#suggestions-discussion
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I was busy,,,
Thats a lot of explanation for an emote sugg
Better than the usual "it funny"
Tru
Expand on MGR emotes 


anyone else not seeing at all the pain in that sam smile
I also suck at seeing I guess
Shame

Feedza is having too much fun with gif emotes
Elemental Quiver already does this right?
Ok sam smile is like 20 times better than armsmrick but sundowner suggestion
I changed my suggs wording to talk more about the ambiguity of the smirk
So many people want that change for the quiver
why don’t we just add an emote of every single character in mgrr
even the 9 year old rocket scientist
and the orphan jack chopped in half
because we need to add more mgrr even tho it has no point to existing in a terraria mod
exactly
we really need to draw a line between referencing and dedication


Eh not really
Hage is more oh "fuck you i hope you have a nice christmas" kinda vibe
Can we just like have a public voting period of emotes so they stop taking up space in suggs. Similar to with Dragonfolly’s new name
that would be good, could be a sugg
same with scal suggests
sugg that
i feel like we shouldnt be making suggestions relating to the scal fight
Why not?
no?
Have not heard of that in any regard
shes getting a resprite lol
ye that

not reworked
and no more superboss status
Confusing resprite with rework

byech
Main reason those two posts were so close together was Bc of rover bringing up past failed suggs about it
SCal losing superboss status isn't a rework
The resprite will not bring major reworks to the fight
apart from a hitbox size decrease
I shouldn't have laughed at that but I did about the status
In fact the concept of a superboss is extremely weird
The fight will have some changes but I wouldn't expect anything too major.
iirc the only reason Scal is a superboss rn is literally because Draedon/Exo mechs do not exist
~~it’s Bc people haven’t seen my super cool and epic $50,000 super boss that one hit kills you
~~
gpz 10 intensifies
Please, Decrease your electronic device's aural output
@half kayak Why? It just creates more material bloat.
Abyssal bar isn't needed considering that one sugg about combining lumenyl, tenebris and depth cells into one
Is it like the fucking Ascendant Spirit Essence
It also got green check so it's being reviewed
Wait a sec
what was the name of the item
check the link
You can suggest it again
anyways it was my first suggestion thx for feedback
afaik the rework is mostly in the visual aspect of the fight
It would just be a bluecheck
It’s such a close time frame that it feels unnecessary
that was something i wanted to get out of the way when i saw a suggestions thing
turns out it wasnt the best
More like it was already suggested like a week ago exactly
oh ok
tell me about it
Ascendant spirit essence I can understand, since everything uses the three together. The abyss materials are often times separated, giving them more uniqueness.
i do think that 3 reaper teeth should turn into omega blue bar
There’s a few other things, like Silva and depths cells are just stupid
since i still have no idea how O.B set has anything to do with reaper teeth (cuz its themes around tentacles)
yes but things like post-scal weapons like fabstaff have shadowspec mats in them (ascend esssence is part of a.t cuz thats phantoplasm)
pretty much every post-scal weapon has a material that's already part of auric tesla bar
i meam, yeah
cuz giving more to eidolon wyrms would bloat them, and it’s more themed around the abyss in general.
shadoespec itself needs auric iirc
Shadow spec bars yes
ye
what about silva bar suggestion i could suggest
it'd be tenebris gold bar and darksun fragment
Silva is already getting reworked to be specific, and that seems like bloat.
yeah, the bars arent needed at all tbh
there are kinda a lot of redundant materials in the Silva Set
ok
i see why tenebris is there
i mean it feels a little abrupt going from bars to fragments back to bars
thats it tbh
I mean, it’s just how it be.
silva bar color could be an orange bar with a black outline
gold bars really don’t make sense in it besides the gold coloring of the armor which like...why
gold bars are part of silva set
its the only Auric component made from more than two materials
what about ascend essence
nono i mean the crafting itself
...I meant in the crafting of Silva
Cosmilite and Ascendant, Bloodstone and Souls
whereas silva has so much staff you gotta get'
you mean armor that is used in the auric set?
ye
Why does a nature themed set require gold bars? Does Silva get some sick kicks out of forcing you to give her solid bars of gold?
it haunts my dreams
tarragon only need uelibloom and divine aswell
ye
it hurts me
i cant unsee this now
Which mashes together materials tbh
why
i mean tenebris makes somewhat sense lore wise, but thats all i can think of
gold doesnt tho
yeah
what can't you unsee?
why is gold then
Use Silver like everyone says lmao
ah
Effulgent feathers make no sense in the armor crafting either
yeah
Not in any way to Silva
canonically im not even sure dragonfolly existed at the same time as silva
P sure it didn’t
Gold is an element
She prolly wouldn’t have approved of the abomination to nature
So it makes sense
bruh
tbh, i think silva armour should have a diffrent recipe all together, now that itll be post DoG instead
Shut up science nerd
Effulgent feathers don't though
Darksun and Cosmilite
to match God Slayer
arsenic intensifies
so it themes with god slayer alone
it's on the same tier
but cosmilite makes less sense
true
Realistically, darksun and tenebris.
yeah makes sense
tenebris kinda counts as an ore
I’ll suggest it at some point
and darksun is basically a boss drop, but it themes with god slayer since its an event drop
the devs always say to wait for the update to see how things change
recipe will be (as of now)
gold bars, tenebris, darksun fragments, and effulgent feathers at an ancient manipulator
wait
and i hate grinding for the lead core
...I still don’t see gold bars and effulgent feathers
as of now, meaning itll be changed next update, or as of now just until further notice?
kindof confused
well we cant be sure
it'll be changed next update to that
ah
What if, get this, we replace most of silva's crafting with
unless there's a sudden shift of plans
Gold is an element
So it is natural
it won't take ASE?

yeah thats fair
Dragonfolly is not natural though
no, why would it use buffed moon materials
that defeats the whole purpose of splitting up the events
the power of nature...? I don't know lol
Solar Eclipses are a natural part of life
god slayer is post moons and silva is post eclipse
Oh yeah I forgot the armor got split up
Just compress the silva armor crafting to use silva crystal instead of the current mess

haha
tbh i like that, but idk if itll work tbh
finally people would actually make the stuff too

i mean, id prolly wouldve gotten those blocks at some point due to building
byeah
More random shit thrown into silva’s “themeing”
i would but i get so little darksun already
oh it needs crystal shards? uff
Because funne crystals apparently
You need crystal blocks as the base

laughs in alchemistnpc
Laughs in Zerg potions
lol, byeah kinda cringe ngl
and if not we should wait anyway
silva is now crafted with halibut cannons
lemme reread that
however
It isn’t changed at all, besides lead core
fuck Lead Core
and psychotic amulet
i hate it with a passion
oh yeah lead core can just go pfft
nah psychotic amulet is fine
lead core is still part of the breastplate
either remove it or make it drop from Old Duke
fuck


I just opened up the leggings file


the post ML auric armours theming is forever ruined
Why does Silva require Effulgent Feathers and Gold Bars?

shiny!
darksun is already shiny
byeah, why does it need feathers and gold?
thats the part im interested to know tbh
oh irradiated immunity must've been removed when the global debuff resist was removed
cause it's golden and has feathers on it?
oh, well good thing you checked
changelog time
lol
silva is a golden bird confirmed 😳
maybe she was a blonde
I knew it all along!
Gold is an element
like...I can maybe kinda see the feathers if I squint at it
So it is fine
Hush
Phoenix themed armor 
I WILL NOT HUSH
that would be cool tho
except not phoenix themed because they’re removing the revive from the set bonus
Silva invuln is staying
GS revive is not

rip God Slayer Revive

That said, GS Superdash seems really cool
lauren exclamed it feed
The new dash is gonna be
mobility
new set bonus
oh?
shouldn’t it be reversed?
dog literally revives during the fight, why would you not get a revive from his armor?

He loses his armor during the fight
It's because it's boring
^
it sounds cool
like rod but pog
There's also the upgrade mentioned in the sugg
it was suggested
fuck why did I send a 0
Which is quite specific
Like, material bloat and was brought up exactly like a week ago
0
same idea
abyssal bar kinda
Material bloat isn't a reason to invalidate a suggestion though.
no it needs some absurdly specific adjective, like echolocatic
boring
Specificity is
Yeah a bit of specific stuff is in the sugg
Like Omega Blue Bar
Indeed

I thought hadopelagic was just a word yall made up when i first saw it
combining all this organic stuff into a bar and then upgrading it with more organic stuff into a bar
bars more like baring
Material Bloat isn't a don't, Cursed, no matter how much you want to see it go 
I wonder if anyone realizes abyssal bar is a bar name from ancients awakened but I digress

material bloat needs to die
it shouldn't be exclaimed anyways
because nobody actually pinged them with the issues. there was only one ping about material bloat which is not a reason to invalidate the suggestion.
the reaction indicates that they were notified why it was invalid
Marianas Essence
The very depths of the ocean emenate from this essence
emanate?
Being late to #suggestions-discussion be like
haha ech
that's why you should check up on it before blindly reacting to stuff :)
I'm too tired but I removed it now
@half kayak can you focus less on the specifics of and just keep it about a combination of those materials?
ye
@half kayak So the issue with your suggestion is that the Abyssal Bar and Omega Blue Bar by extension is too specific. I recommend reading the pins for the suggestion outlines and more in depth explanation on what a specific item is.
by specifics they mean a name, stats, etc.
It’s bad feedback ~~Bc it’s from a sleep deprived me
~~
then

now that’s something i’d like as an emote
No nitro be like


:DECOMPILED:

fuck i need nitro
that was
wha
6 seconds
It's from a different server
so is mine
watch me
mine is in Hage Disc
ok
make a :DECOMPILED: sugg
it’s feedzuh’s fault for being a nitro addict
lies
Been meaning to ask
GOD DAMMIT PHILO
you wanted a suggestion alright
Why is something that's named after something stealthy drop from a mage?
FUCKING HELL
(talking about Shinobi Blade dropping from Dark Casters)
philo y e s
(why)
because the dungeon is a mess

that suggestion is gonna be murdered faster than a calamity style sprite in terramain
you better have a good reason saying this is not a meme suggestion
Emote suggs need any reasons?
what the hell does it contribute?
You can't be serious with this emote sugg
that is true
what happened that made terramain denizens hate calam style sprites?
I'm sorry what?
why is this even a suggestion
what the uck
This is like beyond dumb
Philo wants strength
it takes
well he's not getting it
so much power to sugg that
takes little power to delete it
for something thats getting denied
I hate to break it to you but if that gets enough stars, I'm breaking protocol and vetoing that
wait Ben you told me indirectly to remove my ! but you put your own, smh
lol
haha
Contests kinda brunge
Please keep suggested emotes within reason instead of a picture of your face.
cool, if anything, I made you say that 
what the fuck happened/is happening in here
Philo attempted to gain strength
:DECOMPILED:
And is currently failing
this is why samsmirk is superior
emote contests are usually in art and are about making emotes rather than just taking some random picture and shitting them into sugg posting
cringe
Philo posted his face and tried to get it as an emote
Ben said that this channel should stay on topic, I brought that topic
:hackerman: philo
oh wow that's stupid
lol
like stupider-than-normal-sugma-disc stupid
Posting awful suggestions is the wrong way to go back on topic.
Custom emotes never conveyed things as good as ori ones
not to be rude but in general it’s not a fantastic idea to show your face to absolute strangers
especially one framed like that, it looks like a facebook profile picture someone could reverse image search
back to why samsmirk is a fantastic emote suggestion
Save for like
ok no ill leave


samsmirk is good I guess

i mean, its a smirk, its perfect

:samsmirk:
also hmm
wasn't the previous emote poll bad or smth?
id use it
how was it bad?
cuz I remember people saying that it didn't go well
who?
People also whine about missing heart rapier Philo
I'll see if I can find it
The last emote contest went pretty well tbh. I wouldn't call it bad.
last and only I should say
Personally, I’m just tired of seeing emote suggs in posting. Just kinda wastes space imo
#suggestions-discussion message this
but I guess Iban is in the minority on this
Since they’re practically always gonna go through
not always, peepo didn't go through 
simply do not star them
peepo is dumb
yes
funny green frog
6
ban peepo emotes in general

i personally dislike peepoweird due to some dumb shit regarding the emote that happened in another server i used to be in
what happened?
is it related to sugg discussion?
i’m of the opinion that the emotes for a server dedicated to a specific media emotes should largely, if not exclusively, consist of emotes using that media
^
Byech, emote posts take up space in voting that could go to actual suggestions to the mod and not just haha emote go brrrrr
contest bad.
Yes, but they’re also very common and go through without any hesitation most of the time.
omw to add 10 or so emotes that people NEVER use 🙂
the first ever suggestion on the new system I should stop calling it new it's now almost a year old was an emote sugg
Was approved via mod abuse iirc
regarding this, if they don’t want to have undeletable emotes they could simply make it a condition of the contest that “your emote is added for x amount of time”, 6 months or so
wtf emote has an expiry date
well, the difference is that art also has way less emote slots
ctp is level 1, art is level 2, main is level 3
Considering calamity art emotes aren’t what’s being suggested most of the time, I think it’s fine for a bunch of those types of emotes to be received for a while and thrown into poll
is superior to 
😔 is superior to 
is superior to 
is superior to
(though this one I just don't have the exact emote to compare)
is at least comparable to 
I feel like filling all the emote slots at once would also be bad in case much later you want to add some.. but yknow, out of slots and some people don't want them deleted
just don't do it via a strawpoll pls
(
is pretty good imo)
Aqua SG did I say all emote slots in my sugg
PensiveCore is better than pensive
far better
^
is pog
Yes
no you didn't, but you also kinda suggested getting emote suggestions out of voting
Time to crucify Feedzuh for his crimes
ok ok heres the problem first though, which emotes are you gonna dd into a poll anyways, thing is everyone is always gonna want something else and you cant please everyone which is why emote suggs staying as a sugg is good because it means atleast a notable amount of the voting community (im callin it that) reached a unanimous decisione
WRONG
Also you did not mention CalWheeze
that's not a valid justification
I thought you'd go with junko ruffles but that works
I generally find that pensive is the only good default emote, along with like, flushed
default emotes will always be more powerful
is superior to
correct
they came first
flushed is pog yes
Flushed is good
sunglasses and weary :D
For a while at least. Because every other day it feels like a new emote is being suggested, taking up space for actual suggestions.
Oh yeah they can be somewhat good too
the real problem here is that emote suggs take up like half a screen or more on average
also lmao
a sugg against emote suggs which is immediately followed by an emote sugg
👏
trollled!
^^^^^
This

👏
moreover, the new emotes being suggested are shit like “add mgrr stuff because mgrr”

Yes that emote sucks ass
It's just 
mfw references for the sake of references are legal with emotes
nothing wrong with people saying add mgrr because mgrr, after all they're just sugg'ing

it's like that time when we had 8 consecutive Abyss suggs
samsmirk actually has reasoning

I kinda want to suggest DoGbyeah but know I shouldn't
its a different story when they're accepted, because it means people actually reached a decisione to add them
ah yes, the disaster me and demik brought upon posting
Yes sam smrik has a different emotion

Demik posted first iirc
If emote suggs didn’t take up half a fuckin screen I wouldn’t complain as much.
byeah uh
it'd be nice if, as a suggestions commoner, it weren't pitifully easy to get immediately spammed out of existence by an emote sugg
why are you complainin about a half a second scrolling doe

A separate channel for emote suggs maybe
most people don't spend that much time gazing at suggs, Tiki
^
because it contributes nothing
it's a time-to-exposure ratio deal
Emote suggs are almost always approved, but drain the life out of surrounding suggs
I mean it contribues more than my sugg†, but that's a pretty fucking low bar
as it stands, the amount of exposure a sugg will receive is already inversely proportional to two factors: the amount of time it has been in voting, and the amount of time you have to spend scrolling up to find it
I feel like Ben's gonna stab me after this but we'll see
ech
while an emote sugg doesn't increase the first parameter, it greatly increases the second parameter on account of the OG images for most emotes being enormous
this is also why people unanimously agreed to limit my power
lol
limit your spam more like
yes
okay but like he's right
Listen. That's my argument, thank you for coming to my podcast
this ratio is the exact reason the sugg limit happened
oh okay. two emote suggs
fucking hell lauren
thank you laruen
an anti-emote sugg immediately followed by two emote suggs
letsgoooo 2hu emotes

sometimes you must first break a system to fix it
touhou invasion it seems
lock the doors
The fuck you want lauren
we have 2hu reference in cal, time to bring it to the server
we all know theres zero chance of a emote thats not cirno or sakuya getting in but we can dream
Grab a photoviscerator now
quick someone suggest a ZUN emote
NO
Me omw to sugg 

I crave death to all who sugg emotes
okay in all reality though, junkonom is very cute, thanks for listening and goodnight
We already have a shit ton of cute emotes
it's not the night yet smh
oh god why is it emote hell now
Lauren
yes it is cute
GOD
SAMSMIRK IS GETTING CONSUMED
Lauren too?
NOOOOO
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
samsmirk has like a 5 hour buffer once it's pushed to voting tho
Let's fucking gooooo
to be on the front page
I think my point about emotes taking up space in suggestion channels has been made clearer by this now
oh what
push it out now with mod aboose 
i am
unless it's pushed up by manual approval
Emote suggs deserve their own channel
ping every staff until they do it 
thanks for listening to my podcast
Die.
alright well anywho
Pog
POG
it's too early in the morning for me to figure out what I want to suggest today
inb4 amber starts talking through mod mail
Suggest banning emote suggs
and I can't exactly give extensive feedback to emote suggs so my only other purpose here is a moot point rn
and scares the shit out of me
so
goodby e
resugg the evil islands removal sugg
lmao
do you really think that's going to work
Suggest banning emote suggs
no
YES
the last time I posted that sugg I didn't get anywhere near the amount of stars I'd need
you have to remember, most people hate having muh qualtee of liif removed
(that wasn't supposed to have two i's but you know what it's funnier like that so I won't change it)
lmao



anyway point is nobody's going to star a suggestion to nuke the evil islands
(i will)
why? because evil islands are a massive point of QoL
I will they're of no use to me anyway
what is wrong with you people
then do the opposite and suggest an expansion on the idea of evil islands 
byeah tbh i myself dont see their purpose at all tbh
it's like suggesting to tone down or remove the free ores in planetoids (which, amusingly, I also would want to do if this weren't the case)
it's not gonna clear voting. it just won't
for fuck's [[tgc:sake]]
Emote suggestions go brrr
I hate emotes.
ok at this point
love being able to skip to gold/plat the second i find ropes
why are there 4 emote suggs
oh for fuck's sake--
i don't give 2 shits about ore planetoids
cuz funny emote suggs
after a sugg to remove emote suggs
omw to suggest having emote suggestions have a higher star limit then 140
ARE YOU FUCKING
@dapper coral ban emotes pls
yes
I think samsmirk is fine
PHILO, WHAT HAVE YOU DONE?
ffs
yes sam smrik is good
oh ffs it was me wh started this, wasn't it?
Oh fuck oh no the emote wars have begun
guys, at this point wed need to delete emote bloat rather the material bloat 
yeah alright I'm takin' a personal day fuck this
why are there so many emote suggs

🛫
See ya

thomas has left us alone
This is why we need to kill emote suggs
yes both are good
imagine being a touhou nerd
imagine hating on touhou
shut
imagine caring about touhou
Welcome to hell Ian
ban ban ban
Ian comes back to 4 emote suggs in a day
Ian, I made a mistake
pog

When I get to my PC I'll suggest another emote
I made a mistake 
:fear:
DO NOT
pog
god we don't need more
absolutely not
do it so all emotes die out.
1 blocked message
live or die together

that was already the choice via my sugg before all of you crawled out of the woodworks
Honestly thought
yeah
yes
How would ya'll feel about limiting emote suggestions to one day a week so that they don't push up suggs as much as they do now
That would be good
that's actually a good idea
@hot zephyr please dont do
i didnt think everyone had one the day i deiced to suggest cirno sip
just give them their own channel or some shit
I mean, I did tell ruff that today was a bad day for Cirno sip
emotes need a fat reevaluation in terms of how they're added
3 in one day is crazy enough
which is continuously more apparent
^^^^^^^^^^^^^
as we keep dealing with them
#emote_suggestions_voting
#emote_suggestions_posting
#emote_suggeations_discussion
^
^
could actually work
channel bloat channel bloat
I hate this shit
so we don't bloat suggs
what the fuck I was joking
I personally would accept anything that permanently kills emote suggs
also die
just transform vc3 into emote sugg channel
dont you dare destroy ians child
this is the playerbase that bawled over heart rapier's removal, it's not gonna do that 
all emotes must be verbally approved by fab when he is drunk in vc
nooo not the monlith channel
what the fuck

does that go off
no
depends how philo @
Philo is just trying to be annoying.
^
so nothing new

a classic
Yep
Although in my opinion, the best option is just to limit the amount of emote suggestions, like a week was suggested.
only admins can role ping iirc
Getting rid of them all is a bad move.
if it pinged, I would've been dead already
i mean
idea: one emote suggestion a month
imo, 140 is too less for emotes, because lets be honest people just star emotes for literal no reason other then picture funnee
emotes shouldn't go through suggs imo
170
^^^
i think i said this a bi before
or just don't instantly implement them
170
for that you have to ping Rover
fundamentally different from other suggestion types. There's actual debate to other suggestions (most of the time). Meanwhile emotes go brrrr
^
^^^
We need some
action
which imo is kinda bleh
emotes are submitted to, like, a bot or something, which sends a batch to admins, and then on weekends they have a vote from a curated list
Emotes are just too different to belong in #suggestions-voting imo
me logging in at 12:01 AM CST to suggest the emote of the month 
making it either actually need feedback from the people who actually have a say, or just make it have a bigger star requirement
die
whos gonna suggest?
Die Fiend!
a bigger waste of time than suggestions themselves 
byeah, if this continues, its gonna be ridiculous
emote suggs should be limited by a lot
limiting them will still make them pass, just in time stops
Emotes don't belong in #suggestions-voting , they waste too much space, and are fundamentally different to normal suggestions.
the require ment imo is too low, and it just passes straight up when they have the 140 stars
so that's why we get #emote-posting
They practically always pass, and are insta-implemented.
limit emotes by a month
ive litterly not seen an emote not pass in my time on the server tbh (which isnt alot but still lol)
same with a month
just longer delay
peepo weird
is like the famous posterchild of "emote suggs can fail" but that one is just a dunce
oh yeah i forgot it exists
we could also limit multiple suggs of the same emote cough cough peepoweird
nvm my second point
thing is with sugged emotes
all moderators already know that they're gonna be implemented
so it starts looking like russian politics: push everything through, but make it look like you're following the rules
peepo weird resuggs have died down at least
yeah true
that's good
At that point just deliver it to dev directly tbfh
epic
which is why i think just going to the root and making them need a bigger requirement can somehow fix it a bit
cough cough feelscungus
what would be that bigger requirement?
some people here threw the number 170 around
inb4 ballfart gets added
no idea why
300
I don't think that would solve the problem tbh.
i was wondering if emotes could actually get sugg banned and turns out its true!
Personally, I think the higher requirement should be 250
but i think 170 and up is way more reasonable then the instantanious 140
yeah
200 is great tbh
if you're gonna raise stuff
250 is way too much i think
make it consistent
an emote sugg should have to try just as hard as any other sugg if they wanna take up that much fuckin' space
server suggs sohuld always stay below cal suggs because less people care about the server than the mod itself maybe
so yeah, just make it 200
welcome back to the hell scape that is #emote-discussion
oo
good luck

iirc the req for server suggs was lowered just because they wanted to get ← not the official explanation
but make it look like everybody wanted it
Since we have 85k members and about 30k online at avg, make emote suggs needing 1000 stars

with any consistency in your luck though, it's prolly going to be immediately followed by a emote sugg
tbh as long as it makes emote suggestions not immediately fucking pass im 100% starring it ngl
oh
now watch as some slick motherfucker immediately comes in with an emote sugg and does nothing but prove my earlier point
its a suprise to be welcome

did you really think that he was gonna sugg smth about emote suggs?
i dont think removing them is good, but yeah theres way to much
sadly i raised expectations tbh
unfortunately I don't really have emote sugg suggs in my to-dos
ain't nobody got time to sugg about that, I've got bigger fish to fry
Thomas on a roll recently making suggestions that slow down preboss 
but Thomas , muh free ore
I do not care
it's so absurd
I do not care either
it's cool and risky in death mode
ok that is a good suggestion
play the game like vanilla players do for 5 minutes
free ore is good though


i never understood why theres so many
If anything, I used it solely for alternates
byeah, there's too much
I would play vanilla then Thomas 
toning them down is a good idea
ascend
Bububububu mods
but not just removing it
not remove, but tone down is what id prefer tbh

but its up to them ofc
nobody cares, Calamity has this long-standing trend of "pre-boss is a myth and you should not like it or deal with it, here's 500 ways to skip it"
and up to people to star this and not the haha funnee image go emote
"You know what this mod needs! More grinding!"
My friends hate using vanilla gear in modded playthroughs
I haven't heard of that mod, what does it do?
Pre boss is shit

even when the vanilla gear is better
well yeah because Calamity doesn't add anything to actually do
arsenal labs are worthless until after Hive Mind/Perfs
besides kill wulfrum shit
anyways
preboss just sucks so much and is the worst part of any playthrough, it is such a monumental pain in the ASS to walk at base walking speed with shitty armor and weapons trying to cheese cnidarions and hope it doesn’t telefrag you
wulfrum

wulfrum enemies are real cool for the 5 seconds they matter
Wulfrum isn't exploration it's literally shitting on a few enemies and then making like Silver-tier+ gear immediately
Free dynamite is useful
Move T1 Arsenal to pre-boss 
draedon labs
though if that sugg DOES pass, I will never see veinmine asmr again on planetoids
I already explained that Draedon labs are worthless pre-boss
Planetoid ores are great because mining for ores earlygame is like chewing on a brick
I already said, free dynamite can be found in the lab chests
oh yes, shit. that's the point
download veinminer
Veinminer momentum
genuinely
how is anyone’s game experience harmed by skipping to gold-tier armor and pickaxe when that’s the shittiest part of the game
fair
"Download 361772546 QoL mods and the portion of the gane becomes more tolerable!"
it isn't, because there's nothing to fucking do
the fact of the matter is that Calamity physically cannot add anything interesting to the pre-boss segment of the game because it's too fucking easy and too heavily encouraged to skip it
Calamity players really like progressing at 5000000000 bosses a minute
haha ech
everyone i know who doesn’t like terraria says it’s because it takes genuinely like 4 hours of mining to get to the part where it’s actually good
do you thik Draedon labs are worthless pre-boss just because?
no it's because it's impossible to add anything interesting to the first like 3 tiers of Calamity
The mod is already huge, anything to mitigate the bad parts of Vanilla is a good thing
Then make the 4 hours actually interesting? That's an option
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