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Gotta ping Sygilin for this
(iirc they go under a different name now but the internal ID should be the same)
there is a rule against changing dedicated weapons right
ye we have to wait and see i guess
(I'll do it if nobody else is gonna)
but making flux expert mode is maybe a nono
flux will probably always be rev+ like all legondary
Its not making flux expert mode, it's just removing it from drata crafting tree
@tight chasm
oh thats neat 
You alright with this suggestion?
now we play the waiting game
in #suggestions-posting that is
That’s fine
Aight cool thanks 👍
what could be added to the frost legion event
what if someone added a legendary to that event
jk
all future legendaries are already planned anyways
ye i guessed that
frost legion is if your world loses all snow ig
how would you manage to do that lmao
drata is dedicated content to revengeance no-hitter sygillen so it makes sense that there is atleast 1 rev drop
ye but sygilin (Blossom rush) said it was okay
general progression scaling suggs are fine
it's valid
it's a terrible idea in execution because progression in game design is a thing that some people don't understand but it's valid
I mean
poggers idea!!!
It would indeed do scaling for us
@hollow holly Haven't used Drataliornus, but people say its really strong so something that is very strong should be rev exclusive. Instead, might want to make it VERY CLEAR that it is Rev Only
yeah. I was mainly just irritated that only one weapon in the crafting tree was rev.
@unborn lantern Eidolon Wyrm deals contact damage.
Coldheart Icicle requires you to get very very close.
oh
Providence does not deal contact damage.
That's why she is immune.
Indeed
thanks

you can buy the Celestial Sigil after beating him once iirc
Has anyone suggested to fix voids health bar
What's up with CV's health bar?
it sometimes says 0% when void is clearly above 0 hp
ill actully go ask in bugs first
the 0% is the dark energies
that is a bug, yes
Does it fall under SIS to suggest Bloodflare or God Slayer wings?
you can sugg making them
as long as you don't give em stats and stuff it should be fine
just dont come up with speccs
ok is it just me or is death mode Aquatic Scourge ridiculously easy compared to mech bosses
a wider variety of wings would be pretty pog
it took 30 tries to beat twins for me, it took 2 for AS
ok is it just me or is death mode Aquatic Scourge ridiculously easy compared to mech bosses
great
maybe your gear is specced for worms
just bc you had no trouble with it doesnt mean other people dont
u right actually
i am using ark of ancients
frost armor
and the most powerful accessory of all time, frog leg
ok how is this relevant
i was gonna suggest buffing AS if it wasnt just me
doesnt need a buff imo
@craggy cobalt also you don't have to go through the pillar events each time, you can craft the celestial sigil to summon the moon lord and bypass the pillar events(granted that you have the fragments needed)
there are visual cues
adren has blue particles, rage has red
demonshade enrage has red as well
iirc
Demonshade enrage tints stuff red very noticably
yup
Unlike rage and adren
but rest is too subtle
Oh I'm stupid then
@craggy cobalt why not just make them always craftable? Literally no reason to lock it behind a certain number of kills
After you've beaten ML once, it's significantly easier to just beat ML again with your new gear, so having weapons like this be craftable after a certain kill amount just seems a bit, obscure. also if you want to get weapons for kiling the ML, you can just install fargo's mutant mod and keep the treasure bag and craft that into any of the vanilla drops that ML gives @craggy cobalt
the guy's been pinged 4 times now, leave em alone lmao
i've already exclam'ed it, if they don't come back to fix it then it goes away
oh I wasn't tracking how many times they got pinged, I just wanted to make my statement lol
bruh y'all are cyberbullyin' this one person for wanting to not have to kill Moon Lord again
this is not cyberbullying 
I mean I don't really agree with the sugg but I don't think pinging them every 2 seconds with a new statement as to why they're wrong is a good idea
that's an exaggeration yes but I'm making a point they're either already in deep understanding of what you're saying or literally don't care
and given that this is the suggestions corner, I'm gonna go ahead and bank on the latter
fair enough, I'd say it's a mix of the two for that, though if they don't care, then that's a bruh moment
both and neither are also a pretty common occurrences
in fact the rarest scenario is the scenario where it's just deep understanding and then they actually edit the sugg as necessary
look, what's done is done
but when you see an exclam, that means that they've been pinged about something and they have yet to fix it
so you don't really need to ping them again with more things to fix until they fix that thing (and in this case, all the "fixes" were very similar)
or better yet, check to see what they were pinged about and avoid saying that thing
You can just buy the sigil from the Wizard after you kill the Moon Lord at least once.
Right.
Also.. I'm tempted to make a suggestion about Marked.
Despite it being a debuff that comes from certain post-ML weapons, in effect, it's actually useless outside of the boss rush by that point.
Just about every post-ML boss is immune to it.
Crafting the sigil is just 20 of each lunar fragment if you wish to do that, and that'd be a good suggestion, because as you said, due to their resistance, it makes the debuff a bit obsolete to try and inflict
@hollow holly drata is a dedicated item to Sygilin, which done the first rev no-hit with Blossom Flux throughout
You might need to ask the dedicatee first (if they're still around obv)
sygilin already approved
...
I didn't read chat history ig
@craggy cobalt There's mods for what you're looking for; imkSushi in particular
and that's 5 times now
yes
Yeah just stop by now.
why are all the mods trademarked
iirc if Elysian Aegis is lower than Evasion Scarf, you get elysian dash and vice versa
With this is in mind, should I keep the sugg or something?
at this point it's up to them to change it
The ball and chain torture sugg
this is an interesting sugg, never really thought about it until just right now
Valid so w/e.
why are all the mods trademarked
@violet minnow I guess so that you know that they are a mod (idk man)
also it's just those two
yes but two is still a lot
oh.. lol
maybe just straight up say "on true melee hit"
I don't mind
But either way, specifying true melee hits as "on enemy hits" is pretty dumb
You can use Ark of the Cosmos 5 soccer fields away from the enemy and you can say it's doing damage on enemy hits
Still valid either way.

which could also refer to anything spawned by the weapon on swing.
i think this would be better worded as "to any projectile spawned" for clarity, otherwise it's fine @cobalt pewter
Okok
noice
Idea for glitch effect's suggestion: The flame in the middle part of her body and the lines in her shell will become more dim
So it really looks like she's dying
I haven’t been up to date on all the sugges yet
I don’t want storm lions removed, if their summon was moved to Cnidrion that would make less sense since it’s less eletric the storm lions
Also why have a storm lions summon if there are so stormlions lol
is this in-game yet
iirc 🏁 should mean that it's implemented in some version of the game? so considering that was in july, it is likely in by now
no harm in checking though i suppose
Ya I rlly hope that’s added soon since it makes 2/3 sphere irrelivent
I'm pretty sure they forgot to implement it? I heard Dom's planning to integrate it, maybe soon™
Or next update
Nice
sounds good
yes that'd be a good mention to make for them too
how does it look
typos dont matter too much
grammar is a bit wack but other than that it's fine
"unless its from the player" remove this
i don't think i've ever seen enemies attack a truffle worm, are you sure its not you?
if so the critter manual in 1.4 should be the fix
they don't intentionally try to attack the critters
truffle worm isnt critter
they just kill them indirectly
its an enemy techically
but yes, thye get stomped on
wait nvm
it is a critter
big sadenning
@hasty linden "dark heart" you mean Dark Spark?
isn't Dark Spark post-Polter
heart of darkness?
That sugg with the prisms was recently flagged. Someone pointed it out a few days ago, and since devs unanimously agreed, I implemented it, hence the flag.
I'll be in the game in the upcoming major update, I reckon.

That sugg with the prisms was recently flagged. Someone pointed it out a few days ago, and since devs unanimously agreed, I implemented it, hence the flag.
oh my sugg
yay
Any thoughts on my sugg?
Sounds oki.
^
like
i'm not sure if it can be coded
i sure hope so, because uh.. you do have to admit that making arenas there is a bit of a pain
You'll see what the devs think later.
Clothier sells unsafe dungeon walls (unless another mod which i doubt)
I agree with that yeah, suggestion is good too as it is
I'm aware that he does.
luiafk improved drill mount has an option to only destroy walls so I'm very sure it's possible
but we'll see
My issue isn't that it's impossible to make these arenas; my issue is that it's very, very annoying and slow to make them.
I'm hoping these explosives will speed that process up.
luiafk works too but I can see where you're coming from, like plantera/pbg arenas take a bit to make properly
I feel making a decent sized plantera arena is pretty crucial to every terraria playthrough
Exactly; it might as well be a required activity in most playthroughs.
And over multiple runs... it gets tedious.
tedit :D
For me tedit doesn't work with modded tiles
@earnest cape I’m not seeing a reason in your sugg as to why there should be such a toggle
for personal preference :)
So, to continue with the vanity aspect of it?
yeah
Okay so put that in the sugg
I changed the title
Oh
am I doing something wrong 
Okay but that still doesn’t say why it needs to be a thing
Just put in there like
This should be added in order to allow the player to have full control of their vanity, or something
However you wanna word it
Mmkay that’s better 
Hm. That does give me another thought.
thanky
I remember that equipping 3 of the Profaned Moonlight dye grants that one weird aurora effect, right?
the more dyes you put on the "thicker" the aurora effect is yes
and also it gets thicker when you dash
Oh I think I may know what you're talking about
Maybe it should be changed in such a way that the aurora can be disabled during boss fights; I distinctly remember that it.. ah...
made your hitbox appear a bit bigger.
made things harder to see.
I may be mistaken, it has been a while.
that sounds neat but I think it should be in a separate sugg
Sure, but really; by that point in the game, most of what remains is grinding and boss fights.
If you have to take it off for the boss fights.. not all that cool.
(Especially if you like the color scheme otherwise.)
if your only problem with the dye is that it can obscure the player's hitbox during a boss fight, just take it before a boss encounter
Eh, fair enough.
it really isn't that hard
Has there been any sugg to make Crystyl Crusher's right click a "toggle"? So using right click will cycle the tool's left click between the basic pickaxe and beam of destruction
So it's not "swapping" the buttons per se, but it could probably solve both issues that could arise by doing so
Crystyl Crusher sugg 
I know right
What a dumbass

But I actually asked because I just reread the doc for the 6th time now?
I don’t believe so but there’s also the problem of if that would even work
Wait wha.
That is why I'm asking beforehand before suggesting yes
To see if there's any possibility that it would work before I waste my time writing the sugg down

i don't think it is
the previous Siren (Nahlyn) was explicitly requested to be removed from the mod so any mentions of her would not go over well.
why is she explicitly removed?
Also, the armor sets we currently edit to boost rogue stats didn't even have set bonuses in vanilla, they were purely defense (or even vanity). 1.4.1:
calamity isn't on 1.4.1
Bc she’s part of another mod.
also the old siren was removed because the dev that created her didn't want her in this mod anymore
^
also the old siren was removed because the dev that created her didn't want her in this mod anymore
ah.. i see
Bc she’s part of another mod.
what mod?
calamity isn't on 1.4.1
i know
nahlyn is now in Tides of Aether iirc
though i believe the mod is still in production
(edited
Fixed 

Having 33% chance of finding an item in a structure that has 15% chance of spawning was a great idea on it's own

Uhhh
@dreamy citrus check the pins
ye
Oh shit

simply do this: "random number generator" and put numbers to 1-7, rng will decide which mod to ping.
yeah no
Bad biome idea anyway
t!roll d20
also Lauren didn't respond 
so uh @radiant meadow
getting which mod to ping
It's evolving
Just get a mod to come over and delete it
Shit he's still typing
lemme take it from here
ty Brav
Br
ty Brav (2x)
I'm in class
And ben explodes
@dreamy citrus your suggestion violates the suggestion don'ts because biome suggestions aren't allowed, and they take way too much time to implement
Ok
read the don'ts doc in the pins next time before you make one
so I'm just gonna delete it
Ok
good ending: peace restored, nobody banned
ye
you can't be banned for sugging something
unless you post boobs in your sugg I guess
watch as someone suggests putting porn

I wouldnt be surprised if someone did
Bruh
nobody did yet in my tenure
Brimmy is borderline tbh
of sugg watching
Byeah
Scal be lookin mighty thicc
No longer sugg talk

ok guize i rely think cirrus should have no clothes because mod is mature and i said so
make an addon
||no thanks i wanna keep my sanity||
Now I have to live with the fact that there's a possibility for a private mod that does that
There is the waifu pack haha


Exo tier spear?
Wait for next sugg I guess
Thatd be cool
yeah makes sense
Wait for next sugg I guess
You can always discuss the ones in voting or posting idk
remove terraria

I can't sugg anymore because I have 3 on posting
More will incite the wrath of god rover

yeah, you better wait
Uhh, @hardy dock reason?
hit enter too early?
Shift + Enter to go down a line
yeah
did you just use the search function
Less than a month
smh
last time I made a sugg was in august
yeah i always accidentally hit enter too early
I mean, the Dye items used in the upgrades have been made more common
It's not a chore anymore
Yeah but I still prefer the old recipes
It's more the blood orbs or trapper pieces that suck to get
haha
Aureus is innocent compared to Deus

remove aureus plox, i want the nostalgic king slime but purple plox
ech
have you
Holy fu
@dreamy citrus
read the pins
no
its another no
ffs
@dreamy citrus boss suggestions are a no too
@zenith hazel this is a bruhmentum (last sugg)
ok he did not read pins
Plus Queen Slime
now he's asking to get booted i swear
sorry Brav about constantly interupting you
the sugg is already deleted, moving on

Oh yeah actually, since the question didn't get traction, lemme repost something from here
what was it again
Has there been any sugg to make Crystyl Crusher's right click a "toggle"? So using right click will cycle the tool's left click between the basic pickaxe and beam of destruction
So it's not "swapping" the buttons per se, but it could probably solve both issues that could arise by doing so
Curious if this would be possible
y'know that might work
i mean, i dont recall
nah
might be good
its a dont to ask to swap the buttons
The don't doc mentioned specifically bout swapping the buttons
only the right click channel suggs are a don't
ah
ye so it might work and would fix problem
won't change the fact being unable to assign channeling projectiles on right click is stupid
but its a clever fix
The wording of the title might make it so anything Crystyl is a don't, but the focus of the rest of the point is about the right click swap
oh
ye so we need to ask a dev
the doc might need to be changed
how old is the doc
doc does need to be changed
the doc needs to be changed yes
ye
who owns the doc
rover iirc
rover did admit the doc was a bit butched lol
thought it was pinkie, actually
and also a bit elitist
should I just @ a dev about it
no
ok
meh
@quiet abyss give me edit rights on the doc
not every dev has access
bold ask
Lmao philo out here
we're not just gonna give some rando perms
I'll wait for a dev confirmation on the Crystyl thing before forming a suggestion about it

w>
Photo isn't channeled
If you want an example of a channeled weapon, something like Last Prism is an example ig
That, I assume, wouldn't work on right click
but using right click on crystyl to toggle laser or manual on the left click wouldn't be either, no?
unless terraria code is so spaghetti that it considers a toggle as channelling that "mode"
Toggle can be a "single use" and not channeled if I'm not wrong
So both base pickaxe capability and the channeling will be on left click, but cycling between them will be through clicking RMB
so the sugg doesn't conflict with the dont as far as i can tell
Indeed, but all I need is a confirmation from a dev if it's truly possible to work on that before suggesting
I'll prolly just make the sugg in the meantime
About that Mage sugg
Band of Mana Regen
can't reliably get that before getting clapped by EoW
mana regeneration band is technically post-eoc by re-logic progression™️
I'll one-up that, celestial cuffs is technically pre-boss
will you actually get it? no
can the celestial magnet be selled before any boss? if yes then you can technically craft Celestial Cuffs.
Celestial Magnet has no boss limit ye
But the chance of it showing up is quite bad
But who has 15 Gold to throw at a Celestial Magnet Pre-Boss 
When you have too much ideas for suggs but you can't post more than 3 at a time in posting

You seem to hit the rate limit quite often
Maybe we should lower the limit for you specifically, as you are a frequent offender for this issue
So the limit will be 2 for you and 3 for everyone else

What emote even is that cat XD
Yes
Basically 3 in #suggestions-posting
then be patient™️
Since sugg bot moves everything not exclaimed to voting after 24 hrs
5head
Rover is no exist
You people don't get a Shackle just by chance within your first 2 nights?
Feedzuh you pinged me when I was afk
sowwy
You people don't get a Shackle just by chance within your first 2 nights?
I get one when doing a random BM

i get only 1 when massacring around 100 zombies
i get like 20 on the first night
does summoner have an aerialite weapon besides sand snark stanf
forbidden apex wand and sand sharknado staff aren't part of the aerialite set
ye i know but they use aerialite
well, it's not fitting to call them aerialite weapons if they're not part of the aerialite set
i feel like someone has already suggested added an aerialite summon
its so close
im gonna repost it in a few days once im allowed too
@dreamy citrus You know it's not possible to teleport while you have Chaos State (w/ Calamity enabled), right?

yep.
Ok, but can you make it possible to only work in abyss? Might be much to ask tho
As in, you can use it but it won't teleport u
You just... Left click the Road to summon it you don't even have to tp
the reason why you can't use RoD in the abyss is because you can cheese breath timer to stay longer on the abyss, especially in the last layer.
^^^
Wait how do u summon Ewyrm I forgot the biome
abyss..
If my thing is too much to ask then that's ok. Could we at least make it so you can tp in abyss, it just doesn't reset the pressure timer?

why are you even trying to cheese abyss though. actually go through it instead like most human beings that dont use RoD cheese
ye no tp in abyss = good
more explor
also then there would be no way to summon big worm
or you can dig a hole and punch through the wall
but now it suffocates you if you try to make that.
if you are in water, it wont suffocate you
abyss causes an effect that suffocates the player if the player its outside the water and within the abyss wall.
there's no reason to use RoD on the abyss other than being either summoning Wyrm or wanting to kill yourself on the abyss.
AEW is literally supposed to stop people from cheesing into lower layers of the abyss without the required pre-requisite gear
that's like, the whole point of its existence
that should probably be added to the dont doc
like "Don't make suggustions about teleportation in the abyss"
ye
uhh, idk, but thats Fabsol's NPC.
so the one that manages Drunk Princess is Fabsol.
That's why I want the drunk Princess to rarely be named Fabsol or Mountain drew. Just for an easter egg
You should have a title on a separate line
I suck at these suggestions huh
And I dinno
Shift + Enter to line break.
I'll fix it hold on
Can it be considered dedicated to fab?
The wiki says so, I believe
Gonna ask anyways
@ancient widget sugg procedure requires us to ask you for your approval on the sugg about names to the Drunk Princess
Yes I approve
Fabsol ping moment indeed
Drunk Princess will only ever have 1 name
Oh wait
Maybe I could add two more names
Like you suggested
Hm
Yeah, seems fine
:O
ty
i thought there is a config already for the hp bar
well i guess i'm blind then because i cant find it
ill check if there is one
if there is, i'll delete it

There should be. Was added at some point
Just want to say thanks to Fabsol for approving my message
I have a suggestion to propose, and i want to say my idea here first
I think you gotta put it in the suggestions post first, then mods will review, and maybe a dev will approve (thanks Fabsol)
You can quit with the thanking now.
Ok
I just think a dev approving of my point is good for my mmod so I gotta repay by thanks
You only need to say it once.
This suggestion has a factual error
Ye ,ironically, thanking too much gets annoying
Alright
They were already notified
for the exclamationed sugg. there is a config for it but it disables it for EVERYTHING. bosses and minibosses.
no they dont iirc
mmkay
so what you should do then, is remove the bit in the title saying it should be an option, because it already is
focus your sugg around making it togglable so that it works for minibosses only
since that's what your main concern is
Yep.
Also i feel like making a sugg to the healthbar aswell but i dont know how to word it correctly so im thinking
okay
that will probably be a separate sugg so whenever you have that one you can post it
for now just make sure to alter this one
Yeah i posted it for now just to get thoughts on it.
wait a minute
is this only applying to stuff like EoW that splits a bunch? or is it applying to if there's a bunch of different bosses
Not eater per se
the cap is actually 4, so that's a big hyperbole 
But sometimes while playing only cal
i can get like multiple healthbars which is distracting on only one mob
that also
It is kinda annoying to spawn like 5 minibosses but the 4 that i dont want are showing up
so i think having a counter in the bottom like with "arms left" or "segments" would help
12 would actually fill an entire 1440p screen
There is a counter for that tho
But there are weird glitches like for eow
i meant to show an example
if you split sometimes "vile spit" appears as a health bar
yeah that would be a bug
Yeah the hp bars posing as like normal enemies is a bug.
It's most prominently seen with eow when that happens because the segments split and individually move, segments and arms left both exist yes, it's just the eow healthbar ends up making a new one because eow splits, it's technically a "different/new" boss
don't think you can turn off the calamity health bars but not sure
you can
if you scroll up, we had this convo already iirc
ok so nvm its already implemented
@unborn lantern why not test on scal herself, when both weapon is intended to be used
good idea will test and see

fuck, wrong channel, ignore that message, lul
time to wait 10 more minutes
Byech
Yharim's crystal is technically legendary-like but not exactly, it's different but as for the damage, iirc its damage is fine
also yes, what chadlad said: test on the boss itself, using dummys to warrant DPS testing for weapons is inaccurate
i'm exclam'ing it because you do have to do the test on a real boss, not a dummy
once you do that and insert the data lmk and i'll remove it
Why not go one step further and explain why these weapons are Legendary to begin with
their increased power compared to the tier they're obtained at, them being difficult to obtain, and the fact they're Revengeance exclusivity
Lore for legendary wep tooltips seems fine, though I don't think it'd tie into the real main lore/storyline of calamity, it'd just be flavor text/flavor tooltips most likely
That kinda answers itself? (excluding lore stuffs)
Like for example, you'd explain why "yharims crystal" is legendary, but the legendary like aspect is the drop rate/identification of the weapon, it doesn't mean that the item itself is legendary in its lore, they don't tie together
they are just difficult to obtain most likely because of their power
I'd prefer if they tied into the main lore of calamity, since one of them, the Cold Divinity, essentially summons Cryogen
Also I'm not really a fan of the "low drop rate is the legendary like aspect" argument, but I can't think of a counter argument 
Then what else makes them legendary?
best dps
@exotic stag it would be better if you wrote "instead of having multiple bars on screen"
cause you can't have 12 of them
menancing, you can just edit it
kk

mmm
Could work.
I was saying keep the bar the same size but decrease the thing the speed goes down
like how certain bosses die faster then others
and the bar ticks slower for the slower bosses
something like that with a notif under it saying something like "bosses remaining: (number)" like that
sort of how skeletron and prime have the "arms left: (number)" thing
#changelogs message lol i just one step closer from making a sugg about town npc spawnrate and then this appears
this I definitely agree
fighting deus and then all of a sudden his theme just fades out because it gets overridden by the pillars theme is unepic
Just don’t fight bosses while the pillars are going, that’s your mistake
same Brav, it kills the mood in the musical sense for the fight
what baout a blood pact buff
it feels very weak
and barely anyone uses it
i hope you guys share a similar opinion on it
because i dont want it to be jsut me
its pretty good from what ive heard?
it was last rewroked 3 months ago
25% chance, which deal 2.25 times the normal damage
i want to reduce the damage
to either 2x
or 1.75
because pulling 2 crits in a row is absolutely devastating
or potions should just straight up give 2x effectiveness
I think the Stormlion suggestion is a pretty good idea but it's interesting that the Underground Desert in 1.4 has a Storm Spear and Thunder Zapper with a somewhat similar theme to it, while also spawning in the same area.
blood pact already increases potion effectiveness by 50% after an enemy crit
after a crit
yes that is indeed what it does
Crits are kinda
as a game mechanic, especially against the player
defiled mode is basically being removed eventually iirc
Enemy crits aren't too terrible considering you'd use blood pact on a tanky character build and it's being worked sometime in the future Leon yeah
No matter how you slice it, no matter how much it "buffs" the player after getting hit, crits are ech
it'll instead become an item that only disables flight when in your inventory and nothing else
blood pact is essentially made for tank like builds to endure the crit and then do 50% potion healing to try to net positive hp after the crit
Putting a downside to a dice roll is just kinda lame
I've used it, not much though, bit niche in its usage
My friend used it on his first playthrough up to Providence before he ditched it. That was after the buff too
Blood Pact is legit a god tank acc
because if you build tanky enough even a crit just does nothing
and because of the increased potion effectiveness you can just swallow a Greater Heaing Potion or better after the fact and immediately heal for like 225-ish damage
(Blood Pact also grants Crimson healing and multiple other buffs off a crit btw, on top of 225 from a potential Greater Healing Potion)
its a cool accessory
I think its dumb to remove what makes it unique/interesting and niche
Yeah
fighting deus and then all of a sudden his theme just fades out because it gets overridden by the pillars theme is unepic
This also happens with the Cultists in the dungeon if you killed one of them? Their theme will always overlap the current one (e.g. ML)
I might be able to just watch
Is there a rule against making a suggestion regarding mechanical changes to a patron item?
Mmmmmmmm
It's probably an internal rule if there'd be one
Something something they donated specifically for that item, it's designed to be that way
It's something someone paid for so probably not really. As for what you want with your own, I've already said stuff on that and I don't really know.
It does happen with cultist yes, the theme plays over all others when only one dies, I noticed it when I was fighting AD
If it's yours, #suggestions-posting ain't the place
nowhere else is the place either
whose patron item
his
Mine.
probably
then do it in patreon server?
I had a hunch it was
or in some random dev's dms?
Brav you have a dev and you have dms 
doin doin your mom
there isn't really a place in patron server to discuss changes to existing patron items, only to new ones
and even if I annoy a dev about it...there's no precedent for it
my thought process was that if I could get enough traction on a suggestion about reworkin' the Remote, I could then use that to maybe provide additional backing towards that rework past the offer of programming it myself of course since now I'm actually competent at modding as well as competent at item design
@zenith hazel Please stick to suggestion topics only 
anywho thank you for the answers to this question
lemme bring it up to the other devs about this
I shall now: vanish into the ether because there are no suggs that stick out to me as in need of being meticulously dismantled or talked about
annoy me if needed. wheeeeeeeee
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yea it's most likely a no
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@sand umbra what's your item?
the [[Infected Remote]]
Ah
I'm not sure if this is possible, but could subsuming vortex be removed from apotheosis? It doesn't make a lot of sense in there, as most of apotheosis' ingredients are related to DoG and subsuming vortex doesn't have a lot of connections to DoG. Also, having it be a part of Apotheosis means you have to get 3 total subsuming vortexes (one for the weapon itself, one for eternity which makes sense, and one for apotheosis).
sounds fine
Ask terry
should I ping him?
Prolly not until the sugg is made

as long as you had a question Brue, the ping is warranted
Is it okay to remove subsuming vortex from apotheosis?


now that ssv isnt a razorblade typhoon cloen anymore, ok
Ping someone with what you need obviously.
A literal spell tome
event horizon can work?
Just a spell tome?

event horizon is in subsuming vortex
Like, an ordinary one.
yeah
right I realized that as I typed that Chill oops, so just a literal tome, nice
ty terry
when nobody mentions your post even though it seemed really good 
I like it
thanks
actually, the reason Eternity uses SSV was to force the player to choose
unless you like grinding for another one
Brunge farming
But either way, thanks for pushing the Coin of Deceit rework ben, didn't expect it to be reducing stealth strike cost 
time to bug you about Raider's Talisman next
That's pretty lame
I agree, remove SSV from the crafting tree
If it was supposed to be a choice, SSV would be a one time weapon
Asking the player to grind out an exo-tier weapon three, even four times is way too much
exo-tier weapons should really not be used in recipes period tbh.
not that this suggestion would stop people from just using Yet Another Boss Health Bar but it's something
good suggestion, I'm all for that personally. the variation in customizations will invoke more flexibility as a result
not that this suggestion would stop people from just using Yet Another Boss Health Bar but it's something
@crude geode what
i dont think yet another boss healthbar has recipes
...on my most recent suggestion 
it's okay 
@crude geode it's "Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance" btw

imo the problem(s) with MGR style isn't inherently about the design itself
- The style is inconsistent, the percentage uses MGR's fontface yet stuff like NPC name and hp numbers and other things use Terraria's fontface
- Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance's action can take up a lot more screen, hence why you don't need to be as focused when looking at its HP bar as opposed to Terraria, where everything (aside from Bosses ig) including the player is small in comparison
I think that's why the idea of MGR:R's health bar doesn't fit/look well in terraria. Because it was designed for a different game.
Fair
Everything in MGR:R is high tech, realistic (ish), and sleek. However, terraria is a 2D pixel game, which is a huge jump alone from a 3D game.
wait what, didn't this just get fixed in changelogs? https://discordapp.com/channels/225030931008847874/263382359397761025/775916651815239680
before I post immediately without asking
Is there any plans for more vanity options in the works?
Elaborate?
no
Cool, posted
that's 3 in a row cursed 
not my fault nobody else is having sugg ideas 
Rover would only stop you once it hit 5.
the calamity's vanities mod exists
Mmmmhm
Can agree with the last sugg
It's like uh
Yeah like KS
Though you might need stronger reasoning
Aside from "easter egg"
Actually lore might be a decent reason
I think this would help improve the lore's statements that Cryogen, is just the Archamge's palace. And, like in the lore, Yharim traps Permafrost in his palace, which then turns to Cryo
Alright gtg gonna see results after I wake up tomorrow
@crude geode we have calamity vanities
that's a different mod, and calamity adds dyes, meaning it supports vanity.
whats the point of adding it to the main mod when we already have the vanities mod
the thing is that adding a dye is a form of vanity but it's not like, exactly the same as an actual vanity set. I'm for adding dyes but adding actual vanity itself when, as mentioned, there is a mod that extensively does it already, seems a tad redundant
Yeah same here, CalVanities already does this perfectly and for the people who don't really want it don't have to have it also and bloat up the base mod also 
I mean you could say building materials also bloat up the base mod for non-builders.
it's just different though. the building materials don't necessarily bloat, they add options. the thing with vanity is that there is just no need for it when there is a good alternative. if that alternative didn't exist or did a poor job, then I can see more why you'd want vanity, ideally
Mhmm, the building mats already exist and frankly building, to me, seems like a much more necessary thing than some vanity armor sets also
I mean, the problem I have with CalVanities is that it feels too much like a separated thing from Calamity itself. It adds in critters when Calamity already adds in a few, it adds in a use for the Rock which is like kind of a sin. It just feels very much like a fan thing and not like official at all.
You don't see a link to CalVanities when look at Vanity items on the Calamity wiki.
Which is ideally where you could put one.
they are just listing a myriad and plethora of vanities you can get, not all the ones you should get
that's because calvanities preferred to stay their own thing basically, due to that, we aren't partnered with them due to their request to be their own well, status
It just feels odd to me that you'd have hair dyes for stealth, but adding other vanities because there's essentially a fan mod that does that feels wrong to me.
I forgot to mention there's several more dyes planned still btw.
of course, the sugg still stands
yee, thought as much.
imo, just because calvanities exists doesn't mean that Calamity should not have more vanity. Just like how YABHB doesn't negate the fact that Calamity adds it's own boss health bar
well the thing is, adding a healthbar is significantly easier than adding in vanities since they'd have to be sprited for one, then coded in
I think a suggestion for vanities is like asking a suggestion for weapons; if the devs/spriters want to create more vanity sets they will. A suggestion will not push them towards making more
Yeah except weapons are expected. Only one vanity set that's an old version of an armor set is in the game.

@pallid lynx you need to describe your suggestions in more details and also, read the pins here in this channel. your suggestion should be clear in what it wants to suggest as well as providing reason as to why said suggestion should happen and what's wrong with it currently
mentioning "pretty useless" basically tells us 0
Idk if my submision is going to be voted on as nobody really said anything to me about it and if i need to change anything about my post
probably too early to discuss, but with adrenaline taking 30 seconds to charge instead of 20, could draedon's heart be changed so you only lose a third of your adrenaline on hit instead of half
Tbf, it's vanity
You only get more useless than vanity with something detrimental
Which it kind of is when rng robs you of carpet or sandstorm in a bottle
or to explain it differently, getting hit with the heart on currently takes away 10 seconds of charging and it'll take away 15 seconds of charging with the coming changes, that's a significant nerf to the heart
Make Truffle And Bloodworms being immune to enemies
yes please
It's inherited from stress pills
Which always was half
Regardless of progression
i think its fine if stress pills stay as is and heart gets upgraded, more reason to combine
you wouldn't get draedon's heart until after you already ate an ectoheart whereas pills can be obtained after just slime king so it needs to be considered differently
I would like to make a sugg about it but i assume its too early for that?

Oh hey my sugg got through
why doesn't demonshade give stealth?
other than
making devil stupid
but that's besides the point
Demonshade should indeed give stealth
Bcuz all class
It doesn't give melee speed tho, does it?
it does
Well, the red devil wouldn't benefit because stealth only increases rogue damage and not minion damage
Brue meant Scarlet Devil no?
yes I did

it has always been broken 
Ok but
scarlet devil is only broken with a specific build, otherwise it is balanced mostly ish
well minus the one specific build which is more glassy then yeah
will phup get mad if you murder scarlet devil
maybe
Who is phup 
Phupperbat
the person scarlet devil is dedicated towards
Oh
imonecell
byeah
she most likely will not, but to get the definite answer, it’d be to ask the donor directly. There’s no need to now though because nothings wrong with it
ok so why doesn't demonshade give stealth 
Scarlet devil has the highest base damagd in the game btw
Fun fact
ok so why doesn't demonshade give stealth
because we always know if demon is near us
it’s not overly powerful as much but it’s still solid, as for demonshade that’s just the nature of the armor for the donor
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