Makes sense, it's a useful utility
#suggestions-discussion
sinful steeple
I feel like the wooden boomerang and enchanted boomerang(or maybe just enchanted boomerang if it isn't crafted using the wooden boomerang) should be craftable, so that you don't have to rely on finding it in a chest
hollow shell
I assume that a recipe does exist already but is not documented on the wiki. Happened with Ice Boomerang earlier.
Hold onto that idea, I'll check in the morning
sinful steeple
Okay
ashen warren
zenith hazel
there was no need to remind us to deliver your suggestion, we can just scroll through the channel and look at stuff ourselves
reminding us to do it just makes you look impatient
ashen warren
add reminders about sending suggs to the don'ts or smt iirc 
pulsar jay
can we get some kind of pause period on enraged core where it sits still for a second? there isn't a Single Available summon for SG that can keep up with it or track it enough to land a ranged shot
and since summons have no concept of targetting, every time core posseses a slime, they go after the slime and kill it
what results is core maybe getting to half hp and then both slimes dying
core no longer takes damage from said summons ever again
and you just cannot hurt it anymore
sinful steeple
Pretty sure Core is invincible while it possesses a Slime
pulsar jay
summoner never really gets taken into account for
sure this update will add a bunch of summons but are they actually going to fix the issues?
tired haven
ashen warren
tired haven
I mean, in case of summoner any content aside from maybe postplant fixes issues
(aside from class-defining critical flaws like being god at CC and sucking at bosses)
fervent citrus
may i suggest fixing 3 probs about AS? cuz its driving me nuts 
pulsar jay
are the new summons going to be able to keep up with yharon sub8 or enraged core?
those are everyone's big issues
it Can't hit anything because of ai limitations
tired haven
No idea tbh
(for core you could always use ballista spam iirc)
pulsar jay
does it have strong enough aim?
tired haven
If you spawn it right on core, indeed
sinful steeple
There's also herring staff which is pretty fast right
tired haven
pulsar jay
if rng treats you wrong herring staff just straight up might not exist in your world
sinful steeple
There's like 19 houses in my abyss
sinful steeple
Assuming abysses have similar numbers of houses you'd have to be pretty unlucky to not get the herring staff
pulsar jay
a bunch of lionfish and frogs and diving gear that I didn't really need at the time
ashen warren
pretty sure the first 9 chests are guaranteed to be one of each item
digital saddle
slime god isnt that hard
a decent arena and understanding his patterns should be enough to dodge him
sinful steeple
Hold up not even in Death does Slime God have close to half of 60k health
frail mantle
yea he has 24k health in death
flat crane
I'm about to embark on a Calamity journey for the first time. I decided to add the following mods aswell: Magic Storage, Veinminer, Recipe Browser and Boss Checklist.
Is there any other mods that you guys think would go well with Calamity?
sinful steeple
I don't think this is the channel for that...
tepid root
yeah this is suggestions for the mod itself, not suggesting what you should use
flat crane
you might be right. I'll head elsewhere. Thank you. The channels did sort of overlap š
ashen warren
Yāall had me confused thinking you were gonna use Herring Staff for Yharon
I was like, what sort of banter is this?
radiant meadow
@hollow shell there's no enchanted boomerang recipe
I didn't add one because gold chests are like 50 times more common than ice chests, meaning the chance of not finding an Enchanted Boomerang is pretty absurd.
unkempt bolt
they most likely went on the wiki, saw it had 24k health, assumed that was per slime, and tripled it
tired haven
Or it may be old deathmode numbers
No idea
Wait they mention normal mode, I'm a dummy
frail mantle
inb4 they've upped boss health
tired haven
"it was hella easy so we buffed hp to slog state just so you actually put effort towards victory now"
ashen warren
I forget that people that play Calamity in normal mode even exist
sand umbra
I didn't add one because gold chests are like 50 times more common than ice chests, meaning the chance of not finding an Enchanted Boomerang is pretty absurd.
yet that chance isn't absurd for not finding basically any other Gold Chest item
hollow shell
Hermes Boots, Lava Charm, Cloud in a Bottle, and Magic Mirror do all have recipes
though tbf, those are all more important than Enchanted Boomerang
Aight @sinful steeple a recipe does not exist, but look at Ben's message (that Thomas just quoted)
sinful steeple
Yeah I saw
I dunno though, the enchanted boomerang is required for celestus
That's pretty important
It's not really necessary though, even if you didn't get an enchanted boomerang you can search for one and find it after a while so I guess a recipe isn't that important
hollow shell
Yeah cuz those 4 things are all very valuable during pre-HM, early game
while Enchanted Boomerang at that time is one of many weapons
You have all of Pre-HM and the beginning of Hardmode to find it to craft Equanimity, and (if you don't) all the way till post-Yharon to find it to craft Celestus
Basically the entire game
sinful steeple
Yeah
distant gyro
(and Terra/Elemental Disk)
Chances of getting an Enchanted Boomerang seems to by 13.57% from Underground Chests and 13% in Cavern chests
hollow shell
m
And considering it's nigh-guaranteed, it'd be good to keep it uncraftable so players actually do need to bother going out into the world to find the thing
Spend more than 5 minutes exploring
hollow shell
In some cases it kinda needs to
because it adds many further usages for items (recipe trees) that, in vanilla, aren't guaranteed to spawn or may spawn in very annoying places (like only having 1 or 2 Lava Charms in the entire world, or never getting a Cobalt Shield because your Dungeon genned too small)
ashen warren
In other cases it does attempt to make up for it with new and unique things to find, such as shrine items
sand umbra
you can get every Dungeon chest item sans the Valor by fishing
hollow shell
Yeah, and they can do that somewhat safely because shrine items are never crafted into anything
tepid root
whats the sans in that statement mean
sand umbra
fun fact of the day: "sans" is an actual word, not just the funny skelepun name
and ye, it means "without"
(and while Valor can't be obtained through the Dungeon Lock Boxes that come from Dungeon Crates, it isn't used for anything and is instantly immensely outclassed by Chadscade so 
)
hollow shell
Indeed.
(Sans's name refers to Comic Sans, a Sans Serif font. "Serifs" are the lil accents at the edges of letters in certain fonts like Times New Roman, so "Sans Serif" means that there are no lil accents. "Comic Sans" is one such font.)
anyway yeah
It's kinda weird that we add recipes for Murasama, Cobalt Shield, and Shadow Key considering they are renewable
I guess because fishing is boring
ashen warren
Valor is kinda like Dark Lance:
Itās useless.
sand umbra
crafting is even more boring because at least you go somewhere and do something to go fishing
ashen warren
And also setting up a fishing spot in the dungeon sucks because no water naturally exists there
sand umbra
you just sit at a Magic Storage for crafting
it's not particularly difficult to set up a Dungeon fishing spot if you know what you're doing
given that water dupe exists and you can fairly easily set up a place where very few enemies will bother you
hollow shell
Funnily enough, we do not add recipes for Magic Missile and Aqua Scepter despite them being used in Calamity recipes
... I guess because the items those craft are not as vital as the ones we do give recipes for
hollow shell
That's true
ashen warren
I once used water duping to make a Polter arena utilizing abyss diving suit
sand umbra
water duping is mainly relevant for pre-Hardmode
since in Hardmode you can get Bottomless Water Bucket
either by doing the little fisher prick's quests or by having a bunch of Siren-n'-Levi Sushi for lunch
ashen warren
I didnāt have it and didnāt feel like getting it iirc
Either that or Iām dumb and I duped it anyway
I guess I would have assumed duping was still faster
hollow shell
I've never done water duping and I have no idea how to do it
If I gotta set up a fishing hole I usually look for an underground lake nearby and channel all the water to the desired area
sand umbra
that's another way to do it
ashen warren
I hear making a box and filling it with water is the most efficient fishing hole
Also water duping is stupid easy
sand umbra
in other news: I'm boutta head in here with a possible sugg
Have the small worms from Astrum Deus spawn in pairs or smaller groups as the main worm's health decreases, rather than all 11 at once at the start of the fight.
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Currently, the fight against Deuces Wild --- the single most hitbox-heavy worm boss fight in the game --- is a unique but awkward one. While the idea of the fight is extremely good on paper and has a lot of potential, the execution of the fight as it is now falls flat because it provides the player with about 100 hitboxes that can be hit at once; this explains why Deus has an extremely harsh pierce resist and over a dozen specific resists on top of that. Making the small worms spawn in pairs or groups of 3, and presumably having both the small worms and the big worm evolve a bit more in terms of moveset throughout the fight, would not only open up a large number of possibilities with having the worms do new things, but also solve at least a decent portion of the plethora of balancing issues that this fight tends to bring up due to piercing funnies.
on today's episode of "Thomas revisits an old sugg idea and is a lot more vague about it": this
thoughts?
ashen warren
I suppose you can have them spawn in waves, and have the main worm get more aggressive with each wave
zealous ridge
if deus is going to keep the whole wormswarm thing its gotta be toned down like this
hollow shell
What do you mean by "in pairs or smaller groups" rather than at once
Would this be on a time interval, or as the main worm's health decreases like Perfs, or what?
zealous ridge
having them spawn like perfs would be the preferable choice, i think
make it a sort of spiritual successor
in worm-focused combat, at least
hollow shell
(If you don't wanna define any specific methods for when/how the worm groups would be spawned, that's okay
but atm it's not clear that you mean that they'd spawn at different intervals)
sand umbra
...Discord please stop eating die
hollow shell
You could add a "at different points throughout the fight" or something
sand umbra
okay there we go
hollow shell
That's in the sentence where he's talking about how their AIs would change
sand umbra
my internet shit itself for a second
zealous ridge
its the same sentence
sand umbra
clarified
zealous ridge
but let's not distract
hollow shell
Okay thanks Thomas
zealous ridge
ye i like this sugg
ashen warren
Do you think each wave of worms should get stronger in some way?
hollow shell
The number of worms could increase
ashen warren
I suppose that could work. I was thinking something along the lines of, new attack or faster, but I guess that works
Honestly we donāt need faster Deuces
sand umbra
the worms could also do additional/different things as you get further in the fight (drones, lasers, new attacks that actually feel like infected attacks, etc.)
bonus points: main worm does special shit when it's on its own, maybe draw from the fact that it's the would-be successor to the literal god of the stars
the fight doesn't take nearly enough advantage of what Deuces is from a lore perspective at all, imo
hollow shell
That part isn't necessarily important and Thomas already says that they could have AI changes as the fight goes on
The point is that it's not an all-at-once swarm
sand umbra
byeah
ashen warren
And that case Iām totally down, and Iāll be sad if that sugg doesnāt make it
sand umbra
the big takeaway is that. the whole 11-worms-at-once memery really needs to be toned down, it makes the fight almost too simple and a balancing headache
anywho, time to post
toxic aurora
good suggestion
sand umbra
oh WOW that gained a lot of traction really fast
gray nebula
mighty knot
@drifting oxide not gonna happen
the recipe is there so that people can do the servants before providence if you're godlike enough
sinful steeple
Even if that was added making the thing not work pre Provi it'd be useless since you get a drop from her anyway
Waste of resources
calm onyx
Dues's current fight isn't very fun imo and I'd love to see it changed.
hollow shell
@drifting oxide Removing Calamity's non-linearity is a Don't
(in fact, this suggestion is used as an example in the Don'ts doc)
((Also regardless of that it doesn't make any sense to craft the Rune before Providence if you can't use it, because Providence always drops the Rune of Kos on first kill and it's non-consumable))
ashen warren
Reading the donāts doc is a foreign concept
wooden wedge
it shouldn't be
void kelp
the pins? who reads those
wooden wedge
people who have common sense
vital marlin
i actually like current astrum deus fight. feels like 2 worms most of the time instead of a dozen.
ashen warren
Wish I could relate
indigo fog
no
hollow shell
@topaz kindle That's in the Don'ts doc.
Calamity Vanities mod adds one of those, so you can go download that.
sand umbra
...it's been three hours and the Deuces sugg is already at half the star threshold
this was. unexpected
hollow shell
That's neat
pulsar jay
oof
tired haven
Guess everyone just hates worm swarm
pulsar jay
it's been a few days and my spreading crimson and mimic key suggestion only has 80
i can't see why people would disagree though
hollow shell
On this plus side your Super Dummy sugg made it
wooden wedge
there's no disagree in suggs??
the ! emote which was the closest thing was killed
for other people reacting to it
hollow shell
That's not what Hadari meant
tired haven
The theory I have is that the suggestion simply wasn't as interesting to people.
Also mhm, technically disagreement shows in lack of stars
wooden wedge
I thought disagreement was shown mainly through this channel
tired haven
vocal minorities
tired haven
Same shit for positive notes too
pulsar jay
i'm sad about the scal pet thing
it'd probably get somewhere if it wasn't a donor item
hollow shell
Nah, it was totally irrelevant to it being a donor item
considering the donor approved of the suggestion
Well, actually it wasn't totally irrelevant
In fact that worked against it
because the reasoning was the devs did not want the possibility of pets speaking to be a standard
so that other donors couldn't also suggest speaking pets
and give their whole OC story
ashen warren
two suggestions in one bingo bongo
pulsar jay
i thought it was because if she spoke everyone would want their pets to speak
pulsar jay
if it wasn't a donor item the excuse could be that it's actually it's own thing in the game and it's unique
they can't ask for that it's only for that pet because it's not made by a donor
y'know what i'm saying?
hollow shell
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The reason why SCal pet would be able to talk did indeed have reasoning intrinsic to SCal
but because it was a donor item, the possibility would be open to other donors
"he got it, why can't I?"
hollow shell
(I personally felt like we totally could have just let the SCal pet speak and it really would not be much of a problem if other pets spoke too.
If that is a problem, just make it a one and only disallowed thing, like we already did with Normality.)
pulsar jay
what about with normallity
hollow shell
Normality must be the only RoD-like donator item
pulsar jay
ok so donators do get to have exclusive things because they came up with the idea first
so like why
š¦
hollow shell
Yeah
They didn't wanna have to deal with telling people "no" and having to explain the first-come-first-serve standard
(again)
tired haven
The whole issue comes from people willing to get a mod item but not willing to see their concept of one not fitting in game at all and thus rejected
Well, a big part of the issue that is
ashen warren
Do you think there is like a competition for donors to have the most unique items? Is that the issue here?
pulsar jay
Make Summons not target any parts of slime god while core is possessing a slime
Summons have zero concept of kill order, and if core possesses a slime they just go after the slime and kill it. If both slimes are killed, the core enrages, but there's one issue, there isn't a single available summon that can keep up with it, not one, they cannot hit it. This results in a pretty much neverending battle where core not only cannot be hit but is also a foced nohit, because if you get distorted, core can airlock you and you won't be able to dodge him. There's mines everywhere, it makes everything hell. I don't think killing the slimes first was the intention at all considering how powerful core is when enraged, but summoner is forced to do it because they can barely keep up with slime god in phase 1 and just attack the slimes when he's possessing things
hollow shell
That sounds kinda weird that your minions would just stop attacking while that's going on
Seems like it'd be a lil confusing for players
pulsar jay
it's just the fact that summoner basically is softlocked when core enrages, which is 100% of always
i also was thinking they could have core occasionally pause during it's enraged phase
tired haven
Just unsummon summons when the core possesses a slime
That does make the fight longer, but eeh
ashen warren
summons are finicky and bad
tired haven
perhaps. or maybe we just bring a knife to gun fight and complain about that unfairness
After all, it didn't seem like vanilla devs tried hard making summoner viable on bosses. More of a coincidence that it's actually viable on half of them
hollow shell
I think it would be better to let the core be more easily targeted when it is alone than to prevent that situation from happening
ashen warren
Then why are we forcefully shitting on summon damage to punish people why try to work around summons being bad
tired haven
because the same people really insist on summoner being viable enough class to solo a game with it, while also getting a benefit of 2 classes in 1
Also yeah, either core slowdown or maybe some specific type of summon weapon (e. g. res butterfly) to prevent it being a softlock
Totally static sentry with great damage to lure core into could be interesting
ashen warren
It doesnāt take much thought to realize summoner is not meant to be soloād but hey, I donāt make video games
hollow shell
May I recommend against shitting on summoner as a whole
hollow shell
I'm talkin bout your past several messages in general
s'not super productive to discussing Hadari's suggestion
gusty geode
Summoner's not meant to be solo'd?
ashen warren
Yea thatās fair
tired haven
Great class for afk farms/idle tasks
Not so great for bosses
That's about it p much
hallow hatch
Summoner is just a flawed class
hollow shell
cool, not useful to say
late cypress
^
glossy falcon
Well, if you get Thorium, summoner becomes a full class, due to the weapons that just do summon damage
granite sphinx
civic pond
i mean its not specific
but i know what you mean
honestly the 2 biomes dont really have that much to offer(?)
overall that is
drifting lark
Well, it's not supposed to be specific reeeeallly. What I mean is add more too those biomes. It could be as simple as a new type of ore for each to make some cool things, or new enemies specific to those biomes. Or it could even be bosses themed around granite and marble biomes.
hollow shell
Yeah I get the intention (although the last option is impossible)
I just think you aren't givin the devs too much to work with
That might be okay (considering previous arguments against specificity)
but also, still questionable
zealous ridge
personally, some expansion to the marnite line would be preferable
that would be nice to see imo
drifting lark
Well, it's because my specific ideas are kinda crap. specifically I would like to see maybe a mini boss that spawns there to add some danger, while also adding an ore to give more incentive to go there.
And maybe a boss, I don't see how a boss would be impossible
zealous ridge
well, youve got to tread a fine line
civic pond
boss sugs are illegal
zealous ridge
what they mean is, boss suggestions aren't really viable
civic pond
a miniboss would be cool though
drifting lark
OoF, I am Criminal
zealous ridge
i would be okay with a miniboss
civic pond
yeah honestly
zealous ridge
here's some things you could add
specifically, try and add a bit of elaboration
for instance, not just "add new stuff there"
maybe "have the materials found there be more useful", or, "expand the marnite set of items"
drifting lark
Ie. a granite miniboss and a marble mini boss for their respective biomes that drop a resource to have granite and marble tools
zealous ridge
i think that would give the devs more room to work with
yeah, heck a miniboss would be okay to add
drifting lark
How did I know you were going to say Marnite again?
zealous ridge
because i already said it. 
drifting lark
Giggity
ashen warren
ye
zealous ridge
eh
ashen warren
it doesnt really suggest anything and rather asks for other people to think of something
zealous ridge
its a bit broad, but that can be improved
ye, i believe they're working on it rn
yeah, added somethin
drifting lark
I did an edit
civic pond
i mean the 2 are pretty bland as of now
hollow shell
Alright, that's better
drifting lark
Victory dance
I don't have any cool names or designs for what mini bosses and rewards could be sadly
drifting lark
Worry intensifies
zealous ridge
ashen warren
i think enemies would be better than minibosses imo
drifting lark
Well, maybe four new enemies (two per biome) And the two minibosses (one per biome) plus the drops. We can call it the "Pretty Biome Update"
civic pond
like 2 each or something
zealous ridge
thing is theres some stuff to consider
ashen warren
1 ph 1 h, etc
zealous ridge
case in point- thorium does literally the exact same thing
ashen warren
yeah
pulsar jay
thorium moment
zealous ridge
ashen warren
that just gave me a totally unrelated but godly idea
drifting lark
Frantically googles Thorium mod
glossy falcon
You know what'd be cool, If the granit anf marble biomes were turned into full fledged biomes like the underground desert or sunken sea
drifting lark
Ah, so Thorium is a mod
pulsar jay
it's a good mod
drifting lark
Let me just uhhhhhhhh Adds to modpack
ashen warren
i mean they kinda are, just separated across the map as minibiome sorta things
having them clump together sometimes might be cool but also messing with vanilla generation doesnt
drifting lark
I would still like some variety to the biomes. Because otherwise I just mine them off all that tasty granite and marble block to make the pretty houses.
ashen warren
also, i suggest something about resprites earlier, should i post it in #pixel-art on the art server or something
gray nebula
depends on the suggestion
weary walrus
Mage is weaker than melee?
civic pond
the chad melee doesn't consume mana, join us
weary walrus
I do agree that at this point summoner struggle a bit but mages? They're literally bootleg ranger
weary walrus
Nah
weary walrus
Depends on what weapons you're using
glossy falcon
Melee is worse early but way better late one they get some good projectile weapons
subtle oracle
I agree with Hadari, forbidden armor seems quite lack luster
indigo fog
I mean mana flower is a thing and I've been getting shorter kill times with the Mana Flower equipped, even when I use weapons that have low mana cost.
weary walrus
If you're using high mana usage, use mana flower+, if not just use mana regen potion
sand umbra
Forbidden armor nulls the summon damage penalty in Calamity
do with this information as you will
weary walrus
Sounds fair
pulsar jay
the thing with frost armor is
you don't have to use both classes to get the strength out of the armor
if you're pure class the armor isn't of any use
meanwhile a just melee or just ranger could pick up the frost armor and be fine
not to mention sandstorms are way harder to deal with than ice golem
sand umbra
Forbidden armor even in vanilla is conceptually fucking awesome but leaves something to be desired in terms of performance
weary walrus
It's not really that bad tbh
pulsar jay
oh also the set bonus is trash becsuse it can't be used underground even though in early hm that's where you are 90% of the time
the wings don't even have to give a stat increase I'd be happy if they just improved the tornado by allowing to to adapt to spaces and not cost mana
ashen warren
I'm all for more vanity items
indigo fog
wait where's the reason
ashen warren
I'd personally say more than just capes and such
indigo fog
wait nevermind i see it
indigo fog
Not exactly sure if "would look pretty nice" is a strong enough reason to be accepted
radiant meadow
so like this except with a cape?
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/458432092301295618/692740860080554074/counterScarfWorn.gif
indigo fog
is that counter scarf
wooden wedge
looks like it
radiant meadow
yes, but it's not done I don't think
sleek vigil
you don't always need a reason for something, i just love small things like that in games/mods, things that add depth and detail without having too much meaning to it
wooden wedge
you do need a reason
radiant meadow
for suggestions though, ideally we want a reason
sleek vigil
and yeah that with a cape, and what other reason would there be besides it looking good?
wooden wedge
you just gave us a better reason
radiant meadow
for example, Calamity doesn't add many vanity items. I think this would help spice up gameplay.
sleek vigil
oh yeah that's true, i'll add it :p thank you
radiant meadow
why would we craft 3 items into one
just to craft into victide bars?
victide bar is basically the compressed item???
indigo fog
i mean they can just drop the bars
subtle oracle
That is what I was going to say..
ashen warren
the point is that it's 4 materials which is annoying
but yeah they can just drop the bars directly
radiant meadow
not sure how I feel about them dropping the bars directly thematically that is
digital saddle
ive always found it super annoying having to give up a bunch of chest slots just for victide bars
zenith hazel
not all of the materials have to be used for victide bars solely tbh, they can also be used for crafting certain items too iirc
digital saddle
coral i think is used in 1 potion
zenith hazel
so basically you're forcing players to go to the ocean for said materials
digital saddle
the others arent used in crafting
indigo fog
victory shards craft into things too
ashen warren
making more items use them could help mayhaps
radiant meadow
I'd rather have them make more stuff than have cnidrion shit out a bar on death
zenith hazel
besides, you can just bring a piggy bank with you to store items anyway
it can't be that packed in underground desert
ashen warren
if all 4 items had more presence it would give cnidrion farming some significance beyond the bars
digital saddle
my suggestion is kind of a compromise between those 2
so you arent hauling around 4 materials just to make 1 ingot
subtle oracle
Also, don't forget about safes
radiant meadow
and spark
subtle oracle
And defender storage
digital saddle
and it doesnt drop the bars directly
radiant meadow
safe is post skeletron tbf
ashen warren
spark is just an acc that's pretty ok
sleek vigil
edited, i have a ton more ideas but they're just such small things which would mainly contribute to the comfy playthroughs where you build a nice house and stuff instead of bossfights only
radiant meadow
and literally nobody in their right mind farms for defender's forge pre mechs
or even if at all
subtle oracle
There are people out there, who would do such a thing
sleek vigil
like (yeah actually) anthills which pick up items from the ground and take them back to their nests, breaking the nests will spawn a lot of angry ants, maybe even an ant miniboss? idk
digital saddle
tf is defenders forge
radiant meadow
it's like a big safe
radiant meadow
basically extra inventory space
ashen warren
stopping the grind to pick up some snazzy vanity items was always a thing that I found fun in terraria, the change of pace does wonders to the longevity of the game, adding this to calamity would make the constant barrage of bossfight after bossfight have some downtime, and give more weight to each one in turn
digital saddle
tbh i always skip old ones army
ashen warren
feel free to yoink that if you want, vivid
sleek vigil
exactly that yeah, basically stuff that goes in between bossfights, even if it's small things you wouldn't ever take a look at if you didn't want to
i'd need to rewrite my suggestion with a lot of tiny ideas maybe, will do that tomorrow or so don't have the headspace rn to think :p
ashen warren
try and keep it separate
ultralarge suggestions don't get in
for a multitude of reasons
sleek vigil
i'll try, just don't want to post like 5 suggestions in a row, feel like that wouldn't be appreciated
ashen warren
yeah that's also true
sleek vigil
or i'll make prototypes in a mod of my own and if they're worth it, submit them, idk i'll take a look
pulsar jay
they should just make summons only attack the core until it is dead
ashen warren
what should happen is the right click on summon weapons should actually work
radiant meadow
calamity summons should prioritize a targetted enemy if possible
exceptions are hermit crabs and shellfish I think because they're missing the prioritizing code but I added it for next update
unless it's already public
ashen warren
now that would be sweet, if it's been fixed I might just try and play summoner again
ashen warren
doesn't seem to be mentioned in changelogs
vocal grotto
Not everything is put in changelogs
radiant meadow
radiant meadow
I don't remember if dreadmine respecting minion targetting is public or not
I think it is because I think I fixed that when making guidelight
hot zephyr
is that a boss nerf request in suggestions
slime god nerf
ashen warren
sg nerf for normal mode
wooden wedge
yeah I saw someone fight SG recently, and if he got hit once the fight was basically who could kill eachother first since the projectiles were on the same level as the warped gravity debuff
in normal*
hot zephyr
SG doesn't need a nerf
wooden wedge
a pre HM boss shouldn't be a bullet hell in normal mode
hot zephyr
SG isn't a bullet hell
wooden wedge
the core becomes a bullet hell when it's enraged
ashen warren
SG has one debuff that makes it a yikes in normal mode, and that's distorted
the rest is somewhat on par with WoF
sand umbra
literally nobody in their right mind farms for defender's forge pre mechs
correction:
ashen warren
Well maybe itās the CORE of the issue
yeah and people who play normal don't dodge like ninjas
sand umbra
literally nobody in their right mind farms for defender's forge
hot zephyr
but... sg isn't hard to dodge
ashen warren
because if you're doing ooa you're doing it for summoner stuff
wooden wedge
that's not the point
ashen warren
SG isn't hard for you to dodge
hot zephyr
It just... on paper... isn't hard to dodge
wooden wedge
if you get hit by the core once it becomes a test of who can last longer, the player or the boss
which it shouldn't be
hot zephyr
Don't get hit by the core
wooden wedge
also that's 100% not true
ashen warren
"just don't get hit"\
wooden wedge
it's subjective
ashen warren
disgusting argument
hot zephyr
Most of the boss can be counter by walking away
wooden wedge
and saying to not get hit isn't helpful
hot zephyr
It's a disgusting argument that works.
ashen warren
We are talking about normal mode, where people choose to play it because they KNOW they are going to get hit
No, because surprisingly enough, not everyone is a nohitting deathmode madman.
hot zephyr
90% of SG's attacks aren't even in Normal mode
wooden wedge
cool
that isn;t the point
it's supposed to be easy for normal mode but if you get hit by the enraged core it becomes too difficult
when you get distorted the core can just hit you again and again
ashen warren
Itās not a mode that should optimally punish into a kill off of one move. That should be a Rev+ moment
like just look at how complex bosses get in normal mode
wooden wedge
while spraying a fuckton of projectiles at you as well
hot zephyr
The Slime Gods don't even shoot in Normal
hot zephyr
Apparently more than you lol
wooden wedge
the core shoots projectiles in normal mode
hot zephyr
And the other slimes don't
ashen warren
not expert, or rev, or death
hot zephyr
And besides it's normal mode Calamity I'm 99% sure you can just facetank SG there lol
ashen warren
no you can't
hot zephyr
Hyperbole.
wooden wedge
not when you are getting hit every time your I frames end
ashen warren
because calamity has some global stuff that isn't locked into rev+
split narwhal
Cursed prevents you from attacking
hot zephyr
Regardless, just nuking it's health isn't going to fix the underlying problem you're trying to avoid
And Nazar, Freeze.
If the .5 seconds of Cursed is too tough
split narwhal
1.5 seconds, and also nazar is pretty rare imo
hot zephyr
There's way healther changes to the boss that can be done to make it play better
wooden wedge
such as?
hot zephyr
Switch it's debuff to something that stops flight/jump accessories instead of a stun?
In lore, it could be that the slime you've been coated in weighs you down
Hooks/minecarts would still work
ashen warren
ehhh
split narwhal
Not ravager again
ashen warren
Also according to the wiki the split slimes shoot abyss orbs even in normal
most of the time, the fastest way to make a boss easier is to make it slower
hot zephyr
Considering Slime God, like Ravager, is just shit on by movement accessories
Just flat nerfs would ruin the fight, lol.
ashen warren
giving even .2 more seconds to react is huge
hot zephyr
Chances are, your slowdown wouldn't even work
With Slime God, it's probably already on top of you
ashen warren
because it's got fast mimic ai
.2 seconds means a lot more to us than it does to anyone playing normal mode Iām sure
hot zephyr
With my solution, if you can react correctly you can avoid the stunlock
ashen warren
you'd be surprised how long .2 seconds is in boss fights
ashen warren
wasn't talking to you fuck
This isnāt getting anywhere so letās just stop
being conflict-avoidant doesn't get anything done either
Well no oneās mind is changing
hollow shell
This indeed is not going anywhere
ashen warren
Nice name, Rover
hollow shell
thanks
pulsar jay
Suggestions guardian has awoken
ashen warren
We need to make a Suggestions Dungeon so that Rover can be the Dungeon Guardian
indigo fog
what would a suggestions dungeon even be
ashen warren
Something for Rover to be the guardian of
Perhaps #suggestions-voting is the sugg dungeon, and Roverās task as the guardian is to ensure that the dungeon is used as a warehouse in which to store good ideas
radiant meadow
Alright cease with the meming
ashen warren
Okay
hollow shell
Reading the Suggestion Don'ts doc is like killing Skeletron.
Because if you try to enter #suggestions-voting without doing so, you face my unbridled wrath. 
hot zephyr
90% of people haven't read the pins, I believe
Seeing how many people don't like people liking their own sugg
hollow shell
Also I don't think I've said anything more lame in my life
ashen warren
Weāre all lame sometimes, itās okay
lunar lark
does a suggestion need 100 stars to get approved ?
lunar lark
i'm stupit sorry
glossy falcon
Most info you'd need is in the pins of the various channels
Nothing wrong with asking, But you should check pins first or you'll just get the same answer I gave if it's in there
tame isle
ok, thank you for letting me know, sorry that I didn't know that
bronze gale
When I want to repost, I have to wait another 7 days right?
hollow shell
From the original posting, yeah
bronze gale
aight, 24 hours to go
hollow shell
(And only if the original post did not get delivered)
bronze gale
Delivered?
hollow shell
120 stars.
bronze gale
as in a check mark?
hollow shell
yeah
hollow shell
(Some people wanna repost even after getting delivered, just to make sure the devs really saw it.. I guess)
hot zephyr
Anyone else feel like having #suggestions-voting based on a popularity contest might not be the healthiest thing?
hot zephyr
I get it's to sort out poor suggestions... but still.
mighty knot
I would suggest multiple channels for different kinds of suggestions, but...
...no server suggestions
(right?)
bronze gale
Well the people is just the ones that want that to happen, but the devs and admins are the real ones that actually take it in
mighty knot
oh cool
hollow shell
Yeah the popularity contest is just so it gets officially sent to the devs
The devs have a quality-based Yes-No vote from there
lost agate
I mean, the point of a suggestion is that people actually want that aint it?
bronze gale
yes
hot zephyr
It's just a flawed system in that, a suggestion can be good but unpopular and never be seen and then really poor suggestions can be sent up and waste time
bronze gale
xd
hot zephyr
The community doesn't know what it want, and shouldn't be trusted.
bronze gale
thats why there's a checkmark
lost agate
Well thats a mood
bronze gale
like the most recent suggestion
hollow shell
Damn, ain't that a hot take
lost agate
If a suggestion is that good or that urgent theres a chance a dev implements it anyway if they notice it
bronze gale
^
teal ibex
the only other option is to have suggestions directly sent to the devs
mighty knot
ohh no
teal ibex
which, for obvious reasons, is an unsustainable system
unless you'd like suggestion curators which, again, is just the same issue you mentioned but rehashed to a greater power
lost agate
Meme suggs going to devs hoh boy
hot zephyr
I'd actually think curators, done right, would be best.
hollow shell
And the portion of suggestions that are very well thought out good ideas, and are general and small in scope enough to be considered valid, and don't get a lot of support from the public for some reason
is not a very large portion of suggestions
hot zephyr
It's still a portion
teal ibex
community popularity is also within the interest of the devs. good design can receive large backlash because this community is, like you mentioned, not always savvy to the ideal state of a game vs what's fun
see: zerg changes
hollow shell
It's all your suggestions, isn't it
hot zephyr
Oh yeah, nail on the head.
hollow shell
teal ibex
and even zerg changes got through in this system
hot zephyr
/s
teal ibex
so it's a pretty miniscule issue in my eyes
lost agate
Add another condition to if a dev didnt notice it and implemented it anyway
Aka, a lot of conditions
mighty knot
"why aren't you putting this in #suggestions-voting?"
ahem
Make Multiple Suggestion Channels for Different Kinds of Suggestions
After recently raising the required star amount due to a growth in number of suggestions, this channel has probably doubled in activity since then, and it's often overwhelming and overflowing. Different channels would essentially allow for a much less spammy and rapid flow of suggestions, which really is the main point of it. Because of the different categories ('balance suggestions,' 'additive suggestions,' etc.), it would be easy to know where to put your suggestion, and users or devs could almost 'sort' them if need be.
thinking about it logically, I'm not sure how exactly this would help
but I feel like it would
feedback?
hot zephyr
More suggestion challenges wouldn't reduce the garbage, just spread it out
mighty knot
š fair
hot zephyr
Make the server have even more useless channels 
lost agate
mighty knot
but we aren't allowed to make a 'garbage suggestions' channel
hot zephyr
Help and advice and Calamity mod talk are basically the same channel at this point. Why not merge em' lol
lost agate
Because people should go to help but they dont
mighty knot
if we make a garbage suggestions channel, people might get mad
people get mad at anything
lost agate
The intention is there
mighty knot
and nobody's gonna put they're suggestion in garbage suggestions
lost agate
Its just not respected
hollow shell
Hm, we used to get the "separate #suggestions-voting" suggestion a lot
But I guess it hasn't happened in a few months
hot zephyr
Honestly, if we're talking about server changes, an optional shitpost channel might de-toxify the community tbh
hollow shell
pff, none since the banning of SISs
which makes sense
teal ibex
n o
hollow shell
Yeaah Ian it wouldn't do that
hot zephyr
Worth a shot, at least.
lost agate
All the offtopic/meme chats died
mighty knot
I'm getting a 3/4
lost agate
Because it was a huge mess
tepid root
there was a meme channel at some point but it was just
hollow shell
We had a shitposting channel.
It was awful.
It existed and eventually got removed in a fit of rage for being a cesspit
hot zephyr
And now the shitposts lightly blanket every chat, instead of filling just one.
teal ibex
i feel like you really generalize these points pretty hard
hollow shell
Raw pure shitposts aren't really allowed in any channel
hot zephyr
They're there, even in this channel.
teal ibex
yes, every decision has flaws
mighty knot
I feel like the assumption of 'community's gonna shitpost somewhere and must get x amount posted' is a bit unlikely
hollow shell
What, you mean jokes?
teal ibex
pointing out that flaws exist in the current system doesn't mean it's failing
ashen warren
If multiple sugg channels allow people to understand the likelihood of their sugg making it and/or had different star requirement, Iād be down for it
teal ibex
it means that we've weighed the cons of each option and decided that the current one is more befitting the server
if you want perfection, you might as well uninstall discord
that's the only way you'll get it
hot zephyr
That's the only way multiple suggestion channels would work, with different star requirement
bronze gale
hot zephyr
So then we can make one entirely for boss suggs and I can forget it ever exists and just hang out in one for QoL suggs
ashen warren
Boss suggs are a donāt
hollow shell
It would probably require quite a bit of research to decide on the different star requirements for certain suggestions based on their likelihood of implementation
hot zephyr
I'd honestly sort em' into the scope/size of the suggestion
hot zephyr
Small scale ones, say the change of one thing could go into a light suggestions, with minimal stars while "Literally rework an entire biome" can require 300
mighty knot
like, 'change brimstone monster sprites' vs 'overhaul adrenaline' is obvious
but there is definitely gray area
hollow shell
Grand scope suggestions like that recently got added as a Don't because of their ridiculous unlikelihood
mighty knot
well we get em anyway
hot zephyr
And out of all the mechanics to overhaul? Why Adrenaline and not Rage, lol
teal ibex
oh huh, did my lifesteal suggestion kinda skirt the line of that rule? 
hollow shell
(Boss/Biome/Class/Event were all specifically called out as Don'ts, but it was just generalized to be anything that's very big in scale)
And yeah you prolly won't be able to post a sugg like that now
lost agate
Werent you against more suggs chats just a minute ago
hollow shell
cuz it was after
hot zephyr
It's almost when presented with good points, people can evolve and change!
It's almost like people can grow.
mighty knot
nah
teal ibex
jeez man 
hollow shell
That's wishful thinking Ian
lost agate
You complained about more chats because they were useless
hot zephyr
And I was presented with good points?
hollow shell
Well then he was presented with usages
hot zephyr
Am I supposed to rally with one side and not consider any conflicting evidence? Am I literally supposed to be one dimensional. Lol.
hollow shell
(I guess you coulda made it clearer that you had changed your mind instead of just starting to argue for the other side š¤·āāļø)
(iunno)
hot zephyr
It's implied.
hollow shell
Whatever
teal ibex
be a total d-bag about stuff
hollow shell
it's not important
hollow shell
Anyway what the heck were we talking about
Multiple suggestion channels?
Sure you can post that
I don't think it's ever hit the star req, afaik, but you can try
hot zephyr
You've got my star, if it's written well enough.
ashen warren
Perhaps including something about having separate star requirements for them could help, but then again maybe not idk
ashen warren
But how can you know unless you try?
hollow shell
That is indeed quite a strange thing to say
ashen warren
Canāt hurt to try
hot zephyr
It's something new, which is a virtue in the sea of blue checkmarks.
Or at least, it isn't the same reposts cycled throughout that channel.
teal ibex
b-but the- y'know, nvm 
hollow shell
sea
One or two per day
lost agate
ĀÆ\_(ć)_/ĀÆ
ashen warren
Suddenly CrabBar
tired haven
This idea about separating suggestions made me think of recycle containers for plastic, paper, glass, such things
hollow shell
heh, except we're going in reverse
From single-stream to separated
tired haven
(which is rather ironic)
ashen warren
In a good or bad way? Or is it just a popped into my head moment
ashen warren
Itās midknight where I live so Iāmma dip, gn yāall
(Get it? Midknight. Cuz, cuz... damnit, never mind)
lost agate
Bye
hollow shell
cya
lost agate
Anyway i just think that theres a lot of stuff suggested and a lot of people just want their thing to be added
Which is a fair desire but like
There can be 5-20 suggs a day
Just imagine how crazy it would be add to all that on updates that tend to take months
hollow shell
I do think it would be legitimately impossible to implement all posted suggestions, easily impossible. Even if you did nothing but program all day.
And it'd be highly improbable and very time-consuming to implement all delivered suggestions, even
digital saddle
I'm still trying to think of ways to rework Raiders Talisman away from pre stacking.
It's really difficult. I've had a lot of ideas but none of them stand out as particularly elegant solutions. Keeping the functionality relatively simple, maintaining the flexibility of it, and making it stay somewhat true to the original design all together are pretty challenging
hollow shell
Yeah, fair enough. Game design is indeed hard.
Thank you for trying, though
lost agate
(also kind of unrelated and a bit of a late response but saying "people dont know what they want and shouldnt be trusted" is kinda shooting yourself in the foot but thats beside the point now)
hollow shell
(m I was tempted to mention that in the moment)
lost agate
Anyway, i dont think raiders needs to drive away from stacking
Since thats an effect thats not so used
Would be a shame to just throw it away
hollow shell
Well the motivation was that
the meta devolves into farming for crits for a very long period of time after every death
(when attempting boss fights)
lost agate
Then maybe the stacking needs to wear off as time passes
glossy falcon
Less stacks, more stats from stacks, decay when out of fight
hollow shell
Maybe, yeah
If the stacking limit was much smaller too
Instead of being fucking 150 crits
glossy falcon
I'd say divide the stack limit by 10 and multiple the stats given by 10 but that might be too specific for a suggestion
tired haven
Yeah if it was made decaying over time but boosted by crits faster then it could work
Albeit that pretty much enforces crit meta if there is no opposite accs to encourage base dmg
hollow shell
Yeah you shouldn't use exact numbers in a suggestion
glossy falcon
Then it'd be more of a boss/farming accessory
lost agate
Or just a "heat of action" kind of thing
hollow shell
I don't think we need to worry too much about metas considering it's a really early accessory
Well, maybe
The max damage boost of current Raider's is 15%, as much as Rogue Emblem
which is pretty good
lost agate
Metas are always bound to happen, and its nice as long as its not just use a single thing and win
Imo if a meta require a more specific method its good
Because it feels deserved ya know
hollow shell
m
The more complex and difficult it is to maximize performance, the better
tired haven
I just feel like if it's raising questions like "should I use x or y in this fight/with this weapon" then it's decent design
tired haven
So far raiders is monopoly for rogue dmg prehm
lost agate
With its whooping 30% dmg on a single potion because h
hollow shell
m
Raider's should probably have a max damage boost of like 10%
and have it be quicker to get but more fleeting
lost agate
Yeah that sounds right
hollow shell
I liked the fading idea...
although, considering how Terraria fights work, you're always going to be refreshing your crits
tired haven
Well, it's for the heated boss battles mostly, not occasional mobs
lost agate
I mean, early crits can be hard to get
hollow shell
Making it stealth strikes instead would be good
because you actually need to go out of your way to get those
but... early stealth strikes?
Fuck that
tired haven
Absolute pain
But to be entirely fair
It could require just 1
glossy falcon
Do stealth strikes only work at 100% stealth, like do you only get one then have to wait again?
hollow shell
Yes
glossy falcon
OOf
hollow shell
(until you get Ruin Medallion in Hardmode)
tired haven
So you just get, say, 10 seconds of boost to regular rogue attacks after a stealth strike
pulsar jay
ā
tired haven
Who knows
pulsar jay
i always thought that was a hilarious quirk and should stay
tired haven
I believe it's iconic at this point
lost agate
I mean it kinda ruins the feeling so i can understand why
hollow shell
I think another fix is planned for this update?
pulsar jay
yeah it'd be really awkward to touch his head and then have him say one thing
it takes all the funny out
pulsar jay
it's really not funny on it's own
pulsar jay
ooh edgy!
lost agate
It also makes it feel like its badly made
pulsar jay
glossy falcon
DoG is a massive weeb
pulsar jay
dog speaks like an incel
hollow shell
DoG is totally a weeb, dude
lost agate
Like imagine fighting a boss thats supposed to be important and his dialogue gets stuck
pulsar jay
imagine fighting a boss and then they yell at you for not avoiding their attacks...?
tired haven
using dialogue to make battle serious is a dead horse anyway, ngl
pulsar jay
what the fuck aren't you trying to win?
lost agate
Wat
pulsar jay
unless "WHY DIDN'T YOU DODGE" was removed
hollow shell
It was, that wasn't DoG. That was DoU
pulsar jay
ohhh
pulsar jay
no wonder he was removed
lost agate
No i mean like
pulsar jay
lost agate
Just imagine this scenario in another game
Actually lemme use an example for an existing game
pulsar jay
this is the same mod that contains cirrus so idk man
tired haven
Terraria doesn't follow the rules of logic so we all are doomed regardless
lost agate
Its not the same to have an intended joke and a bug thats taken like a joke
hollow shell
Time to dance on the ceiling and eat Ronald McDonald's nose.
lost agate
im kinda lost here
pulsar jay
if they said it was intentional I'd Believe them
tired haven
eat mcdonalds nose
The quote raises up from my mind:
"It is funny, because it's unexpected"
hollow shell
Funnily enough there was a reason I said that specifically but I won't tell you
lost agate
Lets imagine idk
hollow shell
It is partially intentional
lost agate
Hollow knight from you know... Hollow knight
hollow shell
It is intentional in the sense that it is a bug that they kept because it was funny
subtle oracle
He calls you a pussy
Man i never knew DoU did that, well unfortunately that boss lasted for literally ONE version
hollow shell
nah he doesn't that was just hyperbole
pulsar jay
imagine a giant worm bites you and then says 6 things at the exact same time
lost agate
Would it be funny? Maybe
glossy falcon
I completely missed DoU so I'm not sure who you're talking about.
lost agate
Would it also ruin the feeling? Yup
subtle oracle
Devourer of Universes
hollow shell
DoG isn't meant to be a joke boss
glossy falcon
I figured that was his name
tepid root
radiance dabs
lost agate
Yes
pulsar jay
this could've been fixed by not being a worm boss but what are you gonna do
hollow shell
His character is edgy but he's not supposed to be laughed at really
lost agate
That has nothing to do with being a worm boss
pulsar jay
the dev is secretly a worm he's represneting his demographic
lost agate
Wot
hollow shell
Also nah it has nothing to do with him being a worm boss, funnily enough
pulsar jay
i think it's easier to make something powerful when it's not a worm
hollow shell
Oh you meant that
pulsar jay
worms have specific physics they must obey
glossy falcon
He's the cringy kind of edgy that makes people laugh at him and not take him seriously
pulsar jay
and it kinda limits them
lost agate
I mean
hollow shell
(People still do find DoG hard yknow)
tired haven
tbh it is still less limitation than grounded bosses
pulsar jay
well yeah
lost agate
The guy literally teleports
pulsar jay
everything is less limiting than a ground boss
hollow shell
He gave me a harder time than Providence, that's for sure
tepid root
the teleport doesnt make it harder tbh
pulsar jay
slime god (at his tier) was harder
pulsar jay
in my opinion atleast
lost agate
Yeah but like
subtle oracle
Back in 2017, I found Dog to be more difficult than Scal with his second form
But i was pretty dumb back then
lost agate
Supposedly worm bosses cant teleport but look
pulsar jay
the only reason i died so many times is because I don't really understand worm physics
subtle oracle
With how the mod works
tired haven
I can only imagine game dev saying "You are grounded!" to some boss and it just goes 
lost agate
Also what are this worm physics
hollow shell
anyway I don't think this convo means anything anymore
lost agate
What did i miss
Its just a head with a npcs that follow him when tf did that get physics
pulsar jay
can crim/corroslime minions go back to having eyes?
why was that changed
it was cute
pulsar jay
fair
you know what'd be Fresh
instead of making demon wings, what if they had a mini core possess them to fly
hollow shell
Could be fun
pulsar jay
seems too small for me to suggest though
tired haven
Yeah, it'd be barely visible so might confuse people
(altho does sound fitting quite a lot)
pulsar jay
was that a bad dad joke or did you think i meant it in a different way
tired haven
The latter, I suppose
pulsar jay
i meant it seems like a really small change to be suggesting
tired haven
Yeah, figured
strange otter
Omg is that crabbar
ashen warren
no its the fake one
pulsar jay
... yeah
teal ibex
omg crabbar autograph? 
tepid root
is this the real heqtice
ashen warren
is this lena raine
split narwhal
new sugg from me
Make elysian guard more useful;
Currently elysian guard just doesn't seem very good:It only lasts 5 seconds, the damage and crit bonus decreases over the duration of the buff;This means you have to refresh the buff constantly to get any use out of it, which makes it really not worth using. Having the buff be at infinite duration and the bonuses no longer decrease would make it more viable.
thoughts?
zenith hazel
doesn't elysian guard last forever?
ashen warren
the only thing that lasts for 5 seconds that's elysian aegis is the holy flames debuff
split narwhal
the wiki said it only lasted 5 secs so I dunno
tired haven
In fact, wiki says it's infinite
ashen warren
K
split narwhal
I don't know what's going on there
tired haven
also basing your suggestions off the wiki and not actual gameplay is quite a lost case
5 seconds is likely innate duration for the infinite refresh of the buff
tired haven
where did you get the "get weaker" part btw? pure curiosity
ashen warren
Using enhanced buff icons doesn't show it constantly refreshing that way, it behaves more like campfire or smth
the stuff that constantly refreshes on a certain timer would be the calamity candles
tired haven
Ah, right
split narwhal
Seems like it's outdated
tired haven
That's true for the activation moment
Offensive stats do rise gradually for about 2 seconds, while movement debuff kicks in immediately
Unless I read it wrong too
split narwhal
But since it's infinite duration there is no such thing as decreasing stats overtime right?
ashen warren
it shouldn't decay, no
tired haven
It shouldn't be, ye
split narwhal
I was fooled by the wiki
tired haven
wiki, the deceiver of fools
tired haven
Mayhaps
Probably just adding a trivia on the buff page could do
Something along the lines of "Despite the buff duration not being infinite, Elysian Aegis and Asgardian Aegis that provide the buff make it infinite for as long as the effect is activated"
split narwhal
That should work
split narwhal
well, I suppose I could, but I don't want to expose my IP
I don't have an account there so yeah
vast stirrup
make account
ashen warren
i don't know if this sounds okay but I highly think it is better to rework slime god to summon the ebonian and the crimslime god separately based on its hp
For death mode, the slime god core is currently invulnerable unless you kill the big slimes. I would suggest to take the invulnerability mechanic from the twins fight where if the core reaches a certain health, it becomes invulnerable and you can only damage the big slime it summoned.
pulsar jay
Replace the statigel summoner's baby slime god into a core. The buff icon represents a core and is seperate from the rest of the slimes despite being the exact same thing. It's also rather unfitting for a set bonus, considering summons from set bonuses are generally they're own thing and not an extra of an already existing minion. Also slimes are kinda clunky and a flying summon would be better for WoF and early hm.
If this can't be done, it'd also work if it just removed the minion and gave statigel an extra minion slot, so that the mini doesn't needlessly consume a buff slot
bitter drift
yes, and make it shoot those orbs
digital saddle
I thought the dog message spam was a bug
ashen warren
Yeh itās been a thing for years, and I guess devs are on the brink of giving up and calling it a feature
Feel free to call me out if Iām wrong
Plaguebringer Goliath resprite...
fervent citrus
oh
lost agate
yes thats what resprite means
tawny garden
This talk should be in another channel
lost agate
:perhaps:
digital saddle
ashen warren
I fear no man
But that thing
#calamity-mod-talk
It scares me
cyan lagoon
blazing dawn
OH THANK GOODNESS
jaunty isle
whoo can't wait to finally be able to see my stealth be track with bar instead just hearing the little dink
ashen warren
wiki suggestion:
add baguette to dedicated content page
ashen warren
i should learn how to do wiki stuff
terse sundial
now you have contrib so you can learn how to do wiki stuff