit essence

[eternal escarp]

should i write it instead altrax?

[frozen hornet]

Idk how to say what I want to say

[zealous ridge]

Yeah it’s similar

[civic notch]

Because material bloat is a phrase used

Far too often

[eternal escarp]

ight im writing this

[tawny garden]

this might be redone into a singularity next update

[zealous ridge]

It is used too often

[cobalt pewter]

Don't they serve the same purpose as ASE or Auric bar?

[frozen hornet]

That'd be splendid

[zealous ridge]

Because people like having a scary sounding word for bad resource management

[eternal escarp]

ill type it out here first, since its first suggestion and all

[tawny garden]

they do

[earnest cape]

Its basically just ASE but later game

Earlier*

[zealous ridge]

imagine elemental items with all 4 fragments in the recipe

Or auric Tesla with all the fragments

[frozen hornet]

Oh lord thatcd be insane

[zealous ridge]

(That assumes they need to be there anyways, though, an THATS debatable)

[frozen hornet]

And with the crazy amount of weapons that craft into exo weapons

[earnest cape]

Man crafting an armor would take your whole inventory

Cause of all the materials

[frozen hornet]

Imagine crafting the Drat bow

[cobalt pewter]

Limitations of Terraria's crafting item limit is the reason some of these exist

[tawny garden]

also iirc there's a limit to how many ings you can have in a recipe

[zealous ridge]

Mhm

[tawny garden]

yeah

[cobalt pewter]

Though I heard rumors that the limit was changed in 1.4

[earnest cape]

Wow

[pine star]

it was iirc

[earnest cape]

Ah yes

[cobalt pewter]

@sand umbra can ya confirm that btw, since you're the funne 1.4 mod guy

[earnest cape]

Zenith stuff?

[eternal escarp]

Rework recipes for Exodium Clusters and Solstice Claymore to use Galactica Singularities instead of the fragments

❔
The Exodium Cluster recipe is quite weird, it uses luminite and the 4 fragments, although every item from calamity that uses the 4 fragments combines them into one, the Galactica Singularity.
On another note, the Solstice Claymore does this exact thing, it uses the same quantity of fragments, but its all divided and not combines into Galactica Singularities
so my suggestion is quite simple, making the recipes require a Galactica Singularity instead of the 4 fragments, since they all require the same amount of fragments, and this way it will fit calamities recipes

sorry for this wall text tbh, but i rather get feedback here first

[tawny garden]

I've actually never heard any confirmation, so I might check source rn

[zealous ridge]

weird*

[eternal escarp]

oops

[zealous ridge]

not wierd

[eternal escarp]

thanks

[sand umbra]

apparently it was? or at the very least it's being annihilated for 1.4 tML

can't remember 100%

[zealous ridge]

you could probably also just make the suggestion about both of the items that use 4 fragments instead of galactica

[tawny garden]

public static int maxRequirements = 15; is 1.4.1.2

[zealous ridge]

solstice and exodium

[eternal escarp]

alright, ill add the solstice in aswell

[cobalt pewter]

So tmod is planning to then

[eternal escarp]

one sec

[cobalt pewter]

embrace Cal's 100-item recipe when that happens

[zealous ridge]

nah

[frozen hornet]

Maybe "change the recipe for exodium clusters to use galactica singularities instead of the pillar fragments" for the title?

[tawny garden]

public static int maxRequirements = 15; is 1.3.5.3

[zealous ridge]

dont think there'd be enough slots in the damn inventory to do that

[frozen hornet]

Or is that too lomg

[tawny garden]

so that info is WRONG

at least for Vanilla

tML might remove the limit

[zealous ridge]

fukc u phi lo

you ruined my dreams

[dapper violet]

fargo’s souls moment

[zealous ridge]

[eternal escarp]

fixed it

looks better now?

[hot zephyr]

You can craft from a chest

[eternal escarp]

#suggestions-discussion message

[tawny garden]

maxRecipes was changed from 2000 to 3000

[eternal escarp]

message link so no wall text

[zealous ridge]

thats true

but thats clunky as fuck honestly

i need my recipe chest to craft

[hot zephyr]

:)

[fossil finch]

just use magicstorage

[frozen hornet]

No

[zealous ridge]

fuck, you got me

argument invalid

[eternal escarp]

also changed the title like u suggested altrax

looks good?

[tawny garden]

Magic Storage is

[frozen hornet]

I hate magicstorage,it's so mildly infuriating but it builds up for the whole pt till it becomes unbearable

[tawny garden]

@eternal escarp post it

[frozen hornet]

Perfect pretty much

[eternal escarp]

aight

did it right?

[frozen hornet]

:+1:

Thanks a lot

[eternal escarp]

this is quite the pog

[tawny garden]

it could have more storage space at the start, I'll say that
but its concept is neat

[earnest cape]

The upgrades are expensive

That much i can say

[cobalt pewter]

Let's go #suggestions-posting is fucking crowded

[earnest cape]

Byeah

[cobalt pewter]

[eternal escarp]

lmao

[earnest cape]

[tawny garden]

17 suggs

[eternal escarp]

this single conversation lead to like, 4 suggestions

[tawny garden]

isn't the highest number that was achieved

[cobalt pewter]

Still crowded nonetheless

[earnest cape]

Whats the highest

[proper grail]

@eternal escarp

[eternal escarp]

yo im a part of the high score 😳

[tawny garden]

I remember there being over 20 suggs

[eternal escarp]

yeah?

[earnest cape]

Wow

[proper grail]

Fix your grammar!

[earnest cape]

Pretty close

[eternal escarp]

please tell me how

[frozen hornet]

I don't like how I have to close the crafting menu and open the storage menu to put items in

[eternal escarp]

i have no idea whats incorrect

[frozen hornet]

And then switch again when I want to craft

[tawny garden]

m, you're right

that was clunky

[proper grail]

"calamities" should be "Calamity's"

[earnest cape]

At least smart cursor exists

[eternal escarp]

woops

gonna fix that

[tawny garden]

(tbh I forgot that cuz I played a long time ago, but I hated that part as well)

[frozen hornet]

That just makes it worse from my experience

[proper grail]

There we go

[eternal escarp]

is there more to fix?

[frozen hornet]

When trying to click on the crafting menu it goes the basic menu

[tawny garden]

they could've just make it work like chests

[eternal escarp]

also thanks solstice lol

[proper grail]

"its" should be "it's"

And fix your capitalization

[eternal escarp]

will try

[earnest cape]

Also #other-mod-talk for magic storage stuff

Byeah

[civic notch]

Oh is formatting a bigger thing in suggestions now

@ feedzuh

[eternal escarp]

i think i capitalized correctly?

[pine star]

It's more grammar

[tawny garden]

no

[cobalt pewter]

[civic notch]

Noooo

[dapper violet]

Suggestions discussion, by the way

[proper grail]

You missed one, capitalize Calamity

[tawny garden]

Soltice is just trying to get everybody to spell properly

[eternal escarp]

oo right

thanks

[civic notch]

Good on ya solstice

[eternal escarp]

hawks eye tbh

[civic notch]

You win today feedzuh

But one day, you will answer to your formatting crimes

[earnest cape]

Stop doing a chetto

[cobalt pewter]

I decided to do bulleting and numbering kinda differently now

[eternal escarp]

i mean

fixing grammar is for the better

i dont want to look like a 9 yo

lol

[earnest cape]

ik im jk

[tawny garden]

@cobalt pewter while you're here, the recipe ings limit hasn't changed from 1.3.5.3 to 1.4.1.2

[civic notch]

How so?

[tawny garden]

it's still 15

[cobalt pewter]

I saw

[tawny garden]

[civic notch]

your life depends on this

[proper grail]

Change "not combines" to "not combined"

[eternal escarp]

i went to fix the all divides but then i see it never existed

lmao

yeah

[proper grail]

But that's all

[sand umbra]

(it's changing for tML though, from what I remember, although I'd have to double-check)

[eternal escarp]

aight

thanks a lot solstice

[earnest cape]

(God i hope its increased for tMl)

[proper grail]

Perfect

[eternal escarp]

i have satisfied the needs

[earnest cape]

God i hope my folly sugg gets through this time

Im very doubtful

[frozen hornet]

if this gets 200 stars then it'll be my third sugg to get 200

[earnest cape]

Your auric dye sugg already reached 200

[frozen hornet]

Ye ik

[earnest cape]

[hollow shell]

(alright so re: Thomas's Aerialite sugg
What if you used the Hive/Perf material drops to craft a Disgusting Creation, an effigy so vile that the essence of the sky itself wants to destroy it
You place it in the sky layer and Aerialite shards materialize out of the air to attack your disgusting creation, which then drop as collectibles)

[eternal escarp]

thats

cool af

[cobalt pewter]

That's

[eternal escarp]

and would give true shadow scales / blood samples a bit of a better use

[cobalt pewter]

Infinitely more interesting

[eternal escarp]

yeah

[cobalt pewter]

Than any other major ores in the mod

[eternal escarp]

omega amounts of better

[cobalt pewter]

Rover what did you drink this morning to get that

[eternal escarp]

youve had this idea before or did you just think of it?

[cobalt pewter]

[eternal escarp]

this is such a cool idea

[cobalt pewter]

@sand umbra hence forth, god.

[eternal escarp]

hence forth.

[hollow shell]

I did just think about that

[pine star]

That sounds cool

[cobalt pewter]

Woa

[hollow shell]

I woke up like 30 minutes ago

[eternal escarp]

holy shit

[cobalt pewter]

Holy shit

[pine star]

Holy fuck

[eternal escarp]

a good night sleep actually makes your brain a god

[hollow shell]

I would not be surprised if it has a bunch of logistical issues

[eternal escarp]

well, yeah

but the idea still is awesome

[hollow shell]

but, s'what I came up with to tie Aerialite to the Cal evil bosses

[cobalt pewter]

Idea is idea regardless

[sand umbra]

honestly?

I've heard and even created more outlandish concepts

[eternal escarp]

if that can actually happen ingame tbh that would be sick imo

[sand umbra]

I can vibe with this if it's done right

[eternal escarp]

tbh i just like the idea of giving their drops a good use

other then creating their other weapon drops and their summon

(and 1 or 2 one off items)

[hollow shell]

Yeah literally the only thing that Blood Sample is used to create which isn't redundant
is Carnage Ray

[eternal escarp]

its like, 2 good ideas merged into one

[cobalt pewter]

True Shadow Scale is like

[hollow shell]

(True Shadow Scale also gets Demonic Pitchfork, on top of Night's Ray)

[cobalt pewter]

One of them "True" memes

At least Blood Sample is a rather decent derivation from tissue sample

[eternal escarp]

yeah

[cobalt pewter]

Meanwhile Shadow Scale just gets a true version because yes

[eternal escarp]

but isnt the shadow scales on the hivemind's second phase to be changed or smthn?

or is nothing confirmed yet?

[cobalt pewter]

Iban wanted the ebonstone shell thing to come off at phase 2

[eternal escarp]

yeah

so maybe when that new sprite / idea drops

the true shadow scale is prolly bound to change

[cobalt pewter]

Honestly having the shell be left on there for the rest of the p2 is, sorta interesting

[eternal escarp]

so thats not something to be concerned off

yeah it is a nice idea

[cobalt pewter]

And like, True Shadow Scale cannot be dropped mid fight in any way

[eternal escarp]

unlike vorms

[cobalt pewter]

Byeah, the resprite should give way to making the item drop mid fight

[eternal escarp]

back to rovers idea, ig

[cobalt pewter]

That's gaming

[eternal escarp]

yeah

[hollow shell]

My idea's too specific to suggest so I'll just, write it down somewhere

[eternal escarp]

i dont think we have much to say lol, only thing is if its possible to make ingame

yeah

[tawny garden]

it is

[eternal escarp]

saying the obvious, are we philo?

[tawny garden]

although if you get rid of the name, it might not be so specific

[tawny garden]

yes

[hollow shell]

nahh overall it still is

[cobalt pewter]

devmocracy time

[tawny garden]

or that

[eternal escarp]

turns out ~~ on an emote makes it small

TIL

[sharp prism]

you can also do

** **

:emote: ** **

[eternal escarp]

fair

[sand umbra]

time to

devmocracy

[frozen hornet]

That's a horrible pun

[hollow shell]

It is legitimately what we named the dev-exclusive 'suggestion' channel

[frozen hornet]

Really? If so that's hilarious

[pine star]

seriously?

[tawny garden]

afaik that channel is relatively new

[hollow shell]

Created in mid-2020 yeah

[pine star]

[earnest cape]

fear

In fat

[eternal escarp]

that is absolutely hilarious

[frozen hornet]

👌

[earnest cape]

Take my terror good sir

[tawny garden]

#suggestions-posting message
this sugg is just "Helps against potato pc"

[sand umbra]

I mean it's not wrong in the slightest

Ele Quiver splitting causes 93% of all laptop deaths amongst Calamity players

[tawny garden]

and also iirc it will be a bluecheck

unless neither of the a thousand suggs about it have passed

[radiant meadow]

pretty sure Terraria destroys my laptop with or without ele quiver

[hollow shell]

Surprise

None of them passed

[ashen warren]

laughs in Earth

[eternal escarp]

that is surprising

but tbh

[tawny garden]

this one is blue #suggestions-voting message

for some reason

[eternal escarp]

theres way more stuff that can cause laptop deaths tbh

[civic notch]

That one is better written

[hollow shell]

Hang on maybe the delivered one was worded poorly, I'll look more

... legitimately I can't find anything in the dev server

[tawny garden]

this isn't surprising as well

[eternal escarp]

the mysterious anoumalous blue check

you could make an SCP out of this

no dont

[tawny garden]

you could make a religion out of this!

[hollow shell]

I see like 6 or 7 ele split toggle suggs in voting, but none with green checks

[tawny garden]

yeah

even before the cutoff, or before #suggestions-posting

[eternal escarp]

wasnt these suggested fairly recently?

but less specific

[tawny garden]

I do remember it

[eternal escarp]

yeah same

[crystal iron]

Oh

[eternal escarp]

it just said "rework the biome"

and stuff like

[crystal iron]

Oh

[eternal escarp]

thing is

how recent was it?

[tawny garden]

#suggestions-voting message

[eternal escarp]

so wait

[tawny garden]

and it has 🛠️

[eternal escarp]

its to be implemented?

yeah

so your suggestion is technically granted

[crystal iron]

Oh then do I take it down or leave it

[dapper violet]

[tawny garden]

or, at least, it will be reworked so save your sugg somewhere in case some of it will still apply after the update comes out

[dapper violet]

We’ll see!

[crystal iron]

Ah ok

[proper grail]

Hehe I already know what's going to be happening to the Crag, and while I can't discuss it (patron server stuff), it's really awesome and fixes more than one set of suggestions we've had here

[pine star]

cool

[crystal iron]

Oh heck ye

[dapper blaze]

walking

[sharp prism]

@tawny garden theres a sugg channel in stevies server for a reason

[tawny garden]

I'm not in there

[sharp prism]

then

[eternal escarp]

[sharp prism]

join

[tawny garden]

let me in.

[dapper blaze]

dude I can't take emote suggs seriously

[frail mantle]

i don't think anyone can

[tawny garden]

can anybody take them seriously?

[hollow shell]

(btw @half kayak You still need to edit your suggestion)

Yeah by their very nature, emote suggs are hard to take serious

Emotes are like 99% meme

[half kayak]

never suggesting again

[dapper blaze]

yeah fair enough

[half kayak]

i get spam pings for the next 10 hours

[dapper blaze]

the (usually) meme-y image combined with some simple description essentially telling us the same thing as the name is just funny to me

[hollow shell]

Well you won't get pinged if you fixed your sugg

[half kayak]

deleting it instead

[dapper blaze]

cool

[frail mantle]

fuckin

[hollow shell]

Ah

That's fine

[frail mantle]

for a moment i thought darkness' suggestion was "remove the calamitas clone fight"

[tawny garden]

lol

[dapper blaze]

shit

I made the same mistake after reading what you said rex

[hollow shell]

Cal Clone is a pretty garbo fight yeah

Prolly will get a rework when the big funny resprite happens tho

[crystal iron]

Ah that's good then

[tawny garden]

I hope SCal's and Cal's resprites get implemented simultaneously

cause otherwise it wouldn't make sense

[sleek ore]

what is the big funny resprite

ok I replied the wrong message lol

[hollow shell]

SCal and Clone will be getting lore-accurate humanoid redesigns

@sleek ore

[sleek ore]

yoooo

lunatic cultist but it hurts just a little bit

[tawny garden]

similar to the concept art iirc

[sleek ore]

I have not seen this

[fossil finch]

clone is not supposed to tho iirc?

[pine star]

Calclone is getting resprited

But I don't think it will be human

[tawny garden]

it's a clone

[hollow shell]

Probably some gross almost-human thing

[pine star]

Or if it is human, it will probably be malformed

[tawny garden]

not an eye of a clone

[pine star]

It isn't
None of Scal's DNA went into its making

[tawny garden]

oh god will it be somewhere in the uncanny valley?

[pine star]

Probably

Like it will probably look like a super deformed Scal

[dapper violet]

you know how dragonfolly is supposed to be a yharon clone but it’s all fucky and weird

i imagine something like that

[pine star]

yeah

Only worse because it's a fucked up human rather than a fucked up chicken dragon

[heady lichen]

yeah, birb got reworked, so scal deserves that treatment too

like dear god her fight is ancient

[pine star]

There will only be minor reworks coming with her human sprite

[hollow shell]

Scal won't change too much
Hopefully Clone will change a lot tho

[dapper violet]

so none of those brimstone monster suggs are gonna go through? are the current brimstone monster suggs larger changes than you anticipate being implemented into the game

[pine star]

They might go through

[swift wadi]

why dont some of these go through

[dapper violet]

depends on what “won’t change too much” means

[swift wadi]

does suggs work a different way now

[tawny garden]

still the same process as it was 6 months ago

[hollow shell]

dtrain means "go through" as in
Get acknowledged and implemented by the devs

in this case.

[tawny garden]

we should have a glossary

[dapper violet]

clarification

[ashen warren]

hello yes I have posted a sugg

[tawny garden]

future content

[ashen warren]

what does that mean?