#suggestions-discussion

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swift wharf
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not really

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some summoner helms have >5 defense

coarse bronze
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spider armor is pre hm?

worn jungle
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Thats what makes it suck

swift wharf
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melee sets usually have more defense than other classes

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so

worn jungle
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Same with stardust armor

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38 Defence

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Spider only have a low 20

hot zephyr
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Buff the spooktacular armor

atomic yoke
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It would be cool a summoner buff that makes summons shot projectiles since in post moonlord some of them dont shot projectiles

coarse bronze
worn jungle
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18 defense Increase from start of hardmode to early post-moon lord

coarse bronze
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move spider armor to pre hm

hot zephyr
worn jungle
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The enemy that drops the fangs too make it are hardmode enemys

hot zephyr
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@mighty knot Unique enemies will be coming to post-ml events in the future

gray nebula
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melon your suggs are cool but it also looks like youre trying to get upvotes but thing is im not sure posting 2 massive walls of text one next to another will help with people actually wanting to read them

hot zephyr
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both suggestions can be condensed

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No need to put examples for the second; that's up to the devs

swift wharf
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i dont think those are examples

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i mean for adding stuff

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just how the enemies work

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fighter ai

hot zephyr
dapper coral
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the devs already know how they work normally, you don't need to reiterate it

worn jungle
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I still think summoner needs some drinks from drunk Princess

swift wharf
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eh, fair i thought he was talking about the enemy ai

hot zephyr
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You also don't need two paragraphs to convey the point that AS needs an audio queue

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"Attack too unpredictable, needs audio queue"

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Bam

coarse bronze
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Short and simple

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good suggestion

dapper coral
coarse bronze
hot zephyr
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For like 75% of all suggs, they don't need to be longer than 4-5 sentences

coarse bronze
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This is a good suggestion

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but

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l o n g

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but anyways

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Spider armor definitely needs a defense buff

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the fathom swarmer armor is a big jump in defense compared to spider armor

hot zephyr
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Flashback to when Spider and Fathom were on the same tier

worn jungle
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Yes

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I remember that

radiant meadow
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okay, I thought planty mush was locked behind pickaxe axe so shut

worn jungle
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yes

pine star
atomic yoke
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Maybe summoners can have a backup weapon that deals summoner damage so summoners would not be Running around and i know they can use debuff weapons with no problem

summer sentinel
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there are plans to change the postml buffed events I believe already. It will just happen further into the future and no, planty mush is like, no pickaxe requirement? I think

pine star
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Yeah

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Planty Mush can be mined with a copper pick

coarse bronze
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yeah no required pickaxe power

unreal viper
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Ben said that he thought that past tense

crystal iron
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avoid being caught in the spin or you'll get caught in it

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šŸ¤”

radiant meadow
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I completely forgot it can be fished up any time anyways.

unreal viper
atomic yoke
summer sentinel
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fishing for planty mush... that's an interesting way to spend your time

pine star
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Very interesting

worn jungle
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Amusing, I fished for only planty mush for 5 hours

crude geode
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mfw summoners have the easiest to acquire, best armors in early hardmode and people still want a buff to it bruh

tawny garden
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Buffs are always wanted

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And people will always make up reasons for buffing smth

crude geode
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Just don’t fight provi near the cultists HDfailure

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You can also dig out the floor of the dungeon to stop them from spawning @hardy dock

whole sedge
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An easy fix for this is just don't fight provi like 4 feet away from the dungeon

hardy dock
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I don't have a choice when my Hallow is right next to the Dungeon

whole sedge
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fighting providence in the underworld instead of the hallow

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clemtaminator

hardy dock
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I do that, but you have to fight her in the Hallow eventually

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It's honestly just really annoying

crude geode
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Clemtaminator is annoying??

whole sedge
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clemtaminator literally only takes like a second to use especially when you're post-ml then you can have a massive hallowed area to fight her HDfailure

crystal iron
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Seems kinda pointless to me since that's a rare occasion probably and there's a few solutions for it anyway

hardy dock
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Simply despawing the Cultists during bossfights is pretty simple

whole sedge
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Which you can already do ingame

crystal iron
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U can just kill them and teleport back home to get rid of them

crude geode
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^

whole sedge
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There's already so many ways to fix this "problem" you have yet it seems more like an issue of laziness to me

crude geode
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^

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@dapper coral Can you exclaim the most recent sugg? There’s already a multitude of solutions to the problem brought up by this.

dapper coral
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yea

crude geode
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ty BirbLove

tawny garden
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Uhhh

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I don't think that's a justified ā—

hot zephyr
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Can't you just mine two blocks to keep cultists from spawning

tawny garden
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Yes, there are ways to solve the problem, but that doesn't make the suggestion invalid

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You can, yeah

dapper coral
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it kind of does though
because the solutions are super easy to come by

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there are already systems in place to prevent the need to fight provi near the dungeon in the first place

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so there's no point in trying to fix the situation that shouldn't happen if the player utilizes what's given to them

whole sedge
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Yeah there's already at least four solutions I could think of off the top of my head that are painfully easy to do so adding another seems really unnecessary and pointless to me

hardy dock
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I only used Providence as an example

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In fights that carry you across the world, like ML or DoG avoiding a big chunk of land like that just isn't viable

crude geode
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You know where LC is, build your arena for DoG away from him.

whole sedge
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(don't cultist already not spawn when Moonlord is alive also?)

crude geode
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You don’t need the entire world for dog.

whole sedge
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And yeah for DoG I usually also built my platform pretty high up so I can have the most space and cultists are on ground level also

crude geode
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Also, you can literally mine a few blocks to prevent them from spawning. just do that.

tawny garden
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Well
I don't see the sugg being implemented

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Cause it would just take programmers' time which could be spent on smth else

dapper coral
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...where did my exclam go

tawny garden
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LOL

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gone. Reduced to atoms

dapper coral
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i'll put it back but uh

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okay then

crude geode
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Yeah that’s funky

dapper coral
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either an admin/rover is lurking or discord is pisscord

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oh well

hot zephyr
tawny garden
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I was just saying that it isn't invalid per sugg rules, but it's not in the sugg rules because nobody to my knowledge has suggested a solution to a problem that can already be solved

dapper coral
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correct

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because they all get removed before they go to voting

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because they're already fixable

tawny garden
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Also

tawny garden
dapper coral
tawny garden
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It's gone again

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Wh

dapper coral
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still there for me

whole sedge
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It just disappeared for me and I am having issues with reactions in other discords so i feel like discord is being bad again

dapper coral
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pisscord it is

radiant meadow
tawny garden
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arethereanygoddamnbosses

radiant meadow
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that's not even the name of the bool smh

tawny garden
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ah, yeah, it's not, god isn't there

summer sentinel
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I'd personally ! the suggestion just because you can tp away to despawn the cultist and that's just that, while it can be annoying they spawn during a boss fight, there are a multitude of ways to force despawn lc

tawny garden
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the exclamation still isn't there

radiant meadow
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that bool also just calls for another bool

summer sentinel
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yeah I was about to add it but I had to read the conversation here, as in skim it, to see what had transpired

radiant meadow
summer sentinel
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awesome

tawny garden
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good

radiant meadow
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I don't think tp-ing away to despawn the cultist should be the solution though.

tawny garden
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:poopcord:

radiant meadow
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especially if someone like Prov is involved to fuck you over with Holy Inferno

tawny garden
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the solution is to pre-make 4 notches in the floor

summer sentinel
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I had that thought too but, forcing to despawn the LC just during boss fights feels a bit, unneeded. doesn't just seem warranted and if they are an issue, kill them, spawn the pillars, boss zen the pillars ->win

radiant meadow
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I don't think forcing cultists to despawn is the solution either.

radiant meadow
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When you can just make them not take damage

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and avoid shenanigans altogether

tawny garden
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another problem that I just thought of
what if you actually want to fight the cultist and DoG at the same time

radiant meadow
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then use a tablet

crude geode
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^

tawny garden
summer sentinel
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yeah Ben that's what I mean by: kill them and boss zen the pillars echthinkbut you ignored it

radiant meadow
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I don't get how killing equates to not killing but sure.

summer sentinel
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what? no, I mean, you kill the cultists and the problem is solved when you summon a boss where LC can't spawn during it because pillars, that

radiant meadow
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I don't think forcing your world to go through a shit event is a good solution.

summer sentinel
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I don't think writing something specifically to to force despawn cultists during a boss fight is the best solution either

radiant meadow
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It isn't

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and that's what I said

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I think forcing the cultists to despawn, forcing the player to make LC despawn, or forcing the player to set up a shit event are all bad solutions.

crude geode
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I don’t think I’ve ever had this occurrence tbfh.

radiant meadow
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If your hallow arena is set up near the dungeon, it could happen

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cdmp ahem

summer sentinel
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yeah I, was just about to mention it

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cdmp was the first moment in afaik ever that I can recall where LC spawned during a boss fight and it was specifically night provi too

tawny garden
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I remember that Merg had this problem in his Calamity playthrough

radiant meadow
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I agree it's a problem, but all the solutions I've heard others propose don't seem that good to me.

crude geode
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Clemteminator exists. And at that point, if you’re actively making an arena near the dungeon, you should know what you’re getting into.

tawny garden
radiant meadow
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I don't think having players needing to know cultist spawning mechanics to abuse the system is a good idea.

crude geode
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I don’t think cultists need to spawn post ml

tawny garden
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but but
what if you wanna do a shitty event

crude geode
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Eidolon ya let

tawny garden
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ah, tablet

radiant meadow
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the events are still the best for farming lots of fragments tbh

crude geode
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Ah yes, better than Astrum Deus ech

summer sentinel
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the best solution may just be no solution then because the other options aren't the most desirable

radiant meadow
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Astrum Deus doesn't drop as much as abusing star cells or alien hornets or something

tawny garden
radiant meadow
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or deep frying a million brain sucklers

crude geode
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Hm it’s like that’s what I was suggesting thonk

radiant meadow
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I don't think preventing cultists from spawning altogether is the best course of action.

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It seems very unintuitive to any newcomers to the mod.

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And there will be bug reports on where tf are the cultists.

crude geode
radiant meadow
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That doesn't mean the problem should be exasperated.

hot zephyr
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Could the solution be to simply make the summoning animation for LC not happen if the dungeon mobs are killed during a boss fight?

radiant meadow
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I think that would be fine or just let them not take damage at all during a boss fight.

hot zephyr
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Ie, you're fighting DoG and the archers die. Since DoG is already present, the LC summon animation doesn't play and the boss doesn't arrive

coarse bronze
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legendries are fine as they are in my opinion

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And Fabsol said something about changing how they are obtained

stiff karma
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do you guys think the Cosmic Guardians (in the DoG fight) should have minimap icons of their own? i feel like it'd make the fight a lot more manageable, only really providing a difference for people with lower resolutions.

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i personally never use the minimap for most post-ml content because it obstructs the final accessory slot, except for DoG

summer sentinel
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I think they can get killed quickly and easily enough they don't need a map icon as they are more of distractors in the DoG fight than a more defined phase like the sentinel phase

stiff karma
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and even then i might get blindsided by a guardian

whole sedge
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Eh, usually when they appear they get shredded pretty much instantly by most weapons so I don't really feel like it's necessary

golden narwhal
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i mean, so do the guardians in provi's fight, and they're getting one (don't use this reasoning)

summer sentinel
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the guardian phase in provi fight feels more like sentinel phase in DoG than it does the cosmic guardians imo

golden narwhal
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Tru

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i just want the map icons because I'm part of the smol resolution gang DoGCri

radiant meadow
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Belching Saxophone doesn't mess with pitch. It just plays randomly from a group of different sax sounds.

tawny garden
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Being able to play never gonna to give you up on a magical saxophone is honestly a dream of mine
deepthonk

ashen warren
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fuck you

tawny garden
pine star
modern arrow
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Aw my modifiers suggestion stopped at 170 MegaDead

sharp prism
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i agree

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makes sense

radiant meadow
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you're forgetting to mention that you only needed mass quantities of bottles because it was 20 player mp

summer sentinel
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It's still qol regardless echsad

unreal viper
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is qol always good tho

radiant meadow
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normal players don't make 200 each of rage, wrath, wormhole, shadow, magic power, mana regen, ironskin, endurance, regen, crumbling, soaring, and bounding potions

sharp prism
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wait

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you dont do that

radiant meadow
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exactly

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you don't

sharp prism
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no

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i do

whole sedge
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but what if we do

radiant meadow
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I don't see the problem as a lack of glass, but a bunch of potion addicts who can't get enough of it.

whole sedge
radiant meadow
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Lauren's experience is from multiplayer with 20 people where they were creating like 500-1000 of each potion.

sharp prism
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some of us dont want to destroy our worlds

radiant meadow
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then make a new one

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Glass is not hard to get.

sharp prism
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i do

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but i dont wanna do that

radiant meadow
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Right

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you want your bottles to be handed to you on a silver platter

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my bad

whole sedge
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Isn't there already stuff in calamity for the purpose of not having to make a new world anyways

sharp prism
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we need a better sad emote

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^

radiant meadow
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except you only need to make a new world

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if you make like 5000 potions for no reason

long vault
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just get whatever mod adds the architect npc, you can buy sand or glass off him directly

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ĀÆ_(惄)_/ĀÆ

whole sedge
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Hey I only make 5 thousand potions because i suck and end up dying with the effects a ton foxdance

long vault
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is calamity the mod that makes it so if you have 4000 ammo it doesn't consume the ammo?

hot zephyr
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@summer sentinel Antlions act as a somewhat slow but reliable way of generating new sand

long vault
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bummer

radiant meadow
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Calamity will likely never add infinite ammo.

summer sentinel
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you can say the same thing for desert scourge but it...takes a bit too long

long vault
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was gonna suggest just do a similar thing for potions if it was calamity

sharp prism
radiant meadow
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Fargo's Mutant Mod already has potions giving buffs unlimitedly

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as does luiafk

summer sentinel
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Ben they aren't supposed to know about the sand shortage in the specific 20 player scenario shh

radiant meadow
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I'm just enlightening them

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that y

summer sentinel
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I'm taking that light, thank u

radiant meadow
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y'all are potion addicts

long vault
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yes

hot zephyr
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so much drama in the CDMP, it's hard to be ia double-n D

radiant meadow
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the drama is that they eat too much glass

sharp prism
radiant meadow
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they're all having indigestion

sharp prism
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anyways back to the sugg

long vault
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there's nothing i enjoy more than coming home after a long day of work than drinking a warmth potion and reading a book by the window as i listen to the rain

radiant meadow
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where do you think the bottle goes after you drink a potion

sharp prism
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the trashcan

hot zephyr
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drake and josh door meme but it's spider and sand

sharp prism
long vault
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terraria implies you use potions by smashing them on your body confirmed

crystal iron
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That just proves the terraria is 2d Minecraft theory

long vault
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suggestion to replace potion drink sound with glass smashing sound

sharp prism
long vault
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wait i thought minecraft was 3d terraria

crystal iron
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minecraft is a terraria demo

long vault
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anyway back to discussion

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why are a massive chunk of suggestions basically just "nerf scal"

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fight is meant to be hard?

unreal viper
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what

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is that relevant?

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I see, it is.

long vault
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they're posted in suggestions

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this is suggestions discussion

unreal viper
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There is a difference between hard an unfair here.

whole sedge
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Yeah, hard good unfair bad

crystal iron
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I mean,not to brag or anything but scal is a bit easy for me personally

unreal viper
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shut taxevasion

long vault
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"Heavily slow down Brimstone Monsters during S-Cal's Bullet Hell 5."

there's nothing unfair about that tho?

unreal viper
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the sugg describes how it creates an unfair situation, does it not?

long vault
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not really it just says that the bullet hell encourages going slow

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a subjective opinion

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I'd argue the brimstone monters are there so you CAN'T be slow

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and so they are doing their job fantastically

hot zephyr
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If the suggestion isn't breaking any rules, and has the interest to get stars, who cares what the subject is.

ashen warren
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it still can be discussed

long vault
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^

hot zephyr
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Yeah, discussed on how to improve the suggestion instead of just shooting it down

long vault
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I don't think it can be improved, I think it's entirely not needed

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It's not suggestion feedback it's suggestion discussion

radiant meadow
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idk, I tried scal the other day and the moons kinda went nyoooom on my ass

hot zephyr
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I mean, like the main purpose for this channel is to help improve suggestions or provide actual critiques other than "scal hard, no nerf pls"

ashen warren
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I honestly feel like they're perfect now, although I might be a bit biased

hot zephyr
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Have they been changed recently?

ashen warren
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my only problem with like, BH5 is the fading shit

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they were nerfed

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moons don't stack on top of each other anymore in death

hot zephyr
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Ah that

ashen warren
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and in revengeance they got speed reduction or smth

hot zephyr
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That's the last change?

ashen warren
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regarding moons, yeah I think so

hot zephyr
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Last time I fought scal, I thought they were alright but It's been a hot minute so I'm not the best example

long vault
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I think the fact that the mechanic exists to make the player hurry up is antithetical to the idea that you should be allowed to take it slow

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that's all

hot zephyr
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From what I can infer, the moons are meant to keep the player moving; I can see where the feedback comes from when instead of dodging projectiles, your main focus becomes not getting gibbed by moon contact damage.

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I think there's a balance between keeping the player moving throughout the arena while also not having the primary focus of the fight shifting from dodging projectiles to fearing Hage orbs

long vault
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I think the orbs spawn before BH5 so you have to keep moving in BH5

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if it wasn't intended to deal with both mechanics at once they'd probably spawn after

crystal iron
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For the latest Sugg
I feel like, since the problem is not wanting to ruin your dessert, some npc should just sell sand

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If this ever gets implemented

hot zephyr
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Maybe Amidias can sell sand if he lives in the desert?

crystal iron
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Oh ye

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Maybe after hardmode too, cuz in pre hardmode there isn't many potions you can make so you wouldn't ruin your desert, and that would make amidas sell more items in hm cuz iirc be doesn't sell anything new

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Just maybe

hot zephyr
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Another idea

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The Underground Desert is mostly composed of Sandstone Blocks, which unlike sand/hardened sand cannot be used to create glass

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Allowing Sandstone blocks to be smelted into glass means that there's more glass available in a world.

sharp prism
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thats true

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THATS SO TRUE

hot zephyr
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Is the Astral Infection even known about by anyone before it crashes into the world? Like in-lore?

dapper coral
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i mean

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aureus lore is based on draedon making a mech that got corrupted by the astral

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so yes, assumedly

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also because DoG ate deus so now he chillin in the astral

hot zephyr
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So then wouldn't it make more sense to tie astral foreshadowing to Draedon labs instead?

worldly forum
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Good idea

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i will add that!

hot zephyr
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I think you should split the suggestion into two

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One asking for Astral drops to be in more recipes, one asking for foreshadowing to the biome

dapper coral
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also

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wdym that astral bars are focused on mage stuff

mighty knot
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@worldly forum you can use shift + enter to make a new line instead of spamming a bunch of spaces

dapper coral
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there are precisely 2 things that are mage related that you can make with astral bars
starcore and astral staff

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and yeah do that too

worldly forum
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After moon lord, they are pretty much just used in mage upgrades. I believe at least.

dapper coral
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that is false

worldly forum
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oh, ok

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thx

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i will remove that

hot zephyr
worldly forum
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yeah

dapper coral
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the upgrades they make are:
devastation (melee)
radiant star (rogue)
solstice claymore (melee)
terratomere (melee)

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there is actually no mage-related upgrade with astral bars

worldly forum
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Oh, ok

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thanks for telling me

cobalt pewter
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I personally still thinks that astral is just

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There

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Ye

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I mean not as bad as plague which just popped out onto the jungle post golem outta nowhere

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Plague isn't even a biome

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hnnnng

worldly forum
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Yeah

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that is exactly what i think should be changed

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Plague also has a bit of foreshadowing.

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Still probably not something most players would notice though...

hot zephyr
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Did the mod that adds the plague biome get discontinued? I think it did?

radiant meadow
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yeah

hot zephyr
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rip

cobalt pewter
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rip

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Byeah

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I personally would rather have the plague mobs gradually rolled out from the start of HM

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While locking post golem, pre pbg stuff (like plague reaper) to post golem still

long vault
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roll out plague mobs after the player enters the jungle research lab

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:hehe:

cobalt pewter
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Then you can also effectively allow PBG to have non-linearity

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She's the only HM boss (aside from ML) that can't be done this way

crude geode
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non-linearity AmidiasPog

coarse bronze
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alchemest NPC

crude geode
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Not everyone wants to use AlchNPC

coarse bronze
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l i t e

cobalt pewter
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Byeah

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Recipes for shrines items sound pogger

crude geode
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not everyone wants to use AlchNPC lite

coarse bronze
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Sandgun

cobalt pewter
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The artificial rarity is just ech

coarse bronze
crude geode
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Tbh isn’t the point of their power them being rare?

coarse bronze
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yeah

long vault
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they're not even powerful tho

coarse bronze
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but then there is trinket of chi

dapper coral
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they're p good though

crude geode
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Such as Onyx Excavator just completely negating the need to get mining accessories?

dapper coral
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especially onyx key, luxors (which is honestly not rare enough for what it is) and unstable prism

long vault
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onyx key doesn't dig vertically

dapper coral
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fungal symbiote also

crude geode
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I wouldn’t mind if Luxor’s and Trinket of Chi were swapped tbfh

dapper coral
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okay so big whoop, you mine everything horizontally
it's not a big change

long vault
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luxors i have never seen once in a legitimate playthrough and i explore tf out of the underground desert

crude geode
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I have seen it multiple times ĀÆ_(惄)_/ĀÆ

long vault
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lucky you then

dapper coral
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then you are extremely unlucky, sir

cobalt pewter
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Trinket of Chi sucks balls
Onyx is cool, but in no way mega powerful imo
Luxor is meh now
Tundra Leash is meh
Symbiote god

crude geode
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Trinket of Chi makes Deep Sea Dumbbell funny

cobalt pewter
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That's heavily situational

crude geode
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ā€œLuxor is meh nowā€ my ass.

cobalt pewter
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I mean

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The summoner one is just worthless

pine star
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Yeah

cobalt pewter
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But I don't find particular interest on other signs as well

pine star
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Mycoroot Luxor's is funny

long vault
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it seems to me like it's best for melee but

pine star
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But otherwise, Luxor's is decent and only decent

cobalt pewter
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Symbiote tho

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Symbiote is god

long vault
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like melee player might use it all the way into hm

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everyone else would replace it i feel

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ĀÆ_(惄)_/ĀÆ

coarse bronze
#

Here is my list of opinions on shrine items:

Trinket of Chi is a joke item
Onyx I have never got it though
Luxor is still good with certain weapons, otherwise its bad HM
Tundra Leash is kinda bad, considering that about the time you go exploring underground ice is after you defeat KS
Symbiote goes brrr
Effigies are gay
Terminus is pretty Poggers
Murasama is bad

crude geode
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It’s at least a 40% damage increase (ranged being the lowest benefit)

cobalt pewter
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Not only it kinda extends true melee range a bit, 15% extra true melee dmg is hnng

pine star
#

Murasama is not a shrine item

cobalt pewter
#

Would love for it to go back to 25%, but yech

pine star
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Also why is Murasama bad

long vault
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not even usable pre yharon

cobalt pewter
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Murasama is part of lab structure now

long vault
#

literally does nothing

cobalt pewter
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Not shrine

coarse bronze
#

oh shit its not shrine anymore

long vault
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also not shrine

coarse bronze
#

fuck

cobalt pewter
#

And Murasama IS intended post Yharon

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You just can get it anytime

coarse bronze
#

but effigies are gay

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You need to turn off frameskip

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who plays without frameskip OMEGALUL

serene fox
#

what

coarse bronze
#

wait

crude geode
#

what

pine star
#

what

long vault
#

what

coarse bronze
#

do your guys effigies work with frameskip on?

serene fox
#

why wouldn't they?

crude geode
#

^

coarse bronze
#

:byeah:

long vault
serene fox
#

eyeah

crude geode
#

Frankly? I wouldn’t mind a ā€œshrine locatorā€ tool.

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Instead of just making the things craftable.

long vault
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see I've tested it and some shrines just randomly wont spawn in a world for whatever reason

serene fox
#

yeah I don't think shrines are guaranteed to spawn

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which is wacky

crude geode
#

Tbh they should be.

coarse bronze
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Make shrine things craftable

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Onyx could be uhhhhhhh

crude geode
#

Frankly I think that takes away from what makes them unique.

dapper coral
#

that kinda

coarse bronze
#

Obsidian and some stuff I guess

dapper coral
#

negates the point of there being shrines

crude geode
#

^

coarse bronze
#

true

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but then again

long vault
#

I'm down for whatever I'm just sick of tearing out the entire world and not even finding a shrine

coarse bronze
#

as Farma said, they sometimes don't spawn

crude geode
#

Then have them guaranteed to spawn.

coarse bronze
#

I have had only 6 playthroughs where an onyx shrine spawn

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I have done 157 playthroughs of the mod

serene fox
#

how is this man

crude geode
#

^

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What free time do you have

coarse bronze
#

F r e e

long vault
#

yes

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i mean tbh that sounds about accurate

coarse bronze
#

im gonna go play on Ps minigame server

crude geode
#

Frankly just guarantee the spawns of them, and then gives us a shrine locator tool that points us in the direction of the closest shrine. Maybe made after evil boss.

coarse bronze
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I don't want to do my calamity summoner playthrough tbh

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I just don't feel like calamity

long vault
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like it says something when the odds of a shrine spawning on any given world are less than 1/20

coarse bronze
#

maybe once christmas break hits

crude geode
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if you wanna steal my idea and bake it into your sugg farma, I’d be fine with it

long vault
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mmm idk how to type that in I'm the big tism

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like I've actually been stewing on what i already wrote for the past 2 hours

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and it's still not worded great

crude geode
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I mean that’s completely fair, I worry about my suggs excessively as well.

coarse bronze
#

im still wondering what happened my statigel suggestion

crude geode
#

I would maybe say change the title to ā€œGuarantee Shrine Spawns, and give players a tool to locate themā€. And then tack on some reasoning about how giving players the ability to hunt down shrines would still make them unique in their shrine nature, while giving players the ability to actively know where to search.

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@long vault

long vault
#

like that?

crude geode
#

frankly I’m heavily against crafting them, since them being in the shrines is what makes them special and unique. If you wanna keep it, I can’t stop you.

long vault
#

frankly, if we're allowed to craft jungle shrine things i don't see why these shrines should be different

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ĀÆ_(惄)_/ĀÆ

hot zephyr
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Shrine items are kinda odd

crude geode
#

I mean that’s valid enough reasoning even tho jungle shrines are a lottery machine sometimes, and you can get 15 feral claws instead of a single staff of regrowth or anklet of the wind

hot zephyr
#

Some are great (onyx drill, luxors) while some are useless (trinket of chi)

crude geode
#

Just rebrand trinket of chi into a stealth item tbfh

hot zephyr
#

I've never found the Tundra Leash or Gladiator's locket. Literally never

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But like... Crimson Effigy and Luxor's Gift are a constant

long vault
#

not to mention things like starfury being added as a drop to a mob

sharp prism
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ive found the all :sungla:

hot zephyr
#

starfury is easier to craft than to find in death

sharp prism
#

^

hot zephyr
#

since heat protection is hard to obtain, but falling stars are easy

long vault
#

i always just used the ol obsidian skin potions for heat prot

hot zephyr
sharp prism
#

FUCKIGN

crude geode
#

yep.

serene fox
#

thanks I hate it

long vault
#

oh thats triggering

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i need to update my suggestion now

sharp prism
#

@fabsol please fix

hot zephyr
#

Let me make a new suggestion

crude geode
earnest cape
#

I hate you Ian

crude geode
#

Mfw when not šŸ› ļø

hot zephyr
#

Let me.. LET ME SUGGEST THIS. IT MUST BE FIXED.

long vault
#

it is suggested

violet dagger
#

ocd.exe

serene fox
#

why are the tiniest and most miniscule changes the ones that get the most votes ech

violet dagger
#

because

hot zephyr
#

that's not miniscule

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It's important

long vault
#

because they're easy to implement

pine star
#

Because everyone agrees with them

crude geode
#

What Ian said

pine star
#

Literally everyone

crude geode
#

And yes

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Less controversial

earnest cape
#

it is VERY important

crude geode
#

This is the most important suggestion in the history of suggestions

hot zephyr
sharp prism
serene fox
#

should prolly separate those two suggestions

heady storm
#

These would be two suggestions byeah.

long vault
#

can't edit images onto a sugg

hot zephyr
#

delete and resend it

heady storm
#

Gonna ask you to separate them as a result.

long vault
#

also it's already in the voting thing

hot zephyr
#

Can I make the symmetrical shrine sugg

crude geode
#

It would be a blue check

violet dagger
#

time to steal the suggestion HahaYes

crude geode
#

And yeah do it Ian

dapper coral
long vault
#

so suggesting it again seems

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odd

hot zephyr
#

It needs to be resurfaced

long vault
#

ok you do you

serene fox
crude geode
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icicle arrow used to face upward

dapper coral
long vault
#

i mean, asymmetrical shrines can't bother anyone if they DON'T EVEN SPAWN

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is this actually just bigbrain by calamity devs?

sharp prism
#

i voted for it even though its already in

sharp prism
#

fuck taht

crude geode
#

I should have a dono weapon at some point be a staff that faces downwards

long vault
#

make a sword you swing from the blade

earnest cape
#

thank you ian

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I hope it gets through

hot zephyr
#

Should I add more reasoning?

serene fox
#

Ian about

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to get 300 stars

earnest cape
#

i think it gud

long vault
#

uhh

crude geode
#

I think it’s self explanatory.

long vault
#

update suggestion to also make jumbo 3 block chests

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ĀÆ_(惄)_/ĀÆ

crude geode
#

Minecraft big chests in terraria

earnest cape
#

n o

violet dagger
#

what about the obsidian brick cavern shrine sugg

long vault
#

extra cursed

#

spawns not even a chest you get a dresser

crude geode
long vault
#

shrine spawns iwth items loose on the ground so lava can destroy the shrine loot

#

ez

crude geode
#

I’ll make it when it’s been like 3 hours since a sugg

hot zephyr
#

Honestly I think shrines should have torches inside of them to make them easier to spot

long vault
#

the jungle ones do at least

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i think

crude geode
#

They do

cobalt pewter
#

imo the onyx one needs some kinda clues around

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Like

violet dagger
#

also scrolling through voting I saw the peepoweird sugg and thought someone suggested ballfart

cobalt pewter
#

It's the only shrine inside the biggest fucking area in the world

long vault
crude geode
#

Blame Redā„¢ļø

earnest cape
violet dagger
#

thatd require messing wih vanilla code most likely tho

#

which is

#

:fear:

earnest cape
#

too much sweating

crude geode
#

Please god no

violet dagger
#

inb4 that gets suggested

crude geode
#

if peepoweird has shown us anything, it won’t get anywhere

long vault
#

ballfart

ballfart.

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1,000,000 stars

hot zephyr
#

~~my last sugg in voting died at 196 stars HDfailure ~~

sharp prism
#

suggest ballfart

earnest cape
#

sad ian noises

crude geode
#

people really love complaining about astral but nobody mentions how you visit the brimstone crags once and then never really have a good reason to visit it again

hot zephyr
#

visit it twice

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actuall

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thrice

long vault
#

you visit again to get the thing from brimstone elemental to craft the heart

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so twice

hot zephyr
#

brimmy, gael's greatsword, fishing

earnest cape
#

^

long vault
#

tbh brimstone elemental feels like more of a miniboss than a real boss

crude geode
#

Fishing-Calamity players are scared and confused by what you just said
Gael's Greatsword-Ah yes, a melee swordAmidiasEvasion

long vault
#

is that just me?

serene fox
#

prolly just you

crude geode
#

^

hot zephyr
#

Just you

earnest cape
#

just you

long vault
#

like you just show up an "hey die pls so i get the item that makes cal easier"

crude geode
#

Like, with Astral, every class visits it at least twice for Astrum Aureus and Deus.
Sunken Sea offers Post DS things for every class in the form of Amidias, and then in Early Hardmode has some stuff for generally everyone iirc, and is also a lot of different fish.
Brimstone Crags, Brimmy. Otherwise, fishing for Ranged/Rogue, and then Gael's Greatsword. That's it.

hot zephyr
#

What's your idea to improve it?

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Brimstone Crag has it's own ore and armor set

earnest cape
#

summoner will visit astral at least wtice

summer sentinel
#

symmetrical shrine suggestion, interesting...

long vault
#

make brimstone elemental a merchant after you defeat it that needs a house in the brimstone crag, that'll get people to visit

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:hehe:

earnest cape
#

oh yeah isn't underground astral is being beeger the next update

crude geode
#

Calling Brimflame a Brimstone Crag armor set disregards the fact that it's entirely themed around Calamitas and only is obtainable after Clonelamitas is dead.

earnest cape
#

agreed

crude geode
#

I would just like to see more to the Brimstone Crags, and more reasons to visit the new biome. The other three modded biomes all have reasons to visit them more than once for every class, but Brimstone Crags does not.

sinful violet
#

It’s not like it’s not a crag set either though

serene fox
#

feelschungus

sharp prism
#

feelschungus

violet dagger
#

ballfart

long vault
#

ballfart

serene fox
#

you misspelled it in the header btw

sharp prism
#

if only i put that much effort into my school work like i did to that sugg :feelschugus:

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i did

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FUCK

violet dagger
#

chugnus

crude geode
#

bruh momentum

sharp prism
violet dagger
#

time to suggest

sharp prism
#

dont sugg ball fart

earnest cape
#

ballfart

ashen warren
#

ballfart

crude geode
#

yall are just flooding posting, reducing the chances of everything in general tbfh

sleek girder
#

hmmm

sleek girder
#

i kinda feel like the brimstone crag deserves brimstone weapons in their respective shadow chests

heady storm
#

IT ARISES.

sharp prism
#

it does

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:feelschungus:

serene fox
#

him.

earnest cape
#

all hail?

cobalt pewter
#

FEELSCHUNGUS

sharp prism
#

all hail.

cobalt pewter
#

:lets:

earnest cape
cobalt pewter
#

@sturdy geyser Legendary momentum right here

earnest cape
sharp prism
#

holy shit im shaking its so powerful

long vault
dapper coral
#

christ

earnest cape
#

don't ask

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it is what it is

crude geode
#

anyways, let's get off of this.
Frankly, I wouldn't mind if Brimstone Crag was given a place late pre-hardmode, giving you the choice between Abyss Gear, Slime God gear, and Brimstone Crag gear. Gives more variety (and might make dragoon drizzlefish actually exist)

long vault
#

slime god
late hardmode

crude geode
#

yeah

long vault
#

you mean late pre-hardmode no?

crude geode
#

...yeah, damn

long vault
#

like who using statigel armor during lunatic cultist?

serene fox
#

nohitters

crude geode
#

people who rush LC HDfailure

dapper coral
cobalt pewter
earnest cape
#

movement 100?

crude geode
#

nohitting is the next logical step for me now that I've beaten the game in deathmode, but frankly I don't have the brain cells, patience, of will to do it.

marble hazel
cobalt pewter
#

I just have no will to do it vs twins

long vault
#

twins is fine

cobalt pewter
#

I had to turn arma off because they're getting on my nerves

#

Making use of max drata vs scal is more fun than arma twins

long vault
#

the real nohit mvp is Amber Crawler

#

you just

#

stand on it

#

and lose instantly

earnest cape
marble hazel
#

on the earlier topic i pray to God feelschungus or ballfart never gets in

long vault
#

whats wrong with ballfart

sharp prism
#

i understand ballfart but feelschungus?

serene fox
#

too powerful for this server

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iirc

marble hazel
#

wait

sharp prism
#

my bad

#

Whoops!

marble hazel
#

let me grab my reasoning on why feelchungus shouldnt be added

sharp prism
#

no

long vault
#

calamity boutta be too powerful for 32bit tmodloader

summer sentinel
#

bruh it actually happened

#

The feelschungus recommendation

crude geode
#

yeah

#

it's all anyone is talking about

serene fox
#

he has arrived

crude geode
#

bc haha funny meme

sharp prism
#

why are people losing their minds lol it was bound to happen

long vault
#

so anyway I added my suggestion to a clipboard so when feelschungus passes I can suggest again

summer sentinel
#

You don't necessarily need the text explinaing the emote though, just posting the emote enough suffices for emote suggs but a small description of it can be ok

sharp prism
#

WAHT

#

YOU MEAN

#

FUCKING HELL

marble hazel
#

because feelschungus doesnt express any emotion whatsoever :/

#

theres my reasoning

summer sentinel
#

just keeping Feelschungus shows the emotions of what and weird. is enough. the title can also be shortened to: add :feelschungus:

marble hazel
#

its literally a shitpost emote

#

what and weird..??

#

how

sharp prism
#

idk

long vault
#

i mean

distant gyro
#

ballfart saga is shitpost

hot zephyr
marble hazel
#

exactly

#

what altix said

long vault
#

LeviPufferfish is also a shitpost emote

hot zephyr
#

Let democracy decide

#

140 votes

marble hazel
#

its calamity themed

sharp prism
#

gone

#

reduced to atoms

hot zephyr
#

wtf is hage themed after

long vault
#

suggestion to add a giant pepo frog boss

sharp prism
#

:feelschungus:

crude geode
sharp prism
#

THATS NME

#

A PERECT USE FOR IT

long vault
#

he turns into ugandan knuckles for p2

crude geode
#

can we stop yet.

dapper coral
#

alright yea let's talk about not this

marble hazel
#

yeah,,

#

theres literally no reason to add feelschungus other than for the sake of being "funny"

long vault
#

hmm

crude geode
#

let voting decide, and just drop it

marble hazel
#

alright

long vault
#

:brimlewd: should be an emote

marble hazel
#

we'll let the people decide

serene fox
#

no

long vault
#

:hehe:

dapper coral
#

okay seriously

long vault
#

so anyway about those shrines

dapper coral
#

go to another sugg
if yall don't have any more suggs to discuss, then go to another channel

crude geode
#

I'm gonna go back to what I was discussing before people lost their shit over an emote sugg.

marble hazel
#

i was just presenting my points though

crude geode
#

Brimstone Crags really deserves to actually have legitimate reasons to be visited by every class. The only significant one is Brimmy.

long vault
#

imagine if they make them 1 block wider, but the chest is on the left side so it's still not symmetric

#

isn't there a fish you have to get from brimstone crag for the calamitas brew?

#

also the rogue potion

#

or are peeps here not about that potion life

crude geode
#

one thing for melee and one for stealth rogue taxevasion also it's fishing which bores Calamity players

long vault
#

hey man 15% increased movement speed is good always

#

don't knock that brew as melee only

serene fox
#

dunno if that's sarcastic or not

long vault
#

what?

#

you think 15% extra movespeed is not good?

serene fox
#

not in this current patch

#

maybe in the draedon update

long vault
#

do you even SPEED bro

serene fox
#

thing is that movement speed doesn't affect top speed

#

it only affects how fast you accelerate to top speed

long vault
#

exactly

serene fox
#

that's

#

useless

long vault
#

nyet

summer sentinel
#

movement speed in calamity isn't something I ever consider since it never feels like there is a need for it, and that's good because if you are reliant to being fast, it can get really... mundane

serene fox
#

who needs to fight the boss when you outrun it LETSFUCKINGGOOOO

sharp prism
sleek girder
#

and don't even mention thoriums perm movement speed upgrade

long vault
#

going so fast you clip past the kill wall on yharons arenanadoes

sleek girder
#

if you combine with clam

long vault
sleek girder
#

burden breaker + that one purple thorium item

long vault
#

get so much speed that the friction that slows you down speeds you up instead

sleek girder
#

that you get from rag

#

and asphalt

long vault
#

12,000mph ez

crude geode
#

move to other mod talk

long vault
#

anyway ye brimstone idk

unreal viper
#

Feelschungus is generally a pretty generic emote tbh, I feel like tax evasion covers most of its uses.

sharp prism
#

taxevasion is forgettable where as feelschungus is not

whole sedge
#

feelschungus is forgettable though taxevasion

sharp prism
#

no it not!!!!!1!!1

long vault
#

what's feelschungus?

cobalt pewter
sand umbra
#

why have I been summoned

cobalt pewter
#

a clown said that taxevasion is forgettable

sharp prism
#

uh oh

long vault
#

it is but how is that related to feelschungus

sharp prism
#

also ive wanted to sugg this since i first saw feelschungus

long vault
#

you know why feelschungus is bad?

#

because it's not even a chungus it's a pepe

#

there i said it

#

there is no chungus in feelschungus

sharp prism
#

Not with that attitude!

long vault
#

there's not even a feels it's just a catto

#

maybe if you called the emote "pepecatto" people would vote for it more

#

but feelschungus is misleading

#

nay

#

false advertising

#

and quite frankly those vibes disgust me

#

good day sir

sharp prism
#

tbh

#

i didnt make it

#

or name it

marble hazel
#

are you seriously trying to debunk why its called feelschungus?

#

bro its a shitpost emote

#

its not supposed to make sense

long vault
marble hazel
#

i like this spider sugg

long vault
#

isn't infinity firing for super long periods of time kinda the point?

unborn lantern
#

hm

#

idk

#

but its still really annoying

earnest cape
#

then don't use it?

unborn lantern
#

fair enough

earnest cape
#

just use shredder if you don't like it

#

and plus infinity is quite weak ngl

unborn lantern
#

ok ngl thats way better ty

earnest cape
gray nebula
#

do not add feelschungus

earnest cape
cobalt pewter
#

Iban is now anime

earnest cape
#

pog

hot zephyr
#

Any other feedback on my sugg before I log off for the night?

earnest cape
#

nah it's gud imo

#

and gn

cobalt pewter
#

Night

hot zephyr
#

Thanks

glass sentinel
#

wait i thought that was the point of the underground astral

earnest cape
#

should i

wintry socket
#

i dunno i just think the fog just need a bit less

#

i also forgot to put

"And it makes exploring it a bit more harder"

earnest cape
#

mmm

glass sentinel
#

@wintry socket just edit the sugg

wintry socket
glass sentinel
#

oh, np ig

heady storm
#

A visual example would fit this nicely imo.

earnest cape
#

oh yeah true

glass sentinel
#

a screenshot ig

#

compare it to like normal underground

#

i can do it if you like

cosmic jungle
heady storm
#

Inb4 I approve the suggestion early.

glass sentinel
wintry socket
cosmic jungle
#

calamity main doesn't deserve the power of feelschungus

glass sentinel
#

to you yah

heady storm
#

I couldn't hesitate.

earnest cape
#

feelschingus

cosmic jungle
#

DAMNIT chetto

glass sentinel
cosmic jungle
#

why must you

glass sentinel
#

please

fossil torrent
#

fuck

earnest cape
#

because yes

heady storm
#

Because I felt like it.

fossil torrent
#

dont bring inside jokes to outside people

heady storm
#

Move along chungi.

glass sentinel
#

hey

cosmic jungle
glass sentinel
#

the plural is chunguses

ashen warren
#

fuck don't do this to us

earnest cape
glass sentinel
#

thank you very much

hot zephyr
#

bigbigchungus

heady storm
#

I said otherwise Lorax.

ashen warren
#

not the inside joke

earnest cape
#

big chungus big chungus big chungus

ashen warren
#

:boohoo: rn

fossil torrent
#

how do i negative star a suggestion

hot zephyr
#

It's chungi

ashen warren
#

we can't jav

hot zephyr
#

Shungite

cosmic jungle
#

can I reddit downvote the sugg

earnest cape
#

it's chungusesai

frail mantle
#

i mean is it really an inside joke when a server as big as Spirit already has the emote

hot zephyr
#

It isn't really an inside joke

#

It's just sadcatpepe

frail mantle
#

yea four of the servers i'm in has feelschungus, none of which are private

cosmic jungle
#

I mean it's great but like

#

it's too powerful

fossil torrent
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it's not my fault that someone brought inside jokes to outside people in spirit

frail mantle
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i didn't say it was either

fossil torrent
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it's still not a good thing

frail mantle
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i just said Spirit already has the emote

heady storm
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Y'all angy at me for approving the suggestion author's idea.

cobalt pewter
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Why the fuck are we arguing about emotes again

fossil torrent
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because their standards are shit

cosmic jungle
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I'm not angry

glass sentinel
frail mantle
fossil torrent
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we aren't

cosmic jungle
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why would I be angry over fucking pepe chungus sadcat

fossil torrent
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it won't get 140 stars anyways

glass sentinel
hot zephyr
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Bet

heady storm
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So this doesn't need to continue is what you are trying to say.

cosmic jungle
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basically

wintry socket
hot zephyr
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If the fuckin icicle arrow can get like 400 stars, FeelsChungus can get 140

fossil torrent
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bringing a long dead joke to a huge server is just eh

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wont happen

glass sentinel
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yea sure

cobalt pewter
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Icicle arrow?

wintry socket
heady storm
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Oh yeah, Demik's suggestion Feedza.

cobalt pewter
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Also server suggs tend to be emote hell anyways

earnest cape
cobalt pewter
earnest cape
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that

glass sentinel
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lmao 385 reactions

glass sentinel
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demik's magnum opus

heady storm
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A record? Idk.

earnest cape
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prolly

cobalt pewter
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Hnnnnng

hot zephyr
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People will star anything as long as there's a recognizable name behind it. Change my mind

cosmic jungle
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I can't because it's true

earnest cape
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based

glass sentinel
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make the title good, as most just glance at the title

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tbh

summer sentinel
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@wintry socket I should mention that your suggestion should get reworded a little bit as in have some more detail added into it, a little bit more descriptive than just saying it's "thicc", perhaps something along the lines of like:
"the astral fog makes it harder to see enemies and explore the biome, so having the transparency of it increased will make it easier"

hot zephyr
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Here's my suggestion

glass sentinel
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he's doing it now

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i think

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and adding the 2 photos i got

hot zephyr
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Make a "don't" for every suggestion over 150 words

summer sentinel
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that works splendidly then, nice

ashen warren
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ahh fuck, feelschungus better not 140

hot zephyr
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If you can't finish your sugg in 150 words, it's junk

glass sentinel
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:boohoo:

cobalt pewter
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Hnnnnng

fossil torrent
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it won't, nirie.

earnest cape
glass sentinel
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500

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ian's sugg will reach 500

earnest cape
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facts

frail mantle
hot zephyr
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god I wish

glass sentinel
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OCD

earnest cape
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OCD is a bitch

glass sentinel
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NOT. CENTERED. REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

frail mantle
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cause before then people would star suggestions just because color name

hot zephyr
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Who the hell made shrines an odd number of blocks wide

glass sentinel
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šŸ”«

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time to die

earnest cape
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did you know the jungle shrine is also an odd number

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blame redā„¢ļø

glass sentinel
hot zephyr
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Just because Red did a big stupid doesn't mean we have to repeat it

cobalt pewter
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So that's why I only got like 3 implemented suggs outta almost 150

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I don't have a color on my name yet

glass sentinel
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lmao

cobalt pewter
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Silly me

hot zephyr
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Nah Feed

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Just keep posting suggs

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Or be active in gentalk

earnest cape
hot zephyr
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That's my secret, my suggs started gaining more speed the more I talked in gentalk

cobalt pewter
glass sentinel
earnest cape
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this is big brain time

hot zephyr
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If your name is recognizable, or you're a frequent poster you're more likely to gain stars just because of your connections

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I'm going to publish a paper on Suggestion game theory, on how to maximize stars

cobalt pewter
dapper coral
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that is one of the inherent flaws with the sugg system, yes

fossil torrent
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or we could just not

hot zephyr
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anon suggestion time

dapper coral
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but it's not exactly solvable without doing anonymous suggs which is uh
yeah no lmao