suggestions-discussion

[cobalt pewter]

Kamei was responding to a deleted sugg about Yanmei's Knife

[sand umbra]

oh wait what

[cobalt pewter]

Just check her msgs

[dapper coral]

well she quoted thomas

so somehow i don't think so?

[cobalt pewter]

[sand umbra]

according to YouTube statistics, they were quoting me, and I don't delete my messages

[dapper coral]

i'd check but mod bot is down

[cobalt pewter]

YouTube stats damnit

[sturdy geyser]

[cobalt pewter]

But alright, maybe I just woke up and confused

[sand umbra]

nice

[cobalt pewter]

[pine star]

[sand umbra]

anywho yeah I have fan ideas wiki scavenging to attend to, see ya

if anyone has any objections to that one other sugg I posted earlier today please yell at me thank you

[pine star]

You mean the Scoria one?

[sand umbra]

yeah that one

[sturdy geyser]

🙃

[pine star]

Are you sure about that?

Because they could have used it

How do you know

[craggy stratus]

are they asking to nerf the knife even more

ah

[dapper coral]

we don't need to restart this conversation, please

especially not here

[glacial kettle]

I don't think the knife needs another nerf

[pine star]

No

He wants to buff it

[heady storm]

The sugg was deleted, correct?

[dapper coral]

there wasn't a sugg in the first place

[heady storm]

Wait wha.

[dapper coral]

it was an obselete convo from the beginning

[glacial kettle]

I don't think there was a sugg directly correlated to this

[dapper coral]

for now, this needs to stop.

[pine star]

There wasn't a sugg

It involved classless weapons

[heady storm]

This needs to cease then, yeah.

[pine star]

Let's just say rage makes you insane

[heady storm]

Are you still trying to continue this LX?

[pine star]

NO

I just want to say why this shitshow happened

[heady storm]

Leave it be now.

[dapper coral]

you don't have to.

[pine star]

Ok

[glacial kettle]

Also, on a different note

I'm not sure how possible it'd be to flip fuel factory sprites

since they are also tile entities

[dapper coral]

i mean

[heady storm]

Why would you want to?

[glacial kettle]

it'd be a massive pain if they broke again and corrupted every world again

[dapper coral]

if you can flip an extractinator i don't quite see the difference

now if you can't, there's an issue

[glacial kettle]

This is only cause it would make builds with them look better tbh just an aesthetic change.

That's their reasoning

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[heady storm]

[cobalt pewter]

@heady storm ah, my bad on that chet, I mistook something

[glacial kettle]

I don't think it makes the sugg invalid. I just don't think it's possible and/or worth the effort.

[cobalt pewter]

So the convo isn't related to a deleted sugg at all

[heady storm]

That kind of reasoning alone can't stand is why I'm haging.

[glacial kettle]

More reasoning would be nice but I guess there's not really much you can say on why it can have a flipped sprite

[craggy stratus]

huh

i never saw the movement speed in ranger proficiency

[heady storm]

You would require more than that for sure, I'll make that affirmative.

[craggy stratus]

maybe i just ignored it

[glacial kettle]

ranger prof always boosted mvt speed

from day 1

[cobalt pewter]

[heady storm]

Oh and Feedza, you could just suggest a buff to proficiency bonuses, along with those possible additions.

[glacial kettle]

do prof bonuses really need a buff though?

[cobalt pewter]

I'm saying adjust in the broadest of terms

[glacial kettle]

it's already kind of like

free boosts

[cobalt pewter]

So that I don't need to split up suggs again

[heady storm]

They're not the most noticeable is the thing.

[craggy stratus]

but yeah, changing the movement speed boost to ammo consumption reduction is nice

[glacial kettle]

They're not supposed to be super noticeable

or else they'd be busted

[heady storm]

free boosts
Then why would this be an issue?

[cobalt pewter]

I'm not saying specifically to buff the bonuses, but mostly just adding or reworking stuff

[glacial kettle]

free boosts shouldn't be super strong

[heady storm]

Mmmmm.

[cobalt pewter]

Like replacing ranger's movespeed with ammo reduction

Since movement speed, major or not, is still useless

[heady storm]

That's only my proposal to your suggestion, otherwise it stands fine btw.

[glacial kettle]

movement speed does get a pretty hefty buff in 1.4 though

which is coming up soon (hopefully?)

[cobalt pewter]

I couldn't recall what happened with em

[glacial kettle]

(in 3 years?)

[cobalt pewter]

(soon™) (not clickbait)

That's only my proposal to your suggestion, otherwise it stands fine btw.

[glacial kettle]

movement speed bonuses are way more noticable in 1.4

[cobalt pewter]

Hmm

Though I guess I'll just keep the scope of the sugg to current tmod

[glass sentinel]

wait wot, calamity has minion crit at 4%

[foggy plover]

not anymore

[cobalt pewter]

Not anymore?

Was it changed in any way or?

[foggy plover]

yknow how the mp crit bug got fixed

the vanilla crit fix made by cal had to be removed to do that

so yea they dont crit anymore

[cobalt pewter]

What

Lemme just

Revise my sugg then

Also why isn't this info out

[foggy plover]

huh, nobody ever explained that?

wack

[cobalt pewter]

Don't recall so

[dapper coral]

i've heard that before

[cobalt pewter]

Even fab only mentioned specifically about mp crit bug on changelogs

[dapper coral]

perhaps you just weren't there when it was explained

[cobalt pewter]

I never heard prolly ye

[foggy plover]

basically uhh

fuck vanilla, and fuck mp

tldr

[dapper coral]

terraria bad™️

[cobalt pewter]

Isn't this common sense already

[foggy plover]

yup pretty much

[violet dagger]

tldr

red cant code

[glass sentinel]

sad

vanilla spaghet code

mhm, other than that feedzuh your sugg is really good

[cobalt pewter]

[rose jewel]

what’s spaghetti code

[violet dagger]

code that's hard to read and modify

[whole sedge]

Code so poorly or weirdly put together it basically could be compared to spaghetti

[rose jewel]

So extremely unconnected code

[violet dagger]

ye basically

[whole sedge]

Mhmm

[brittle nexus]

The equivalent of trying to count how many spaghetti noodles there are in one plate of spaghetti

[crude geode]

If anyone has any problems/anything with my suggestion just like ping me.

[coarse trout]

@crude geode Usually when farming, you have high spawnrates to the point that you ARE in a horde of enemies, and calamity has a lot of farming.
that's just from my experience

[pine star]

Yeah

Like with zerg potions or even farming nightmare fuel/endothermic energy

[cobalt pewter]

Hopefully Calamity would allow us to not be able to damage stuff like cysts and ??? on 1.4 with the critter book

But that's future content so yeah

[unreal star]

yeah that’d be nice

[tawny garden]

smh Feedza

future content talk

[pine star]

Yeah

[cobalt pewter]

[unreal star]

accidentally summoning the perfs when fighting stuff in the crimson is dumb

[pine star]

Or the hive mind in corruption

[unreal star]

ueah

[signal glade]

i dont know about you guys but i think the Gacruxian Mollusk is having too much fun

[craggy stratus]

fishing in the astral for a 7% chance drop

[signal glade]

My point its stupidly op for a early hardmode weapon

[craggy stratus]

is not fun

especially with the tile-ignoring probe

[signal glade]

i mean peace candles?

and you know luiafk?

[cobalt pewter]

shut, let me enjoy my mollusk in peace

[signal glade]

No

THE MOLLUSK HAS REIGNED SUPREME FOR TOO MUCH

[cobalt pewter]

If you really want to nerf mollusk, throw kill times

Simple as that

[signal glade]

no the homing

the homing is all i want for a nerf

[cobalt pewter]

Again, kill time is the staple for weapon balancing

[signal glade]

to make it more skill base than throw and nigerundayo

jojo reference

[cobalt pewter]

You can't even spell that right

Outta here

[signal glade]

sorry

[cobalt pewter]

[signal glade]

NO

[cobalt pewter]

Byeah

You'll probably need to be asked for kill time anyways

[craggy stratus]

isnt that make it, more skill based

[cobalt pewter]

I personally think Mollusk without homing would make it similar to Paleolith

So damage nerf could probably do instead

Usually, surefire homing would be balanced with less damage

[signal glade]

its either make is so that throw time is slower

but noooooooo

its the north pole but its homing

[cobalt pewter]

Again, similar to Paleolith if the homing is removed

Use time increase could work

[signal glade]

my point is nerf it

[cobalt pewter]

If you want it to be nerfed in general, sugg it with kill times.

How much should I tell ya this

[signal glade]

fun in death mode doesnt make sense

[cobalt pewter]

[craggy stratus]

kill times compared with weapon at its tier

[ashen warren]

may I suggest something like: change the entire nature of The Community so it has a huge crafting tree from start to finish instead of being an overpowered accessory that you can get pre ML and use it up til endgame, seeing it as a rare drop from an easy to grind boss is kind of disappointing + the accessory itself has no relation to the leviathan or siren

[cobalt pewter]

the sprite itself resembles something that would get me banned if disclosed

But anyway

[signal glade]

The community itself is powerful and just making it like the sponge doesnt make sense

[craggy stratus]

it been compared to HoTE more than often

[signal glade]

Its more of a reward and sure its a margarita but thats it the additional stat increase is not that big for me at least

[cobalt pewter]

Before .003 The Community was really only preferred to use vs Yharon I recall

But idk

Maybe with the buff it can be used much earlier

[sturdy geyser]

uhh

[craggy stratus]

@signal glade shitf + enter

[tawny garden]

I assume enter got hit too quickly

also sounds like SIS

[signal glade]

Sorry im really stupid

[craggy stratus]

now that i realize, why titanium railgun exist

[gray nebula]

slice of life suggestion

[signal glade]

i mean adamantium railgun could be awesome

[mossy badge]

adamantite

[signal glade]

but yeah if my suggestion sucks i didnt really think that one through

[mossy badge]

we dont wanna get sued

lol

[gray nebula]

it doesn't really suck tho

why is there a titanium railgun without an adamantite alt

[mossy badge]

^

so confused

lol

[craggy stratus]

i dont think add another railgun would be a great idea

[signal glade]

an alt not another railgun

[craggy stratus]

an alt yeah

[gray nebula]

either that or remove titanium railgun

[signal glade]

oh no

[tawny garden]

[mossy badge]

no

never remove that thing

its so fun

[signal glade]

because of a suggestion a gun will be removed

bruh

[craggy stratus]

remove adamantite

[limber ocean]

remove all normal ores, leave only the alts

does that count as a SIS?

tbh

I think it is

but you can just suggest "change the titanium railgun so that it's also craftable with adamantite"

[craggy stratus]

maybe change header "Add an adamantite variant of Titanium railgun"

[limber ocean]

and also rename it because a titanium railgun crafted with adamantite is

Idk what'd be better

add a recolor crafted with adamantite or make it craftable with either

[craggy stratus]

letting only a titanium railgun craftable with adaman is weird

[limber ocean]

like I said, the suggestion could mention that and say "rename the titanium railgun and make it craftable with titanium. making it only craftable with titanium adds a noticeable asimmetry depending on the ores you roll, and it makes a bad ore even worse by virtue of adding equipment exclusive to its alternate version."

like yeah, you can just fish for it

but fishing sucks

[signal glade]

i dont get it why are you'll arguing
MY SUGGESTION IS SIMPLE AS IT GETS if im being honest
Make it so that Adamantite can be crafted into a railgun

that's it

[frail mantle]

making titanium railgun adamantite too kinda wack cause then it'll matter even less what ore you get

[craggy stratus]

if you are suggesting adamantite railgun, it is just a copy of titanium one

[signal glade]

YES no stats change only the look and crafting receipe of it

[frail mantle]

adamantite has ion blaster anyway, so it's not exactly like there's a huge disparity between the amount of titanium craftables and the amount of adamantite craftables

[limber ocean]

isn't ion blaster craftable with titanium as well?

[signal glade]

titanium can be use for ion blaster

[frail mantle]

o

[signal glade]

jesus christ guys i just want the alt of the titanium you guys dont need to broaden up the problem

[limber ocean]

dude

[fossil finch]

Alt gun for adamantite, ok, but not a fucking recolor

[limber ocean]

why are you getting worked up

I agree

[frail mantle]

you don't need to get defensive just because we don't agree with what you're saying

[limber ocean]

I just think that maybe the wording could use some work, to make the sugg more agreeable and thus more likely to get approved

[signal glade]

i mean this conversation about an alt is getting too long

i mean sure dont agree but its simple as it gets an alt that is it

[limber ocean]

you don't want your sugg to be discussed?

[fossil finch]

It is cuz you are not editing your sugg or telling a reason why you won't

[limber ocean]

that's kinda counterproductive

[crystal iron]

I think ur overthinking it guys

[signal glade]

that's my point

any suggestion should be discussed

but we are overthinking it its just an alt to a gun that i think some people doesnt even use

[fossil finch]

Yeah people already discused suggs over yours, now we are discussion yours

[craggy stratus]

your sugg looks fine

[frail mantle]

it is indeed just an alt to a gun

[fossil finch]

The sugg is fine, but kinda lacks reasoning

[frail mantle]

but i'm stating why i don't think it needs an alt

[limber ocean]

the problem is that the sugg, written as it is right now, arguably breaks a couple of don'ts

[frail mantle]

in fact i have already stated why

[limber ocean]

I'm trying to figure out a way to word it such that it doesn't

because at its core I think it's fine

[signal glade]

i mean i said it from the start i didnt really think about this one its more of slice of life and if people dont want that then its fine

besides the railgun isnt that big of an impact if im being honest

[limber ocean]

reasoning that's only qol is a don't though

[signal glade]

but hey if we do get an alt (hopefully) life would still be the same

[dry latch]

I think you mean quality of life. slife of life is a genre

second, item variants with no differences are bad. just look at slime god's summons and several of the perf/hive mind drops. where's thomas when you need him

[pine star]

Idk

[limber ocean]

yeah

which is why I mentioned just making the railgun available to both

or failing that, make an adamantite alternative with different functionality, though that'd be more work

[dry latch]

yeah problem with qol stuff is that you gotta answer why this should be in calamity instead of being it's own mod

[sleek turret]

yeah

Why don't you use imkSushi's Mod?

[limber ocean]

an argument could be made that it introduces a noticeable asimmetry and makes an already bad ore even worse by comparison, by locking a good weapon behind its alternate version (which was already better in the first place)

[craggy stratus]

^

[dry latch]

yeah, but why calamity? you can download other mods you know?

[sleek turret]

yeah

[limber ocean]

because calamity is the mod that introduces the titanium railgun?

[unreal viper]

Yeah.

[limber ocean]

thus creating(/widening) the gap between the ores

[dry latch]

wait it does? haven't played vanilla in years lol

[sleek turret]

me too Gan.

[unreal viper]

It does.

Ore sets only have repeaters, spears, and swords.

[dry latch]

if that's the case, then just change slife of life to quality of life then

[cobalt pewter]

Yeah Titanium Railgun feels like a donor item

While being not at the same time

[limber ocean]

if that's the case, then just change slife of life to quality of life then
quality of life as sole reasoning is a no no

that's why I tried to argue for an edit

unsuccessfully, I might add

[sleek turret]

going to pay 50$ to Fab so we can get Adamantite Railgun

[cobalt pewter]

It's more of a consistency issue rather than Slice of Life nor Quality of Life

[sturdy geyser]

in my opinion, a better suggestion would be to redesign titanium railgun to not be part of the titanium set but a standalone weapon

[dry latch]

not really, the ores aren't expected to have the exact same stuff

[sleek turret]

but sure, to maintain the consistency from titanium and adamantite.

[dry latch]

^

[sturdy geyser]

this removes the issue of it being titanium exclusive and removes the issue of it feeling incredibly random and out of place

[cobalt pewter]

not really, the ores aren't expected to have the exact same stuff
Same stuff, not exactly, but at least a similar counterpart should do

[unreal viper]

Indeed.

[cobalt pewter]

this removes the issue of it being titanium exclusive and removes the issue of it feeling incredibly random and out of place
Then we should also suggest making Titanium and Adamantite spawn altogether in the same world because yes

[unreal viper]

bruh

[sleek turret]

titanium railgun is considered as a good ranger weapon, but remove the "titanium" part and make it a standalone weapon, and also re-disign it.

"railgun"

[sturdy geyser]

Then we should also suggest making Titanium and Adamantite spawn altogether in the same world because yes
meme

[unreal viper]

Instead we should make adamantite and titanium stuff more different.

[cobalt pewter]

Reworking Titanium Railgun's recipe and design would also work so that there's no imbalance with ore variants

[sleek turret]

yeah

[limber ocean]

sounds about right

[cobalt pewter]

There's no reason newer variants should have better stats than the old ones anyways

smh my head red

[sleek turret]

never make better variants of the original ones.

[limber ocean]

yeah, new stuff should increase gameplay variety, not reduce it

but power creep is a thing

[cobalt pewter]

This is why you revisit old and attentionless content in terms of balance smh

But it's getting offtopic

[sleek turret]

lets get back to the point.

[limber ocean]

sure

[cobalt pewter]

@signal glade I'd say make your sugg a less specific juuuuuuust a tiny bit my making the sugg focuses around "giving Adamantite a gun weapon that doesn't exactly copy tit railgun, but still bears resemblance somewhat", instead of straight up asking for an Adamantite railgun to counterpart tit's

[limber ocean]

that, or make titanium railgun craftable with either bar and remove the "titanium" bit from the name

[dry latch]

Or rework it to remove the titanium part

Yah

[cobalt pewter]

That could be a different sugg imo

Byeah

[limber ocean]

calamity does introduce the "any adamantite bar" crafting group, after all

[cobalt pewter]

Isn't that already a thing with vanilla?

Idk

But anyway

[limber ocean]

think vanilla stores them as separate recipes

[cobalt pewter]

I'm just giving feedback around the idea of the sugg, which is giving Adamantite a counterpart to Titanium Railgun

Reworking the railgun entirely is way out of the original scope of the sugg

But if anyone else wanna sugg it, sure

[dry latch]

I still say to remove the slice of life part. It doesn't really make sense

[cobalt pewter]

Yeah, that too

Making it consistency instead would make a bit more sense

[wintry field]

hi

[crystal iron]

This is completely irrelevant but all the other chats are full so my question would most likely get ignored

Is the drug shroom still a thing
Where calamitas was trippy but u had increased damage instead

[craggy stratus]

still a thing

[crystal iron]

K

[cobalt pewter]

Ye

[dry latch]

it's not even that. slice of life is a genre. that sentence makes no sense

[cobalt pewter]

LMAO

@signal glade read above

Byeah

[jovial spire]

yeah uh

it's quality of life

slice of life is something entirely different

[signal glade]

jesus like a said im stupid i just realized those two things are different

[agile cloud]

@upper sigil SIS

not allowed

[craggy stratus]

SIS yeah

[signal glade]

oh yeah what is SIS mean?

[craggy stratus]

specific item suggestion

[agile cloud]

specific item sugg

[upper sigil]

ooops

[craggy stratus]

read the pin before suggesting

the era of suggestion items is gone

[agile cloud]

yes

i remember when i was sugging those things left and right

[signal glade]

hmmmm is my suggestion specific if want the alt of that item?

[frail mantle]

not really

[agile cloud]

that

[craggy stratus]

not too specific

[agile cloud]

isnt it sort of though?

[frail mantle]

you're not specifying exactly what it has to be

[signal glade]

yeah it specifically targets an item to have an alt but at the same time it actually matters?

[agile cloud]

if its a counterpart wouldnt that be specific?

most counterparts do the same/similar things

[frail mantle]

well he doesn't specify exactly what the counterpart should be

[agile cloud]

true

still feels like a gray area to me though

[sand umbra]

personally I think it's fine

[robust lava]

Some level of specificity is unavoidable when suggesting something like a counterpart, but as long as it doesn't get into exact functions/names/recipe, then I feel it's far enough away from a SIS

[frail mantle]

i'm assuming he means just an adamantite railgun but he doesn't explicitly say adamantite railgun

[sand umbra]

^ (what mayo said)

[agile cloud]

rule sharking 100

tbh i do want that though

[frail mantle]

wouldn't even call it rulesharking

[sand umbra]

the counterpart doesn't even strictly need to be a railgun, just needs to be some ranged weapon that acts as a Railgun counterpart for Adamantite

[dry latch]

just remove the titanium part smh

[signal glade]

Jesus a suggestion for an alt created a loophole HAHAHA

[agile cloud]

basically

[sand umbra]

thaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat's suggestion rules!

[frail mantle]

the only thing he really specifies is that it's Adamantite

[agile cloud]

sugg rules are very well thought out and have no loopholes

[sand umbra]

anywho, this sugg to my understanding breaks no rules and as such I see no problem with it, moving on

[frail mantle]

i still wouldn't call it a loophole but aight

[dry latch]

Add more situations where hordes of enemies are more of a problem to the player
post ml ooa when

[signal glade]

no

[sleek turret]

ooa without sentries moment

[dry latch]

but seriously tho, don't we have a lot of events already?

[signal glade]

just no

[craggy stratus]

acid rain tier 3 and blood moon is the only relevant events post ML

[sleek turret]

acid rain, OOA, pumpking moon, frost moon, eclipse, blood moon.

[craggy stratus]

oh yeah

kept forgetting about those

[dry latch]

dungeon ain't an event but it does have a lot of mobs

[sleek turret]

frost moon & pumpking moon also are relevant post yharon-p1

[signal glade]

and they get buff so hard

acid rain, OOA, pumpking moon, frost moon, eclipse, blood moon.
@sleek turret

[sleek turret]

except OOA when post ml

[signal glade]

what is OOA?

[sleek turret]

Old Ones Army

aka; the """worst""" event on modded.

[signal glade]

oh right that event just gets left behind

[sleek turret]

you cannot beat OOA without sentries.

[signal glade]

in vanilla?

[sleek turret]

yeah, and also in modded sometimes

[dry latch]

Pre HM: slime rain, blood moon, ooa, goblin army and acid rain
HM: blood moon, ooa, goblin army, pirates, eclipse, martians, pumpkin moon, frost moon and acid rain
Post ML: blood moon, eclipse, pumpkin moon, frost moon and acid rain

where can you even fit another event

tho tbf the sugg isn't specifically asking for one

tho maybe they're just using situation instead of event lol

doesn't it go against the "no major sugg" rule?

[hollow shell]

You may have noticed
that all of the post-ML events are "again"s

[craggy stratus]

why is blood moon buffed after ML again

[hollow shell]

I think it used to coincide with something but doesn't anymore?

I'm not wholly against it tho cuz

it adds a threat to that point in the game

[craggy stratus]

i see

[hollow shell]

instead of just being paper

[craggy stratus]

but buffing it post providence would make more sense

since that when you get bloodstone

[hollow shell]

I suppose it would

[dry latch]

yeah I agree that stat boost rehashes are bad, but a wholly new event would go against the SIS and major work rules

[hollow shell]

Indeed...

[cobalt pewter]

Mfw Frost Legion is never mentioned in this convo

That's how forgettable the event is

[sand umbra]

yep. that is how inconsequential and obscure Frost Legion is

[dry latch]

I didn't mention it cuz it only gives snow

[hollow shell]

Frost Legion more like Frost Lesion cuz it's a gross blemish on this game

[sand umbra]

someday I will figure out what I want to do with Frost Legion

that day is not today but it will be someday

[toxic kettle]

infinite snow supply, I guess

[hollow shell]

well step one is to make it not holiday exclusive

[sand umbra]

of course

...that's about as far as I've gotten

[cobalt pewter]

I already knew a gist of what to do with Frost Legion on Nova Edge ig

[dry latch]

vanilla fixes that iirc

[cobalt pewter]

[sand umbra]

that and Snowman Cannon being moved there

[river glen]

wut do u mean

move there

[sand umbra]

these are the only two things I have for Frost Legion. how do you improve an event that's literally just fucking snowmen

[cobalt pewter]

I won't tell my way for now, but I'm definitely making it relevant

Anyway

[dry latch]

flavored snowmen? like different snowmen based on biome

[cobalt pewter]

The moon rematches definitely need to be a bit more unique

Instead of just haha stats go brr

[vocal grotto]

Add more festive elements, I say.
Like the dumb gingerbread men or smth

[cobalt pewter]

Or any vanilla events post ML

[vocal grotto]

Just snowmen is kinda bland anyway

[sand umbra]

at that point it's just Frost Moon but again though

[cobalt pewter]

There's a recurring theme with the event

Mafia gang of sorts

[brittle nexus]

Slap the snowmen in the frost moon and remove the frost legion. Santa just exists then

[cobalt pewter]

So yeah, build around that and it'd be hard to make it the same as frost moon

[sand umbra]

that is the other approach I've been considering

[glacial kettle]

do you mean remove the softcaps at levels 5 and 10?

Or do you mean like remove the cooldown which would make it build up way faster

[hollow shell]

Nah he means to make XP continue to go up even after you reach max level

but make it not do anything after that point

[glacial kettle]

oh

That could be clarified

[hollow shell]

I was also confused first time reading it

@left ice Do you think you could word it better somehow?

[glacial kettle]

especially when he says "keep the max level cap"

[left ice]

I'll see if I can come up with a better phrasing.

[hollow shell]

Thanks

[left ice]

Does that help any?

[hollow shell]

You could say in the top line that XP would be purely non-functional and just for curiosity/statistics sake

[glacial kettle]

That's better I think

[hollow shell]

so it's clearer what your purpose is

Aight, I think that's better

[worn blaze]

Anyone know if my being dash input sugg ever got implemented?

Just ping me if you find out

[tawny garden]

you can search it

just stick your user id into the search bar and search only in #suggestions-voting

it was not implemented @worn blaze https://discordapp.com/channels/225030931008847874/263382359397761025/710886671675293870

[worn blaze]

Big sad

[hollow shell]

However
Dashes are no longer visibility-toggled

They're now tied to this item:
https://calamitymod.gamepedia.com/Ball_and_Chain

[tawny garden]

yeah

[worn blaze]

Yeah I found that out

[tawny garden]

so it's kinda

indirectly implemented

[hollow shell]

That issue was the crux of a lot of dash suggestions

iunno how much it applies to this one

[worn blaze]

One day, I will be able to bind dash onto f12, one day

[tawny garden]

lol why

[worn blaze]

Fabsol told me he would bind his dash key to q, but I'd go with w since one of my fingers just sits on it with no function, anyways I hope the devs find a way to implement it because to this day I still die to dog because of dash fatfingering and almost burst a blood vessel every time it happens

[hollow shell]

@strange shell I assume you've already tried disabling Afterimages, setting Quality to Low, and turning Lighting to Retro/Trippy?

[strange shell]

i have not (i'm fairly new to modded)

[hollow shell]

aight yeah

[strange shell]

aha i found afterimages in the config

[hollow shell]

and, given that you used Prov and Cryo as examples, I assume you're referring to their aurora effects?
afaik those wouldn't be disabled by any of those settings but they're literally just moving PNGs so they theoretically shouldn't cause much lag at all

[strange shell]

ah

yeah i'm referring to the aurora effects lol

i'm also playing with about 10+ other mods on top of calamity

so maybe that's an issue as well

[hollow shell]

That's fine as long as they're all lil quality of life ones like Recipe Browser and Magic Storage

unless you mean 10+ other content mods like Spirit and Redemption and Thorium

[tawny garden]

I hope you don't have 10 content mods

cause that's fear

[strange shell]

i'm playing with 4 extra content mods

[hollow shell]

ah...

[tawny garden]

oh

don't

[strange shell]

thorium, fargo's souls/mutant and consolaria

[hollow shell]

Your poor computer memory

[strange shell]

yeah

[hollow shell]

Oh okay that's not terrible

Thorium is the most major one

Fargo's was designed to be used alongside other mods

[strange shell]

yeah thorium seems to be huge

[tawny garden]

Thorium is compatible mostly afaik

[strange shell]

3 extra classes that i'll literally never play in a rogue playthrough

[hollow shell]

lol

[strange shell]

it just means more money tbh

[hollow shell]

Thrower has some compatibility iirc

with rogue

[strange shell]

i think thrower would be like

more early on

[hollow shell]

In vanilla that's the case

Thorium makes it all throughout the game

[strange shell]

well yeah

i know the techniques have compatibilty

[hollow shell]

aight anyway

If you're keeping your suggestion around then you should make your topic line more specific to things that you know cause lag issues

[strange shell]

yeah, makes sense

[hollow shell]

like the auroras (if you have experienced lag while they occur)
and not just say "graphics changes" cuz that doesn't help much

[strange shell]

mmm yeah

well the game should run significantly better due to lower settings

[hollow shell]

ye

Disabling backgrounds works too as a last resort

[strange shell]

i have frameskip, backgrounds and blood/gore off lol

[hollow shell]

(I've heard mixed results from setting the lighting to Retro/Trippy instead of Color/White
In my experience it improved performance a ton, but other people say it had no effect or made them lag slightly more)

(which I assume is just because it's old poorly made code)

[strange shell]

yeah

[north plank]

Also playing in windowed

Auto is awful for for graphics settings, but white/retro color helps a bit with frames

[tawny garden]

hm

[hollow shell]

@crystal iron Isn't that just, like
the intended design of a lot of items?
Trade-offs?

[crystal iron]

Huh

[hollow shell]

i.e. all lore items, many glass cannon items

some items like Reckless and Precise gloves

[crystal iron]

Well I meant something like where u can change ur status manually
Something like the community maybe but u can trade some stats to get a specific buff for s specific clsdd

Class

[golden narwhal]

This could easily get overpowered

[hollow shell]

I am aware but like that seems a bit

yeah

Hard to design around

and a bit too meta

[crystal iron]

I can't include balancing ideas in my sugg

[golden narwhal]

Want to be a glass cannon? Trade every single stat for damage
Tank? Get all that defense and damage reduction

[crystal iron]

That's why it would be a minor change

[hollow shell]

(not "meta" as in like, it'd be preferred for the power players, although it would be.
I mean like, too outlandish in game design being able to edit your own stats)

[crystal iron]

It could potentially be an endgame item

Or pre scal

[golden narwhal]

Balancing is still a massive issue

[hollow shell]

Like, you could equip Heart of the Elements and get all of its minor stat boosts
but then you convert them all into damage
and suddenly it's the best DPS accessory in the game

[golden narwhal]

Balancing is definitely something that has to be included in the sugg, or at least ideas how it would be handled

[dense ferry]

My other Deus suggestion got stars really fast man

[crystal iron]

Maybe set a cap or smth
E.g. u can get a max of 20% damage boost
Or max life would be +50

Smth like that

[whole sedge]

Yeah this would be so easily abused as it'd make stuff with a lot of different small boosts massively powerful

[hollow shell]

Mmmaybe probably should mention how it could be balanced

[crystal iron]

Also if someone did decide to trade everything for power they would be weak on all other aspects

In*

[hollow shell]

Like, you need disproportionately more stats to convert into a lesser amount of your chosen stat

[dense ferry]

I just want to know how the fuck the programing to this thing would be

[hollow shell]

like 8 defense for +2% damage
and 8% damage for +2 defense, as an example

Or caps, those could work too

[crystal iron]

Ye

[golden narwhal]

(Just to clear it up, I'm assuming this isn't SIS?)

[crystal iron]

SIS is specific right

Just askin'

[golden narwhal]

SIS is an item generally with a name and laid-out function

[crystal iron]

That would be nice isn't a valid point

Oh

Well

[golden narwhal]

And items like that already exist

[hollow shell]

@obsidian iris There are three Lore items which do that

WoF's, Plantera's, and Polterghast's

and 1.4 will introduce an accessory which does it

[whole sedge]

@obsidian iris multiple of those already exist like polter lore plus multiple mods also do that.

[hollow shell]

(also Ceaseless Hunger potion if you're late-game)

[obsidian iris]

ok thanks for telling me

[crystal iron]

Also u can use loot magnet (luiafk)

If u want idk

[obsidian iris]

ok ill try it out

[hollow shell]

(also if you're wondering what an SIS is,
this is an SIS: https://discordapp.com/channels/225030931008847874/263382359397761025/604889027660873739 )

[crystal iron]

It drops from wof@obsidian iris

[obsidian iris]

@crystal iron ok ill get it then

[golden narwhal]

(So ... anybody gonna yeet the sugg, or...)

[hollow shell]

I'll do it

[golden narwhal]

[tawny garden]

https://discordapp.com/channels/225030931008847874/263382359397761025/605114809264111636 last allowed sis
fun fact

[crystal iron]

How did that Sugg get in voting
It's like wayyyyy to specific

[hollow shell]

Look at the sugg right underneath Helz Roller

[crystal iron]

The Providence rogue weapon

[tawny garden]

oh, its star was removed

https://discordapp.com/channels/225030931008847874/263382359397761025/605103858464587819 this one then I guess

and then the strawpoll basically repeated the Brexit referendum

[hollow shell]

cept unlike Brexit, it's near-universally regarded as a good decision in hindsight

[tawny garden]

yeah

[sand umbra]

me when one of the few SI suggs I made despite being p. old in mod time got in anyway

[hollow shell]

Aight anyway

Koora I feel like your suggestion could be valid but with some work-

oh it's gone

[sand umbra]

anywho yes hello what sugg are we yappin' about rn

anything in particular?

[tawny garden]

the one that was deleted

[sand umbra]

[tawny garden]

[crystal iron]

I thought u had to delete it when it gets an explanation mark

.-.

[tawny garden]

you either fix your sugg or delete it

you don't have to delete

[hollow shell]

Yeah it means you need to fix it

or that it'll get deleted soon

but usually the former

[sleek hornet]

Iirc there is someone suggested about life steal for ranger right?

[cobalt pewter]

ye

[whole sedge]

Someone did make a sugg about ranger lifesteal yeah, #suggestions-voting message

[dapper coral]

@tribal quarry this is a don't, you can't request death mode stuffs to be toggleable

i suggest you read the document in the pins that details what you can and cannot suggest

[mossy badge]

you can already toggle it

turn death off

[dapper coral]

this isn't really salvageable so i'm just gonna remove it ig

[cobalt pewter]

Reasoning can work, but yeah, the sugg itself is a don't

[dapper coral]

like, i get it? but it immediately goes against the rules of suggesting stuff

[tribal quarry]

oh well

ill have to make a submod to remove the death mode underground lighting thing then

[whole sedge]

Yeah or toggle it on and off

[tribal quarry]

you cant toggle the underground lighting off can you?

[whole sedge]

You can toggle death though

[tribal quarry]

but I want to play death..?

[whole sedge]

Yes then you can toggle it once you're done being underground?

[tribal quarry]

ah thats what you meant

[whole sedge]

Yeah probably worded it poorly

[tribal quarry]

icic thats a good idea

[dapper coral]

it's bootleg, but it works

that may be your solution, at least for now

[violet dagger]

Honey dispenser

Please don't remind me of what happened in wiki basic with that

[heady storm]

Wait what.

[violet dagger]

Scroll back a bit in there

[dry latch]

yea, no

read the pins please

[hollow shell]

@cosmic dune that's a Specific Item Suggestion
If you look at the Don'ts Doc in the pins, you'll see that suggs like that aren't allowed

[cosmic dune]

Ah okay sorry

[hollow shell]

You could make a more generally worded suggestion about a new item that grants immunity to explosions

[real steppe]

kinda late, but i definitely agree with the summon nerf being flipped

[hollow shell]

You just can't give it an exact name or stats

[cosmic dune]

Yeah well, sorry, didnt know. I'll make sure it doesnt happen again@

!*

[hollow shell]

Aight

[real steppe]

probably the best explanation why so far

[hollow shell]

Ah I'm happy that that suggestion is going successfully

I'll be glad to have the devs see it

cuz summoner balancing is a bit of a topic among the testers

[real steppe]

what is the aim of the summon penalty again?

Is it supposed to punish summoners who use non-summon weps, or is it supposed to punish non-summoners who use summon weps?

or both?

[hollow shell]

It's supposed to nerf multi-classing, using both summon weps and normal weps to achieve too high of a DPS

[sand umbra]

the aim is to generally make summon-based multiclass less broken

which is currently accomplished by making the summons deal less damage while you're holding a weapon from another class (tools, and classless weapons such as the Lunic Eye or Yanmei's Knife, do not trigger this penalty)

the issue, as I addressed in the sugg, is that this actually doesn't punish the other-class players much at all

while being a debilitating nerf to the summoner if they want to do something other than use the same five active weapons for 90% of their playthrough

and while those 5 active weapons aren't really unusable (although their viability varies depending on a variety of factors), having such a small selection really just

doesn't cut it.

[whole sedge]

(plus all 5 of them are kind of just support weapons hence them being classless except for the weird thing that's lunic eye iirc)

[sand umbra]

Yanmei's is apparently good? although I'll keep from saying anything on it

last time I tried to judge it I was swiftly informed that I had actually misinterpreted what the weapon did

(read: I thought Kami Flu spreads. it does not)

nonetheless, you get a grand total of 5 weapons...and also I guess Borealis Bomber?

but like even counting Borealis that's 6. that is not a very large number
and without some sort of active weapon, summoner very quickly becomes fantastically boring

[foggy plover]

summoner "nerf" should go both ways

[dry latch]

do sentries count as active?

[sand umbra]

sentry spam is an outlier and should not be counted

[foggy plover]

but both ways dont apply at the same time, have some factor like if youre wearing summoner armor summons do full damage but held weapons do reduced, and the reverse if you are wearing non summoner armor

[whole sedge]

Sentries are already freaky and ignored by calamity (cough OOA) so probably shouldn't really be counted towards this frankly as they're weird

[sand umbra]

having the summon crossclass penalty rely on whether or not you're wearing summoner armor just sounds like even more hilarity

remember: this is a mechanic that is currently communicated a grand total of nowhere in the game

at least if it only goes one way it's consistent enough for someone to figure it out with common sense

if it goes both ways have fun letting people figure that out without some way in-game to learn or looking on the wiki

[whole sedge]

please no more 5 paragraph long tooltips

[hollow shell]

Gotta slap an icon onto the screen

[dry latch]

what about rebalancing summons to only be useful when used with summon bonuses? like a minion that does 1 dmg but armors give 1000% dmg bonus

[hollow shell]

somethin like
[Sword] / [Pygmy Staff]
and have up/down arrows next to the one currently getting buffed/nerfed by the penalty system

[dry latch]

then slap the penalty on the armor too, just like how thorium does it for healers

[hollow shell]

Yeah more support-based summons could be neat

...

yknow what, you're right

We didn't need this gay-ass hold-out system
We could have just put the stat debuff on the armors like Thorium

[dry latch]

that way you guys can have variable penalties based on the stage of the game

instead of flat 50% dmg reduction all throughout. makes balancing easier

[cobalt pewter]

More Borealis Bombers (aka active summons that actually use mana) would probably be pogger for summoners

We didn't need this gay-ass hold-out system
We could have just put the stat debuff on the armors like Thorium

True

Honestly you can even treat summon armors like Prismatic armor

Probably the best example of "use this class or fuck off" armor

[real steppe]

is it possible to inflict Cursed Flames as a pure summoner?

[cobalt pewter]

Caustic Staff

[hollow shell]

Cau- yeah

(Caustic Staff did get nerfed btw which is good)

[real steppe]

was caustic staff OP?

[hollow shell]

Yeah it was

Inflicted 5 debuffs at the same time

for 3 seconds each hit

[real steppe]

oh

o h

[hollow shell]

Now it inflicts each debuff one at a time, and the duration varies randomly between 1 and 3 seconds
and, additionally, the debuffs don't get inflicted if you're holding any weapon that isn't a summon weapon

so it's not just the go-to universal debuffer for everyone

[real steppe]

sounds like a massive nerf but for good reason

[hollow shell]

Mhm

It's an early HM weapon after all
Just requires Cursed Flame / Ichor to craft

and Soul of Night

anyway
@gusty scarab Your suggestion is fine in concept but you could elaborate a lot more on what you mean. The wording is kinda confusing

The top line should definitely be changed to be "Allow the player to..." or something
and you should mention that you're specifically referring to the Melee/Rogue weapons, cuz iirc those're the only ones this applies to

[cobalt pewter]

and if I recall, aren't those weapons getting a substantial change?

But in the scope of current ver

Yeah that sugg is pretty fine

Just swapping them in the respective weapon crafting station (anvils, HM anvils, Manipulator, Forge) without needing anything would be coolio

Yeah that sugg is pretty fine
In concept, the wording is confusing, as rover said

[hollow shell]

Aight that's clearer now

Pretty sparse with the reasoning but it gets the point across

[cobalt pewter]

Yeah that'd make crafting stuff like Terra Disk easier, since it needs its materials to have the same type

So you don't grind extra and craft the wrong type again like I usually do

[whole sedge]

Yeah that'd be so nice to be able to change it back in forth as i always accidentally make the opposite variant of what i want

[tawny garden]

lol uhhhh

I don't think that's possible

And if it is, I'm pretty sure you'll need to do IL editing for it

These limits are hardcoded

[cobalt pewter]

[hollow idol]

[tawny garden]

@vocal grotto is the latest sugg even possible to do

[vocal grotto]

You could theoretically put the projectile in an entirely isolated area, but that would require IL Editing or otherwise cumbersome programming in the form of allowing the game to actually recognize this new, special projectile list.

But changing the size of the projectile array that the main game uses itself is infeasible

[tawny garden]

Ah

[cobalt pewter]

rip

[ashen warren]

Isn't there a don't about new difficulties, or am I mistaken?

yes i think

[crystal iron]

Well yes but it's technically not a difficulty
As it only majorly decreases sole stats l, it could as well be an accessory and it wouldn't really counflt as a new difficulty

Some*

[ashen warren]

it kinda would byeah

i think mods migth exist for that

[crystal iron]

Right... I tend to make suggs before doing any research

[ashen warren]

you could use the config to increase boss health by 30% and just not use an one accesorry

[crystal iron]

;(

Oh

U can

Well fair enough then

[ashen warren]

Right... I tend to make suggs before doing any research
That is generally a bad idea

[crude geode]

I sometimes feel like community...should generally be changed. It just feels problematic, as it’s an accessory that you can generally just slap on any build, in any playthrough, at any time. It’s sort of like how legendary weapons were boring Bc they could be used throughout an entire run. Community is slightly different Bc it’s an accessory, and generally acquired later in the game...but it’s still similar enough that it might bring up the problem.
Plus there’s always going to be people having problems with farming community...which is annoying, but frankly it’s something that is always useful, unlikely farming for legendary weapons.
I also just feel like the name of “The Community” is kinda eh. Just doesn’t sit right with me.

Actually, looking at the effects, it has a bit of a preference towards melee??? With melee getting the bonus of melee speed in addition to the effects the other classes get. (Summoner gets minion knock back but they also don’t get crit chance so)

[cobalt pewter]

I'm down with making one bonus flexible to classes

Tbh

e.g. melee speed replaced with stealth regen when holding a rogue weapon, summon knockback when holding a summon weapon etc

[crude geode]

(Oh yeah this suggestion makes sense btw, player info. )

[pine star]

That said, nothing changes summon crit

It will always be 4%

[cobalt pewter]

Because summon crit was actually yeeted

[pine star]

And I agree with Feedza

[cobalt pewter]

The crit bug in mp cannot be fixed without removing the summon crit altogether

[pine star]

Like melee speed=chance to not consume ammo=mana usage reduction=minion knockback=rogue stealth

[tepid root]

summon knockback

[crude geode]

I’m p sure it was like that at some point, with something giving to each class

[tepid root]

the most useless stat

[pine star]

Can't do anything else to summoner though

[crude geode]

summon knockback? Don’t you meant knockback?

[pine star]

Because you can't change summon crit

[cobalt pewter]

Tho tbh

Some slots at certain points wouldn't hurt

[crude geode]

^

[pine star]

Yeah

[cobalt pewter]

Maybe 3 at most at endgame

[crude geode]

Proficiency already gives slots to summoner, so like...

It’s not that big of a deal, especially for an accessory.

Byeah uh Community is very weird imo.

It’s sort of just slapped on Anahita and Leviathan.

[cobalt pewter]

Again, lack of actual stats for summoner

[pine star]

That said, I don't know which boss the community likes the most

[crude geode]

Who knows.

[cobalt pewter]

Probably dog bcos w o r m

[pine star]

But DoG already has discharge

[cobalt pewter]

Yee

[pine star]

Also about your organic/inorganic sugg, iirc the sound on hit is what makes the difference.

Which leads to weird shit like Scal being inorganic

[crude geode]

I really dislike community being a rare drop from siren and leviathan Bc it...just is very odd and against most other acc obtainment methods (crafting together other accessories, or a guarantee from bosses)

[cobalt pewter]

Sounds can be deceiving at times

Especially on the case of hit sounds

That said, direct information is always better for cases like this

[pine star]

yeah

[crude geode]

For sure

[cobalt pewter]

plus I never seen myself using any of the limited-ammo / limited-use-in-boss-fights weapons because of the ridiculous amounts of limitations on them, but qol is qol

[pine star]

Yeah

Also some of the Draedon weapons care about organic/inorganic

[cobalt pewter]

Yeah I mentioned them

Pulse Pistol

[pine star]

yeah

But to be fair, not all of those weapons are limited ammo

Like the Pulse Pistol you mentioned

[swift wharf]

what if

when a weapon that does more dmg to inorganic/organic

made a sound

[cobalt pewter]

That's not a bad idea

[swift wharf]

when you hit an inorganic/organic target

like pulse pistol would make that metal noise when you shoot destroyer or smth

[cobalt pewter]

And I mentioned "a way" in the broadest of terms

[swift wharf]

there are some enemies that make ''organic'' sounds that are inorganic

[tawny garden]

[[List of NPCs by Hit Sound]]

[red storm]

https://calamitymod.gamepedia.com/List_of_NPCs_by_Hit_Sound

[tawny garden]

yeah

[swift wharf]

i actually read that lol

[cobalt pewter]

"ingame way"

[tawny garden]

dedication

[cobalt pewter]

Terraria is bad enough that it's basically wiki heavy if you want a proper pt

[tawny garden]

funny thing is

not only is Terraria wiki-heavy

but the wiki is also heavy by itself

[swift wharf]

also why the fuck is angry dog inorganic (its also organic) but why inorganic

[cobalt pewter]

smh

[tawny garden]

we crashed the whole entirety of gamepedia

several times

cause terraria wiki is so heavy with knowledge

[cobalt pewter]

What the fuck lmao

That's top tier

[pine star]

Lol

Also why is Scal inorganic

[swift wharf]

stone

[pine star]

Also Giant Clam is inorganic

[river glen]

@ashen warren the weapons are craftable

they arent that much of a pain to farm

[fossil finch]

He does mention that and they are still kinda painy to farm tbh

[river glen]

if ur going that specific class

u should have those weapons

aquired sometime in your playthrough

[fossil finch]

It's not cuz of the exo wep needed, it's cuz the shadowspec you need

[hollow shell]

@cobalt pewter You could prolly say what Stellar Knife's stealth strike is in the sugg so people don't gotta look it up if they don't know

[crystal iron]

this isnt a sugg but im most likely gonna get an answer here. basically i just started learning coding so i wanted to know how complex it is, and if u need c# or c++ to make a terraria mod

ik its very hard but i just want to knoe exavtly how hard from 1-10

my guess is around 9 but idk

[hollow shell]

C#

is Terraria

(XNA)

And uhh if you have no programming experience then yeah it'll be hard to learn all the ins and outs before you start working with Terraria/tModLoader language

But if you do have programming experience then it won't be that bad

[tawny garden]

I don't envy someone who started programming by moddin terraria

[crystal iron]

oh no im not starting by modding terraria

thats a dumbass idea

[crystal iron]

my keyboard doesnt have the other slash wtf

[white mountain]

im considering doing a suggestion about a New class

called "tank" what is essentially a really high DF but low damage class

[cobalt pewter]

Too much work

Plus you can already stack defense and DR

[dapper coral]

new classes ain't allowed, ye

[cobalt pewter]

I'm actually trying to make stealth rogue a proper alternative to spam rogue, but I guess it'd be too much work

Either way yee

Just go melee if you wanna be tanky

And stack on defense and DR

[river glen]

can I just post something about life steal give high regen for a short period of time instead of giving life steal since its hard to balance

without making it very bad while life steal carries it

[hollow shell]

You.. could make a suggestion about that

[dapper coral]

didn't something like that just go out

[hollow shell]

For Vampiric Talisman specifically.

[dapper coral]

oh, yep

[cobalt pewter]

I think I made something like that for Vamp Talisman specifically

But turning lifesteal in general into that

Ye prolly

[river glen]

yee, my thoughts are how overeliant some stuff are

like vampire knives

spectre hoog

hood

and illustrus knives are only good because of it

[glass sentinel]

i mean the word 'lifesteal' is stealing life

not like regening

[river glen]

but then, making something reliant on it is kinda bad

whatever then

i guess

[glass sentinel]

but i like the sugg

it just doesnt fit the name

[river glen]

i wanted to make weapons

have life drain concept

because its more managable to balance

[glass sentinel]

thats fair

[river glen]

because rather than nerfing life steal all together, u can nerf / buff the regen

of that weapon

[glass sentinel]

mhm

sooo

lifesteal should scale

i mean it kinda does

[river glen]

it kinda does

later in the game

[glass sentinel]

yea

[river glen]

u get faster weapons, that do more damage

[glass sentinel]

illustrious knives steal more life than other

[river glen]

yeah

[glass sentinel]

lifesteal is just hard to balance

considering it depends on so many things

[river glen]

i figured

on how buffing knives

buffing hood

and making them less reliant

but that wont do jack

when there are better options

if u want lifesteal u go hood

dmg u go mask

[glass sentinel]

i mean people will always find a way to ruin lifesteal

[river glen]

vampiric talisman is very op because of its lifesteal

and lasts till yharon

[glass sentinel]

i mean vamp talisman in d mode heals for like 1 hp

per 60 dmg dealt

[river glen]

i mean

when ur at dog/yharon

[glass sentinel]

but with 100 percent crit you are invulnerable

[river glen]

ur doing 600/100

1000*

it scales

yeah

[cobalt pewter]

but with 100 percent crit you are invulnerable
nervously chuckles in Dark God's Sheath

[river glen]

huh

dam

it gives 100% crits to stealth

i really dislike how life drain concept of draining life is so underused

like it makes it so much more balancable

[sand umbra]

that guaranteed crit for stealth strikes carries over to Eclipse Mirror btw

[cobalt pewter]

Yes

Henceforth

Broken

[river glen]

yeah

[cobalt pewter]

Honestly tho, at some point your listed stealth crit will be over 100% anyway without sheath

The acc just puts it to 100% regardless

[river glen]

rogue has so much crit

at dog u usually have 80-90%

[cobalt pewter]

So you can focus more on dmg

[glass sentinel]

anywhozle, have there been many suggs to making draedon remote like drop something

[river glen]

its pretty useless

should be something achievable

[cobalt pewter]

I think?

[river glen]

for doing it

[cobalt pewter]

I see spawning Mecha Mayhem thru the remote as basically BR

Challenge with no tangible rewards

[river glen]

maybe make it so you can get a special weapon for doing it

[glass sentinel]

i wantedd to sugg like make it drop rare items more often

or something

like in rev and death it has a higher chance for rare items to drop

[river glen]

well, not everything is common rarity

like i farmed for halibut for three straight hours

with fargo loot mod

[sturdy geyser]

wulfrum boss

[hollow shell]

@subtle thicket Boss suggestions aren't allowed

[subtle thicket]

what a moment

[hollow shell]

This really is a moment

[subtle thicket]

well wulfrum crap is useless

literal trash roombas and they still show up post ML

[hollow idol]

Basic material would get a miniboss at the very most, not a full on boss

[subtle thicket]

I mean a miniboss would still be cool

as of right now they have zero lore, they kinda just exist

[hollow idol]

they could probably use some kind of lore since there is clearly something going on with them, but not really a priority

[hollow shell]

Wulfrum Pylon is kind of a mini mini boss

[subtle thicket]

wulfrum pylon you just stand away and smack it with the rotted fork

and it takes like 5 seconds

[cobalt pewter]

Hot take

[heady storm]

Well fuck, I did that an hour prematurely.

[cobalt pewter]

Wulfrum stuff can just be gone and nothing will change in the mod.

aside from Crystalline

[dry latch]

there's no star

[heady storm]

[tribal verge]

Is there even a point to the wulfrum stuff

[cobalt pewter]

Honestly imo na

You can get whatever early armor you can have pre boss

And not even care about wulfrum

Tbf crystalline needs Wulfrum Knives, but the recipe can be easily changed

[real steppe]

wow, the summoner nerf flip suggestion already have 200 stars

that's quick

[unreal viper]

Good sugg

Shame it’ll probably get stuck in sugg purgatory

[cobalt pewter]

Thomas' sugg finally got delivered after a while