#suggestions-discussion | Calamity Mod Discord | Page 744

hollow shell Dec 18, 2019, 9:26 AM

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If Lazinator got a name change then the devs would have no case
cuz then the only similarity would be that it resembles a light gun, which isn't their design

sand umbra Dec 18, 2019, 9:27 AM

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byeah

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granted, the fact it's an immediate Laser Rifle upgrade bothers me too but that's an entirely different ballpark that I'll cover later
the focal point here is that it's extremely similar to Zapinator in design currently

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and the name does not help its case

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so perhaps one could sugg to have it renamed to something more...unique?

~~actually maybe I'll pack that in with the sugg to move it a bit later in progression~~

hollow shell Dec 18, 2019, 9:29 AM

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Well
renaming it to something unique would in turn make it less interesting

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Lazinator's existed for like 2 or 3 years and the devs haven't spoken up yet
so it's probably fine, then

sand umbra Dec 18, 2019, 9:30 AM

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I'm pretty sure that's not how that works but it's 4:30 in the morning for me and I'm not really in any condition to argue

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so sure, let's go with that CompleteFailure

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although this has prompted something from me

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so if you'll give me just a moment

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there we go

hollow shell Dec 18, 2019, 9:40 AM

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fair enough

ashen warren Dec 18, 2019, 11:11 AM

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@hollow shell the problem is not that they go through blocks, the problem is that they drop out of nowhere

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if they just go through blocks without going up, then the situation where out of nowhere one drops on you will be A LOT more uncommon

hollow shell Dec 18, 2019, 11:17 AM

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Couldn't you have just
suggested that it can no longer move vertically through blocks?

quiet abyss Dec 18, 2019, 11:49 AM

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^

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This solution of yours to give it entirely new AI seems a bit pointlessly more complicated than it should be.

scenic aspen Dec 18, 2019, 3:25 PM

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So i'm about to get my first suggestion to 80. I'm speachless darylsweating

ashen warren Dec 18, 2019, 3:28 PM

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it really hypes you up ay

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i hit 90+ for the first time and waiting for that delicious ✅

queen sail Dec 18, 2019, 3:31 PM

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Speaking of that blorb sugma

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For a message that says The bloody moon beckons... the blood moon sure offers nothing new

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:peepodetective:

gusty geode Dec 18, 2019, 3:42 PM

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Issues like this Fiery Greatsword suggestion are what happens when you build the game around the mod and not the mod around the game

queen sail Dec 18, 2019, 3:44 PM

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And it’d be nice if, well

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The game helped with that

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ech

quartz hare Dec 18, 2019, 5:33 PM

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SmugBrimmy

hallow kraken Dec 18, 2019, 5:37 PM

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Definitely think you should’ve discussed that here before posting it

sand umbra Dec 18, 2019, 5:37 PM

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Issues like this Fiery Greatsword suggestion are what happens when you build the game around the mod and not the mod around the game

except even "building the game around the mod" isn't the case often because vanilla items and entities time and time again are left in the metaphorical dust by Calamity things for no good reason other than being vanilla things

hallow kraken Dec 18, 2019, 5:39 PM

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Doesn’t calamity add that one post-plantera greatsword upgrade

sand umbra Dec 18, 2019, 5:39 PM

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yes

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spoiler alert: it's just as irrelevant as the base weapon

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the only reason you get Hellkite is for Terratomere

distant gyro Dec 18, 2019, 5:40 PM

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Except that...

hallow kraken Dec 18, 2019, 5:40 PM

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true memee

distant gyro Dec 18, 2019, 5:41 PM

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Fiery Greatsword isn't that good of a weapon in vanilla to begin with

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It's slow as hell and too little damage output for its speed

sand umbra Dec 18, 2019, 5:41 PM

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mhm

distant gyro Dec 18, 2019, 5:42 PM

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it'd have to have the base damage of night's edge for it to even be viable

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HDfailure

sand umbra Dec 18, 2019, 5:42 PM

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it's not great in vanilla and the existence of shit like the Crusher Blades, as we discussed earlier this morning, causes Fiery Greatsword to get left in the dust half a dozen times over

hallow kraken Dec 18, 2019, 5:42 PM

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Welp the hellkite’s existence still disproves the claim that fiery greatsword is “untouched in calamity”

sand umbra Dec 18, 2019, 5:42 PM

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upgrades don't count for the purpose of the expression

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otherwise you could make the claim that Laser Rifle is also not "untouched"

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when it very frankly isn't and that's the entire reason Lazinator exists where it does

distant gyro Dec 18, 2019, 5:43 PM

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There are like 5 types of vanilla weapons in calamity

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Boring and continues to be boring -- some of these even get immediate upgrades (you know which ones)
Kinda bad, got buffed and still not viable (eg. Celebration)
Kinda bad, got buffed and is good, but hella underrated since people prefer modded content (Sunfury, Night's Edge, etc)
Too OP, nerfed, and gets mixed reviews (Razorpine, Stormbow)
OP and remains as staple as ever (crutch shotbow)

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HDfailure

sand umbra Dec 18, 2019, 5:46 PM

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1 is my favorite

distant gyro Dec 18, 2019, 5:47 PM

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It's also the only one I didn't provide examples

sand umbra Dec 18, 2019, 5:47 PM

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well yes because you and I have already discussed multiple of them at length CompleteFailure

distant gyro Dec 18, 2019, 5:47 PM

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Since everyone who has played for long enough knows what falls into that category

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CompleteFailure

terse rain Dec 18, 2019, 5:47 PM

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3 is the most common I think

sand umbra Dec 18, 2019, 5:47 PM

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3 is p. common

distant gyro Dec 18, 2019, 5:48 PM

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I don't blame people who have the precedent of 3

sand umbra Dec 18, 2019, 5:48 PM

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2 is the category that Celebration defines on its own merit because Celebration is a good meme

distant gyro Dec 18, 2019, 5:48 PM

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until they ask for a buff when it's already buffed

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Like someone a while ago asked for Night's Edge to be buffed

terse rain Dec 18, 2019, 5:48 PM

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What even was its buff?

distant gyro Dec 18, 2019, 5:49 PM

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You gotta test it to see it, last I tried it can kill wall of flesh

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Autoswing and +50% base dmg

terse rain Dec 18, 2019, 5:49 PM

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Oh that’s huge

distant gyro Dec 18, 2019, 5:49 PM

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ye

sand umbra Dec 18, 2019, 5:49 PM

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yeah NE is viable in the true melee department

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but as we all know, Carnage trumps every other true melee option there is prior to WoF HDfailure

hollow idol Dec 18, 2019, 5:59 PM

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@ashen warren read the suggestions donts doc

karmic stone Dec 18, 2019, 5:59 PM

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Meme sugg (?)

hollow idol Dec 18, 2019, 5:59 PM

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Eido pet is banned and “calamity’s vanities” mod adds one

frank stratus Dec 18, 2019, 6:00 PM

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Gasm

teal ibex Dec 18, 2019, 6:00 PM

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😔

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time to suggest the summon weapon instead 👀

hollow idol Dec 18, 2019, 6:00 PM

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~~Scrapped item iirc~~

ashen warren Dec 18, 2019, 6:01 PM

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ok im gonna suggest jared summoning weapon

teal ibex Dec 18, 2019, 6:01 PM

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d-don't, it's already been done a ton

tepid root Dec 18, 2019, 6:13 PM

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worm summon hahAA

green pumice Dec 18, 2019, 6:31 PM

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ono worms

hearty yew Dec 18, 2019, 6:41 PM

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@kittenchilly#9573 people on TML server have advised me to this; I'd say consider it a guaranteed compatibility feature

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wut

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@mossy shale

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there

mossy shale Dec 18, 2019, 6:42 PM

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Neat

green pumice Dec 18, 2019, 7:19 PM

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a suggestion needs the check mark of approval

loud steeple Dec 18, 2019, 7:39 PM

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What does the crying effect even do?

neat ember Dec 18, 2019, 7:56 PM

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@loud steeple The crying effect in its current state is inflicted by the teardrop cleaver and temporarily immobilizes enemies.

hollow shell Dec 18, 2019, 8:02 PM

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It also decreases their contact damage

runic heath Dec 18, 2019, 8:02 PM

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specifically the debuff is temporal sadness (reduces target damage by 15 and halves move speed), and is also dealt by statis blessing. It's honestly hilarious in OOA with the lightning aura since the enemies can't move. With teardrop cleaver it only lasts for 1 seconds, which for a true melee weapon is not amazing. Meanwhile the other swords in the line have projectiles and yet have an even greater duration despite the fact that contact damage is less of an issue.

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although those weapons only inflict it in glowing mushroom so I guess it's a tradeoff?

neat ember Dec 18, 2019, 8:04 PM

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huh. I didn't actually know about the contact damage part.

queen sail Dec 18, 2019, 8:04 PM

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Wait what

runic heath Dec 18, 2019, 8:04 PM

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https://calamitymod.gamepedia.com/Temporal_Sadness

Calamity Mod Wiki

Temporal Sadness

Temporal Sadness is a debuff inflicted by the Biome Blade and its upgrades, Statis' Blessing and its upgrades, and the Teardrop Cleaver. The debuff reduces the target's damage by 15 and cuts their movement speed in half while also causing them to emit large water particles.

queen sail Dec 18, 2019, 8:04 PM

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You can do that (the ooa lightning portal thing with statis’ blessing)

runic heath Dec 18, 2019, 8:04 PM

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Yes you can. It might work better if you stack multiple lightning auras on top of each other (you can actually infinitely stack them on top of each other which is dumb already)

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I never tested too much, but I noticed after a while the enemies that weren't immune were basically immobile

neat ember Dec 18, 2019, 8:06 PM

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I was just thinking that the teardrop cleaver specifically shouldn't be used as a main damage dealer, but more of a "softener"

void kelp Dec 18, 2019, 8:06 PM

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neat!

neat ember Dec 18, 2019, 8:06 PM

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like the golden shower.

void kelp Dec 18, 2019, 8:06 PM

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so kinda like a bootleg plasma rod or golden shower

neat ember Dec 18, 2019, 8:06 PM

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yeah!

runic heath Dec 18, 2019, 8:07 PM

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I don't know how feasible it would be to allow for weapon swap with a specific weapon while it's still in its use animation

neat ember Dec 18, 2019, 8:08 PM

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yeah, I don't really know either. I don't exactly know terraria's limits

gusty geode Dec 18, 2019, 8:09 PM

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Even if it is possible
It's broken as hell imo

neat ember Dec 18, 2019, 8:09 PM

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maybe make it have its current use time, but just make the animation absoute hyperspeed?

green pumice Dec 18, 2019, 8:09 PM

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terraria's code is probably too messy to do that

neat ember Dec 18, 2019, 8:11 PM

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Maybe we could just... change the weapon entirely?

green pumice Dec 18, 2019, 8:12 PM

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shrug

neat ember Dec 18, 2019, 8:13 PM

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what about instead of giving the effect for 1 second, it gives it for 3 seconds and has lower damage. The tradeoff here would be pitiful damage -> immobilization, encouraging you to switch to another weapon to smack it around instead

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kinda like slag from bl2

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~~wait shit that's ichor~~

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...do you at least get what I'm saying'

green pumice Dec 18, 2019, 8:15 PM

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kinda

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but im not a dev so i can't really help ya much buddy

neat ember Dec 18, 2019, 8:16 PM

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thanks for the feedback, though.

hollow shell Dec 18, 2019, 8:17 PM

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@bright mountain Look two suggestions above yours.

neat ember Dec 18, 2019, 8:17 PM

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@bright mountain bro

bright mountain Dec 18, 2019, 8:17 PM

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fuk

wooden wedge Dec 18, 2019, 8:18 PM

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this was posted like a few hours ago

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that's not ech

hollow shell Dec 18, 2019, 8:18 PM

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But it's so much better

wooden wedge Dec 18, 2019, 8:18 PM

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ech

bright mountain Dec 18, 2019, 8:18 PM

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it is

hollow shell Dec 18, 2019, 8:18 PM

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👨‍💻

wooden wedge Dec 18, 2019, 8:18 PM

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no shut

bright mountain Dec 18, 2019, 8:18 PM

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my bad

wooden wedge Dec 18, 2019, 8:18 PM

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it's not ech and discord bad

quick ice Dec 18, 2019, 8:18 PM

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~~That’s 2 suggestions about boss checklist support~~ other one was deleted

neat ember Dec 18, 2019, 8:21 PM

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stop trying to bury my suggestions with reposts or I'm telling mother

wooden wedge Dec 18, 2019, 8:22 PM

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what

teal ibex Dec 18, 2019, 8:32 PM

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@green pumice is that a crispy recolor of bingShrug LOL

green pumice Dec 18, 2019, 8:32 PM

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shrug

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it's from an emote server idk

teal ibex Dec 18, 2019, 8:37 PM

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its most definitely a stolen sub emote that got recolored thats amazing omg

tired haven Dec 18, 2019, 8:39 PM

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Now I wonder if statis blessing completely annihilates T3 ooa

green pumice Dec 18, 2019, 8:43 PM

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that is le funni

runic heath Dec 18, 2019, 8:47 PM

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It does crabbar

radiant meadow Dec 18, 2019, 9:08 PM

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Some are immune to sadness so maybe not

runic heath Dec 18, 2019, 9:12 PM

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I have done it before, it works pretty dang well

radiant meadow Dec 18, 2019, 9:12 PM

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It might've been before I made half the enemies immune

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@mossy shale I will add that to my todo list when I get back home

neat ember Dec 18, 2019, 10:23 PM

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yay I made something happen

hexed ore Dec 19, 2019, 12:08 AM

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What do the orange in white checkmarks mean?

opal barn Dec 19, 2019, 12:12 AM

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there isn't an orange and white checkmark

hexed ore Dec 19, 2019, 12:18 AM

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This

📎 IMG_20191218_191820.jpg

cobalt rose Dec 19, 2019, 12:19 AM

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oh thats the "bluecheck"

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it looks different to you

hexed ore Dec 19, 2019, 12:19 AM

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Oh

hollow shell Dec 19, 2019, 12:23 AM

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wew
Never seen that one before

ashen warren Dec 19, 2019, 1:13 AM

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wack

loud steeple Dec 19, 2019, 1:23 AM

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for some reason i also see that one sometimes

devout seal Dec 19, 2019, 3:19 AM

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Would suggestign a change of cryogen to make him stay above you more be wrong?

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because the fact that roxcalibur, the strongest earlyhm weapon, can't hit him effectively when he's to the left or right of you, where he spends most of the fight..
is kind of annoying.

teal ibex Dec 19, 2019, 3:20 AM

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i think it would make more sense to suggest roxcalibur having more range

devout seal Dec 19, 2019, 3:21 AM

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the range isn't the issue, it's shots are lobbed.

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it can't hit him with the projectiles unless he's above you

karmic stone Dec 19, 2019, 3:22 AM

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You literally can

teal ibex Dec 19, 2019, 3:23 AM

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so why would increasing the range of the lob not help?

devout seal Dec 19, 2019, 3:23 AM

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do you mean making the lob go farther, or making it so it's not locked at like.. 30c vertically.

karmic stone Dec 19, 2019, 3:24 AM

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It's not locked, you can aim it bruh

devout seal Dec 19, 2019, 3:24 AM

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but not towards him.

teal ibex Dec 19, 2019, 3:24 AM

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i'm not being particular about how it's changed. range can be increased for both

devout seal Dec 19, 2019, 3:24 AM

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only lob the shots.

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you can influence the direction, but not aim it directly at him.

karmic stone Dec 19, 2019, 3:24 AM

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And it's prolly the best wep for Cryo because of that

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I'm telling you you can

teal ibex Dec 19, 2019, 3:25 AM

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the point i'm making is that it makes a lot more sense to change a weapon to fit a boss rather than an entire boss for one weapon

devout seal Dec 19, 2019, 3:25 AM

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if i hold towards him

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it just hits above him

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instead of directly towards him.

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well it's the weapon with the highest damage

karmic stone Dec 19, 2019, 3:27 AM

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Don't judge weps by base damage

sand umbra Dec 19, 2019, 3:27 AM

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something you'll learn very quickly about Calamity: base damage ain't shit

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YinYo is extremely good for Cryo from what I remember

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Clam Crusher should be p. nice too

karmic stone Dec 19, 2019, 3:28 AM

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Things like p90 exist, yea

gusty grail Dec 19, 2019, 3:29 AM

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Thoughts?

karmic stone Dec 19, 2019, 3:30 AM

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Already planned ofc byhea

devout seal Dec 19, 2019, 3:38 AM

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May i ask why he's inflicting oozed, though

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because he probably shouldn't be inflicting that.

radiant meadow Dec 19, 2019, 3:40 AM

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Only thing that should inflict Oozed are ogres iirc

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As for the cryo mvt sugg, I don't think it's necessary

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And cryo's mvt is based off phases

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And I think you're fine just using more than one weapon

devout seal Dec 19, 2019, 3:41 AM

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Well, i'm pretty sure the thing that pretty much disabled my movement ( made me so slow that dashing was the only way to move ) was oozed.

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so, i'm not sure what did that.

radiant meadow Dec 19, 2019, 3:42 AM

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Like crystal blade is shit for above phases but great at side phases

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Cryogen inflicts chilled, frozen, glacial state, and frostburn

left crest Dec 19, 2019, 4:51 AM

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that's definitely chilled

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you can get immunity to that by drinking warmth potion

devout seal Dec 19, 2019, 5:28 AM

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I have that.

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Permanently.

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it's clearly something else, since it halts jumping as-well ( jumping does nothing )
along with slowing falling.

cobalt rose Dec 19, 2019, 5:28 AM

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its probably frozen.

hollow shell Dec 19, 2019, 5:35 AM

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Nah, Frozen wouldn't let him dash

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Glacial State's the candidate

cobalt rose Dec 19, 2019, 5:36 AM

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but cryogen doesnt inflict glacial state, right?

hollow shell Dec 19, 2019, 5:36 AM

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He does

cobalt rose Dec 19, 2019, 5:37 AM

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~~that fact that the wiki didnt list that in the debuffs cryogen inflicts is annoying ech ~~

hollow shell Dec 19, 2019, 5:37 AM

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(Wiki's got a limit of 3 debuffs per infobox, sorry)

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(Can't have 4)

cobalt rose Dec 19, 2019, 5:38 AM

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~~now thats stupid~~

hollow shell Dec 19, 2019, 5:38 AM

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It's still on the page, tho

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Under Phase 1

cobalt rose Dec 19, 2019, 5:38 AM

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yea ik

hollow shell Dec 19, 2019, 5:38 AM

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I dunno about Glacial State either tho cuz Warmth Potion makes you immune to that, too

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@devout seal Try to get some confirmation next time it happens

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see what debuffs you got

devout seal Dec 19, 2019, 5:39 AM

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first few fights, i didn't have the ankh

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but now that i do, i'm not seeing whatever debuff it was.

hollow shell Dec 19, 2019, 5:40 AM

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Well, take it off and try to get afflicted again

teal ibex Dec 19, 2019, 5:41 AM

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i'm 95% sure it's glacial state. it's the same for the destroyer and ice golems, and i've been frozen in place in the same way by those three enemies in particular.

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while we're on the topic, please throw ice golem into the stratosphere

reason: everybody would be happier this way

sand umbra Dec 19, 2019, 5:53 AM

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I'm starring this sugg because Ice Golems in their current state are stupid to fight

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CompleteFailure

swift wadi Dec 19, 2019, 5:54 AM

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Agreed HyperFailure

teal ibex Dec 19, 2019, 6:26 AM

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ok it's at 7 i think i'm gonna send it

devout seal Dec 19, 2019, 6:26 AM

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does glacial state make it so jumps hardly move you, and dashing is the only way for horizontal movement?
along with a rather short affliction time?

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Like, 3 seconds max?

sand umbra Dec 19, 2019, 6:26 AM

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Glacial State should just freeze you outright

teal ibex Dec 19, 2019, 6:27 AM

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yes glacial state makes jumps and falling halt as well afaik

sand umbra Dec 19, 2019, 6:27 AM

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it's literally bootleg Frozen

devout seal Dec 19, 2019, 6:27 AM

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It doesn't freeze me outright, though.

sand umbra Dec 19, 2019, 6:27 AM

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megathink

devout seal Dec 19, 2019, 6:27 AM

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And i saw an Ice Golem inflict Oozed.

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which did the same thing as what cryogen was doing for a bit as-well.

teal ibex Dec 19, 2019, 6:28 AM

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it's not oozed? what?

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correlation != causation. you're equating the outcome with the effect and it's not the case

devout seal Dec 19, 2019, 6:28 AM

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Though, let me test ice golems, it might be glacial state.

teal ibex Dec 19, 2019, 6:28 AM

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ice golem, cryogen, and destroyer all inflict glacial state which freeze you in place

devout seal Dec 19, 2019, 6:29 AM

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yup, tis glacial state.

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sorry for the confusion, then.

distant gyro Dec 19, 2019, 6:29 AM

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ye oozed is a weird debuff for ice enemies to inflict

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at first I was convinced you were on masomode because that's the only time someone would do such a thing

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HDfailure

devout seal Dec 19, 2019, 6:31 AM

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Yeah, i thought it was masomode glitching for awhile too.

opal barn Dec 19, 2019, 11:19 AM

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Ah yes, the sniper subclass with one weapon in vanilla

swift wadi Dec 19, 2019, 11:21 AM

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Doesn't vanilla have 1 flamethrower

quartz hare Dec 19, 2019, 11:21 AM

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two

opal barn Dec 19, 2019, 11:22 AM

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How many sniper rifles does calamity add, 2?

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I'm so tired of: add x weapons because subclass xd

swift wadi Dec 19, 2019, 11:23 AM

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Shroomer and its upgrade yes?

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Also i agree, no need to flesh out these niche subclasses

golden narwhal Dec 19, 2019, 11:24 AM

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Can something even be considered a subclass rather than a unique line of weapons if it doesn't have a huge difference to other guns?

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Also, it belongs to the gun subclass

opal barn Dec 19, 2019, 11:26 AM

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@hollow shell petition to add "subclass" suggestions to the don'ts

royal turtle Dec 19, 2019, 11:36 AM

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rocket is an official subclass

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that gets practically nothing in vanilla

swift wadi Dec 19, 2019, 11:36 AM

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Shroomite armor helmit bruh

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Thats like it

royal turtle Dec 19, 2019, 11:37 AM

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yeah that's the only thing that confirms that rocket subclass even exists

void kelp Dec 19, 2019, 11:43 AM

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honestly subclass suggs just because they’re subclass = not very good sug

ashen warren Dec 19, 2019, 11:44 AM

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flying carpet / hoverboard subclass expansion?

quartz hare Dec 19, 2019, 11:58 AM

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sure

tepid root Dec 19, 2019, 2:03 PM

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since when was sniper a subclass

distant gyro Dec 19, 2019, 2:03 PM

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sniper is a subsubsubclass tbh

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the real subclass is gun

tepid root Dec 19, 2019, 2:03 PM

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does this mean minigun-esque weapons are now a subclass iREALLYdontgetit

distant gyro Dec 19, 2019, 2:04 PM

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shotgun, machine gun, and sniper guns aren't a fucking sub

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HahaYes

tepid root Dec 19, 2019, 2:04 PM

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theyre all just

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gun

swift bison Dec 19, 2019, 2:17 PM

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"Sniper subclass"

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calawheeze

frail mantle Dec 19, 2019, 2:24 PM

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also what is this mythical "flamethrower overhaul"

distant gyro Dec 19, 2019, 2:26 PM

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literally 3 more flamethrowers

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no overhauling HDfailure

queen sail Dec 19, 2019, 2:31 PM

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Add Chlorophyte to Jungle Crates (post-Plantera or smth).

Reason: Let’s be honest, Chlorophyte farming is a big bruh moment, even with farms. How much you get varies on the size, and that comes at the cost of time. I wouldn’t want a “Calamity Crates offer skipping mining altogether” meta, hence why I suggest making this happen post-Plantera (where it’ll be used more often). If you wanna balance that more, you can just make the crates give you yields of ore instead of yields of bars (though this may be PensiveDoGCowboy for some).

distant gyro Dec 19, 2019, 2:31 PM

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blue checked iirc HDfailure

queen sail Dec 19, 2019, 2:31 PM

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PensiveDoGCowboy

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How bout we add shadow and ice crates

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Or just have fargo crate support

distant gyro Dec 19, 2019, 2:32 PM

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perhaps

night cradle Dec 19, 2019, 2:32 PM

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shadow crates for which biome?

distant gyro Dec 19, 2019, 2:32 PM

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wait does that count as SIS

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shadow = hell

queen sail Dec 19, 2019, 2:32 PM

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Now we have a place to stick cryonic bars into

night cradle Dec 19, 2019, 2:32 PM

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ah I see

queen sail Dec 19, 2019, 2:32 PM

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Let me go make a sugma based on that brb

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Add support for Fargo Mod’s Crates (Shadow and Ice).

Reason: Fargo’s Mod offers two crates to biomes that need them: Snow and Hell. This can be a bit on the thonk side because of cross-mod compatibility, but I’d imagine adding support for two crates wouldn’t be much. It’d give Cryonic Bars, Essences of Eleum, and Charred Ore a placement in crates (though the Charred Ore one is iffy because Unholy Cores exist in Brimstone Crates already). Also, who doesn’t play with Fargo’s nowadays?

~~if you don’t play with fargo’s expect your kneecaps to be gone by tomorrow~~

green pumice Dec 19, 2019, 3:02 PM

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why do people keep asking for these irrelevant subclass weapons

distant gyro Dec 19, 2019, 3:03 PM

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that's not even a subclass is the thing

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sniper is a sub of gun which is a sub in itself

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HDfailure

green pumice Dec 19, 2019, 3:03 PM

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but still

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~~who cares about snipers~~

distant gyro Dec 19, 2019, 3:04 PM

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~~triple the sin~~

queen sail Dec 19, 2019, 3:06 PM

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But muh subclass playthroughs

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Instead of adding content to actual classes that need them

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ech

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Just gonna uh

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Post that fargo crate compat sugma now

ashen warren Dec 19, 2019, 3:09 PM

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i star fishing suggestions

green pumice Dec 19, 2019, 3:11 PM

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jokes on you i dont play at all godglasses

ashen warren Dec 19, 2019, 3:11 PM

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i actually want other rods to have passive attack like the navy rod

placid girder Dec 19, 2019, 3:20 PM

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fuck kirby i was thinking of that

queen sail Dec 19, 2019, 3:21 PM

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You have been ninja’d

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ech

swift bison Dec 19, 2019, 3:36 PM

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hey guys you know what we need? we need more weapons for the compound bow subclass HDfailure

distant gyro Dec 19, 2019, 3:37 PM

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we need expansion for the placable cannon subclass iirc

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HyperFailure

swift bison Dec 19, 2019, 3:38 PM

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expand the "Book attached to staff" subclass

reason: right now there's only one item in the subclass, the tome of infinite wisdom, but it has lots of potential. add more "Book attached to staff" weapons to make a full playthrough possible

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HyperFailure

distant gyro Dec 19, 2019, 3:39 PM

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AmidiasEvasion

swift bison Dec 19, 2019, 3:40 PM

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🏁

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pls add more boss after scal because i wanna b more OP but also nerf scal becaus she too hard

hallow kraken Dec 19, 2019, 3:41 PM

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man I can’t wait for the geyser trap subclass expansion

opal barn Dec 19, 2019, 3:41 PM

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Cease memeing now

swift bison Dec 19, 2019, 3:41 PM

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kek

quartz hare Dec 19, 2019, 3:45 PM

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add yharim's mask

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⭐

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(perfect sugg)

hallow kraken Dec 19, 2019, 3:46 PM

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like

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from what

opal barn Dec 19, 2019, 3:46 PM

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(I thought I told to cease memeing but 🤔)

hallow kraken Dec 19, 2019, 3:47 PM

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If that’s serious it sounds like both a specific item and future mod content

mossy shale Dec 19, 2019, 4:23 PM

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That cross mod suggestion is more of a suggestion for fargo than calamity

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Since the mod that adds the crate has to add the cross-mod items and stuff, not the mod with the item to be added itself

sand umbra Dec 19, 2019, 4:35 PM

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I mean, it can be done on either side

queen sail Dec 19, 2019, 5:09 PM

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Fargo’s needs to accept having their crates be affected by Calamity and Calamity needs to accept the compat with Fargo’s p much

radiant meadow Dec 19, 2019, 5:12 PM

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Easier for fargo to do it I think

ashen warren Dec 19, 2019, 5:14 PM

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contract: get this sugma to dev server and approved and then we'll do it

hallow kraken Dec 19, 2019, 5:16 PM

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Can we just give you 10 dollars and you’ll do it

ashen warren Dec 19, 2019, 5:17 PM

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good luck but ok

civic pond Dec 19, 2019, 5:18 PM

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oops there goes my kneecaps

hallow kraken Dec 19, 2019, 5:19 PM

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yum

radiant meadow Dec 19, 2019, 5:20 PM

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A

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Accidentally removed the star too

paper torrent Dec 19, 2019, 5:22 PM

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Rip. But I do think it would be a nice little change for those who have smaller displays. For instance, I play on a laptop. It has an HD screen, but is unable to display the entire tooltip.

ashen warren Dec 19, 2019, 5:28 PM

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What does it mean if a suggestion has no ! under it?

karmic stone Dec 19, 2019, 5:28 PM

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It's been reviewed by a mod+

ashen warren Dec 19, 2019, 5:29 PM

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But mine's got no check mark or denied thing

karmic stone Dec 19, 2019, 5:30 PM

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Because it's been reviewed

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Not sent

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Check the pins

ashen warren Dec 19, 2019, 5:30 PM

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Ah

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Well thanks for the help nyannHappy

ashen warren Dec 19, 2019, 7:00 PM

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@ashen warren read pins.

quartz hare Dec 19, 2019, 7:03 PM

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UPVOTE

queen sail Dec 19, 2019, 7:04 PM

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Specific sugma and a wall of text

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taxevasion

fervent zealot Dec 19, 2019, 7:04 PM

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i'll raise you this

warm tinsel Dec 19, 2019, 7:04 PM

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A miniboss would be nice

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We can give Crimson a reason to exist, but we should do it for Corruption too

ashen warren Dec 19, 2019, 7:04 PM

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waiting 5mins before i vore the sugma

fervent zealot Dec 19, 2019, 7:05 PM

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specific sugma that fails to grasp vanilla's concepts, let alone calamity's, a wall of text, a first activity in months post, a post that involves making the spreading biomes (that everyone already hates) spread even faster

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it's a mess

queen sail Dec 19, 2019, 7:06 PM

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I said no to this as soon as i saw it took up my entire screen

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Tbh

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:the_FACE:

tired haven Dec 19, 2019, 7:06 PM

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Cut that to 3 mins tbh

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Also, first time suggestion lottery won again

queen sail Dec 19, 2019, 7:08 PM

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Give me my cool thing bc it’d be cool for it to exist just for my pleasure and nobody else’s

royal turtle Dec 19, 2019, 7:22 PM

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what was the shitty suggestion that got removed

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i'd prefer they just stay up so people can laugh at them tbh

terse sundial Dec 19, 2019, 7:24 PM

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HDfailure

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No

queen sail Dec 19, 2019, 7:26 PM

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No because then legitimate suggs that aim to improve the mod can’t be seen by people who check out #suggestions-voting bc “Add cool thing and here’s a five page essay on what it does”

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ech

terse sundial Dec 19, 2019, 7:31 PM

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@ashen warren a reasoning to your suggestion would be nice

ashen warren Dec 19, 2019, 7:32 PM

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because its impossible to beat the sub 3 run if you can infinitely use the bazooka like he did at the time

tired haven Dec 19, 2019, 7:32 PM

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Time to add arbitral character limit to suggestions, harhar

Also, another "add this because I want so", I see

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There is a reason why the guns were nerfed, and this won't be reverted anytime soon, even as config

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(also, what's the point of running a different from standart game?)

frail mantle Dec 19, 2019, 7:34 PM

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Tbh “because it would please this minor part of the community” isn’t good reasoning on its own

queen sail Dec 19, 2019, 7:36 PM

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What is this reasoning

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Why do we need this

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taxevasion

teal ibex Dec 19, 2019, 7:37 PM

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the way this is phrased implies that i used configs in the run, which i didn't

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unfortunately, the functionality of infinite % gun spam was removed for a reason. it was and still would be too powerful, especially with the introduction of the hydra.

gusty geode Dec 19, 2019, 7:38 PM

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~~It's a good enough reason to not give the RoD the nerf it deserves/needs~~

tired haven Dec 19, 2019, 7:40 PM

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~~or is it~~

sand umbra Dec 19, 2019, 7:40 PM

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the Hydra never had this functionality and to be frank I'm glad it didn't

gusty geode Dec 19, 2019, 7:40 PM

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~~I imagine it could've been made actually balanced a long time ago if not for the immense amount of salt laying a finger on it brings from the people who can't no-hit without it~~

teal ibex Dec 19, 2019, 7:40 PM

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it very briefly did, thomas

sand umbra Dec 19, 2019, 7:41 PM

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.

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what

teal ibex Dec 19, 2019, 7:41 PM

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for exactly one version of calamity you could infinitely use hydra

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providence would die in less than 5 seconds

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it was an incredibly brief experience

sand umbra Dec 19, 2019, 7:41 PM

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that is busted beyond compare and sounds glorious

teal ibex Dec 19, 2019, 7:41 PM

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pretty much yeah. sub 2h 30m was probably easily doable on that version, but it had to go

tired haven Dec 19, 2019, 7:41 PM

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In fact this last suggestion involves "re-adding removed features", so it probably will have to be deleted

gusty geode Dec 19, 2019, 7:42 PM

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Completely disabling use of it while inflicted with Chaos State
That's all it needs to ensure it can't be spammed

sand umbra Dec 19, 2019, 7:42 PM

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byeah, if only one of the three classless big-damage guns actually needed the limitation

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it's the Hydra with a whopping 25% health gone per shot if all the bullets land

tired haven Dec 19, 2019, 7:42 PM

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They all need that so failure

teal ibex Dec 19, 2019, 7:43 PM

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yepper, it was nuts and made exclusively my life easier. for basically everybody else it was a really bad thing to have LOL

sand umbra Dec 19, 2019, 7:43 PM

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killing basically anything in 4 shots is a little...yeah CompleteFailure

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~~ez SCal~~

teal ibex Dec 19, 2019, 7:43 PM

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it was a pretty short fight yeah LOL

sand umbra Dec 19, 2019, 7:44 PM

#

teal ibex Dec 19, 2019, 7:44 PM

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that being said you did have to swap to singleplayer for maximum effect of those guns which was kind of annoying

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but anyway this is mega tangential

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this suggestion cannot and should not exist, coming from the guy it's based off of, there's a reason they were nerfed

swift bison Dec 19, 2019, 7:57 PM

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taking RoD damage in nohits disqualifies you already

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HDfailure

gusty geode Dec 19, 2019, 7:57 PM

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Wait what

sand umbra Dec 19, 2019, 7:57 PM

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HDfailure

queen sail Dec 19, 2019, 7:57 PM

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ech

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You have entered
THE COMEDY ZONE

sand umbra Dec 19, 2019, 7:58 PM

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never make a sugg based on nohits ever please
b) double RoD counts against you in nohits anyway so lol

gusty geode Dec 19, 2019, 7:58 PM

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Ok, made a fool of myself
See y'all next month HyperFailure

distant gyro Dec 19, 2019, 7:58 PM

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CompleteFailure

ruby cobalt Dec 19, 2019, 7:58 PM

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cya next never then

sand umbra Dec 19, 2019, 7:59 PM

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txvsn

worthy raptor Dec 19, 2019, 8:00 PM

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Please read the information we have on things like that before making suggestions regarding them

swift bison Dec 19, 2019, 8:00 PM

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does Calamity Nohit QoL add a way to cause DoG's sentinel phase to appear even if you've already killed him once?

distant gyro Dec 19, 2019, 8:01 PM

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/invertdogdeath yes

ruby cobalt Dec 19, 2019, 8:01 PM

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not like you'd want to do that

distant gyro Dec 19, 2019, 8:01 PM

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not like sentinels are required anymore

swift bison Dec 19, 2019, 8:01 PM

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sentinel phase isn't required for DoG nothit anymore?

gusty geode Dec 19, 2019, 8:01 PM

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~~Even disregarding no-hits RoD still probably needs another nerf~~

ruby cobalt Dec 19, 2019, 8:01 PM

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it doesn't

green pumice Dec 19, 2019, 8:01 PM

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it is not

distant gyro Dec 19, 2019, 8:01 PM

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a month ago

swift bison Dec 19, 2019, 8:01 PM

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sad

ruby cobalt Dec 19, 2019, 8:01 PM

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more like you need to stop balancing shit around it

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and just accept its existence

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or balancing it, how about it

hollow shell Dec 19, 2019, 8:02 PM

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I'm surprised this DoG suggestion isn't way more common

swift bison Dec 19, 2019, 8:02 PM

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ah yes just accept its existence and let it trivialize all fights not balanced around it

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i suggested it once

hollow shell Dec 19, 2019, 8:02 PM

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I can't even remember the last time it was suggested last

swift bison Dec 19, 2019, 8:02 PM

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one second

hollow idol Dec 19, 2019, 8:02 PM

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I kinda just assumed it wasnt possible the last time I thought about it in like early 2017

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because small brain

hollow shell Dec 19, 2019, 8:02 PM

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Of course it's possible

fervent citrus Dec 19, 2019, 8:02 PM

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I think i made a good suggestion taxevasion

ruby cobalt Dec 19, 2019, 8:02 PM

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because everyone and their mother uses RoD

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of course

swift bison Dec 19, 2019, 8:03 PM

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📎 unknown.png

tired haven Dec 19, 2019, 8:03 PM

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My mother uses NR, smh failure

swift bison Dec 19, 2019, 8:03 PM

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i was the one to suggest it last in september

fervent citrus Dec 19, 2019, 8:03 PM

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Thats a good one

hollow idol Dec 19, 2019, 8:03 PM

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p sure rover meant the dog dialogue one

fervent citrus Dec 19, 2019, 8:04 PM

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~~Crabbar, why wont u add a hat on the crabstick~~

hollow shell Dec 19, 2019, 8:04 PM

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Yeah I meant the dialogue one lol

swift bison Dec 19, 2019, 8:04 PM

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oh lol

fervent citrus Dec 19, 2019, 8:04 PM

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xD

swift bison Dec 19, 2019, 8:04 PM

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welp, time to add sentinel config to my addon lole

hollow shell Dec 19, 2019, 9:00 PM

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Huh
@quartz hare Did you delete your Draedon's Forge suggestion you posted on the 7th?

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Oh pff nevermind
Discord search is just really stupid

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Seriously...

📎 unknown.png

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Discord please I'm just trying to do my job

📎 unknown.png

teal ibex Dec 19, 2019, 9:04 PM

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yeah i've been having problems lately. i've been searching for things that definitely exist and have been unable to find them despite this

void kelp Dec 19, 2019, 9:05 PM

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I believe there’s a specific period of time discord search doesnt work

teal ibex Dec 19, 2019, 9:05 PM

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i've literally just started copying the links of suggestions when i get my screenshots and saving them to a text doc

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then posting them in a private channel so i can immediately jump to them later

sand umbra Dec 19, 2019, 9:05 PM

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I think the thing of it is that

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if I remember rightly, that timeframe was the timeframe where search shit itself in the first place

teal ibex Dec 19, 2019, 9:05 PM

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probably not wrong yeah

hollow shell Dec 19, 2019, 9:06 PM

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Makes sense

random flume Dec 19, 2019, 9:32 PM

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dog spam is the best thing about his fight

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TaxEvasion

carmine linden Dec 19, 2019, 9:47 PM

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Did that hurt?
Delicious
Nothing personal kid
nOthIng hUrt dElicouS coCk kid

teal ibex Dec 19, 2019, 9:47 PM

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you might wanna, uhhhh

ashen warren Dec 19, 2019, 9:48 PM

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turn your brain on.

teal ibex Dec 19, 2019, 9:48 PM

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scramble three or more of those words

sand umbra Dec 19, 2019, 10:00 PM

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ah yes I love the part where the big glutton worm spams nothin personnel kid at me while I'm losing HP

seriously I absolutely agree with this sugg and want the Devourer's dialogue to not spam my chat every time I near his head or tail, especially when testing as it happens a lot during then

hollow shell Dec 19, 2019, 10:08 PM

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It was a bit of a joke for a while but at this point, which how much the mod's developed, it just comes off as a lack of polish

hollow idol Dec 19, 2019, 10:20 PM

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those lines were in since 2016

hollow shell Dec 19, 2019, 10:20 PM

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@dull salmon Reasoning is a bit weak. Why should it be available sooner?

sand umbra Dec 19, 2019, 10:21 PM

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actually, to give it and Zen separation from Chaos and Tranq Candles, respectively, and because their power level is no longer retarded for the point you'd be expected to obtain them

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(keep in mind that Zerg is less than impressive on its own now and Zen is not full silence anymore)

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@ mr. trix rabbit the 3rd
take notes, friend. this is the kind of reasoning people like to see

dull salmon Dec 19, 2019, 10:23 PM

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They are mainly used for farming (at least in my experience) and farming is a universal thing in terraria if you're trying to find gear and accessories that drop from specific enemies. Farming isn't exclusive to only post plantera if that makes sense

sand umbra Dec 19, 2019, 10:23 PM

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see, here's my only dog in this fight, and the only reason I care

hollow shell Dec 19, 2019, 10:24 PM

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Well you can still farm pre-Zerg

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Battle Potions and Water Candles still exist

sand umbra Dec 19, 2019, 10:24 PM

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Zerg Potions, on their own? suck
the real power comes from the fact that they can be combined with other items for additional spawn rate boosts

dull salmon Dec 19, 2019, 10:24 PM

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Yes, but to be honest I don't really notice a big difference with battle potions and water candles

sand umbra Dec 19, 2019, 10:24 PM

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because you haven't used them since the update that made them relevant, probably

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CompleteFailure

hollow shell Dec 19, 2019, 10:25 PM

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ye they got buffed in Calamity semi-recently

dull salmon Dec 19, 2019, 10:25 PM

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I guess they got nerfed or something, i remember zerg potions would fill up my entire screen in like 15 seconds

hollow shell Dec 19, 2019, 10:25 PM

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yep

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Zergs got nerfed because the entire item meta was centered around them

sand umbra Dec 19, 2019, 10:25 PM

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a couple updates ago, Battle Potions and Water Candles got adjusted so they no longer hit the softcap on entities

dull salmon Dec 19, 2019, 10:25 PM

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Hmm. I'll give them a try.

hollow shell Dec 19, 2019, 10:25 PM

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"What is the meaning of rarity or anything being difficult to obtain in any number?
Zergs exist."

sand umbra Dec 19, 2019, 10:26 PM

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same with Calming Potions and Peace Candles in the other direction

in that same series of changes, Zen and Zerg got meganerfed

dull salmon Dec 19, 2019, 10:26 PM

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That's fair

sand umbra Dec 19, 2019, 10:26 PM

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mainly Zerg, which was known to be beyond busted for farming

queen sail Dec 19, 2019, 10:26 PM

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It was an end all be all solution basically

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ech

sand umbra Dec 19, 2019, 10:26 PM

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(and tbf there are better mods for one-stop-shop solutions for item/enemy farming anyway)

queen sail Dec 19, 2019, 10:27 PM

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Rare item? Zerg
Materials? Zerg
Speed up events? Zerg
Hotel? Trivago

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HDfailure

sand umbra Dec 19, 2019, 10:27 PM

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trivago

dull salmon Dec 19, 2019, 10:27 PM

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do multiple water candles in one spot stack

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im guessing not

sand umbra Dec 19, 2019, 10:27 PM

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no

hollow shell Dec 19, 2019, 10:27 PM

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Nah

queen sail Dec 19, 2019, 10:27 PM

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The buffs stack

sand umbra Dec 19, 2019, 10:27 PM

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but Battle Potions, Water Candles, Zerg Potions, and Chaos Candles all stack independently of each other

hollow shell Dec 19, 2019, 10:27 PM

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yeah

sand umbra Dec 19, 2019, 10:27 PM

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so using two or more of these items at once will yield greater results

hollow shell Dec 19, 2019, 10:27 PM

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but multiple of any one of those, do not stack

dull salmon Dec 19, 2019, 10:27 PM

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ok, cool

sand umbra Dec 19, 2019, 10:28 PM

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using all four will allow you to commit the systematic genocide of everything in a five-mile radius with no real shortage of enemies to tackle OmegaFailure

dull salmon Dec 19, 2019, 10:28 PM

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that's awesome

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i didnt know chaos candles were added too

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i missed out

sand umbra Dec 19, 2019, 10:28 PM

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byeah, Zerg in particular got fucked to stop people from being like "Zerg exists so farming is lol"

dull salmon Dec 19, 2019, 10:29 PM

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True

sand umbra Dec 19, 2019, 10:29 PM

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a LOT of potentially creative solutions to certain long-standing issues before that point were often squandered because Zerg was a universal counter-argument

dull salmon Dec 19, 2019, 10:29 PM

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Muh 10 second farming sessions

sand umbra Dec 19, 2019, 10:30 PM

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now that it isn't anywhere near as strong as it once was, though, I'd be cool with locking it to just Hardmode in general (that includes Blood Orb recipe which should in fact be later because Blood Orbs are yes)

queen sail Dec 19, 2019, 10:31 PM

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Still waiting on that unique post ml bloon content

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PensiveDoGCowboy

sand umbra Dec 19, 2019, 10:31 PM

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BLOONS

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.C.

gusty geode Dec 19, 2019, 10:35 PM

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Maybe they could be like
Sentries of Xeroc, searching the planet up-close for Noxus
And their designs could take after the Guardians from
Either Zelda game with enemies called Guardians, both concepts work

hollow idol Dec 19, 2019, 10:40 PM

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~~we already had a zelda guardian inspired thing but was replaced~~

queen sail Dec 19, 2019, 10:41 PM

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Rip original ravager

hollow idol Dec 19, 2019, 10:41 PM

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coincidentally meant for a xeroc related area

ashen warren Dec 20, 2019, 12:31 AM

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green check has arrived

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pog

void kelp Dec 20, 2019, 1:11 AM

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@quartz bough if you close minimap it’ll show up

hollow shell Dec 20, 2019, 1:11 AM

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I don't think we're able to do that, considering it's not our code which adds those accessory slots

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it's vanilla's

void kelp Dec 20, 2019, 1:12 AM

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yeah. I have small resolution screen too and the only solution is to close the minimap if you’re managing those acc slots

paper torrent Dec 20, 2019, 1:13 AM

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Yeah.

golden narwhal Dec 20, 2019, 1:14 AM

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same, and you dont need to view your accs all the time

quartz bough Dec 20, 2019, 1:18 AM

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@void kelp i didnt know you could do that, thanks

void kelp Dec 20, 2019, 1:19 AM

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:))

hollow shell Dec 20, 2019, 1:45 AM

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@neat ember Elaborate?

neat ember Dec 20, 2019, 1:45 AM

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the hadal stew doesn't autoheal when you press the heal key

fresh harbor Dec 20, 2019, 1:46 AM

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Are you sure? I remember it doing so

hollow shell Dec 20, 2019, 1:46 AM

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You could say that in the suggestion
with
a "reason why" of the fact that it heals life, with even a shorter cooldown than most other healing potions
implying you'll be using it more often

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(If you indeed can't quickheal with it I assume it's because it's somewhat valuable compared to other potions)

neat ember Dec 20, 2019, 1:46 AM

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no, like I want it to.

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I was just fighting wof and I had it at the top left of my inventory and quickheal still prioritized a damn mushroom

hollow shell Dec 20, 2019, 1:47 AM

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Have no other healing items in your inventory and try quickhealing with it

neat ember Dec 20, 2019, 1:49 AM

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alright it worked when I put it in my hotbar and got rid of the mushrooms

hollow shell Dec 20, 2019, 1:50 AM

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You know what the problem is?

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It prioritizes whatever's to the lower right in your inventory.

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You were putting it in the least priority spot

hollow idol Dec 20, 2019, 1:51 AM

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wth is that priority

signal prairie Dec 20, 2019, 1:51 AM

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Redcode

hollow shell Dec 20, 2019, 1:52 AM

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Don't know.
Works for me cuz I usually keep my healing potions at the lower right corner

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... hol up

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further testing required

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Nah I'm a dumbass, it's just whatever is the greatest heal

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For some reason one time out of whatever number of times
the mushroom took priority over the potion
and I don't know why

worthy fiber Dec 20, 2019, 2:10 AM

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I thought it was top to bottom 🤔

hollow shell Dec 20, 2019, 2:13 AM

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yeah but it's gotta do priority within the same row, right?

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it's probably not random

worthy fiber Dec 20, 2019, 2:14 AM

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Likely

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I assumed it went from left to right but right now I'm not so sure

neat ember Dec 20, 2019, 2:24 AM

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alright, I shoul test this

teal ibex Dec 20, 2019, 2:55 AM

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does boss rush stormweaver enrage outside of space?

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did an attempt today and triggered silva on him because he was so insane speed mode

hollow shell Dec 20, 2019, 2:56 AM

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Could just be his BR/Death speed

teal ibex Dec 20, 2019, 2:56 AM

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it seems like a LOT lol

hollow shell Dec 20, 2019, 2:58 AM

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From the looks of it...

yeah, seems like the space check does not take Boss Rush into account

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He's enraged

teal ibex Dec 20, 2019, 2:58 AM

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then lemme juuuuuuuuust

wide flicker Dec 20, 2019, 3:28 AM

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Wait a sec

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I never knew SW enraged outside of space

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The more you know

calm onyx Dec 20, 2019, 4:27 AM

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A teleport to space would be awesome. Losing silva to SW of all things is pain.

hollow shell Dec 20, 2019, 4:29 AM

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Problem is standing space isn't as guaranteed in space as it is in the underworld
also, gravity
Would be better to just have the enrage check for boss rush

swift bison Dec 20, 2019, 4:34 AM

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~~SW but she perma enrages in BR~~

hollow shell Dec 20, 2019, 4:39 AM

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~~she~~

solemn flame Dec 20, 2019, 4:39 AM

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Lol

#

it

swift bison Dec 20, 2019, 4:42 AM

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@hollow shell she.

solemn flame Dec 20, 2019, 4:43 AM

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They.

swift bison Dec 20, 2019, 4:43 AM

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i mean the statement about worm gender being indiscriminate means i'm not technically wrong

solemn flame Dec 20, 2019, 4:43 AM

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Turns out she's trans

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taxevasion

queen sail Dec 20, 2019, 4:44 AM

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~~lilac would approve~~

swift bison Dec 20, 2019, 4:45 AM

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HyperFailure

solemn flame Dec 20, 2019, 4:45 AM

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LUL

swift bison Dec 20, 2019, 4:45 AM

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a non sentient animal probably wouldn't have the concept of gender beyond it's biological sex

solemn flame Dec 20, 2019, 4:45 AM

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taxevasion

hollow shell Dec 20, 2019, 4:46 AM

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anyway

queen sail Dec 20, 2019, 4:46 AM

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PensiveDoGCowboy

teal ibex Dec 20, 2019, 4:49 AM

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Here's a round up of recently sent suggestions and how they stacked up for the devs. If your suggestion was not reacted to, there was either no opinion or a neutral opinion on your suggestion. If you have a suggestion older than a week with 90 stars, let me know so I can send it. Some suggestions are still pending, so if you recently received a green checkmark and haven't been posted here, please be patient!

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should've added the reactions first but whatever hecticCool

solemn flame Dec 20, 2019, 4:50 AM

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HDfailure

sand umbra Dec 20, 2019, 4:52 AM

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there's the reaction I was expecting for Ornate Shield bash-dash

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txvsn

solemn flame Dec 20, 2019, 4:53 AM

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taxevasion

hollow shell Dec 20, 2019, 4:53 AM

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(tbf it was only Ozza who voted)

sand umbra Dec 20, 2019, 4:53 AM

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(wait are you serious)

solemn flame Dec 20, 2019, 4:53 AM

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Woa

sand umbra Dec 20, 2019, 4:54 AM

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(I thought the idea of Ornate Shield becoming relevant would convince at least 2 or 3 peeps to weigh in on it megathink )

solemn flame Dec 20, 2019, 4:54 AM

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Yea

teal ibex Dec 20, 2019, 4:55 AM

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i think it mostly has to do with indecisiveness

sand umbra Dec 20, 2019, 4:56 AM

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how so?

teal ibex Dec 20, 2019, 4:56 AM

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a dash would make ornate shield cool, but there's 2 other dashes available by that point that might just make it the same situation

sand umbra Dec 20, 2019, 4:56 AM

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...wait what's the other one

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I know Cryo lore but what's the second

teal ibex Dec 20, 2019, 4:56 AM

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ok make that three hecticSmug

sand umbra Dec 20, 2019, 4:56 AM

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.

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nvm
I'm retarded CompleteFailure

teal ibex Dec 20, 2019, 4:56 AM

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i'm not saying equal level dashes, just dashes in general

sand umbra Dec 20, 2019, 4:56 AM

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SoC and Counter Scarf

teal ibex Dec 20, 2019, 4:57 AM

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ye, and scarf gets the dodge. so you're sitting on an effect that's somewhat contended with to begin

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that's my sort of takeaway anyway. though i personally don't think a dash is a bad compromise, that's probably why so many people went neutral on it

sand umbra Dec 20, 2019, 4:57 AM

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I mean, I can see how the existence of three other dashes at that point might cause a bit of an issue in itself

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but Cryo lore can be retooled as necessary and the OShield dash would likely be stronger than SoC/CS

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and tbf it's the most fitting thing I could come up with because Ankh Shield covers just about everything else Ech

teal ibex Dec 20, 2019, 4:58 AM

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right, but that extends a little further out of simply a dash, so it starts to push into a more grey area

sand umbra Dec 20, 2019, 4:59 AM

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mmm

teal ibex Dec 20, 2019, 4:59 AM

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it could be like a weaker paladin's shield tbh

sand umbra Dec 20, 2019, 4:59 AM

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ooo, that could be interesting

teal ibex Dec 20, 2019, 4:59 AM

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multiplayer functions bingPog

hollow shell Dec 20, 2019, 4:59 AM

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It's a bit weird that Cryo lore (and BoC lore, among others) get such major abilities
and then others are just like "minor stat boosts only in this one area"

teal ibex Dec 20, 2019, 4:59 AM

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ye cryo lore in particular is like woah

sand umbra Dec 20, 2019, 4:59 AM

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Cryo lore is literally a no-acc dash, why, again

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CompleteFailure

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for the cost of some defense that you'll hardly miss with all that new mobility you've just opened up

queen sail Dec 20, 2019, 5:00 AM

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Anyone else think Cnidrions need better ai

hollow shell Dec 20, 2019, 5:00 AM

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~~sised does~~

sand umbra Dec 20, 2019, 5:00 AM

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I do think Cryo lore could use a bit of a rework either way

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to be more unique and not just another dash

queen sail Dec 20, 2019, 5:01 AM

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“Hmmmm yes today I will attack the player by not showing where I am until it’s revealed that I’m actually on top of them because I use Mourning Wood AI”

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“Then proceed to beat them to death with contact damage”

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ech

hollow shell Dec 20, 2019, 5:01 AM

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How should such a big NPC operate in such a cramped area?

solemn flame Dec 20, 2019, 5:02 AM

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Like a big ncp in a cramped area

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LUL

sand umbra Dec 20, 2019, 5:02 AM

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make it a bit smaller, maybe

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I know it'd take a lotta spritework but that's a spot to start

queen sail Dec 20, 2019, 5:02 AM

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Maybe make the moving through blocks thing happen when it’s actually aggro’d

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And make it passive unless provoked

solemn flame Dec 20, 2019, 5:03 AM

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^

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Yes

sand umbra Dec 20, 2019, 5:03 AM

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Cnidrions are huge for an early-game opponent in an area as cramped as the Underground Desert

queen sail Dec 20, 2019, 5:03 AM

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Cnidrions and Tomb Crawlers are the sole reason I fear preboss underground desert

sand umbra Dec 20, 2019, 5:03 AM

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and they're consistently aggro'd on the player on spawn

queen sail Dec 20, 2019, 5:03 AM

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I’m just tryna find luxor’s gift, man

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ech

sand umbra Dec 20, 2019, 5:04 AM

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okay but like at least seeing a Cnidrion flop on your face is entertaining

queen sail Dec 20, 2019, 5:04 AM

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Stop sending not jellyfish in my face every 10 seconds please

sand umbra Dec 20, 2019, 5:04 AM

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this big fat seahorse just yeeting onto you because blocks exist

queen sail Dec 20, 2019, 5:04 AM

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I already have to deal with Antlion Chargers inflicting Dazed

sand umbra Dec 20, 2019, 5:04 AM

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there's nothing entertaining about having 5-6 Tomb Crawlers take up residence in your ass

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echdemon

solemn flame Dec 20, 2019, 5:05 AM

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hellyes

queen sail Dec 20, 2019, 5:05 AM

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Also tbh Thomas it was funny because BIGASS SEAHORSE OUT OF NOWHERE but then it just becomes annoying when you actually wanna explore

sand umbra Dec 20, 2019, 5:05 AM

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Tomb Crawlers are just horrible

hollow shell Dec 20, 2019, 5:06 AM

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Calamity already helps with those tho

sand umbra Dec 20, 2019, 5:06 AM

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that said, I do think Cnidrions could potentially be less aggressive, being calmer until provoked by hit

hollow shell Dec 20, 2019, 5:06 AM

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Makes em a lot squisher at the start

sand umbra Dec 20, 2019, 5:06 AM

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they might also benefit from some unique sounds past their water-spitting so you can tell where they are more consistently

queen sail Dec 20, 2019, 5:07 AM

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Calamity helps with what

hollow shell Dec 20, 2019, 5:07 AM

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Tomb Crawlers

sand umbra Dec 20, 2019, 5:07 AM

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Tomb Crawlers being fat and horrible

queen sail Dec 20, 2019, 5:07 AM

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Still annoying though :unexplainableemotion:

sand umbra Dec 20, 2019, 5:08 AM

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emotion

queen sail Dec 20, 2019, 5:08 AM

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Would rather delete Tomb Crawlers because they add nothing except pain especially preboss, thanks

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ech

sand umbra Dec 20, 2019, 5:08 AM

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thought:

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Tomb Crawlers post-DS

solemn flame Dec 20, 2019, 5:08 AM

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I don't mind them most times tbh

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Maybe lower their defense

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But not by much

sand umbra Dec 20, 2019, 5:09 AM

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they're stronger but spawn primarily in the deeper underground desert, with a much higher chance during sandstorms or once in Hardmode

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just an idle thought

solemn flame Dec 20, 2019, 5:10 AM

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But good loot is also at lower ud

hollow shell Dec 20, 2019, 5:10 AM

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post-Any Boss is probably better than just post-DS
cuz you never really need to fight DS

sand umbra Dec 20, 2019, 5:11 AM

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well yes but also DS is the token desert boss and is literally required to start a sandstorm

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if you don't fight DS, you don't get your ass ate by Tomb Crawlers, but if you do fight DS, you can get things like Burnt Sienna and commit the systematic genocide of the fuckers so they know who's boss
simple as that, really

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I understand nonlinearity is a focus here but there really needs to be a line drawn somewhere with this

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you never need to fight the Hive Mind or Perfs, yet Aerialite and by extension every boots upgrade past Frostsparks is locked behind them
you never need to fight Providence, but Uelibloom, Divine Geodes, and Bloodstone are all locked behind her
you never need to fight Polterghast, but all the Abyss drops and Bloodflare armor are locked behind it

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notice how, while none of these bosses are necessary to complete the game, defeating them grants rewards that you would not obtain otherwise

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fitting with its theme of the desert and what it is in Calamity's lore, yeeting DS starts a sandstorm, allows sandstorms to happen, basically unlocks the Sunken Sea, and generally improves the value of poking around the desert a bit more

green pumice Dec 20, 2019, 5:20 AM

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~~wait does it actually summon a sanstorm~~

sand umbra Dec 20, 2019, 5:20 AM

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it only seems fitting, thereby, that yeeting the desert worm boss unlocks a new desert worm enemy that won't annoy you otherwise, but drops some cool thing you can't get otherwise (in this case, the item in question is Burnt Sienna)

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yes it actually does summon a sandstorm on death: The desert winds are blowing fiercely!

green pumice Dec 20, 2019, 5:20 AM

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:themoreyouknow:

sand umbra Dec 20, 2019, 5:21 AM

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wesmart

cloud surge Dec 20, 2019, 6:24 AM

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Yes nerf tomb crawler spawns it's so amnoying

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They do so much damage and spawn in masses

hollow shell Dec 20, 2019, 6:29 AM

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(Calamity lowers their health by about half during Pre-Hardmode)

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(At the beginning of my playthrough I didn't have much trouble killing them
like at all)

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@hot dagger Anything about the sprite you feel could be improved?

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(also, resprite*)

topaz bramble Dec 20, 2019, 6:49 AM

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~~That's a bit inconsiderate to the person who made it, but alrighty~~

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~~You generally want you criticism to be constructive~~

wooden wedge Dec 20, 2019, 6:51 AM

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There's not even really a reason to the suggestion

hollow shell Dec 20, 2019, 6:52 AM

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It's another case of the
"post suggestion and then gtfo"

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I should be keeping a tally at this point

wooden wedge Dec 20, 2019, 6:52 AM

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I guess he just has some business to do

topaz bramble Dec 20, 2019, 6:53 AM

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you really should

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people uh

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don't like to be proven wrong

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pepega

hollow shell Dec 20, 2019, 6:54 AM

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yknow now I am keeping a tally
Starting now
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topaz bramble Dec 20, 2019, 6:54 AM

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alrighty boys it's official now

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Rover hitlist is real

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😎

wooden wedge Dec 20, 2019, 6:55 AM

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How can he hit them if they're not there

random flume Dec 20, 2019, 6:55 AM

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man said resprite and dipped

hollow shell Dec 20, 2019, 6:55 AM

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*respite

wooden wedge Dec 20, 2019, 6:55 AM

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Yes, he did

hollow shell Dec 20, 2019, 6:55 AM

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HDfailure

random flume Dec 20, 2019, 6:55 AM

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lel

hollow shell Dec 20, 2019, 6:56 AM

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@stiff oak Could you give some example minions?

stiff oak Dec 20, 2019, 6:56 AM

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uh so i had

topaz bramble Dec 20, 2019, 6:56 AM

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real talk what do you think these people are hoping to gain by being jackasses with their suggestions?

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Like

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saying

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GOD SPRITE SO BAD

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FIX

stiff oak Dec 20, 2019, 6:56 AM

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the conch

topaz bramble Dec 20, 2019, 6:56 AM

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makes you come off as a REALLY uncomftrable person to be around

random flume Dec 20, 2019, 6:57 AM

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just give summons magic missile ai and call it a day TaxEvasion

stiff oak Dec 20, 2019, 6:57 AM

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and the ancient ice chunk

topaz bramble Dec 20, 2019, 6:57 AM

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Nice™️

stiff oak Dec 20, 2019, 6:57 AM

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that one definitely had a problem with it's aggro range

topaz bramble Dec 20, 2019, 6:57 AM

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Controlable summons: Next Stygian weaver

stiff oak Dec 20, 2019, 6:57 AM

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as i had them zooming into the ground at times

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and flying out of their summon range

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coming back to me

hollow shell Dec 20, 2019, 6:57 AM

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Aight

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You could add them as examples
to your suggestion

topaz bramble Dec 20, 2019, 6:58 AM

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do you have it pinned to be specific with your suggestions? I can see that being something people easily miss when making suggestions

stiff oak Dec 20, 2019, 6:58 AM

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ah ok

topaz bramble Dec 20, 2019, 6:58 AM

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and a lot of them don't have mal intent, just a lack of specification

hollow shell Dec 20, 2019, 6:58 AM

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(Ice Clasper has indeed been brought up before in suggestions, but unfortunately it didn't get enough stars)

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Specificity and suggestions have a weird relationship

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because
we banned specific item suggestions

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but it is good to elaborate and specify on some things

topaz bramble Dec 20, 2019, 7:00 AM

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yeah that's fair

stiff oak Dec 20, 2019, 7:01 AM

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the conch was the worse

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as it was my only damage playing strict summoner only

queen sail Dec 20, 2019, 7:01 AM

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It’s good to specify on what you want but not be specific on literally everything

sand umbra Dec 20, 2019, 7:04 AM

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I'd agree with you if these two things weren't so easy to intertwine

topaz bramble Dec 20, 2019, 7:04 AM

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@hot dagger I agree the harvest staff does need a resprite, however here is not the place to ask about that, and if you do want it to get a resprite, consider going over to the calamity art server and making some resprites, I can getcha the link if you want

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blep

sand umbra Dec 20, 2019, 7:05 AM

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I can probably try to resprite it myself

~~right after someone explains to me what the fuck it's meant to look like~~

hollow shell Dec 20, 2019, 7:05 AM

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Planty staff
Pumpkin theme

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Could have a bit of fire.

sand umbra Dec 20, 2019, 7:06 AM

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gacha

topaz bramble Dec 20, 2019, 7:06 AM

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I would do it, but... that would be giving him what he wants, and I'm not sure how I feel about that Shibelaugh

sand umbra Dec 20, 2019, 7:08 AM

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do it anyway CompleteFailure

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~~god knows my 2 AM attempt won't be up to standards~~

topaz bramble Dec 20, 2019, 7:09 AM

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~~I've honestly always been kinda bad at resprites, I should probably do more of them so I suck less~~

frail mantle Dec 20, 2019, 7:13 AM

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Tbh can we add “suggestions that just say to resprite this thing or these things” to the Don’ts

topaz bramble Dec 20, 2019, 7:14 AM

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I'm down with that honestly

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most of the time it just comes across as disrespectful begging

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and if you want to improve the art of the mod, there's an entire community for it

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so like

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byeah, don't ask for resprites, make them yourself

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that's my view on it anyways

hollow shell Dec 20, 2019, 7:17 AM

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Well
to be fair

It takes a while to get good at spriting

hollow idol Dec 20, 2019, 7:17 AM

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the "do it yourself" arguement is a kinda iffy one in basically any scenario

hollow shell Dec 20, 2019, 7:17 AM

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and chances are your attempts won't get in

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yeah

topaz bramble Dec 20, 2019, 7:28 AM

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ok, that's fair

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it's moreso along the lines of just

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don't be a dick about it

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sorry, shoulda clarified that more

zenith hazel Dec 20, 2019, 10:28 AM

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@topaz lantern add a reason please

tepid root Dec 20, 2019, 10:30 AM

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war mode Echprime

topaz lantern Dec 20, 2019, 10:31 AM

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ok I will try

ruby cobalt Dec 20, 2019, 10:31 AM

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sharpener boss
sharpener boss

zenith hazel Dec 20, 2019, 10:31 AM

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have fun not breaking this rule

📎 unknown.png

topaz lantern Dec 20, 2019, 10:32 AM

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“The devs are already planning a great deal of content for the future” ok

swift wadi Dec 20, 2019, 10:32 AM

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That sounds sarcastic, they are

topaz lantern Dec 20, 2019, 10:33 AM

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no I said that as in, well that answered my question hopefully

swift wadi Dec 20, 2019, 10:33 AM

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Ah okay, my bad

topaz lantern Dec 20, 2019, 10:34 AM

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it’s all good

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Should I delete that to get my self out of trouble, in #suggestions-voting

swift wadi Dec 20, 2019, 10:37 AM

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You might aswell, it'll need to be fleshed out a lot more before being considered anyway, and even then it still breaks a "don't"

topaz lantern Dec 20, 2019, 10:38 AM

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ok

carmine spindle Dec 20, 2019, 12:10 PM

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Did anyone read Mrrabbit's suggestion, it was changed to Cores of chaos and eleum because they were considered OP

ruby cobalt Dec 20, 2019, 12:14 PM

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no, because there's no need to read suggestion that clearly missed the point in time where the change happened and didn't call it "revert the nerf"

carmine spindle Dec 20, 2019, 12:15 PM

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Ah

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Sorry for that

swift wadi Dec 20, 2019, 12:39 PM

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Doesn't DoG have damage resistance, making things like RTN actually really strong for him?

ruby cobalt Dec 20, 2019, 12:39 PM

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he has DR

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RTN does nothing with DR

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e

swift wadi Dec 20, 2019, 12:40 PM

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Waot misread

ruby cobalt Dec 20, 2019, 12:40 PM

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also obligatory BUT MY LORE!!!111!1!!

swift wadi Dec 20, 2019, 12:40 PM

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Rtn doesn't work on dr?

ruby cobalt Dec 20, 2019, 12:41 PM

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RTN does jack shit for DR

distant gyro Dec 20, 2019, 12:41 PM

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rtn gives armor pen

ruby cobalt Dec 20, 2019, 12:41 PM

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armor penetration only works on defense

swift wadi Dec 20, 2019, 12:41 PM

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I thought it was good vs dog, i got recommended it for him a few weeks back and it seemed ok

ruby cobalt Dec 20, 2019, 12:41 PM

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yes because it gives you +25% damage

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you're not using it for armor penetration

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you're using it for flat damage increase

swift wadi Dec 20, 2019, 12:42 PM

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Problem is, from a gameplay standpoint, wouldn't making him have armor make him actually weaker in a way? If you traded dr for it

ruby cobalt Dec 20, 2019, 12:42 PM

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it would

swift wadi Dec 20, 2019, 12:42 PM

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Because of items like rtn

ruby cobalt Dec 20, 2019, 12:42 PM

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in fact it would buff RTN slightly

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and also buff omega blue

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which means another round of retesting the entire tier

swift wadi Dec 20, 2019, 12:43 PM

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Yeah because it's post Polter, it would be a must grab item

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And the only way to counter that is giving him so much armor that RTN is balanced, but that would make it almost necessary to beat him

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Or, having to nerf RTN, putting it in its niche spot again

ruby cobalt Dec 20, 2019, 12:44 PM

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tl;dr - what the fuck even are you doing and where are your arguments that can't be dismissed with "stop bringing lore in" and "why the fuck would you do that"

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bring in the next sugma please

swift wadi Dec 20, 2019, 12:45 PM

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What's sugma?

ruby cobalt Dec 20, 2019, 12:45 PM

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:)

distant gyro Dec 20, 2019, 12:46 PM

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:) (modern lingo for suggestion HDfailure )

obtuse thicket Dec 20, 2019, 12:54 PM

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:)

quiet abyss Dec 20, 2019, 1:18 PM

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@crimson jackal
1.) Remember that not all lore elements have to play a part in gameplay if not necessary.
2.) DoG has no defense, yes, but he has a whopping 92% (95% on death) DR on his body. Throwing defense into the mix would make balancing weapons that'll be used against him more complicated and would need a bunch of retesting.
3.) When people use reaper tooth necklace for DoG, they mainly use reaper tooth necklace for its flat damage boost rather than its armor penetration anyways, as 25% damage boost is nothing to scoff at. The 100 armor penetration doesn't need to have an immediate purpose for RTN to be useful for DoG.

hearty yew Dec 20, 2019, 1:42 PM

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@quiet abyss @crimson jackal no idea what you're talking about; final form body segments have 70 defense

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RTN will vastly increase the amount of chip damage you're able to do vs him

quiet abyss Dec 20, 2019, 1:42 PM

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Oh huh right, I forgot that's a thing now.

hearty yew Dec 20, 2019, 1:42 PM

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Yep

quiet abyss Dec 20, 2019, 1:42 PM

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I'm so used to seeing him with 0 def on both phases slobbyjoy

hearty yew Dec 20, 2019, 1:42 PM

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Phase 2 head has 50 defense

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RTN will delete that entirely

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So it's 100% worth considering he's immune to debuffs

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You get the full value of the accessory

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In fact he has defense in both phase 1 and 2

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50/70/50 head body tail

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Phase 2 95.5% DR (death 97%)
Phase 1 92.5% DR (death 95%)

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These numbers were slightly increased when DR was made weaker

distant gyro Dec 20, 2019, 1:45 PM

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~~outdated wiki strikes again~~

hearty yew Dec 20, 2019, 1:45 PM

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which is also why he gained defense, cause he was pretty significantly vulnerable to chip damage after DR math got fixed -- which is okay, but now you need RTN to really capitalize on that strategy

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You fix it then

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I just read this from source

distant gyro Dec 20, 2019, 1:47 PM

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done

hearty yew Dec 20, 2019, 1:48 PM

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TL;DR your suggestion is already implemented.

quiet abyss Dec 20, 2019, 1:50 PM

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Huh 🤔

zenith hazel Dec 20, 2019, 2:13 PM

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if terratomere's projectiles can heal then the base damage should be nerfed

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wait a second, this seems familiar

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either way, add a reason @full wadi

night cradle Dec 20, 2019, 2:14 PM

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they used to heal

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but when the healing was being nerfed on some melee weapons, the projectile healing from terratomere was removed
same case with terra edge
now it's only on enemy hits

full wadi Dec 20, 2019, 2:16 PM

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just feel like there is not many opportunities to get in swing range at this point in the game, especially on bosses

green pumice Dec 20, 2019, 2:23 PM

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honestly

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terratomere is really only used on ml

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and even then since true eyes got yeeted hes been much easier

ashen warren Dec 20, 2019, 2:23 PM

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terratomere requires no skill to use

green pumice Dec 20, 2019, 2:24 PM

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not necessarily

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it still takes somewhat aim

ashen warren Dec 20, 2019, 2:24 PM

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lol

green pumice Dec 20, 2019, 2:25 PM

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~~i said somewhat smh~~

gritty flower Dec 20, 2019, 2:45 PM

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I feel like since they have a recurring shortsword theme (most vanilla broadswords have a shortsword equivalent) they could make a shortsword equivalent for every sword, just to shake things up a little bit and maybe provide a challenge for the people who want it, I don’t know about you guys, but a Shortsword version of Earth, Meowmere, and the Exoblade sounds pretty fun.

frail mantle Dec 20, 2019, 2:46 PM

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sounds like it'd just be unnecessary bloat tbh

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Calamity already adds a shitton of swords

night cradle Dec 20, 2019, 2:49 PM

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^

frail mantle Dec 20, 2019, 2:49 PM

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besides "to make playing with this subclass from the start of the game to the end possible" isn't really good reasoning

night cradle Dec 20, 2019, 2:49 PM

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melee is already bloated with weapons

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and yeah, subclasses aren't really meant to be played in one full playthrough or they shouldn't just be

queen sail Dec 20, 2019, 2:49 PM

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Aquatic Dissolution

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ech

gritty flower Dec 20, 2019, 2:50 PM

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So we can’t have the

Meowboop?

queen sail Dec 20, 2019, 2:50 PM

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More weapons means variety but at the same time means nothing if there’s other and much more viable options that’s become the meta

night cradle Dec 20, 2019, 2:50 PM

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yes (replying to Kirby)

queen sail Dec 20, 2019, 2:50 PM

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And no we can’t taxevasion

gritty flower Dec 20, 2019, 2:50 PM

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ech BearWatchingYou damn

queen sail Dec 20, 2019, 2:54 PM

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e.g Last Mourning is a nice melee wep for post ml but it exists at the same time as Soul Edge

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@ashen warren 1. Why
2. Why

ashen warren Dec 20, 2019, 2:55 PM

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a

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well

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more difficulty?

wooden wedge Dec 20, 2019, 2:55 PM

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That's not really a reason

queen sail Dec 20, 2019, 2:56 PM

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He already adjusts his jump height ech

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Flying would just make him annoying

ashen warren Dec 20, 2019, 2:56 PM

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ok

willow lodge Dec 20, 2019, 2:56 PM

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I’d say the way he teleports on top of you is already more difficult than flying toward you

zenith hazel Dec 20, 2019, 2:57 PM

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read suggestion don’ts doc in pins, reworking early game/easy bosses isn’t really allowed

ashen warren Dec 20, 2019, 2:57 PM

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ok i'll delete that

gritty flower Dec 20, 2019, 3:01 PM

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Though, I think you’re on to something. At his current state, Slime King is super easy to trap in an NPC house, the flying would probably be a dab of difficulty on like, Death mode or something, especially if he was to go through blocks during his flight period. @ashen warren

queen sail Dec 20, 2019, 3:02 PM

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...

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You know he can teleport, right

gritty flower Dec 20, 2019, 3:03 PM

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oH ReALlY???

wooden wedge Dec 20, 2019, 3:03 PM

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He teleports through blocks

night cradle Dec 20, 2019, 3:03 PM

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that was a feature from 1.3, even

gritty flower Dec 20, 2019, 3:03 PM

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I’m well aware he can tp

queen sail Dec 20, 2019, 3:04 PM

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If you want a harder king slime ask Terry to beat you to death

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ech

gritty flower Dec 20, 2019, 3:04 PM

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...

frail mantle Dec 20, 2019, 3:05 PM

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tbh KS commiting the biome mimic fly thing would probably be pretty echsupreme because players in that part of the game wouldn't really have good enough movement to dodge it

gritty flower Dec 20, 2019, 3:06 PM

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The tp is worse in terms of dodging, unless you are on a platform above water, then he just kinda derps.

frail mantle Dec 20, 2019, 3:07 PM

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he tps to the place you were in when he starts the tp, so you can just move away from that position iirc

radiant meadow Dec 20, 2019, 3:33 PM

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@crimson jackal pretty sure he has defense now

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Wiki may be outdated

elder mist Dec 20, 2019, 3:41 PM

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and even then, armor giving just DR and no defense also makes logical sense...?? am I missing something here

green pumice Dec 20, 2019, 3:43 PM

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it was already addressed by ozza and pinkie

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youthinkyouresafe

queen sail Dec 20, 2019, 4:35 PM

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I just wanna say, like

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The most recent sugma is the one of the only few that gets a reaction that isn’t any of the main ones

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ech

distant gyro Dec 20, 2019, 4:37 PM

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Calamity GOD suggestion was a while ago ye

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HDfailure

tepid root Dec 20, 2019, 4:39 PM

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wait did someone suggest ks growing wings and flying

queen sail Dec 20, 2019, 4:39 PM

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~~well not wings but~~ ye

tepid root Dec 20, 2019, 4:39 PM

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amazing

queen sail Dec 20, 2019, 4:39 PM

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Giving KS biome mimic flying ai to increase difficulty

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Make him impossible to feel like a winner

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ech

tepid root Dec 20, 2019, 4:40 PM

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ks turns into slime god at this point silence

queen sail Dec 20, 2019, 4:41 PM

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Slime God (boss) Slime God (boss)

sand umbra Dec 20, 2019, 4:59 PM

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did I hear KS with Biome Mimic AI

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HyperEthanJudge

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come the fuck on, people

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there's no reason to buff KS into a bootleg Slime God

queen sail Dec 20, 2019, 4:59 PM

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“But muh harder difficulty so I can flex”

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HDfailure

sand umbra Dec 20, 2019, 5:00 PM

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Slime God is already a horrible fight because that kind of AI on two King-sized targets is a recipe for disaster

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we don't need the same deal for the very first boss of the game

queen sail Dec 20, 2019, 5:00 PM

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He teleports on you already so idek why

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ech

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And he can adjust his jump height so you can’t just stay 5 stories above him on a platform and walk around to dodge the ruby turret

sand umbra Dec 20, 2019, 5:04 PM

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yeah KS is already hard enough on each difficulty

hallow kraken Dec 20, 2019, 5:15 PM

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Give him biome mimic AI and reintroduce his pre-rework light speed teleports

distant gyro Dec 20, 2019, 5:15 PM

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give KS fighter AI CompleteFailure

hallow kraken Dec 20, 2019, 5:17 PM

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the lad just walks up to you

umbral mulch Dec 20, 2019, 5:17 PM

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Make KS harder so we have an excuse to get a dash pre EoC taxevasion

gusty geode Dec 20, 2019, 5:17 PM

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You know a suggestion did something wrong when one of the reactions isn't in the legend HyperFailure

queen sail Dec 20, 2019, 5:34 PM

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ech

ashen warren Dec 20, 2019, 6:13 PM

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@crimson jackal Reaper tooth necklace also gives 25% increase to all damage. Pretty sure he already has defense as well.

elder mist Dec 20, 2019, 6:14 PM

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smh rover removing reactions,,

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disappoint

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no fun zone :\

queen sail Dec 20, 2019, 6:15 PM

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Ein is about to be warned now....,,,,.,.,.,,,.

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PensiveDoGCowboy

ashen warren Dec 20, 2019, 6:20 PM

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Target Potion

This potion would increase enemy aggro towards you so you are always targeted first.
Why?: This would make it so that bosses don't randomly target players which makes it hard to predict patterns.
thoughts?

queen sail Dec 20, 2019, 6:22 PM

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Sounds

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Situational

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:peepodetective:

quartz hare Dec 20, 2019, 6:22 PM

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Sounds
~~Useful~~ like specific item suggestion

teal ibex Dec 20, 2019, 6:27 PM

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yeah that seems great but is exactly a specific item so

quartz hare Dec 20, 2019, 6:28 PM

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so ban

tepid root Dec 20, 2019, 6:30 PM

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tfw hectique's sugg hasnt been here for more than a day but it has more than 100 stars

green pumice Dec 20, 2019, 6:46 PM

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peepoDetective who enjoys being soniced by storm worm

wide flicker Dec 20, 2019, 6:47 PM

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It is very necessary tbh

swift bison Dec 20, 2019, 6:51 PM

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i beat her while enraged in BR lole

tepid root Dec 20, 2019, 6:56 PM

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bruh

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leviathan is like, really fucking big, a resprite for her doesnt sound that easy :/

queen sail Dec 20, 2019, 6:57 PM

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Boutta just

tepid root Dec 20, 2019, 6:58 PM

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also i heard theres already one in the works?

queen sail Dec 20, 2019, 6:58 PM

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Ask rover to make suggesting resprites a yesn’t

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Also yes

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The new levi is done

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It just needs animating

tepid root Dec 20, 2019, 6:58 PM

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only anims

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e

void urchin Dec 20, 2019, 6:58 PM

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Oh it is

queen sail Dec 20, 2019, 6:58 PM

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And imagine animating something that big

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Big ech moment

tepid root Dec 20, 2019, 6:58 PM

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lemme try to dig it up from whatever

void urchin Dec 20, 2019, 6:59 PM

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It’s can be done it just takes a while

queen sail Dec 20, 2019, 6:59 PM

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📎 image0.jpg

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@tepid root HDfailure

tepid root Dec 20, 2019, 6:59 PM

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gaming

queen sail Dec 20, 2019, 6:59 PM

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This is by Nitro

void urchin Dec 20, 2019, 6:59 PM

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Woah

tepid root Dec 20, 2019, 6:59 PM

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thought so

void urchin Dec 20, 2019, 6:59 PM

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That’s much better

queen sail Dec 20, 2019, 6:59 PM

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Atm she’s doin’ yharon

void urchin Dec 20, 2019, 7:00 PM

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Just do one at a time

queen sail Dec 20, 2019, 7:00 PM

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Well

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She is

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HDfailure

void urchin Dec 20, 2019, 7:00 PM

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Does yharon really need a resprite though

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It already looks fine

elder mist Dec 20, 2019, 7:00 PM

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its just as outdated as leviathan

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well, a bit more

queen sail Dec 20, 2019, 7:01 PM

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Yharon’s one of the oldest sprites

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Also if you check #mod-announcements you can see the new Siren

sage copper Dec 20, 2019, 7:09 PM

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wait

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if they updated the Siren, they will update all the waifus?

green pumice Dec 20, 2019, 7:11 PM

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sage copper Dec 20, 2019, 7:11 PM

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ech

green pumice Dec 20, 2019, 7:11 PM

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or atleast not now

sage copper Dec 20, 2019, 7:12 PM

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if they do it ill be so happy

green pumice Dec 20, 2019, 7:38 PM

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doubt it

potent veldt Dec 20, 2019, 7:44 PM

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Yharon and Leviathan's sprites are just as chonky as one another

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Lev's just looks worse and more jarring because she's massive

hollow shell Dec 20, 2019, 7:46 PM

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@crimson jackal The Devourer of Gods does have defense.
50 on head and tail, 70 on body.
Not only that, but his body segments have a ridiculously high amount of DR

~~This is on the wiki.~~ Nevermind it just got added today. Wew.

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~~also @elder mist I haven't been online until now~~

elder mist Dec 20, 2019, 7:53 PM

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sad

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who else has perms then

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wtf

hollow shell Dec 20, 2019, 7:53 PM

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Any mod, probably

elder mist Dec 20, 2019, 7:53 PM

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oh

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termi

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probably

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unamusedW

hollow idol Dec 20, 2019, 7:58 PM

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“Lev's just looks worse and more jarring because she's massive”
Iirc the sprite is downsized ingame so HDfailure

opal barn Dec 20, 2019, 8:14 PM

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When are the suggestions about redoing sprites going to be in the don'ts

queen sail Dec 20, 2019, 8:14 PM

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When Rover puts em in the doc

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ech

hollow shell Dec 20, 2019, 8:15 PM

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[Resprite] is a valid thing in the suggestion delivery system

I guess I can just list all the ones that are already planned

opal barn Dec 20, 2019, 8:16 PM

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They always get the same response

gusty geode Dec 20, 2019, 8:16 PM

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~~Tbf how long ago was that respite supposed to come~~

opal barn Dec 20, 2019, 8:16 PM

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either "they will get resprited" or "they look fine"

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I don't really see the point in these suggestions

void kelp Dec 20, 2019, 8:16 PM

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honestly yeah

hollow idol Dec 20, 2019, 8:17 PM

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I mean, what if someone suggests something like “change the yellow on mauler because the water is different now” for example

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~~actually heck my only suggestion that ever got in was a resprite one~~

gusty geode Dec 20, 2019, 8:18 PM

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That's actually a good point
New water color could probably mean resprites for most, if not all sulphur sea enemies

void kelp Dec 20, 2019, 8:18 PM

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honestly that one is more like a consistency change which imo is fine

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but then like