suggestions-discussion

[upbeat scroll]

And works WELL with this because of the Homing Shots.

[sand umbra]

why is it that Goblin Army has more shadowflame content than Hell, the presumable source of shadowflame

like this just occurred to me

[fervent citrus]

Wait....

Good question btw

[covert siren]

Because hell is too occupied with actual fire, You could say the hell was the scource of the shadowflame. But the goblin tribe mastered it and used it to their advantage

[sand umbra]

.

sure

let's go with that

[distant gyro]

why are you like this

[covert siren]

Me?

[distant gyro]

i was referring to ben/achilles/termi

[radiant meadow]

it is necessary to the relevance of this server

[distant gyro]

your own creation has led to this

[zenith hazel]

no this is not how the game is supposed to be played

[distant gyro]

it has massive power

[sand umbra]

mfw I do not possess the interloper

[frank stratus]

i dont either so i stole it

[covert siren]

When a suggestion for an emote is more relevant than a gamechanging addition...

[frank stratus]

lole

[distant gyro]

do it now

[radiant meadow]

you don't know the importance of the interloper

[covert siren]

There should be a downvote emote

[hollow shell]

Just to confirm

The consumable Caustic Tear cannot disable the rain?

[ashen warren]

correct

[vocal grotto]

^

It only starts it

[hollow shell]

Alright then

[fervent citrus]

Caustic tear is kinda useless when the rain keeps starting again and again in my rev pt

[covert siren]

Look at this shit

Plasma rod isnt good at all

The rest is hm

[frank stratus]

its a debuff weapon

[hollow shell]

Plasma Rod is aight

Pre-HM ichor

[ashen warren]

pre-boss ichor if you go out of your way enough tbh

[hollow shell]

True

(if you're lucky, too)

[radiant meadow]

isn't it like 1 second of ichor?

[hollow shell]

Nah, 2

[zenith hazel]

warblade is pretty good for early crowd control tbh

the vanilla items aren't too bad either

[frank stratus]

2 seconds true

[sleek wadi]

If it weren't for the summoner penalty, Plasma Rod would be really good for summoner

[frank stratus]

mp is irrelevant but it's especially good for mp because you can debuff bosses and other people do fat damage

[dry latch]

suggestion:

Make it so that the debuff icons also appear on top of the boss healthbar. This is to make it easier to check them during hectic battles.

[hollow shell]

I don't quite see the correlation between their position and what size they are

[dry latch]

okay, I should've worded that better

[hollow shell]

Is it because when it's above like currently, it's embedded into their sprite a bit and therefore harder to read?

(I haven't seen much footage of the new icons so I wouldn't know)

[dry latch]

but the small problem is obvious, while position is to fix the fact that everything moves so fast and there's projectiles flying everywhere

so keeping them near the healthbar would make it easier to keep track of them (I mean you can't even see them if the boss is not on the screen)

[hollow shell]

Oh you mean the boss health bar

Got it

Thought you meant the default Terraria one

[dry latch]

yep, I'm talking about the metal gear heathbar

[hollow shell]

Aight
I'd change the suggestion to make it so they also appear there

so there isn't inconsistency with enemies and bosses, and you can still use the convenience of having the icons on the thing you're aiming at

[civic pond]

Dimensional interloper.

[radiant meadow]

it's important

[dry latch]

there, edited it. @hollow shell . is that okay?

[hollow shell]

Yes, that looks good
You could also say "new" debuff icons, or some other clarification, so nobody thinks you mean the player's

Nice, good

[swift wadi]

@odd stirrup Uh, what?

[dry latch]

wrong channel @odd stirrup

[radiant meadow]

use this channel to discuss suggestions ye

[hollow shell]

^^^

Also@mental violet add a reason

[swift wadi]

Where is this mans, he posted that and then vanished

[hollow shell]

Nah he's here

He's just

... inattentive

I have no idea what the suggestion posting flow is for people

How you can post a suggestion and then immediately turn off your phone and throw it in a sewer

[mental violet]

Honestly I'd also like backwalls for gem caves, but that's for cosmetic reasons.

[hollow idol]

people nervous that their sug will be judged iirc

[odd stirrup]

Sorry,had to deal with an argument in a different discord

[hollow shell]

Ah cool you returned in the first 5 minutes

[swift wadi]

Falling from a plane Shoot, my Calamity suggestion! Gets on phone, posts sugg, splat

[hollow shell]

You're superior to 70% of the rest of humanity

How does it feel

[odd stirrup]

Lonely,to be honest

[hollow shell]

Damn, it really do be like that

[swift wadi]

Mood

[hollow shell]

Anyway yeah you discuss suggestions in this channel

[radiant meadow]

(delete the response in #suggestions-voting though)

[odd stirrup]

If your superior than 70%,then what about the 39%?

Also done

[hollow shell]

I'd be more concerned with the 9% of people who cloned themselves

[odd stirrup]

Accurate

[swift wadi]

god

[hollow shell]

Also thanks Earth

[radiant meadow]

never underestimate dimensional interlopers

[swift wadi]

Ben's really nailing this in

[radiant meadow]

more unsafe walls would be cool though

[odd stirrup]

And the debuff icons on the hp bars. God that would help

[mental violet]

No problem.

[odd stirrup]

Ok so gray exclamation points mean that it shouldnt be put up there right?

[wooden wedge]

no?

[swift wadi]

[radiant meadow]

check the pins sire

[wooden wedge]

if that were the case suggs wouldn't exist

[odd stirrup]

I did and idk why it just popped it up,unless if was asked a long time ago

[hollow shell]

again, pins

[wooden wedge]

check the pins

in #suggestions-voting

[hollow shell]

Here too

[odd stirrup]

Ohhhhh

oh. oh i freaked the hell out for nothing then

[wooden wedge]

ok

[odd stirrup]

that last bit didnt load properly

[mental violet]

Dude.

That's not the place for that.

[hollow shell]

Uhh

[dry latch]

wat

[swift wadi]

Good Lord

[mental violet]

The suggestions channel is if you have a new idea for CONTENT.

[hollow shell]

This is probably more fit for #bugs-read-pins

[mental violet]

Not for bug fixes.

[hollow shell]

Well that's only partially true Earth

but in this case yes, that's more of a bug

[mental violet]

Well new idea or changing of things already here.

[swift wadi]

The thing is, there's no suggestion

He's just... Stating something

[mental violet]

@odd stirrup

[hollow shell]

Try doing it with only Calamity enabled, not Thorium or any other mods
and see if it still persists

If it does, report in the bugs channel

[odd stirrup]

I tried that already and still had a bit of lag,since skeletron was still purple during the bossfight

[mental violet]

It could just be your PC running something else in the background.

Also please remove your post in suggestions.

[hollow shell]

Or just bad PC in general

myeah s'not a suggestion

Unless you can pinpoint the cause of the lag...

in which case yeah I guess you could post a sugg about it?

Like if Skeletron is maybe spawning excessive dust or has some inefficient code looping somewhere or whatever

[odd stirrup]

Since I run MacOS(yes you can mock me)I think it was because of the system couldnt taking the mod properly,even with all of the lag I was able to beat it eventually

Again,i use mac and we all know how terrible they are with coding and stuff

[hollow shell]

I see

[odd stirrup]

Hopefully this doesnt continue as a problem with WoF and hardmode,ect.

[ashen warren]

Hopefully I convey a better point this time

[hollow shell]

The lil sentence about you being stupid before and wanting to try again
isn't necessary

[civic pond]

BR betsy hm

[hollow shell]

Could just go "Add Betsy to Boss Rush

Reasoning"

And yeah I feel like she'd fit

[ashen warren]

aight its gone

[hollow shell]

Thank you

[sand umbra]

honestly yeah

Betsy needs some love

she's kicked to the curb of an event nobody likes doing without being summoner (and her leggie is a mage wep!)

[hollow shell]

(imo We could even do something like the Arena out of Kirby Super Star and have lil miniboss dedicated sections
Like a bit where you fight Everscream, Santank, and Ice Queen at the same time, and another with Mourning Wood with Pumpking of course

Not sure if any other event minibosses/bosses would fit though)

[sand umbra]

and while she's a fine and dandy fight on her own, she just gets out of hand when combo'd with the hectic nature of OOA T3

[ashen warren]

Oh thatd be really cool

Those Miniboss sections were always cool

[sleek wadi]

While we're at it, Betsy needs some way of summoning her outside of OOA

Something like "Dragon Summoning Ritual", non-consumable and drops upon first Betsy kill

[swift wadi]

@sand umbra at least she drops the Deus devourer

[hollow shell]

We could do something like fighting multiple unrelated minibosses at the same time
Dutchman, Saucer, Mothron, and maybe Goblin Summoner and Sand Elemental, with some further separation

to jack em up to the difficulty of a main boss fight

I'm just kinda thinking aloud here tho

[swift wadi]

Great Sand Shark love?

[sleek wadi]

Saucer should probably be on its own, or maybe it gets a small selection of specific lunar enemies to accompany it.

[hollow shell]

ah yeah GSS too

[sand umbra]

inb4 GSS gets a promotion to boss

[hollow shell]

Giant Clam too

[sand umbra]

no

[hollow shell]

Maybe all the Abyss ones at the same time

got some possiblities

[sand umbra]

every Abyss miniboss at once

[swift wadi]

Thinking about it... Why did Rover only mention vanilla enemies

[hollow shell]

Cuz we were on the topic of Betsy

[sand umbra]

but they actually attack in sync and have unique things during BR

[hollow shell]

twas on my mind

[swift wadi]

True, fair enough

[sleek wadi]

GSS could probably get promoted. All it needs is a new theme and something to unlock and it'd be gucci

[hollow shell]

naaaaah

[sand umbra]

yeeeeees

[hollow shell]

It's fine as it is

[sturdy geyser]

It is better as a miniboss imo

[sand umbra]

I mean

GSS has a surprisingly complex attack pattern for a miniboss, a unique material drop and a full set of items that can be made from that drop

it has a special summon method and a summoning item (this is especially important!)

[sleek wadi]

It is probably fine as is, and I'd move it to like post-ML if it did get promoted as Plant-Golem is getting pretty cramped.

[hollow shell]

Giant Clam too tho

[sand umbra]

the only thing missing is something to unlock and a kickass theme from someone
also some direct weapon drops maybe

[hollow shell]

Well

Clam don't got a summoning item

but neither does The Siren

[sand umbra]

you exist at the Ocean and the Siren Lure says hi because you existed and oops now you're in a fight

there's a reason the Ocean lore gives Siren Lure "immune" now

[sleek wadi]

Yo can we get something from GSS to stop GSS from spawning, fucker gets in the way of Sand Elemental farming all the time.

[sand umbra]

the point is, GSS has what no other miniboss in Calamity (as far as I can remember) has: a special, specific summon method and a specialized summon item

I'unno, maybe that's just something I'm too ambitious over

wouldn't be the first time

[hollow shell]

He just kinda

doesn't really need to be a boss

[sand umbra]

I suppose

[hollow shell]

He's pretty comfortable as he is

[sand umbra]

I just...wish a bit more was done with him, I guess? if that makes sense

[sleek wadi]

I'm cool with him being a mini-boss though having a way to stop him from spawning would be great. You used to be able to corrupt your desert but now those sandsharks count towards him spawning so

[sand umbra]

although that really applies to a lot of things by now and on the subject of minibosses Mollusk Husks need more uses aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

[sleek wadi]

GSS biome variants when

[hollow shell]

wew I didn't realize Mollusk Husks sucked that much
It's good that they have a focus tho

[sand umbra]

they are solely used for Mollusk armor yes

[hollow shell]

They could be used for a potion or something

give em a renewable purpose

[sand umbra]

everything else related to Giant Clams is a direct drop

[sleek wadi]

Maybe some way to craft Giant Clam's other drops? Don't know how to properly lock that behind Giant Clam though

IIRC Mollusk Shells drop from all clams, not just big boy over here

[sand umbra]

(also I just realized: Giant Clams are the only other miniboss to possess a map icon, which alone puts Giant Clam in a comfortable #2 position for "miniboss most likely to receive a promotion")

[hollow shell]

Well that was so they could be listed as official minibosses on the Boss Checklist

[sand umbra]

still a cool thing

honestly if I had any ideas for them whatsoever and there were a way to make it not contrast heavily with the Sunken Sea's entire thematic

I could probably get behind the idea of Giant Clam becoming a boss

[hollow shell]

Hard to make a peaceful miniboss

[sand umbra]

yeah

[crude geode]

Sorry to butt in here, but possibly a Dried Clam similar to Aquatic/Desert Scourge? Idk tho

[hollow shell]

Could be

[swift wadi]

Why is there no Sunken Sea boss

[hollow shell]

ya got yer clam

[sturdy geyser]

because Sunken Sea is calm

[crude geode]

Also cuz of the lack of space you would have to fight said boss unless you specifically have said space carved out

[tepid root]

uhh you can just buy the ravager summon from witch doctor lol

or someone else idk

[hollow shell]

Starcore isn't a great comparison

because the other way to summon Astrum Deus is by killing enemies

which isn't the same for Ravager

[carmine island]

And doesnt the Atlas method only work until first kill?

[hollow shell]

The big IQ play would be adding another recipe for Ancient Medallion which costs a small amount of Life Alloys and CoCs

[carmine island]

Or just rebuilding the ravager from scratch

[sand umbra]

Why is there no Sunken Sea boss

so like, the main thing with a Sunken Sea boss is that it would almost inevitably go against the Sunken Sea's entire thematic
the whole thing with the Sunken Sea is that it is a peaceful place where everything can get along and not instantly aggro on you like old Sea Serpents yeah I remember you you fuckin' worm bastards
if there were a way to make a boss that somehow doesn't go against the Sunken Sea's theming? I'd be down, but the way things are right now I just don't see it happening

sorry I'm late but I really wanted to follow up on this

[swift wadi]

Life infused Ancient Medallion

[tepid root]

aquatic scourge fight in sunken sea

[sand umbra]

not everywhere needs a boss, believe it or not
I'd actually prefer if Sunken Sea, true to its thematic, was given more content unlocked in more peaceful manners

[swift wadi]

What if the boss was something evil that lurked in the Sunken Sea, an apex predator of sorts, and hunting it down would actually be a blessing to the Sunken Sea. It would need some lore but, it could work

[sand umbra]

fishing, catching critters, just interacting with the wildlife in ways that don't necessarily have anything to do with fighting

[vocal grotto]

Well, I don't see much of a point of a boss in the sunken sea. The giant clam might be alright, but a full-blown boss sounds very in a biome like that

Notably because of how it's generated

[carmine island]

I'm just imagining going from the peaceful music to some intense boss theme. Yikes.

[crude geode]

Tbh, there's already a decent amount of fishing stuff from the sunken sea, but imo the critters idea sounds intriguing

[swift wadi]

True, I'm not saying there should be, I'm just saying it would be cool if there was

[tepid root]

the best item in the sunken sea is gotten by catching a critter anyways

:bab:

[sand umbra]

[soft fern]

imagine that lmao, Sunken Sea theme to Blood Coagulant in an instant

[sand umbra]

the objectively best Sunken Sea item is, in fact, obtained by catching a critter

fishing in the Sunken Sea in HM can give you a hook

[carmine island]

No fade in or out, just :D to AHHHHHHHH

[soft fern]

^^

[queen sail]

I’m looking at that old duke cheap shot

Seems bs if you ask me

[subtle oracle]

Am i allowed to suggest Emotes?

[hollow shell]

Yes

But like all suggs you need a good reason

[subtle oracle]

Can i suggest an old emote that got removed in the past?

Or is that a nono

[hollow shell]

I guess you could, yeah

What is it

[subtle oracle]

This

[gusty geode]

Yes

[tired haven]

Now I wonder what reasoning you got for that

[subtle oracle]

I'll think of reason, and it'll be a good one

[sand umbra]

[ashen warren]

so about enemy sugg

[dusty stirrup]

Kinda funny you want to suggest an emote of that youtuber in particular

[subtle oracle]

This server used to have emotes Connected to YouTubers other than the one im suggesting?

[dusty stirrup]

1. Just because it used to have those doesn't mean we want to have them now
2. This youtuber in particular seems to have gained some disdain for calamity, the server in particular

[tired haven]

Yes, there was gungnir at least
All of the emotes went missing at one day for a quite possible reason

[subtle oracle]

Yeah, they all vanished for some reason...

[dusty stirrup]

(Also the gungnir emote was mocking him)

Literally a cheese emote

[tired haven]

(indeed)

[dusty stirrup]

[hollow shell]

Expert DoG..
Tries to dodge you..?

[dusty stirrup]

Never heard of that one before

[hollow shell]

That does sound very odd

[subtle oracle]

1. Just because it used to have those doesn't mean we want to have them now
2. This youtuber in particular seems to have gained some disdain for calamity, the server in particular
   Number 2 i did not know about, he always mentions how Calamity is one of his favorites...

[dusty stirrup]

Well it does give him more views

[tired haven]

Probably from the fact how bizarre dog ai is
I mean, in deathmode he misses leaps most of the time too

[subtle oracle]

I see... Well that idea is scrapped

[tired haven]

Also yeah, not gonna bite the hand diss something that is your lead content at the moment

[subtle oracle]

His emote won't be returning any time soon...

[dusty stirrup]

Rasp's gonna post a gigantic wall

jesus

[subtle oracle]

What confused me was that it just disappeared off the face of the server one day, but i never knew the reason why...

[dusty stirrup]

Just read his lastest messages

[ashen warren]

smh its not that big yet

[dusty stirrup]

He left because he was unhappy about the facts moderators didn't want him to keep posting his barely calamity related vids in #youtube-videos

[subtle oracle]

Just don't accidentaly hit ctl + C

[tired haven]

(it is pretty hard to find them as "from:" doesn't work on left members)

(unless you have id iirc)

[quiet abyss]

(Are we talking about gameraiders?)

[dusty stirrup]

tbh not much really happened anyway it was just really weird

yes

[quiet abyss]

Ah

[subtle oracle]

His videos were not always calamity related, he plays with multiple content related mods... Yeah that is a pretty Senseless reason to leave.

[swift wadi]

Yeah it wasn't much iirc it was just like "hey you should only post things where calamity is the main focus" and he was like "lol yeet"

[subtle oracle]

I can't even look him up on the search bar... I guess he left so that's impossible

Well thanks for the insight guys.

[swift wadi]

Time to talk about suggs iirc

[indigo fog]

Boss death animations are under frequently suggested

not sure about spawning animations though

[dusty stirrup]

Honestly only one I think could really use a death animation is Yharon

The rest is just optional ig

[subtle oracle]

Maybe Yharon can have a Death animation similar to that off the Ender Dragoon from MC?

I dunno just throwing around ideas

[ashen warren]

lol what

[hollow shell]

@vernal ledge That's a Don't. Frequently suggested thing.

[ashen warren]

i think the top candidates for a new enemy are:
- brimstone crag: no new content beyond post-plant, given its like,,, the calamity biome it should have more stuff relating to calamitas/the lore because not only is it a little bland from a gameplay perspective late game it also doesnt make sense that nothing changes from a lore perspective.

• astral infection: should have post-ml enemies, big alien guy dead so it would make sense that the astral infection might be impacted.
• corruption/crimson: these lack significant calamity enemies (aside from bosses) for like, the whole game, and i think having post-ml, post-providence, or even hardmode enemy additions to each of these would be interesting to motivate players to either explore them more for new things or clean them faster to prevent it from being harder.
• space: for a biome that stretches across a vast portion of the world and becomes more easily accessible further into the game, the lack of threats later in the game makes in really dull and somewhat of a safespace for players to flee to

ill rank all of them more later, or perhaps add ideas to it

but im gonna go to bed and got this down, if anyone has any ideas relating to it ping me

[hollow shell]

Gnight rasp

[hybrid fjord]

Betsy is definitely worthy of being in boss rush

she even has a legendary drop

[queen sail]

Betsy is a boss but

Honestly

It feels weird

[hollow shell]

I do think it'd be a bit weird

because Betsy was designed with your main goal being protecting the Eternia Crystal

[queen sail]

Betsy is a boss with a treasure bag yet comes from an event

[hollow shell]

There could be AI adjustments but the original intention was indeed
close to the ground, act primarily as support

But she should still be in the Boss Rush for completion's sake

[queen sail]

But I mean, Rover

...did we give anything to OOA besides one legendary

[hollow shell]

I suppose not

I don't think Calamity's additions to the event really matter for Betsy's status as a boss

[queen delta]

OOA is pretty filled with content

[queen sail]

I mean yeah, but

Terminus sets all the bosses to their death ai

Don’t think Betsy’s got anything in that regard

[tired haven]

i still won't mind some rogue drops from ooa ngl

[queen sail]

Ogre Snot bombs

[tired haven]

There doesn't even have to be accessory and 2 armors because monk/shinobi kinda resemble that and would be weird to have a duplicate

[queen sail]

Pitiful damage for its tier but wide aoe that inflicts a slowness debuff

[tired haven]

inb4 someone suggests transforming those armors to rogue and i screech

[queen sail]

@rocky saffron low priority if i were to be honest

[rocky saffron]

ik ik

but something i would like to see

[swift wadi]

@hybrid osprey You should at least elaborate, what exactly needs fixing?

[distant gyro]

more or less if it's a bug then it shouldn't be put here in the first place

[sleek wadi]

Not sure if it's broken in any way, but it should definitely get some ammo conservation. One successful Providence fight burned through 3.6k Holy Fire bullets even with Ammo Box and Ammo potion

[distant gyro]

you're using holy fire bullets

[hollow shell]

That sounds like a bug, Deacline

Report in #bugs-read-pins

not suggs

[distant gyro]

it's supposed to be strong but costly

note that it's exceptionally weak with a musket pouch

[hybrid osprey]

@rover ok, I never really used the channels specifically for anything I encountered in tell now so Ill do that next time

[hollow shell]

Aighty

[hybrid osprey]

When I use the summon it just down right despawns regardless if there are bullets in my inventory

[sleek wadi]

Burning through nearly 4 stacks for one attempt is a little extreme for a cost, not sure how well Elemental Axes do in comparison but from what I could tell compared to say a mage playthrough Holy Fire doesn't seem to be particularly exceptional to justify the cost.

[hybrid osprey]

Do the bullets have to just be in the inventory/ammo slot or the hotbar?

[sleek wadi]

They can be in inventory and ammo

[hybrid osprey]

At least I know im doing it right, but it seems to just downright despawns when attempting to use/attack with the selected bullets

[sleek wadi]

While I've had issues with them not following me through teleports, despawning during combat is not an issue I ran into.

[hybrid osprey]

That's pretty unusual

[quiet escarp]

I also ran into the despawning issue but I play multiplayer so that might be the issue

[hollow shell]

I guess Deacline is just never going to report the bug

There ya go

[fervent citrus]

[hybrid osprey]

Had to make sure I had proof on whats occuring

[hollow shell]

Ye video proof is good

You also ought to send your client log too

(instructions in bug channel pins)

[hybrid osprey]

Can't seem to find the instructions

[hollow shell]

Go to Documents/My Games/Terraria/ModLoader/Logs/client.log
and plop that file into the bugs channel

(Or wherever you else you may have your Terraria files. Default is Documents/My Games)

[hybrid osprey]

The log should be inserted in, hopefully it should be ok in regards to finding the issue

[hollow shell]

Yeye. Thank you.

[indigo fog]

If something like this exists it should be a toggle

So you can still get something like Aether's Whisper as a ranger

[tired haven]

I don't think that should ever be a thing even as a massive QoL
Makes playthrough way too straightforward

Also destroys mod compat even if there wasn't any in first place

[gray nebula]

and that would be very annoying to code

[ashen warren]

just make all the items that arent that class unobtainable

[subtle oracle]

Why would that be in the starter bag?? Also it doesn't take alot of time in order to get your desired wep to drop

Maybe 1-5 kills

[hollow idol]

Flashbacks to when the only post DoG summoner weapon was mechworm which wasnt a guaranteed drop

[tepid root]

[gray nebula]

but it was mechworm

[hollow idol]

I too enjoyed refighting DoG with the same weapon as before him

[subtle oracle]

Back then when summoner didn't matter

[pulsar jay]

the thing about mechworm is that atleast it kinda works

it can beat yharon and is able to damage scal

[hollow shell]

The thing about Mechworm is that is shouldn't be your only option

That's why we added birbs and dargos

and Gradius

[pulsar jay]

i hate that you like,

can't suggest things about true melee

they gave it an entire mechanic and multiple accessories and an entire lore item to themselves

but

it's just a subclass..?

i'd consider it it's own thing at this point

[hollow shell]

Well you can
As long as the reason isn't to make true melee only runs more possible

[pulsar jay]

what's with rage then

you'd think they'd care

giving them their own game mechanic

who is really building rage by legitimate means without heart of darkness

only true melee

[subtle oracle]

This is what I would like to see, give all True Melee weps a weaker version of Gael's Rage regen mechanic

[pulsar jay]

true melee is the only one who can afford taking hits

[subtle oracle]

But that might be difficult to implement...

[pulsar jay]

and only true melee can strike with true melee

multiple items are dedicated exclusively to thm

they have their own wiki page to themselves and everything

why'd they just drop the entire thing at DoG?

[subtle oracle]

Because projectile Melee weps are better i guess

[hollow shell]

I am also a tad confused
Because the devs do support true melee considering all they add specifically for it

But the "post-DoG true melee" suggestion got rejected

[pulsar jay]

exactly

what the fuck are they trying to do with it?

[hollow shell]

I'm wondering if there was some kind of misunderstanding

[pulsar jay]

it's baffling and hilarious at the same time

something is wrong

[subtle oracle]

It remains a mystery for now... A incomplete sub class

[hollow shell]

All subclasses are incomplete

because they don't need to be complete

[pulsar jay]

i always thought it was because calamity actually knew what design ways

also

[subtle oracle]

Like sentries?

[pulsar jay]

broadswords are complete

[hollow shell]

Fair

But the latter still stands

[pulsar jay]

anyway i was praising calamity for true melee support

[subtle oracle]

And short swords are about complete as well

[ashen warren]

broadsword is not a subclass

[subtle oracle]

With exo Gladius and all that

[pulsar jay]

i thought they may have noticed that maybe, just maybe melee is poorly design and just a weird stockpile of other classes

[ashen warren]

its a weapon category

[hollow shell]

That's what a subclass kinda is

[ashen warren]

jl.j;lkj

[pulsar jay]

and as a result, made the real melee viable

no they fuckin

dropped it off at DoG and then gave us a bunch of beamswords

[subtle oracle]

Some melee weapons are literally magic weapons, like that one Signus drop

[pulsar jay]

or terra blade

[subtle oracle]

Mirror blade i think

[pulsar jay]

or fuckin

[hollow shell]

CV drop

[pulsar jay]

both exo swords

[subtle oracle]

Oops

[pulsar jay]

what is exo gladius

[frail mantle]

[pulsar jay]

what am i looking at

you just

[frail mantle]

exo gladius is the exo shiv

[pulsar jay]

made a magic weapon a shortsword

[hollow shell]

Alright I don't think we'll get very far with just ranting

[pulsar jay]

even the melee weapons that aren't true melee reward you for getting close

take boomers for example

you throw them

they hit from afar,

[hollow shell]

Try and tie this into an actual suggestion

[pulsar jay]

but the closer you are the faster they come back and deal more damage

i was originally going to make a suggestion about making CD not a legendary

[subtle oracle]

Suggest it Habari, if you think there is something wrong

Then try to make a change

[pulsar jay]

then looked at the uh, thingy and it said no

[cloud surge]

What's CD?

[hollow shell]

You could do it for the same reason that Mandrill did it

Unfucking DoG's lore item

[pulsar jay]

cosmic dick charge

[hollow shell]

It doesn't need to be for a true melee only run

[subtle oracle]

Discharge

[pulsar jay]

did his suggestion hit the amount of stars?

[hollow shell]

Yes

But he didn't sugg what you're planning to sugg

[subtle oracle]

Oooh

[pulsar jay]

i want to make Cd not a legendaryr because he has 2 rare guns you could do something with

[subtle oracle]

How did the devs reply to it in the development server?

[hollow shell]

It was rejected

[pulsar jay]

i don't think norfleet is an rv of anything

[subtle oracle]

I see...

[tired haven]

That's enough ranting for now
You should gather the productive thoughts into a suggestion or stop winding up the duststorm

[pulsar jay]

in a bottle

[tired haven]

(i wish)

[hollow shell]

All RIVs are based on other items

[cloud surge]

Doesn't yharon have like 3 rare varients

[hollow shell]

Norfleet is Starmada

[pulsar jay]

oh

[zenith hazel]

1 RIV and yermes, which is neither a leg or RIV

[pulsar jay]

yer-

what

[subtle oracle]

Norfleet is a Bl2 wep

[tired haven]

DoG has 2: skullmasher and norfleet

[subtle oracle]

Both can be their own Legendaries tbh

[pulsar jay]

what the fuck is a yermes

it's everywhere everyone is saying it

[tired haven]

Yharim's Crystal

[subtle oracle]

Yharim cry

[cloud surge]

Let's encourage scal grinding with a RIV or legendary

[subtle oracle]

Fuck I'm too slow

[pulsar jay]

no

[hollow shell]

I mean each SCal weapon is individually around 5%

If you couldn't craft em each one would be rare, in a weird way

[subtle oracle]

Man imagine farming scal for a specific drop of hers like Soma prime

[pulsar jay]

she drops like 20 things and you can only get 1

non craftable scal drops would make anyone want to die

[zenith hazel]

the thing is that you don't have to play true melee to farm CD

[pulsar jay]

.

[zenith hazel]

you can just be a regular melee player and you can still go for CD because it's a great wep

[pulsar jay]

._.

[gray nebula]

weird suggestion

[pulsar jay]

should've just stayed muted

really embarassing moment

[hollow shell]

what happened?

[gray nebula]

CD isnt even dog themed, so we would need to redo its sprite eventhough its already fine

and i don't think we need a post dog true melee weapon, because the lore already acts as an upgrade

• CD will no longer be considered true melee in the next update

[hollow shell]

m

[pulsar jay]

the lore lowers your dr and makes you take 1.1x more damage

[gray nebula]

but it's an upgrade nonetheless

[tired haven]

Mmm, it's not exactly correct tbh
Like, if RTN exists, should the rest of abyss content cease as it's adding too much?

The thing is a major upgrade by itself

[gray nebula]

nah I'm just saying that dog lore is already kinda an upgrade for true melee

no need to downgrade CD just to cater to true melee only playthroughs

[tired haven]

Yeah, but it's not accompanied by anything else. Lore alone won't make a new tier

[gray nebula]

but it's a subclass

[pulsar jay]

true melee has it's own game mechanic though

rage is true melee's mechanic and the only reason other classes really bother with it is because of heart of darkness

[gray nebula]

and I've always seen the extra boosts to true melee as rewards for the riskier playstyle

[tired haven]

(i mean, it sure is subclass, and either true melee is left alone or transcends past subclass, tbh)

[gray nebula]

people already complaining about rogue being thrower 2,imagine if true melee becomes a separate class

[pulsar jay]

rogue...

[tired haven]

Ranger 3 be like

[pulsar jay]

rogue is thrower

[gray nebula]

thrower but not getting merged into ranger

[pulsar jay]

yeah that's about it

[gray nebula]

thrower but cool

[crude geode]

^

[subtle oracle]

What would true melee be called tho?? True melee sounds a bit lame

[gray nebula]

also if we had to add a new class, I'd prefer it being original

[crude geode]

Agreed. Having true melee exist would be like having rogue exist alongside throwing.

[gray nebula]

unless we add some really unique stuff to true melee

[pulsar jay]

no

[gray nebula]

[pulsar jay]

true melee existing would be more like having melee exist alongside two mages

[hollow idol]

fungal symbiote

[tired haven]

So far it looks like true melee is a dead concept, solely because of how terraria handles bosses and damage

[hollow shell]

what

[tired haven]

Either it is too high risk/reward (claws) or just pointlessly flies around

[gray nebula]

make true melee weapons gigantic then

[tired haven]

Then it's no difference from mage close-ranged books

[tepid root]

every sword is 150% bigger now

[pulsar jay]

what

what?

you know it's true

[gray nebula]

you don't need projectiles if your sword already covers the whole screen

[pulsar jay]

melee becomes a mage copy post plantera. Fuckin beamswords

[hollow shell]

Wasn't whatting to you

[pulsar jay]

o

what what then

[hollow shell]

in the butt

Sorry

[tired haven]

So far it looks like true melee is a dead concept, solely because of how terraria handles bosses and damage
i suppose

[pulsar jay]

true melee has worked though

[gray nebula]

melee turning into beamsword party isnt calamity's fault sir ✋ 🤚

[hollow shell]

Yeah 'dead concept' was strange to me considering all of the support we add for it

[pulsar jay]

i mean they didn't have to continue the trend

they could've just used more flails

or on hit effects

[gray nebula]

its hard to make it work well with other bosses tho

[tired haven]

I'm not talking about the calamity content in particular, just the class as whole

[zenith hazel]

that'd require reworking bosses entirely to cater for true melee

that'd lead to imbalance between other classes outside of melee

[gray nebula]

good luck hitting that fiery flying fuck

[pulsar jay]

if spark did it you can too

[tired haven]

Every boss deals pretty serious contact damage; a lot of them keep distance from swords
True melee ends up either overtuned to melt those to hell or is pointless

[subtle oracle]

True melee vs Provi is where the run usually ends

[hollow shell]

The fight itself?

Seems strange, considering she doesn't deal contact damage

[tired haven]

Trying to reasonably reach her to deal damage is the catch there

[pulsar jay]

krastyan will say something that makes you facepalm every once in a while like all human beings

anyway

as far as reaching her

let her come to you

she doesn't run away she just floats back and fourth

[hollow shell]

Well she's always above

[pulsar jay]

grand dad might be long enough for her

[hollow shell]

Might be

prolly is

[pulsar jay]

oh my god that sounds horrible out of context

[hollow shell]

wow

[gray nebula]

fleent stones

[pulsar jay]

even as true melee, ml is always suddenly pathetic after the first kill

[subtle oracle]

Why face palm? Provi is a run ending fight...

How the hell do you reach the boss with the Attacker chicken balls?

GRAND DAD

[pulsar jay]

she doesn't deal contact damage

as far as chicken balls

you killed them before

you can do it again

they're nerfed in the provi fight

just gotta be skilled

[hollow shell]

Anyway this convo better wrap up somehow soon

[tired haven]

Tbh, my approach for that would have been to make rage specific boosts for each class (or to move and re-purpose it solely for true melee), but it's so huge of rework in both cases that I can't see it being any feasible to implement

[gray nebula]

rage boosts granted by damageable minions

[hollow shell]

Gain rage when your friend die

make you very angery

[gray nebula]

you killed my summons,, prepare to die

[tepid root]

damageable minions

[gray nebula]

imagine making damageable minions with redcode

[hollow shell]

Haha

[swift wadi]

@oblique turtle Please fuse your messages together so that there is only 1 of them.

[oblique turtle]

ok wait

there it is

[gray nebula]

incredible reasoning iirc

[oblique turtle]

what is iirc?

[swift wadi]

I dont know what advice I could give lol

[oblique turtle]

: O

[hollow idol]

the sug got approved in the past for reference

[ashen warren]

but why would u do that

it basically blocks ur whole screen

[dry grotto]

the thing i'd like to see changing is the ratio u get rage for when using true melee

since atm i think u can only get like a max of 10 per true melee hit

as someone that's played a full true melee run, i can also safely say that there needs to be more viable options for true melee

since atm there's way too many bosses where true melee simply isn't viable, with doggo being the most notable evildoer

this can be fixed by buffing some of the true melee weapons tho

like, the devil's sunrise for example was the only weapon i could actually use vs doggo, and even then it was still insanely weak due to the short range and the way the projectile of the weapon works

[karmic stone]

@oblique turtle Chaining suggestions is a don't, you should either turn that into a suggestion that's standing on it's own or delete it

[oblique turtle]

what?

it is just the addition to backgrounds

thing

*a, not the

[frail mantle]

your suggestion should be able to stand on its own without any others

[karmic stone]

Yea, it's just that

[oblique turtle]

Yesn't

[karmic stone]

So explain just that in your suggestion

[frail mantle]

rather than just suggesting "and Calamity logo", suggest "add a config that can switch the normal logo with the Calamity logo" or get Alucarian to mention the Clam logo as well in his suggestion

[oblique turtle]

yes yes shash up i knoooow

now is it goooood?

[frail mantle]

better

though you should also explain why you want this change in the suggestion (and not just with reasoning along the lines of simply "it'd be cool")

what

[oblique turtle]

also the reason is quite simple

everything or nothing

if there is already music in the title and there is a proposition for alternate background, why not make a alternate logo?

and you know

its the climate

[dry latch]

Suggestion:

Add a way to manually summon the Martian Invasion. Reason being consistency when compared to the other invasion events, plus to help people who are trying to farm the martian saucer. Maybe add a summoning item that can be made using the martian conduit plating and some other post golem item (like the life alloy)?

[left crest]

You'd want to include "and some other post golem item" since martian conduit plating is preboss iirc

[dry latch]

wait really? where?

thought only martians dropped those

[karmic stone]

martian conduit plating is preboss iirc
Martian Conduit Plating is dropped by Martian Invasion enemies yes

[toxic kettle]

are Shockstorm Shuttles hardmode?

oh those only drop plating after Golem

[dry latch]

so do I remove the post golem part?

seems redundant now

plus can't really think of a material that matches

[ashen warren]

Yes, Shuttles now drop Plating post Golem

[left crest]

oh epic

because thorium I guess

[tired haven]

Yep

[sand umbra]

yeah, the drop from Shockstorm Shuttles got locked to post-Golem

due to the existence of Thorium's Conduit armor

[dry grotto]

lol

[unkempt bolt]

thanks thorium

[sand umbra]

I feel like this already got suggested recently

[toxic kettle]

P1 and P2 have different patterns already wdym

pretty sure it was

thinking back, although the old infernadoes were a real pain in the ass, I kinda miss them

[civic pond]

it looks familiar

[dry grotto]

let's not make yharon p2 harder

thank you

he's already the hardest boss in the game

[gray nebula]

[zenith hazel]

@ashen warren why?

[toxic kettle]

there's a creeper outfit?

[gray nebula]

yeah

obtained from halloween bags

[tired haven]

Giving a function to one of lots vanities from goodie bags, for the sole reason of reference

[hallow kraken]

Lol scaling item sug

[tired haven]

Yeah no, that's gotta be removed

[zenith hazel]

yeah I’m just gonna shoot it down

[ashen warren]

and it's not even one of cal's items either

[tired haven]

calamity goodie bag vanities when

[gray nebula]

wtf calamity devs hate minecraft

I hate calamity now

[strong jacinth]

wh

[unkempt bolt]

can't count how many times i've seen a "make yharon p2 harder" sugg tbh

[meager orbit]

lmao that was me

[hollow shell]

@oblique turtle Add reasons for both of your suggestions, please.

And @violet sierra Add a reason to your suggestion

[ashen warren]

first time hearing anyone say p2 is any similar to p1

[hollow shell]

@meager orbit You reposted that too soon

You must wait at least a week

[meager orbit]

h k

[gray nebula]

aestheticus doesnt even scale

[toxic kettle]

Aestheticus doesn't scale does it

[gray nebula]

it doesnt scale because scaling weapons arent allowed

[unkempt bolt]

lol

[ashen warren]

oh i didn't even realize that

[hollow shell]

Aestheticus doesn't scale afaik?

[ashen warren]

it used to i guess

[gray nebula]

it doesnt scale ineed

it never did

[ashen warren]

is it the wording on the tooltip/wiki that was misleading?

no it never did yeah

[hollow shell]

I don't think it ever scaled

Oh

I assume lew.is just read the tooltip very quickly

"This weapon scales with all your damage stats at once"

[gray nebula]

br

[hollow shell]

That means it's boosted by melee, ranged, magic, etc all at once

[tired haven]

Well, that's indeed technically scaling over time, but not actual scaling

[dry grotto]

"scaling weapons aren't allowed"

zooms into halibut

[terse sundial]

halibut cannon is an easter egg weapon

[tired haven]

You forgot "suggestions"

[hollow shell]

Well Halibut wasn't suggested or donated

[terse sundial]

it's not serious

[dry grotto]

i'm just saying ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[ashen warren]

oh i cant believe i didn't even realize that

[hollow shell]

ok

[tired haven]

"Dev weps aren't allowed anymore, guys"

[hollow shell]

indeed

Suggestion rules are not dev rules

[ashen warren]

@tired haven good job on the most recent stream

[hollow shell]

And as per usual:
@cedar jacinth Are you okay with this suggestion, cuz it pertains to your donor item?

[cedar jacinth]

Hell yes

[hollow shell]

(I assume you're the same DevAesthetic that donated for Aestheticus)

aight cool

[cedar jacinth]

Devious Aestheticus would be a cool name tbh

[oblique turtle]

@oblique turtle Add reasons for both of your suggestions, please.
@hollow shell its for those people.

no but seriously, jokes step aside,

many other items have their look, and it's shown on vanity, so why this single item can't have it?

[hollow shell]

I guess.
Minion summoning accessories don't usually have social slot vanity versions of the minions

In fact the only one you could argue has a vanity version is Profaned Soul Crystal, but (afaik) that's not a visibility or vanity slot thing, that's a condition

[oblique turtle]

ummm... yes.

I MEAN nonononono what did you say?!

(yes this is a joke)

[frail mantle]

PSC is the only Clam one

in vanilla you also have the werewolf and merfolk accessories

[hollow shell]

(You're not great at making jokes)

For instance

Fungal Clump does not have a vanity minion when you have it in a social slot

nor Mutated Truffle or Profaned Soul Artifact

[oblique turtle]

so add to all of them :))))

[frail mantle]

why

[hollow shell]

Okay
You'll have to reword your suggestion for that

And, yes, add a reason

[oblique turtle]

there it is

oh wait a reason

[hollow shell]

mhm

Also it literally doesn't work for any of them right now so

[ashen warren]

psc doesn't have vanity minions in social slots either, only pre-scal in a functional slot

[oblique turtle]

It looks weird, sorry but it has to be like that, i can't just normally press enter to type something in a new tab : /

[hollow shell]

Shift + Enter?

[oblique turtle]

ouch

[hollow shell]

boop
boop

Alright cool, thank you

Now for your other suggestion

[oblique turtle]

uwu

[hollow shell]

Needs a reason

[oblique turtle]

also the reason is quite simple

its up there

[hollow shell]

You need it in your suggestion

[dry grotto]

is it me or does the orthocera shell not drop?

[wooden wedge]

wrong chat?

[oblique turtle]

(i need discord nitro for the ech cat from t. overhaul now ahhhh)

[dry grotto]

ohh ye

[hollow shell]

We've got an ech cat:

[oblique turtle]

BUT there is not :supremeechcatprime:

*there is no

[frail mantle]

correct

[gray nebula]

why would we need one tho

wow

great reasoning iirc

[wooden wedge]

@ashen warren you need a reason

[hollow shell]

Also what do you mean they don't move around?

(Also Pant what does "climate" mean in this context?)

[gray nebula]

I think it might be a weird translation of "atmosphere" ig

[hollow shell]

Probably meant that, yeah

If so, would be good to change to that

[oblique turtle]

(Also Pant what does "climate" mean in this context?)
@hollow shell sorry, i don't know how to translate that

[hollow shell]

Probably "atmosphere"

[oblique turtle]

no

[hollow shell]

as in, the general mood that a scene gives you

[oblique turtle]

its nothing about th atmosphere

[wooden wedge]

atmosphere is probably the better word

[oblique turtle]

*the

NO ATMOSPHERE

[wooden wedge]

we're not talking about that atmosphere

we're talking about the story atmosphere

[gray nebula]

atmosphere doesnt just mean the sky

[oblique turtle]

yes this

[wooden wedge]

so atmosphere

[gray nebula]

also what's with weird suggestions without any reasoning recently

[wooden wedge]

iban have you been here for that long

[hollow shell]

@maiden sand what

[wooden wedge]

yes, what

[gray nebula]

I mean like just today there has been quite a lot of these suggs

[wooden wedge]

what the fuck

yeah iban welcome to suggs hope you like it here

[hollow shell]

The Pack makes this sound when you shoot it

[ancient crow]

whut

[gray nebula]

back in the sis days there was more reasoning than nowadays

[ancient crow]

sounds like a flaregun lmao

[hollow shell]

which yes, I suppose is not very fitting for a big rocket launcher

[wooden wedge]

oh it's just wierdly worded

[hollow shell]

But
The suggestion could definitely be a lot more descriptive

[quiet abyss]

^

[toxic kettle]

what if you gave it the sound Thunderstorm makes

[wooden wedge]

ok but what about the current sound is fake?

[hollow shell]

i.e.
Giving context on what The Pack sounds like, for everybody who hasn't used it recently
and also saying why it isn't fitting

[wooden wedge]

I'm guessing giving it a unique sound?

but isn't the pack a gun or something?

oh it's a rocket launcher

[hollow shell]

It's a rocket launcher yeah

[wooden wedge]

ok so now that I have context I would agree with them

but it's just

[hollow shell]

If only @maiden sand provided such context and explanation in his suggestion

which he can still provide

[wooden wedge]

and an mp3 file too

[hollow shell]

via editing

Nah mp3 isn't needed

He just needs to say that it makes a normal bullet sound

[wooden wedge]

I meant wav*

but discord fucked and I couldn't edit it

[gray nebula]

just change the sound without waiting for the sugg to reach 120 stars

[ashen warren]

time to make it use the same sound a sunskater uses on death

[gray nebula]

whats the sunskater death sound

i just know its funny

[hollow shell]

Also @ashen warren that's kinda the point of the weapon

[gray nebula]

yea

they're litterally chained to the body

[hollow shell]

They shoot from your position
hitscan lasers

[gray nebula]

and the body is a stand

[toxic kettle]

Hadopelagic Echo making the sunskater death sound won't be unique anymore then

[hollow shell]

(in contrast to the Endo Hydra heads, you have Mechworm and Corvid Harbinger which are not attached to you and do seek out enemies/bosses)

They were designed with that variety in mind

[gray nebula]

and the viper too

oh rip that suggestion, it died 😔

[hollow shell]

right yeah
seek and shuut

and yeah welp rip

[maiden sand]

@hollow shell.... Ops sorry

[frail mantle]

astrageldon still exists in the form of the abandoned slime staff

[steel knoll]

I meant the boss fight

[hollow shell]

Re-adding removed features is a Don't

[frail mantle]

also re-adding removed content and boss suggs aren't allowed

[hollow shell]

Yes and also boss suggestions aren't allowed

[steel knoll]

It isn’t a new boss

[gray nebula]

it kinda is tho

[hollow shell]

yes it is

There is currently no Astrageldon Slime boss in the game

[gray nebula]

astrageldon was removed for a reason

[frail mantle]

it's a suggestion about adding a boss, even if said boss existed before

[gray nebula]

(because it was a bad boss)

[hallow kraken]

Yeah

[gray nebula]

and now we have a cool mecha spider

[hallow kraken]

Aureus is cooler

[hollow shell]

And also the Don'ts doc explicitly uses Astrageldon Slime as an example for what not to suggest, in relation to re-adding something that was removed

[steel knoll]

Fine but if the people agree you have to see that suggestion on the dev server

[zealous ridge]

[hollow shell]

What?

The suggestion literally isn't allowed

[frail mantle]

^

[gray nebula]

what no

[frail mantle]

it won't be sent to the dev server

[left crest]

astrageldon was literally replaced

[gray nebula]

and even if we see it on the dev server, it would get rejected immediatly

[left crest]

that sugg is not allowed

[frail mantle]

like Iban said, there's a reason Astrageldon got the hammer

[zealous ridge]

yeah, suggestions that dont follow guidelines are deleted

[gray nebula]

[zealous ridge]

so it won't be sent regardless, itll just get deleted

[left crest]

if you want to encounters astrageldon get an old version of the mod that has it off #mod-downloads

[hollow shell]

iunno if those Mega links work anymore

[left crest]

good point

[zealous ridge]

there are people with older versions, though

[hollow shell]

Also 1.4 was the Astral rework update

and there are no pre-1.4 mod downloads files

[left crest]

ohh ye

[frail mantle]

if you want to see Astrageldon again just [[Abandoned Slime Staff]]

[red storm]

https://calamitymod.gamepedia.com/Abandoned_Slime_Staff

[left crest]

I joined in like mid 2019 so i dont know these things ye

but ye, abandoned slime staff

[hollow shell]

@steel knoll Wanna make sure you see the things we said

[sand umbra]

ye, Abandoned Slime Staff exists

[dry grotto]

i mean, astrageldon i don't care if he comes back

but i do agree that i wish his theme could be a music box still

or something

[sand umbra]

and while it isn't a boss, it might at least give some closure for those who did like the big blob

[dry grotto]

maybe make it something cirrus sells

[sturdy pelican]

Astrum Aureus

big blob was funnish though

[gray nebula]

eh

KS but space

[frail mantle]

Astrageldon was just KS except lasers and instakill post-ML

[sturdy pelican]

chunky purple man

[sand umbra]

that said:

Aureus' new theme is better don't @ me

[dry grotto]

i mean, current astrum aureus is golem but with minions

[hollow shell]

Also @maiden sand That's not the thing we wanted you to edit about your suggestion.
We know what The Pack is (tho the clarification is okay to have).
The thing you need to include is a reason why the current sound doesn't fit the weapon.

(You could also explain that the current sound is the normal bullet sound, and that that's not fitting for a big rocket launcher weapon)

[maiden sand]

oh sorry again, i haven't understand that

[hybrid fjord]

Astrogeldon Slime is gone, in the same vein as the Lorde. It's not coming back

[maiden sand]

ok gimme some minute, as you see my eng is not one of the best, ill need some minute

[hollow shell]

Alright

[dry grotto]

no

[flint sorrel]

I mean

[dry grotto]

the lorde and astrageldon should not be compared

lorde was a mistake in and of itself

[flint sorrel]

You can always soul of eternity + abandonded slime staff

I'm sure you'd get somewhere with that

[dry grotto]

again, i'd like if cirrus or any other calamity npc could sell the music box for astral disgust

[toxic kettle]

pretty sure trying to bring back Astrageldon Slime is a don't

[maiden sand]

ok ok done rover, i hope is good this time

[wooden wedge]

why is the funny astral slime boss sugg still up

[dry grotto]

idk

if it was a sugg about the song, i'd instantly star it

[wooden wedge]

also the theme exists on YT and YuH probably has a download

[hollow shell]

Alright that's better nxsuper
One last thing: The entire thing doesn't need to be bolded. Just the first sentence.

[wooden wedge]

since YuH is the old calamity person

[dry grotto]

so what sand

i wanna listen to it in terraria

while fighting other bosses

[wooden wedge]

then

use youtube

[dry grotto]

no

that causes lag

also, i feel like that's a bad excuse for why there's no box for it sand

[maiden sand]

ok, thanks again rover, ill do better next time , Thanks for the patience

[dry grotto]

"it's on youtube so a music box for a song made for a boss that was specifically in this mod before shouldn't be added in"

[wooden wedge]

oh we were talking about music boxes

idk

[dry grotto]

i was

yes

[frail mantle]

there's no music box for it cause Astrageldon and its theme was vibe checked

[molten dune]

What's the ❕ for

[dry grotto]

and i don't like it leon

[frail mantle]

[dry grotto]

that's why i want a music box atleast

[hollow shell]

That reaction means the suggestion is not considered valid yet
(it's automatically added to all suggestions, then removed once the sugg is deemed valid)

I was uhh
expecting nxsuper to remove the excessive bolding

[molten dune]

kk

[hollow shell]

but I guess it's fine as it is

[dry grotto]

ohh yeh, would be better if he just bolded the important parts of the sentence

[maiden sand]

i was not sure if it was good in the end, so i haven't remove it, i was pretty unsure

[hollow shell]

Just the bolding

bolding as in this

You only need it on the first sentence

Having it on the entire thing is too much

[ashen warren]

i hope my suggestion is added cause i would like to see more people use the aestheticus cause it's really underated

or at least it seems to be underated

[maiden sand]

lew i have use it until moon lord,i really love it

[hollow shell]

There we go, much better 👍
Thank you

[maiden sand]

but the damage was to low at that point, and yeye !!

[unkempt bolt]

astrageldon slime is a nono

[hollow shell]

Indeed it is

[ashen warren]

yeah its damage is pretty low at that point

[unkempt bolt]

any suggs relating to readding removed content aren't allowed

[hollow shell]

Considering PErson just decided to up and leave, I'll delete it

[unkempt bolt]

crazy how many people do that lol

[hollow shell]

He did respond initially

but he didn't understand that the suggestion was inherently invalid and needed to be removed

I guess he thought people jsut didn't like it?

[frail mantle]

wait did he leave

says he's still here for me

[unkempt bolt]

not leave the server, just ceased being active

[frail mantle]

ah

[dry grotto]

can i suggest the music box thing tho rover?

or is that also a no

[hollow shell]

Ehhh

that kinda falls under this

[frail mantle]

wouldn't it also kinda count as re-adding removed content

[hollow shell]

Just a music file & box with no purpose other than sentimental value

[dry grotto]

ahh well

i mean, still sad tho

[hollow shell]

You already have Abandoned Slime Staff for remembering Astrageldon by
And you can still listen to the theme on YouTube

(btw I'm gonna be inactive for a few days so if any weird stuff occurs in suggestions other mods are gonna need to handle it)

(sorry bout that, good luck)

[dry grotto]

cya, stay safe

[maiden sand]

stay safe!

[unkempt bolt]

buh bye!