You can house the Steampunker in a portion of your underground Hallow @ashen lark in order to get the solution
#suggestions-discussion
ashen lark
That doesn't give solution for everything tho
tawny garden
(solution, lol)
hollow shell
What cases would it not provide a solution for?
It cannot hit the Jungle.
If it hits the Snow, you can purify it (also, Astral Snow biome exists.)
If it hits the Desert, you can purify it (also, Astral Desert biome exists.)
If it hits the Corruption/Crimson, there's solutions for them.
robust lava
The problem is that if you further limit the space in which the Astral Infection can spawn, it's eventually just not going to be able to fall anywhere
hollow shell
@ashen lark what cases would it not provide a solution for?
ashen lark
@ashen lark what cases would it not provide a solution for?
@hollow shell the astral hits the biome
hollow shell
Which biome can you not fix?
ashen lark
Which biome can you not fix?
@hollow shell astral
hollow shell
No I mean
ashen lark
As astral replaces
hollow shell
Which biome is impossible to un-astral?
wooden wedge
afaik none exist that you can't fix
hollow shell
You can return the Hallow to being Hallow after it got Astral'd
same with Corruption/Crimson
wooden wedge
since solutions
ashen lark
No hallow
wooden wedge
and the fact that the underground hallow exists
hollow shell
Yes
You can house the Steampunker in that underground portion
in order to get the Blue Solution
ashen lark
And there was only a small part
hollow shell
and fix it
wooden wedge
the underground hallow spans from the surface to right above hell
ashen lark
So likely it can also completely wipe it.
wooden wedge
the underground astral goes nowhere near that far down
hollow shell
It cannot completely wipe it, that would be impossible
The Hallow generates as a diagonal strip from surface to hell
the Astral generates as a vertical oval that doesn't reach the underground lava-layer
ashen lark
the underground astral goes nowhere near that far down
@wooden wedge well, may have accidentally found a bug then
wooden wedge
???
hollow shell
Send screenshot of map
wooden wedge
use heros mod and reveal your map yeah
I guarantee you that you have a lot of underground hallow
ashen lark
Nvm I've realised I'm a dumbass. The astrals spawn wasn't vertical tho
ashen lark
More curved
wooden wedge
y=x^2-like the 2 tiles that the underground astral goes down to
ashen lark
OK.
hollow shell
Speedruns.
ashen lark
Changed to only complain about surface
wooden wedge
you should also know that you can edit your sugg so you don't have to post an entirely new one
ashen lark
Especially pointing out surface
hollow shell
Remove the bit about speedruns because that's a ridiculously specific case
ashen lark
you should also know that you can edit your sugg so you don't have to post an entirely new one
@wooden wedge yea I do I just misclicked
hollow shell
The bit about money is more valid because Clent is expensive, so you can expand that
dapper coral
what's the bell delphine slime
wooden wedge
I think the part about 1.4 should be removed because calamity isn't even on 1.4 yet
hollow shell
Queen Slime
ashen lark
Also added small bit about provi
cobalt pewter
This can still be fixed with moving steampunker, as rover said earlier
hollow shell
When you're post-ML you should definitely have enough money to afford Clentaminator
cobalt pewter
Plus the 1.4 and delphine slime bit sound kinda iffy
dapper coral
yeah, the 1.4 section needs to go
ashen lark
When you're post-ML you should definitely have enough money to afford Clentaminator
@hollow shell ye but ye but you shouldn't have to memorise provi as the boss you had to clentaminate z to fight
hollow shell
You don't need to memorize it
cobalt pewter
Plus you're not restricted to hallow for fighting provi
ashen lark
yeah, the 1.4 section needs to go
@dapper coral should I just generalise it.
hollow shell
You just go to the astral'd Hallow to fight Prov, realize oh I need to get Clent, and you get Clent.
And you fix it right then and there.
tawny garden
no, remove everything related to 1.4
ashen lark
@hollow shell but you shouldn't have to memorise provi hallow* as the boss you had to clentaminate x to fight
@ashen lark
dapper coral
1.4 ain't happening for a long time, no point in bringing it up now
cobalt pewter
You can definitely fight her in hell, not much harder and actually drops a better item
Byeah
hollow shell
Wert that doesn't change the statement
cobalt pewter
Not only you're not required to fight her in hallow, you can also easily fix the hallow
ashen lark
K removed.
Not only you're not required to fight her in hallow, you can also easily fix the hallow
@cobalt pewter you need to fight both remember
cobalt pewter
No? At least you can just do one at a time to progress
hollow shell
You can fix the Hallow with Blue Solution immediately before you fight Prov, no memorization required
cobalt pewter
You can do provi at hallow post dog if you wanna get ely tracers
ashen lark
or just skip provi and do polter good point @cobalt pewter
cobalt pewter
Either way the suggestion has been kinda beaten up
wooden wedge
you don't need to keep pinging everyone especially when they're in the chat
tawny garden
robust lava
What does 'easy' mean, and I don't think the part about speedruns is all that relevant
cobalt pewter
I don't understand the brackets ye
hollow shell
Normal Mode, I assume
ashen lark
Frick
cobalt pewter
What's the point of that part
ashen lark
Theres a speedrun server
hollow shell
It just seems kinda weird to bring up speedrunning at all
cobalt pewter
You can always farm arma DS for money
hollow shell
because that's like less than 1% of players
wooden wedge
aren't self imposed challenge suggs a don't or is that something else/
tawny garden
iirc there are less speedrunners than nohitters
ashen lark
because that's like less than 1% of players
@hollow shell a 1% gain at a 0% loss is still a 1% gain.
cobalt pewter
Because speedrun imo is more taxing than nohitting
tawny garden
and it's used as a reason in the doc for the subclass don't
cobalt pewter
As hard as nohit is, you don't have a time limit and you're not required to reset your runs
ashen lark
wooden wedge
what does this have to do with the sugg?
ashen lark
Rule 4 is normal, so there's definitely encouragement to do normal
Well suggest to do normal
tawny garden
no
ashen lark
But yeah.
cobalt pewter
That's speedrun rules
tawny garden
it's only for speedrunners
tawny garden
it's actually recommeded to play in rev
robust lava
For a majority of people, it's recommended to do Revengeance
ashen lark
Ye, but not everyone does.
robust lava
Stop having similar ideas Philo
cobalt pewter
So your whole suggestion is kinda wack since you're balanced your sugg around speedrunning
ashen lark
Money rains down on you in rev, but not in normal/expert
cobalt pewter
Which is already a "minority" gameplay of sorts
ashen lark
So your whole suggestion is kinda wack since you're balanced your sugg around speedrunning
@cobalt pewter nope
frail mantle
simple solution: replace the speedrunner part with something about how not everyone plays in Rev and up
ashen lark
About drops that aren't possible to norm/expert players.
frail mantle
because i can guarantee you that there are way more Normal/Expert players than there are speedrunners
ashen lark
K
because i can guarantee you that there are way more Normal/Expert players than there are speedrunners
@frail mantle i used speedrun as a example
tawny garden
you shouldn't use it as an example
frail mantle
well you should use an example that applies to more people
wooden wedge
I still don't see what this has to do with the astral sometimes landing on a biome and voring it
frail mantle
i.e. Normal/Expert players
robust lava
I think it's to do with money issues
ashen lark
in any mode it's easy to get 2 plat
@wooden wedge not at start of hm
wooden wedge
even at the start of HM
ashen lark
Nop
tawny garden
I had 13 Platinum at the start of HM
ashen lark
Unless you have more mods installed
wooden wedge
...no?
robust lava
I usually just farm Desert Scourge, although that might not be as good now that fishing drops were changed
tawny garden
I only had calamity
ashen lark
Plat is kinda hard to so
wooden wedge
calamity has boss summons in shops
ashen lark
Do*
wooden wedge
you could just grind some bosses
wooden wedge
platinum really isn't hard to earn in this game
cobalt pewter
This suggestion is already beaten to pulp at this point 
tawny garden
technically, one thing still needs to be done
wooden wedge
it's a fine sugg, but the reasons could be a lot better
ashen lark
Hmmm I could reinforce provi point
Being the reason that the clentaminator doesn't have far enough reach
Lots of issues tho, so idk
wooden wedge
the clemtaminator has enough range to convert a biome tho
ashen lark
the clemtaminator has enough range to convert a biome tho
@wooden wedge yea but not enough to reach everything on screen.
wooden wedge
iirc it has like a 50 tile range
violet minnow
I would like i biome spawn rework cause my hallow (the only surface hallow i have) is in the sky on a planetoid rn, but i dont feel it is massivly needed, and the clentaminator is there for a reason
dapper coral
@ocean raft why did you post another suggestion about the auric armor magic carpet? the first one hasn't even gone to voting yet
dapper coral
that's not a reason to make a separate suggestion about it
ocean raft
And I edited the suggestion to make it better worded
dapper coral
when it goes to voting, if it hasn't reached the star requirement in a week, you can repost it again
ocean raft
K
Imma straight up learn to make a terraria mod just for this because dammit if it isnt annoying
ocean raft
Oh he deleted it
I removed the other one before I posted because I changed the title and words
But bruh
mossy badge
lemme see
ocean raft
Its right here
Make a way for the Auric Armor Magic Carpet toggleable
This can be really annoying when fighting Supreme Calamitas. If I am in the middle of her brimstone blast phase and all of a sudden all vertical movement stops and I am only moving side to side, I take damage. That is REALLY annoying considering how easy this could be to fix. It could be a config option, or have an item like the Ball and Chain, or even there could be a pair of the Cuisses that don't use the magic carpet, and can be crafted into and without the carpet.
Imma just wait a week then repost it
dapper coral
for the record, doggo, don't ping people just to see their sugg after it's already gone
mossy badge
just drop
ocean raft
So imma learn visual studio and brb one sec gotta learn C# too
dapper coral
and you can edit your suggestion instead of deleting it, robert
so, since they're both gone now, you can put that one in if you want 
mossy badge
lol
ocean raft
Ah epic
tawny garden
Delayed your own sugg 
tawny garden
Hopefully it will get kicked into voting earlier
dapper coral
twas an oof
hollow shell
The checkmark system still exists
even if it doesn't function at this current moment
so we could approve it early yes
tawny garden
You did kinda deperecate it
dapper coral
don't remember when it went up yesterday though, is the problem
hollow shell
(In hindsight I do indeed see why Ben was concerned with the original ❗ vote, cuz of the implications that would have to the approve system if it was integrated into the bot, even though that wasn't the main proposal of my suggestion)
(but, I don't regret it. I like this system better)
tawny garden
don't remember when it went up yesterday though, is the problem
@dapper coral you have deletenotifs access tho
dapper coral
bot's down rn
tawny garden
Both if em?
dapper coral
almost all of them
tawny garden
dapper coral
amber's got some personal stuff to deal with rn so they're gonna be down for a bit
dapper coral
god
tawny garden
Yeah it would probably be best for me to not
viscid dagger
I'm back again. So this has been on my mind for awhile and its Night Prov's quote "The air is burning". I don't really see why it was re-used considering Night Prov is a special boss (more or less). My solution to this would be to change the quote to some like "The air glimmers with cyrstalline moonlight". Its really just a small change but I think it would be a good change. Thoughts?
crystal iron
Add a weapon that stops time cuz ZA WARUDO
tawny garden
no
crystal iron
;(
pine star
tawny garden
crystal iron
wooden wedge
there's already a reference weapon
tawny garden
sand, it's a meme
wooden wedge
and another mod that has time stop
robust lava
Stellar Knife, right?
wooden wedge
yes
pine star
Oh
wooden wedge
isn't soma a reference to warframe??
robust lava
That’s Borderlands I believe
wooden wedge
swordsposion is borderlands
robust lava
Is this related to any Suggs?
wooden wedge
not that I know of
crystal iron
my ZA WARUDO troll Sugg ;)
frail mantle
no
analog tulip
I dont really see anything wrong with being able to disable it and re-enable it since it isnt a major part of the armors set
wouldnt change the balancing of the armor set since you usually dont use it that much because at that time you would have a lot of wingtime
hollow shell
@crystal iron I know you're joking but like don't do that please
Also @viscid dagger you could make a suggestion about that if you want.
tho imo "The air is burning" is generic enough to be used in both day and night, Prov's still made of fire either way
crystal iron
Ye but I guess "air is burning" kind of suggests light and sun etc so it does kinda feel out of place
tawny garden
hollow shell
Ah I already submitted my own to dev
I'm surprised that one didn't get delivered yet but Thomas's flip sugg did
Lack of indicator is the more pressing and clear cut issue imo
sand umbra
I wouldn't really call it more pressing
but rather, I'd call it pressing for different reasons
hollow shell
Maybe.
But it is more clear cut
Nobody will argue that the player shouldn't be told about that mechanic
sand umbra
oh, for sure
hollow shell
I assume it's cuz that person asked for a debuff and people (especially summoners) hate new debuffs cuz of slots
sand umbra
lack of proper mechanics communication is a widespread problem in Terraria and modded has the tools to make it better but it just kinda goes with it instead 
ANYWHO speaking of my sugg
out of curiosity, has there been a verdict on that yet
or are some people still kinda ehhhhhh
ehhhhhhhhh
are they like still unsure on it or something
hollow shell
The testers generally disliked it and prefer the current system over your proposed inverse
Conversation was long
sand umbra
yeah, that's. about what I was expecting
hollow shell
There were some defending your sugg but did not approve of it enough to vote it up apparently
Complaints included that it would make summoner overpowered / heavily encouraged compared to other classes due to the preference given to it
and that it would be a lot of effort to rebalance for it
sand umbra
it's still better than literally forcin' a summoner to use the same like two commonly-used weapons for msot of their playthrough to avoid having nothing to do (while failing to actually punish the non-summoners being extra greedy with DPS, at that)
coarse trout
actually
would a partial solution to that problem (summoners having nothing to do except use the same 2 weps)
be adding more classless weapons?
because I was debaing suggesting something like that
sand umbra
classless weapons are literally just there to give summoner something to do without actually letting themselves be called summoner weapons because they want to be interesting to anyone else
coarse trout
by that logic
adding more of them would give summoners more variety
unless i'm an idiot
sand umbra
yes
requires a lotta balancing work to get right
which apparently is also the reason the summon penalty is staying scuffed 
sand umbra
Lunic Eye is balanced in the sense that its debuff is irrelevant
coarse trout
ig
but it is a homing projectile that does decent-ish dmg
eye of magnus on the other hand
has really good dmg, heals you, and is homing
really good weapon
sand umbra
Eye of Magnus is also a magic weapon
it is not classless, unlike its normal counterpart
also unlike its normal counterpart, it is not a weapon you normally get or even see in like 99% of playthroughs
sick vector
Has it been suggested to add recipes for the noncraftable vanilla lanterns?
Apparently only some of the Dungeon lanterns can spawn in a given world
hollow shell
afaik no it hasn't. You can suggest it
(There's probably other mods which add recipes for those but I don't know what they are)
sick vector
Should I include a link to the wiki page in the suggestion?
whole sedge
(I think imkSushi's adds those but not entirely sure)
hollow idol
I mean, there isn't really anything that requires these lamps in Calamity. Any vanilla recipes the mod offers are for things that are ingredients for things
ocean raft
Um is it just me or does the photoviscerator seem overpowered
frail mantle
depends on how fast it kills SCal with normal on-tier gear in Rev, preferably ripperless
real steppe
ngl I stopped using the wulfrum set (unless summoner) the day they started needing the energy cores
violet minnow
^
Um is it just me or does the photoviscerator seem overpowered
Photoviscerator is kinda OP, but is has a zenith level crafting tree so it doesnt really need a nerf
tranquil perch
no
the crafting isnt really complex
it needs a lot of flamethrowers, sure
but
most of them arent really difficult to get
or
you'd already have them by then
ocean raft
K but it has a higher DPS than most post S Cal ranger weapons
copper turret
that is very true
i was using photo on BR because it was better than the other weapons i used
and what exo weapon doesnt have a zenith level crafting tree
i mean, there are a lot of zenith level crafting trees COUGH COUGH The Sponge COUGH COUGH
copper turret
The items are common sure but there are a ton of things to get
Thats what I mean by it
gusty scarab
i had all but one for the Absorber by the time it was time to get it
copper turret
Unless you are intentionally getting absorber and ambrosial then you will have a lot of hell when you want to get the sponge
gusty scarab
ambrosial was different
copper turret
Most of the time i dont get absorber or ambrosial unless i have no acc slots to waste them on
violet dagger
K but it has a higher DPS than most post S Cal ranger weapons
Dps means nothing unless it's against a boss
crude geode
@sick vector I don’t really see why Calamity should be the mod for this? Sure it sounds annoying, but why should it be a feature of calamity?
I also don’t really see how it’s that time consuming, you can just load up a few worlds and go in with a endgame character to grab them, or just cheat them in using cheat sheet if it’s that annoying.
heady storm
Yeah, you need an incentive for this to be added in a mod like Calamity specifically.
hollow shell
How about
Calamity adds recipes for lots of stuff that can only be obtainable in limited supply or only as alts in other worlds
and it is never required for you to generate more than one world for
pretty much anything
heady storm
@sick vector above ey?
hollow shell
Patience, he was already pinged.
radiant meadow
The difference is that furniture doesn't really fall under that for the most part rather than weapons, accessories, and other gear that has an impact beyond vanity.
sick vector
Couldn't have said it better myself, Rover. I suppose it comes down to effort vs. payoff for implementing anything into the mod, and it seems like a very minor QoL sort of deal.
Minor as in not many people would notice/care
hollow shell
Yeah
Add the stuff I said to your sugg (or however you wanna express it), and a bit about why those lanterns would be valuable to builders
It's true that Calamity doesn't do much in the way of providing access to stuff like vanity and building mats, but I dont care, let the stars decide how much people want those lanterns.
radiant meadow
Well, I do think it should be mentioned or addressed.
Ignoring a valid counterpoint isn't something I think that should be happening.
hollow shell
It'll be sufficiently addressed if he provides reasons why builders would want access to those lanterns without having to make a whole new world for em
imo.
sick vector
Is the counterpoint that the mod doesn't do much with building mats or that it shouldn't do much with building mats?
Or did you get to the latter from the former?
radiant meadow
the latter can be gathered from the former in a sort of precedent reasoning as well as that it's likely something better a mod not focused as heavily on content should add
sick vector
How's this?
radiant meadow
That's a little better I guess
heady storm
Looks fine to me.
hollow shell
Not an amazing argument on the Ink Bomb one considering it's meant to be an earlier game accessory
but, I guess it could help for catching up for Abyssal Mirror later on, in case you didn't acquire Ink Bomb earlier
radiant meadow
That is when a lot of people end up looking for ink bomb
Time to add it to the Colossal Squid drop pool
hollow shell
Eclipse Mirror does exist, so...
proper grail
Okay, it's been 24 hours, does my suggestion get posted now?
proper grail
A random question
What's the best way to get CD role. Fab was talking about it a while back for the purposes of becoming a tester and I'm interested
hollow shell
Well there's no process
It's just an acknowledgement that you're a cool dude who is nice to talk to and trustworthy, and stuff
usually if you've been in the community for a long time
proper grail
I've read the basic description, I just want a channel to focus on. A smaller one where people don't spam stuff. Here's okay.
hollow shell
Sure you can hang around suggestions I guess
proper grail
If I'm going to be active here I don't want to be another #general-media dude. Here is nice, I was wondering what other channels are quiet but still used frequently
hollow shell
Not sure, personally, because I only hang around in the sugg channels.
heady storm
What's the best way to get CD role. Fab was talking about it a while back for the purposes of becoming a tester and I'm interested
Well, implying you want it is a surefire way to not get it.
The standards for the role are pretty high anyway.
quasi flume
I think it's actually easier to get any other role
hollow shell
Yeah lol, just cuz every other role does have a set process
(except Wiki Editor and Wiki Admin, arguably. They also function on a trust & dedication system like CD)
proper grail
I know well just by looking at how few people have it. I'm not actively looking to get the role, I'm just interested in being a tester if I ever get that chance.
heady storm
Wiki roles are kinda impossible to get right now anyway.
hollow shell
If you are looking to become a tester, I think starting by helping out in #bugs-read-pins is your best bet.
I don't know what that would entail, though. I don't go in there often.
Also, become a no-hitter. Like over half of our testers are no-hitters.
heady storm
Also, become a no-hitter. Like over half of our testers are no-hitters.
hollow shell
I was gonna add a to that statement but nah, it's just a legit truth.
foggy plover
(its true)
heady storm
I'm just happy we aren't trying to make the mod revolved around us. 
cobalt pewter
Also, become a no-hitter. Like over half of our testers are no-hitters.
rip garbage pc
proper grail
You can also get the donor roles for however much you pay. I'm staying at DoG for as long as I can to support the team. (Haha no hitting would be fun. I'm already a Death Defiled runner. It's only about 1000 times more difficult to nohit that XD. Still, that would be fun)
cobalt pewter
Can't even record for nohitting
hollow shell
Ah so you've already got some experience, you're on your way
quasi flume
I'm actually thinking of becoming nohitter
cobalt pewter
I'll start actively nohitting at the day I finally got a decent pc
proper grail
I'll start actively nohitting at the day I finally got a decent pc
Are laptops okay?
tired haven
Depends on what a laptop is
tired haven
mine is 7300hq + 1050 and it was passable, definitely could have been better
cobalt pewter
But as long as you can run the game and record smoothly, you're good
tired haven
but it was enough to nohit
cobalt pewter
Unlike me 
proper grail
I use the Lenovo Legion 5i and it handles Calamity like a boss no matter what I throw at it. Shredder and Infinity don't make a dent in fps with any kind of bullet
tired haven
except that one moment when DoG lags caused the game to run at steady 35 fps
Also neat
proper grail
It's a basic model lol. About $1400 but I got mine on some black Friday deals for 900. It's worth the money
And I already record for my other main game, Surviv.io
So yeah.
cobalt pewter
Good luck then
Anyway it's a bit offtopic now
Don't see any problems with the recent suggs
proper grail
Me neither, people are being sensible
sand umbra
@heady storm memeping (I picked a mod at random)
there are three (3) suggs from yesterday that are past the due time to be moved to voting, make it happen please and thank
heady storm
Alright then.
sand umbra
(and also my Waraxe sugg is like 3 minutes away from due so you can probably move that as well if you'd like)
cobalt pewter
Reword "Gives the player the tyrant's fury buff on enemy hits" on Tyrant Yharim's Ultisword and its upgrade to detail on the fact that the buff applies on true melee hits.
Just the title for now, this gud?
glass sentinel
seems alright
heady storm
Done, thank you for pinging me Thomas.
vital marlin
regarding waraxe nerf, why not just buff the other true melee broadswords? the true melee ones are obsolete before you can even think of obtaining them lmao.
glass sentinel
instead of buffing an entire pre boss- post early boss class we can just nerf 1 item
vital marlin
have you considered whether said item should even be nerfed when compared to the other items in the same tier (including other classes as well), and whether buffing a couple of borderline useless weapons is necessarily bad?
glass sentinel
it should
ive used it before
its pre boss and its actually really good
just bc not everyone uses it doesnt mean its bad
vital marlin
im not disputing that its effective, im just saying its not too good
its fine how it its
si*
is* lmao
vital marlin
just my take
glass sentinel
waraxe if from goblins
signal glade
was that the real crab bar that messeged here earlier?
signal glade
damn
glass sentinel
get your simping out now
signal glade
that is big bruh moments
anyways is spelunker not being hittable a good suggestion?
glass sentinel
wdym hittable
signal glade
remember the true eyes of cthulu?
glass sentinel
yea
signal glade
they are entities but they arent targettable
glass sentinel
wot
serene fox
what
glass sentinel
you know what spelunker is right?
dapper coral
do you mean hunter?
signal glade
wait
glass sentinel
dapper coral
...hunter?
signal glade
the worm enemy spawned by scal
serene fox
sepulcher?
dapper coral
sepulcher????
signal glade
HAHAHAHAH
dapper coral
this makes about 10000% more sense now
signal glade
iam bery stopid
hollow shell
Prolly should transfer the boldings over to to your approved suggs @heady storm
I know Thomas's Waraxe DPS of "74.3" was bolded
and the names of all the tested weapons were bolded
heady storm
Alright then.
signal glade
but anyways making sepulcher invulnerable rather than an entity that blocks every attacks of non piercing weapons would be great
glass sentinel
mhm
dapper coral
that's fine to suggest
signal glade
what
glass sentinel
the beams of the last prism and its upgrades will get deleted once they touch sep
or sw p1
signal glade
ill suggest it with a chance people would actually want it
serene fox
I don't think a single weapon pierces sepulcher
other than the wand's infernadoes
most weapons viable against SCaL can't pierce against Spelucher
so you can remove this part
signal glade
the celestus
serene fox
it does?
damn
oh yeah you could also mention how it fucks with beam weapons like yhermes and last prism
glass sentinel
and dark spark
cobalt pewter
Death to Sepulcher eating projectiles
sand umbra
re: Waraxe sugg
small thing. the one other thing bolded that matters was the DPS if you also add in War Cleave (95.7), and I do think that's important enough to warrant bolding since that's a massive boost
heady storm
Got it then.
hollow shell
👍 thanks
heady storm
Not a problem.
real steppe
about the summoner nerf flip..
I guess I wont be able to have summons as pets/guards when I afk should it got approved, but thats a small price to pay
whole sedge
just switch to a summoner armor
glass sentinel
which sugg is this?
real steppe
just switch to a summoner armor
wait, how can i had not thought of that before
dapper coral
glass sentinel
ah thanks demik
real steppe
One of the Sepulcher's purposes is to body block your weapons, right?
serene fox
think so
dapper coral
that's part of it, ye
serene fox
but it's more of a nuisance if anything
glass sentinel
i mean most classes can melt hearts
dapper coral
especially because unless you have a whole specialized arena, sep spawns are kinda random
serene fox
yeah it's easy to melt hearts, but it's when you get cucked by sep spawn is when it gets annoying
glass sentinel
melee- ataraxia, mage- yhermemes or void vortex, range- nothing rogue- dunno
cobalt pewter
make Sepulcher killable for Halibut-tier memes
glass sentinel
celestus
serene fox
range is magnomaly
cobalt pewter
Range is magno
And rogue can be celestus for spam, or final dawn's yeet on stealth
glass sentinel
range is magnomaly
watching demik, you cant call this melt
real steppe
is Photoviscerator the only option of Rangers vs SCal?
serene fox
that's on 30fps and he's holding back his dps 
real steppe
i would like to use Heavenly Gale since bows are cool
serene fox
heavenly gale kinda works
real steppe
but my frames tells me otherwise
whole sedge
magnomaly and h.g. can kind of work but photo just is too good to pass up imo
serene fox
I think it's getting nerfed (?)
dapper coral
soon iirc
next update i think?
byeah photo can hit almost 400k with full glass cannon gear, unrestricted
serene fox
good to hear
real steppe
so the damage is the only busted aspect of photo?
dapper coral
but yes, back to the other thing
basically sep is meant to block you a bit, but if you're unlucky you get blasted by sep darts and stuff before the real fight even starts
serene fox
requires basically 0 thought and gets absurd numbers
yeah
sep spawns can just cause hearts phase to last 10 seconds longer than it should
just depends on rng tbh
real steppe
I hate Sepulcher phases imo.. especially the second one
cobalt pewter
Yeh second one is already messy
Brimstone Monsters + Sep is definitely not a good combo
dense lava
ok
glass sentinel
and also thats a bug in mp
serene fox
also what does this mean
serene fox
oh ic
heady storm
Bug fixes are a don't on their own.
glass sentinel
mhm
ashen warren
hollow shell
haha
heady storm
heady storm
Suggest it Lorax.
heady storm
glass sentinel
hdhurdur_hug
dapper coral
btw i'm gonna approve Robert's sugg about toggling auric carpet now, there was some f*ckery going on where the original got deleted with not too long to go so basically it's been 12 hours since the "new" one which is actually overdue
heady storm
dapper coral
dere we go
heady storm
(How many times have I seen this kind of suggestion now?)
dapper coral
many.
heady storm
Wait what? What do you mean by that?
sand umbra
bluecheck cutoff is much further back than 2 weeks
heady storm
Have any been sent to the dev server though?
sand umbra
march 1st
sand umbra
I knew it was somewhere around that point and checked anyway
glass sentinel
🤦♂️
trail burrow
they should add a shadowspec toilet
glass sentinel
cool
dapper coral
please no meme suggs
heady storm
Yeah don't meme sugg please.
glass sentinel
the devs'll probably one up you with an even worse toilet
trail burrow
scal toilet
glass sentinel
lets stop
glass sentinel
oki lets stop
heady storm
Cease it now, last time we'll ask.
cobalt pewter
there should be a special warning role that disables access to sugg posting and discussion
heady storm
Suggest it if you really think so Feedza.
cobalt pewter
Probably, not now
trail burrow
scal toilet is a good idea though
cobalt pewter
I don't have any strong reason for it atm
ashen warren
and add
no
tawny garden
Lol 3rd resugg
heady storm
tawny garden
Those are rare
faint needle
Wait what server was alphi talking about
Peepo emotes are always fun to use and I'd like to have a bigger array of them
ashen warren
slippy's dream world
faint needle
Can you dm me a link
ashen warren
gladly
quasi flume
:suggestions:
lmfao
swift wharf
serene fox
summoner is kinda special
serene fox
there aren't any summon weapons for daed, perennial and scoria either
serene fox
summon weapons don't really fit with the whole ore thing
cobalt pewter
summon weapons don't really fit with the whole ore thing
Creativity is your only limit
serene fox
well yeah
but if anything, this would add an inconsistency with other ore types
not solve it
cobalt pewter
then give it to all ore types
serene fox
no
cobalt pewter
Too many auric carpet suggs as of late
serene fox
yeahhhh
cobalt pewter
Mhm
tawny garden
you shouldn't explode your sugg into two if they share the same point @ashen warren
ashen warren
the points are kind of separate though
tawny garden
either combine these suggs, or have the second one be independent
ashen warren
there
ashen lark
How bad is auric tesla being nerfed?
ashen lark
How bad?
cobalt pewter
Basically the dmg potential from set bonuses were tanked
So it focuses more on survivability now
ashen lark
Yea that's not too bad
ashen warren
...but youre no longer immune to debuffs
ashen warren
it was voted by people iirc.....
radiant meadow
stronger bosses are meant to be later in the rush
And other mod support is very unlikely
cobalt pewter
stronger bosses are meant to be later in the rush
Scal being before dog: bruhmentum
radiant meadow
The order was initially decided by voting
and then the bosses were balanced from there for the stronger ones to be later generally
tawny garden
well, theoretically this could be done
cobalt pewter
I wouldn't really mind for boss rush to be reordered every year or so tbh, would make boss rush a bit more interesting
ashen warren
yea
tawny garden
cause in fairness, what was voted on isn't what everybody thinks
and yeah, it gets outdated
radiant meadow
nobody wants to rebalance it all again either
ashen warren
I wouldn't really mind for boss rush to be reordered every year or so tbh, would make boss rush a bit more interesting
it would be good i think imo
cobalt pewter
And yes, boss rush order might be kinna outdated by now
Mayne reorder after Yharim idk
tawny garden
eh, if Boss Rush was rebalanced every year, you'd need to rebalance it only like
4 times
before the mod completely dies off
radiant meadow
Or it could be rebalanced like 0 times
cobalt pewter
ig ye
robust lava
But why do that
There needs to be a compelling reason as to why Boss Rush would need to be reordered/rebalanced
spare folio
My suggestion was made thinking that the player could make their own order at any time, at their leisure.
robust lava
Would that entail making the bosses you choose to fight earlier on weaker, or would the difficulty go up and down based on the order you picked
Because one of those options would take significantly more work than the other
spare folio
Well, personally, I'd try to make it as smooth of a climb from easiest to hardest as possible
Right now, due to the rush still being determined by the community's favorites, that difficulty curve is all over the place
robust lava
To me that seems like it would require a system to automatically balance each boss up or down depending on where you chose to place it in BR.
Which seems like a lot of work
spare folio
Maybe the stats for bosses could also be added? Like their HP, DR, defense, etc.
robust lava
The current BR progression ideally should be smooth. Sure there are some late-game bosses earlier on such as Profaned Guardians, and some early-game bosses later on such as Slime God, but their HP and Damage should be scaled so that each fight is more difficult as you progress.
At least, that's my understanding of it
spare folio
I think that's fine in a different case. I find Profaned Guardians to be easier than Slime God
But there's still some discrepancies
Like King Slime is always easy, so why is he not first up?
Why is Skeletron AFTER Skeletron Prime?
tawny garden
because the people voted so i the poll
spare folio
Yeah, the poll was for favorite bosses, not hardest
I'm not one to argue with that, but I'd just like the ability to rearrange that
And I don't see how it ruins the game, as it's literally the tip of the tail end of it
tawny garden
it's hard to balance
robust lava
I don't think anyone's saying it would ruin it lol
tawny garden
is the main and only problem
hollow shell
Nemesis you need to add an actual reason to your suggestion
You have "I'd really like", "I'd also like", "it'd be neat", "it'd do no harm", etc
Why do you want it, why do you think it'd be a good idea?
radiant meadow
There were 3 polls
and the results were averaged out
Difficulty, Best Design, and Favorite Boss
so there was difficulty factored in
spare folio
To answer both those questions, I think the best, non-biased answer I can give is so that the boss rush would allow bosses from other mods
hollow shell
What does that have to do with customized order
radiant meadow
except other mod bosses need to be like buffed and stuff
so the grand thunderbird doesn't get sent to the stratosphere
tawny garden
spare folio
That was just my personal feelings getting in the way, for the most part. Also, the order could also accommodate the difficulty scale with other mod bosses
tawny garden
tbh, this seems like an idea for a mod
hollow shell
If you want other mod bosses, you should be asking that Calamity adds Mod Calls / other internal compatibility that allows other mods to insert their own bosses into Calamity's BR list, with their own buffs set by the other mods
This isn't something that needs to be done on the player's part, nor should it
spare folio
So I should reword my suggestion then
cobalt pewter
Leviathan summon :echdemon:
spare folio
It is, but the arrangement of the boss rush order was the other thing
Should I just drop that?
hollow shell
You can make that a separate suggestion
and if/when you do, you need to provide some actual reasoning as to why it would be a good idea, instead of just "I'd like it"
(same with the other modded bosses in BR sugg, ya need reasons)
It'd be good to have those suggestions separate cuz they're two different ideas that people could want and not want, separately
dapper coral
fargo's does have a levi summon, but since crossmod compat is gone it'll probably go somewhere else
spare folio
My suggestion was just edited. I don't know if it even makes good sense, but I'm too tired to care at this moment. I'll be back when I'm rested.
hollow shell
Alright. Reasoning on this one could be more expanded (i.e. it'd make the boss rush be more representative as the send-off to your playthrough) but it's good so far
robust lava
Would the title need to be changed? At the moment it makes it sound like they want calamity to add the direct boss adjustments and such
hollow shell
Yeah something like "Allow other mods to add their bosses to the Boss Rush" would be clearer.
river glen
how would a suggestion about giving storm weaver resisistance to elemenetal disk
it can outright do 25k-30 dps, on the naked body
without even proper damage accessories
river glen
well
robust lava
Is Storm Weaver not supposed to delete the ele disks
craggy stratus
isnt that dps, acceptable on SW
dapper coral
that probably helps then
cobalt pewter
Only p1 sw deletes projectiles
cobalt pewter
SW literally eats sealed singularity's black hole
river glen
so it dosent help
cobalt pewter
dapper coral
isnt that dps, acceptable on SW
how do other on-tier weapons do against it?
craggy stratus
you used what variant of ele disk, rogue or melee
river glen
rogue
craggy stratus
hmm i only tested melee weapons on it
pulse dragon deal about 26k dps if align correctly
multilator deal about 30k
river glen
i guess not
craggy stratus
and auto reforge
river glen
oh well
sand umbra
byeah naked SW has 0 defense
so armor pen does nothing in phase 2
also 25k-30k is like. actually within the realm of reason for funny space worm
craggy stratus
hold on
craggy stratus
cobalt pewter
slong as you're planning to sugg, it's alright
jovial spire
tbh for melee sotmr weaver i usually use true tyrant's ultisword
craggy stratus
ig you can sugg to give SW massive resistance to stellar contempt
river glen
it already has?
craggy stratus
pretty sure no
craggy stratus
only take 20% damage from stellar
river glen
to try to put it in line with other storm weaver weapons
does that mean 20% less
soo 80%
bronze beacon
oh ok
wooden wedge
^ SIS's aren't allowed
bronze beacon
but what the hell am i supposed to do with the damm item ( i had a hecking sprite for it) but nvm looks like i just wasted my time
river glen
read the dam pins
bronze beacon
i did
craggy stratus
ig you can donate to make it a dedicated item
bronze beacon
but i was also thinking of upgrading it with dark sun same thing ( the name stats and sprite are done as well) i wasted 2 hrs godamm it
river glen
did u read the suggestiond donts
whole sedge
Read don'ts next time 
karmic iron
add zenith NOW
runic hound
I agree!! when does the Zenith drop?
1.4.1 is out, no need to worry about copyright laws
dapper coral
please don't meme here, 1.4 tml will come when it comes
karmic iron
meme?
i have waited 5 months for zenith
i have gathered all the materials
im just here waiting
rose jewel
I’d check tmodloader for progress the discord
dapper coral
well be prepared to wait for many more months, because 1.4 tml isn't coming any time soon
runic hound
tmodloader havent said anything on twitter since 10september, im loosing my patience
karmic iron
i will pay anyone 10 dollars that make a zenith mod
dapper coral
alright, this can stop now
rose jewel
Check tmod discord for updates on 1.4
runic hound
ill add a extra 5bucks
karmic iron
stfu Demik
tawny garden
stop
runic hound
demik zenith hater!
dapper coral
okay, cool warn for both of you
dapper coral
if you continue you'll be muted
karmic iron
ok sorry demik
tawny garden
nobody can make a Zenith mod
dapper coral
and now you're muted
dapper coral
we don't use f-slurs here
sleek turret
please, don't.
dapper coral
and you're muted too
hollow shell
Cool good
sleek turret
wooden wedge
kaizo's muted now as well (real))
I swear this situation where it looks like kaizo's gonna get muted has happened before
sleek turret
:boohoo:
wooden wedge
maybe with another person
dapper coral
sigh
near shuttle
they looks like a bunch of kids..
crystal iron
I kinda feel like my Sugg brakes a rule or two cuz changing boss is difficult idk ;/
Breaks*
Also idk my Sugg could well be a bug idk ;/
crystal iron
Rev
crystal iron
Ye that's what I was thinking it's kidna odd
hollow shell
You can keep it but, further discussion probably required
crystal iron
Ye thought so too
wooden wedge
a video of this would also help prove your point
crystal iron
I can't do that now
I've been grounded until tomorrow
hollow shell
ok
tawny garden
vital marlin
how do i know if my suggestion was looked at or not
hollow shell
which one
vital marlin
or is it temporarily in posting hell
hollow shell
Oh, it'll get posted to #suggestions-voting in like 16 hours
hollow shell
np
wooden wedge
tax evasion had it's moment in time in this server
if there were more variants I feel like it'd push it through the barrel down into the apartment floor below
frail mantle
exists
unreal viper
tawny garden
@worthy lintel is the original failure emoji
worthy lintel
you know what they say
if your variant has more likes than the original it's not theft
sturdy geyser
sour cat
gray nebula
normal people get to use the normal one thats already p useful
add 3048203 variations of feelsmeow
sturdy geyser
Iban is fake
gray nebula
craggy stratus
the reason i dont use amidasevasion is because it is at the bottom of the emote list
frail mantle
if we added fifteen hundred 
variants it'd just become the of this server
civic pond
sturdy geyser
understandable
tawny garden
make combination emotes a new thing
sturdy geyser
tawny garden
if we added fifteen hundred
@frail mantle
hasn't gone nearly as far as
radiant meadow
and it doesn't need to
whole sedge
Add 14,999 variants then
tawny garden
no
frail mantle
we don't need fifteen thousand variants of a single emote
tawny garden
hmm, there is OmegaFailure and hdflr
radiant meadow
And we don't need them here
tawny garden
these aren't good anyway, and true
hallow light
were unique modifiers for summon weapons already suggested ?
worthy lintel
kinda
tawny garden
yeah iirc
frail mantle
i believe so
tawny garden
t'was rejected iirc
hallow light
aw
worthy lintel
anyway, what could better than ruthless
when you have minions damage is everything
hallow light
It makes me sad to reroll my weapons to a mediocre modifier because the other ones are useless
quasi flume
Nobody cares about bloodfin being way too op?
worthy lintel
bloodfin is annoying to mass stack
radiant meadow
I fixed bloodfin
worthy lintel
and you can't use quick heal button
radiant meadow
if you mean the fact that it ignores potion sickness
radiant meadow
by fixing a typo
quasi flume
radiant meadow
dunno why Quick Heal wouldn't work with it though
radiant meadow
but it should be counting as a potion
ancient crow
maybe it's counting as a buff potion instead of a health potion?
robust lava
Did the other healing items get fixed like Red Wine?
hollow shell
@vital marlin "Hide of Terra"???