not that glass
#suggestions-discussion
raven shell
ill just use teh suggested calamity weapons guide since thats probably where most people would go to check what weapons they need
sand umbra
thanks Discord for briefly shitting yourself, really appreciate it
zenith hazel
saying buff mage class is too vague tbh, narrow it down to specific weps
gusty geode
Pre-hardmode mage is weird
Cuz it's generally considered pretty sparse in content early-game
Except it's technically not because Meteor gear, Jungle Armor and Water Bolt can all be obtained pre-boss
But nobody acknowledges them as pre-boss cuz of when you're supposed to get them
raven shell
i said pre perforator,
zenith hazel
because for all we know, flare bolt is broken whereas hellwing staff just exists
yes, pre-perfs mage is also pretty vague
raven shell
bruh
smoky wagon
unless they nerfed hellwing staff it kinda destroys everything in that tier
sand umbra
I recall Hellwing Staff having a pretty powerful niche against Perfs
smoky wagon
hellwing staff makes worms into a joke
sand umbra
eats the worms for breakfast
raven shell
eldritch tome vs hellwing staff
zenith hazel
alright, will look into them later
sand umbra
it's not really good for many other combat purposes though
generally, it serves purpose best as a utility weapon when exploring or as a crowd control weapon
(seriously, thing gives off a shitload of light and consistently travels through tiles, it's extremely useful for finding stuff underground)
ashen warren
lol
wooden wedge
@steel bison there's another way to get it, fishing it up with a rare chance
steel bison
yeah, but fishing like waiting to catch frogs is slow too
scenic crypt
with lategame fishing rods in calamity frog leg shouldn't be too hard to fish though
rapid pivot
On higher difficulties, you will be fishing more than enough to get the Frog Leg.
Ebonkoi and Armored Cavefish alone provide more than enough opportunities.
... uh
this is kinda why you wanna pass a sugg by discussion first
scenic crypt
whats wrong though
rapid pivot
Why would you keep frog legs, an item that cannot stack, for making bounding potions?
hollow shell
"Make it so that we can make Bounding Potions can be made using Frog Legs as well"
There's something wrong with the grammar here
scenic crypt
my bad
swift wadi
Make it so that we can make Bounding Potions can be made using Frog Legs as well
scenic crypt
what other stackable item can be used instead
rapid pivot
Hm. ... Pink Gel, maybe?
Think that'd make more sense, anyone?
in general; you really shouldn't post suggs without posting them here in discussion first
hollow shell
Pink Gel makes sense yeah
The way his sugg is currently is valid
(but it is a bit weird)
scenic crypt
should i change it pink gel would be better
hollow shell
See I'm not sure, cuz you do have Frog Leg tied into your reasoning
scenic crypt
or perhaps another potion ingredient fish from the jungle
rapid pivot
eh, can't help but think frog leg would only make sense if it crafted more than one at a time
hollow shell
Pink Gel definitely already has a lot more usages than frogs and Frog Legs
rapid pivot
hm
actually, that makes another thought occur; don't we need more uses for like
the ocean fish?
hollow shell
I think you could just add a note to the sugg that the recipe would probably craft more than one potion at once
considering Frog Legs do not stack (and the fact that 1 Frog Leg apparently equals 10 Frogs according to the recipe)
rapid pivot
like, y'know, trout and shrimp and all them
because most of them have the sole use of being made into cooked fish/well fed, and nothing else
scenic crypt
should keep the fishes within the jungle cuz of the maneater bulbs
rapid pivot
nah, not talking about your sugg; just, in general
scenic crypt
then yes they should have more purpose
ashen warren
lol
left crest
A change I found was needed after the summoner update:
Nerf Crim/Corroslimes vs WoF
These two weapons, identical in stats and function, shred the Wall of Flesh easily with on-tier summoner accessories, getting kill times much faster than anything else even in Revengeance and giving the Wall no chance to use its extreme speed during the later phases of the fight. They can even kill the Wall before many of the Hungries die.
ashen warren
fun fact: suggestions that are about nerfing one specific item never hit 120 stars
hollow shell
Didn't expect you to be right but you right
Closest we got was nerfing ranger Bloodflare armor bloodsplosions, back in February, then none before that for months
indigo fog
There was a suggestion for buffing one specific item that got 120 stars
hollow shell
Buff suggestions do seem to go through decently often
Significantly more often than nerfs
(tho that could just be because buff suggestions are more common than nerf suggestions. I don't know, haven't ran the numbers)
sand umbra
lowkey people want buffs more than nerfs
even though nerfs are generally the more suitable approach for assessing outliers in power level
radiant meadow
Buff aerial bane
sand umbra
sand umbra
but like
the reason nerf suggs don't go through isn't because there's less or more of either side
it's an innate lean in preference, at least here, towards buffing "weak" items rather than nerfing particularly strong ones
or at least, that's what I've observed from my time on this server 
radiant meadow
Because ooa is a terrible event of high challenge, the rewarded weapons must be top tier
sand umbra
so what you're saying is that I should buff Sky Dragon's Fury and Flying Dragon to the mountains of too fuckin' strong
radiant meadow
Yes
hollow idol
Boss rush DSiir
hollow shell
@winged fiber Boss suggestions aren't allowed
also you can fight a buffed DS during the boss rush
hollow idol
Also for the wiki thing go bug gamepedia about it if it doesnt already exist
winged fiber
Would "being able to fight boss rush variants outside of the boss rush" be a non-problematic suggestion?
hollow idol
Its been suggested before so I guess you could
civic pond
mobile wiki
ashen warren
that just sounds like a trojan horse for future bosses
winged fiber
A return of the future bosses sounds nice but not required
unique vector
they wont return because there were major conflicts within the team abt why they were added in the first place
fervent citrus
You guys about the future bosses? Imagine those returning 
frosty frost
I know my suggestion is probably gonna get memed cause "who uses mobile stuff to look things up while playing anyways?" But I know I can't be the only one, right?
dusty stirrup
Focus on adding the actually planned bosses first should be prioritized anyway
ashen warren
using a phone to maximise resources on a pc is actually more common than you'd think
winged fiber
On an irrelevant note, nice PFP Phupper
ashen warren
but coding a mobile app is a fucking task and I doubt it would happen
fervent citrus
Using a phone to... wait whot 
tepid root
why are you using fandom wiki
somber imp
@somber imp Is the only reason for that because you want to listen to the music?
(Even though YouTube and Music Boxes both exist?)
@hollow shell
Nono not just that. I think the Boss is Just kinda easy. Theres a easy tactic how to defeat him even before the eye.
ashen warren
fandom and gamepedia merged iirc
frosty frost
Gamepedia and fandom are like the same yea
calm onyx
A phone is a ghetto second screen. I used it a lot for quick wiki searching, but my god class setups is scuffed on mobile.
hollow shell
Well I mean Crabulon's a very early boss
winged fiber
By the way, what do the exclamations mean in the suggestions
tepid root
check the pins
winged fiber
Ah, gotcha
I thought that it triggered some sort of automatic filter because my suggestion contained the word "boss"
ashen warren
crabulon has a track that is way more intense than it has any right to be honestly
fervent citrus
^
sturdy pelican
nah it’s just vibe music
ashen warren
considering how slow and easy crab is
fervent citrus
The theme is just awesome 
hollow shell
Dekarus, a good reason to mention would be practicing bosses without having to go through the whole rush
ashen warren
it's a great song, but it doesn't fit so well
winged fiber
Nah, if you're talking music that's way more intense than it has any right to be, look at the Desert Scourge's theme
fervent citrus
I guess the theme is meant to be groovy 
hollow shell
np
fervent citrus
DS is that easy
ashen warren
lum
fervent citrus
Whenever i farm arma DS i always respawn him as fast as possible so the music continues
Heya thuns
ashen warren
o/
winged fiber
Where do I post a Calamity song to ping that guy with
fervent citrus
Wdym?
winged fiber
Wanna make sure I'm not posting music in the wrong channel, but it's Calamity discussions so I'm confused
ashen warren
you mean me?
winged fiber
Yus
fervent citrus
Hmm, i spose you can do it there
winged fiber
There?
ashen warren
just dm me I guess
fervent citrus
Cuz it is calamity related
somber imp
Well I mean Crabulon's a very early boss
@hollow shell
Of course but the eye of cthulhu also is a early Boss but hes way harder.
sturdy pelican
but his extras theme is a banger
winged fiber
Where is there
hollow shell
m, I guess
Just kinda seems weird that you predicate your suggestion on his theme rather than his difficulty primarily
fervent citrus
Crabulon is easy and yet i die to him in rev
winged fiber
Nah, Rover, I'm just saying I want a version of Desert Scourge where I keep hearing the entire theme if I don't just die in the first 20 seconds
Ya feel me?
hollow shell
Nah I'm talking to Muzzy
fervent citrus
Hmm
winged fiber
Oh, gotcha
fervent citrus
music boxes
hollow shell
Music boxes do exist
fervent citrus
Too bad they are so hard to get 
To me anyway
and thats why it doesnt matter lol
glossy falcon
Why is everyone reposting their Suggestions a day after they posted them originally
rapid pivot
is that being a trend lately?
hollow shell
It was a repost of someone else's sugg, actually
ashen warren
posting in suggestions nearer than a week shouldn't be allowed
glossy falcon
I saw the old FIshron and the Boss rush boss suggs yesterday
hollow shell
You're only allowed to repost your own sugg after a week
glossy falcon
I saw a couplle of other ones I recognized today as well
winged fiber
I just joined this server today so that's not on me
somber imp
Just kinda seems weird that you predicate your suggestion on his theme rather than his difficulty primarily
@hollow shell
For me its equal important. But it just feels fighting Yharon with EoC music.
I mean its a fun Boss of course. But you fight him after the Eye and thats kinda weird that you have a easy Boss after such a hard Boss.
winged fiber
I came to spread the gospel of the glorious Sand Worm
hollow shell
I spose
glossy falcon
Might be the same kind of suggestion then, but I swear I saw it yesterday
Might've been 2 days ago
glossy falcon
But I'm pretty sure Izzysmart's sugg was recent
hollow shell
@crisp widget That is not a great reason
You're gonna need to elaborate more on why a dodo pet would be a good idea to add to the mod
glossy falcon
Don;t be a coward @fervent citrus Ping him
indigo fog
My original old duke buff sugg was over a week ago
winged fiber
Rover, wanna hear something stupid that I just realized
glossy falcon
Might have been @indigo fog and the quarantine is really starting to just make the days blur together
crisp widget
Well we only have 1 bird pet in the game
hollow shell
Sure
ashen warren
even better reasoning
hollow shell
Why is it important that we get more bird pets
winged fiber
So, I was thinking "I'll do it myself" regarding the uber Desert Scourge idea, but then I realized that Terraria mods all run on Visual Basic and I have no idea how that language works
ashen warren
wait whats the 1 bird pet now
crisp widget
The parrot
fervent citrus
Try making the sprite and coding urself and the chance it will be excepted will rise by a wopping 1%
hollow shell
Actually no, they use C# with Microsoft XNA
winged fiber
Oh, that's actually a lot better
ashen warren
lol visual basic
crisp widget
Ok
winged fiber
...Well, I'm an idiot, I was opening the files in the Visual Basic format because I misread
winged fiber
Frankly, the biggest question is "will I make enough progress with this before I shelve it pseudo-permanently for another project somewhere completely unrelated"
And the answer is probably no
hollow shell
Also @frosty frost There is a way for you to view wiki pages on mobile using desktop view
If your browser doesn't already have a built-in checkbox for it, it's near the bottom of every wiki page
It doesn't look great, of course
but it's better than the default mobile view
somber imp
You're only allowed to repost your own sugg after a week
@hollow shell
Am i able to post different suggestions / day?
hollow shell
Yes
somber imp
Nice
hollow shell
There's no hard limit on the amount of suggs you can post in a day but usually people will call you out and tell you to spread em out more
somber imp
Thats the exclamation mark?
ashen warren
I thought that posting more than 2 in a row would get you squinted at
somber imp
Oh okay.
ashen warren
winged fiber
So, need opinions before I throw this one out there
Some sort of surface/artificial Abyss; it'd be nice, but what'd be the reason for it aside from a surface Sunken sea
hollow shell
Hm?
somber imp
@hollow shell
For me its equal important. But it just feels fighting Yharon with EoC music.
I mean its a fun Boss of course. But you fight him after the Eye and thats kinda weird that you have a easy Boss after such a hard Boss.
@somber imp
So you think its a good/okay idea? :0
Its my First Suggestion idk how it works lol
winged fiber
Are you saying hm to me, Rover
hollow shell
Yes I am
winged fiber
Basically, I'm trying to think of justifications for a surface abyss biome
hollow shell
If you have the idea "surface Abyss" and then you're trying to find a reason for it,
then you're doing something wrong
winged fiber
Well, here's the thing
hollow shell
The reason should always come first
and then you come up with some solution based on it
winged fiber
I'd like it, but I'm having trouble putting into words why I like it aside from it being the only biome that comes to mind in Calamity that can't be playermade
hollow shell
Your sugg is fine Muzzy. Not how I would have worded/executed it but it's valid.
Surface Abyss can't be done because several factors related to it are based on depth
somber imp
Of course. It just was a small thaught. not smth big. ^^
hollow shell
and the fact that if you expose yourself to breathable air in the Abyss you start rapidly dying
gusty geode
If I could make a suggestion tho
ashen warren
an artificial abyss could be useful though
winged fiber
So basically it's far too much of an annoyance to consider because you guys would need to code a "depth 0" Abyss
ashen warren
since miniboss farm
hollow shell
Well the thing is
Going to the bottom of the Abyss to reach the minibosses is supposed to be a trek
It makes it significant
rapid pivot
tbh if you want an artificial abyss for deco purposes, you could always just grab voidstone
also; dear lord, how many blocks would you need to MAKE an artificial abyss
winged fiber
Yes
gusty geode
What if it was a combination of the used material and the depth
Player-placed Abyss Gravel on the surface = Layer 1
Player-placed Abyss Gravel underground = Layer 2
Player-placed Voidstone on the surface = Layer 3
Player-placed Voidstone underground = Layer 4
This only applies to player-placed blocks to avoid confusing the naturally generated Abyss
ashen warren
lol
scenic crypt
lol
gusty geode
Abyss Gravel makes its own water
But last I checked Voidstone doesn't for some reason
Idk if that's been fixed yet
winged fiber
No, neither do anymore outside of the Abyss
Also, you know what'd be an odd suggestion that I'm not putting in there because it's technically against the suggestion rules
"If you use the Desert Medallion in a surface Sunken Sea biome you summon a friendly Desert Scourge because you unsunk the sea"
scenic crypt
scenic crypt
the worm pet needs multiple segments too
winged fiber
Obviously it needs 87 segments specifically
ashen warren
desert scourge legendary summon
hybrid fjord
for each minion slot
10 slots = 870 segments
we're reaching canon DoG lengths here
ashen warren
scenic crypt
yes
hybrid fjord
"hydrate or diedrate"
winged fiber
Even better if you get some sort of bonus for fully hydrating the desert Scourge
ashen warren
worm pet
winged fiber
Oh, there's a wholesome idea
Desert Scourge light pet where it holds a prism shard if you fully rehydrate it
hybrid fjord
pacifist ending
winged fiber
To be fair it's just a thirsty boi
It's not like most bosses where they actively want to kill you
hybrid fjord
most of the animalistic bosses are doing it out of self defense or instinct
gusty geode
Still amazes me that it hasn't found the Sunken Sea yet
Maybe if you were to summon it while at a massive oasis-type thing that might provide some bonuses?
winged fiber
TBH I think it just can't reach that deep with all the hard fossils
Assume its teeth are made of Victide (basically)
Victide can't break through the fossils that are above the Sunken Sea
hybrid fjord
why can't it just find the ocean then
winged fiber
Because the Ocean is too far away I guess?
The desert is usually near the center of the map
It's probably hybernating because it's starving and thirsty so it tries to conserve its energy
hybrid fjord
there are other smaller deserts that can spawn hella close to the ocean
gusty geode
That's what Duke did
Also maybe I just got lucky
But my last Sunken Sea had openings to inside it all over the place
So I could get in pretty well effortlessly pre-DS
ashen warren
actually you can do that like 90% of the time
breaking through the thing is entirely not needed
winged fiber
Maybe it's a freshwater worm while the ocean is saltwater
hybrid fjord
theres really no point in going to the sunken sea pre-ds though
ashen warren
water type doesn't matter, aquatic scourge existo
winged fiber
Yeah, but that's because it's already a sulphury boi
ashen warren
scourges existed before the sea got polluted
winged fiber
They may be completely different species
And the Desert Scourge needed the eutrophic waters of the Sunken Sea
hollow shell
What is this convo
ashen warren
hydrating worm thing i guess
hollow shell
but a fake suggestion, right?
winged fiber
I'm not sure
ashen warren
it originally spawned from the idea of having something happen if you hydrate DS, byeah it's not a thing anymore
winged fiber
^
Basically if you shoot the Desert Scourge enough times with the water gun, the fight ends and you get a Desert Scourge pet/light pet
ashen warren
I would def agree to having something happen if you hydrate the worm somehow
whether it allies with you via weapon or whatnot, it'd be cool
hollow shell
I guess you could make a sugg about that
ashen warren
and add big lore flavour
hollow shell
Just a general "Add some kind of easter egg for if you hydrate the Desert Scourge"
ashen warren
feels a bit specific
winged fiber
I just threw in several example ideas that could be done
crisp widget
Hey do I put a photo of my design?
ashen warren
flashbacks to last night
hollow idol
I mean a dodo is pretty straight forward
ashen warren
no need, it's a dodo
winged fiber
Reworded to properly explain it
winged fiber
I have one other much less...odd suggestion that I'll throw in a bit later
crisp widget
Fixed it
earnest harness
name has dodo in it
wants a dodo implemented
hmmmmmmmmmmmmm
hollow shell
Keep in mind that Specific Item Suggestions are disallowed, if you want a new item you gotta keep it general
Entry in the Suggestion Don'ts doc in pins:
winged fiber
Question, are you talking to me
hollow shell
Nah, Dodo
crisp widget
Ok
winged fiber
Okay, so me putting an example in there but not have it be the focus is fine
hollow shell
Yeah, you're good
You even provide additional reasoning for that possibility
so you're double-good
winged fiber
Glad to hear
crude geode
Quick question Rover
Whenever the suggestion reworks come in, Will suggestions that reached 120 stars before the channels update have to do more work at all or will they still be delivered?
ashen warren
usually it's never retroactive
hollow shell
They'll still function as they do currently, just like we do for star req raisings
crude geode
Ok coolio
hollow shell
(I'm wondering if we'll need to change the star req soon after the rework occurs
I'm sure it will have an effect on the amount of stars suggs get)
winged fiber
By the way, Rover, how long do you think I should wait before I throw in another suggestion
crude geode
It’s a possibility that the number might need to decrease/increase.
winged fiber
This will definitely be at the very least the last for the night
It's just something I remember testing earlier today and it bothered me a bit
hollow shell
Probably should wait for some more people to post suggs
cuz that'd be your third one in close succession
ashen warren
change it to 100 maybe, nice even numbor
hollow shell
Just write it down somewhere and you can post it in an hour or two (or tomorrow morning, idk your time zone)
crude geode
Ehhhh, we probably wanna wait and see what happens Squeak.
hollow shell
The thing is I don't know whether it'll make star counts greater or lesser on average
winged fiber
Oh trust me, I'm not forgetting this one
ashen warren
not straight away, i just mean once it happens
if it needs to be lowered, 100 good number
winged fiber
Because voidstone not being blast-proof even though Abyss Gravel is bothers me way too much
kek
carmine island
Oooh boss rush bosses outside of boss rush
I sugg'd that once. Didnt get very far :P
hollow shell
It could be greater because the channel is less flooded, and will only have quality suggs
It could be lower because it's a weird new system and people may forget to star a sugg they support after it gets moved from the posting channel to the proper channel
crude geode
Only time will really be able to tell.
hollow shell
Yeah
carmine island
I feel like boss rush variants outside of boss rush would be so fun with the 900% health bar config
Providence with x million health would be nuts
ashen warren
900% hp boss rush enraged yharon
carmine island
YIKES
winged fiber
Oh I was talking about the Desert Scourge hydration half-meme suggestion
crisp widget
How could u beat that
hollow shell
a lot of patience
carmine island
That fight would last like 3 hours
ashen warren
I've beaten +100% hp permaraged yharon
it's not as bad as you'd think but at the same time lole
carmine island
But 900%
Adding a zero to endgame bosses is a lot, and makes them tank shit like the nanoblack for 20 minutes
winged fiber
Oh, I just realized, would adding in "make the water gun craftable" be a good addition to the suggestion, since in Vanilla you can't get the water gun until post-plantera
carmine island
Wait really?
ashen warren
honestly I'd just make the suggestion be an easter egg for hydrating desert scourge somehow
scenic crypt
cant u buy it from travelling merchant at any point
ashen warren
not limiting it to one thing and such
hollow shell
welll
It's still just an easter egg
Also no it is not post-Plant
Travelling Merchant sells it at any point
carmine island
The wiki doesnt specify post plant
winged fiber
Huh, the Terraria wiki needs to work on its formatting
hollow shell
Hm?
winged fiber
Oh, now I see what it is
hollow shell
Oh were you lookin at Pulse Bow
scenic crypt
pulse bow below it is post-
carmine island
Derp
winged fiber
Yeah, with how its format is I thought it was saying everything in that category
carmine island
Ok... desert scourge used to be blue right?
hollow shell
nevermind I can't fix that it's not done how I thought it was done
And yes, he used to be blue
severe maple
honestly that should be an easter egg
then he leaves with a message thanking you and giving you unique loot
subtle oracle
An Easter egg? Is that against the rules in any way???
winged fiber
Actually, there you go, if you guys follow the light pet suggestion make it based on his old sprite
hollow shell
Perhaps
And no Easter Egg suggestions aren't necessarily disallowed
It can potentially skirt the line of being a joke suggestion tho, which are disallowed
This sugg is serious, though.
severe maple
@winged fiber I support your suggestion
winged fiber
Much appreciated
carmine island
This discussion has been about DS and I've been listening to his theme the whole time without noticing wtf
severe maple
we need more interactive easter eggs, honestly
scenic crypt
^^
carmine island
I wouldn't give it top 5, but its up high
subtle oracle
Maybe this could be an April fools joke? Nah, not jokey enough
scenic crypt
u guys prefer ds or as theme
winged fiber
It's not jokey, it's wholesome
severe maple
DS
carmine island
DS for the sake of looping the same part less
winged fiber
DS easily
carmine island
An april fools joke would be giving yharon lorde eyes
scenic crypt
shit
winged fiber
Also, another thing I like about DS' theme is about how there's a hint of the main theme/Calamitas theme in there
carmine island
Wrong
carmine island
Calamitas's theme has DS in it
winged fiber
True
scenic crypt
calamitas theme has motifs of all bosses up till her
scenic crypt
hive part is the more tranquil part
winged fiber
TFW just realized that Calamitas' theme is a compilation
carmine island
SCal is an ultimate mashup
But good luck finding anything
I've only found rotjd
RotJD is 6 minutes in aaaand that's all I've got
winged fiber
Desert Scourge's theme is still at the beginning
carmine island
59 seconds into hive mind is what plays after Slime Gods in Calamitas theme
Cryogen is the first thing playing before the motif lightning round
bitter drift
as confusing and probably complex as shit the suggestion is, i like, i kind of easer egg to take a peak at DS's past look
tho not sure why it is a light pet of all things
winged fiber
Nah, that was just a suggestion
ashen warren
get radiator tbh
winged fiber
Holding a prism shard to tie back to it's roots regarding lore
Since it was originally a being of the previously not Sunken Sunken Sea
bitter drift
does his lore regards anything connecting him to prism shards?
winged fiber
Nope, just the Sunken Sea
bitter drift
except his former environment
winged fiber
Which is where they grow naturally
bitter drift
except this? isn't stated if DS has any connection at all to these shards as like the prism backs
in fact who said these crystals were around at the time of the not so sunken sea
winged fiber
Can't be proven either way, the Light pet was just an idea
Regular pet would also work if they don't wanna do light pet but still like the idea
Not to mention, since defeating him unlocks the Sunken Sea, it could be pretty easy to make a connection
Or the fact that Prism-backs only start dropping shards after he's defeated, but that's mainly for gameplay reasons
teal ibex
it would honestly drastically benefit your suggestion to say "some special reward" rather than the whole life pet tangent
because it honestly really is tangential to the whole thing you're going for, lol
winged fiber
Fair point, changed it
somber imp
Oh im sorry
@somber imp boss suggestions aren't allowed
@gray nebula Are item suggestions allowed?
frail mantle
if they're specific, no
winged fiber
IIRC it's not specifics, but if they're just an example as a part of another suggestion (e.g. a Desert Scourge pet as an easter egg for hydrating the Desert Scourge) then it should be fine
hollow idol
you can suggest an item, but not a specific one
frail mantle
if it's more of a concept than a specific item it's usually ok
frail mantle
yea
lean holly
what if its an amazing concept
gray nebula
also the item should have a reasoning beyond "hahahahh because itd be cool"
winged fiber
Like more Sand Worm
frail mantle
remember that, like, six specific item suggestions from when they were allowed have been added
gray nebula
pls add my super auric gun of doom that has an instakill and deals infinite damage because i think it would be funny to have that and it would be a good reward for endgame players thank u devs pls add
somber imp
Are item drops specific -For example bcs one enemy does not drop a lot of loot?
gray nebula
you can suggest a drop for an ennemy
winged fiber
Just making sure, the Desert Scourge giving you an item as thanks for re-hydrating it is a viable reason, right
somber imp
pls add my super auric gun of doom that has an instakill and deals infinite damage because i think it would be funny to have that and it would be a good reward for endgame players thank u devs pls add:feelscoffeeblanket:
@gray nebula Perfect.
winged fiber
Well, the entire reason it's an enemy boss is because it's starving and extremely thirsty
gray nebula
I mean what part is the reason and what part is the result
"because it would make sense" great reasoning then iirc
winged fiber
It gives you an item if you give it enough water to rehydrate it
tepid root
add my epic uwu-senpai-sama-chan OC weapon of Auric Shadow Ore Soul Fragment tier with a left-click, a right-click, a middle-click, a right face button, a C-Sharp note, and a function involving rubbing your index finger on the trackpad of your laptop in the shape of a dodecahedron
frail mantle
<><><><><>
gray nebula
~propertea
winged fiber
Or for a more simple way of doing it gives you something the moment it has the "wet" debuff
gray nebula
that suggestions sounds a bit memey but rover said it was ok and hes the suggestion guy
winged fiber
I wanted to give a memey suggestion that's got actual logic to it
And to be fair
It's a lot less memey than this
subtle oracle
Dev item btw
winged fiber
Oh and on a completely unrelated note hello there
gray nebula
pls make PSC for every boss becaus i thiink it would be cool :)
winged fiber
Sorry, what's PSC
subtle oracle
Hey
gray nebula
profaned soul crystal, one of the coolest dev items
subtle oracle
What is that spelling? Can iBan even spell?!
gray nebula
but yeah avoid comparing stuff to dedicated content because its usually more memey and has more work put into it
winged fiber
Gotcha
Now, do want to clarify that I do not want a god weapon or anything ridiculous, if anything the opposite
fervent citrus
heh i just read the easter egg sugg :P
winged fiber
I mainly had a pet/light pet in mind
gray nebula
i know you had a pet/light pet in mind sadly thats kinda specific
winged fiber
Yeah, that's why I removed it from the suggestion
I know examples as part of a bigger suggestion are technically fine, but still possibly looked down on so I edited it out and you guys can decide for yourself what said Easter Egg would be if you decide to go for it
Oh, and question since I wasn't on this Discord when it happened
how many suggestions did you have to delete on April Fools' Day
gray nebula
I don't think we got any
somber imp
If i delete a message does it gets deleted for all? Yeah right? I accidentally send a message 2 times in the suggestions channel
gray nebula
it gets deleted for most people, but the moderators still have acess to the message
somber imp
Oh. uhm.
gray nebula
don't worry it's just here so that people can't insult others and then quickly delete their messages
winged fiber
Well, then the mods will still see my call for Supreme Desert Scourge that puts Supreme Calamitas to shame
gray nebula
alos muzzy could you please remove that last line in your suggestion tho, it's not really useful
somber imp
Of course
winged fiber
So quick question
If I have a memey lore question that actually is lore-related, should I post it in lore discussion or general Calamity talk
tepid root
there were some meme suggs during april fools i remember
fervent citrus
any examples?
tepid root
dont think i saved them h
fervent citrus
lel
terse ravine
Having an Old One's Army tweak and more loot etc. would make it more fun and interesting. Kinda not doing the event because there's no need to, but it's a fun event that I'd like to see get some more love
lean holly
Maybe allowing us to skip to wave 7
Or making a wave 8
With a dragon esque boss
But there's already yharon so nvm
terse ravine
True, but there's Betsy
past canyon
Lol I agree ive never fought the old ones army during a playthru, always seems too hard and boring to make the arena, I reckon when u summon it, there should be an arena kinda like supreme calamitas so u dont have to make it yourself hahaha
bitter drift
the old one army in general isn't really motivating
:איק:
translation to :איק: is 
and the OOA's loots is at best mediocre and at worst trash (aka armors)
dry latch
Suggestion:
Make the Sentinels of the Devourer drop Treasure Bags
Currently there's no efficient way to farm them, unlike other bosses (where we can use arma) or mobs (where we can use candles and potions). Since they have rare drops (cough guidelight of oblivion cough ) it'd only be fair to provide an option to increase the chances of getting those drops. So I suggest making them drop Treasure Bags, so they get affected by Arma.
hollow shell
(I was planning on moving the bluecheck cutoff date once the beginning of April rolled around. oops)
I guess I could just do it right now. It won't look pretty in the statistics to have it be done mid-month but I think it's better than getting bluechecked for a sugg posted in the era where SISs were still allowed
somber imp
What does a bluecheck mean? lol
winged fiber
Rover, thanks for the advice in changing my suggestion a bit, it's already at over 40 stars
hollow shell
np I guess, lol
ashen warren
I've realized there isn't many grappling hooks in the area from dual hook to lunar hook
hollow shell
Talli, phrase that recipe proposal a bit less directly.
You can say that could be the recipe (and provide a reason for why it should be that recipe) but you shouldn't say that's what it must be for sure, cuz it's the dev's final decision on what it'll be
hollow shell
Looks good, thanks Talli 👍
ashen warren
Np. No issue fixing a text mistake like that.
But yeah, rn I'm stuck at fishron due to the dual hook not being enough to out grapple p3 death duke. Lunar hook isn't available yet so it's just.. Ow. Figured making this suggestion could help fill that void in hooks and help a lot of players.
hollow shell
Are Christmas/Spooky not better than Dual?
Their velocity and reach are higher according to the wiki
indigo fog
I think a recipe for the Bat Hook should be post-Golem tier so it doesn't just overshadow all of the post-Plantera hooks
dry latch
There's something in the Suggestion Don'ts doc about not suggesting auric/exo tier guns. Is that just for guns or for all weapons on that tier? cuz I'd like to suggest a new summoner wep lol (cuz summoners only get 1 wep, rogues get 2, mages get 3, rangers get 4 and melee gets 6)
hollow shell
It used to be all Auric/Exo weapons but now it is only gun.
You can suggest an Auric/Exo summon weapon.
(I'm decently sure one is already planned but go ahead anyhow)
indigo fog
Doesn't melee have 7 exo tier weapons?
ashen warren
exo tier isn't auric so to speak
exo items are the ones crafted out of many weapons using auric bars
hollow shell
Don't even start with that distinction before Draedon is implemented
ashen warren
on-tier there is gael's, exoblade, shiv, yoyo, flail, patron meme weapon, something else?
indigo fog
there's also murasama i guess
ashen warren
that's right, ark
hollow shell
Yeah if you're counting Gael's you may as well count Murasama
wouldn't call that a broadsword tho
so 6 total swords
plus a flail and a yoyo
dry latch
Suggestion:
Add a new Summoner Weapon that can be made using Auric bars
Currently, Summoners only get to make 1 weapon out of Auric bars, compared to the other classes (rogues get 2, mages get 3, rangers get 4 and melee gets 6). Adding another weapon will give summoners more choices and more incentive to mine more auric. Perhaps a new Sentry weapon? The last one is from Old Duke, which is Pre-DoG. That will give summoners more things to do during boss fights (summoning towers near bosses).
hollow shell
looks good
dry latch
ashen warren
exo tier spear when
hollow idol
Baby flak crabs are the best
hollow idol
how could you not love this child
ashen warren
they must be protected
and then hopefully they wont blast your head off in your sleep
gray nebula
swift wadi
dry grotto
gray nebula
youve already got the ultimate accs post dog
bitter drift
frail mantle
who needs exo hook when you have Bat Hook EX (Bat Hook EX)
hybrid fjord
We need more hooks in general, especially post moon lord
granite sphinx
you know what, now that i think on it, does calamity add any hooks?
cause im racking my brain right now and for the life of me im drawing a blank
frail mantle
Serpent's Grasp and Bobbit Hook
hollow shell
^ Two
granite sphinx
serpent's bite not grasp
and okay yeah theres 2
those have gotta be new though, cause i have never heard of them before now
not even remotely
bobbit hook absolutely is new cause i havent seen any kinda hook drop from the worm before this update
and i might have missed the grasp
fuckin
gray nebula
bobbit hook got added very recently
granite sphinx
bite
granite sphinx
thanks leon, you got me saying it
yeah thats what i was thinking
i havent gone fishing in the sunken sea so i dont know all the drops off top head
but okay yeah calamity adds in 2 hooks
distant gyro
exo hook idea is inferior to profaned energy hook 
granite sphinx
looking at the stats and comparing them to vanillas, bobbit hook seems like a decent trade off
super good range but only 2 hooks and can only hook one thing at a time
serpents bite is a decent 2 hook upgrade right into hardmode
can fire 3 times though which is fun
sooo
eh?
one decent immediate hardmode upgrade thats easy to get
and one post polterghast (seriously, fucking polterghast) that trades off lunars 4 hooks for longer range
could probably do with a few more
im not gonna ask "oh there should be hooks for all tiers!" but a few more sprinkled in would be nice
hollow shell
(There isn't much value in having a lot of simultaneous hooks)
gray nebula
bobbit hook can only have 1 hook at a time iirc
granite sphinx
its an upgraded dual hook
gray nebula
not really
hollow shell
Yeah p much
gray nebula
its an upgraded bat hook
granite sphinx
bat hook is shorter
also besides the range it functions identically to the dual hook
gray nebula
yes but it has the same effect of making you fly at high speed
granite sphinx
jeez 25 velocity
granite sphinx
looking at vanilla wiki the difference between bat hook and dual hook momentum is 1.5 in favor of bat hook
the lunar hook has better
its not an upgraded bat hook
the only thing the bat hook has going for it is its incredible range prehardmode
it is an upgraded dual hook that has insane velocity and reach
frail mantle
^
distant gyro
Velocity in the table is presumably the hook's velocity
frail mantle
that's why Bat Hook is so good
distant gyro
Reminder that this part of the note exists in Bat Hook: Pulls in the user faster than any other hook.
granite sphinx
okay so after a closer inspection, neither wiki says how fast the player is pulled in
hollow shell
Would be nice if the wiki had a dedicated column for that but 🤷♀️
granite sphinx
just how fast the hook is displayed
my b
got that mixed up
but alright, its fast at pulling you in
bat hook is still only a single hook
frail mantle
i don't find multiple hook hooks to be that useful, the only part i ever use is using hooks to yeet myself around so multiple hooks don't matter
gray nebula
multiple hooks doesnt matter yes
and im pretty sure only one hook can be used at a time with the bobbit hook
granite sphinx
yes, exactly like the dual hook
thats the dual hooks thing, only one hook can be used at a time
like the bobbit hook
2 hooks, only one in use
gray nebula
ok then but yeah anyways that doesnt matter
granite sphinx
"that doesnt matter" if youre throwing out my argument then i get to throw out your argument of the hooks pulling you in faster
distant gyro
it really doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things
granite sphinx
we are human and we like to argue trivial shit
distant gyro
because there is no topic to be suggested/on a suggestion
gray nebula
i dont even know what we are arguing about
granite sphinx
obviously the bobbit hook is the best hook in the game
im arguing which hook its more similar to
frail mantle
why
granite sphinx
you say the bat hook, i say the dual hooks
gray nebula
why its more similar to bat hook because the coder said so
why does that even matter tho
granite sphinx
id like to ask who the coder is but most likely it was you
and it doesnt matter but i like to argue things like this cause its fun to me
gray nebula
I'm a spriter 
granite sphinx
ah
gray nebula
Ben coded the hook
granite sphinx
i was thinking of making the suggestion of adding a few hooks sprinkled throughout progression, maybe like 3 or 4
and this just happened
gray nebula
more hooks,,, never suggested before
granite sphinx
calamity adds in only 2 hooks to the game
and one of them was literally just released
frail mantle
isn't Bobbit from a couple updates ago
granite sphinx
nope
distant gyro
2 updates
granite sphinx
is it?
frail mantle
yea i wouldn't say it was just released
distant gyro
it was introduced in 1.4.3.002
granite sphinx
i dont follow updates religiously so eeehhhh
but yeah still very recent
my last clam playthrough was before that
granite sphinx
well yeah
but eh
kinda thinking where hooks should be popped in and what the hooks should do
gray nebula
sentient meat hook 
granite sphinx
it screams every time its thrown
im thinking of this one hook that less mobility and more defense oriented
when hooked youll gain a buff that gives you some hefty defense but neuters your damage
obvious trade off of losing that mobility but increased survivability
maybe an exo tier hook that grants special buffs depending on how many and what hooks are currently thrown out
oh fuck me im getting ideas
making a doc
granite sphinx
do you guys like specific item ideas or do you like to think for yourself?
frail mantle
specific item suggestions aren't allowed
gray nebula
that's the joke yep
granite sphinx
oh
i did read the rules on that but i guess i forgot that
still making a doc though
cause reasons
toxic kettle
I don't think that something that is pre-Yharon P2 and has such good horizontal speed as well as way more flight time than Elysian Tracers should get infinite flight time, especially since one of the rewards for killing Yharon, that being his lore item, grants you nigh-infinite flight time, and that with a downside
frail mantle
yea it has twice the flight time of Drew's wings, which, mind you, are the best wings in the game flight time wise
there is a tool like that though
it's called the Pwnagehammer
unless you meant a tool that can move Altars
toxic kettle
well you can mine them with hammers, but you won't get them
bitter drift
change the statigel's and god slayer's summoner set extra summon.
the reason I'm suggesting this is mainly for consistancy but there is also some balance aspect to this:
as of now every armor with 5 head pieces (except wulfrum) in calamity give an extra minion when you use it's summoner headgear,
this minion cannot be quarried by any other means and is useful on at least one of the bosses you fight in the range of this armor (yes even victide's) or at least that should be right.
the god slayer armor give you a mech worm a summon you can get by your self, you can make a case for this choice as the mech worm fully powered is quite useful against Yharon how ever this summon is not unique and force you to use the mech worm to get it's full potential and besides the fact that the fear mongered set (that is a purely summoner set) also exist at this stage giving you an alternative if you don't like the mech worm.
how ever the statigel armor set gives you a baby "slime god" who's only purpose is to take a potion slot for nothing:
it's only differences are that he does 2 more damage points on average (24 with the staff and 26 with the summoner armor) and that he changes color depending on your evil biome, this baby "slime god" does not even look like the slime god core but more of a baby ebonian or crimulan slime that you find in the corruption or crimson, it has the same size and flying sprite as the slimes from the slime staffs you get from the slime god himself, and while it sure is useful against the wall of flesh it (like most of your other summons at this point and {ironically} unlike the slimes you summon from the staffs) is not useful at all in the caves of hard mode and has a medium amount of usefulness at cryogen (until 50% health where is not slow nor on the ground anymore.) and unlike with the god slayer armor there is no replacement for statigel at WoF's level and it's debatable in EHM.
wow this is way longer then i expected
pliant bone
Drew's wings flight time is already extremely good in terms of fighting Yharon (Used to use drew's wings for Yhar when it was post-darksun tier) and uhh double the flight time sounds more than enough
bitter drift
@terse ravine pawn hammer and the hammer you buy from the truffle can brake demon and crimson alters
distant gyro
even pearlwood hammer can break altars
toxic kettle
I'm guessing they want it to drop so they can put it into their base
frail mantle
also aren't Corroslimes lowkey god vs Waffle
lost agate
If they behave
frail mantle
if you use them well, that is
zenith hazel
god slayer doesn't force you to use mechworm though
toxic kettle
There aren't that many items you make at an altar and quickly going to the Crimson/Corruption to make them isn't too much to ask tbf
zenith hazel
you can just use 1 mechworm slot and spend the rest on something like endo hydra and it'd still be viable for yharon
frail mantle
a little damage
zenith hazel
damage, just like any singular minion would
bitter drift
to Yharon, not that much
frail mantle
it ain't much but it's honest work
lost agate
The endo hydra has more potential iirc
bitter drift
wait it isn't?
lost agate
A sentry on your back
bitter drift
k
terse ravine
@bitter drift I know you can break them, but mine them then place them wherever you want is what I'm asking
Hold on lemme change the lanuage
frail mantle
so you don't want a tool to break them, but rather a tool to move them
terse ravine
yes
toxic kettle
Earth Lord 
tepid root
earth lord
ashen warren
yes
lost agate
hearty yew
@west gale Would you mind hunting down the donor for Dark Spark and asking if they're ok with that being changed?
west gale
yeah i know its technically indigo violet but the album cover just has purple and most people dont care about indigo
digital saddle
pepehands
west gale
hollow shell
@tulip parcel
Dark Spark sugg.
Also @terse ravine add a reason to your suggestion. Why do you want to place them down elsewhere?
hollow shell
Mason wants the pink beam to be replaced with a red beam to make it a more complete rainbow
tulip parcel
Sure, that's fine
hollow shell
Coolio
tulip parcel
The intent was for it to be a rainbow anyway
wheat cave
Im thinking about writing a suggestion to change some thing is ML fight.
- Make the Eyes not do contact damage while in his hands. Because its annoying, and technicaly, if the eyes do damage, so should his whole body, right?
- Make the Phantasmal Spheres not deal damage for a while after they are spawned
Why?
You cant really outrun ML, so you end up very close to him most of the time, and you end up getting hit by most of his attacks the second they spawn.
I would appreciate any thoughts on this
hollow shell
You can remove that bit about how his whole body should logically deal damage if the eyes do, it comes off as a forced argument. Keep it focused to your main point of unfair hits
I'm not too sure if the hits from the hands are that unfair though, considering they never really move quickly afaik?
wheat cave
The hands ot their projectiles?
It can happen if you are trying to get away from them, and you cant really go upwards because you dont know when theyll spawn, at least in my experience
hollow shell
The Phantasmal Spheres I can see causing some unfair hits. It's not very well-telegraphed, and they're pretty large and start with a good amount of velocity.
The hands themselves though, I think you should be able to avoid getting hit by them
wheat cave
The hands wouldn be so bad if there werent so many other things, but I can see your point
distant gyro
wheat cave
Thanks for the help Rover, ill think some more about it and will post it in Suggestions later
hollow shell
aighty
zenith hazel
repeatedly moaning
yeah that deserves a star
earnest harness
Give it the generic block breaking hit sound so it sounds like the beautiful symphony of mass excavation when you're killing it with something fast
hollow shell
That looks good
hollow shell
Suggestion system is still the same yeah
It's gettin reworked soon but atm it's unchanged
hollow shell
@ashen warren Bugginess that results in playing with several large content mods at once is not Calamity's problem to fix. There's always bound to be a bunch of inconsistencies and incompatibilities unless literally every mod creator was somehow on the same page
If Calamity is just buggy on its own in TML 64-bit, then you can probably submit a bug report about it to #bugs-read-pins (and please do describe what the bugs are)
tired haven
Let me just pull that up ig https://docs.google.com/document/d/1D9pQpr3Hm5wGvP4kI7DKIhMUbS6T9fshkp8Yv4iJx-A/edit
ashen warren
@hollow shell well I really don't play with large content mods other than calamity. A lot of people have this problem as well. The devs of tm 64 even checked calamity's code which has quite a few limitations with several different things including biomes and world genaration. I am truly sorry if it sounds like i'm begging but I'm just a real enthusiast with terraria in general and I want people to enjoy playing it.
wooden wedge
did you check the pins in #bugs-read-pins and read the bugs doc
there's mods listed there that break world gen with calamity
hollow shell
This response doesn't change anything I said.
If you're not playing with other content mods (which you kinda imply that you do in your sugg, "calamity is quite buggy when also having other mods instaled especially if mods add biomes"), then just report the Calamity-exclusive bugs in #bugs-read-pins
Don't post suggestions about fixing bugs. This is in the Don'ts doc in pins. They belong in the bugs channel.
ashen warren
@wooden wedge yes I actually checked it multiple times. I understand if there is no way to fix it or you don't have time for it I atleast want to thank you for reading it and speaking to me about it.
wooden wedge
I can't fix anything about calamity
hearty yew
@ashen warren I speak to Rartrin and Dradon regularly. If there's a problem with Calamity and TML64, I expect them to tell me, I don't need a third party.
If you've got a bug to report, as the others have said, #bugs-read-pins. I'd love to see it.
I run the bugs channel and handle cross mod compatibility for calamity, so if it's breaking with another mod I will see what I can do.
In any case, this isn't a suggestion, so @hollow shell I guess it's delete time.
hollow shell
Indeed
ashen warren
Ok
karmic stone
As of now obsidian skin potions are fairly useless
h.
toxic kettle
did he lie
wooden wedge
I mean
obsidian skin pots shouldn't share effects with warmth
because that just isn't logical
hollow shell
Nah, he's sayin the other way around from Warmth
wooden wedge
obsidian skin pots make you immune to lava not warm you up
toxic kettle
Warmth protects from the cold
Obsidian Skin protects from fire
hollow shell
He's saying it should reduce the damage of fire attacks, in the way that Warmth reduces damage for cold attacks
dapper thicket
Yes that is what im saying
wooden wedge
ah ok
hollow shell
I spose you could reword your main line
to make that clearer
That you don't want it to do exactly Warmth Potion's effects and you just mean it'll be in a similar vein
bitter drift
@hollow shell what is your opinion about changing the minions of the statigel's and god slayer's summoner armor bonus set?
hollow shell
Statigel could be changed prolly. Maybe shouldn't even be a minion, just some minion-based effect instead.
We already have summons with the slime AI in the same exact tier.
God Slayer is a bit weird but I don't have as much of a problem with it
bitter drift
i feel like EHM lacks minions who shoot though walls
and TBH god slayer wasn't at my point at first, i talked about it in the first place because of statigel
frail mantle
tbh i feel like a couple of Clam summon set minions could get a bit of a rework to be more interesting, not just GS and Statigel
bitter drift
victide?
frail mantle
mainly Daedalus and Hydrothermic but i've already talked about those so
yea Victide too, probably
bitter drift
Hydrothermic set is new for me
wheat cave
It feels like a lot of HM armor set minions are just things above head shooting something
frail mantle
though Victide at least does something unique, even if it doesn't contribute too much
bitter drift
ya
wheat cave
Reaver, Hydrothermic and such
bitter drift
yap i would suggest a buff rather then a change
frail mantle
Hydrothermic Armor is Ataxia armor except renamed
bitter drift
oh ok thank you
frail mantle
byeag Hydrothermic Vent and Daedalus Crystals are basically just reskinned Chloro Crystals that inflict debuffs and could be made more interesting
bitter drift
daedalus at least makes some kind of sense
digital saddle
Obsidian skin potions are by far the best lava resist in the game
digital saddle
Yes in calamity
sand umbra
Obsidian Skin Potions are still pretty chad due to not requiring an accessory slot
bitter drift
ya but they do almost nothing
sand umbra
immunity to direct lava damage + greatly reduced lava burn + 7 seconds of lava burn immune + Death heat protect is almost nothing?
I shiver at the concept of what you consider "something" then
digital saddle
Obsidian skin makes it so even after running out of lava immunity, you only take the periodic bonus damage from lethal lava
bitter drift
it doesn't exist
bitter drift
lava charm does it not obsidian skin
wheat cave
It does
sand umbra
it does exist
wheat cave
You are immune to lava for a few seconds with it. and it recharges same as lava charm
sand umbra
I will open up Katelyn's world right now and show you the Obsidian Skin tooltip with Lethal Lava Burn on
hollow shell
Obsidian Skin gives temporary immunity yeah
bitter drift
so is it just 1 second?
sand umbra
/yells intently
bitter drift
well it doesn't do the 2nd thing
wooden wedge
it does
digital saddle
bitter drift
it just doesn't lethal lava starts immediately and i didn't see any difference except the more damage from lethal lava and the heat resistance
wheat cave
Wait, whats the difference 2nd and 3rd effect
digital saddle
Are you in crags
wheat cave
oh, nwm
hollow shell
Thomas can you get an image/gif of it in action
vivid frigate
I think ion blaster should be nerfed
despite it's easy recipe I took down plantera and golem in about a minute with it
bitter drift
ok T R Y T O
vivid frigate
I am in expert mode tho
distant gyro
if you disable lethal lava, obsidian skin retuns to becoming ungodly op btw
bitter drift
ya but i'm not a little baby
terse sundial
ion blaster doesn't meme on things in rev iirc
distant gyro
and yea do tell what kinds of gear you have btw
terse sundial
^
bitter drift
me?
terse sundial
no, sero
distant gyro
if you have luiafk's unlimited mana or the likes expect ion blaster to be op
or unlimited astral injection, those also raises a lot of red flags
vivid frigate
just what any mage would have at this stage
foggy plover
ion blaster is pretty strong
digital saddle
Honestly I don't think there's much point to calamity nerfing hardmode lava immunity
vivid frigate
I regenerate mana like i'm spamming mana pots without actually using mana pots
digital saddle
Since there isn't a ton of reason to spend time in lava in the first place
terse sundial
surprised you're not using spectre or reaver armor
bitter drift
and golem
winged fiber
Damn, my suggestion really blew up
hollow shell
@bronze mauve Just remove this bit: "Saw the earlier biome mimic suggestion"
Suggestions should be able to stand on their own, considering they all get delivered independently
bronze mauve
k
hollow shell
Thanks
hollow shell
Aureus's, sure that could be changed or at least shortened
Regular enemy ones are fine though
imo
frail mantle
yea
bitter drift
honestly when i hear astral enemies getting hit i hear monkeys
frail mantle
i can see that one yea
hollow shell
perhaps
bitter drift
and that is amplified by 4 when i hear AA
hollow shell
AA does have kind of a gorilla roar
bitter drift
if this boss wasn't shitty enough ALREADY!
hollow shell
He's gonna take you back to the past-
bitter drift
he will throw poop at me, oh wait he already does this
if there was 1 summoner weapon (out of all of them) you would be able to buff what will it be?
hollow shell
what
bitter drift
if you could have buffed any summoner weapon but only one of them, which one would it be?
hollow shell
That's not how balancing works
bitter drift
ya i know but this is still a question
hollow shell
personally idk, haven't used any of the new weapons
bitter drift
for example i would buff that frog staff
aka the new post eye summoner weapon (yes there is a new sentry)
it fires blows up too slow so it usually misses
zealous ridge
bitter drift
but it 75% of the times misses on most bosses
those include BoC the perfs and EoC KS and QB
frail mantle
you need to summon it right next to enemies so it explodes on them