someone's never used hornets on Skeletron, I see
#suggestions-discussion
sand umbra
also there is no reason whatsoever to buff earlygame bows
mainly because the damage of your bow does not mean shit that stage of the game
what matters is whether or not you're using Frostburn Arrows
Pearlwood was only buffed because it's a Hardmode bow outclassed by pre-Hardmode options otherwise
wood bows have no options before them to be outclassed by
this really just seems like a "buff it because it's not enough of a clear upgrade after I spent 10 seconds chopping down a tree for it" kinda deal
which really just seems unnecessary as all it'd do is stilt the balance of the game even further than it already is
ashen warren
@hollow shell bot should have commited aliveth again
wooden wedge
nice
hollow shell
Ah yep, seems to be online
limber sparrow
Is there a reason why they won't make the visibility of the asgards valor etc. toggable without disabling the dash function? I've seen this suggestion several times now, but it was never implemented despite having enough votes.
hollow shell
We are changing that
Next update
Ah.. the bot just kicked in
I should've uhh
I probably should've saved the ones that were due to die
Wait nah it's fine I got em
@unkempt bolt Add more fishing content post-Devourer of Gods
From Cosmilite Bars, you can craft the Devourer of Cods, the most powerful fishing rod in the game. However, there's no reason to use it. The last stage of the Abyss was unlocked after Polterghast, and the gear from that is long behind you at this point, making the Devourer of Cods an underwhelming and fairly useless item. I suggest some form of reward for fishing post-DoG to give this exceptional fishing rod a reason to exist, as well as expanding upon fishing which is at least marginally prevalent for most of the game before post-DoG.
@unreal viper Make debuffs inflicted on enemies more interesting.
Most debuffs in calamity are incredibly boring. Do some DoT, decrease some defense or other stats, and maybe throw those two ideas together. Considering so many weapons and accessories inflict them, it's kinda odd that they're such a boring part of gameplay. To make them more interesting, give them more unique, and make them much more noticable. Some ideas for making DoTs more useful include making fire effects do more DoT over time, making enemies that are on fire spawn sparks that deal damage, and making sulfuric poisoning weak and burn up enemy projectiles. These are just some ideas, but they show that debuffs can be more interesting.
Improve minions from armor set bonuses.
Many summoner armors include free unique minions as part of the set bonus. However, these minions are often disappointing due to being underwhelming and/or boring. Many minions from set bonuses are just standard minions, like the mechworm from the god slayer set bonus or the shellfish from the mollusk armor set bonus. Other minions behave incredibly similar to other summons, such as the statigel set bonus summon, which behaves like any other slime, and the silva armor set bonus, which behaves like the rainbow crystal staff. In addition, these minions often prove to be very ineffective. For example, the polterghast mines from the bloodflare set bonus are very difficult to land and have lackluster reward, and the set bonus mechworm struggles to hit yharon. The weakness of the minions makes the summoner helmet variants of calamity in hardmode nigh-useless compared to stronger specialized options. Making most or all minions from set bonuses unique and improving their functionality would make the armors the minions come from feel more unique and be more useful as well.
There we go
Mobile internet cheese saves the day again
ashen warren
poggies
zenith hazel
epic
hollow shell
Do Exilon's and Cata's suggs look good? Any issues with either?
polar grove
yeah they look fine
tbh the only problem i see with exilon's is that even if it does get accepted it wont happen for a long time
frail mantle
tbh a better idea for exilon's would probably be to just rename the halberd to a polearm
hollow shell
(even that isn't fully accurate)
hollow shell
In fact I think that's less accurate cuz it seems that all halberds are polearms, it's a category, which also includes spear weapons
er, depends on how you look at it I guess
polar grove
yeah acid rain enemies are a bit too tanky to be fun to deal with
and tbh i find a lot of the enemies to be really annoying in general
in the acid rain i mean
hollow shell
I don't have any in-game experience with Acid Rain so I can't comment
mental linden
y not make stealth strike toggleable by key
wooden wedge
Why would you would be a better question
mental linden
what do you mean
mental linden
bcuz stealth bar loss by normal attack is annoying
tawny garden
From what I infer (never played rogue), that's how stealth works
shitty
You try to save your biggest attack that way
but making it a toggle invalidates the whole idea
mental linden
waiting for stealth is deal loss for now
tawny garden
A lot of people say that stealth is garbo in general
mental linden
If stealth strike gives player a ability for short time I can consider to use it but
tawny garden
but for some reason there doesn't seem to be an appetite to fix it
dapper coral
I’ve only really messed with rogue for nohits and I feel like stealth is a bit useless other than the first attack, and even that is situational
Especially since it doesn’t gen while attacking
So I’m not gonna wait like 7 seconds to get a single somewhat-upgraded attack during a boss fight
mental linden
So I think stealth strike need some more abilities not just upgrading attacks
or make a way to charge during attack
dapper coral
Perhaps, yea
mental linden
Thats why i said about disabling stealth strike
robust lava
Aren't treasure bags per player? I thought you can't see other people's treasure bags and vice versa, so as long as you and your friends are each dealing enough damage to the boss, a treasure bag should drop for each of you
limber ocean
yeah, I've been playing multiplayer last couple of weeks and as long as we all help take down the boss we all get treasure bags
and I haven't heard them complain about treasure bags not dropping
sleek turret
treasure bags are 1 per player when a boss is defeated
when multiplayer, you only can get 1 bag from the boss, and the other 1 goes for friend
also the sugg looks more like a bug report
carmine stream
Shouldn't the Lazinator be changed to behave like the Zapinator in 1.4?
tawny garden
@fervent citrus your sugg isn't even a ☑️
fervent citrus
robust lava
iirc this was already implemented, but was broken again
robust lava
robust lava
And then it broke at some point, but the devs are aware it's broke
tawny garden
sleek turret
can nerf the coldheart icicle to deal 1.5% or 1% damage?
tawny garden
it's already shit: its range is nothing
sleek turret
titanium armor strat exist for some reason
tawny garden
if you think that it's too strong, provide kill times
sleek turret
oh yeah?
did i tell you i beat plantera with 900%+ life with that thing on deathmode?
tawny garden
how long did it take?
sleek turret
less than 6 minutes
tawny garden
then ig you have a valid sugg
but you shouldn't suggest specifically how much they nerf it
sleek turret
maybe a little bit of less % damage
but then first, lemme kill all post-plantera bosses with that weapon
then you will see how much time takes
and also the strat used was a strat i made to have 3-4 seconds of immunity
and can even be better while using other immunity frames or dodge attacks accesories
tawny garden
titanium armor strat exist for some reason
judging by the past nerfs, they'll prolly nerf just the combo, and won't change their constituent parts by themelves
(which is kinda strange imo)
because the OP icicle combos have been nerfed in the past
e.g. you can't even hold it under the effects of Invincible
sleek turret
the eidolon wyrm strat was nerfed
distant gyro
only one is jam
sleek turret
the titanium strat still works for melee
distant gyro
coldheart icicle is stupid and doesn't need a nerf and here's why
tawny garden
maybe they want an OP weapon in the game, just like the Halibut Cannon
distant gyro
no sane person cranks the config to +900% life
tawny garden
distant gyro
when you set life to default 2% is not worth it for its range at all
sleek turret
Want to see me beat Astral Aureus with 900%+ on deathmode with out the Halibut Cannon/Coldheart Icicle strat?
distant gyro
and for bosses that you can actually true melee it doesn't even work
provi btw
uhhh
tawny garden
btw, 900% doesn't matter here
tawny garden
cuz it beats everything in 50 hits, no matter the HP
distant gyro
0% health boost
hexed spade
suggestion bot is back?
sleek turret
yes
distant gyro
im sure mantis claws will beat coldheart by storm
hexed spade
yeah i killed cultist in like 12 seconds with mantis claws
sleek turret
but im crazy enoght to beat every boss with 900%+
sand umbra
Mantis Claws have basically the same range as Icicle and are still infinitely more viable iirc
tawny garden
LC is 
distant gyro
yeah but that's you being you
sleek turret
if you can kill post-ravager, then you can kill every boss
distant gyro
do you see other people doing 10x health?
hexed spade
the only boss icicle is bad on is providence
sleek turret
no
tawny garden
you should do nohits, way better use of time
sleek turret
i hate no-hits
distant gyro
icicle is bad on scal
hexed spade
well i guess its also bad on pre hardmode bosses too
distant gyro
hexed spade
and scal yeah
tawny garden
with nohits you actually get something
tawny garden
- access to a hidden channel
sleek turret
If you can beat post-ravager bosses without HC or CI, you can beat every boss
hexed spade
wait shouldn't this discussion happen in calamity mod talk?
distant gyro
yes and no
sleek turret
this discussion was because i was testing a strat i made with CI and titanium armor against plantera, so i pre-sugg the nerf to CI strat
hexed spade
coldheart icicle is pretty bad on plantera for a true melee at least in death
sleek turret
aham
hexed spade
sub shocker is better for dps
sleek turret
"im circling around ya"
hexed spade
?
sleek turret
do you think i wouldnt regen life for the next strike?
do you think i wouldnt wait for Shadow Dodge to regen?
tawny garden
btw, If you've beaten +900% HP Plantera in 6 minutes, you're gonna beat +0% Plantera in 6 minutes with Coldheart Icicle
sleek turret
yeah
tawny garden
and 6 minutes is AWFULLY SLOW
sleek turret
"less than 6 minutes" i said.
distant gyro
plantera normally takes 2 minutes
onyx river
Well if less than 6 min is 3 min then why didn't you say 3 min
sleek turret
boss checklist registered but i didnt remember what was the time
tawny garden
5 minutes is STILL AWFULLY SLOW btw
sleek turret
thats the strat
distant gyro
and this is a true melee friendly boss
what if you had to go against fast siren
literally distancing away from you cal clone
sleek turret
cal clone was mage using other strat
tawny garden
oh yeah, try to beat Providence with the Coldheart Icicle
distant gyro
multiple targets like astrum deus
tawny garden
and I'm gonna watch you while eating popcorn
oh, and what about Twins
with Retinazer literally charging at you and breathing Shadowflame
sleek turret
Thats the Tank's Strat.
tawny garden
how do you dodge that at low distance?
yea, kill the Twins with icicle only
challenge
distant gyro
more importantly how do you hit the boss without taking ages
tawny garden
and report the kill time here
distant gyro
no you're not using teleporters for this
sleek turret
i wasnt using teleporters for twins or even asphalt
tawny garden
if you don't die or it doesn't despawn due to the day starting that is
distant gyro
if you do then you admit it takes more effort to get icicle to work properly than to use a normal dps weapon
sleek turret
its 900%+ do you think i will waste my time with a great dps dealer?
tawny garden
nothing here is based/balanced around +900% HP
sleek turret
the only thing that can potentially destroy bosses with +900% hp its Halibut Cannon with no-piercing bullets
but takes time
tawny garden
are you fucking listening to what I'm saying?
distant gyro
10x is there for the memes and for the people who get fargo souls with dps getting god's dps
it is not what you balance on
sleek turret
I wasnt using fargo's souls, i challenged my self saying, "maybe 900%+ would be fun without fargos"
tawny garden
are you fucking listening to what I'm saying?
nothing here is based/balanced around +900% HP
distant gyro
when you make a weapon that drains a certain % of something's health
the higher the health, the stronger it is compared to everything else
that's what you're trying to swing favor towards
because otherwise coldheart icicle is regarded as a meme weapon in normal gameplay
that's the whole gimmick of coldheart that's almost impossible to use normally
sleek turret
the tanks playstile job you say.
distant gyro
you can facetank in 0% health and there are way better weapons for the job
mantis claws, submarine shocker, comet quasher, fetid baghnakhs, etc
even feralthorn claymore is better especially at events
hollow shell
Did it?
gray nebula
yeah
unreal viper
Oh.
gray nebula
its in voting
unreal viper
Really?
hollow shell
Nah that was specifically DoTs
He's askin for all debuffs now
could have included it in the original sugg
unreal viper
I believe that one was on DoTs inflicted on the player.
gray nebula
welp sorry for mistaking the suggestion for another
hollow shell
That's not directly specified but it seems that way from your reason
unreal viper
Ye, I should have specified in that sugg.
hollow shell
Edited the delivered sugg to make that clearer
zealous ridge
Is this the make all debuffs more powerful sugg
unreal viper
Thanks.
zealous ridge
Okay, more interesting
I don’t see that it got to voting?
Ah wait that’s because the bots back on
Does this mean that they can be re-posted?
hollow shell
Hm?
zealous ridge
I may be confused
hollow shell
Here it is
#suggestions-voting message
zealous ridge
Hold on I’m on mobile this might be fuckin with things
tawny garden
https://discordapp.com/channels/458428222061936650/482998084138172446/729858424770396250
do you have 12 channels there?
hollow shell
Hm?
gray nebula
what,
tawny garden
or maybe that's just a standard discord thing for when you don't have access
zealous ridge
oh no wait we're talking about different suggs, rover
gray nebula
you dont have access there so it probably just copies over the layout of another discord or smth
links to places you dont have access to normally redirect you to your dms iirc
zealous ridge
i was referring to sand's suggestion about debuffs on enemies
hollow shell
ok
zealous ridge
ah there we go its posted now
hollow shell
Do we think Dabeest's sugg is fine?
unreal viper
Seems kinda like a S.I.S to me.
dapper coral
i swear this one about music boxes and wires came up a while ago and someone pointed out that it's already a thing, but i can't find it in changelogs or voting
hollow shell
It got brought up in the dev server, even
We've been tryin
hollow shell
The one about them spawning on platforms?
sleek turret
yes
hollow shell
sleek turret
but now its more researched and went more depper
yeah
now its seems they spawn if you are steping between 6-12 tiles (no platforms or any variant of these) very high, kinda they spawn if youre near of a tile.
hollow shell
It has indeed been over a week and your suggestion didn't reach 170, so you can repost with those added details yeah
void kelp
I’m not sure if that works better as a bug report or suggestion
sleek turret
And if you are between these tiles but not in the middle of 6-12, 1 large slime will spawn below the high platform, and the other will spawn at the same height that you are standing
also i found a bug about mana polarizer
wooden wedge
Bugs aren't for suggs
sleek turret
yeah, but i found one but didnt suggest
fiery rapids
what was it
tawny garden
and it was valid iirc
fiery rapids
what was it about though?
fiery rapids
nice
hollow shell
Got it
Add Thrones
Add thrones made of Auric Bars and various other materials: Statigel, Bloodflare, Cosmolite, Silva, etc. While it may just be another piece of furniture, it's something to do with excess materials and if the player is building them throughout their playthrough it could add a sense of progression, especially if they built a castle. It's something to show your superiority in the world besides a boring basic golden throne. They could even be worked in with the lore as corresponding with people in lore that aren't shown in game like Statis, Silva, Daedalus, and especially Yharim.
@stray phoenix You can repost this (accidentally got yeeted)
tawny garden
mobile saves the day again?
hollow shell
indeed
hollow shell
Speaking of which, are both of IHS's "recent" suggs fine?
fiery rapids
yeah
tawny garden
ah, damn, forgot about that
tawny garden
ait
dapper coral
IHS's two suggs and dabeests seem fine to me
stray phoenix
what happened to my sugg earlier?
hollow shell
Bot auto-deletes suggestions after 24 hours
sometimes uhh, suggs slip by without getting approved even if they're valid
frail mantle
accidentally got deleted i think
dapper coral
thankfully rover the sugg god can bring suggs back from the dead in such cases
hollow shell
Indeed
stray phoenix
i've got it in a text document, so no worries if you couldnt
hollow shell
aight cool
tawny garden
time to change the nickname, rover
Rover | Resident Sugg God
tawny garden
hollow shell
frail mantle
unreal viper
Rover has ascended.
dapper coral
librarians are gods to begin with tbf
he's just making his title a bit more concise now
violet dagger
rover has ascended beyond our control... or was that all our intention?
stray phoenix
tawny garden
he has managed to approve whatever we made, but we're failing to comprehend
hollow shell
Anyway
How is the DoG suggestion?
https://discordapp.com/channels/225030931008847874/699359022364491868/730204466518949888
hollow shell
DoG takes a while to unfurl, you can easily walk over and see it
weak field
I mean, if it's not performance heavy I would say yes
halcyon magnet
same with me, it would make sense for a tear to appear when summoning
fiery rapids
i think it's a good suggestion
tawny garden
actually, I believe rn he fades in when spawning
this might be not too much of a stretch
i like it
halcyon magnet
i feel like it should be the same with the laser phase too
weak field
Or even delay the summoning for a little animation of the tear?
halcyon magnet
or is that too complicated
weak field
Say, you actually summon the tear and the tear summon dog
hollow shell
afaik no, he still starts out bunched up and straightens out
violet dagger
maybe the boss summoning effects could be toggled by config
if they're too performance heavy
tawny garden
and you kill him with Eidolon Wail at that moment
weak field
Calamity 1.4.4.5: the ten thousand config update
hollow shell
I don't see why it would be performance heavy to have like
1 or 2 more sprites on the screen and giving DoG's segments fading opacity
halcyon magnet
do you think it could be the same with the laser phase?
where the DoG goes in a tear
and goes back out after
hollow shell
It could be I guess
Probably to a less dramatic extent
halcyon magnet
like there is already one effect there with the DoG after the lasers are gone
violet dagger
I swear if they resprite doggo one more time
halcyon magnet
like an explosion of particles
hollow shell
This is unrelated
violet dagger
ok
tawny garden
that's def gonna happen, seal
hollow shell
Don't start
tawny garden
k
hollow shell
and yes DoG enters with a burst of particles when he returns after the laser phase
But I'm pretty sure he's still all curled up
cuz that's hard to avoid when you've got a worm appearing all at once
halcyon magnet
the segments fade in don't they?
hollow shell
I think so
tawny garden
It's kind of buggy
you see his segments bunched up, but not always
or sometimes you don't see them when he spawns and start to see them a bit later
halcyon magnet
it happens with all worm bosses doesn't it?
tawny garden
it happens with all worms
halcyon magnet
all worm enemys
tawny garden
even diggers afaik
but those have the advantage of being small and spawning far enough away
hollow shell
Honestly I don't know if there are any differences in her behavior when she enters her ""second phase""
polar grove
i think its entirely gigablasts in the second phase
heady storm
Honestly I don't know if there are any differences in her behavior when she enters her ""second phase""
DR changes iIrc but that's about it.
Not sure if there's anything else.
frail mantle
Upon reaching 40% health, she transitions into her second phase, her body now featuring molten streaks. From now on, she will perform half as many charge attacks in a row. Additional Brimstone Gigablasts are fired from this point forward.
halcyon magnet
Heres an example of what the tear in reality could possibly look like when summoning DoG
frail mantle
also i think her pattern resets when she goes into phase 2? not sure
mental girder
Looks pretty cool!
violet dagger
and make the portal a custom portal
hollow shell
byeah that looks about right
violet dagger
instead of ooa one
halcyon magnet
like it would be purple haze like the lore says
golden narwhal
That'd be cool
halcyon magnet
though i could have made a custom portal, but it would take too long
faint needle
That kinda sounds doable?
halcyon magnet
this is only an example
faint needle
Since each segment is separated a set time invisibility on each segment would be the easiest solution I'm thinking of
unkempt bolt
do i need to repost my sugg that was yeeted?
hexed spade
which one was it?
unkempt bolt
post-DoG fishing content
rover said the bot ate it but he saved it
so im just wondering if he wanted me to repost it
hollow shell
Yeah you can repost
unkempt bolt
alright
hollow shell
Cool
Do we think that's a valid sugg?
violet dagger
yes
this is probably too specific but there could be rare fish grab bags for nightmare fuel and endothermic energy once u beat the buffed version of that moon
fiery rapids
i think the suggestion is good
void kelp
when did rover become god
hollow shell
like a few minutes ago
wooden wedge
fear
halcyon magnet
so you became a dev nearly half an hour ago?
mighty knot
is there anything wrong with my sugg...?
steep crown
Scal is getting a lot of work done. Sprite change, attack change, and Quote change. Pretty close to a full Fight makeover, so Any suggestions doing with her are likely going to be outdated
steep crown
Didn't they say that Scal was getting a new sprite?
hollow shell
Not soon
steep crown
Oh yeah, Definitely not soon. But I'm pretty sure Its planned
hollow shell
It is, yeah
steep crown
Scal's got a bit of a story and Gameplay Disconnect. In the lore She's pretty much Explicitly stated to be Humanoid. In the game, Not so much. I'm pretty sure the update is supposed to address that (And Hopefully not turn her into yet another Missile Launcher boss. The Modded Community has enough of those)
ancient crow
what's a missile launcher boss
heady storm
also i think her pattern resets when she goes into phase 2? not sure
It does yeah.
steep crown
You know, Those omnipresent bosses that either hover on the same Elevation as the player, or move slowly towards them, all the while doing nothing but Firing Projectiles. Basically a missile launcher as a boss. A ton of Mods have them and they get boring fast.
keen lagoon
isn't that what she currently is then?
steep crown
Nah, Her dashes, minions, and bullet hell phases make her more Interesting
More could be done, But she's fine
loud kayak
Hey Discord Monitor, thanks for making that simple visual for the DoG portal. It's almost exactly what I was envisioning.
I noticed after I posted my original suggestion that somebody else had said something similar, but saying that DoG should leave through a portal when you defeat it in Phase 1, but I felt like that takes away from the first-time surprise of seeing him come back as a beefy boi
unkempt bolt
Scal's got a bit of a story and Gameplay Disconnect. In the lore She's pretty much Explicitly stated to be Humanoid. In the game, Not so much. I'm pretty sure the update is supposed to address that (
And Hopefully not turn her into yet another Missile Launcher boss. The Modded Community has enough of those)
her current sprite is a placeholder due to the game being made before the lore
eventually™️ she'll have a humanoid sprite
formal cobalt
The Emphatic Untamed Calamity mod gives her a sprite similar to her current one, but puts a humanoid figure on top of it. I think this is because the mod also adds her as an NPC once you beat her (I may be incorrect about that part, but it would make sense).
It's also only a config option in the mod, but it's still cool nonetheless.
dapper coral
Iirc calamitas will become an npc in the base mod but that will not be for many many long time
violet dagger
I'd say she won't have humanoid sprite or npc until yharim or draedon
probably yharim
hollow idol
spoilers tab... where...?
inland viper
Absolutely not.
hollow idol
@ashen warren
unkempt bolt
you need reasoning
inland viper
If people read the don'ts, we'd never have suggestions that make us question if people read the don'ts. And I ask that question daily.
unkempt bolt
the link to the don'ts is literally onscreen in posting lmao
inland viper
I know; I mean, I managed to find it before posting my first sugg a week ago. But I feel like a solid 40% of people somehow don't see it.
violet dagger
should I ping rover(spider isn't online)
hollow shell
Elaborate, gare
unkempt bolt
they're dnd
wooden wedge
I'm only guessing what they mean is already met by the existence of #changelogs
hollow shell
@ashen warren You're gonna need to elaborate on your suggestion and repost it once you've got an explanation and a reason
wooden wedge
it's hard to tell what they mean by this "sugg"
unkempt bolt
was that the title?
unkempt bolt
seems more like it was the entire content of the sugg lmao
title and reasoning in 3 words
suggestion speedrun
inland viper
They probably wanted people to avoid talking about spoilers in general chat, but uh... that's probably never going to happen.
stray phoenix
how likely are suggestions to be considered usually?
unkempt bolt
any suggestion that reaches 170 stars is sent to the devs
inland viper
Well, the way it works is that after a period of review (usually 24 hours, IIRC) the sugg goes to voting. Then, if it gets at least 170 stars, it goes to devs.
unkempt bolt
so suggs that are sent to the devs have a 100% chance of being considered
steep crown
Of course, the wat my luck is, mine get 160 and then stop
unkempt bolt
not guaranteed to be implemented by any means, but its a way of letting the devs know what the people want
wooden wedge
if you don't want spoilers get the people to spoiler tag their things
unkempt bolt
they could very well see it and instantly strike it down
wooden wedge
||like this||
inland viper
Still crossing my fingers that my sugg to allow bases to be built in the Abyss gets in. I just finished a Sunken Sea base, and I'm p proud of it.
hollow shell
I mean
foggy plover
@golden narwhal already happened for next update
hollow shell
We have both #changelogs and #mod-announcements where spoilers get placed
golden narwhal
O, nice
foggy plover
I think theyre getting 2-3x bigger?
polar grove
pbg has stingers?
foggy plover
somethin like that
hollow shell
The latter shows Brimmy's new sprite, a new Yharon attack, Provvy's spawn anim, etc
polar grove
i never knew
golden narwhal
More like mini-missiles, byea
void kelp
Yeah, we have spoilers in those channels
we do have an archived spoiler discussion channel that’ll be opened up for big updates
@ashen warren don’t #mod-announcements and #changelogs do that job?
polar grove
mod announcements dont really seem like spoilers for me, but changelogs do
hollow idol
#mod-announcements was literally called #updates_and_spoilers for awhile
hollow shell
(apart from the three thingies I just mentioned)
polar grove
it seems more like a teaser channel tbh
hollow idol
thats what
hollow shell
is that not what gare is asking for
void kelp
idk what they want since like
We have #calamity-update-talk it’s just archived for now
hexed spade
it literally says spoilers get announced here
void kelp
and we have #mod-announcements and #changelogs
ashen warren
It would be like parts or sprites
halcyon magnet
What you guys talking about?
hollow shell
The most recent suggestion . _.
hollow idol
sprite
halcyon magnet
im guessing the spoon is a joke
hollow shell
astute observation
golden narwhal
Guess is that it's a base for some staff thing
polar grove
the spoon is probably just a foundation for a staff or something
hollow shell
Also I've got a better idea.
If you're discontent with the amount of teasers that get posted in #mod-announcements, gare, make your suggestion that Fab posts more teasers in that channel instead of asking for a whole new channel that fulfills some of #mod-announcements existing purpose
@ashen warren
halcyon magnet
but what would the elemental actually be holding?
polar grove
my guess? a staff topped by a rose
hollow idol
trident or something
violet dagger
will the sprite be this update or a future one
I'm guessing future
since it still has to be animated
hollow shell
If things go well it'll be this update
halcyon magnet
It could be the brimlance
or something
Well it could possibly be the Brimlance
It could be anything.
steep crown
Except a spoon
keen lagoon
a brimstone spoon
void kelp
ok back on topic please
ancient crow
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halcyon magnet
Tilted Text
hollow shell
Do we think Quanta's sugg is fine
https://discordapp.com/channels/225030931008847874/699359022364491868/730258043333378079
ik there were some counterarguments but I think it's fine in terms of suggestion validity
inland viper
Looks good to me.
sand umbra
it's technically valid
I can almost guarantee you it won't happen, but it is technically valid
void kelp
Yeah it’s valid but unlikely to get off the ground
inland viper
I like the idea, but realistically, you'll just skip straight to a silver or gold bow.
sand umbra
remember: Pearlwood is a Hardmode material
the other wood bows are literally at the start of the game
hexed spade
Brimlance?
spoon replaces brimlance
hollow shell
funny
inland viper
Brimspoon. It makes the Well Fed buff last 5 extra minutes.
hexed spade
was pearlwood armor buffed?
sand umbra
if the Comedically Large Spoon isn't a Brimlance RIV I'm gone
also, no
Pearlwood armor isn't buffed
hexed spade
it should be
inland viper
I smell a sugg.
hexed spade
sand umbra
to answer the inevitable sugg: no, it should not become rogue
have Calamity options given to the Calamity class
just let Gol-- ER, Pearlwood be like
hexed spade
i am not going to make one because i am gonna go to bed in like an hour or two
sand umbra
an early Hardmode allclass option or smth
hexed spade
maybe just a big defense armor
inland viper
The sugg I was thinking of was in regards to the Comedically Large Spoon RIV, but hey, pearlwood works too.
void kelp
that would be a specific item suggestion which is a no
inland viper
Ah shit, you right.
hexed spade
will anything be done with the spoon or is it just a joke that will never be added into the game
inland viper
I was under the impression it was just a placeholder.
hexed spade
i was under the impression it was just a spoon
keen lagoon
wouldn't be surprised if it makes it's way in somehow
violet dagger
I've heard the spoon might be on her sprite during april fools
but unless it's a placeholder for smth else to be made it probably won't
polar grove
i mean
the monoliths not being a type of wood makes sense in a roundabout sort of way
but it really should be considered wood just for consistency
radiant meadow
I asked and was told no, it's not wood so don't add it to the recipe group
This was awhile back
halcyon magnet
Hey Discord Monitor, thanks for making that simple visual for the DoG portal. It's almost exactly what I was envisioning.
I noticed after I posted my original suggestion that somebody else had said something similar, but saying that DoG should leave through a portal when you defeat it in Phase 1, but I felt like that takes away from the first-time surprise of seeing him come back as a beefy boi
@loud kayak No problem.
hollow shell
How's the Acid Rain sugg? Valid?
https://discordapp.com/channels/225030931008847874/699359022364491868/730310653960781974
polar grove
very
the AI of some of the enemies, combined with their tankiness makes them so annoying to kill
sand umbra
absolutely
ashen warren
I like the DoG suggestion
frail mantle
heady storm
Very good suggestion ngl Leon.
frail mantle
thank
ashen warren
What was your suggestion?
hollow shell
The most recent one in voting
ashen warren
Tru
hollow shell
@fervent citrus Your sugg is fine imo just remove that crossed out bit
and beyond being "a nice little detail" it's a matter of consistency and functionality. You could mention it bein used in builds or w/e
frail mantle
i'd say so yea
golden narwhal
Seems alright
polar grove
yeah seems reasonable
hollow shell
It'd be good if the reason was elaborated on a bit more, gettin something objective in there rather than being purely personal
bold light
Just so a player doesn't have to scour the world looking for the missing item they need to create the ninja gear.
crude geode
I don’t think a recipe is really needed, just to add shoe spikes to wooden crates so both them and climbing claws can be gotten from fishing.
polar grove
thats an SIS right?
tepid root
looks like it
untold cargo
U can’t ask for specific items to be added in
hollow idol
this is indeed an item suggestion of the specific variety yes
frail mantle
it's no longer an SIS but the reasoning is a bit weak
rose latch
It's still SIS I think
frail mantle
kinda but not really
frail mantle
he only specifies that it's a Phantasmal Dragon summon, not anything else like function, method of obtaining, name etc.
void kelp
unfortunately, “coolness” is not a very good reason
sleek turret
yeah
sleek turret
whats a "SIS"?
frail mantle
specific item suggestion
sleek turret
ok then
now time to re-search the known bugs of calamity mod
e v e n m o r e d e e p e r
since i figured how SG spawn bug works
weak field
I mean, phantasm dragon is already kind of in the game
Stardust dragon looks very similar to it
Plus the reasoning is very weak
Nothing beside "it'd be very cool"
sleek turret
direct downgrade of stardust dragon?
nah
and also stardust dragon kills weapons that have piercing attacks, since no-piercing attacks have a different tipe of attack.
dont ask why this happens or else i will explain how this happens
halcyon magnet
Is this all about this suggestion that @pale glacier made?
golden narwhal
Yep
golden narwhal
Ye, it's very good
frail mantle
hahaues
halcyon magnet
I think they should nerf the water leeches
Its because of the fact that as soon they stick on you, you're dead.
wispy heron
I have survived it ONCE, I immediatley died after killing it because another hecking one attakced me
halcyon magnet
was it bee gun?
halcyon magnet
Its like thats the only way to not die from them
tawny garden
@mortal inlet add a reason
mortal inlet
In this chat or another?
faint needle
Edit your message there
hollow idol
in sug posting
sleek turret
First explain us, why you think "x item/thing" needs to be "x change/addition".
Second, make a "x reason" why do you want to "x change/addition" the "x item/thing"
sleek turret
thats a change.
frail mantle
also in your scenario why x needs to be changed would be why they'd want x to change
faint needle
Anyway the idea is that you just need a reasoning
golden narwhal
There was a sugg about this before iirc
mortal inlet
Is that a little better?
frail mantle
you'll need better reasoning than "it'd be cool"
faint needle
Besides "its cool, make it c o o l e r"
sleek turret
"it would be cool" its not a reason.
mortal inlet
That is true the main reason I want an upgrade is for more weapons that don't use ammo
golden narwhal
He goes a bit into detail on why it'd be useful
faint needle
Then use luiafk
sleek turret
Still not a valid reason.
golden narwhal
I mean, it is valid to want more weapons with infinite ammo
faint needle
Not really
Its really just nullyifing the point of ammo
If you want unlimited ammo use luiafk
mortal inlet
What is it
faint needle
A mod
golden narwhal
It's adding more diversity and options to ranger imo
faint needle
If you have 3996 of any ammo you'll have unlimited of it
unkempt bolt
if you explained why more weapons with infinite ammo would be a good thing for the mod, it would be valid
sleek turret
"then use luiafk" is the same thing as making all your weapons a elemental blaster.
unkempt bolt
but if you just want more infinite ammo weapons because you like them, that isn't valid
faint needle
Yeah but still
unkempt bolt
luminite bullets aren't real
mortal inlet
Okay thanks for letting me know about that I don't need an upgrade now
golden narwhal
It gives more options for players who don't want to manage their ammo
sleek turret
Yeah, thats the point.
unkempt bolt
tbf if people don't like ammo management, maybe the class focused around ammo isn't for them
golden narwhal
That's true
mortal inlet
Yeah
faint needle
Yeah
golden narwhal
then again, endless pouches exists for them
mortal inlet
I just am not a mage fan and that is kind of the next best thing
sleek turret
else
unkempt bolt
yeah in its current state, the suggestion isn't valid
mortal inlet
I might try rouge sometime but it is a class playthrough and I don't really want to switch
If I feel the sugestion is no longer valid can I take it down
golden narwhal
Ye
mortal inlet
How
unkempt bolt
right click on the message, click delete
sleek turret
Not really. You can change the suggestion, and also you can read the pins on #suggestions-posting
faint needle
Hold your finger on the message
mortal inlet
Okay thanks I'm kinda new to this
unkempt bolt
heisenberg's sugg also has poor reasoning
golden narwhal
unkempt bolt
the climbing claws suggestion is bordering on valid but i'd like to see more reasoning
sleek turret
Its a direct downgrade of Stardust Dragon.
heisenberg's sugg also has poor reasoning
@unkempt bolt
unkempt bolt
yeah it'd be available right after cultist, same as stardust
no reason for a worse stardust dragon of the same tier
faint needle
Yeah
golden narwhal
He's, uh, been pinged about it already?
faint needle
Idk
unkempt bolt
a valid argument could be made for the MNG materials to be made craftable
sleek turret
Also, please, before suggesting: remember about this combination of keys: shift + enter.
unkempt bolt
since calamity makes almost every other phm material accessory craftable
faint needle
Nope he hasn't tbeen pinged
@pale glacier there really is no point of having a directly worse stardust dragon at the same tier of it
unkempt bolt
and if it isn't at the same tier, there should be a good reason for it existing at its tier thematically
since a phantasm dragon could only reasonably fit post-cultist since that's the only appearance of the phantasm dragon
sleek turret
post-plantera maybe?
sleek turret
since phantasm dragon looks like its made out of ectoplasm
unkempt bolt
maybe post-polter cus of the phantasmal things?
faint needle
Yeah
unkempt bolt
either way that's up to the suggestor to mention
sleek turret
rover said yesterday i could re-send the SG Larger slime bug-fix suggestion, if i could not copy-paste and have even more new explanations of why this bugs happens and how could be fixed.
maybe i will re-search more about SG
So its time to do the full explanation.
golden narwhal
Add a reason
faint needle
Also you can't sugg endgame items
sinful steeple
Suggs are supposed to help the mod in some way and I don't see how this really helps
faint needle
Content actually helps
sinful steeple
Well I mean yeah but there's a lot of already existing post Polt summons
sleek turret
hey guys prepare for one of my biggest suggestions in my entire life.
golden narwhal
It's not how it would help, but how it would be beneficial
sleek turret
Change the Large Slimes spawn position in the Slime God fight
Actually, Large Slimes in the Slime God fight spawn in the Left and Right sides from the player, but there's a catch, do have a fixed spawn position. The reason why this happens is because they spawn of the sides of the player, the problem is when there's a tile that isn’t a platform/variants of platforms, SG Larger Slimes will not spawn, but if there’s a gap between 6-12 tiles (theory), they will spawn.
"but if there’s a gap between 6-12 tiles (theory), they will spawn."
There are 2 variants of these, the first one is they will spawn both in the sides, like in the normal fight. The second it’s a bit complicated, they will spawn, but one will spawn depending on what side the player is from the platform: for example, player is on the extreme left side of the tiles, only the right SG Larger Slime will spawn correctly, and the other will spawn below the platform and spawning in the "ground". (ground: means the tiles that are below the platform, for instance, this bug happens because the player is too high from the ground or there isn’t a tile for SG Larger Slimes spawn.)
Reason why this needs to be fixed: this needs to be fixed because players can cheese by using Slime God’s spawn on space or in a high platform.
Solution for this bug: The solution can be this: make both Larger Slimes spawn with the core so the core can spawn with the 2 Larger to prevent players to “cheese” Slime God’s Core.
i wish you could comprend about this sugg
sorry if its too large
hallow kraken
this is a bug report
tawny garden
@sleek turret "Fix Slime Gods Bug" is not a good way to start
cause #bugs-read-pins
that's better
sleek turret
i suggested the same thing but without info the day 01/07 and it got on #suggestions-voting .
and also its an expansion of the suggestion that i made
A way more depper expansion, with a lot of testing.
tawny garden
I dunno how it even got there, it had no reasoning
frail mantle
it's still more of a bug report than a suggestion
tawny garden
steep crown
Anyone ever notice that when a Suggestion hits like 150 Upvotes it just slows down. Like, My most recent one got 150 pretty quickly, and then it took like 4 days to get that last 20.
halcyon magnet
I haven't
steep crown
¯_(ツ)_/¯
steep crown
I dunno
halcyon magnet
Could it be to do with people online?
steep crown
Of course it has to do with people online
halcyon magnet
Like timezones
steep crown
Every interaction on discord is because of people online
halcyon magnet
There is something i want to say but its off topic
Like something to do with a calamity mage playthrough im doing
The next boss is plantera but...
Its going to take a while to find plantera bulbs, i know there is a recipe for the bulb but i don't remember it.
earnest vine
recipe browser
earnest vine
im pretty sure its called portabulb
halcyon magnet
I think that is the name for it
faint needle
Ye but don't they require living shards
halcyon magnet
So that suggestion about the tear of reality, it managed to reach to 170 reactions
faint needle
Also That's the Fargo name for it
halcyon magnet
This is the recipe for it
knotty moat
how many star things do you need for a uggestion to be implemented?
halcyon magnet
It needs to be approved by a mod or dev
that makes it more likely
to be implemented
sinful steeple
Yeah
knotty moat
if it got to voting doesnt that mean it was approved?
unkempt bolt
it was approved by the suggestion moderators
which means it was allowed to be voted upon
if it reaches 170 stars, it will be sent to the devs
at which point it will be considered by them
knotty moat
makes sense
faint needle
Btw if a sugg is so good it can literally get implemented before even being delivered to the devs
Very rare occasion tho
knotty moat
so what suggestions were those?
faint needle
I can't really remember tbh
indigo fog
most of the time those kinds of suggestions are to fix small oversights
zealous ridge
or they were ideas that were already being considered and devs were just like "oh so we weren't the only ones who wanted this okay into tHE GAME IT GOES"
knotty moat
ah makes sense
zealous ridge
i believe thats what happened with my sulphurskin potion sugg
faint needle
Or another one about cryogen visibility projectiles I think
void kelp
Or with tooltips
raven moon
i like the astral monolith one but lore wise it doesn't make sense as the wood is infected by a parasite
hexed spade
isn't the phantasam dragon suggestion a sis?
void kelp
It became even more of a SIS over a few hours
sinful steeple
I'd say it's bordering/is
void kelp
@pale glacier please modify your suggestion to be less specific, as well as provide reasoning
right now you have no valid reasoning and an awfully specific item
unreal viper
Giving lunatic cultist actual drops is a good idea for a sugg, you could mention how he lacks drops, unlike other bosses.
weak field
Eh I'd say it's a good idea
Cross mod compatibilities normally shouldn't be a problem
But there's always shit like Eternity+Revengeance moonlord
void kelp
Drop override bug is fixed next update
heady lichen
Fair enough
The drop thing was annoying as hell
My main problem was mech bosses, plant, golem, and fishron
destroyer was just incredibly tanky and dealt like a billion damage
robust lava
Because Calamity overrides Moon Lord's AI in rev+, it wouldn't drop any of the items from other mods. Idk why it was only for the Moon Lord though
hollow shell
Cuz Moon Lord's got a death animation, so his dropping mechanic works differently from other bosses
halcyon magnet
So its set that if the animation ends, drop loot a bit off centre of the sprite?
pale glacier
@void kelp will do
wooden wedge
wasn't this in the changelogs
hollow shell
Ah yeah
@sage granite https://discordapp.com/channels/225030931008847874/369115362186231809/716331496327086090
hollow shell
👍
sage granite
The Zen effect after a boss is something I'd never fought of before but reading it I gotta agree
halcyon magnet
You mean Boss Zen?
bold light
yes, where spawn rate for enemies is reduced to 0% (or almost 0% I'm not sure)
violet dagger
having a mod for boss zen would be cool
it's so good I miss it when doing other playthroughs
onyx river
I mean tbf it should prolly be part of vanilla but oh well (like what other games throw random mobs at you while fighting a boss)
hollow shell
I dunno if this is technically "QoL" but it'd be a nice change
aaand a suggestion died, I totally forgot what it was
hollow shell
24 hours passed, unapproved
violet dagger
sugg bot ate it
halcyon magnet
So a suggestion needs to be approved within 24 hours of being posted
halcyon magnet
Remember from yesterday about the suggestion for the DoG?
loud kayak
Yup I remember that
hollow shell
iirc it was fine, wish I coulda saved it
sadly I'm using mobile at the moment so I can't do asynchronous message copying
halcyon magnet
I feel like it will be implemented
loud kayak
🙂
halcyon magnet
It does make sense with the lore
There already is something close to a tear
Which is the thing that happens after the laser phase
hollow shell
(why are we talking about this)
dapper coral
not much point in talking about a sugg in voting tbh, at least not here
hollow shell
@void kelp You can access deleted messages right? There's a channel for it?
hollow shell
What was the sugg that just RIP'd
void kelp
Ah shoot the bot doesn’t track messages it deletes itself
it tracks literally every other deletion but if the bot deletes the message itself it doesn’t keep track
hollow shell
Well they're two different bots
and, damn.
I'll look around
Right, the SCal sugg
@mighty knot Repost that SCal suggestion when you can
Died on accident
halcyon magnet
See about the acid rain suggestion you made?
hollow shell
What
frail mantle
what about it
halcyon magnet
I think the water leech health for tier 1 and 2 should be like this
65 / 106 (Tier 1)
290 / 453 (Tier 2)
frail mantle
¯_(ツ)_/¯
i'm horrible at balancing so i didn't specify what the new health should be
hollow shell
You can't edit a suggestion when it gets approved
halcyon magnet
i know
Im just guessing what the health could possibly be for the water leech
if it will be nerfed
tawny garden
Well they're two different bots
yeah, every well-made bot will ignore messages from other bots
void kelp
- health kinda weird for balancing; probs good to leave to the devs
halcyon magnet
Probably is the best.
There is something I found out about
See the super dummies
When you place lots of them no mobs will spawn
(Well its quite obvious why.)
frail mantle
npc limittm
halcyon magnet
(Because of how it counts as an npc)
It would help if you were trying to build something in hardmode because of the high spawn rates.
unkempt bolt
i like the most recent sigh
sugg*
it seems valid and doesn’t seem to hard to implement
halcyon magnet
It would make sense for that to be added
mighty knot
that good?
tawny garden
When you place lots of them no mobs will spawn
200 NPCs is the limit, you can't have more in a world at the same time
the Super Dummy is an NPC
halcyon magnet
Because if you are trying to get the loot you wouldn't have to be bombarded with mobs everywhere
halcyon magnet
?
hollow shell
The most recent suggestion in posting.
frail mantle
i think so yea
halcyon magnet
Making it less dramatic
Like the same transition over and over with a bullet hell with new projectiles?
hollow shell
What
tawny garden
sieht gut aus
halcyon magnet
?
fiery rapids
where?
hollow shell
"At 40% health, SCal with transform"
Still understandable
I sure missed it the few times I read it
hollow shell
A lore item, of all things?
That's odd
because very few lore items are class-specific
unreal viper
Ye.
halcyon magnet
what lore item ?
unreal viper
I'd rather just have more sentry accs.
hollow shell
Monitor please, if something gets brought up in this channel spontaneously it's because something got posted in #suggestions-posting
radiant meadow
well, literally anything that had to do with sentries and armor sets has been denied
although an accessory might be a better thing to shoot for
hollow shell
I suppose lore items could be a last resort for suggesters
I don't know if there's been a generic sentry accessory suggestion in this vein yet though
radiant meadow
I don't think so
hollow shell
@sage granite As far as I can tell, only 2 3 of the 40ish lore items are class-specific
radiant meadow
most sentry related suggestions touch on the armors
hollow shell
Clonelamitas's and DoG's
violet dagger
what does doggo lore do
hollow shell
Clone boosts minion slots
indigo fog
and twins
hollow shell
DoG's boosts True melee damage
violet dagger
oh
hollow shell
Ah yes, Twins boosts rogue damage
sand umbra
yeah Twins lore at night gives invis effect
which is buffed to give various rogue bonuses
along with a couple of straight rogue buffs from the item itself
hollow shell
Regardless, an accessory would be a much more fitting & likely object to add a sentry boost to rather than a lore item
sage granite
Suppose an accessory would work but I was saying lore items to maybe add to a lore item without a buff or change an existing one but you have a point in an Accessory as iirc calamity adds no Sentry increases
sinful steeple
I think instead of adding something it'd be better to change most of the OOA +1 sentry accs because they're like all the same
halcyon magnet
ok
hollow shell
(btw I am going to let gare's suggestion get deleted, because it's somewhat weak and confusing and the purpose is already served by our existing channels)
dapper coral
yea, probably unnecessary
hollow shell
Pardon?
sinful steeple
Mushroom trees and those rock trees that probably don't count
hollow shell
The notable difference being that those do not grow from the Acorn item
golden narwhal
hollow shell
It can still be a suggestion
sinful steeple
Also I mean aren't the monoliths made of like organic rock or smth
hollow shell
If the devs disagree with it, it'll get rejected when it reaches the dev server
(though something tells me it'll either be approved or be a split vote)
golden narwhal
Then ye, seems alright
sinful steeple
Doesn't break anything just I wouldn't vote for it
golden narwhal
(Same)
halcyon magnet
The suggestion gabe made will be deleted in 1 hour and 30 minutes
halcyon magnet
because its weak
hollow shell
indeed
halcyon magnet
doesn't give that much information about it
golden narwhal
and channels already serve the purpose
halcyon magnet
theres the #changelogs and the #mod-announcements channels
hollow shell
mhm
I'll delete it
halcyon magnet
ok
hollow shell
How's Joshua's suggestion?
dapper coral
seems simple enough
hollow shell
(the earliest one, that is)
halcyon magnet
i see you deleted the suggestion gabe made
sinful steeple
Feels unecessary, shoe spikes and climbing claws are super common
halcyon magnet
sometimes it can be hard
golden narwhal
Seems alright, tho I'd add because other vanilla chest items are craftable because crates
Rngesus can just say no sometimes
dapper coral
i mean tbf you can get mods like imksushi or fargo's to provide alternative recipes but i suppose it wouldn't be a bad idea here
hollow shell
Climbing Claws can be found in crates.
Shoes Spikes cannot be found in crates.
golden narwhal
O
halcyon magnet
like using the token things to make the shoe things?
hollow shell
Thank you vanilla
dapper coral
or you can get old imksushi recipe enabler to just make them straight out
none of that token garbo
byeah funny vanilla crate loot
hollow shell
@bold light You could mention crates in your Climbing Claws/Shoe Spikes suggestion
Notably, see above.
Climbing Claws are renewable via crates, Shoe Spikes are not
radiant meadow
we did plan to do something regarding those when 1.4 tmod happens.
although I guess there's no reason it can't be done now
hollow shell
@steep crown That sounds like a Specific Item Suggestion
dapper coral
combining lores is no