oh you right, imbuing station
#suggestions-discussion
dapper coral
hollow shell
(Imbuing Station is obtained in pre-HM)
dapper coral
i never really used it so idk
aight i changed it to soaring potion and souls of flight instead
hollow shell
aight
tawny garden
you could also have a combined crafting station
like Imbuing Station + Mythril Anvil
hollow shell
That is true, that can be done
tawny garden
(which would be kinda weird)
dapper coral
that would be a bit funky, yeah
actually what does that? it's only chair and table for the clock, right?
void kelp
@@earnest vine
your suggestion needs a better subject line and also, there are weapons beyond eleray of that kind
[[Vivid Clarity]] exists
red stormBOT
earnest vine
yeah I was thinking about vivid clarity
I mean its just something I would like because I really liked the terra ray
void kelp
but I see what you mean by there being no weapon of the sort in-between
earnest vine
it isnt necesary at all, but it would be cool i think
void kelp
but you need better reasoning than “I liked this weapon type”
earnest vine
Im not very good at argumenting but you're right
well, it was just something I was thinking about thanks for responding though
hollow shell
alright
radiant meadow
@waxen pine shadowfish has a use next update
Brimstone fish is meant to be a potion material, but the potion isn't sprited.
hollow shell
You could maybe reduce the sugg to just Brimstone Fish to help stimulate the spriters :P
waxen pine
ok
unkempt bolt
actually what does that? it's only chair and table for the clock, right?
another example off the top of my head is profaned soul crystal requiring the profaned crucible and lava
violet dagger
then again tho who doesnt just grind provi for it
after scal its a 10% chance
so not crazy grinding
shadowspec bars saved
and more money for goblin scammer reforges
unkempt bolt
ye just an example of multi crafting station
ancient crow
watercandle needs crystal ball and water
hollow shell
Ye, a few items need Crystal Ball + liquid
sand umbra
mfw more people pointing out how wack Blood Orb potion recipes are
dapper coral
not more, just one of the same people doing it again
sand umbra
"more people" as in "I'm not the only one"
...or at least I'm pretty sure I've touched on this before
dapper coral
i feel like you have, yeah
sand umbra
but tl;dr Blood Orb recipes mean there is effectively no incentive to go and get the actual materials needed for the potion
when you can just pop any one of your favorite spawnrate megaboosters and go to town on Blood Moon enemies
hollow shell
Blood Orb recipes were always too expensive for me to do that reliably, in my experience
sand umbra
"but Thomas that's mainly applicable with other mods"
yes, and as Calamity is the biggest mod in the business, it is inevitable and unavoidable that it will be used with at least one mod that adds some way to spike spawn rates through the roof even fairly early on. this is what happens when you make a mod for a game that is popularly modded by other people and when the mod is played as a mod and not as a standalone game
(you can also use Battle Potions and Water Candles which actually do something in Calamity, and if playing in Death Mode the game basically does all the spawnrate boosting for you)
no matter what you do to make Blood Orbs rarer or harder to utilize, people will almost always pick them over the other recipes
because the other recipes are either too grindy for them, are locked to later in progression than their Blood Orb counterparts, or are simply less convenient
and the reward for using those recipes is easier access to some of the most broken potions Calamity has to offer
post-Skeletron Cadance will never not be funny to me
dry latch
I think one of the problems is that blood orbs are afk-able
the other mats can't say the same
sand umbra
yeah it's
dry latch
I mean if plants planted themselves, I'd prefer those instead of orbs
sand umbra
also incredibly easy to AFK farm Blood Orbs
you cannot do this with most traditional potion ingredients
dry latch
add to the fact that there are ways to manually summon them, so you can just call them whenever you're running low on supplies, makes them way better than waiting for your goddamn plants to grow
sand umbra
ye
like
there are countless advantages to using Blood Orbs
and because they are an enemy drop, which is extremely easy to abuse the fuck out of especially within a modded context, there is virtually no downside to using them
because you will have a theoretically endless supply of them no matter what
terse rain
Which is something I really enjoy as a player due to not having to make a plant farm for potions
sand umbra
but that's not a good thing
Blood Orbs completely invalidate the main balancing point of potions which is that you have to actually put in some work to use 'em
terse rain
That balancing point still stands early on
Calamity just replaces plant farms with blood orb farms
In the vanilla game potions are very easy to obtain once you have actual plant farms going
sand umbra
yes, because setting up a small pool of lava, chugging your favorite spawnrate spike, and taking a critical shit in your Auric Toilet while everything dies is very time-consuming and effortful
terse rain
And putting seeds in a planter box is lmao
sand umbra
yes I'm aware herb farming isn't particularly engaging either but you have to wait for your reward at least
terse rain
Herb farming is a horrible way to balance potions simply because of the fact that it’s just waiting for grass to grow
sand umbra
(also, most herbs require certain conditions to bloom, which acts as an additional balancing point that's incorporated into the power of the relevant potions)
terse rain
Yay we have a reason to wait even longer for our ingredients amazing
tawny garden
Am I the only one who found Blood Orbs harder to farm?
I just made my arena out of planter boxes
terse rain
Blood orbs are much better than herb farming imo but I agree that they aren’t perfect and a better method could probably be implemented
sand umbra
Blood Orbs are much better, yes
but the issue is how much better they are
there is no reason to engage in herb farming or fishing for 90% of potions in Calamity
sand umbra
because why do that shit when you can just wait underneath a lava layer and let everything perish above you while you flex
terse rain
Fishing and herb farming are not fun, blood moon farming can be fun and even if it isn’t it’s not something that takes as much time
sand umbra
it's still way too easy to exploit and makes two relatively major mechanics entirely irrelevant
do I agree that fishing and herb farming could be more engaging? yes
terse rain
I would almost go as far as to say necessitating fishing for some potions is absolutely awful and makes the game worse
sand umbra
do I think that means they should be invalidated in favor of a method that defeats the point of potions requiring anything other than that material at all?
no
sand umbra
terse rain
I don’t think that players should be forced through herb farming and fishing for potions at all
terse rain
They’re the worst part of the vanilla game and they’re unnecessary in this mod I definitely don’t want that to change
hollow shell
The bot is gonna be fucky and prolly not activate before morning but, before I sleep
Is the Slime God suggestion alright?
real steppe
tawny garden
yeah, it was implemented right away
real steppe
Its among the least voted suggestions right now, but it's among the first to get implemented
What do you think about that?
frail mantle
yea brav said he was gonna nerf it when we were discussing it
real steppe
(I mean the suggestion itself)
tawny garden
or he posted a sugg that devs were in the middle of implementing
frail mantle
real steppe
Why does it seems like the majority is against or is neutral towards the idea?
frail mantle
what, the nerf?
real steppe
Yes
frail mantle
that's cause at first he just went "this weapon strong, nerf please" so we told him to do some kill times and he did
real steppe
I don't play Melee so I'm among the ones who's neutral
tawny garden
also some people just don't wanna see nerfs
untold cargo
But they do have to happen
tawny garden
they do, otherwise the fun disappears
untold cargo
104% DR
real steppe
Speaking of weapon balance, can someone take a look at the Gacruxian Mollusk?
It's a pre mech Rogue weapon
I don't know if it's OP or not, but it has everything that I could ask for
untold cargo
It doesn’t look too OP I just checked the wiki
real steppe
Light source + Homing + Autofire + Pretty good damage + Low use time + easy to obtain
- Very good CC
untold cargo
CC?
real steppe
Yes
untold cargo
What it means
real steppe
Crowd control
untold cargo
Oh
real steppe
In this case, the ability to well.. Control a huge amount of mobs whether it by damage, debuff, or something else
It's a pre mech weapon that is viable against Plantera, Calamitas, and some other events
tawny garden
I believe that the weapons are balanced around rev bosses, not enemies, I might be wrong
real steppe
Fair enough
rose latch
I believe that the weapons are balanced around rev bosses, not enemies, I might be wrong
they are
real steppe
So it's balanced then, it's not that good against bosses after all
I am currently using it for the Lunar Events, and I can say that it is a mediocre weapon at that point
frail mantle
well i mean
it's pre-boss hardmode
obviously it won't be good against the pillars 
dapper coral
Tbf the fact that it can even be considered mediocre at that stage is kinda wack
real steppe
For a pre mech weapon, its still mediocre instead of being straight up trash
dapper coral
I mean, if it’s good enough to be considered mediocre at late Hardmode then maybe a nerf is in order
real steppe
It took me 4 minutes and 30 seconds to kill 100 enemies in the Nebula Pillar
Reaver armor set
Acc. (All Menacing)
Angel Threads
Asgard's Valor
Void of Extinction
Mothron Wings
Glove of Precision
Heart of Elements (visibility off)
No video evidence because shitty connection
Buffs:
Regen, Omniscience, Swiftness, Well Fed, Spite, Vigor, Resilience, Limber
3 minutes 55 seconds for Stardust
frail mantle
test it against the pirate invasion or something
onyx river
And also do the same tests with other weps on the same tier with the same equipemment to compare
void kelp
No
death mode is not intended to lock any content behind it
similarly to boss rush, it’s just a challenge mode
ashen warren
why are you using reaver armor instead of scoria or astral
untold cargo
Isn’t scoria called hydrothermic
hexed spade
yes
ashen warren
ogs remember chaotic
untold cargo
Ogs remember there being no such thing as chaotic or scoria
hexed spade
i thought gacruxian was garbage
frail mantle
it's a good starting weapon if you get it early on in hardmode iirc
unkempt bolt
gacruxian requires you to not throw it directly at the enemy
hexed spade
ik
radiant meadow
Since the bot is down for now, I'm going to post the top 2 approved suggestions manually so they're not just stuck in limbo.
hexed spade
how does a bot go down?
radiant meadow
That's unrelated and none of your concern
unkempt bolt
are we all good to post new suggs, or should we wait until bot comes back?
tawny garden
Ben, Rover already explained why it's down
radiant meadow
I know exactly why it's down
but I don't think a bot being down should just shut this place down.
The bot isn't mandatory. It's just helpful.
sleek turret
oh nice my sugg is in voting
cool
Can I explain the Slime God's bug with a paint?
void kelp
we already know the bug
sleek turret
we just found a solution to it
hexed spade
what is the point if you mostly do not need phantoplasm?
dapper coral
*ectoplasm, probably
oh wait nvm
yeah that doesn't make much sense, you're hurting your own sugg by saying that
hexed spade
and i would say post DoG you do use phantoplasm alot
hollow idol
I always need phanto at that point 
hexed spade
for things like accessories
indigo fog
yeah it's used in a lot of weapons and accessories that use cosmillite
waxen pine
maybe there could be phantoblood as an item instead of using ectoplasm to craft it 
violet dagger
by the time u have draedons forge polterghast is easy
so u can just grind that
for phanto
also the formatting
hexed spade
or laser walls can inflict chaos state
unkempt bolt
like, when they hit you?
hexed spade
yes
civic pond
That doesn't make sense
unkempt bolt
^
civic pond
You could just rod out of the way before they hit you then
hexed spade
i was kidding
civic pond
oh ok
unkempt bolt
ah
obtuse compass
I think this suggestion can be something in revengence or death
and can actually be applied to many other bosses
unkempt bolt
since the mod is balanced around rev, im pretty sure suggs are implying rev unless stated otherwise
but i didn't want to specify because it's up to the devs where they draw lines
sand umbra
can't just wait for the upcoming laser wall changes, can ya?
unkempt bolt
upcoming laser wall changelogs aren't too specific on how they work
sand umbra
which is why you should: wait
unkempt bolt
or optionally, i could suggest it under the assumption it still applies
hollow shell
They are pretty significantly different next update, but I suppose this sugg could still apply
(Also RIP bot. Thanks Ben)
radiant meadow
ye, they're very different
I haven't played with it myself, but I think rod will be less impactful.
there's less running I think
hollow shell
It is indeed easier to not run
hollow shell
@ashen warren That's not really a suggestion, more like an advertisement
ashen warren
Why is this a suggestion?
gray nebula
if he's supposedly everywhere why havent i heard of him once 
explain this
ashen warren
Anonymous suggestion i mean
hexed spade
What is this suggestion
ashen warren
if he's supposedly everywhere why havent i heard of him once :epic: explain this
I mean, i never heard of trump until 2015
proud parcel
And if you order 5 songs from him in the next 15 minutes, he'll throw in an extra one completely free of charge
frail mantle
if the devs need new music they'll ask someone to do music
also remember that they still have two musicians on the team
hexed spade
this is just an advertisement
ashen warren
It isnt tho lol
Plus there are aleady a few people making music for calamity, Dokuro isn't the only one
gray nebula
it kinda is
radiant meadow
we don't need music
wooden wedge
Bruh?
frail mantle
it is
wooden wedge
How can that not be an advertisement
ashen warren
didnt dokuro leave lol
frail mantle
he did yes
ashen warren
didnt dokuro leave lol
I know
frail mantle
^
wooden wedge
Dokuro left but what does that have to do with anything
gray nebula
rover drive
ashen warren
Besides, all ingame tracks are finished anyway
frail mantle
and pinkie
ashen warren
We'll get new music when new content arrives which is a long time bcs of tmodloader update
Until then just wait
radiant meadow
If someone were to make music, it'd be someone that we trust.
hollow shell
Something tells me Andrew Hulshult's music sounds like this 
Anyway I'll just delete that message now
ashen warren
If someone were to make music, it'd be someone that we trust.
👍
hexed spade
also does that person even know about calamity
proud parcel
Wth is that music, and why is it titled as if it's supposed to be for calamitas?
gray nebula
calamity style music 
hollow shell
(really old file from before SCal's theme was made and people were trying to make placeholders)
proud parcel
(I'm glad that wasn't chosen)
radiant meadow
surprisingly enough, this dude is on wikipedia 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Hulshult
ashen warren
what a shame. I just wanted to convince the devs to hire this guy because he does good music
hollow shell
ah...?
radiant meadow
hire?
hollow shell
Oh, hire the dude
ashen warren
The devs will decide who to pick
radiant meadow
devs don't get paid
hollow shell
You see there's your first problem
wooden wedge
If you wanna convince them the best way to do that is to not
ashen warren
If someone were to make music, it'd be someone that we trust.
^
wooden wedge
Since it wouldnt happen that way
frail mantle
the calamity team already had musicians anyway
wooden wedge
(rover and pinkie)
ashen warren
ok I'm trying to do 10 things at once and there are 100 people in chat
hollow shell
ok
hexed spade
?
wooden wedge
There's like 5 people in chat
wooden wedge
and that's on you for trying to do 10 things at once
ashen warren
i thought the devs are at least somewhat compensated like open source software developers
hollow shell
We have a Patreon
wooden wedge
They aren't
radiant meadow
we work on it for free
hollow shell
That's it
wooden wedge
Devs here don't get paid because they said no to the offer
frail mantle
fab offered to pay them with the patreon money once but they declined
ashen warren
well, that's extra respect to the devs on my part
Besides, even if the dude gets hired, he'll need to be aware of the calamity fanbase
IK that a mod isn't quite as big as a low budget game made by one dev but I wish my suggestion was at least considered
wooden wedge
This mod is actually pretty big
ashen warren
Yeah
frail mantle
well you gotta remember that even if dok left, we still have musicians
violet dagger
^
gray nebula
I'm pretty sure this has been repeated multiple times already
violet dagger
ye tons of people on the calam team def have good music composing skills
ashen warren
the musicians do great work for people that don't get paid jackshit
ashen warren
not at all
wooden wedge
Who's iban
ashen warren
you do make cool sprites
I will admit, at first i'm not used to calamity music not made by dok but it eventually grew on me
Rover's acid rain theme is one of my favorites now
Ok i'll stop
gray nebula
yeah rovers acid rain track slaps 
wooden wedge
Oh yeah rover made current acid rain theme
ashen warren
mine is the d.o.g theme
ignoring the coders and spriters
Them too
bruh. i play more standalone mods than proper games and all modders have my utmost respect
all I ask of is for someone to actually consider this.
hollow shell
Thanks for the respect but like, iunno why you're vouching for this guy so heavily
Are you his brother
frail mantle
radiant meadow
we're not going to consider it because we don't need a musician right now.
all of our bosses already have custom themes.
hexed spade
we need a cal clone phase one theme
frail mantle
no
hexed spade
ik it was a joke
frail mantle
i'm assuming you're memeing but cal phase one is meant to mislead you
ashen warren
Yep
i think that the guy is good for calamity because he is a small professional that is an absolute powerhouse that is very reliable and does music for almost anything
like dusk and amid evil
Does the guy have bells in his music?
hollow shell
There's like
Three, maybe four themes minimum we'll need in the future
and like 8 themes maximum
We can likely deal with the two guys we already
ashen warren
If not then no
and he did the entire doom soundtrack a remake for a mod
the idea is there incase of a shortage
Yep
called it idkfa because he considered the fanbase
ashen warren
I mean, the calamity music is a seperate addon
The dude can just make his own version of calamity music and make it an addon
even if it's a big part of the game
i guess he can!
hexed spade
are you allowed to do that?
ashen warren
do what? am i breaking the rules rn?
frail mantle
nah
hollow shell
But you are kinda
... going on for a while
ashen warren
I mean there are some fanmade calamity addons
frail mantle
he's just wondering if remaking cal music in its own mod would be allowed
hollow shell
Your suggestion is already deleted
ashen warren
good to know this isnt yanderedev discord
hollow shell
ok
ashen warren
Anyway again, "won't happen, can't happen"
It's up to the devs
not if they don't see the suggestion and have a good upfront reason to consider it
i think i failed with the latter and the former
crude geode
They really don’t have a reason to consider it though. There’s already people on the dev team who can produce music, such as Rover, so it’s really not necessary. Especially not right now.
hollow shell
It'd be hard to make the devs consider hiring somebody they've never talked to before to join the team
considering the rest of them are all pre-established community members who work for free and this guy may have never even played Terraria before
ashen warren
oh well, i wish my skillset covered anything that could make calamity even better but unless you need something 3d printed I'm out
hollow shell
alright, see you later
ashen warren
i guess it's a case of would you trust a guy who proved himself with his work like your fans did with determination and loyalty.
hollow shell
indeed
hollow shell
ah
sleek turret
Inflict Chaos State during Devourer of Gods' laser walls.
This change here would make DoG's fight more hard. Also DoG's Lasers do a lot of damage and they are pretty skipable going down or use RoD. I agree with this sugg, and also I think it will be good to add more lasers on the vertical and horizontal sides of the lasers spawn
radiant meadow
astral bulwark doesn't give gsi immunity anymore
hexed spade
yeah
radiant meadow
that changed quite a bit ago
crude geode
Wasn’t this already suggested a while ago?
hexed spade
that was changed along time ago
radiant meadow
it's a response
sleek turret
oh
radiant meadow
but laser walls are getting major changes next update
this likely won't apply as much anymore
sleek turret
they are?
crude geode
Yeah
sleek turret
oh great, more suffering
weak field
I mean, the laser wall currently aren't that big of a threat so I'm fine with it
There're always gaps inbetween easily accessible
distant gyro
if you rod you will have a chance to mess up laser walls from what i tried
weak field
Yes altix, you might just run straight into the next one
sleek turret
there's a time between every laser spawn
weak field
Or get rekt by the increased fall speed from normality relocator
distant gyro
im talking next update
faint needle
Wait what happened to the bot?
crude geode
sleek turret
so you can take advantage for that time to skip some of the jumps
there's a time between every laser spawn
@sleek turret
hexed spade
died
radiant meadow
the bot is down.
sleek turret
Wait what happened to the bot?
@faint needle Gone, reduced to atoms
radiant meadow
that's all you need to know
faint needle
Oof too bad
ashen warren
might I rephrase my suggestion and let the devs decide no matter how unlikely my desired outcome might be?
sorry for going off-topic again
sleek turret
Oh, I see now Lasers will try to telegraph the player like the Doppel Calamitas dash-attack before the next update.
https://discordapp.com/channels/225030931008847874/369115362186231809/717100051603783791
@crude geode
ashen warren
yeah, sorry! me engrish no good.
sleek turret
Doppel Calam dash-attack screwed my life a lot of times
Brimmy laser didnt affect me too much
hollow shell
(I've never seen somebody dislike a warning before an attack because it makes the attack harder)
crude geode
ye
sleek turret
But the "phase 2" of brimmy (the phase that shoots high acceleration attacks, and she gets less damage) actually screw me up to this day
violet dagger
well not really a buff imo
crude geode
I might take this time to mention how it’s unintuitive for some random lasers to disable a player’s ability to use one of their tools, and how this was suggested in the past and was not at all popular.
https://discordapp.com/channels/225030931008847874/263382359397761025/709541669308989571
violet dagger
just making it less weird where the laser doesnt keep going around
it will make the fight more fast paced
hollow shell
ah
violet dagger
and less weird trying to dodge the laser
hexed spade
45 votes is not alot
hollow shell
That is quite notable
@unkempt bolt
You can keep the sugg I just thought you should
see that
hexed spade
?
frail mantle
you'll need better reasoning than "it'd be cool"
hollow shell
@ashen warren You need to format your sugg correctly
Main idea at the top on a separate line, reason below
violet dagger
what is this sugg
hollow shell
And yes you need more reasoning than "it'd be cool"
crude geode
^
violet dagger
providence having a radiance type intro
ashen warren
well what do you want me to say it isnt game changing its just a cool thing
violet dagger
well u need good reasoning
hollow shell
Do you have any reason for it to be added beyond ""thought it would be pretty cool""
no elaboration or anything?
hollow shell
Any reason why it would be cool or why people would like it?
sleek turret
You need to have a proof, a reason why, and a explanation why it should be added/fixed
hollow shell
Okay well
Probably shouldn't have the suggestion
crude geode
you don’t really need all that,,
hollow shell
At least until you can think of something
crude geode
^
ashen warren
im thinking give me like an hour and i will be back
hollow shell
ok
ashen warren
Besides, we already have enough boss quotes anyway
unkempt bolt
yeah i remember cata’s sugg
sleek turret
Like my Suggestion, since the Slime God bug was in the mod like a lot of time, I thinked "i have an answer for this".
ashen warren
While it would be a neat feature, i can't see any reason for it other than "cool"
violet dagger
make DoG have an intro that says "LAST WORM BOSS I PROMISE"
sleek turret
Actually it would be a QoL feature
ashen warren
Oh yeah
radiant meadow
did you seriously?
hexed spade
still an advertisement
radiant meadow
repost it?
sleek turret
But take care of the Potato PC/Mac/Linux players
hollow shell
Fuck.
This is still worded like an advert
weak field
That'd be pretty cool
radiant meadow
after several people gave it a solid no?
gray nebula
and you know yourself it wont get accepted
ashen warren
Also i can imagine when you spawn Scal, the intro could be similar to NKG
violet dagger
oh ye
gray nebula
i really dont understand people that already know their sugg wont get accepted yet that still suggest it
weak field
It will be very cool
violet dagger
programming is the problem
golden narwhal
It's actually possible
violet dagger
not sure how a title thing could be designed like that
ashen warren
Am i blind or did that dude just reposted his sug?
violet dagger
he did
sleek turret
S t o p m a k i n g d u m b s u g g e s t i o n s .
crude geode
He did
ashen warren
Wtf?
hexed spade
ashen warren
I thought that guy learned his lesson?
crude geode
(Also people stopping making suggestions isn’t gonna happen)
Apparently not
frail mantle
i think he went offline
sleek turret
Also his suggestion is not well made
hexed spade
still online just not responding
ashen warren
For the boss title cards, what do you think of this idea? I find it neat but if the devs said no then ok
hollow shell
@ashen warren That's still worded like an advertisement
ashen warren
ok sorry
hollow shell
well I mean I guess not exactly but it's still not a traditional suggestion
ashen warren
My bad rover
hollow shell
It still has fuckin
"hey devs, if you're lookin for somebody..."
And uh title cards could be cool
weak field
Boss title cards are very nice and immersive to have
wooden wedge
well it doesn't anymore since it got yeeted
ashen warren
didnt know it was a repost
wooden wedge
,,,,,
ashen warren
It's just a small QoL change
hollow shell
That's not what QoL is.
ashen warren
this is what happens when you're crashing graph comm IG
But i'm not suggesting it tho
hollow shell
Okay
weak field
Imagine scal saying stuff like let's see how you are holding up this time if you died 10 thousand times
ashen warren
i have been cursed
hexed spade
?
ashen warren
I just somewhat agree with it
sleek turret
But take care of the Potato PC/Mac/Linux players
heady storm
Mfw bug report suggestion. 
hollow shell
I'm not sayin it's a bad idea, I'd like it
ashen warren
and everything i say makes me sound like an influencer or corporate shill, goddamn
gray nebula
yeah isnt smth similar already on the doc anyways
weak field
Or scal saying stuff like good job last time if you killed her without getting hit
hollow shell
also what, Chetto
sleek turret
😦
ashen warren
"the cosmic scourge, devourer of gods" for an example
ashen warren
I'm not sayin it's a bad idea, I'd like it
Of course, i'm not gonna force ya'll to add it
hollow shell
I'm just gonna dip until things calm down cya
ashen warren
I think oliver just needed to word it right
weak field
"The last worm boss, edgy lord of the cosmos, Devourer of thots GOD"
ashen warren
yes im not good at wording things lol
crude geode
(Chetto spends so much time on the wiki that he forgets what normal English language is)
ashen warren
Same here
gray nebula
god of time, ex ruler of the multiverse : YHARIM
heady storm
No I'm blind Cursed.
weak field
But yharim didn't show any time-based skills
ashen warren
yes with a badass on screen text to show you really fighting a god
Noxus, the universal destroyer
wooden wedge
what I'm getting from the discussion is more of a zelda twilight princess vibe,.,.
ashen warren
Crabulon, THE PERFECT ONE
wooden wedge
for boss intros
unkempt bolt
crabulon, the perfect one
weak field
Xeroc, the universal de-destroyer
unkempt bolt
lmao
crude geode
~~Ah I see 
~~
ashen warren
King slime, just a thicc slime with a crown idk
weak field
And custom boss spawn sound
violet dagger
DoG, the final final final worm boss please trust me kthxbai
unkempt bolt
just make calamity 2
sleek turret
Desert Scourge, the dehydrated counterpart of EoW.
weak field
Calamity 2 confirmed?
wooden wedge
eow??
heady storm
So everyone's gonna ignore Oliver's suggestion needs proper formatting or?
wooden wedge
yes.
weak field
Uh, isn't it the dehydrated aquatic scourge
ashen warren
what if you had an NPC that comes with a newspaper after every major boss fight with some story about how you (an absolute badass) managed to slay the devourer of gods?
boss title screens to go along custom boss spawn anims
DoG tearing through a wormhole
Calamitas spawning through a brimstone supernova
weak field
That'd be cool
wooden wedge
byeah @ashen warren your sugg needs to be formatted right
wooden wedge
with the header being seperated by a line break
ashen warren
ok thank
wooden wedge
which you can do with shift + enter
weak field
Uh, see the suggestion made above yours
sleek turret
press shift+enter for line break
ashen warren
Honestly tho imagine custom boss spawn anims
sleek turret
Say goodbye to my 4GB of Ram then
weak field
First thing I think about it is what if it's laggy
golden narwhal
It's not
ashen warren
Again, not suggesting it.
golden narwhal
At least, what I've seen
weak field
And most boss spawn off screen so you probably wouldn't see it 
sleek turret
Also it will be on the config for players who dont want to spawn the title or the animation
ashen warren
The one custom boss intro i can think of is Ancients Awakened mod. Yamata, Akuma, zer0, Shen doragon
crude geode
Wanting criticism/opinion about the idea is why you would bring it up here instead of immediately posting it
ashen warren
Or the boss intros could just be a fanmade addon for calamity
weak field
I've always wanted them to stfu and fight me already
ashen warren
I've always wanted them to stfu and fight me already
Maybe make it just a one time thing?
weak field
Why not, like the sentinel phase in dog final phase
ashen warren
I do see a flaw tho
sleek turret
Fanmade Additions would be Translations too
ashen warren
It's like an unskippable cutscene
sleek turret
Since the Spanish translation exist.
ashen warren
it happens once, if you die it never happens again
Make it a one time thing
Bcs people die alot to the big 3
And it would be hella annoying having to sit through the entire intro all over again
So there's a flaw solved
I guess?
sleek turret
yeh
ashen warren
What are your thoughts?
unkempt bolt
another potential flaw is that the sugg could fall under the "big effort" don't
crude geode
^
ashen warren
Fair point
Plus not everyone has a good pc
So that stuff could seriously screw up your ram
sleek turret
optional, it could be a option in the config to turn it ON/OFF
unkempt bolt
intro cards for every single boss when nothing like that has ever been done in calamity
ashen warren
So just make it a small addon i guess
Plus i don't think i've ever seen intro cards in any terraria mod at all
unkempt bolt
someone said that ancients awoken or whatever has them
tawny garden
optional, it could be a option in the config to turn it ON/OFF
If you wanna experience this mod fully, get a better PC.
unkempt bolt
i've never seen them myself so i have no clue how they work
ashen warren
AA has no intro cards
Just boss spawn animations
swear it does i read somewhere that it does
unless i was dreaming
unkempt bolt
ah okay they might've been referring to that then
ashen warren
Dreaming
unkempt bolt
haven't been following this convo too closely
sleek turret
If you wanna experience this mod fully, get a better PC.
@tawny garden i play with the lowest config ever and also have some strange thing that i boost bosses life up to 900%
ashen warren
Wait wha-
sleek turret
just for fun also
unkempt bolt
no that's calamity lul
unreal star
oh wait yeah
hexed spade
oliver you still need to remove the it would be cool part
unkempt bolt
it's in configs under "boss health multiplier" i believe it's called
unreal star
that is a config option
sleek turret
And yes. You can make King Slime have 40000hp
hexed spade
sleek turret
And I made some math, SCal can have a max of 88.000.000 life
tawny garden
or SCal have 88000000
sleek turret
yeah
hexed spade
oh god
tawny garden
high five
sleek turret
900%
unkempt bolt
+900%
sleek turret
100%+900%=1000%
tawny garden
ashen warren
200% MAD
crude geode
@unkempt bolt By the way, might want to at least wait until the update drops to make a suggestion about laser walls, considering they’re getting changed pretty radically next update.
ashen warren
hold
sleek turret
normal boss life is 100% so 100 + 900 equals: 1000
ashen warren
on
unkempt bolt
rover said the sugg might still apply
unkempt bolt
fabsol speaks in tongues
ashen warren
Well Fab's OC does look like she speaks in tounges
sleek turret
also farming post-plantera moons will be more easy post-yharon phase 1
kinda good now
zergs
crude geode
m
I would still wait to see if it still is neccessary, just like with any change.
unkempt bolt
if im understanding the changelog correctly, i believe the same issues would still arise
ashen warren
All i know is that the laserwalls will have telegraphs
Similar to EoL's laser swords attack
crude geode
I mean, according to the change log the velocity of them was increased a lot, but we can’t tell by how much until the update actually drops really.
unkempt bolt
yeah now that i think about it
it probably wouldnt be an issue assuming the laser walls would function similarly to EoL swords
i'll delete and drop it in my archive
crude geode
Yeah
ashen warren
Sure
crude geode
If it’s still a major thing after the update, then repost away
ashen warren
Someone gave me a DoG suggestion in private chat
He didn't post it yet
Since he needs criticisms and opinions first
wispy heron
WHEN Xeroc gets added I would honestly just love for the rock to featured in some way
ashen warren
nah imagine if the dog would like roar and shit in the fight
Basically they should give DoG animations
wispy heron
idk how but it would be funny
frail mantle
i don't think a worm shitting would fit in the mod
ashen warren
yes his ultimate weakness
Like his mouth, you know apotheosis animation?
haha yes i was going to correct myself
wispy heron
oh yeah true
ashen warren
I'll just post it here
also animated DoG with like roaring sound effects would be pretty cool
make him scarier
Add more dynamic animation and features to DoG.
Add an idle/attack animation to DoG's head, and an animation throughout his segments. I feel like he is lacking a tad bit in personality. The original version of him when his scales gradually came off to reveal an ethereal body underneath was a neat concept, and it would be an unique feature like being able to damage him elsewhere other than the head or tail (of course it would be heavily reduced damage, but could help with damage per second nonetheless). The jaws would have an idle ‘sway’ to them while moving. When close to the player(s), the jaws would open, similar to Apotheosis. After missing or successfully ramming the player with his head, he would snap his jaws shut, either going back to his idle animation, or his attack/bite animation, depending on how far the player is away from him, including which phase he is in.
This one is sent to me by @hardy arch
I'm just posting it here Abel so people can give their thoughts, sorry buddy
hollow shell
"The original version of him"
Que?
ashen warren
The dude is still working on it
ashen warren
no hold on ancients awakened definitely have boss title cards i just saw with akuma
i screenshot next time
wispy heron
adding on to that, maybe you could break parts of him or other bosses similar to how the mechanic works in MHW, like it just changes his model and maybe slightly impairs his attacks with broken parts
ashen warren
@ashen warren post it on #other-mod-talk so we can see
i cant
so here
wait what
fucks sake hold on
adding on to that, maybe you could break parts of him or other bosses similar to how the mechanic works in MHW, like it just changes his model and maybe slightly impairs his attacks with broken parts
Too much work, but would be neat like cracked armor, wounds etc.
Also sorry for pinging you
no worries
hollow shell
yep it does appear to be possible
ashen warren
Wait i don't remember that
When did they add it?
dont remember
Just asked the AA discord
1.0.3 version
Which came out not too long ago
hollow shell
@ashen warren He will, spoilers.
At least during Phase 1 I know for sure. Maybe during Phase 2
(Also he already roars when you spawn him)
ashen warren
oh that's cool
golden narwhal
ashen warren
yeah but thats just once and most of the time barley notice is
it*
i want it to be like really showing off its fucking huge and it will kill you
obtuse compass
Make dog roar like a dog during the fight? sounds epic
ill definitely pay for that
ashen warren
Make Calamitas roar too
Jk
i am thinking of more cool ideas but only small ones bc i hate work as much as the next guy i have not done any of the work my school has assigned me
unkempt bolt
try to not think of cool ideas, but more ones that you think will benefit everyone who plays the mod
hexed spade
like disabling auric tesla carpet because its completely useless
unkempt bolt
cough
ashen warren
it's not completely useless smh
hexed spade
why are you allowed to vote for your own suggestion?
formal cobalt
because it's only 1/170 votes
unkempt bolt
because it'd be really difficult to stop you
formal cobalt
or that
unkempt bolt
just make the cap 171 ez
ashen warren
172 because the bot votes as well
ashen warren
.
i wouldnt vote bot because even if i did want something it would selfish to the rest of the community you know?
unkempt bolt
if i suggest it then i think it's a good idea
if i vote for it, it's because i think it's a good idea
golden narwhal
I mean, you are part of the community
unkempt bolt
its up to you
the vote means your vote means as much as anyone else's
no reason you shouldn't cast yours
subtle oracle
hmm, Ben seems to have replaced the Sugg Bot 
ig its been dead recently huh
ashen warren
we should get a comically large spoon if you beat scal first try
No brimstone
Just look at the resprite
ah nice
the comically large spoon
Imagine Yharim's ultimate weapon is just a comically large spoon
violet dagger
watch that spoon be a new weapon
the new best dev weapon, introducing the SPOON, dedicated to random person 123451014
ashen warren
the item description better be
"only a spoonful.."
The spoon better deal 9999999 damage
radiant meadow
stop meming in here please
ashen warren
the true comically large spoon if you add a broken heros sword
radiant meadow
this is for suggestions
ashen warren
oh im sorry
polar grove
can I get some feedback on my sugg before I post it?
polar grove
Make more of the bosses spawn naturally
Currently there are only a small amount of bosses that spawn without killing something or using an item for it. If more bosses spawned naturally it would give more of that "Oh crap!" vibe vanilla bosses have when they randomly spawn on your first playthrough.
radiant meadow
you can still edit it if it's in #suggestions-posting
ashen warren
yes
golden narwhal
That has been sugged before iirc
polar grove
yeah but I dont want to edit it a hundred times to fine tune it
violet dagger
deathmode be like
polar grove
has it?
polar grove
yeah but death mode just spawns a random boss
ashen warren
Imagine if Scal just randomly spawned
robust lava
It’s not random
violet dagger
^
wooden wedge
yeah but I dont want to edit it a hundred times to fine tune it
you're still gonna have to do that either way if it's posted in posting or not
robust lava
It’s dependent on conditions such as what biome you’re in
faint needle
Yeah its biome based
polar grove
not entirely
violet dagger
there are certain factors that say what will spawn
polar grove
but the message doesnt really give away what boss is going to spawn
violet dagger
that is probably something that could be done in the future maybe
robust lava
The spawning system would have to be changed then, because I think it determines what boss to spawn at the moment of spawning, not when it sends the message
golden narwhal
Checked back, not sure if it would be a bluecheck, since my sugg wasn't specifically just natural spawning
polar grove
basically i wanted to have bosses randomly spawn if it would make sense for them to spawn at that point in progression and they arent things like siren or astrum deus
in all modes
wooden wedge
all modes would be kinda,,,,,.,.
polar grove
it doesnt really make sense to me for ravager or PBG to be spawned by some random item that isnt really mentioned anywhere else
violet dagger
just do it for the easy bosses when ur not near npcs
polar grove
^
violet dagger
nobody wants to be in the jungle then randomly pbg comes out of nowhere and wipes out the whole village
robust lava
I feel like PBG could be made like Deus and spawn after a few Plaguebringers have been killed
polar grove
that seems fair
violet dagger
the spawning system for deus is being changed next update
let me see if I can find it
polar grove
but the way i wanted it is like the vanilla mechs where they have status messages and then spawn 30 seconds later or so
i guess i didnt really get that across in my sugg
ashen warren
because that makes sense
violet dagger
dapper coral
i don't think any new bosses or anything will be added until 1.4 calam is a thing, if that's what you mean by major update
dapper coral
but i think balance changes and stuff like has been goin on in #changelogs will still continue
ashen warren
if i was in their shoes i would probably only add small things until 1.4 calamity is a thing
dapper coral
existing boss AIs and all that
ashen warren
one hurdle at a time
It would be awhile til we see a new boss
Since calamity needs to suit 1.4 first
violet dagger
ye
violet dagger
they said they wanted draedon out by 2020 somewhere
dapper coral
anyway, back to the sugg
ashen warren
But i'm looking forward to them tho
violet dagger
but that's probably not happening
ashen warren
they said they wanted draedon out by 2020 somewhere
It may even be next year
polar grove
Make more of the bosses naturally spawn with a status message for it
Currently there are only a small amount of bosses that spawn without killing something or using an item for it. If more bosses spawned naturally with a status message like, say, "Infernal stomping echoes from the distance" for Ravager, it would give more of that "Oh crap!" vibe vanilla bosses have when they randomly spawn on your first playthrough.
I edited a bit to make it more clear what I wanted
ashen warren
Since tmodloader may update to december
violet dagger
I was expecting august but we don't really know
dapper coral
i think this sugg is fine, although idk if the new example is necessary
violet dagger
tmod devs haven't said anything about progress
ashen warren
must be working hard i presume
faint needle
Bruh August is just a few months
violet dagger
so I guess we'll have to wait
dapper coral
maybe just say like, "a message similar to how EoC goes 'you feel an evil presence yada yada'" instead
ashen warren
oh shit august
faint needle
Definetly after octomber
ashen warren
aw i have to go to school before then
polar grove
the bootleg status i wrote is just an example
dapper coral
yea
polar grove
there
golden narwhal
Wait, are there actually any calamity bosses that just spawn with a status message?
polar grove
afaik there are none
dapper coral
astrum deus, with the three titan kills
that's literally it
and even that is changing soon
polar grove
and polter with his "you killed a phantom" message or whatever it is
dapper coral
and great sand shark but he don't count
polar grove
thats practically it
polar grove
but seriously you wouldnt expect ravager to be spawned from some random medallion
dapper coral
those two only spawn after killing a bunch of dudes and having 2+ status messages
polar grove
also shouldnt https://discordapp.com/channels/225030931008847874/263382359397761025/727289800503328799 have a checkmark now?
polar grove
i know
hollow shell
The top line of this sugg could be a bit clearer
Almost sounds like you're saying that pre-existing natural boss summons should become accompanied with status messages
hollow shell
ye I can see, but that could be clearer in the wording of your bolded line
hollow shell
"Make more bosses spawn naturally, and have status messages to accompany them."
Maybe.
hollow shell
Yeah sure you can
polar grove
thanks
weak field
Oh crap
hollow shell
Also
Should I "approve" of HouseOfOnion's suggestion?
It's.. not great, but is it good enough?
ashen warren
i like it
polar grove
eh its fine
hollow shell
Arguably yes but I think it's fine
It's just a vanity set
of something pre-existing
It's not like there's any amount of effort or specificity in its execution, really
unreal viper
I'd like it personally. I find new bloodflare ugly tbh.
I guess that's the kinda look they're going for.
weak field
Yeah I mean it's pretty cool to have a vanity
golden narwhal
Prolly change the header to reflect it being just vanity
unreal viper
Ye.
weak field
I like the new bloodflare more tbh
ashen warren
what did the old bloodflare look like?
hollow shell
It's in the suggestion.
hollow shell
And well, he do say "Like even as vanity" and Ancient God Slayer is a vanity
hollow shell
I'll approve it
ashen warren
🙂
dapper coral
might as well
weak field
Can't say that I like it, but it is fine as a suggestion
hollow shell
RIP bot again, btw
ashen warren
is cool bro no worries
see with signus how he like lightly obscures your vision?
what if the storm weavers started a storm during the fight
idk how it would work
but it seems appropriate
polar grove
storm weaver starting a rain would be interesting
but his fight doesnt last long enough for that
hollow shell
We could do that but it might be annoying
Also I thought he already did that, at least in the past
ashen warren
yeah thats why i wasnt sure
golden narwhal
Ye, thought he does
ashen warren
because it seemed like it would have a problem with it going on and off
polar grove
and then again you do fight him in space, which means you wouldnt really see it regardless
ashen warren
true actually
polar grove
unless you want to fight enraged SW lol
ashen warren
haha me and friends kept doing that bc we had no idea it was easier in space
i eventually said fuck this and went godmode
i would kinda like if npcs reacted to you doing things such as killing DoG i mean yeah some do but most are just not giving a shit you killed a literal god outside
the only time they reacted to shit was when half of them were killed by the destroyer and then they had a party
indigo fog
storm weaver already starts rain once you summon it
violet dagger
storm weaver raining is fine imo
with cryogen it was a problem
since his projectiles were the same color as the rain
ashen warren
yes
violet dagger
but sw doesnt shoot any rain colored projectiles
ashen warren
for me a couple of times when fighting providence she despawned so like what if she also had the fire tornado things to stop despawning?
that'd make the fight way harder
golden narwhal
Day?
radiant meadow
are you sure it just wasn't night time?
ashen warren
i swear it wasnt
hollow shell
She'll despawn if it transitions into night mid-battle iirc
ashen warren
ye but it was like
radiant meadow
she does
radiant meadow
so
hollow shell
Ah
radiant meadow
multiplayer
hollow shell
Multiplayer.
hollow shell
Not exclusive to Providence, I think this can happen with any and every boss
ashen warren
ah i see
violet dagger
i cant tell u how much times im like an inch away from provi and then she despawns and im like what the fuck since i didnt check time before fighting
ashen warren
i cant think of any more suggestions
radiant meadow
then don't suggest anything
ashen warren
but when i do i will
keen sable
on screen boss title cards
ik i'm late but there's going to be a minimod released that does that
made by the aa lady
ashen warren
oh damn
keen sable
they already got thorium's permission
ashen warren
thats pretty sick
golden narwhal
Pressed enter too soon?
violet dagger
ummm for the tax collector one who even gets him
nobody ever remembers to bring the purification powder
formal cobalt
Tax collector isn't bad
violet dagger
or maybe after defeating providence there could be different messages
hollow shell
@upper tulip Probably should mention that you mean hints for summoning them, in your top line
violet dagger
"A fast shelled worm is scavenging the sky"
hollow shell
Rather than just
hints in general
red stormBOT
violet dagger
nope
ashen warren
it doesn't
violet dagger
just says different parts of the world
or maybe the quotes could be from amidias
since amidias has that help button which basically makes him a guide for calamity
hollow shell
Strange that he doesn't give the specific locations either
violet dagger
it could definitely help since with mods u dont exactly want all the hints and stuff on the wiki
that pretty much spoils you
(but i mean who doesnt use the wiki)
rose latch
Most people use boss checklist
real steppe
Is there a debuff that disables autofire?
violet dagger
what weapon u using
real steppe
Plaguenades
I mean, a debuff that disables autofire from any autofiring weapon, regardless of class
hollow shell
"Cursed" (and therefore Feral Bite) will do that but I doubt you're getting inflicted with that
iunno, maybe you don't have Ankh Shield or Asgard's Valor 🤷♀️
real steppe
Fair enough
I would like to suggest a debuff that does exactly that, but it seems like there is such thing already
hollow shell
Oh, that's what you were leading into
Cursed disables item use altogether and therefore stops your autofire
I don't think there's one specifically for disabling autofire but still allowing you to use them with repeated clicks
Not sure how that'd be inflicted or why we'd wanna do that
inland viper
I've been toying with the idea for a while; would a wall that disables Abyss health drain in the air while you're in front of it be a good idea? I admit that it opens up some potential cheese, but I'd love if it were possible to make a base in the Abyss, and this was the best idea I had.
hollow shell
Cheese could be an issue. I'm unsure about that.
Maybe when 1.4 rolls around, we can make an Abyss Pylon that prevents air-drowning while you're nearby (and would be hard to cheese cuz you need to have NPCs nearby to place Pylons iirc)
inland viper
You actually don't; pylons just need NPCs to use them.
hollow shell
I see.
inland viper
That's even more cheeseable.
hollow shell
A shame.
violet dagger
or expand on those effigies
pulsar lagoon