suggestions-discussion

[radiant meadow]

greater than 50%

[copper turret]

I tried using it on SCal when she was full hp and it did like 60 dmg or somethin' which is the butcher

[radiant meadow]

Rover just checked source

[tawny garden]

that is inaccurate

[radiant meadow]

the wiki is likely slightly out of date

[tawny garden]

not anymore

also, if it did only 60 damage that means she wasn't at full HP

[copper turret]

well then scal would still be able to be 2 shotted by a 3,999,999 dmg weapon

[tawny garden]

cause the anti-butcher sets damage to 0

not to 60

[crude geode]

Just gonna put this here in regards to I hate sand’s suggestion #suggestions-voting message

[cobalt pewter]

It's just gonna be a bluecheck then

[crude geode]

Yeah

though the unique drops thing is something different I didn’t mention. Might need to go in a separate sugg but unsure

Also iirc you do get a small amount of darksun fragments from any solar enemy after you’ve beaten one buffed mothron

[violet dagger]

I agree with the linked thing

Like mfw mothrons shouldn't be able to do more dmg than a dragon

[crude geode]

Actually no it’s just a chance of other enemies dropping darksun fragments

Mfw when a scarecrow does half my health as a summoner

[violet dagger]

[heady storm]

Become the ultimate shard of glass.

[sleek hornet]

#suggestions-voting message why is this messege different?

[radiant meadow]

Because Demik ported it manually

The bot was briefly down

[sleek hornet]

oh.. i see, ok

[vagrant elbow]

You ought to edit your suggestion with that stuff I brought up earlier

EDIT: Not SCal and Yharon, turns out those were different from what I thought. Just elaborate more on your reason about how Vehemence is designed to be a butcher and should therefore be excluded from the anti-butcher.
@hollow shell i see

[hollow shell]

mhm, so just expand on your reasoning. It's too small currently

[obsidian heron]

Overhaul the Astral Underground

[unreal viper]

Good idea

Add some reasoning and now we’re talking

[violet dagger]

Will happen some day

Soon ™️

[obsidian heron]

I wanna see an astral mimic this

*tho

Why have someone compose an 8 minute song for a zone that has nothing

[sinful violet]

Oh so the butcher was updated yeah

[earnest cape]

oh did the sugg bot didn't work for my sugg?

[dapper coral]

yeah it got borked briefly

[earnest cape]

oof

[dapper coral]

technically your sugg was many hours overdue so i just did it

[earnest cape]

ah thanks

[dapper coral]

but amber fixed it up which is why the other ones after that are fine

byeah sorry it looks weird lol

[earnest cape]

nah I don't mind

was just surprised to be pinged from the clam discord server

[hearty yew]

have we already explained that we just buffed squirrel today

cause we did

i assume ben explained this

looks like ben didn't explain

well!

[dapper coral]

don't think so, ye

[hearty yew]

@gusty scarab You're in luck. Ben has already buffed squirrel.

It is now much more accurate.

( it still glitches around but it hits enemies reliably at least )

fastest flag ever amirite? it's almost like you have precognitive powers or something

@hollow shell not sure what you want to do about this

[dapper coral]

well it was written yesterday

it got put into voting today

but yes, same difference

[radiant meadow]

It was after the suggestion.

[gusty scarab]

wow

[hearty yew]

Oh am I just stupid?

[gusty scarab]

that was impressively fast

[hearty yew]

Well, you did do it either way, so my point stands

[radiant meadow]

I did it more because of the starter bag talk though.

and an excuse to clean up squirrel code a bit

[hearty yew]

which you did a good job on

i saw that

[foggy plover]

[radiant meadow]

The only thing I did was reduce their cone of inaccuracy

[gusty scarab]

there still is a bit of a void between Frost Blossom/ Wulfrum Drone and Stormlion/Belladonna, but this makes things much better for pre boss summoner

[hollow shell]

Well if the buff happened after the sugg then
yeah, that's a flag

[serene fox]

I really wouldn't call hellstone sparse

at all

[ashen warren]

changed it to say limited instead

[serene fox]

alright

[sleek turret]

let me check something about the brimstone crates suggestion

[ashen warren]

been in there for 2 weeks

[serene fox]

I still don't think it's necessary but ig the sugg is fine

[dapper coral]

from a crate ore or dropped by

[sleek turret]

hmm, the brimstone crate sugg didn't get approved yet

so it seems fine.

[dapper coral]

it's approved, just not implemented

so it would be a bluecheck

which is fine

[sleek turret]

seems alright then

[gaunt quest]

I mean hellstone isn't hard to get lots of lol but another way to get it sounds intresting

[sleek turret]

yeah

[radiant meadow]

Hellstone is very abundant.

[ashen warren]

I may or may not have run out of hellstone in a world at one point

[radiant meadow]

Exactly wtf did you do to run out?

Craft 200 pickaxes?

[ashen warren]

Collected a lot of copies of every item

a chestful, to be precise

[radiant meadow]

why

[ashen warren]

I was bored

but now I want to finish the collection

[radiant meadow]

Then just generate a new world at that point.

There's more hellstone in one world than there is of any other prehardmode ore.

[ashen warren]

But it feels more organic to use one world

[radiant meadow]

I don't think your hording tendencies are an excuse for us to add a way to get more hellstone.

[ashen warren]

still, everything else can be farmed infinitely

[ashen warren]

gonna need to have better reasoning, that kinda is personal preference

[radiant meadow]

You should also attach a picture

So people understand what you mean

[hollow idol]

“personal preference” I mean, holding something like this isn’t exactly normal to say the least
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/316285389310525441/759981119797198888/unknown.png

arm clipping through the weapon

[hollow shell]

@gusty scarab Add image.

[radiant meadow]

Arn clipping is just Terraria layers

I doubt you can get a good position without arm clipping

[hollow shell]

Bonus points if you photoshop the correct holding

[gusty scarab]

do you have a sprite of the guy holding a gun with no weapon there

just the pose?

[hollow shell]

No but I do have the guy itself

[gusty scarab]

i'll just rotate his arm with placement magic

[heady storm]

Should also name your title appropriately imo, and yeah reasoning.

[hollow shell]

Top lines usually have the proposed change within them yeah

[gusty scarab]

wait still a bit off

[hollow shell]

That's good ye

Thank you

[gusty scarab]

now he's using the thumbhole and grip

instead of whatever he was doing before

[sharp ibex]

to me I've always thought that weapon would look better if it were the other way around

the black part looks more like a barrel

and the orange part looks like it would be the side facing you

[chilly solstice]

Now that I think about it, the mirrored sprite would be cool for a normal gun, not a star-spewing behemoth, because of the "barrel" part it should be shooting really fast

[dapper coral]

the sprite is pretty much the same as the norfleet in borderlands 2, where it comes from

except it's backwards

so the black part is actually the barrel

in that game

[chilly solstice]

Lol didn't know.
Now the barrel looks like a giant magazine that holds stars

[hollow shell]

I don't think that's correct Demik

[dapper coral]

i thought that's what we just said?

...oh wait, guns point the other way in borderlands

f*ck

[hollow shell]

mhm

[dapper coral]

ignore me, i'm actually dumb

[hollow shell]

It's fine, a lot of other people think it's flipped

[tawny garden]

Isn't the latest sugg in voting a bluecheck

[hollow shell]

I'll check

[tawny garden]

Spider made a similar one

[hollow shell]

Yes

about 3 months ago, so, ye

[earnest cape]

Any opinions on my suggestion?

[fringe cloak]

@earnest cape just use zerg potion while fighting anahita, leviathan wont even spawn then due to NPC cap

Dont think its needed

[earnest cape]

but

arma is on

I think that would just make the fight a lot harder

[fringe cloak]

You could use waterwalking potion, and stand on the water, stuff dont attack you then

[earnest cape]

and I'm using the strange pearl from fargo

hmm

[fringe cloak]

But the spawn time is pretty small anyway

[earnest cape]

faster would be nicer

[fringe cloak]

Like around 3 secs

[earnest cape]

the first time it would be like 3 sec the fights after that should be way less

[hollow shell]

I uhh I don't think overloading spawns with Zerg to hit the NPC cap is very good advice, Arko.

Also Misfortune I'm not too sure what you mean by "spawning time"?

It'd help to explain what that means in your sugg for anyone who doesn't know

@earnest cape

[crude geode]

farming for the community
I see the problem

My guess would be how long it takes for the rare ??? Enemy to spawn in the ocean but like...it doesn’t take that long, if you’re just farming casually with Zerg pot/chaos candle.

[serene fox]

I think they're referring to when leviathan spawns in the fight

when anahita reaches 40%

it does take a while for her to become vulnerable

[crude geode]

Oh is there some new animation I’m not aware of?

Ahhhhh

@earnest cape I would probably change lspawning time” to “invulnerability frames when it spawns”

[earnest cape]

ah okay thanks

[hollow shell]

The top line still says "spawning time" @earnest cape

[earnest cape]

Oh

it's invulnerability time for me

how's now

[serene fox]

still says "spawning time"

[hollow shell]

The top line. The one in bold.

[ashen warren]

yeah

[hollow shell]

...

[heady storm]

Discord doing a funny?

[ashen warren]

nah

i refreshed and its still the same

[heady storm]

[hollow shell]

@earnest cape

[earnest cape]

ohhhhhhhhhhh that

[ashen warren]

yes

[hollow shell]

aight thank you

[earnest cape]

shouldve said that line earlier lol

[hollow shell]

I did

[ashen warren]

[earnest cape]

sorry I'm blind

sorry I'm blind

[hollow shell]

m, it happens

[earnest cape]

thanks for pinging me

[hollow shell]

np I guess

[tawny garden]

Btw

Pupseal's images aren't gonna embed with their sugg when it goes to voting

Because links aren't processed in those rich embeds

[heady storm]

I must watch it for a bit then.

[ashen warren]

proceeds to watch a channel for 21 hours

[tawny garden]

[tawny garden]

@hollow shell is the borealis bomber sugg a bluecheck?
It should be in accordance with rules, however if it is a bluecheck it will immediately be doomed, cause the previously made sugg was rejected

[hollow shell]

@crystal iron Your sugg needs to be formatted properly, with main idea at the top on a separate line (shift+enter) and reasoning below

[crystal iron]

Ah

K

[hollow shell]

And, sprite detail has nothing to do with lag

They're just moving PNGs no matter how simple or complex they are

[crystal iron]

Ye I thought so

But anything that would reduce lag

[shell lynx]

Would reducing the animations help?

[hollow shell]

Probably not

[ashen warren]

probably to do with your system

[shell lynx]

Like frames in a sprite animation

[hollow shell]

Highly doubt it

[crystal iron]

Maybe reduce unnecessary entities

Cuz it think they're the main source of lag

[hollow shell]

Main sources of lag are lighting, excessive objects (dust, projectiles, NPCs, maybe afterimages), and shaders if you're on Color/White light settings

[ashen warren]

also a bad pc too imo

[hollow shell]

well that goes without saying

[shell lynx]

Schrödinger's entities

If it’s off screen it exists and doesn’t

[crystal iron]

Would it help if u sent my pc specs

I*

Or smth

[hollow shell]

uhh I mean, iunno how we would use that info

[shell lynx]

I think at that point a different channel would be better suited to help you

[hollow shell]

Maybe?

[ashen warren]

can you explain when it lags?

[crystal iron]

Usually with big bosses as in like Providence
Yharon
Scal
Dog
Then I just get frame drops randomly

[ashen warren]

high amount of projectiles

[crystal iron]

Ye u thought so

[hollow shell]

If you haven't tried Retro/Trippy lighting then maybe do that, cuz that gets rid of screen shaders

[crystal iron]

So idk the solution could be like
Less but stronger projectiles idk
Maybe remove some entities

(I'm always playing with retro on/low quality/and visuals off

[hollow shell]

aight

[crystal iron]

By visuals I mean
Storms water and stuff

[cobalt pewter]

Dust

And Anti-Lag mod already allows to reduce dust

[crystal iron]

(Bg off doesn't help so I just have it on)

[hollow shell]

That exists?

[cobalt pewter]

Plus usually the thing that devours the most performance is music mod

[crystal iron]

Ah

[cobalt pewter]

That exists?
That exists indeed

And I am using it

[crystal iron]

That actually could be it since I heard that it consumes a ton of ram or smth

[hollow shell]

Why would music mod devour performance, wouldn't it devour memory?

[cobalt pewter]

Ah

[hollow shell]

You can try disabling that too I guess, if you're desperate

[crystal iron]

Ye I think I will

[cobalt pewter]

My head is in shambles doing emode atm

So expect some brain farts in the future

[crystal iron]

Well thank u for the suggestions I'll make sure to try them

I'll tell u later (if necessary)
If it helps although I don't think there's anything else beyond that that would help more

[cobalt pewter]

P.S.: I'd only reduce dust with Anti-lag mod instead of removing it entirely, since many weapons rely on purely dust as their projectile (e.g. Pulse Pistol)

[crystal iron]

Ah kk

Btw what does "dust" even mean and what does it do

[hollow shell]

particles

[crystal iron]

Oh

[hollow shell]

Terraria just calls em "dust" internally

[crystal iron]

Oh k

Do I just have to disable
Calamity extra music or all the music mods

[hollow shell]

If you're disabling one of em then may as well do all of em
They all take up some memory size

[crystal iron]

Ah kk

[hollow shell]

@dapper coral Do you think Lucas's sugg is good enough?
https://discordapp.com/channels/225030931008847874/699359022364491868/759834609029742632

[dapper coral]

hi

oh, lemme check

start of the fights is her its biggest utility?

i assume that's what it meant anyways

[hollow shell]

yeah iunno why he gendered the weapon

[dapper coral]

other than that it's fine, i've removed the ❗

[hollow shell]

The sugg is pretty funky
but the actual suggestion is valid and notable

Vehemence not ignoring anti-butcher

[dapper coral]

yep

@vagrant elbow if you see this in the next hour, just change that "her" to "its", if not then nbd

[crystal iron]

Ok I tried
And the lag is somehow worse

Frames don't drop but instead it went down to 10 fpa

Fps

From 20-30 fps with occasional frame drops

[hollow shell]

How very odd

[sharp ibex]

I just had a useless but possibly interesting idea

[tawny garden]

#bugs-read-pins?

[sharp ibex]

There’s Cosmilite Bars, auric bars, why not add Silva bars made from the materials Silva armor is currently made from?

[tawny garden]

(Ye I know that I'm a half an hour late lul)

Hm
Where would be their place tho
In the bloat that is late-post-ml

[dapper coral]

i assume they just mean to combine all the silva materials into a bar, which would then be used to make the armor

so, just a way of keeping things neater

at the same stage that silva is at

which is uhhhh post-darksun, i think?

[tawny garden]

Ye

[violet dagger]

Ye there could be a silva thing

[tawny garden]

Half a boss away from a new stage

[violet dagger]

Combine effulgent feathers and whatever other shit there is

[dapper coral]

i mean, that's just an issue with silva armor in general, not the bar itself

[tawny garden]

(Ye, I know)
(I'm kinda criticizing the mod)

[dapper coral]

(isn't that what we do here)

[tawny garden]

(Ye but
My criticizing will never be a sugg)

[swift wharf]

the only recipes that use feathers + darksun fragment is silva armor, wings and the block so adding a bar for those doesnt make much sense

auric makes sense because you use it to make a lot of items

[tawny garden]

I'm kinda opposed to the idea of silva bars cause it makes them similar to everything else, no variety

[swift wharf]

yeah

[tawny garden]

Also they have no ore counterpart so they would have to be dropped by Yharon

[dapper coral]

maybe they're not a bar, but an amalgamation, which would technically circumvent the ore requirement for an ingot

byeah that's also fair

[tawny garden]

Like bars of life

Uh

[swift wharf]

but like

[dapper coral]

ye, except not alloy

[tawny garden]

Life alloy

[swift wharf]

life alloy is used in a lot of stuff

[tawny garden]

[swift wharf]

''silva materials'' are used in 3 recipes (9 if u count all the armor)

omega blue has kinda of the same deal with reaper teeth + ruinous souls

[tawny garden]

I've just realized that there are gonna be people who don't remember bars of life
In the same way that I don't remember Draedon bars

Damn

[crude geode]

Yep

[dapper coral]

sucks being old, huh

[crude geode]

tbh now that I think about it, I kind of hate how darksun fragments and Silva stuff forces you away from fighting this dragon, essentially forcing you to fight it twice. Feels unnecessary.

Like, out of every boss, Yharon is the only one to technically have two debatably different fights, which feels...very ugh.

[mossy badge]

lol

we need auric bricks

n O w

i wanna build yharim palace

[raven moon]

we need auric bricks
ikr

i said earlier that we need a whole furniture set

[radiant meadow]

I don't understand

what exactly are you asking for?

[raven moon]

torches

for all of the furniture sets

[dapper coral]

so why are we talking about bricks

[raven moon]

that was off topic

[radiant meadow]

The title is unclear

[mossy badge]

auric ore + cosmilite brick + sliva brick + uelibloom brick

oh

i was talking about this before he posted

[raven moon]

yeah

[radiant meadow]

When there is a whole furniture set for this one theme you would expect the most basic pieces of themes in terraria (torches) to be there but for some reason they aren't.
In all fairness, most of Terraria's furniture sets do not have a dedicated torch.

[mossy badge]

yeah

[radiant meadow]

Like there's no Slime Torch

[mossy badge]

but a godslayer torch would be so fuckn awesome

change mah mind

[raven moon]

yeah

[robust lava]

It’s really just the biome torches and the gem torches

[raven moon]

yeah

[mossy badge]

a torch for cursed and ichor

[raven moon]

candles are useless though so torches are needed

[radiant meadow]

So that reasoning is quite shaky since it's not a thing that vanilla does

[raven moon]

i could replace that with candles

i was gonna just say add torches for every furniture set but i know that it would take so longg

[radiant meadow]

but all of Calamity's furniture sets have candles

[raven moon]

i know but candles have much less of a use

im saying that since candles need platforms under them torches would be much better/easier to use in building for basic, themed lighting

[radiant meadow]

You can't use vanilla candles as an example for us to add torches is what I'm saying.

[raven moon]

yeah ik

hmmmm

[hollow shell]

The suggestion seems fine overall now

[raven moon]

actually kinda off topic but are there any Calamity torches?

[hollow shell]

Reasoning isn't amazingly strong but it's there

Yes

[raven moon]

imma look at that

[hollow shell]

uhh

just one

for the Abyss.

[mossy badge]

lol

[raven moon]

there is the cosmolite sconce

[hollow shell]

So yeah that'd be a good addition to your sugg

[raven moon]

but that isnt a torch

[hollow shell]

Woefully few torches

in the mod.

[raven moon]

ill add that when im out of calss

class*

[hollow shell]

aight

[raven moon]

added

[radiant meadow]

I still have some issues with it.

There is only 1 torch in Calamity (the abyss torch) and it is just a variant of the cursed/ichor torches.

Literally every torch is a variant of another.

This hurts your sugg more than helps it.

Why use Silva torches when you could use Green torches?

It's literally "a variant"

[mossy badge]

new torch variant

[sleek turret]

Decorative purposes? (although I never seen someone building with Calamity tiles)

[mossy badge]

i do

[radiant meadow]

When there is a whole furniture set for this one theme you would expect the most basic pieces of themes in terraria (torches) to be there but for some reason they aren't.
This sentence should honestly just like be removed because most vanilla sets don't have an associated torch. It's not our job to add torches to fill in vanilla sets. and vanilla precedent says we don't need torches.

@raven moon

[raven moon]

alright

[mossy badge]

i mean does it really have to follow vanilla?

thats the point of mods right?
to add stuff that vanilla did not

[raven moon]

nah

Decorative purposes? (although I never seen someone building with Calamity tiles)
if you would like i can show you one of my calamity tile builds

[mossy badge]

i build out of calam tiles...

[raven moon]

yeah

[radiant meadow]

you don't need to show your builds here

[raven moon]

i mean it helps prove the point

[mossy badge]

yeah

[radiant meadow]

no, it really won't. It'll just be distractive clutter.

[mossy badge]

i built a profaned build earlier and i kind of wished there were profaned torches

[radiant meadow]

when your suggestion is focused on adding torches, not how cool your build is

[mossy badge]

i had to use ichor DX

[radiant meadow]

we don't have to follow vanilla, but we often do follow a lot of vanilla precedent

by simple merit of being a mod doesn't mean you have to do everything that vanilla doesn't

[mossy badge]

not everything

just the little things that would make the game SO much more fun

[radiant meadow]

@raven moon read this too https://discordapp.com/channels/225030931008847874/465195069406707722/760227820692963340

[mossy badge]

especially for builders

just the little things that would make the game SO much more fun

[crude geode]

What Ben said.
Calamity also isn’t primarily a building mod. Sure, there is nice furniture, but Calamity adds mainly content for boss fights and more weaponry, as well as a lot of other stuff. But the focus is boss fights.

[mossy badge]

yo

[radiant meadow]

@raven moon read this too https://discordapp.com/channels/225030931008847874/465195069406707722/760227820692963340

[mossy badge]

my wifi cut for a sec 😮

[raven moon]

here is the thing about that

cursed and ichor torches are unique since they can be placed in water

the abyss torch does the exact same thing as those 2

[radiant meadow]

so we should remove abyss torch for being irrelevant?

because that's the message I'm getting here

[raven moon]

you could keep them since there are abyss blocks

[mossy badge]

no?

[raven moon]

and abyss themes

its just that they are the exact same as 2 other torches

and it is the only torch in Calamity

[radiant meadow]

Okay and literally every torch will also be the exact same

[raven moon]

abyss torches can be kept since they can work in abyss block related themes and they also have a secondary use

its just that it is the only torch that calamity adds

[hollow shell]

You just dont need to say that theyre "just a variant" of cursed/ichor

Cuz I mean
torches aren't meant to have unique effects

[raven moon]

yeah it just kinda says that there is only one Calamity torch and it is basically the same as 2 others

[hollow shell]

If it wasn't able to be used underwater, it would be even less unique.

[raven moon]

yeah i know but it seems like that is the only reason why it exists

[hollow shell]

Fun fact
those are literally the only two types of torches

[crude geode]

^

[radiant meadow]

I'm getting the message from that sentence that Abyss torch isn't needed since it's the exact same as ichor and cursed torches.

Which by merit means all added torches are useless and a waste of time

[raven moon]

if there were more torches than yes it would make it less unique but at least it would be used for something that isnt for underwater light

[radiant meadow]

So you're saying Abyss Torches aren't used for Abyss themed builds? Then that's more reason to remove it.

[raven moon]

they arent being used right now since there are no torches for other themed builds

if there were more than builders would notice it and use it making it less somewhat obsolete

[radiant meadow]

I'm pretty sure that's not how it works?

[raven moon]

if builders ever used calamity blocks for builds before they know there isnt a torch

so why would they look for one

[radiant meadow]

If you are dedicated enough to build, you should look up what you can make with the materials which would include Abyss Torch.

or check up on the wiki to see what's in the furniture set

which includes a torch

[hollow shell]

(dude all you need to do is remove one half of a sentence from your suggestion)

[raven moon]

forgot to press enter on the edit

[hollow shell]

It's fine to say having only 1 torch is a problem, that it's too few
You don't need to downplay it further with the comparison to Cursed/Ichor

[radiant meadow]

The last line just feels like extraneous fluff.

Normal torches are an essential light source because you need to see in the dark early game.

[crude geode]

^

[radiant meadow]

By the time you can craft silva torches, you can glow or your weapons make a fuck ton of dust and light.

[mossy badge]

ik

[raven moon]

yeah i thought so too but i added it just because torches are important for proper lighting

[mossy badge]

but torches also look gud

[crude geode]

Say proper lighting then.

don’t say essential light source.

[dapper coral]

this would fall under the "no new legendary items" don't, and maybe something else @crystal iron

[tawny garden]

m no

combining

[crystal iron]

Ah k

[tawny garden]

maybe we should ban the "combining all" suggs?

[hollow idol]

no reason either

and it really depends on the situation for combining things

[tawny garden]

hm, alright

[vagrant elbow]

@vagrant elbow if you see this in the next hour, just change that "her" to "its", if not then nbd
@dapper coral oh ok

[dapper coral]

yeah, it's not really a big deal so don't worry about it now

[vagrant elbow]

but its already out

[dapper coral]

ye, so you can't change it now

but it was more like a "if you have time, change this, but it's not a big deal"

[radiant meadow]

I'm just going to delete the leggie sugg. If they have any ideas, it can just be rewritten completely.

[mossy badge]

leggie?

[civic pond]

Is this more a vanilla problem?

I'd be down for a daybroken resprite

[mossy badge]

woah

[radiant meadow]

It's more of a vanilla problem.

[civic pond]

also leggie = legend

[mossy badge]

lots of mods

oh

im stupid

[rose jewel]

I don’t think the seriously it’s super annoying needs to be there but I think it’s good

[hollow shell]

hang on, for your lag suggestion @crystal iron

1. You should remove the sprite simplification thing, cuz that has no (or incredibly low) impact on performance, and you ought to mention dust
2. Would the separate mod be an alternate full Calamity Mod with slightly changed code, or would it modify stuff in the base Calamity Mod to change the code?
   If it's the latter, couldn't it be a config or activatable item instead?

[sharp ibex]

A checkmark reaction means the suggestion was approved, right?

[dapper coral]

a checkmark means it was sent to devs

well

✅ means it was sent to devs

☑️ means its been frequently suggested and has been sent to devs before

there's a legend in the pins

[violet dagger]

Ye

But approved =/= implemented

Me when discord erases \

[hollow shell]

You could say why a recipe is better than an NPC ware

@sand umbra

ah thanks

[sand umbra]

fastest edit in the west

[hollow shell]

Not a super strong reason for recipe bein better than ware but, it is one

Lotta recipes are pretty easy

[sand umbra]

is there a better reason I could give for it

[hollow shell]

You could mention that money is way easier to come by than specific materials are, generally

[sand umbra]

oh yeah

there we go

[hollow shell]

That's good 👍

[cobalt pewter]

Ah yes

Another one of these

[sturdy geyser]

what

[ashen warren]

:bruh** **: indeed

[sturdy geyser]

1. no reasoning
2. not proper formatting
3. shadowspec tier

[serene fox]

@limber flint ^

[sturdy geyser]

@limber flint check the pins

[ashen warren]

yes please

[limber flint]

oh... sorry

[ashen warren]

@sturdy geyser need your opinion on the new sugg

[hollow idol]

@fringe sky specifically in the pinned doc

actually no wait im blind

[heady storm]

Those are a don't aren't they?

[fringe sky]

Yeah I mentioned the mod already, the suggestion is to add it in to the main music mod now that it's in the ost

[hollow idol]

abyss miniboss for e wyrm has been denied in the past iirc, or at least just left alone

planetoid tho 🤔

[fringe sky]

Also don't think they're a don't from what I read

[heady storm]

• Implementing Threats of the Ocean Floor, the interlude themes, DM Dokuro’s remixes of the Calamity themes, and/or any other unused tracks
  Note: The music mod is already very large and the devs don't want to use the filesize for unnecessary extra tracks. The themes can still be enjoyed on YouTube and Dokuro's Bandcamp, just not in-game.
  Frequently suggested.

[fringe sky]

Oh I just saw, missed that

Rip

[hollow idol]

I do think an arguement could be made for the planetoid theme as an exception as a mod has been able to do it before

[fringe sky]

My main take was because the tracks aren't exactly scrapped now as they're in the ost

[hollow idol]

cosmic distrust and the 8bit songs are in the ost

and the other remixes

[fringe sky]

Like for example sanctuary wasn't in the ost until very recently but now it is with the other 7 tracks

But sanctuary is in game

[hollow idol]

being part of the ost doesnt matter

[fringe sky]

And for Planetoid especially it fits with a biome

[radiant meadow]

sanctuary was literally composed specifically for the sunken sea months in advance.

[fringe sky]

Right and so was moon for planetoids no?

[radiant meadow]

pretty sure that's not the case

Not to mention what Planetoids are

They aren't a new biome.

It's just new structures in space.

Sunken Sea was a totally new biome.

[fringe sky]

Wait was the sunken sea a relatively new addition compared to planetoids?

Oh

[hollow idol]

planetoids came out mid 2018, sea was early 2019

[radiant meadow]

Sunken Sea is newer than Planetoids

for sure

[fringe sky]

Oh not that new nvm

[radiant meadow]

I remember because Planetoids were a thing when I joined Cal but I also helped to test the sunken sea.

[fringe sky]

Ah I see

[radiant meadow]

because by then I was a beta tester

[fringe sky]

It just sucks though because I personally love the Planetoid theme and now that it's in the ost I thought maybe it could get implemented into the game officially

[hollow shell]

Do note that when Planetoids were first a thing (or at least very soon after being added?) Calamity increased the world height so there was an area above Space where the theme could possibly play
but now, it's in the same space

[radiant meadow]

Except like when Calamity did that

Floating Islands counted as surface biome iirc

[hollow shell]

Yeah it was a bad idea

overall.

[radiant meadow]

along with funny map bugs

[fringe sky]

Huh

[hollow idol]

the lost theme mod does the funny , but it isn't exclusive to the concept of planetoids, just uses dirt and stone at a certain height for convenience

[fringe sky]

I mean I don't think that's much of an issue currently based on the extras mod

[hollow shell]

(also the miniboss theme wasn't implemented because their fights begin and end too quickly, it'd sound really off in-game)

(Thas why it was "scrapped")

[radiant meadow]

Also more than one can spawn at a time

[fringe sky]

Right, and I think those parameters that is in the mod would work fine

[hollow idol]

Theoretically yes

[radiant meadow]

and a number of them spawn in stealthily

they don't have health bars for that reason

[hollow idol]

(Piano is referring to planetoids)

[hollow shell]

Well I always assumed it would only play when you aggro them

I'm still kinda in the camp that the theme could/should play when you aggro AEW

[radiant meadow]

It'd be kinda just a waste of space in the music mod though.

[hollow idol]

would last even shorter than if it were for normal abyss minibosses

[radiant meadow]

AEW aggro is not a common occurence.

unless you do it on purpose

[hollow shell]

I acknowledge that that's a very specific minimal usecase for the song
but it would add to the "oh fuck" and, for anybody attempting to survive against him, it'd give em something hype to listen to

[fringe sky]

Aew would make sense and lasts long enough fight wise

[radiant meadow]

not if you just die

[hollow shell]

(that is, if you're trying, yeah)

[fringe sky]

That could be said for all boss themes

[hollow shell]

Nah nah, for AEW it's different

[radiant meadow]

except the difference is that you're not meant to survive vs aew

[hollow shell]

Because ^

[radiant meadow]

you're supposed to be able to beat bosses

[hollow shell]

He's Dungeon Guardian 2.0

[fringe sky]

I mean it would be nice to have as to give some auditorial entertainment when trying to kill aew purposefully

But even if that's a no I still would love Planetoids

[hollow idol]

abyss miniboss theme is extra file size that's just put onto another addon, planetoids still viable tho

[fringe sky]

I'm surprised that music would be that large data wise when it's already separated from the main mod itself

But then again I'm much newer to the mod as a whole

[radiant meadow]

Music being as fat it is, I generally feel it should only expand as necessary.

Music files are just super fat.

[fringe sky]

Guess they're not that compressed then

[radiant meadow]

Compress them too much and they lose sound quality

[fringe sky]

Yeah ik

Actually

I don't have access rn but how large is the lost music mod

Compared to the official calamity music mod

[radiant meadow]

can't say since I don't have it

[hollow idol]

lemme check rq

[fringe sky]

Thanks yuh

[hollow idol]

29.2 MB

[fringe sky]

And how big is the regular music mod?

[hollow idol]

actually no, I think the lost themes in question is the one that adds the scrapped turquoise themes

[fringe sky]

Oh

[hollow idol]

there's another one specifically for aew and planetoids

[radiant meadow]

The folder holding Cal music is 85 MB

[fringe sky]

Well I mean specifically aew and planet

[radiant meadow]

idk what the size is after compiling

[hollow idol]

9.5 MB for the one that just adds aew and planetoid themes

[fringe sky]

I just couldn't remember if it was called extra or just lost themes

[hollow idol]

https://mirror.sgkoi.dev/Mods/Details/CMusicPlanet

for reference

[fringe sky]

So about a 15% ish increase?

[radiant meadow]

By comparison

the entire Items folder of main mod is 7 MB

[fringe sky]

Yeah that's definitely music

I wonder how large just Planetoids would be thrn

Probably around half

Idk would 4mb be too much of an addition

[hollow idol]

I'll check rn the file size of the planetoid theme in that mod

3.99 MB

[fringe sky]

Well I was dead on

So yeah would +4mb be viewed as "not worth it"?

Also again thanks yuh

[hollow idol]

np

[hollow shell]

... I mean, it's not a great mindset to say "Well it's already so huge, what's the harm in adding some more?"
We are planning on adding more themes in the future for planned bosses and such, so it's not like adding these scrapped themes will take it to ~96MB and it'll stay at that size forever. That increase is gonna exist when we're trying to add those later boss themes

[fringe sky]

yeah I get that it's not going to be stagnant like this forever, but I do feel that having more music additions for environmental areas would help the game's worldbuilding immensely, plus it would be nice to have dm's final few tracks get represented into the game besides the OST itself

not to mention that they are really good themes

[hollow idol]

I could only see planetoid theme getting added, giving E wyrm a theme is a lost cause

[fringe sky]

it's less of "what's the harm in adding more" and more "it would be nice to finish off dm's musical aesthetic for areas that have really good tracks made already"

and yeah my main focus is planetoids anyways

and i wouldn't be that surprised if calamity eventually gets some space expansion in the future, so having a mod-specific space track included would be nice imo

[radiant meadow]

You should keep it focused then and remove abyss theme

[fringe sky]

sure thing

alright, edited

now how does it look?

[hollow shell]

"Plus I would gather that in the future, the space biome will get some form of overhaul, so having a calamity-specific space theme would be nice in advance."
What?

[fringe sky]

should I take that out

[radiant meadow]

that's not happening is what Rover is saying

[fringe sky]

oh

[hollow idol]

where did you even get that from

[fringe sky]

uh some of the lore i think

maybe i misread something

[radiant meadow]

At least not an overhaul that would make it a biome that isn't space

[hollow shell]

I don't know if that is planned, if it is then it's a really loose plan that the devs don't even have scheduled or pinned anywhere
If it is planned, we would add the theme when it happens, not like 2 years beforehand

[fringe sky]

that's fair too

alright taken that sentence out

[hollow shell]

aight cool
and also this big bit
"This is under the assumption that this track can still be legally included even though DM has stopped working on the OST. The main reason why I'm bringing this up is because the track (Blessing of the Moon) is now included as one of the 8 added tracks to the official OST. I get that initially it was a scrapped theme, but now that it's officially listed, I personally feel that it can get added without issue."
Yeah, don't worry about the legal side of things. We can. It was only "scrapped" because we didn't use it, not for any Dokuro-related reason like he didn't want it in the mod or w/e.

[fringe sky]

ah gotcha

[hollow idol]

Also for reference, this is how the planetoid theme is done in that mod
"As the Planetoids aren't a proper biome of their own, "Blessing of the Moon" will instead trigger if stone, mud, or dirt are detected in the space layer without cloud blocks nearby"

[fringe sky]

thanks

[hollow shell]

There we go, I just raised the amount of stars Pupseal's sugg will get by like 50%

[dapper coral]

oop, funny embeds

[dapper coral]

god

[hollow idol]

@ashen warren post redmario iirc

[ashen warren]

slowmode

[dapper coral]

i was just gonna say, ye

[hollow idol]

put link

[ashen warren]

good

[hollow idol]

(edit)

[tawny garden]

No damnit

[ashen warren]

sorry

[tawny garden]

You should've sent the message with the image

[ashen warren]

that would be extremely annoying to format

[cobalt pewter]

Delete then repost the message with the img

5head

[tawny garden]

that would be extremely annoying to format
Wdym?

[ashen warren]

typing in the little tiny text box it gives you when you add a message to an image is quite annoying

especially when it's a large message

[tawny garden]

You can type everything and then click on the +

[hollow shell]

Never seen that emote before

ah I see it has 1,200 usages in this server and most of them are by you

[dapper coral]

it's an emote that exists, yes

[ashen warren]

because zesty uses it

[hollow shell]

Wow okay literally in the past 4 months since the emote was first posted, Zesty has been the primary user

(with one exception back in 2019)

[ashen warren]

yeah lmao

[tawny garden]

Lul

[hollow shell]

I don't think we need any more emotes for this emotion

😔 and probably a few others too can be worked into this application

[tawny garden]

Wow

[dapper coral]

not to mention that you are literally the only person who uses that emote

[ashen warren]

(zesty wants to start the redmario cult)

[dapper coral]

well, technically it's already been stated

but yes

perhaps not necessary

[cobalt pewter]

Hage is mentioned on the sugg

[hollow shell]

@ashen warren I'm gonna give your sugg a big fat "redundant" unless you can edit in some actual reasons why the emote would be good to add even in the presence of other similar emotes

[cobalt pewter]

Taxevasion is

[hollow shell]

like 80% of your sugg is a joke

[cobalt pewter]

Unique

I'd say

It doesn't necessarily express disappointment, it's more of a sophisticated "bruh"

[ashen warren]

:redmario: imo can be used instead of both and

[hollow shell]

I was tempted to include the "bruh" emotes too

[tawny garden]

Remember :br:?

[frail mantle]

no need to remember

[tawny garden]

I want that back

[vivid niche]

Who here likes the idea of the abyss weapons (shadow chests) get upgrades

[scenic crypt]

sounds cool

[vivid niche]

I feel this would be important because we only get them after skeletron, then they become practically useless rather quick

[ashen warren]

wdym

[scenic crypt]

but not sure where can it fit

[golden narwhal]

I present the 'what's the reasoning'

[ashen warren]

reasoning, the bane of suggestions

also, ball o fugu into dragon pow

[vivid niche]

Reasoning would be that they’re pretty cool weapons, but they become underwhelming after a short period of time and I feel that it would only make sense

Oh yeah

[ashen warren]

also, they are useful on cryo

[golden narwhal]

I mean, that happens with alot of weapons

[vivid niche]

Only ball gets an upgrade and the rest don’t

Another reason

[ashen warren]

Reasoning would be that they’re pretty cool weapons, but they become underwhelming after a short period of time and I feel that it would only make sense
there is a rule against "it'd be cool"

[golden narwhal]

What differentiates abyss weapons from other weapons that they deserve an upgrade

[cobalt pewter]

"pretty cool" isn't a substantial reason

[dapper coral]

"it would only make sense" isn't quite strong enough either

[golden narwhal]

Predictive mind: post-cal and polter abyss already has weapons

[crude geode]

Abyss is already fine for content

[vivid niche]

Aah no I said that just on the whim I didn’t mean for it to sound like It’d be my entire reasoning

[crude geode]

Abyss also already has a lot to be honest.
Also, if you wanna talk about Calamity biomes that need more expanding/more in general we can talk about the Astral “Infection”.

(My brain just repeated that my god)

[vivid niche]

I guess but at least they added something to it (mollusk is new iirc)

[scenic crypt]

astral infection underground needs expansion

[dapper coral]

already planned

[scenic crypt]

nice

[vivid niche]

But yeah I just feel like the fact only bal o fugu gets an upgrade is not so cool of the developers. My personal reason is that black anurian is one of my favorite mage weapons

🤖

[cobalt pewter]

then pay 50 bucks to make an upgrade out of Black Anurian

[vivid niche]

I’m 14 I don’t got that money

:((((

[ashen warren]

((((:

[vivid niche]

[ashen warren]

it does spread

just not beyond a point

[crude geode]

my memory must be garbage then

[vivid niche]

I also still think leviathan and anahita should be buffed but the devs might do that now since the recent change logs

[cobalt pewter]

That's general dmode buffs

Not exclusive to the two

[vivid niche]

Ik

[golden narwhal]

Levi and ana did get their own buffs

[cobalt pewter]

[golden narwhal]

That's not just scaling throughout the fight

[vivid niche]

Personally I don’t think they should stop there

[scenic crypt]

1.4.5 levi seems fair imo

[vivid niche]

I just wish Levi had some uniqueness but that probably won’t happen

[crude geode]

I mean.

Is the two in one fight not unique enough??

[cobalt pewter]

Imagine fighting 2 fully-fledged bosses in a single fight

[ashen warren]

laughs in slime god

and perf

[cobalt pewter]

The worms are technically minions

[vivid niche]

Anahita seems pretty cool to me tbh

[cobalt pewter]

For perf

As well as big slimes for SG

[golden narwhal]

cries in twins

Byea, this is veering somewhere else

[cobalt pewter]

Mhm, either suggest smth or cease talking randomly

[vivid niche]

Hm what to suggest..

[crude geode]

Anyways uh yeah confusion tag line for astral infection

Confusing*

[ashen warren]

Don't

[scenic crypt]

suggestion to make dmode antlions shoot projectiles that dont place sand? or a config for it

[ashen warren]

also according to lore, it is an infection

[golden narwhal]

Think that's a thing next update

[vivid niche]

Hopefully

[golden narwhal]

That was mentioned, yes

[vivid niche]

It’s horribly annoying

[scenic crypt]

nice

[tawny garden]

Lore is currently

Not perfect

[crude geode]

^

I also mentioned the lore in the last sentence of my explanation.

[scenic crypt]

infection is a word that suits a biome that is generated from a meteor and not from world gen

[tawny garden]

First of all, there is no offical source of the lore, apart from the wiki and Mrrp's google doc
Which is off-limits
Secondly, some stuff from it conflicts with the game

[vivid niche]

Man I can’t really think of anything besides weapon suggestions lol
I’ll take my leave

[tawny garden]

Don't make suggs for the sake of making suggs

[crude geode]

^

I would say that it really doesn’t. When you think of an infection, you think of it spreading. But the astral infection doesn’t do that.

[vivid niche]

Which is why I said I will take my leave .-.

[mild umbra]

im prety sure it spreads

[vivid niche]

Night then

[tawny garden]

Doesn't

[ashen warren]

gn cy(a)

[vivid niche]

[heady storm]

@ashen warren what in the name of hell have you done.

[ashen warren]

i already told you chetto

[crude geode]

Rover already pinged them

[tawny garden]

They're suggin an emote that only they use

[crude geode]

[heady storm]

I'll be exclaiming this then.

[crude geode]

Fair enough really.

[tawny garden]

Ye, until it's not bloated

[heady storm]

That first part really doesn't add anything tbh.

[crude geode]

Pretty much.

[heady storm]

Due to this emote's extreme popularity amongst.... certain.... people in the community

They're suggin an emote that only they use

[ashen warren]

tbh i wouldnt mind using redmario tho .,.,.,.,.

[tawny garden]

To be fair
"Certain people" might be a group which only consists of 1 member

[heady storm]

That's the connection I'm making Philo.

In conclusion, redmario is the greatest emote ever created.
Doesn't add anything either, and in general this whole sugg comes off as a meme.

[tawny garden]

I can't judge, I've made a meme sugg before

[crude geode]

Anyways yeah, Astral Infection is false advertising (and I would not want another biome that spreads Evil Biomes and Hallow already corrupt my world enough) so...it shouldn’t be.

[tawny garden]

iirc biome spreading is hard to code in

So we're safe

[sand umbra]

can't you quite literally just bootleg vanilla to do that

[ashen warren]

i guess?

[sand umbra]

the fact that spreading biomes are handled horribly in vanilla in that they quickly and nigh-irrevocably overrun your world if not given 24/7 attention pre-Plantera is, to my knowledge, precisely why the Astral Infection doesn't spread

[crude geode]

(Hey Thomas )

[sand umbra]

(howdy)

[crude geode]

I’m kind of shocked that they didn’t do anything to it in Journey’s End, but also it probably would have been pain to try to fix.

[heady storm]

The Astral Infection not spreading is because Fab doesn't intend for it to ever iIrc.

[tawny garden]

Red has made a lot if questionable decisions in 1.4

[crude geode]

True master mode but off topic
I’m completely fine with that, I just find it odd that the Astral Meteor is called an infection then, while the Evil Biomes and Hallow...aren’t.

[cobalt pewter]

Red has made a lot if questionable decisions in 1.4

melee included

[tawny garden]

the legendary bathwater

[ashen warren]

terra toilet

[tawny garden]

Stop chain

[ashen warren]

sorry

[tawny garden]

eventhough I started the chain

[hollow shell]

It's called an infection for thematic reasons, yes

and lore reasons

And for the fact that it does infect a ton of blocks on impact

And indeed, it doesn't spread because Fab and other devs disliked dealing with spreading biomes and we didn't want to add to the pile

and "lore not really seen in game." True that most of it isn't in-game, but we do have the lore items
Aureus's saying "A titanic cyborg infected by a star-borne disease expelled from the belly of an ancient god."
(And Deus straight-up "God of the stars and largest vessel for the Astral Infection.")

[ashen warren]

also, the pun on the astral injection wouldn't work anymore

[hollow shell]

... indeed.

[ashen warren]

does this mean it should be exclaimed?

[hollow shell]

ehh I mean
... yeah

They sorta ignore all the other reasons why it could possibly be named what it is named, like "infection"'s only definition is "a spreading biome in Terraria"

@crude geode

[crude geode]

Yeah, I would like to mention the fact that you rarely see creatures of terraria infected by the astral infection besides the astral slime and spider.

[ashen warren]

there aren't many in corrupt/crimson though

[hollow shell]

(and Hadarian and Fusion Feeder)

[ashen warren]

astral bunny

[crude geode]

(Ty I haven’t been scouring the wiki for suggestions as of late, just occasionally popping in to suggest)

[hollow shell]

(and arguably Sightseers but those are more of a stretch)

[crude geode]

I guess there’s more of an argument to be made for the infection name than against it, it just...irks me.

[hollow shell]

m
In terms of lore and design and all the aesthetics, it is a perfectly suitable name
There's just that one point of confusion with regards to it existing as a biome in Terraria

[crude geode]

Yeah, that’s really the bit that irks me, but I don’t think there’s a grand solution.

also correct me if I’m wrong, but wasn’t there a suggestion/thought if a suggestion to allow turning ore into astral ore through powder/it landing?

[hollow shell]

Yes, there was a suggestion about that

some time ago

[ashen warren]

I personally regard corruption/crimson/hallow as evils, not infections

because they are apart of the world, not a foreign element

[hollow shell]

(well the former two are definitely "evils", that's a pretty accepted term for them. The Hallow is a... "good", I guess)

(chaotic good)

[crude geode]

^

[ashen warren]

hallow is kinda doing it's own thing ig

[crude geode]

Hallow has always been it’s own thing really

Might make a suggestion regarding the astral underground to be honest.

It needs improvements.

[ashen warren]

astral underground is being reworked soon iirc

astral bunny

astral penguin

[hollow shell]

We do have definite plans for it but you could still suggest stuff regarding it I suppose

[ashen warren]

what about the don't regarding future content?

[hollow shell]

That doesn't really apply

Well, depends on how the suggestion is worded

Cuz the underground sucks now so it would be fine to suggest that it become unsucked

It would be bad to suggest things that directly pertain to our future plans for it

[gray nebula]

late but about that norfleet sugg, does it really even need to be a proper sugg and reach 200 stars when it's not even something one could be against

it's kind of just a visual bug that should probably get put in the fixes channel of dev

[ashen warren]

well, i personally like the old sprite, so I would say yes

[hollow shell]

I guess not but there's nowhere else for him to report it

s'not a bug

[frail mantle]

it's an oversight

[hollow shell]

Also that's not what his suggestion is about, Oculus.

[gray nebula]

not technically a bug but a visual problem byeah

but like would I be able to report it in the #fixes channel

[hollow shell]

Yes

Totally could have and maybe still can

[ashen warren]

there is a fixes channel?

[hollow shell]

In dev

[ashen warren]

ah

[gray nebula]

epic

[crude geode]

(But, as I am not a dev, I have no idea about the future plans.)

Would something such as a reason to visit the astral underground outside of a single weapon for summoner work?

[hollow shell]

Yes

[ashen warren]

(not to be annoying but can the suggestion be exclaimed before someone forgets)

[tawny garden]

Def a bluecheck

[golden narwhal]

Side note that that one summoner acc also exists

iirc astra staff is also gotten from there, byea

[hollow shell]

What suggestion, Oculus?

[ashen warren]

https://discordapp.com/channels/225030931008847874/699359022364491868/760422501405687820

[hollow shell]

What's wrong with it?

[ashen warren]

nvm, being stupid again

[hollow shell]

aight

[cobalt pewter]

Astralanchnea staff, Hive Pog Hive Pod, and uh smth else

[frail mantle]

Starbuster Core

[sinful steeple]

Starbuster core

But that's like the only one that's really important

[cobalt pewter]

Heard Hive Pog is op

[sinful steeple]

It is really good

[cobalt pewter]

And Astra staff is actually good

[sinful steeple]

But the other two aren't used in anything

[cobalt pewter]

True

[sinful steeple]

You gotta get starbuster core unless you don't intend on getting nucleogenisis for some reason

[cobalt pewter]

I feel like something equivalent to Souls of Light and Night for underground Astral Infection would be ight to expand on the area

[hollow shell]

Right, yeah
Two weapons actually, one for summoner and one for mage @crude geode

Still very insubstantial tho

[cobalt pewter]

Speaking of astral, I remember to make a sugg about retiering Hadarian Wings, to put it under Leaf Wings situation

[crude geode]

Done

[hollow shell]

Thanks

[crude geode]

Np

[unreal star]

should i make a suggestion about making the sunken sea have more materials/weapons

right now you go there for the clam and sea prisms and that’s it

but i’m not sure if something like that would fly

[sturdy geyser]

put more weapons in a certain part of the game is a valid suggestion

iirc

[unreal star]

alright

[tawny garden]

As long as you don't go into subclass level, you're fine

[unreal star]

done

wdym subclass

[tawny garden]

Like yoyos and staves and shit

Good sugg imo

[unreal star]

alright cool

a yo-yo that shoots out sea prisms would be cool

but that’s too specific

[sturdy geyser]

nice

[elder mist]

@ashen warren your suggestion is bad

[violet dagger]

Wait hage got added

[elder mist]

i had to come out of suggestion retirement because it was that bad

[cobalt pewter]

LMAO

[tawny garden]

Ein embraces sugg channels once again

[cobalt pewter]

Just for the redmario sugg

[mossy badge]

did they reset posting?

[tawny garden]

What?

[frail mantle]

que

[mossy badge]

i can see the beginning of #suggestions-posting

[ancient mirage]

its pretty much always small enough for that, the suggestions are deleted when moved to voting

[brittle nexus]

Suggestions are auto deleted after 24 hours, or when moved to voting.

[violet dagger]

Looks like someone isn't up to date on the Sugg system

They're sent to voting after 24 hours now

But if they have ❗ they're deleted

[ashen warren]

man i kinda wanna see :redmario: added here

[brittle nexus]

Well, really. Huh

[violet dagger]

[brittle nexus]

Either way, sugg posting is cleared out all the time due to how it's set up.

[mossy badge]

how have i never realized this

[hearty yew]

It's a very efficient system.

[cobalt pewter]

Mhm

[unreal viper]

Is as good as redmario imo, it serves the same purpose.

[pine star]

Yeah

Shame that is barely used though

Regular Tax Evasion is good enough

[tawny garden]

regular taxevasion is better

[pine star]

I know

That's why is barely used

[robust lava]

@novel belfry Wiki suggestions should go in #wiki-discussion

[novel belfry]

k

[tawny garden]

(there is no style requirement there)

[dry latch]

@left ice potion of omniscience?

[left ice]

No, that doesn't fix the fundamental issue of there being entirely too many projectiles on screen to easily tell them apart. It just changes the color of them. 😛

[dry latch]

haven't really used it myself, so I can't say much about the subject, but is it really that useless? shouldn't the different color make it easier?

anyway, if we go with removing the player projectiles instead, it'd make it harder to aim at stuff (except all the homing stuff ofc)

[left ice]

Hence why I suggested perhaps an option for a line to the cursor, too. 😛

[dry latch]

I've got a feeling that that's not gonna work for the more complicated weapons, like the water bolt for example

[left ice]

Yeah, but it's meant to be more of an easy way to keep track of the directional aim. If a player uses the weapon enough, they can probably figure it out as long as they have some indication of a starting point.

[hollow shell]

Fuck, I didn't exclamation the lag sugg?

[tawny garden]

ye

you did not

gg

and I didn't even see it lul

[hollow shell]

Nah fuck it, I did.

[dry latch]

I'm pretty sure there wasn't one. I did think it was weird

but I remembered you guys discussing it, so thought that you were okay with it

[hollow shell]

@crystal iron You can repost this with the edits (answered questions) I pinged you about earlier:

Separate mod for lag optimization

make a separate mod that makes calamity less laggy like maybe remove some unnecessary procectiles or make the sprites look simpler
Idk how it works so I might sound arrogant

.
Deleted it from voting

[tawny garden]

Nah fuck it, I did.

assert your dominance

[crystal iron]

Oh it was in voting .w.

[dapper coral]

okay but why would you want to do that

even if they "serve no purpose," which they don't

they have a bunch of ore and life crystals and loot to further early-game progression

[tawny garden]

clarification: they do serve a purpose

[crystal iron]

Well they serve little purpose then

It just saves up space
It might just be me but I find planetoids annoying

[hollow shell]

You need to add more reason to your suggestion, it's very minimal atm

[craggy stratus]

about the lab, i dont think spawning the lab on a floating island could work in anyway

[radiant meadow]

The lab was built for the planetoid structure

[cobalt pewter]

Imagine not boom shuriken-ing outta the Planetoids

[robust lava]

So at the very least you'd need to keep the main one

[crystal iron]

Ye

But then again u can craft cinderplate and cluster thingys (unless ur referring to the dreadons lab)

[robust lava]

I am not sure about the "destroying them would probably be an annoying experience even in late game" line, since it becomes very easy to destroy things later on, and even early with stuff like sticky dynamite

[crystal iron]

Well I'm speaking form my own experience so yet again it could just be me