suggestions-discussion

[foggy plover]

all the things that use cores are mostly post plant

[sand umbra]

THAT'S THE THING OF IT
ECTOPLASM ITSELF IS HUGE

[distant gyro]

and perennial

[hollow saffron]

ectoplasm is the key to life - calamity

[keen geyser]

okay no more OT from me

[foggy plover]

I feel like cores would be interesting if maybe they dropped from respective mech alt bosses

rather than the souls being dropped

[cobalt rose]

the wiki also doesn't state what the 3 behaviors of CV's dark energies are, and knowing them might help me discern why the battle takes so much time (for me)

[foggy plover]

craft certain weapons themed after the element of the alt bosses

because the connection seems so random that you just enhance them with ectoplasm

[hollow saffron]

dark energies = illusioner

[hollow shell]

I guess this is a matter of
gameplay is prolly more welcome than thematics

Better to give you more reason to beat Golem and stop Plantera from being a massive doorway

[foggy plover]

cryogen and brimmy already drop essences

[sand umbra]

Ectoplasm is literally the key to like two dozen different things

which bothers me

[keen geyser]

ectoplasm = spectre gear

[sand umbra]

Plantera alone should not spike the content amount that much, if you want my honest opinion

[keen geyser]

spectre gear pre-plant is nuts

[hollow saffron]

ectoplasm is such a useful item thats the thing

[foggy plover]

plant isnt the problem, ectoplasm is

[hollow saffron]

and you cant nerf/move a lot of the stuff related to it

because that could cause power scaling issues

[sand umbra]

is this a challenge I hear?

[distant gyro]

you mean, ectoplasm aside, plantera does not unlock a lot of content?

[foggy plover]

ectoplasm, perennial stuff, core stuff, great sand shark stuff, living shard stuff

it kinda does lul

ectoplasm is a lot of stuff

[hollow shell]

also all the direct buffed Dungeon drops

[foggy plover]

^ that too

[distant gyro]

Living Shards, Abyss w/o clone defeated, Dungeon loot, Great Sand, Eclipse T3, Festive Moons, Irrelevant Witch Doctor sales, Perennial, Autohammer

[sand umbra]

also

Solar Veils + Abyss if Clonamitas isn't killed, for no reason whatsoever
and Shroomite (Truffle sells Autohammer)

[foggy plover]

oh yeha I Forgot abyss stuff

moons is p useless for most, and so is eclipse

[distant gyro]

Solar Veil

[hollow shell]

wdym "for no reason whatsoever"?
Umbraphile is rogue's post-Plant armor, like Spectre and Shroomite

[sand umbra]

then can you please express to me why it is post-Clonamitas

[distant gyro]

Defective Spheres. Mothron Wings. The Eye of Cthulhu.

[sand umbra]

Solar Veils drop after Clone too

[hollow shell]

Calamitas is sometimes Plant alt

[cobalt rose]

^

[hollow shell]

... sometimes

[cobalt rose]

did you forget that

[sand umbra]

I didn't

[foggy plover]

to me it doesnt seem like it

most of it is still plant locked

[sand umbra]

beating Clone unlocks a whopping two things

both of which are also unlocked by beating Plantera, who is arguably easier and unlocks 100 other things as well

[foggy plover]

yeah, it seems like you kill clone, a much harder boss, to get some great abyss weapons that shred plantera

[hollow shell]

uhh ohh hang on a second
What's this convo about

What're we doing here

[distant gyro]

yes

[foggy plover]

plantera power spike I think

[sand umbra]

aaaand this is the part where I shut up before I go rambling again and get yelled at because of it

[foggy plover]

good point rover, doesnt exactly belong here anymore as it stopped pertaining to any suggestion

[queen sail]

:byeah:

[distant gyro]

using tracing skills, the topic was moving plague to plant

(gone wrong as usual)

[cobalt rose]

thomas totally sounds like a professional VG critic sometimes i swear

[queen sail]

Thomas is the guy™

[sand umbra]

the difference being that I actually do my research on the things I'm being a critic for beforehand

[queen sail]

I am not providing context on what I mean by the guy™

Because there is no context

[sand umbra]

[cobalt rose]

you still rant as much as one though

[sand umbra]

ye

[foggy plover]

rn im just trying to think of ways to make post-plant less bustling

[hollow shell]

I don't think it's too much of an issue

Plant's a major boss

Its got a role

[cobalt rose]

i can hear thomas screaming

[elder mist]

yes clone is being nerfed thomas

soontm

[hollow shell]

you got Skele you got WoF you got Plant you got ML you got DoG then you got... Yharon/SCal, wherever you wanna define the end as

[elder mist]

so dw about it being 100 times harder than plont

[sand umbra]

damn right you can
so, real talk

would there be any opposition to me potentially suggesting that Solar Veils and Abyss stuff happen specifically post-Clonamitas
because as of right now, post-Plantera imo unlocks entirely too much entirely too quickly

[ruby cobalt]

yes

[elder mist]

doesnt clone already unlock hm abyss

[ruby cobalt]

she does

[hollow shell]

There would prolly be opposition

[sand umbra]

well yes

Plantera also unlocks both of these things

[elder mist]

because it's meant to be either one or the other

[karmic stone]

Clone unlocks x while Plant unlocks x and y

[foggy plover]

What is your guys thoughts on moving great sand shark to post golem?

[lost agate]

how do you even say if its too slow or too fast when all she unlocks happens on death?

[foggy plover]

solves the sand sharknado problem as well

[distant gyro]

Sure

[elder mist]

but when that was the case, people killed clone (because it's said that clone is pre plant) and then terra weapons vs plant

[karmic stone]

With y being alot and x would be nice for Clone to have

[elder mist]

instantly killed plant

[ruby cobalt]

you can get one if you want an easier time with the other

[elder mist]

so that got moved to post plant

[lost agate]

am i missing a death animation or smth

[distant gyro]

Great Sandshark thematically sounds earth-ly

[sand umbra]

shucks pls

[lost agate]

ok sorry

[hollow shell]

(Duke is still post-Golem according to intended progression, Chill Dude)

[distant gyro]

Not farfetched to make them post lolem

[foggy plover]

yeah ik but it at least moves it 3 bosses closer

[ruby cobalt]

shhhhh shucks, stay out of this, let dungeon handle it

[foggy plover]

tbh would also make ballistic poison bomb and sandstorm in a bottle further away too, as theyre mildly similar weapons

[lost agate]

ok im leaving but not because you told me but because i gotta do something rq

[hollow shell]

baka

[ruby cobalt]

❤️

[elder mist]

weeabry begone

[lost agate]

[ashen warren]

I dont know why are you talking about this,

I think post plantera stuff is gud

[foggy plover]

Yeah it is fine, its just so much stuff at one time, lot of grinding (same can be said about going into hardmode I guess)

[elder mist]

wait is there actually a lot of grinding

[foggy plover]

Both things are kinda not helpable tho because of vanilla

[elder mist]

you already grinded for abyss weapons to kill plantera, post plantera you really only grind ectoplasm

since plont itself drops living shards

[foggy plover]

each class has different amounts of grinding

imma stop now, cuz yet again it doesnt really pertain to anything

[elder mist]

🤨

ok

[ashen warren]

Idk I start playing 2 months ago and I only playing as ramger

[lost agate]

Actually i wanna count how many sets get unlocked by plant that isnt the boss drops

Or that arent unlocked by clone

[elder mist]

perennial, spectre, shroomite, thats it?

[tepid root]

sand shark

[elder mist]

that has a set?

[lost agate]

I more so want to see what each set benefits to what class

[tepid root]

wait

dumb me

[hallow kraken]

tiki?

[elder mist]

[tepid root]

spooky

[lost agate]

I wasnt really speaking armor, my bad

[elder mist]

o

[lost agate]

Just gimme a sec

[elder mist]

personally i dont mind because it's like plantera is the DoG of hardmode, unlocking a ton of gear (powerful, too) to have that feeling of warmth inside getting a significant jump in power

[lost agate]

I mean yeah thats true

DoG isnt exactly a gateway boss either so seems like a proper comparison

[umbral mulch]

The only problem I have is plantera is a bit too easy

[lost agate]

So is wof if you have a good enough arena

[hallow kraken]

I mean they’re also similar because they both oppress summoners with no good weapons after defeat

[umbral mulch]

Plantera arenas are a big-ish box with a platform in the middle

And you don't go under that platform or death in the form of bouncing spikes come

[hollow saffron]

^

[lost agate]

Wof arena is a big-ish bridge

[hollow saffron]

plantera is circle strat simmulator

[lost agate]

But anyway thats beyond the point

[umbral mulch]

All you do is circle her

And she dies

Once you have that arena anyway

[keen geyser]

wof arena is water walking pots and bombing some houses

[umbral mulch]

And it's not even that hard to set up

WoF at least takes teraforming half of hell in some way

[lost agate]

Weapons are important too

So not only the arena kills her but whatever

[umbral mulch]

I killed her with flarewing and holy arrows with pre mech gear

The only difference is it took a bit longer

That was before I even found out about the arbalest existing or barinautical

[lost agate]

remember how i said i would list the sets and see what is useful for what class?

[sand umbra]

are you here to do that now

[lost agate]

well scratch that cuz i just now realized half of that list is me saying "summoner doesnt need it"

[sand umbra]

...idle realization: Summoner gets three sets post-Plantera

[void kelp]

OWA?

[sand umbra]

those being Spooky, Tiki, and Reaver meme

[void kelp]

...I just spelled one with W

[sand umbra]

nop, OOA T3 is on Golem, not Plantera

[void kelp]

ohh

[gusty geode]

I don't consider Spooky post-Plant personally
Considering how much harder it is to get than the other options

[sand umbra]

...that makes no sense

if anything Tiki is the hardest to get because its requirements are actually stupid

Spooky just requires the systematic genocide of Mourning Wood

which you'll honestly do easily enough with Reaver backing you up

[lost agate]

doesnt other enemies drop the wood too?

[sand umbra]

...mmmmmaybe? I'd have to check

[void kelp]

basically all enemies drop it ye

[lost agate]

other enemies in the event i mean

[tepid root]

splinterlings? i think?

[void kelp]

not locked to miniboss

[sand umbra]

Splinterlings

and that's it

only Splinterlings and Mourning Wood

(and you get a ton more of it from the latter either way)

but like. you can get Spooky armor without ever killing a Pumpking, even

[gusty geode]

Get an item from Plant that, as a summoner, you'd be after anyway
Have the Witch Doctor move into a house in the jungle, which if you know how the NPC works (or you wanted Leaf Wings when you just entered Hardmode) you would've already done
And then buying it

[lost agate]

tiki staff sucks tho

[sand umbra]

remind me who unironically buys Leaf Wings again

[gusty geode]

Me
Better than the ones the Dryad sells
And they look nice

[sand umbra]

Dryad doesn't sell wings

[lost agate]

so i dont see who would be after the tiki staff even as summoner

cuz its a grounded summon that misses half the time

[sand umbra]

also byeah Pygmy Staff is a grounded summon

(although, now that I think of it, considering that many post-Plantera enemies are grounded, that may not be such a bad thing)

[gusty geode]

Thought she did
Or was that a mobile only thing
I remember the Dryad selling some at some point
Sparkly Wings or something

[sand umbra]

Sparkly Wings are on old-gen console and 3DS during a Hardmode Blood Moon

[gusty geode]

Eef

[zenith hazel]

regarding the glowing mushrooms sugg, doesn’t crabulon already drop a ton of them anyway

you can pretty much arma farm it pretty easily by the time you have access to shroomite bars

[gusty geode]

We still going on about that
Another source is always nice
Plus one that works with Zerg/is afkable, if that's valid

[sand umbra]

not everything needs to be AFKable

say it with me now

[raven moth]

it with me now

[sand umbra]

because it's the truth
you absolutely should not be able to get everything just by sitting in one spot for an hour

[lost agate]

ok but still why on earth doesnt the glowing mushroom doods drop no mushroom?

like they are all over their body

[sand umbra]

I mean yeah it makes sense logically

[raven moth]

but this is Terraria we are talking about

[sand umbra]

I'd just appreciate if that thematical fit was actually used as a reason rather than "oh because it can be easily farmed/AFK'd/Zerg'd"

[gusty geode]

I did in the actual sug
I personally don't consider it a good reason but others might

[sand umbra]

theming and gameplay both need to be accounted for, imo

[elder mist]

lore begone

we all care about gameplay

@ mrrp

oh wait should i @ seraph instead hmmmmm

[swift bison]

[ashen warren]

[teal ibex]

@ me instead i complained for months until king slime got lore

[elder mist]

ur complaining got us one of the best utility lores tbh

+jump speed

[teal ibex]

ur welcome

that might've been ozz's idea i don't recall actually

[umbral mulch]

ngl I hang onto slime king for the whole game

[lost agate]

btw that latest suggestion kind of confuses me

[queen sail]

I’m not sure anyone here understands what it’s talking about

Ein tried to

[gusty geode]

Honestly I have a feeling the only reason he wasn't warned for that is cuz he's a patreon donator

[sand umbra]

my question is why it hasn't been yeeted, it makes no sense and the idea we can draw from it is a don't

[valid swallow]

can someone explain the last suggestion, i cant read it that well

[wide flicker]

nobody can

[cobalt rose]

can someone delete it already?

[gusty geode]

Tldr remove non-linearity by making bosses not drop anything until the one before it has been beaten

[valid swallow]

thats not a smart idea

[gusty geode]

Nobody knows why that first part is there or what it has to do with the rest of it

[valid swallow]

thats the thing that was confusing me

but imagine

[sand umbra]

having to fight Siren and Levi before Aureus or Golem

[radiant meadow]

yes

I deleted it

[valid swallow]

polterghast before DoG

[sand umbra]

thank you, gamer

[valid swallow]

thanks

[radiant meadow]

also deleted the item frame suggestion

because that's not possible

[tepid root]

make bosses that are spawned in daytime be able to spawned anytime itll be easier to not make bosses require other bosses (?????????)

thats what i can get from the sugg

[valid swallow]

that makes no sense

[tepid root]

correct

[hollow shell]

Ah, he was pinged shortly after posting and didn't respond
Time to add to the list! It's been a while

[teal ibex]

if you're ever having a dry spell rover i can post a suggestion that you unsuccessfully ping me about

[lost agate]

wait a minute

[hollow shell]

That won't be necessary.

[lost agate]

why would that kind of suggestion get you warned wha

[teal ibex]

VERy true

[lost agate]

being patreon has nothing to do with it

[valid swallow]

its to stop badly thought suggestions/oversaid suggestions

[sand umbra]

making a bad sugg doesn't get you warned

look at me, for example, several of mine have (albeit unintentionally) started firefights in this very channel--

[hollow shell]

it's a miracle you're not muted

[sand umbra]

indeed

[queen sail]

At least you weren’t as angry as one of mine, thomas

[teal ibex]

we need to get anger-healing-juice for #suggestions-discussion

[queen sail]

Mine wasn’t even in #suggestions-discussion

It was just

A very aggressive sugg

[zealous ridge]

i feel like that kind of sentiment is fueled by a lot of things

frustration, witchhunting, scapegoating

its not really a problem specific to suggestions discussion, its a problem that happens in many communities in general

as to working to help it, its hard to say

[sand umbra]

in essence
there's a reason I always ask nowadays if there are any objections to suggs I'm about to post

[zealous ridge]

i feel like encouraging genuine balance discussion rather than idea slander would certainly help (not to say it has gotten to that point, but reactions can certainly tone down)

[sand umbra]

and that reason is the fact that several of mine have caused mini-World Wars in here in the past

[zealous ridge]

and yeah, that's not entirely your fault, thomas

sure, you might uhhh

meme hard

on a certain balance idea you see baffling

[sand umbra]

I will admit, it's partially on my end

I have a tendency to ramble and to often highball solutions that should be incredibly simple

[zealous ridge]

but other people's reactions are just as important, too, i guess is what im trying to say

[teal ibex]

what makes me want to jump directly onto a lego brick is the vast array of people that speak exclusively in overexaggerated generalizations and it hurts me directly in my bones

"literally nobody does x" "x is completely useless" "x is so broken that nothing else matters"

[zealous ridge]

also, sorry if this may be offtopic (i feel like it pertains to suggestions, but if it needs to be taken elsewhere, id understand)

[teal ibex]

no, shut up, you're dumb and can't formulate opinions without coming off in the most pretentious possible manner

[zealous ridge]

[sand umbra]

I used to do that a lot

[teal ibex]

that is an addition to my comment and not a response to yours btw

just to be clear

[zealous ridge]

lmao yeah i know

[ashen warren]

woah, the fuck is this animosity?

[sand umbra]

hell I'm pretty certain I still do and I hate the fact that I do
I get too fired up about things way too quickly

[teal ibex]

it's the topic of discussion atm

#suggestions-discussion animosity and what perpetuates it

[zealous ridge]

yeah, i think people just need to keep their heads about them, so to speak

[teal ibex]

fired up can be fine it's just also important to not have it influence your rationalizing

[sand umbra]

mhm

[ashen warren]

oh

u good Hec rn?

[teal ibex]

and even then, i think as long as it's not like. the core of how you act it's not that bad

yeah i'm fine LOL mostly just venting my frustrations about how people conduct themselves in certain circumstances

in a slightly egregious manner because irony can be a joy to toy with

[ashen warren]

i mean, people can only express their opinions in certain wasy in which that they don't or CAN'T know any better

but i fell ya Hec

[teal ibex]

i'm not too worried about the opinions they form, but rather that they form them and, particularly, express them in ways that are reasonable towards others.

constantly making extreme, unbalanced, and unsubstantiated claims -- especially based upon your own experience in exclusivity -- is what drives me up the wall

[ashen warren]

understandable

[gusty geode]

I've also had problems here in the past

Problem with no easy fix is being discussed
Propose idea that fixes problem but takes a lot of work on the devs' part
Devs respond with memes

[teal ibex]

you should be trying to work with people to come to a conclusion about a subject. that means sometimes sacrificing what you perceive the truth to be to hear what others have to say

[zealous ridge]

Is that a list of sequencial events, BOS?

hmm

[teal ibex]

so when people come in with the largest metaphorical cowboy pants available and start rootin' tootin' shootin' opinions around like "this item has never been used ever" or "this mechanic doesn't have any positive upsides" or "levi dash has no redeeming qualities" i become the big not happy in any way shape or form

[wide flicker]

The whole point of a discussion is understanding what the others mean for the sake of coming to a conclusion

[gusty geode]

Yeah
Happens a lot
Especially when it's about summoner

[ashen warren]

absolutely, yet sadly different opinons could usually lead to conflicts on whether they believe what is right

but if you're not feelin happy rn, just lay down for a minute plox

[zealous ridge]

devs responding with just memes is like

kind of annoying

but its not an end all be all i think

[teal ibex]

oh no i'm completely level LOL, i just don't express negativity often so when i do it's usually cranked up for what i only hope to be perceived as comedic relief

devs are allowed to respond with memes

one thing that is frequently completely lost upon suggestors is the idea of scope

[zealous ridge]

i think most devs are good about straigtening out what they mean

[radiant meadow]

we're actually robots with no emotion

[gusty geode]

Like
It's fine, I'm not mad at them by any means
They just acknowledge the problem and then dismiss a real solution

[teal ibex]

if your suggestion lacks a reasonable understanding of the scope of the mod, you should expect to receive negative criticism regarding such a thing

woah woah woah. it sounds like you're blaming the devs for not wanting to take on enormous workloads?

[zealous ridge]

yeah, im not saying that isn't valid hect

im not really saying its a major problem either, if you misunderstood

again i feel like devs are good about clarifying what they feel is wrong with a sugg

[teal ibex]

it is not the devs' responsibility to grant you validation for your suggestions. it is your responsibility to develop suggestions that are warranting their approval

[radiant meadow]

what kind of problem is acknowledged and dismissed?

[gusty geode]

Often times an enormous workload is the only option

[ashen warren]

why dismissed? lmao

[teal ibex]

i would say there are rarely issues that are important enough to be resolved that would require extreme workloads. being pertinent and resource effective is a key component of game design and knowing how to maneuver such an idea is a skillset in and of itself.

[lost agate]

termi could decide to not say anything at all

[zealous ridge]

bru h

[lost agate]

but he at least wants to speak here

[radiant meadow]

speaking here is part of my moderator duties

[lost agate]

oh yeah

[zealous ridge]

im sorry if i came off as blaming the devs for not wanting to take on a difficult modding task, i wasnt really shooting for that

[ashen warren]

what made you think that you were "blaming the devs"?

[teal ibex]

wasn't directed at you in that regard

[zealous ridge]

ah

that's not what i picked up in BOS's case, then

i picked up on the whole "devs just meming on the problem rather than saying why they dont like it" thing, which i feel is a bit of a non-issue because the devs are pretty good at meming, but also at clairifying why they think an idea isnt good

[gusty geode]

Maybe I'm just making a big deal out of one issue
Since the only example I can think of is summoner
But at least there the point stands
Summoner can't truly be fixed without a total rework

[lost agate]

wait a minute

[teal ibex]

summoner needs options. it has the minimum possible to succeed atm and i'm sure it'll retain more as it progresses

[lost agate]

fixed what of summoner?

[sand umbra]

that's where I'd argue otherwise, actually

[radiant meadow]

we're literally adding several new summoner weapons next update

[ashen warren]

summoner is great, so you can focus more on dodging

[teal ibex]

dang ben tell me more 👀

[zealous ridge]

i do ask that you not take meming so personally, guys, its all just good fun and isnt meant to morally degrade the suggestor (if that's what youre worried about BOS)

[radiant meadow]

check out the test yourself Hec

[teal ibex]

ok i'm trying to get you to leak and you're not cooperating

[zealous ridge]

btw super excited for new summons

[radiant meadow]

smh

[teal ibex]

time to write one line of calamity code and get dev

[radiant meadow]

I will give a hint

[zealous ridge]

nono do not tell i want to be suprised

[ashen warren]

i have been thinkin about an endgame summon

[radiant meadow]

one of them is a suggested summon

[zealous ridge]

ooo

[ashen warren]

but that shits for post Scal

[teal ibex]

alright ben has officially narrowed it down to: any tier in the game

[gusty geode]

Ik ik
Probably came off as an ass with the meming part

[radiant meadow]

it was when specific items were still allowed

[ashen warren]

nice

[zealous ridge]

i have my own ideas

but i dont want to start a theory whirlwind

...does anyone remember when the devs revealed like a tornado made out of endothermic energy and there was RAMPANT speculation about what it was?

good times

[ashen warren]

feel free to express them, people should only respond in "constructive criticism"

[zealous ridge]

what, the summon i think they added?

[ashen warren]

what summon

[zealous ridge]

[sand umbra]

there are no summons
summoner does not exist

melee is the only class

[ashen warren]

^

[radiant meadow]

that's why I made new melee weapons for next update too

including one described as an ADHD younger brother

[valid swallow]

ranger is just melee from a range

[distant gyro]

[ashen warren]

u rite

[valid swallow]

mage is special melee

summoner is lazy melee

[gusty geode]

I think the problems I was aiming to fix when discussing a summoner rework were the targetting, lack of player interaction outside of dodging, and the lack of summons that do things besides attack

[ashen warren]

the summon i was talking about is a future patreon item i am thinkin about

[radiant meadow]

what's wrong with the summoner targetting system?

[zealous ridge]

hmm

[gusty geode]

From what I hear it doesn't always work
Could be wrong tho

[zealous ridge]

for me, there could be more interesting ideas around it imo

[radiant meadow]

All Calamity summons should support the targetting system

except Dreadmine staff, which I fixed next update

[gusty geode]

I've been working with unstable access to a computer/unstable computer for like 6 months now so I'm slightly uninformed

[zealous ridge]

that would require ai shifts not seen by the likes of any calamity devs thus far, however, so id understand retictence to an idea that reworks targeting

[ashen warren]

summons should have a better target system. Period.

[potent veldt]

I want to have a more emotional connection with my summons

I want to bully my summons

[gusty geode]

I had proposed having them target based on different stats
So they prioritize different kinds of enemies rather than a single one
Focusing a boss? Have them attack the enemy with the most health
Clearing away minions or doing an event? Have them target the most common enemy
And you could set different summons to prioritize different things, encouraging the use of multiple kinds of minions at once, and having more summons focusing on a certain thing based on the situation

[zealous ridge]

yeah i feel like targeting is somewhat shoehorned in (probably because it was added in a minor update), like i feel there could be more interesting ideas around it

im not saying it needs to happen immediately or at all, but i just feel it could be helped

example: combo attacks when a minion is targeted on an enemy

[valid swallow]

what about a summon that mind control weak enemies

[distant gyro]

next update introduces some interesting ideas to summons

[gusty geode]

That would be awesome ngl

[zealous ridge]

shweet

i like new summon ideas

[potent veldt]

Summons also could just generally have more interesting concepts

[valid swallow]

yeah

[potent veldt]

Since about 90% of them are just "this thing does damage"

[zealous ridge]

if you ask me, summon needs more weapon subclasses

[sand umbra]

funny monkey balloon game 6-style targeting would be neat

[potent veldt]

And almost nothing else

[distant gyro]

BTD6 targeting GOD

[sand umbra]

BTD series has a fair few neat concepts to draw from, tbf

[valid swallow]

i enjoy the stardust summons since they have a tiny bit of creativity

[gusty geode]

I remember once I also suggested making minions targetable/killable in exchange for having more at once but even I can tell that'd be near-impossible

[potent veldt]

Like I remember I think Thorium had it, but there was a summon in some mod where you could summon multiple differing types of spellbooks that shot their corresponding spell, like golden shower and book of skulls, etc.

And they all came from one book summoner that you could choose the summons of from

[sand umbra]

yes that's a Thorium summon

[potent veldt]

Like that shit's really interesting

[zealous ridge]

to me thorium has done the most for summoner from my limited experience

[potent veldt]

^^^

[ashen warren]

ahh, good ol Thorium

[valid swallow]

i think buff summons should stay in the realm of summons

[potent veldt]

Thorium is very unpolished, but hot shit they have a lot of interesting concepts

[zealous ridge]

new summon subclasses, more general content, ~~dps that rivals calamity rogue endgame ~~

[potent veldt]

Also yeah, I think buff summons should be expanded on

[distant gyro]

I recommend you people wait for the next update to see some cool gimmicks

[potent veldt]

Summons that don't do much damage but just do something else instead

[distant gyro]

tries not to leak

[valid swallow]

who doesnt tho

[sand umbra]

I mean, Calamity is unpolished too to a point, it's just that it's unpolished in different departments and to different extents

Thorium has a lot of really neat concepts with its weapons

[potent veldt]

Calamity is overall, more polished

[valid swallow]

summons that try to backstab stuff

[sand umbra]

in some departments

[potent veldt]

Are you suggesting we have a summon for the Spy from tf2

[sand umbra]

Calamity has a fair bunch going for it in the boss-fighting and endgame departments

[valid swallow]

yes

but not instakill

[sand umbra]

but Thorium excels moreso in the exploration and diversity/creativity fields

[ashen warren]

Calamity is made for like an overhaul of Teraria

[sand umbra]

no

Overhaul is a bad mod

[ashen warren]

not THat fuckin Overhaul

[zealous ridge]

youre memeing again thomas wake up

[valid swallow]

haul mode is the opimum way to play terraria

[zealous ridge]

(i really dont mind)

[potent veldt]

Thorium absolutely feels like someone had the plans for making a great indie game, but just didn't know how to code C# or anything, so they just said "fuck it" and put their ideas into a Terraria mod

[sand umbra]

and I'd hardly call Calamity for an "overhaul" of Terraria either way

[ashen warren]

Thorium is suppose to be like a new like major update to Terraria

different properties of one another

imo

[sand umbra]

ye

[potent veldt]

"Overhaul" implies that you fixed or changed already existing content

Calamity doesn't really do that, at least not all that much

Definitely not on the level of some other mods

[ashen warren]

both fuckin Great mods-- Change My Mind

[sand umbra]

/whistles innocently in the corner

actually now that I think about it

how did we get here

discussion-wise, I mean

[potent veldt]

I brought up Thorium summons

[wide flicker]

good question

[valid swallow]

we were talkin about summoner overhaul

[ashen warren]

lul

[zealous ridge]

eh i dont mind the shift of focus, we're getting productive ideas i think

[potent veldt]

I brought up Thorium summons and then everyone got excited

[valid swallow]

im just pullin ideas out of my head with no cohesion at all

[potent veldt]

As long as you do it skillfully

[valid swallow]

true

imagine a summon that acted as a secondary mana pool

[potent veldt]

Can I just summon the nurse

[valid swallow]

n o

[potent veldt]

And have her actually heal me, instead of being biased towards all the other npcs

[sand umbra]

so on the topic of summoner: something I thought up and might pitch a sugg about sometime is the idea of Familiars

these would be summoned either by very rare, special items or by wearing full select armor sets
they would have the ability to "level up" in sense, with a hardcap at level 10
at level 10 you'd be able to use some materials to..."gild" or "evolve" them, I guess?
they wouldn't be able to level up further but they'd gain new abilities and a greater stat boost
the level-ups wouldn't give too much of a boost, but enough to where they may actually become preferable to some normal summons

[valid swallow]

pokemon

[potent veldt]

Thomas has been saying it's pokemon for like

a month

[sand umbra]

I've told y'all before, my ideas to expand Summoner basically turn it into bootleg Pokemon

[potent veldt]

I want the "Do it with a copper shortsword!" of summons

[valid swallow]

lol

then we gotta add bootleg dynamax

kills scal in 3 hits

[potent veldt]

You know what would unironically be a interesting pre-boss summon idea

Copper shortsword

[valid swallow]

lol

[potent veldt]

As a summon

[wide flicker]

It could be interesting if you could send in your summon and use various buffs to boost it based on the situation

[valid swallow]

enchanted sword summon

[sand umbra]

then we gotta add bootleg dynamax
kills scal in 3 hits

time to ban familiars from nohits

[valid swallow]

lol

[sand umbra]

but like
the basic idea is there, I have some more thoughts on it but I don't wanna get too specific just in case I end up pitching a sugg about it
just wanting to gauge interest

[potent veldt]

I think summons could use more interesting concepts other than "You exist because I said so"

Like, a buildup or anything could be interesting

[valid swallow]

yeah

maybe instead of slime staff, you get a summon token for 3 'types' of summons

[potent veldt]

I want a summon of every single enemy in terraria

[valid swallow]

and you upgrade it with boss material

eg: weapon type, critter type, enemy type

[radiant meadow]

brb adding a dynamax function to pyukumuku mount

[valid swallow]

lol

[wide flicker]

Maybe a summon that can switch to different "modes"

[radiant meadow]

followed by a Z-move

[valid swallow]

whats Z-move

[wide flicker]

Just nukes the entire map

[valid swallow]

and whats Pykumuku

[sand umbra]

I'm gonna need you to stop right there

[valid swallow]

is that a new type of undeafeatable charizard

ok

[sand umbra]

we are not going full Pokemon complete with constant power creep and an incomplete 'Dex

[valid swallow]

yeah

i just want the weapon enemies as summons

they have cool looking ai

[wide flicker]

Imagine if one got stuck in a boss and they tore it up by spinning

[valid swallow]

theyd be slow

[wide flicker]

It literally would be a weponized beyblade

[valid swallow]

yes

i want more summons like the stardust cell

ones that try to kill em with stacking debuffs

[potent veldt]

The clams do that

More or less

[valid swallow]

nice

[potent veldt]

Although, the clams have the worst tunnel vision of any summon in the game

[valid swallow]

either that or ones that ressurect killed enemies, like the ritual stone in skyrim

[potent veldt]

That sounds like it would be a nightmare to code

[valid swallow]

it probably is

[potent veldt]

Unless they'd resurrect enemies as a specific minion

[valid swallow]

that could work

[potent veldt]

Like, just a skeleton minion per 5 enemies or something

[valid swallow]

spirits

[sand umbra]

I mean, it could probably be done fairly easily if you look at it like Nekros' Shadows of the Dead ability from Warframe
where it resurrects a set selection of recently-killed enemies as temporary minions

[valid swallow]

yeah

[wide flicker]

Necromancer summon when

[valid swallow]

im imagining a necromancer sideclass that has to kill enemies without any summons

and having summons that arent permanant

[wide flicker]

That could be neat, but not viable for bosses

[gusty geode]

Most bosses have minions

[valid swallow]

yeah

[gusty geode]

Imagine sicking Cal's own brothers on her

[valid swallow]

and theyd have some kind of melee damage

[lost agate]

Except when they dont and youre fucked

[valid swallow]

lol

im imagining certain boss summons being resistant to lower level necromantic spells

maybe the summon weapons would have some kind of weak melee damage?

[gusty geode]

Only ones I can think of off-hand that don't are both Skeletrons, Twins (and even then you could fight one with the other), Yharon and Crab

Hey, there's an extra benefit to the subclass to encourage farming of bosses you wouldn't otherwise need
Use the boss to destroy the boss

[lost agate]

Are you suggesting this or are you making your own thing?

[terse rain]

Skeletons have hands, crab has shrooms that fall from the sky, and yharon has flame things that do things

[valid swallow]

im just throwin random ideas out so that i can make my bus trip less painful

[lost agate]

Aight

[valid swallow]

but necromancy could be an interesting idea, if not overpowered

pretty sure it would be difficult to code

[fervent citrus]

The problem with being able to craft the bloody worm scarf with a tinkerers workshop is that you can get it pre HM while it is intended to be crafted in HM, i say add a HM version for the workshop and add it to the draedons forge recipe

[cobalt rose]

or perhaps put ichor into the recipie?

[fervent citrus]

Maybe

[distant gyro]

souls of night

[fervent citrus]

But then, back to the pre HM craftable stuff

The regular workshop stays tho

[cobalt rose]

isnt it weird that the bloody worm scarf is clearly crimson themed, but the counterpart, the amalgamated brain, is a mix of both?

[fervent citrus]

Tru

[versed tundra]

The worm is corruption, though

[hollow shell]

Talkin about appearance.

[fervent citrus]

Also tru

[split jay]

Jesus i must have pissed off alot of people yesterday.
I didnt notice i made a typo, so i apologise for saying something dumb. This was more of my friends problem, he didnt like to fight bosses in spefic times. Not just Profane godess. But it was more of a nitpick thing because only like 3 bosses are day or night based.

Sorry in advance and ill try to think it over more next time.

[versed tundra]

3 bosses? But Vanilla alone has 5...

[split jay]

i cant really rember off the top of my head

[echo horizon]

yes

[quick ice]

Vanilla has 5 nighttime and 2 0 daytime bosses iirc

the rest are biome specific (Except Moon-Lord and Golem)

[terse rain]

King slime is neither

[quick ice]

isn't King Slime a day boss?

[terse rain]

King slime can be summoned any time anywhere

No

What’s the other day boss?

[quick ice]

Queen Bee

[terse rain]

Queen bee can also be summoned at any time and is biome specific

[quick ice]

she's summoned in the Jungle but doesn't go batshit/run away if you leave like the other biome bosses

[ashen warren]

you ever just

**

[green pumice]

@indigo fog what? xeroc armor does take luminite

its rouges lunar armor

[indigo fog]

i kow

know

[green pumice]

oh wait i got that wrong

i see

why am i extreme retard

sorry about that

[zenith hazel]

Recently delivered suggestions:
https://discordapp.com/channels/225030931008847874/263382359397761025/662753826243346432 @potent veldt 👍
https://discordapp.com/channels/225030931008847874/263382359397761025/662785330700877824 @ashen warren 👍
https://discordapp.com/channels/225030931008847874/263382359397761025/663415752992358400 @quick ice 👍
https://discordapp.com/channels/225030931008847874/263382359397761025/663247741807230995 @sand umbra 👍
https://discordapp.com/channels/225030931008847874/263382359397761025/663060815775006741 @potent veldt 👍
https://discordapp.com/channels/225030931008847874/263382359397761025/662924887307976704 @upbeat pebble 🚫
https://discordapp.com/channels/225030931008847874/263382359397761025/663154555759886346 @pine cove 🚫
https://discordapp.com/channels/225030931008847874/263382359397761025/661408892684730399 @vague laurel 👍
https://discordapp.com/channels/225030931008847874/263382359397761025/663446646788718595 @hallow kraken 🚫
https://discordapp.com/channels/225030931008847874/263382359397761025/663539260845981713 @split narwhal 👍

[keen geyser]

that's a lot of accepted sugmas

[quick ice]

they're not accepted

[keen geyser]

yeah they are

not added in

but accepted

[quick ice]

they have a high chance of getting in and the devs are interested

[warm rampart]

"👍 - The suggestion has been delivered and reviewed by the devs, and was approved by them. (This does not guarantee implementation, but it does improve the chances.)"

[keen geyser]

approved, accepted, tomato, tomahto

[quick ice]

my bad then, you right

[keen geyser]

pins save lives

[quick ice]

what are pins? yes they do, if only the newer-suggestions people read them

oh hey, here's an idea
Lore items drop chances in Config: Config option to enable lore-items dropping each time a boss is killed.
Why?: There's been plenty of suggestions from people who want a way to get the lore items in their world if they've lost them for some reason, and this would fulfill that suggestion without affecting other players who aren't affected by this

[vague laurel]

I would like that

[hollow saffron]

Yes

Also in multiplayer do all players who killed the boss get the lore item?

@frigid sphinx

[terse sundial]

please don't randomly ping devs

every player should receive a lore item in mp

[frigid sphinx]

[lost agate]

[hallow kraken]

heck

that’s

Welp, I guess the better solution would be to wait until more post-DoG summoner weapons are added

So I’m cool rn

[quartz hare]

[hallow kraken]

[gusty geode]

Sky
Peaceful

From my experience you can't go up there for more than 30 seconds without drowning in Harpies

[dense ferry]

True

[hallow kraken]

That only happens when you’re not farming feathers

[keen geyser]

if you're trying to mine yourself some iron from one of the planetoids, you get like 17 harpies

[hallow kraken]

bad idea: would it be better to make the brimstone armor summoner, as summoner is currently the only class without some form of armor obtainable after getting the pickaxe axe?

[ashen warren]

Pretty sure that's in frequent suggestions, Izzy.

[hallow kraken]

And rogue has umbraphile, even if that’s post-cal (right?)

[keen geyser]

ye

[hallow kraken]

summoner must suffer with daedalus until plantera

[keen geyser]

well

no

if you can dodge well enough you can just stick with spider tbh

unless daedalus gives more dmg, in which case ignore me

[hallow kraken]

I think daedalus is better

[keen geyser]

daedalus gives 8% dmg

spider gives 28%

[hallow kraken]

Also the crystal

[keen geyser]

also spider gives 3 slots as opposed to 2

[hallow kraken]

Also, even if spider’s a thing, it still doesn’t disprove the fact that summoner doesn’t have a chlorophyte tier armor set

[keen geyser]

yeah ik

i agree with giving them a set

and brimstone/unholy core would be a nice fit imo

[wooden wedge]

Yeah after spider it goes to spooky armor

And the spider armor is used for around 3 boss tiers

Iirc

[keen geyser]

spider as soon as hardmode starts

[frail mantle]

wait which brimstone armor

[keen geyser]

read sugmas

[wooden wedge]

It's spider armor until pre golem

[frail mantle]

oh you're talking about a suggestion

[keen geyser]

ye

it is the suggestion discussion chat

[frail mantle]

i thought you meant an in-game armor lmao

[sand umbra]

ae

[keen geyser]

my guy

[sand umbra]

I have been summoned to the list of recently delivered sugmas

[keen geyser]

maybe make the set bonus of the unholy core set bonus be like summoning brimlings

[hallow kraken]

woah cool you got a thumbs up

[sand umbra]

[lost agate]

Time to get coding with a placeholder sprite iirc

[keen geyser]

hmmst?

[ashen warren]

Gl Shucks

[lost agate]

The staff of hydra upgrade

[keen geyser]

o

[sand umbra]

summomeme time

[ashen warren]

Let’s just say it’s something pretty exciting

Dammit Thomas, was suppose to be a fuckin secret

[lost agate]

He suggested it so its not a secret lol

[sand umbra]

byeah

[wooden wedge]

Why would you keep a suggestion a secret

[lost agate]

(also youre probably confusing it with smth else)

[hallow kraken]

summoner update hahayes

[sand umbra]

[prime turtle]

Make full guide for ranger mage and others, like rogue

Beacause I don't know what weapon I need to craft next

[keen geyser]

bruh

class setups on the wiki

[wooden wedge]

@prime turtle https://calamitymod.gamepedia.com/Guide:Class_setups

[prime turtle]

Yeah but all guns and armours are in alphabetic

[frail mantle]

que

[wooden wedge]

Just ask in help and advice

I don't think the weapons are listed in a top to bottom order

Or any order whatsoever

[keen geyser]

all weapons you can/should have are listed in alphabetic order per thing

[prime turtle]

See? It's in alphabetic

[keen geyser]

what are you even looking at

open class setups

[wooden wedge]

I sent you a link though??

[keen geyser]

[frail mantle]

the class setups page displays what weapons, accessories and armor to use at what stage of the game

[keen geyser]

on the wiki, search for "Class Setups"

[prime turtle]

Yea, but it shows me that I need to play with jungle armour all pre-hardmode

[keen geyser]

yes because it's the best armour set

for mage pre-hardmode

[prime turtle]

Ah

Ok I trust you

[frail mantle]

it says that it's a viable option for all of pre-HM

[prime turtle]

Ty for help

[mellow bay]

well it really doesn't make sense the xeroc armor tier

it probably wasn't changed when moved to post ml

hold on

i forgot to add reason

[queen sail]

Commit reason

Or perish

[mellow bay]

die

[queen sail]

:echcease:

[mellow bay]

there

[lost agate]

i thought ice lasers already only had a chance to freeze you

[keen geyser]

i doubt that's the case

[lost agate]

which is mitigated by a warmth potion anyway

[keen geyser]

yeah

[mellow bay]

ice laser always freeze

[gusty geode]

Remind me again, do the lights on the Destroyer/Probes change color based on the phase
Still think that'd be a nice touch

[wooden wedge]

The sprite stays the same

The lasers change color

[mellow bay]

anything wrong on my suggestion?

[keen geyser]

i just feel like it's unnecessary

just chug a warmth pot for the ice lasers

[mellow bay]

i feel like rev destroyer is very painful

[keen geyser]

it really isn't as painful as people crown it

they forget about the existence of warmth pots and slime mount

and counterscarf dodge

[mellow bay]

i mean ❕ is used if a suggestion is rule breaking

[frail mantle]

not really

[night cradle]

it really doesn't mean anything

it's used if a suggestion hasn't been reviewed by a mod yet

[terse sundial]

just means we haven't reviewed it yet

[frail mantle]

it's removed if a mod finds it alright but people just use it as a downvote button

for some reason

[terse sundial]

I personally have no issue with the current Destoyer aside from the probes which will always just be annoying

[mellow bay]

http://prntscr.com/qlgtf4

[queen delta]

Then theres some people who use both the star and the exclamation point

[terse sundial]

a warmth potion can save you from the ice lasers

destroyer doesn't need a speed boost to compensate anything

[mellow bay]

on last phase

[terse sundial]

also, the number of lasers fired is massively decreased as the destroyer's health decrease

[wooden wedge]

People like touching the ❕

[terse sundial]

so the destroyer only fires like 8 green lasers at 30% health

which isn't much at all

[gusty geode]

Tbf
It's an easy way of saying "hey, this is a problem"

[terse sundial]

I do like the ice lasers not always inflicitng glaical state, but also it bugs me because that just adds more RNG to the fight

RNG in bossfights isnt good

[wooden wedge]

Some RNG can be good

[terse sundial]

not really

[keen geyser]

I like to use the exclamation point to tell the person "Yes I saw this but I don't agree with it"

[terse sundial]

inconsistency in boss fights is what makes or breaks a boss

[night cradle]

^

[terse sundial]

I would hate to lose to the destoryer because of a chance to get frozen

[karmic stone]

Remind me again, do the lights on the Destroyer/Probes change color based on the phase
Still think that'd be a nice touch
Last time this was discussed someone pointed out that this would completely fuck up TP's Destro iirc

[opal barn]

so instead you lose everytime because you get frozen everytime

[wooden wedge]

What's TP's destroyer?

[mellow bay]

i feel like destroyer needs a bit of a nerf

[keen geyser]

nah

disagree

[night cradle]

(texture pack destroyer)

[wooden wedge]

I like the destroyer as is

Ah I see

[keen geyser]

he has the difficulty that he should imo, if anything I think twins need to be slightly buffed to be on par with the other two.

[gusty geode]

I think RNG in bosses is good
Keeps the fight interesting by making the boss less predictable

Might not be the place for this actually

[lost agate]

bosses like hive mind have rng

cuz it would be quite boring if the moves were on a set pattern

also some people say twins are the hardest of the bunch so

and that destroyer is the best

[keen geyser]

it's just a preference thing

i personally think prime is easier than destroyer

[loud steeple]

Twins where allways the easiest for me

[lost agate]

and some people say prime tanks to much

so yeah, the message is really mixed

[terse sundial]

mhm

[mellow bay]

twins is easiest and prime is hardest

[green pumice]

prime isn't that hard

[mellow bay]

but prime is already getting nerfed

[green pumice]

wait what

[mellow bay]

prime has alot of dr and defense

[green pumice]

still better than old prime

[keen geyser]

dr and defense aren't the only things that make a boss hard

[green pumice]

😏

[mellow bay]

depends

prime does like ALOT of damage

[green pumice]

it makes it an endurance test

[terse sundial]

I would move channels at this point

since the convo has devolved

[sand umbra]

-Make the ice lasers have a chance to freeze you instead of always freezing you and make it inflict more ice debuffs (this is valid to all enemies that fires it)

make it inflict more ice debuffs

I'm gonna need you to stop right there

we already have too many cold debuffs that get inflicted on the player and need the Warmth Potion buff to be mitigated

honestly the only real issue I still have with Rev+ Destroyer is green lasers being fat and unworthy and probes just being the objectively second worst mechanic ever

and that first one is usually attributable to me bein' an idiot

[wooden wedge]

My issue with probes is that they're too damn tanky

[queen sail]

Is it possible to make any changes to Destroyer that doesn’t involve projectiles of any sort

[mellow bay]

those too

[wooden wedge]

No.

[sand umbra]

you can't do too much without those projectiles

[wooden wedge]

If there arnt any projectiles then it'd be extremely easy

[mellow bay]

also didn't warmth potion only make you deal more damage against ice enemies

[sand umbra]

the projectiles are still arguably the majority of the Destroyer fight

[wooden wedge]

Yes

It does

[sand umbra]

...what, no

[mellow bay]

dude

[queen sail]

Bruh

[mellow bay]

i wasn't talking about that

[sand umbra]

Warmth reduces the damage you take from enemies and projectiles that are marked as cold

[wooden wedge]

The warmth pot makes you do more damage to ice themed enemy's

[mellow bay]

i wasn't tolking about kirby's comment

[sand umbra]

and in Calamity additionally grants immunity to Chilled, Frozen, and Glacial State

[upbeat pebble]

guess I'll go fuck myself, thanks

[sand umbra]

Warmth Potions don't increase your damage whatsoever

[wooden wedge]

Oh yeah

I'm looking at the wiki

My memory was just fucking with me

[lost agate]

arent probes made really fragile already?

like almost everything kills them in a few hits if not a single hit

[wooden wedge]

No, I don't think so

[mellow bay]

what about swarms of them

[wooden wedge]

At least when I was playing yesterday as a summoner

[lost agate]

then you get crowd control weapons

but im pretty damn sure calamity nerfs the probes

[keen geyser]

did you struggle with destroyer as summoner

[wooden wedge]

Not really

[keen geyser]

okay good

[mellow bay]

alright

im gonna deletus a thing

[wooden wedge]

I tried it before killing cryogen first

[keen geyser]

tbh all you need is claspers

[wooden wedge]

The skeletron probes are the ones I had some issues with

[mellow bay]

they suck too

but alright i removed the ice laser

[gusty geode]

This is probably a bad idea
But what if it released Probes in larger groups at less frequent intervals
And became invulnerable until all Probes were destroyed

[keen geyser]

oh god lets not

[gusty geode]

Understandable

[queen sail]

Invulnerable until all Probes are dead

How about no

[gusty geode]

The idea was that it wouldn't release probes nearly as often to compensate
But yeah, probably still bad

[queen sail]

(Especially considering a high kb wep can just yeet them somewhere you can’t reach them and elongate suffering)

[twilit swan]

How about no because it's already hard enough to drain the insane HP the destroyer has in early hardmode

[lost agate]

Are you not using piercing?

[umbral mulch]

Stormbow holy arrows

Kapp

[tired haven]

i use piercing on mage and it's about as efficient as not using pierce on mage

fighting destroyer that is

[karmic stone]

This counts as specific right

[hollow shell]

Yeah I'd say that's too specific @tiny flicker

Your suggestion should just be about adding any SCal-themed vanity and not go into as much detail about what that vanity would be

Also, you need to provide a reason

[tiny flicker]

@hollow shell ah yeah sorry, first suggestion. I was just throwing out ideas at random lol, I'll keep it in mind next time ty

[cobalt rose]

"throwing out ideas at random" you need to put thought into your suggestions, bro

[cyan lagoon]

@supple lodge technically yes

you need to say more

[sand umbra]

@supple lodge Elaborate further, you must.

[wooden wedge]

@supple lodge yes you need more

[sand umbra]

Unclear, your prompt is.

Mmmm.

[supple lodge]

@supple lodge fine then

[cobalt rose]

isn't calamity barred from making any merch besides the mouse pads because red is a dickbag

[wooden wedge]

Relogic

Not red I think

[green pumice]

plushes cost the money, and not many people like to spend the money

[sand umbra]

tbf though I'd pay good money for an SCal or Yharon plush

[green pumice]

i'll pay for a body pillow

[sand umbra]

[potent veldt]

The only plush that exists is Yharon

[elder mist]

can i join in on the pinging too

[green pumice]

@green pumice

[wooden wedge]

I mean if you want to

[potent veldt]

No other plush shall exist

[cobalt rose]

ein you're a mod you should know better

[sand umbra]

no, give in

join the game of ping-pong

[elder mist]

exactly why i asked before doing it

[ember bay]

im still contemplating whether i should suggest imagery of calamity bosses that have feet but the feet are gigantic.

[gusty grail]

Gib me plush toi

[void kelp]

ngl a plush would be neat but custom plushies are expensive as duck

[cyan lagoon]

@ember bay why?

[gusty grail]

And crabulon waifu pillow

[green pumice]

mika wtf

[elder mist]

wtf

[green pumice]

also another wtf

[elder mist]

feet fetishes begone

[cyan lagoon]

oh wait shit

[void kelp]

please no memes

[elder mist]

fetishes of anything begoen

[cyan lagoon]

this is the wrong channel

[green pumice]

[elder mist]

gj coba

[ember bay]

its not a meme

nor fetish

[green pumice]

why

[sand umbra]

ten out of a possible ten points

[ember bay]

i just think it would be funny if i could see them with huge ass feet

[gusty grail]

But seriously i actually eant some calamity plushes

[void kelp]

“Feet but they’re gigantic” isn’t a fetish

[gusty grail]

It is

[sand umbra]

you'd be surprised

[green pumice]

then make them yourself ya weirdo

[void kelp]

I was being satirical aaaa

[green pumice]

[void kelp]

I used ech cat as my

[sand umbra]

well it ain't ing enough

[karmic stone]

Why are you encouraging them to make this a thing Cone

[green pumice]

where is in suggestions legend

[elder mist]

well let me just go out and say

you shouldn't bother suggesting that mika

because the answers gonna be no

[sand umbra]

anywho, again
I would pay good money for a Yharon plush

and that's really about it

[umbral mulch]

yharon fluffy bird

[sand umbra]

aside frommmmmmm maybe a HiiH MiiM action figure because HiiH MiiM is the best boss

(shaderain clouds and Dank Creepers sold separately)

[elder mist]

[umbral mulch]

s t o p

[elder mist]

weeabry begone

[green pumice]

i would pay for mutant boss mutant boss

[elder mist]

[gusty grail]

I would pay good money for chiibi devourer plush, yharon and cute brimmy elemental plush

[sand umbra]

oh fuck I forgot the actual plushie in the game

[cyan lagoon]

no idontgetit in suggestions

pls

[green pumice]

lole

[elder mist]

so it was you that removed my chain yesterday

[sand umbra]

yes give me greedy plushie DoG that I can hug
I require this in my life now

a

[elder mist]

[karmic stone]

So I'm guessing you're still noting down the reason for your sugma

--right--

[elder mist]

you know your sin.

last words ?

[green pumice]

for die you shall lie

[sand umbra]

well, for lie you should d--

FUCK

[void kelp]

dog plushie comes with a knife to stab you with

[gusty grail]

Win win

[green pumice]

[sand umbra]

yes
Cosmic Plushie comes with a free stabby knife and 100% Real Sass™️!

[tiny flicker]

@cobalt rose when I put thought in I was told it was too specific, but ok

[green pumice]

drunk princess plush when

[elder mist]

never ofc

[sand umbra]

no cirrus plush

cosmic plushie better

[green pumice]

hive pod plush

[supple lodge]

Siren plush

[gusty grail]

Rip old siren

[wooden wedge]

Imagine having tonsillitis

Fuck this ain't gen talk

[gusty grail]

[void kelp]

but yeah, skoores, you kinda have to explain

• there’s a lot more to consider with custom made plushies

[wooden wedge]

This mod isn't for profit

I'm pretty sure

And relogic wouldn't allow that too

[void kelp]

even a small custom one is extraordinarily expensive

[gusty grail]

Why not

[wooden wedge]

Because company memes

[gusty grail]

Its there own custom characters

[green pumice]

its not their creation though

[wooden wedge]

That's not really how it works

[sand umbra]

this is Re-Logic we're talking about

it's not really that simple

[supple lodge]

They could when Calamity becomes its own game then

[green pumice]

[wooden wedge]

I don't think it's gonna become it's own game

At least not anytime in the near future

[normal otter]

Then why are calamity mousepads a thing?

[wooden wedge]

Pretty sure there was some sort of workaround for that

[sand umbra]

probably some semi-complex legal tomfuckery

[green pumice]

legal shit is

[sand umbra]

indeed

[wooden wedge]

Ok but the point

[green pumice]

why i will never try to be rich™

[wooden wedge]

• pretty sure that calamity isn't for profit