I am a pp enthusiast
#suggestions-discussion
warped pollen
indigo fog
Also about that tracer wings suggestion, giving tracer wings their own special effects like any other wings isn't a good idea in my opinion. They're already really strong options as they are, and giving Celestial Tracers hover functionality or giving Elysian Tracers a fast fall would only make other wing options worse in comparison to them. If anything hover functionality should be moved to Drew's Wings so it could actually compete with Celestial Tracers, Drew's Wings are better than Celestial Tracers in one aspect, which is giving you extra flight time that you don't need. Celestial Tracers already are wings combined with running boots and can give you extended immune time, so giving it a hover would make it way too good compared to Drew's Wings. The entire point of Seraph Tracers and its upgrades is to be a worse wing option without a bunch of special effects, because unlike other wings they come with the enormous benefit of saving you another slot. They really don't need to be buffed.
unkempt bolt
okay
hollow shell
omniscience should affect literally everything he throws out
That's a fair point izzy
because I personally never ever unequip tracers for wings
dapper ferry
And like I said, it's dark during the fight and he throws out his projectiles at the edges of the screen, where it's darkest
indigo fog
actually i'm gonna make a suggestion to make drew's wings better compete with celestial tracers
dapper ferry
I much preferred him without the blizzard
unreal viper
A lot of people actually prefer drew's wings due to the flight time.
indigo fog
That increased flight time is pretty insignificant because you don't really use up all the flight time Celestial Tracers give you when fighting SCal
unreal viper
I agree.
unkempt bolt
i prefer drew's to tracers for scal because i dont touch the ground during the fight
unreal viper
But the run buffs are also pretty useless for scal.
indigo fog
Celestial Tracers also give you extra immune time
unreal viper
That's why I use them, yeah.
I think that there's a stronger argument for buffing stuff like the tarragon wings.
toxic pagoda
ive always gone drew's over tracers
unreal viper
I really don't understand why you'd do that.
indigo fog
I don't see the point in sticking with drew's wings even if the running boots won't help, Celestial Tracers are upgraded almost instantly and give you extra immune time
unkempt bolt
i dont find myself getting hit often enough for the extra immune time to matter
indigo fog
the extra flight time doesn't really help
queen sail
Honestly
unreal viper
But some people prefer them, and they are clearly superior in one aspect, so I feel like a buff isn't needed.
queen sail
Is tracers giving more immune frames supposed to encourage using it
hollow shell
(Fun fact, the extra immune time doesn't do jack shit because SCal uses custom i-frames for all attacks, along with most other post-ML bosses)
unkempt bolt
queen sail
Sooooooooooo
queen sail
What’s it even for then 
indigo fog
oh ok then
dry grotto
boss rush gets you 2shot anyway
queen sail
We’re sure as hell not gonna use it for the one other boss left
That cages you, anyway
toxic pagoda
tbh I say make tracers post SCAL and buff them
queen sail
post scal
dry grotto
no
queen sail
We have no main content after that
unkempt bolt
dev accessory 
dry grotto
scal will always be moved further btw
since scal will always be a post-story boss
or it should atleast be
since it's a superboss
unkempt bolt
no she won't
unkempt bolt
she'll be demoted from superboss in the future
toxic pagoda
yharim after SCAL
unreal viper
Wiki says that tracers i-frames actually do matter in the scal fight.
hollow shell
SCal will become a regular boss, Yharim will also be a regular boss
queen sail
Bee did you forget that she’s supposed to be demoted eventually
hollow shell
Noxus and Xeroc will become the superbosses
queen sail
queen sail
No
toxic pagoda
he was scrapped
dry grotto
unreal viper
Plz no.
queen sail
Noxus And Xeroc are the two superbosses
hollow shell
Noxus is Goozma
toxic pagoda
O
queen sail
Also Noxus is hella miss bc trade out interesting scenario for “generic cosmic evil that gets mentioned one or two times in the main story”
But this isn’t lore chat
dry grotto
i mean, isn't that how most superbosses work tho
look at the superbosses in final fantasy games
queen sail
Yes but see: “generic”
queen sail
I can’t add other emotes
dry grotto
he better be
queen sail
onyx river
And then normal mode Xeroc is like fighting all post ML bosses at once on DM with preml gear
unreal viper
Please don't give him any diolague.
hollow shell
No dialogue planned afaik
unreal viper
Yay.
dry grotto
xeroc should talk tho
queen sail
Xeroc already talks
unreal viper
I always felt like scal's diolague took away from the fight.
hollow shell
Well he already does yeah
onyx river
Wat
dry grotto
he better talk about the creation of terraria itself
onyx river
where
onyx river
oh i see
dry grotto
also, draedon should talk like that one guy from kid icarus
queen sail
Why not just give
queen sail
Draedon the personality of Agnus
hollow shell
This is offtopic
queen sail
@hollow shell dyntos
hollow shell
btw
queen sail
But ye
onyx river
Imagine draedon not knowing how to read
queen sail
Nahhhhhh rover
gray nebula
my favorite evenn,,,,,,,,, OOA 
queen sail
It’s just #suggestions-discussion being #suggestions-discussion
Also it’s hard for anyone to touch ooa bc it’s ass
hollow shell
easily distracted 
dry grotto
i do admit tho, OOA needs to have a reason to be fought
cause atm it's like
"haha funny dragon"
queen sail
You can’t even appreciate the dragon bc of the event’s specific gameplay
hollow shell
Aren't all of the weapons really good
and the armors moderately overpowered
queen sail
Yes but there’s nothing else going for it
indigo fog
aerial bane too
dry grotto
the armors are only op in normal/expert and even then it takes insanely long
toxic pagoda
vesuvius is what I used to no hit PBG
queen sail
Betsy is probably the one thing that ooa is worth doing for
onyx river
It's legendary tho
dry grotto
and even then, u can speed through post-golem insanely fast
dry grotto
and there's the chaotic bar armorset
onyx river
The wings are pretty good in terms of mobility doe
hollow shell
Betsy wings are pretty sex
queen sail
Yes, I need 5 minutes to prep every time i complete a wave
indigo fog
Betsy's Wings are really good
ashen warren
I was talking about buffing it after one of the post Moonlord bosses like what they did with the Pumpkin/Frost Moons, and making it mandatory.
hollow shell
mmmmm people would not like it to become mandatory
toxic pagoda
/\
onyx river
Yes
unkempt bolt
yeah ooa sucks
onyx river
waiting isn't fun
dry grotto
how about making it so u can spawn betsy outside of the event
indigo fog
also betsy's curse is buffed in calamity iirc
queen sail
mandatory
void kelp
OOA is one of those super tedious things that I often skip
queen sail
Give me your address
dry grotto
"fake Crystal"
queen sail
Honestly
onyx river
how about doing a manual trigger for next wave
dry grotto
spawns betsy
queen sail
Can we kill the fuckin timer
ashen warren
OOA is easy.
queen sail
dry grotto
OOA is not easy
ashen warren
And I play Revengeance mode usually.
dry grotto
it's tedious af for when u do it since u need to get the sentries
hollow shell
OOA is pretty hard to do on-tier in my experience
onyx river
Ehhhhhhhh betsy + clusterfuck of ennemies is
dry grotto
the only way it becomes easy is with the tier3 sentries
ashen warren
I never get the sentrys.
onyx river
But summoner is chad for OOA
ashen warren
It's easy without them.
dry grotto
and even then u can easily lose cause betsy makes it so u can't kill the regular enemies
onyx river
^
dry grotto
then when betsy's about to die your crystal suddenly gets rekt
and u have to repeat the whole event that u spend like 10 minutes on
onyx river
The sentries are here to kill the trashmmobs while you kill betsy
toxic pagoda
give crystal immortality but a timer to live once betsy spawns?
dry grotto
also, the crossbow sentry sucks
ashen warren
Guess I'm just good at crowd control then.
onyx river
What gear u using
toxic pagoda
Is playing on normal mode
toxic pagoda
stormbow works in rev post golem OOA?
indigo fog
was that for post-mech ooa or post-golem ooa
onyx river
Could you show a screenshot (or tell us wwhat you have including armor and accs)
toxic pagoda
I could record OOA post golem in rev with stormbow and post golem ranger
ashen warren
Don't have my game open. But I can say that I have Plague Bringer armor for post golem.
And the Magic Quiver, along with the Deadelous Emblem.
Hovever you spell that.
toxic pagoda
know what, I now wanna find all the most viable class setups for post golem OOA so I can make a guide
ashen warren
People underestimate the Stormbow.
void kelp
nah, it’s not underestimated
toxic pagoda
u still use holy arrows?
void kelp
I don’t use it because of the principle of the thing, it’s waaay too strong
onyx river
Yeah basically a leg wep
queen sail
people underestimate stormbow
onyx river
but without the absurd drop rate
queen sail
literally one of the first items this mod nerfed
toxic pagoda
speaking of nerfs, Im so happy the last prism nerf is going away
onyx river
Maybe sugg another stormbow nerf then if it beats OOA post golem
dry grotto
last prism is an odd weapon and idk why it got nerfed
toxic pagoda
and dark spark needs a buff
queen sail
Probably the same reason dan made araghur immune to it
toxic pagoda
dark spark is so cool but other weapons like venusian trident, ghastly visage, and stratus sphere are waaay better
dry grotto
the thing with last prism is tho that it deals more damage when concentrated
yet it uses so much mana that u're always firing it at 50% dps
indigo fog
dark spark is so cool but other weapons like venusian trident, ghastly visage, and stratus sphere are waaay better
Did Dark Spark get nerfed or something? I remember it being like really good
toxic pagoda
I can only manage like 16k DPS with it
dry grotto
it's just outclassed by most other mage weapons at the same tier, izzy
toxic pagoda
stratus sphere is freakin amazing tho
indigo fog
I can only manage like 16k DPS with it
DPS on what
toxic pagoda
actually lemme test it on boomer real quick so I can get more accurate results
ill test dark spark against 3 things: post polter acid rain, OD, DoG
tawny gyro
how much of a frequent suggestion is "change set bonus mechworm to something else"?
wooden wedge
not frequent?
tawny gyro
weird, i'd expect it to be often
like, i get the idea of making a set bonus minion that you can upgrade on your own
but now that co(r)vid harbringer and cosmic viper are in the game it's kinda underwhelming, even when you use all your minion slots on mechworm segments
not even mentioning it's AI
hollow shell
I think we got that sugg once before because someone thought it was forcibly "taking up" a minion slot
even though we would have accounted for that
You could suggest that it be given a unique minion like all other armor sets
tawny gyro
the problem i have right now is that my main reason is "since it's there, and you can upgrade it, you're pretty much forced to do so"
which is false, since you can just ignore it
but the fact it's an option feels like an implication you're supposed to do so
hollow shell
It is indeed the only armor set minion you can upgrade
which makes it kinda unique
in that the minion itself isn't unique
tawny gyro
i'd say "if it had better AI then i guess it'd be okay"
but afaik trying to change anything for mechworm is absolute suffering
hollow shell
... I'm wondering if it'd be possible for the God Slayer armor to give you a single special mechworm segment that shot lasers or something, so it was more useful
That may also be hell
dapper coral
what was the consensus on cataclysmic's sugg? iirc it was cool but it would be a butt-ton of work for devs to implement which is discouraged?
hollow shell
Just more sounds?
That's not that bad
hollow shell
Considering this sugg pertains to my work I can just approve it :P
And I'll delete the old one cuz custom death animations are a Don't anyway
hollow shell
Do we think the Mega Dummy sugg is good enough now?
cyan lagoon
i don't think it'd hurt
wooden wedge
it's kinda meh imo
wooden wedge
and like
actual boss testing
which is a lot better in application than something with no AI
hollow shell
Actually yknow what
@bronze mauve For making your sugg fully optimal
you shouldn't title your sugg "Mega Dummy" and instead make it something like "Add a Super Dummy upgrade with adjustable size (or greatly increased size)"
(and remove that first line in your body, too)
so that way the main idea is in the main line, and so you don't give it a name which is a bit SIS-like
bronze mauve
ok screw it im just deleting that and writing a new one
hollow shell
Aight fair enough
bronze mauve
there
wooden wedge
@bronze mauve formatting
bronze mauve
@hollow shell
tawny gyro
Current problems with Mechworm being the God Slayer Set Bonus (for summoner):
- It's not unique
- Extremely weak if not upgraded with Staff of the Mechworm, even compared to other set bonus summons
- Upgrading costs minion slots, and even then other on-tier stuff, such as Corvid Harbringer or Cosmic Viper have more DPS
- Mechworm's AI is at best questionable, sometimes ignoring the enemy or tailing behind them instead of staying on top
bronze mauve
@wooden wedge fixed
wooden wedge
mm
hollow shell
Aight this is better
tawny gyro
honestly i think DPS against dummies is there to test the theoretical maximum potential of a weapon
and also what Schmiggle just said
wooden wedge
same could be said for testing against bosses
hollow shell
I mean yeah you could just test against bosses
but also like
why would Super Dummies exist at all then
bronze mauve
exactly
tawny gyro
bosses move around a lot, and test results vary, even with the same setup and method, because the boss can just decide to dash in a different direction or enter a different subphase
bronze mauve
by that logic you could test stuff on lunatic cultist instead of super dummies
very convenient
(no sarcasm totally)
wooden wedge
how about like
tawny gyro
oh boi, time to activate lunar event everytime i want to test my weapons
wooden wedge
giving the ability to give dummies defense and DR
hollow shell
(at this point we're just tryin to recreate Luiafk's Patchwerk)
wooden wedge
does it let you change it's defense?
bronze mauve
no
hollow shell
Yes
Even iframes, iirc
tawny gyro
relating back to my mechworm sugg, are there any other problems you guys can think of?
hollow shell
Are you sure about that?
Because I'm fairly sure it lets you change defense
wooden wedge
I can test
hollow shell
s'in the tooltip
you gotta enter a command in chat to do it
bronze mauve
huh
tawny gyro
wait what
hollow shell
Yeah may as well
It's fine on its own
bronze mauve
alright
tawny gyro
does it say in the tooltip you can change their defense?
or, does it say you need to type in chat to change their defense?
wooden wedge
should be
hollow shell
Could be your filters
wooden wedge
check your filters
hollow shell
Doesn't let you see it cuz it's already installed, perhaps
tawny gyro
also on an unrelated note cuz i just did testing, is endo hydra supposed to just kinda detach and go onto an enemy when you desummon it?
cuz that was kinda weird
hollow shell
Pardon?
wooden wedge
hollow shell
yeee there we go
tawny gyro
that's the luiafk dummy tho, not the calamity one
tawny gyro
ah
hollow shell
Cuz I mean yeah, it is definitely the optimal dummy
The only thing it doesn't have it like
boss movement patterns
for maximum replication
tawny gyro
i feel like that'd be wack to program tho
hollow shell
Prolly yes
wooden wedge
maximum replication is just testing on bosses though,..,
hollow shell
true
tawny gyro
okay, time to use my last 7 braincells to make a good sugg about changing mechworm
tawny gyro
i managed to do a "add more bombs" sugg without making it a "make bomb-only viable", so i think i'll do well
seems to be fine
i never understood having the empyrian there myself
btw, about my bomb sugg ("add more pre-hm bombs"), was it another split-decision by the devs?
cuz it's been greenmarked for quite some time
hollow shell
Devs had no thoughts on it
tawny gyro
so pretty much a rejection, okay .-.
radiant meadow
you know
I'm not obligated to complete any suggestions
or even look at them
but I do occasionally
dry grotto
i'd love to see an accessory that combines most of the "true melee" accessories
hollow shell
(we appreciate your work, Ben)
(The fact you bother at all does mean a lot)
toxic pagoda
ok so I was just testing a buncha magic post polter weapons
Dark Spark is at best mediocre
tawny gyro
Change the God Slayer Summoner Set Bonus to not be a Mechworm, or change the Mechworm somehow
Reason: The concept is fine on paper - make an upgradable set bonus minion. It stands out. However, there are a lot of problems with it, mainly:
- Because you upgrade it with the SotM, the minion isn't unique (like all other set bonus minions).
- Without any upgrades, the mechworm is pretty much useless, even when compared to other set bonus minions.
- Upgrading it costs minion slots, and even when fully upgraded the mechworm does less DPS than weapons like the Cosmic Viper and the Corvid Harbringer.
- The mechworm AI is... okay, at best. It either ignores the enemy, tails behind them (but not close enough to do contact damage) or circles them (and it starts from far away, so you need to wait for it to get close to deal damage).
how's this look?
hollow shell
That looks good.
wooden wedge
wouldn't the formatting break it or?
tawny gyro
i did shift+enter to make paragraphs so the bot shouldn't spill its beans
unless you mean bolding?
wooden wedge
I thought more than one line breaks killed the bot
frail mantle
nah it shouldn't
tawny gyro
i did a sugg with more than one line break some time ago and it worked
wooden wedge
ah ok
frail mantle
i've had suggs before that had more than one line break and didn't die
hollow shell
Demik's first sugg seem fine?
wooden wedge
I think so
tawny gyro
vanity's never a bad idea
isn't the paladins hammer a 25% chance?
that's not that low
true socket
No it is a 9.8% chance
hollow shell
Weirdly enough, it's affected by Defiled Rune
And it's a vanilla drop, which means it will get boosted
crude geode
weirdly enough, the wiki only says that "Affected vanilla rare items are given an additional +5% drop rate." in the Defiled Rune page
hollow shell
Indeed
This is still true
crude geode
To me it just feels very non-descriptive
hollow shell
wdym?
crude geode
The wiki doesn't specify something like "drops below 15% chance" or something like that. It just says "affected vanilla rare items".
hollow shell
Indeed
Because the precedent is kinda wonky and I'm pretty sure a few of them are oversights :P
That's why you have a list of all the items it affects
It's supposed to be any items below 5%
(except RoD because RoD)
crude geode
oh god I forgot about that list
hollow shell
It's only a few pixels away from where you were reading
crude geode
About God Bee's bloodcore bullet sugg...that just feels like a big balancing pain.
Cosmic Bar bullets seem fine, but the rapid fire rate that guns naturally have would make any type of thematic lifesteal bloodcore bullets a bit of a problem.
toxic pagoda
someone please tell me what the point of clamor noctus is
it has just about 0 purpose for where it is in the game
true socket
The Paladin Hammer is so annoying to get and so that is why i suggested the craft
toxic pagoda
cant u use zerg and defiled?
true socket
zerg will not end well and the defiled rune is only like a 5% more chance of getting rare items
hollow shell
You could suggest a recipe for it yes, it's fine
(and include in the sugg why Zerg+Defiled would be a bad idea, to cover your bases)
crude geode
Post-Plantera is kind of since most weapons/access craftings are after they become useful
true socket
wdym
crude geode
For example, enchanted sword's crafting recipe is in Harmode, and Waterbolt requires a spelltome
true socket
mhmm
gray nebula
asking to remove a weapon
crude geode
@toxic pagoda Removing weapons almost never happens.
gray nebula
gray nebula
toxic pagoda
ig
gray nebula
adding "asking to remove weapons" to the don'ts doc when
crude geode
Honestly it prolly should happen
hollow shell
naw, it's fine
crude geode
nvm
gray nebula
when was a weapon removed thanks to a suggestion tho
hollow shell
Hrm
gray nebula
idk removing content is something that very rarely happens from a dev decision, let alonge a suggestion
in most cases, a rework is better
hollow shell
There's Chibii's sugg asking to remove the melee variants of rogue weapons
and that got approved
gray nebula
but it's not really removing a weapon tho
crude geode
that's kind of a very specific example
gray nebula
only "part" of a weapon 
toxic pagoda
aight I fixed the suggestion
removal is #4 and I stated that the other 3 options are probably preferable
hollow shell
Aight thats better
toxic pagoda
but seriously, Clamor Noctus really does suck
hollow shell
How do we feel about these three most recent suggs?
Any feedback for any of em?
toxic pagoda
The summoner DoG one is interesting
that might be a bit of a pain to discuss tho
and add to the game
true socket
how does a suggestion get to the suggestion voting
frail mantle
a mod approves it
true socket
ah ok
hollow shell
ye
Me, in this case
wooden wedge
someone who is certified approves it with ✅
frail mantle
well, Rover or a mod/tmod
toxic pagoda
@true socket you got an idea for a specific Paladin's Hammer recipe?
true socket
not exactly.... but i think it needs somethings like hallowed bar and living shard and other stuff like that
wooden wedge
why'd you need a specific recipe
hollow shell
Specific recipe isn't needed yeah
crude geode
I kinda don't like the formatting on Dean's sugg, mainly bc of how spaced out it is.
Also yes.
hollow shell
Devs will figure something out
wooden wedge
that's up to the devs for if it goes through
true socket
ok
toxic pagoda
[No quantities in mind] but I'd say holy water, purification powder, abyssal warhammer, and living shards
wooden wedge
does deans sugg need those options?
hollow shell
Abyssal Warhammer is a strange choice
wooden wedge
because of the whole devs deciding part
hollow shell
and yeah those options are fine
toxic pagoda
@crude geode if that's something that's unappealing for most including yourself, I can fix that
hollow shell
I think you could just get rid of the doublespace before the options
toxic pagoda
ok
hollow shell
Turn into a single space
Removing any of the other spaces would make it too much of a wall of text
imo
crude geode
I'm mainly worried about it when it goes to being formatted and embedded by the bot
hollow shell
That's not a problem
crude geode
and how it could take up a lot of space in voting
hollow shell
Or at least not a technical problem
crude geode
yeah, it won't be a technical problem
toxic pagoda
how's that
crude geode
that's better
toxic pagoda
is the bold good on the options or no cause the main header is already bolded
crude geode
I don't think the bot cares
toxic pagoda
ok
toxic pagoda
do suggestions that get approved always come in packs of 3?
crude geode
No
wooden wedge
nope
toxic pagoda
or is it just any suggestion that's good
wooden wedge
any sugg that gets approved gets approved
crude geode
Any good sugg
toxic pagoda
I'm new to the changes in the suggestion system in this discord so I didnt know
wooden wedge
check the pins
hollow shell
Particularly, read the topmost message in #suggestions-posting
wooden wedge
(it's also pinned,,.,.)
frail mantle
there'll usually be a burst of several suggs approved simultaneously yea
crude geode
it kinda depends on the mod/dev as well
frail mantle
yea
hollow shell
I spose I'll just ask
Apart from WeatherReport's Auric Tesla suggestion, does anybody have any feedback about the suggs currently in posting?
(feel free to ping the people in question if you do)
wooden wedge
bloodcore bullets were already sugged were they not?
toxic pagoda
that sounds like something that could be suggested often
wooden wedge
discord refuses to let the search funtion work properly
also no
it's been sugged like 2 times
hollow shell
I don't think it's too common afaik
toxic pagoda
huh
holy fire bullets arent bad
onyxia and holy fire bullets against Yharon is pretty damn good
dry grotto
i know
but i just feel like there's more opportunity for unique bullet effects
and again, consistency
toxic pagoda
I get it tho
dry grotto
why should arrows get special treatment over bullets while bows get a 20% dmg boost potion
toxic pagoda
like maybe bloodcore bullets could be weaker but give lifesteal or something
dry grotto
yeh
toxic pagoda
having a choice with ammo is never a bad thing with rangers
dry grotto
vanquisher bullets should be portalled bullets if u ask me
as in: they get shot directly from where your cursor is
wooden wedge
@ashen warren there's 3 tiers to OOA, tier 1 is when you get the tavernkeep, t2 is post mech bosses/ 1 mech boss(?), and t3 is post golem
dry grotto
at the cost of being weaker than some other bullet types
ashen warren
Yeah I remember post golem, just forgot to mention it.
wooden wedge
add it to the sugg
ashen warren
I was talking about some fourth post Moonlord one. But I didn't know people didn't like the OOA
toxic pagoda
@dry grotto logically Cosmilite bullets should be better than pre-providence bullets, but the problem is Onyxia (and other guns) are already so damn good with holy fire, so post-DoG bullets would probably need to be a little weaker than Holy Fire but have homing or something
dry grotto
homing + portal effect
that'd be cool
would be a pretty darn good synergy with the skullmasher as well
which is a doggo drop
frail mantle
new post-Holy Fire bullets would mean rebalancing post-Holy Fire guns with the new bullets in mind which would be kinda
toxic pagoda
unless the bullets themselves aren't stronger than holy fire bullets
frail mantle
cause they're not really needed, guns work when you have them post-ML, even though the only post-ML clam bullets are Holy Fire
toxic pagoda
I gotta admit that DoG bullets probably aren't needed, but blood core bullets with lifesteal would be interesting
frail mantle
tbh just giving them lifesteal would be kinda boring, it'd be better if bullets and arrows from the same set had separate effects
dry grotto
atm the only exotier weapons for ranged are bow, rocket launcher (i think) and a flamethrower
toxic pagoda
What if DoG got healed by Holy Fire Bullets because DoG feasts upon divine energy
dry grotto
guns get no love on that tier 😔
frail mantle
i know Terra bullets/arrows exist but i don't really like how they're the same except one is boolet and the other is aro
toxic pagoda
you practically don't even use terra arrows until later anyways
Ballista and Blossom Flux both have their own ammunition
crude geode
using Blossom Flux normally in a playthrough 
toxic pagoda
shitty weapon?
crude geode
Blossom Flux is a legendary
frail mantle
byeag either Terra bullets or arrows getting unique effects so they're more different would be epic
toxic pagoda
the best ranger weapon from plantera is definitely Venus Magnum
way better than blossom flux
toxic pagoda
not surprised my suggestion isn't getting many stars
Clamor Noctus is already becoming a forgotten weapon due to how bad it is
frail mantle
well not every suggestion gets fifteen hundred stars immediately after posting
wooden wedge
you don't need to censor yourself
toxic pagoda
aDD yHaRiM tO tHe gAmE
*gets 318098952349085 stars
wooden wedge
it wouldn't
toxic pagoda
ik lol
wooden wedge
since meme sugg
toxic pagoda
Give Brimstone Elemental bigger boobs
toxic pagoda
so literal you are...
toxic pagoda
a meme or two doesn't violate this channel
tawny gyro
i, for one, haven't voted on your sugg because i haven't played calamity mage yet
and as such i have no opinion on whether or not said weapon is good
toxic pagoda
understandable
you'd probably agree with me if you did play mage and used clamor noctus, but thats fair
no need to star something you haven't even seen
tawny gyro
i'll be playing mage after i'll do a melee playthrough
and i'll do a melee playthrough after i finish my summoner playthrough
so i've got quite a way to go
toxic pagoda
I've been playing calamity for two years and have gone through every class multiple times so I know quite a bit about weapons, class setup, etc
like if you give me a random point in the game and say what class, I'll probably have a generally good guide for weapons and accessories
@tawny gyro what class u playing rn
summoner cause your suggestion? or am I wrong
crude geode
This is for discussing Suggs, Dean. Take this convo to dms or calamity mod talk if you want casual conversation not relating to suggestions.
toxic pagoda
tru
copper orchid
Well, ethos doesn’t hurt to back up the reasoning behind a suggestion, but I think there needs to be a clear reason related to weapon balancing, regardless of who suggested it.
And you are saying that the weapon does too inconsistent damage?
toxic pagoda
and @crude geode a brief description about a playthrough can reinforce or contradict a suggetion
like for example, if a suggestion said something along the lines of Summoner being bad against Providence, I'd ask if they are using too many elemental axes, and encourage them to use many plague jets
copper orchid
Ok, what about the suggestion that you just sent? Cursed Being does have a point that you are a little off topic here.
crude geode
Your point is valid. Yet your suggestion has already been approved and gone to voting.
toxic pagoda
yea ive moved on from discussing my suggestion at this point
crude geode
Ok
radiant meadow
tier shifting clamor noctus and removing it entirely aren't things that will happen
because clamor noctus is part of a weapon set
void kelp
@vague laurel would be a bluecheck + probably in the works
hollow shell
Actually I don't think it'll be a bluecheck cuz the cutoff date got moved
void kelp
ah
hollow shell
This'll be the new bluecheck target
indigo fog
i feel like this has been suggested a lot though
civic pond
thats probably because it has been
since so many people have suggested it now, its either in the works or will hit the quota
hollow shell
After this gets accepted, should we add it to the Frequently Suggested Don'ts, actually?
indigo fog
probably yeah
hollow shell
prolly.
frail mantle
ye
crude geode
Ye
hollow shell
Anybody got feedback for him before approval?
crude geode
Nope.
dapper coral
seems fine to me
civic pond
I think its good
vague laurel
void kelp
i want to note that
💹 comes up before ✅ sometimes
and when im tired they look the same.
i may or may not have accidentally reacted to some suggestions with 💹 before
dapper coral
that's actually kinda hilarious ngl
dapper coral
what is that even supposed to be
void kelp
yen stocks??
subtle oracle
Yen
hollow shell
I personally approve of this one
I like concise tooltips and I do feel like it's unnecessary to have the same explanation over and over
ancient crow
I agree with the post provi bullet sugg, but it would probably have to come with a HF bullet nerf
at the moment, despite being available pre providence, HF bullets are fully capable of lasting the rest of the run (assuming you upgrade your guns)
if more tiers of bullets were added, HF would have to get nerfed
dapper coral
can i get any feedback on my sugg? it gets yeeted in 4 hours so i just wanna make any necessary edits beforehand
void kelp
I believe the only limitation is sprites + something to request on the art server
nothing else
dapper coral
thats true, it would certainly be a lot of work sprite-wise
hollow shell
I think it's fine. Nobody had anything to say other than agreement
Now, what about BryFtw's suggestion?
... It almost seems too obvious
Like, yeah of course we should do that
civic pond
seems like an oversight if anything(?)
i dont see any problems
void kelp
According to whomever programmed it, programming it to even work somewhat was hell
I’ll approve it but not sure if it’s plausible
proud tree
Whoever suggested boss summon roars is the GOAT
unreal viper
Buff the tarragon and bloodflare armor summoner helmet variants.
The tarragon and bloodflare armors are weaker in terms of their minion stats than stardust, and only give slightly better minion damage boosts to compensate. Stardust gives 5 minions and 66% increased minion damage, vs 4 minions and 71% increased minion damage for tarragon and 3 minions with 77% minion damage for bloodflare. Since these armors are after stardust in progression, and since stardust isn't a glass cannon armor, I find it odd that stardust is better than them in its damage stats. Due to this, the tarragon and bloodflare summoner sets should be buffed so that they are a straight upgrade to the players summoner abilities.
Does this look good?
@void kelp Does this look good?
void kelp
mhm
unreal viper
Thanks.
void kelp
anyone got any oppositions or feedback on recent suggestions?
hollow shell
Do the helmet's minions not compensate sufficiently for that loss
iirc people've said the Polter mines aren't great
but what about Tarragon's killaura?
unreal viper
I guess I should check that out.
distant gyro
it's a trend for all calamity summon armors ngl
- less minion slots
- more minion damage
- summons <xyz> to damage your foes
unreal viper
Is the tarragon aura visible?
distant gyro
no
unreal viper
Guess I'll test the aura size tomorrow w cheatsheet then.
hollow shell
(ideally it should be but iunno if that's ever been sugg'd)
unreal viper
The 200 damage per frame looks insanely powerful. If the aura has good range, I'll change my sugg to focus on bloodflare.
hollow shell
(damn, 12000 DPS?)
dapper coral
that seems... a little high
hollow shell
I assume it's pretty close-range
dapper coral
yeah, because if its not then that is some serious damage potential
dapper coral
well, yes, but actually no
molten dune
void kelp
main thing is that it should be requested to the article server iirc
dapper coral
how do
hollow shell
Just go in the pixel art channel and ask
hollow shell
aighty, gl
dapper coral
i asked in the pixel art channel and they said that you cant request stuff
unless i'm in the wrong server, which is entirely possible
hollow shell
Wait really?
Calamity Art server, with the rainbow (mostly blue) thumbnail?
dapper coral
this one
hollow shell
hm
We may have been erroneously redirecting people
I mean, it's not like we ever notified the art server people that we have this policy of being unable to suggest resprites
dapper coral
ah
hollow shell
We just kinda told people to go there and hoped for the best cuz it seemed logical, I guess
dapper coral
lol, fair enough
well maybe this is a good opportunity for me to get into spriting as well
although idk how long thats gonna take to learn
hollow shell
Usually takes a while
Especially if you wanna get really good at it, and have your submitted sprites be regularly accepted
dapper coral
thats what i thought, yeah
maybe ill wait till school's out before i start
so i actually have time to do it
hollow shell
aighty
digital saddle
I think totality breaker needs a big rework
hollow shell
It's getting explosion sprites soon, don't worry
(and as a result, lingering hitboxes)
digital saddle
I just think that being a Molotov cocktail when there are so many really cool and unique components to it is disappointing
hollow shell
ye, which is why it's gettin explosions
cuz 2 of its 4 ingredients have explosions
digital saddle
I also think supernova could be improved
The heavy arc aside, it's not particularly unique compared to other auric weapons
hollow shell
also getting an explosion
digital saddle
Its awkward to use vs scal also
lyric eagle
Has the concern yet been raised that it's much more difficult to get fetid essence/corrupt flask/ambrosial ampoule/ on corruption worlds than it is on crimson worlds, especially on Deathmode (due to multi-hp-bar worms). Between the devourer/world feeder seeming to spawn rarer than face monsters and herplings and the Deathmode-specific case of the corruption essence enemies being essentially mini-bosses unless you have a worm-destroying weapon, it makes it quite a bit harder to get than the bloodletting essence.
radiant meadow
@dapper coral abyssal/lumenous amulets and iron boots just got player equip sprites very recently
dapper coral
btw @hollow shell , a guy DMed me from the art server and said he could try to make equip sprites for those items, just so you know (sorry for the ping, just wanted to know if there's anything else i need to do in the way of requesting sprites)
hollow shell
There isn't really an official process
Cool that someone's willing to do em
(here's hoping they're not also a beginning spriter)
foggy plover
isnt that literally a vanilla feature roastedtoast?
hollow shell
It doesn't always work 100% but yes that feature does exist
@open inlet Right click on the enemy with any summon weapon.
swift wadi
Also Rover, try to redirect people to ask for sprites specifically in the "Media" chat of Art Server
Psure a convo happened and the pixel art chat isn't for that
might wanna specify
hollow shell
A lil odd but alright, I can edit the Don'ts doc
swift wadi
you can ask mrrp if that's right too, they had the convo, I just overviewed it
dapper coral
mhm, sounds like that was the final consensus on asking for sprites/resprites
hollow shell
aight
dapper coral
any disagreements with this list of potential equip sprites? sorry if this is the wrong channel, i'm not really sure where to put this stuff since it technically is involved with a sugg but also not really
now that i'm looking at it, this is a hell of a lot of potential sprites
sand umbra
if I received one dollar for every time I've seen people asking to make vanilla changes into a config
I would be a rich man
dapper coral
is it a dont?
hollow shell
It isn't, but it's always been a bit of a controversial one
sand umbra
yeah it's not strictly a don't, but it has historically been a heavy topic of contention amongst the Cal community for a variety of reasons
swift wadi
Shouldn't it be sent to the dev team or smth for a finalized decision
floral carbon
I'm new to Terraria modding, what's the problem with adding more choices for how to play the game? I understand the Don't of configs for death mode as that defeats the purpose of the mode, but...
queen delta
Thoughts?
swift wadi
I'd be down
crude geode
Sounds good
swift wadi
I'll send it in like 4 minutes it's not instantly sent
hollow shell
This is indeed an issue I have seen
It'd be good to be able to ping all available staff instead of having to ping one, wait, ping another, wait
until one replies
btw Adir's and Mann's suggs are gonna get yeeted in like 30 minutes
What were the issues with em?
swift wadi
I don't see why either would be an issue, but from an objective standpoint I think they're fine suggs
hollow shell
Pinkie pinged Adir earlier with this:
https://discordapp.com/channels/225030931008847874/465195069406707722/708218943634014218
Mann was never pinged tho
swift wadi
Yes those are flaws with the core concept of the sugg, but we're supposed to send ones that are at least sendable no?
He heard the information and didn't feel that it was enough to make him remove his sugg, that's fine
hollow shell
yeah I spose it can just get rejected to hell by the devs, or go unstarred
I was thinking that the devs can just like
try to make it match better rather than exactly
like iirc we did with Leviathan one time
swift wadi
Yea. Reason you wouldn't star something =/= reason it shouldn't be sent
hollow shell
Alright then
subtle oracle
Or maybe it doesn't appeal to you
hollow shell
Also, a lotta people chimed in for Bee's sugg but it was never edited
I dunno if there was any prudent feedback
subtle oracle
or you don't think its necessary
swift wadi
If a sugg should be sent is normally objective
My subjective opinions on it do not matter unless they break a rule I enforce
crude geode
iirc pinkie mentioned that the Proper Providence Hitbox suggestion would be a lot of work, and could possibly ruin the viability of other weapons against Providence in the process of making one weapon easier to use against her, that isn't even unviable currently.
swift wadi
that's a reason for Devs to not accept it, not a reason to not be passed
Is there anything wrong with Celest's suggestion? https://discordapp.com/channels/225030931008847874/699359022364491868/708371526650429560
crude geode
Not from what I see
crude geode
Seaweed being able be caught in a sky lake 
swift wadi
Anything wrong with Bee's? https://discordapp.com/channels/225030931008847874/699359022364491868/708376550105677836
swift wadi
Alright, next is Debug's https://discordapp.com/channels/225030931008847874/699359022364491868/708384671721062504
hollow shell
The thing he needed to edit about his sugg was he accidentally merges two tiers in his explanation
They get buffed after a Mech and after Golem
but he only mentions the Mech buff
@ashen warren
swift wadi
While we wait for that response, let's talk about Pige's https://discordapp.com/channels/225030931008847874/699359022364491868/708524630742270013
hollow shell
I'd prefer if he used the wiki image but it seems okay
crude geode
^
ashen warren
Oh, should I go and change that?
hollow shell
Yes
ashen warren
Right I just changed it.
hollow shell
"This is why I think it should be buffed a second time, "
this still needs changing
ashen warren
Done.
hollow shell
aight
I think it looks good now
crude geode
As much as I despise the idea of OOA being required, the suggestion is valid.
swift wadi
onyx river
Well it's already a vanilla feature
crude geode
I still feel like that’s unnecessary with summoning circle tbh
And by summoning circle I mean summoner right click
hollow shell
I think they just don't know the right click feature exists
crude geode
Yeah
hollow shell
@charred perch Why at the end of the Boss Rush?
(I don't think you really need to specify how it's obtained)
crude geode
The boss rush doesn’t really have anything to do with him
onyx river
Yeah doesn't really make sense thematically
charred perch
yeah maybe yharon
crude geode
Believe so ye
onyx river
*Welp here goes another 10 mins of my life"
crude geode
I think just making the drop not specific would be good to fix this.
charred perch
oke
you have been oppeased
I thought of this because my characters supposed to look like yharim
but nothing looks like the helm
onyx river
Yeah i mean not many people roleplay in terraria i think but it will def help them
charred perch
yeah but cool helmet what else can you ask for
hollow idol
ancient auric 
hollow idol
swift wadi
isnt this SIS
swift wadi
Huh
crude geode
YuH really just be out here being the omniscient god of calamity changes/leaks
Also SIS usually need to have a name, sprite, and such and such to be classified as such. An idea like “Dyes based on Boss Screen Overlays/Shaders” is fine, since it’s not specific enough and doesn’t provide examples.
hollow idol
smh im not omniscient, im still trying to find the exact version the celestial claymore was added and its giving me a headache
onyx river
You're doing an history section in the wiki or you're just looking for the fun?
hollow idol
fun
swift wadi
A general consensus wasn't made on Zeon's https://discordapp.com/channels/225030931008847874/699359022364491868/708557730411184129
Good?
onyx river
It's kinda
hollow shell
I have big doubts it'll get approved by the devs
but I guess it's valid?
dapper coral
Seems fine, just more sprite work tho
gray nebula
I thought that making a config to revert vanilla changes was in the dont's
crude geode
It’s definitely a weird situation.
hollow shell
If this sugg eats shit then I'll consider adding it to the Don'ts
considering iirc it usually doesn't go over well whenever it comes up
hollow shell
Alright now question
Is this one a bluecheck of this
https://discordapp.com/channels/225030931008847874/263382359397761025/704300462719107072
wooden wedge
most likely
dapper coral
Assuming this Yharim vanity would be a different version of auric Tesla, then yes
gray nebula
kinda, the only distinctive yharim set piece there is is the mask
auric armor works for the rest of the body - the cape
hollow shell
(btw yes indeed)
@burnt spade You still gotta edit your sugg, it's very weak and arguable/incorrect at the moment
swift wadi
I blue checked it, is that all I gotta do?
hollow shell
Yeah
dapper coral
Also can I quickly get your feedback on this? I didn’t get a response when I put it in chat https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/465195069406707722/708557422083702804/Screen_Shot_2020-05-08_at_10.53.09_PM.png
Is this fine for the list of equip sprites?
Ik it’s quite a lot
swift wadi
can I make a list of suggs over 120 stars and ping a dev or smth?
hollow shell
You could categorize a bit
dapper coral
That would also be important dunno how tf I didn’t think of that for an equip sprite list
dapper coral
Okay awesome, thanks for the idea
I’ll send that to the guy tomorrow and then we’ll see what happens
hollow shell
aight
crude geode
Had a weird idea, and would need to draft it, but I was thinking about how it’s very difficult to learn boss patterns if you don’t actively look at the wiki and the boss tips pages. What if the guide (or some other npc) gave tips for bosses? Such as warning about the bullet hell phase of Provi, the dash phase of Yharon, etc.
hollow shell
Perhaps
floral carbon
Isn't that just part of learning a new boss? Like Plantera going rage mode for the first time or finding out Moonlord gives the middle finger to normal health regen stuff
trim raptor
I feel like there’s a point at which something should be learned vs communicated. For example, you can learn the hard way about Provi’s bullet hell and negative healing gimmicks. On the contrary, it may be hard to figure out that the cause of the random Debuff causing deaths in the fight is getting too far away from her
I actually think a fix to that would be a particle ring showing the radius that you have to stay in around her (like the abomination in Fargo’s souls), but that’s not the point of the suggestion
crude geode
didn’t you make a sugg about that
Certain things can be hard for the player to learn, and I don’t think a player should be forced out of the game for knowledge about a boss. It’s a common thing for most games nowadays, but I feel like we have a npc that can help players already in the game, so why not utilize him?
hollow idol
nom
trim raptor
I put that suggestion in here, but got no feedback so didn’t actually post it
crude geode
Ty YuH. I think those provide a good example of how the guide can help provide players with a bit of knowledge about a boss’ key mechanics before they actually fight them.
trim raptor
Never saw any description of those fights before other than that Yharim was just over player sized
The more I think about it, the more I think Draedon as a ML style fight would be dope as hell. (Yes I’ve seen the don’ts, this is 100% not a suggestion)
hollow idol
Draedon just sends his exo mechs to fight you as far as we know
i've heard conflicting things about if he will actually be in the fight at all
trim raptor
I feel like he should be, but I’m not too caught up with the planned features
hollow idol
he's a nerd, nerds dont fight, even if the fight is named after them smh
crude geode
Draedon doesn’t seem like the type of person to actually fight the Terrarian tbh
Also yes what YuH said
hollow idol
but anyways, this is suggestions
crude geode
Yes
I probably won’t suggest anything right, just cuz I can’t form coherent thoughts, but I’ll prolly whip something up later
gray nebula
about that one big list of equipables that need sprites it's really not needed
The spriters can figure out what needs a sprite themselves, theyre just too lazy
hollow idol
dump them in sprites needed then
gray nebula
sprites needed
lol
i dont want to deny 5 submissions per accessory until a dev finally makes one themselves
dapper ferry
Oooh I like the idea of a Yharim vanity
gray nebula
just wait for yharim to get added and use his mask 
hollow idol
or use a texture pack
dapper ferry
I'mmana rip and tear all of Yharim's guts
golden narwhal
Starcore change has been suggested a few times
hollow idol
People: Make more unique boss spawns!
*Deus has a unique boss spawn
People: Make it so you can ignore unique boss spawns!
golden narwhal
poor unique boss spawns
subtle oracle
Killing atlases is pretty unique, dont you think
More unique than consuming a summoner
hollow idol
hold out a key in the air and a compact magic castle gets mad at you
swift wadi
Brimmy: "You have an idol that means many things to me!"
AS: "You have food that I want to eat!:
Cryo: "K E Y"
subtle oracle
Thrust a Medallion upwards and a resurrected flesh golem by necromancy appears out of thin air
hollow idol
smh can we change cosmic worm tbh, the only reason its like it is is because it was invented when DoG was a destroyer clone
hollow idol
its made of dark stuff, more dark stuff, and some metal
white patrol
atlas:get killed after cultist
astrum deus: you may have slain many of them before for farming stardust, you may have slaugthered many other enemies from this biome other than atlases, but now i am angry for those 3 you killed now
hollow idol
also for the love of god please flip the sprite
hollow idol
piggy is only flipped like it is for vanilla consistency
subtle oracle
But I can see it. I sort off agree with this yuh
toxic kettle
Because apparently NPCs always face left and items always face right
outer crane
Wait
dapper ferry
Killing 50 Piggies should spawn a really angry piggy
hollow idol
~~smh whatb about this https://discordapp.com/channels/225030931008847874/263382359397761025/590763387760148490~~
crude geode
Oh god that suggestion was in the dark days of SIS
hollow idol
smh why did this sug get approved but not all the hive pet sugs
crude geode
smh
subtle oracle
God
gusty grail
Roasted toast you do know that summoners have a rightclick
runic kite
quite of a few calamity summon weapons don’t have right-click functionality though oddly
sinful steeple
Have you ever right clicked with a summon weapon
sinful steeple
Then why did they ask to add something so that summons can be ordered to target something
Because if they have ever right clicked with a summon weapon they would know that's already in the game
tepid root
quite of a few calamity summon weapons don’t have right-click functionality though oddly
sounds like a bug/oversight
sand umbra
some summons just ignore targeting entirely
and some weapons don't have the ability to target in the first place because their right-click does something else
e.g. Igneous Exaltation's right-click does not target, but rather launches all blades orbiting you
unreal cypress
Siren is annoying. I spam her with right click and my summons completely ignore her
tepid root
i mean what would igneous exaltation targetting even do lol
swift wadi
wasn't that fixed ages ago
raven meadow
Still here in the current version
onyx river
Yeah and defiled rune
hallow kraken
I got like 2 in ten minutes
onyx river
Not unlkely, with spawn rate boost ellyfish spawn like crazy
radiant meadow
piggy faces right in source, I just cropped it when making the item
The NPC is flipped from source for wiki purposes @hollow idol
terse sundial
@sage granite specific item suggestions (SIS) aren't allowed currently
sage granite
Oh, My apologies
manic vessel
A better way to rephrase your suggestion would be to say: There should be a variety of post mech summon weapons dropped by the mechanical bosses
you would have to have adequate reasoning tho
sage granite
Me and wording are like a swimming pool full of people and a live electronical wire about to fall in
terse sundial
nice
manic vessel
The only loophole I see is having a good reason.
Calamity adds a lot of summon weapons but if you have a good reason go ahead.
sage granite
Maybe all 3 can be combined later to make some sort of hybrid using all 3
Or just make them bigger, Summon all 3 at onces for 4 slots
No idea, I like pushing ideas, No idea if they are even useful
raven meadow
That's a great idea that I don't think needs any reasoning. It's just cool
It's not a balance or recipe change, not everything needs reasoning
civic pond
is this implying worm summon
raven meadow
Have you ever created anything large? Most things (in games at least) get added without much reasoning
Because they just seem right/cool
raven meadow
Can't deny that
But calamity devs will miss out on a couple of really cool suggestions
Not like I have a better way of doing this
dry latch
thing is, cool is subjective. that's why they ask for a valid reason. to make it objective
analog radish
I don’t know if other players feel the same way, but I think Polterghast is way too easy. I was thinking maybe Polterghast dashing towards the player more often would be a good change. Again, I don’t know how other people feel about the boss so idk if that would be a good change.
sage granite
My only reasoning why is the Twins get a minion summon item, It makes sense you could say reprogram the other 2 mechs to work for you as a minion
raven meadow
That's why we have voting. It's still subjective, but the devs see if the majority think this way.
sage granite
You can control Calamitas and her brother's, A robot wouldn't be a stretch
frail mantle
"it makes sense" isn't really good reasoning for an item suggestion
dry latch
- but the majority isn't always right
- devs aren't obligated to push through the suggestions, so subjectivity will be on their side
sage granite
Maybe I should stop making suggestions 😅 I've made a few and all ended badly 🤣
raven meadow
Nobody is obligated to do anything here, that's not what I'm saying. But suggestions already operate on the idea of majority voting, so this wouldn't be much of a change. Besides, if you really look at it, everything is subjective, some may find the reasoning given enough, some don't.
Again, I get the problem, and I'm not proposing that we should remove the current rules.
kindred nexus
junior wasp
I just sort of thought that that could be how you craft drew's wings, y'know, instead of them dropping from yharon, which feels a bit forced in my opinion
sage granite
I can see your point
proud tree
Do you guys think polterghast is too easy, too hard, or just fine
karmic stone
I think it's ok with any class that isn't Melee
proud tree
Yeah
The general consensus is basically that
What if the fight had harder to dodge bullets?
Because as melee and even true melee you can camp the entire fight without having to worry about anything and demolish him with adrenaline
sage granite
Polterghast is a lil easy, It stays at a distance like Plantera, shoots at you like Plantera, Only difference is you get the circling claws around you that fire orbs that if focused on are simple to avoid......So my answer is yes
proud tree
I think necroplasm should rush at you more and necroghast should have.. I dunno, exploding bullets?
sage granite
Homing maybe but not exploding, Doesn't sound right for a boss like that given its origin
proud tree
Good point
sage granite
Maybe it fires plasm at you that if you dodge will go into a portal looking thing then spawn behind you and charge, If that misses it'll become something extra you need to kill
proud tree
But either way it should punish you way more for getting close to it
Oh yeah
That's actually a great idea you had
But yeah, as it stands polterghast is completely free for melee because of the lack of punishment from getting close to it
And its too easy for all classes in general
sage granite
Especially given its a post-ML boss
proud tree
Yeah
Lol someone posted earlier today that they "kinda accidentally killed polterghast" as their first post ML boss
So that goes to show
tepid root
indigo fog
@exotic canyon Specific item suggestions aren't allowed
gray nebula
what's with mech summon sis today
indigo fog
make sure you read the suggestion don'ts document in the pins before making a suggestion
exotic canyon
ahh ok
digital saddle
i suggested a destroyer mechworm way back when
i think it would be hard to design a prime summon
digital saddle
omniscience doesnt help that much
void kelp
hold on, forgot if I asked already but is the rogue station a blue check?
also! @dapper ferry https://discordapp.com/channels/225030931008847874/369115362186231809/708747328848134212 🏁
dapper ferry
AYYY I MADE A DIFFERENCE!
dapper coral
congrats lol, your change will be immortalized in calamity history
void kelp
first checkered flag reaction c: