what does that do post ml
#suggestions-discussion
molten dune
quick ice
Desert has Great Sand Sharks for Hardmode
molten dune
true
hollow shell
postPlant, even
quick ice
not every biome gets Post-ML stuff, but almost every other biome gets 2-3 content-boosters at different points in the game
molten dune
mh
buoyant dock
true but that leaves the sunken sea with little to no use post ml unless you need an item from there to craft into stronger items
ancient crow
hallowed desert is also good for fighting provi
rugged belfry
what about the ocean. what does it get (other than increased ??? spawn rate)
quick ice
SS doesn't need Post-ML stuff, it just needs a 2nd content expansion after Early-Hardmode to be on parr with the other biomes
winged fiber
Shark Fins are used in a very high variety of crafting recipes
quick ice
Astral barely has anything Post-ML and it's still fine
molten dune
make it have more stuf post dukie fishrawn
winged fiber
To be fair Astral becomes useful right before moon lord
molten dune
like you're gonna skip the celestial pillars and go for deus
and then do the pillars
terse sundial
dekarus' suggestion is fine now for the most part
hollow shell
astral has initial Hardmode, post-Aureus, and pre-Deus
terse sundial
more content for sunken sea is always a good thing in my book
buoyant dock
astral can still be counted somewhat vital post ml as you can grind deus for fragments.
hollow shell
and yeah I suppose this sugg is acceptable now
terse sundial
indeed
molten dune
sunken sea is a very useless biome overall
all you need it for is amidias and that's really it
hollow shell
Nice nice
void kelp
it is, however, really pretty
molten dune
and amidias isnt even that good
like, the breath bubbles could be good for the abyss
buoyant dock
it also provides rogue players with the shards needed for prismalline
which eventually becomes shuttered sun
maybe have some sunken boats or something like that?
void kelp
wouldn’t fit, maybe ruins
hollow shell
s'got a lotta fish I spose
molten dune
imagine how dificult that'd be to generate
void kelp
since it would be the remains of amidias’ kingdom
molten dune
how many times it'd collide with the terrain
oh, SS is the kingdom ruiins?
I thought the regular oceans contained his kingdom
digital saddle
Shattered sun is kinda mediovre
digital saddle
Amidias weapons are really good for the point in progression you can get them also
civic pond
definitely.
buoyant dock
you could make it the remains of amidia' kingdom yeah, have some ruined houses, or maybe something that resembles a ruined palace
void kelp
lore-wise, the eutrophic sea is what remains of the great ocean that held amidias’ kingdom
molten dune
is it sunken or eutrophic
void kelp
sunken sea is the eutrophic sea, I just call it eutrophic to minimize confusion with the sulphur sea
quick ice
oh, that's pretty smart Spider
void kelp
oh yeah, since fishron has a relationship w amidias
buoyant dock
but it isnt really eutrophic? it doesnt have that dense of a plantlife, nor does it kill animals in it due to lack of oxygen.
molten dune
the pigron teeth could make, like
hollow shell
hm
molten dune
fishbone weapons
quick ice
new Challenge item for the Sentinels would be cool
fair copper
yea
quick ice
reasoning and format are good too
hollow shell
They were not intended to be fought together at all, so it would be unfair and chaotic
civic pond
This sug looks familiar
fair copper
:c
void kelp
bc of minerals but not necessarily ones that are conducive to plant growth
fair copper
was it suggested before?
void kelp
I mean, mech bosses weren’t designed to be fought in tandem either
fair copper
^
civic pond
They all have the same spawn conditions tho iirc
molten dune
maybe do an item to fight all the elementals together 👀
civic pond
same area
molten dune
no
buoyant dock
yes, but they aren't as chaotic as the sentinels
fair copper
oh, oops
civic pond
idk I remember seeing it more than once
void kelp
never really made it off the ground
hollow shell
nah nah you're good
fair copper
Wouldn't it make sense for the fight to be more chaotic, considering how late it is in the game?
civic pond
Not necessarily
hollow shell
yeah but I mean like it'd be insane
but, sure, yeah
void kelp
I’d say it’s an interesting challenge just like the mech mayhem one, just as unfair
molten dune
I want to try it
void kelp
probably more unfair considering how different the fights are from each other
civic pond
wouldn't they all be enraged too
earnest harness
you could just do what they do with the boss rush and make them unenraged
civic pond
only to be suck'd by CV.
molten dune
i mean
the problem is that you can pretty much decimate weeevy and signus post scal
so unless you do it earlier in progression you might just stomp em
ceaseless void just takes longer cause of it's inv time
buoyant dock
also problem is two of them can only be damaged in certain cases
fair copper
Yeah, I don't know at what point in the game the challenge becomes fair though
civic pond
Depending on where you fight it in progression you either have a really hard time, or they get deleted.
buoyant dock
weaver needs to be hit in the tail to break his armor
fair copper
like, post yharon phase one seems like a reasonable spot
buoyant dock
and void cant be damaged at all when his orbs are around
molten dune
You need to hit his tail?
civic pond
Ye
buoyant dock
to break his armor, yes
fair copper
i never knew that :v
molten dune
bro i just fired randomly and won
fair copper
same
hollow shell
Phase 1
zealous ridge
(hey should i post a sugg or should i wait on the bruhsentinel suggestion to be confirmed or denied)
civic pond
hm?
buoyant dock
weaver phase one is hitting his tail to break his armor
molten dune
well that could've been made more clear, first of all
hollow shell
I spose its pretty easy to just spray and pray
void kelp
I reckon you can go ahead @zealous ridge
molten dune
in expert i just nae nae him without even knowing about that
hollow shell
Yeah you can
zealous ridge
alright let us see
hollow shell
I think the sentinel suggestion is alright, if perhaps a bit weak in the reasoning
buoyant dock
compared to that, the three mechs can be damaged through the entire fight, even if they have large damage reductions
civic pond
So possibly add a point in progression to the sug?
sentinels
imo sunken sea always felt like a prehardmode biome to me
fair copper
After a darksun eclipse seems like a good place for all 3 sentinels
fair copper
You'd have moved forward past DoG, but only halfway into the Yharon section of the game, so you aren't totally busted yet
hollow shell
m
civic pond
still at that point im pretty sure they'd get deleted instantly
hollow shell
I spose you could add something like that to your sugg
recommending that the all-three encounter get placed later
fair copper
aw ok
hollow shell
and just call the item "Cosmic Resurrection" or something and that's all the explanation you need
zealous ridge
cosmic contract
civic pond
I'm gonna look into chozos sug for a bit
fair copper
isn't the fight getting reworked once the resprite comes out?
hollow shell
Just you have it cuz you have CD, I think
terse sundial
I thought it was dev+
buoyant dock
there isnt for me.
terse sundial
apparently it's cd+
void kelp
mrrp perms 😳
hollow shell
(might be Editor)
civic pond
lole
terse sundial
editor shouldn't have perms there
void kelp
perms should probably be fixed ?
subtle oracle
New posting channel
distant gyro
it doesn't matter anyway i don't use sugma
civic pond
why would they type there doe
distant gyro
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subtle oracle
wow i was here
ashen warren
bypass posting
terse sundial
just post your suggestions in dev
civic pond
br
terse sundial
frank stratus
why can cd type in there though
void kelp
hey alt whats sugma 
frank stratus
civic pond
void kelp
my guess is that it’s an oversight by mrrp
frank stratus
mrrp you
terse sundial
because perms allow you to
frank stratus
you sock
civic pond
dont be mean.
terse sundial
doesn't need to be fixed unless you abuse it
void kelp
fields abusing his cool dude status? 😳
hollow shell
Aight so do we think the Sentinel suggestion needs to be edited?
buoyant dock
@zealous ridge i personally don't see just mining out a large area and putting a bunch of platforms too intense of a terrain prep, its basically the same terrain perp as for plantera, but in a broader scale
civic pond
I dont see any issues with it imo
ashen warren
"their odd additions to the fight" They're*? @zealous ridge
terse sundial
personally I don't see the point on it
hollow shell
sorry I was cooking
terse sundial
like it's fine for the extra challenge, but I really don't get why it would be useful
ashen warren
why is everyone cooking
civic pond
zealous ridge
the rock is cooking
quick ice
the point in the Sentinel-Sugg is like the Draedons Remote thing; for a Challenge
civic pond
Its not useful
buoyant dock
secondly, i agree that the infernados that yharon spawn are a bit unpredictable, but the whole "its unforgiving for new players"
ashen warren
it's like the triple mechs ach
civic pond
Honestly i'm not a fan of the tornado borders
buoyant dock
its a final boss. if a final boss was easy to learn then what the point of it being a final boss?
fair copper
should I edit the suggestion itself or make another one?
zealous ridge
im not saying make it easy to learn
ashen warren
if calamity had achievements, triple sentinels would be something I'd think of
hollow shell
Edit the sugg if you have things you wanna change about it
zealous ridge
im saying make it easier to read
like, its hard to know what the tornadoes even do
they blend into the background
zealous ridge
and they spawn tornadoes on a delay
civic pond
Idk about a tradeoff for non instakill tornadoes in turn for yharon having more attacks
fair copper
sh!t, how do I add lines while in edit mode
hollow shell
hold shift, press enter
ashen warren
shift + enter
buoyant dock
the delay isnt that great, and its not so hard to learn atleast in my opinion
fair copper
thank you
hollow shell
np
zealous ridge
i feel like it would help the fight to give him more mobility options, doge
they dont even have to be that lethal
idk, have him do a dragonfolley and follow you to your side
buoyant dock
the thing is, while the infernados arnt very easy to read, theres way to avoid them.
molten dune
so i managed to get storm weaver and void in at the same time
i had trouble only because i couldnt find signus in time
quick ice
Invo just use Cheatsheet
molten dune
I did
zealous ridge
but for someone who doesn't know how they work, its hard to tell what they're even doing
molten dune
I couldnt find signus on the list
sand umbra
mfw this is the single most comprehensive analysis of Yharon's jankiness I've ever seen
quick ice
just go in god-mode until they're spawned in
sand umbra
I wholeheartedly support this
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molten dune
Okay that
buoyant dock
i also think that it shouldnt be easy to read.
zealous ridge
hmm
molten dune
cause i suck at gaming
buoyant dock
is it very difficult? yes.
molten dune
signus died 10 seconds in
void kept distracting me while storm weaver kept mashing mme
zealous ridge
i think there are other ways to go about making them difficult to read
hollow shell
@steep island You could elaborate a lil bit more on why that occurs
i.e. they fly off and hit a larva
steep island
zealous ridge
right now, they work more like dukes tornado summoners
molten dune
mmake it so that their projectiles dont damage larvae
hollow shell
Thats coming in 1.4
and uhh I think there's a mod that does that
but I don't know what
void kelp
I feel like it’s a jopojelly mod
civic pond
by the time you have seething discharge shouldn't QB just die fast anyways
hollow shell
(I apparently had it in my recent pt and I have no idea which one did it)
civic pond
possibly
ashen warren
fargo maybe
hollow shell
Wasn't Fargo, didn't have it
zealous ridge
except instead of standing out like duke's bubbles that home in on you, they just show up and go at mach 10 and are really hard to keep track of
hollow shell
Thanks Zach 👍
zealous ridge
the difference between dukes bubbles and yharon's tornadoes is that one is more readable
you're given the information
buoyant dock
the infernados has multiple ways to be dispatched off.
zealous ridge
yeah, im not saying remove those ways to dispatch of them
ashen warren
honestly
buoyant dock
youre saying they need to be made more readable, but thing is
ashen warren
yharon is a fight better suited to a 3d third person view
instead of a 2d third person
molten dune
lets just make terraria 3d, hold on
ashen warren
more like a hack n slash game and not terraria
molten dune
then yharon will be good
ashen warren
since then you can see him from far away
high velocity on all his attacks makes him bullshit even on huge displays
buoyant dock
chozo the thing is you say that fishron's bubbles are more predictable
and they are dont get me wrong
but fishron is also a pre-moonlord boss.
zealous ridge
ah, you misunderstand
they are about the same predictability wise
but im saying you cant see the damn tornado before it hits you
radiant meadow
seething discharge hellblasts last 4.25 seconds
the brimstone darts last 10 seconds
zealous ridge
they do the same thing, just one is going waaay faster and is blending in with the bg
fair copper
edited the sentinel suggestion
mighty knot
QQ, does the introduction of the two different channels mean I don't have to post my suggs. here first for review? Am I expected to just post them there now?
terse sundial
post them in _posting
hollow shell
hmmmm you could change the wording a little but Sporium
radiant meadow
either works
terse sundial
preferably
radiant meadow
how do blue checks work btw?
buoyant dock
thats because you dont know how to manipulate the attacks. you could argue that instade of growing from the ground upwards they can turn visable as a warning
hollow shell
As it is, it's kinda specific
terse sundial
they don't
radiant meadow
do you just approve and then blue check?
zealous ridge
mhm, cosmic
molten dune
blue check means it's already been suggested recently
hollow shell
Bluechecks occur in #suggestions-voting
radiant meadow
I know what blue check means
hollow shell
You do indeed approve then bluecheck
fair copper
too specific?
zealous ridge
i agree, but i be saying that its better design to at least be shown what the tornado does. im not saying you need to be shown how to deal with the tornadoes
i mention in the doc that leading them to the side is the best thing to do
hollow shell
Yeah
Especially this line: "This challenge would be available after beating Phase 1 Yharon, either by making it craftable with Darksun fragments or making it drop from Armored Digger."
zealous ridge
i believe
fair copper
oops
hollow shell
You could change it to be like "should probably be around beating Phase 1 Yharon"
or something like that
ashen warren
if any of the colours are off (you'll know em when you see em) feel free to yell at me (preferably with a ping because it's 3 am and my brain is ded)
hollow shell
Make it less definite, less like that's precisely what you want
ashen warren
i think part of the issue is that as I recall, vanilla players aren't a fan of fishron by default, and yharon is fishron evolved
radiant meadow
what is accreation emblem??
ashen warren
I don't generally hear good things about duke
zealous ridge
i want it to be readable, as in, you can properly see the projectile that spawns the tornados and that the tornado be telegraphed better
buoyant dock
its an orange orb that chases you and hits you without hurting you
zealous ridge
its a tornado and it hits you yes
ashen warren
the orange projectile fired from the dragon you're encouraged to stay away from over an orange filter while you're likely using the overlay map mode
worthy grove
@worthy grove Accretion Emblem?
@hollow shell yeah sorry it is from a different mod completely forgot about that
toxic kettle
The tornado that chases you is clearly visible wdym
lost agate
Oh new sugg chat
ashen warren
yeah you can see that totally
hollow shell
Yeah, best to delete the sugg then
because it doesn't apply to Calamity.
fair copper
edited my sugg again :|
buoyant dock
hello shucks
hollow shell
just mods interacting poorly with each other
worthy grove
nevermind then i'll just remove the emblem didn't even really notice it until now propably why it is so broken ^^
lost agate
Hello
hollow shell
yeye
lost agate
This sugg method looks fancy
zealous ridge
i think its good to be in voting
radiant meadow
is it blue check?
zealous ridge
i think
hollow shell
Not blue check, last time it was sugg'd was before November
buoyant dock
as for "As for the regular tornadoes, they also have a big flaw: readability. The projectiles that spawn the flare and infernadoes are not telegraphed very well at all. " the projectiles that summons the infernados chases you. its not very hard to miss it.
crude geode
The fact that 90% of Yharon's projectiles are colored orange, or yellow, when there's two different similarly colored overlays is a pain for eyes. One of them is forced (the natural coloring), and one you want to use due to the fact that you can't see Yharon easily without it (the map overlay).
zealous ridge
it chases you but it go super fast and is orange just like the background
ashen warren
now would be a good time to talk about visual noise
which is what yharon uses to his advantage
buoyant dock
you can say make it easier to see
ashen warren
too much information can make things harder to see
zealous ridge
i didn't say anything about changing it
sinful violet
how do i validate suggestions again
toxic kettle
Idk what kinda light setting you're on but I can see the tornadoes chasing me without problems
buoyant dock
because it is telegraphed alright, just harder to see if you dont pay attention
hollow shell
green check
ashen warren
✅
hollow shell
that
sinful violet
☑️ got it
terse sundial
yes mrrp
buoyant dock
you said its telegraphed bad.
zealous ridge
terse sundial
you got it
zealous ridge
yes i did, and i think it is
terse sundial
have fun validating all of those suggestions now 👋
buoyant dock
so a thing that chases you is a bad telegraphed attak?
toxic kettle
It isn't tho
hollow shell
It's telegraphed poorly because it blends in with the BG and there's not much indication as to its function
zealous ridge
yeah, rov
buoyant dock
thats more direct of an explanation
hollow shell
It homes in on you, but when you get hit by it, it summons the tornado wherever ground level is below you (which can be quite a distance)
and there is no sound effect or down-pointing visual cue to indicate that
toxic kettle
I mean it has the shape of a tornado, what could that possibly mean
lost agate
(Should mrrp's pin from sugg voting be ported to sugg posting?)
hollow shell
Maybe but nah
lost agate
Aight
zealous ridge
oh shid mrrp's gonna smite
hollow shell
I want only one permanent message in the channel
lost agate
Okeh
lost agate
Yeye, i was just asking
buoyant dock
slightly yes.
zealous ridge
alright
anything else you have to say about the doc? is the rest of it looking good and agreeable?
buoyant dock
you draw on the explanation rather lengthy which might make it harder to read.
zealous ridge
ye im just wordy sometimes lmao
buoyant dock
so theres that to crunch down to more simple points
while a long suggestion make it look more constructed and more thought out
making it TOO long can confuse some people and make people lose some of the reasons
zealous ridge
mhm
zealous ridge
i may need to say tho
ashen warren
This doc is the single most comprehensive yharon argument to date
neat wave
They should nerf the mana overloader's healing ability....
hollow shell
Perhaps maybe
ashen warren
It's actually surprisingly concise for such a complex boss
hollow shell
Doesn't it only occur at a weirdly low mana percentage tho?
void kelp
yeah it’s pretty neat
buoyant dock
squeak it has a lot of points to be discussed on yes
lost agate
Yeah but its not hard to stay at low mana with mana regen potion
terse sundial
it's also affected by the cooldown
buoyant dock
but when i want to see if i agree with some suggestion
terse sundial
so it's not like it's infinite
buoyant dock
reading a two page document usually makes me want to skip to the next one
hollow shell
(well the cooldown is pretty temporary)
radiant meadow
it just turns on the spectre heal bool
zealous ridge
the doc is meant to be more for the devs than anything
lost agate
Also, lowkey, mana overloader sounds like a thing that would let you throw away all your mana instantly but eh
zealous ridge
really, you don't need to read it if you agree yharon should be changed in some way
terse sundial
need to wait a week to repost suggestions
zealous ridge
and if you don't agree, that's fine too
neat wave
Easy self healing just dont use mana flower and use mana regen potion,you can easily keep your mana low with huge self healing..
zealous ridge
if you want to hear my side, you can read the doc for my reasons, and if you don't agree, then you're allowed to not vote on it
hollow shell
Sounds fair enough
You could make a sugg about that, with that as your reasoning
lost agate
(what i mean is that overloader acts more like a mana polarizer than an overloader)
buoyant dock
like i said, i personally like yharons fight, so i personally disagree with that suggestion, but youre entitled to your own opinion
lost agate
But nitpicks so not a big deal
zealous ridge
fair enough
buoyant dock
but like i said it could use some cruching down to make it easier to read through
zealous ridge
if you think the fight is fine ya dont have to vote
i feel the sugg itself is fine, the doc is more a supplement you don't have to read
at least, i hope that's how it comes off
if it doesn't come off like that, then
well
at the very least, some people will appreciate it
and the devs will hopefully glean helpful info from it
olive token
i thought i had been wiped when i saw the other suggestion channal sry
jaunty isle
the thing about mana overloader is that you can just build defensively and you can really brute force some of the fight especially in the earlier Harmode
hearty yew
updated my pin @hollow shell
hollow shell
Thank you
toxic kettle
Tbf Yharon taking long to get to you gives the player some room to breathe, instead of constantly being paranoid of his attacks
zealous ridge
ye
pacing of the fight can be maintained
i dont think the pacing is the biggest problem, its the teleport phase which has no chill that's a problem
toxic kettle
And 3 of the 8 subphases include teleports, so that's one way he gets closer to you fast
toxic kettle
The infernadoes not killing you instantly was suggested before and I kinda agree
toxic kettle
You could be doing well in the battle and you accidentally touch the hitbox and the fight is immediately over
hearty yew
man
ashen warren
why not rework it to something interesting
toxic kettle
Not even revives work against the instakill mechanic
ashen warren
double mana cost, acts like a manaflower with infinite mana potions with no mana sickness, restores mana from hitpoints
that kind of thing
zealous ridge
anyways does my sugg look good for voting?
lost agate
The tornados could simply throw you into the arena again if you touch em, with some lil dmg in there for the sake of logic
zealous ridge
asking the devs, mostly
lost agate
Some emode boss do it so its very much doable
ashen warren
like the eidolon push
lost agate
Or that ye
hollow shell
This sugg seems fine
toxic kettle
Except for the distance closing thing I'm fine with it I think
hollow shell
I guess you could elaborate on what you mean by "polarize"?
lost agate
Well
ashen warren
positive when below a certain amount of mana, negative when above, or whatever
lost agate
Having full mana is basically a slow death, and having low mana gives flat out healing
So theyre kinda opposite poles
lost agate
Oke
zealous ridge
hmm
lost agate
Like that?
terse sundial
Yeah
zealous ridge
looks nice, shucks
lost agate
Nice
zealous ridge
rover what u thinkin about the yharon sugg approval
i hope im not prodding AAAAAAAAAAAA
do you think other devs need to see it before it be approve
hollow shell
uhh well this approval is just so the public votes on it
(and then if it reaches 120, the devs will see it)
terse sundial
^
zealous ridge
mmm okay
hollow shell
Do we think it's good?
I think it'd good
terse sundial
It's fine to go in voting
hollow shell
Great
zealous ridge
nice thumbs up
terse sundial
Oh nice it work well with mobile as well
hollow shell
I will now officially recommend that everybody slow the fuck down with suggestions
None of you are getting to 120 at this rate
wooden wedge
what about my planned repost of tomorrow that I told nobody about?
zealous ridge
quick ice
is there any way to increase the width of the boxes that the Suggestions-Bot posts in #suggestions-voting?
rapid pivot
hm
quick ice
it would decrease the clutter by a lot since it seems to be not even half the width of a normal discord message
rapid pivot
i noticed something while I was reading the sugg on Yharon
he mentioned that the border tornadoes were to keep people from just running in one direction, ye?
yet, if that was the problem it was intended to solve, imo it just kinda shifts the problem; rather than becoming an issue of running horizontally, it becomes an issue of going vertically.
zealous ridge
vertically could have a more readable punishment but i think it is less of a problem
because he do the enrage if you go to high
rapid pivot
nah, as in
rapid pivot
like, it's not even a matter of going especially high
if you are moving vertically, his dashes suddenly become ten million times easier to dodge
smoky wagon
how is a player using ingame resources supposed to differentiate between sub phases
rapid pivot
in my experience, you just sorta don't; rather, you die repeatedly until you understand
hollow shell
@ashen warren Can the bot embed boxes be made wider or is that as wide as we can get?
rapid pivot
but ye, chozo; i mention that because, like, the typical arena for yharon is a tall tower of platforms, ye?
ashen warren
They can get wider if a lump a thumbnail in but typically speaking that’s as good as it gets since the formatting doesn’t change with a thumbnail
lost agate
Wait theres embeds?
lost agate
Ah you mean that
granite grail
I feel offended that no one told me Rover is in business
wooden wedge
I'm pretty sure the name is in reference to the new sugg changes
void kelp
rover is the business
quick ice
can confirm, the Suggestion Man and his Channels are in business
buoyant dock
@void kelp that has some lewd undertone i really didnt need right now.
molten dune
;)
void kelp
what??? rover is the business. the suggestion business
crude geode
Get your mind out of the gutter you hooligan.
molten dune
he's my business ;)
buoyant dock
annnd im going to sleep. peace.
safe sail
i am th e business
granite grail
Night
hollow shell
Gnight
Have fun in bed
buoyant dock
WHY
crude geode
Wha
hollow shell
safe sail
lost agate
rover u meme
molten dune
i have such fun in my bed when i go unconscious for 8 hours
swift wadi
Rover IS the senate
void kelp
rover be like:
<><><><><>
crude geode
I can’t tell whether Rover meant that in a inappropriate way or in a murdery way and I’m scared either way.
molten dune
what about both?
buoyant dock
woop nevermind going to bed rn. new version just came out.
wooden wedge
@granite grail not first
hollow shell
Don't do that, Douglas
wooden wedge
check #suggestions-voting
granite grail
Sorry
molten dune
i didnt even get to see it :(
granite grail
Dibs
zenith hazel
and cob was already first technically
wooden wedge
8th
zenith hazel
don't meme in suggestions either, old rules still apply
granite grail
Still got mad dibs
wooden wedge
you don't
void kelp
you were like, 8th
buoyant dock
douglas
zenith hazel
get back on topic
granite grail
Ok
Anyways how much food items does calamity add?
Or consumables (not bosses though
void kelp
If not, blame merk or alt iirc
granite grail
Ya more on those food items
hollow shell
we got Hadal Stew
and Baguette
as "food" food
and proly something else I'm forgetting
"Delicious Meat", that's right
buoyant dock
Permaforst sells a jerky like food item
granite grail
Ya something new wouldn’t hurt
terse sundial
That frozen bacon yeah
granite grail
Like those are already good but
void kelp
but why is my question
buoyant dock
Yeah. Why? Theres already quite enough imo
terse sundial
I completely forgot that existed
granite grail
Thinking
hollow shell
Reason should come first
quick ice
He should also suggest a similar thing with the Ocean Lore and the "???" spawning
golden narwhal
That already exists iirc
quick ice
mb
First suggestion proposal with the new system;
Make Torches for the Calamity furniture sets that have Living Fire Blocks:
All of the Living-Fire block variants from Vanilla have an associated torch for the set they are a part of, and so should the Calamity Living Fire blocks. These torches would allow for more building options for the player just like any furniture item, as well as provide new lighting options for players builds
hollow shell
Sounds aight
quick ice
aight, thanks
hollow shell
Any thoughts?
radiant meadow
I kinda want to never look at living fire blocks again
but sure?
at least torches aren't difficult to code...
I think
we have abyss torch, it can't be that hard
quick ice
let's make Ben code up Plagued Living Fire blocks since there's a Plague Basin
civic pond
get out
hollow shell
Guess it's aight then
quick ice
dw, you did good since afaik no mod has made a Living Fire Block or any tile with as many frames and different variations of being placed as living fire
nocturne plaza
what armor should you wear for a mage pre mech
radiant meadow
Go there
Anyways, I could do a lazy recolor of plague living fire
It'll still be broken but people like vanity and building
hollow shell
Okay there it goes
quick ice
Draconic Elixir just got reworked
wooden wedge
wait I thought draconic elixer already had a change
quick ice
ye it did
radiant meadow
It only heals up to half now and has a longer cooldown now
civic pond
o
wooden wedge
oh well, the sugg already got yeeted
radiant meadow
Unless I fucked up
glossy nebula
Someone should put the calamity sound track on spotify
radiant meadow
No
glossy nebula
because why not?
radiant meadow
Copyright and legal issues
wooden wedge
can't
wooden wedge
just
radiant meadow
That's why
hollow shell
Re-Logic told Dokuro that he couldn't do that.
wooden wedge
upload MP3s yourself
hollow shell
Which is very frustrating
civic pond
still doesn't make sense to me imo but oh well
radiant meadow
Put it in the don'ts at this point
hollow shell
I haven't seen that sugg'd in like months
civic pond
It's still not the first time i've heard it
radiant meadow
I've seen it a few times
civic pond
byeah
radiant meadow
Enough for me to remember it
ashen warren
why would you ever want to play calamity tracks on spotify over something else tho
i almost use other music to cover calamity in game
hollow shell
wow
ashen warren
ok
hollow shell
I personally listen to the OST a lot in my free time
ashen warren
noted sirs thanks
wooden wedge
I don't byeah
quick ice
I just have a youtube playlist of my favorite Calam Songs and a couple other modded songs
I never get any ads so it works fine for me
dapper coral
i love the ost bro
hollow shell
(RotJD and Return to Slime are always hype when they come on)
(Feral Amalgamation too)
glossy nebula
Who needs calamity OST though when you have the mario kart DS ost to listen to am I right?
hollow idol
dapper coral
hollow shell
u rite
wooden wedge
idk man, spoon exists
void kelp
maybe put in information on how to get Spotify to play local files?
quick ice
Sentinels Theme Song, Open Frenzy and Interstellar Stomper are my favs
wooden wedge
I linked it already
void kelp
ye i mean, in the document under the why requesting it is a don’t
dapper coral
open frenzy is awesome, yea
wooden wedge
oh yeah
glossy nebula
@void kelp go to settings and find local files
wooden wedge
that'd work
glossy nebula
just enable it from there
void kelp
I’m not asking how to do it.
I’m asking if it would be a good idea to put it on the document so people who want to do it know how
glossy nebula
Oh
hollow shell
I could
It really isn't sugg'd that often afaik but sure
glossy nebula
I mean, it's just nice to have for people to know
void kelp
it’s often enough that it’ll save the headache of explaining the legal complexity
remote star
"why would you ever want to play calamity tracks on spotify over something else tho"
because there are hundreds of amazing film and game soundtracks?
c418s minecraft alpha soundtrack is one of the highest rated albums of all time on rateyourmusic
glossy nebula
I think that one of my favorite soundtracks is yharon's
remote star
ranked 454 of all albums
wooden wedge
what even is rateyourmusic
remote star
what do you think
wooden wedge
I think it's something that I don't know
remote star
kinda like asking
"what even is pornhub"
well
u can usually read the name of a site
and get a pretty good gist of it..
site for rating music
cataloging, discussing
wooden wedge
dm it to me
glossy nebula
Wow
glossy nebula
you just totally owned him
wooden wedge
that ain't a DM
remote star
dont care
wooden wedge
ok
remote star
youll find everything from 60 year old boomers to 16 year old elitists
this site has been around almost 20 years now
has basically everything u can imagine
and u are free to upload whatever music u want to it
it is the best resource for finding music i dont think ill ever find something better
hollow shell
neat.
glossy nebula
neat.
hearty yew
ok legit question why do I have direct write rights to #suggestions-voting
lost agate
Ooookeh
remote star
why would it be weird for dev to have access to the chanel
lost agate
In case bot breaks idk
remote star
o
hearty yew
there are a lot of things i can't do
dapper coral
did you try turning it off and on
hearty yew
i figured that only the bot and mods/admins could send messages in #suggestions-voting
no in fact I did not
🙃
gusty grail
terse sundial
smh let me sleep
ashen warren
christ this is gonna take a while to get used to
hollow shell
wait do you actually have reaction rights
radiant meadow
Jesus, 10 minute slowdown
hollow shell
... uh oh
wooden wedge
smh let me sleep
you can sleep when you get tired
ashen warren
i guess this is a suggestion ¯_(ツ)_/¯
radiant meadow
It's fine Rover
hollow shell
Yes I see it
radiant meadow
The bot ignores those without message perms
wooden wedge
oh ok
terse sundial
I can kill that
hollow shell
Please do
radiant meadow
Although
terse sundial
Okay give me a sec to get on computer
void kelp
normies have react perms
radiant meadow
I appreciate the interloper
wooden wedge
the bot deleted the reactions earlier today
void kelp
that should probs be fixed
terse sundial
Don't think the channel is synced with gen channel rules
wooden wedge
or was that because I reacted with ⭐ ?
yeah it was
I reacted with the star and it got yeeted
hollow shell
kinda odd
radiant meadow
And then maybe remove managing permissions from mods
void kelp
tbh the message perms should be synced up for consistency ?
radiant meadow
terse sundial
okay only rover, amber, and trial mod+ can add reactions now
radiant meadow
Also, is my suggestion fine or is it all of a sudden a reaction test subject
terse sundial
yeah it's fine
radiant meadow
Okay
hollow shell
Seems fine
wooden wedge
it got 3 interlopers, it's alright
terse sundial
okay before I go back to sleep is there anything else needed?
ashen warren
green fire block
void kelp
we need to make sure you drink enough water and have a good amount of sleep iirc
ashen warren
cursed fire block exists
terse sundial
I only drink water
quick ice
cursed Fire is light Green
subtle oracle
Merk, quit being the super hero mod
radiant meadow
Plague is a different shade
subtle oracle
you're human too
wooden wedge
no he's a bionicle
subtle oracle
quick ice
Plague is more epic Dark Green
radiant meadow
Merk super hero 
ashen warren
what about,.,, calamity paint.,,.,
void kelp
I thought he was wikibot
wooden wedge
no that's thousand
quick ice
Calamity Paint is an addon, doesn't need to be considered by Cala-Main
radiant meadow
Br
ashen warren
wait there's
quick ice
wait I'm thinking Vanities
ashen warren
an addon?
wooden wedge
there's always calamity DLC
ashen warren
I meant adding paint that has calamity themed colours
void kelp
p sure cal paint is a shitpost server
radiant meadow
If I knew how to code paint
lost agate
Can you paint living fire blocks?
ashen warren
you should...?
I don't see why not
it won't change the light made though either way
lost agate
Then plague fire sounds kinda irrelevant
hollow shell
So what you're saying is we gotta add plague paint
ashen warren
so you could dark blue paint a cursed fire block but it would still make lime green light
quick ice
yes
ashen warren
paint is more universal and means I don't need to cheat in a picksaw to build in plague style pre-hm
dapper coral
but like, isnt that applicable to all hardmode furniture items lmao
ashen warren
mmno
most vanilla furniture or decorative blocks are breakable by a copper pick
only things that are actually used ingame for a purpose aren't
so ore, and dungeon/lihzahrd (is that right spelling?) bricks
and raw ebonstone I guess
radiant meadow
I think some calamity building mats have a pick req
dapper coral
but what i mean is that you cant even get the items to craft them until hardmode anyways, same with plague canisters
radiant meadow
Like otherworldly stone
dapper coral
so i mean, you would have to cheat in something to build in hm styles anyways
ashen warren
yeah but they accounted for people just cheating them in early if they want
or specifically, taking blocks from old worlds to build in new ones
dapper coral
okay fair enough i guess
ashen warren
and like
it's just decoration
dunno why I need a picksaw for metal and plague juice
dapper coral
fair
especially since you may not have gotten picksaw from golem boi yet
if you are rather unlucky
ashen warren
doesn't calamity make that a guarantee now? but in any case
radiant meadow
It does
dapper coral
oh wait, does it drop outsdie the treasure bag now
dapper coral
ooooohh, that happened to me and i thought it was a bug cuz that doesnt drop outsdie the bag
i guess it makes more sense to have it not be that tho lol
subtle oracle
Im thinking of a sugg, this is the result of my thought process:
Add Meteorite ore and Meteorite Bars to the Astral Crate item pool
radiant meadow
Perhaps
ashen warren
better crate > sky one
radiant meadow
Astral armor
dapper coral
oh really? interesting
subtle oracle
ill think of a reason
radiant meadow
Thematics and a more reliable source
subtle oracle
Im new to this system, do i just post my Sugg on Posting and then it automatically becomes visibile on voting??
dapper coral
if it gets approved by mods, yes
quick ice
if it's approved by a mod, yes
subtle oracle
as soon as it gets approved, it goes to voting... I get it
ashen warren
it's relatively simple
wooden wedge
read the pins
there's a chart
eh
maybe brainlet could be turned to dumb in the chart
since people got confused
@hollow shell
hollow shell
I'll just add that to the message
(I forgot to save the file for the chart)
wooden wedge
pinged then a tenth of a second later you start typing
ashen warren
👁️
dapper coral
hollow shell
(I did indeed already have the chat open)
mighty knot
mmmmmm
after reading through the document pinned there, it's not necessarily a bug...
hollow shell
ya ain't supposed to be able to drink em while they're on cooldown
if you can
that's an error
ashen warren
it happens when you can bypass the normal method of quickbuffing
usually via alchnpc
mighty knot
I guess I'm trying to suggest a rebuild of it
to make it more compatible with other stuff and less buggy in general
I'll rephrase
hollow shell
I guess but like the issue here is a bug
Is it in Ozza's bug doc yet?
Doesn't seem like it
ashen warren
it's not a calamity solo bug
you cannot drink a potion by bypassing the normal method of drink or quickbuff without a different mod
therefore it's not a calamity bug and shouldn't be reported
ashen warren
'xactly
hollow shell
If it's only bugged with AlchNPC then you ought to suggest the fix there and not here
In Calamity proper it works fine
(apparently)
hollow shell
nah it just got adjusted recently iirc
ashen warren
what was the adjustment made
hollow shell
nerfs
ashen warren
how was it nerfed? i see it still heals to full hp
ashen warren
are you not allowed to tell the public what changes were made
hollow shell
No no the changes are public, in-game
You get revived to half HP now
but the tooltips still say full
ashen warren
o ok
subtle oracle
There should be a complete changelog pinned somewhere right?
hollow shell
It is
subtle oracle
noice
earnest harness
hoooly shit that roxcalibur nerf, well deserved but goddamn
austere vine
noice sulphur sea got an effigy :P
hollow shell
@wintry cedar The hallow bit doesn't really apply because that's guaranteed to penetrate through the entire world
wintry cedar
Your underground Hallow, sure
But my above ground Hallow was literally on a single floating island
That doesn’t help anyone
hollow shell
(here's how it do)
ashen warren
it cannot work that way
void kelp
thats just how it generates naturallu
hollow shell
Floating islands aren't the problem, it's whatever you have on the surface
ashen warren
it literally always spawns a single way
mud can't be converted
that's probably why
hollow shell
Yours probably hit the jungle yeah
if there was no ground-level hallow
wintry cedar
It was on the side my jungle wasn’t
hollow shell
What was on the ground?
wintry cedar
theoretically it should’ve hit my desert
hollow shell
And it just... randomly started up in the underground? After skipping the desert?
wintry cedar
I had a hallow pretty much directly under my house
But as far as above ground goes..nope
hollow shell
Well yeah there's also the random seeds placed around the world by smashing altars
hollow shell
Prolly a part of the V-half yeah
cuz you see they converge underneath spawn
bigger picture
I require map screenshots for proof of your desert getting skipped cuz that just does not happen
wintry cedar
Yeah see, the other side got the corruption. But the Hallow just ended up on an island
I’m not at my computer
hollow shell
It would hit the island and whatever was between the island and your underground bit
it doesn't work like meteors
hollow shell
Well, you can
Only you can edit the sugg
wintry cedar
Fixed
wintry cedar
Fixed again lol
hollow shell
aight cool
wintry cedar
Is there spawn protection for Hallows?
hollow shell
wdym?