#suggestions-discussion | Calamity Mod Discord | Page 721

elfin maple Nov 3, 2019, 11:13 PM

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hmm

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how would that work for modded classes

hollow saffron Nov 3, 2019, 11:15 PM

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mixed class playthroughs be like

elfin maple Nov 3, 2019, 11:15 PM

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it probably wouldn't

lost agate Nov 3, 2019, 11:15 PM

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I have a funny feeling it would freak the fuck out in MP

hollow saffron Nov 3, 2019, 11:15 PM

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also i usually only have 2 weapons in my hotbar

elfin maple Nov 3, 2019, 11:15 PM

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yeah

hollow saffron Nov 3, 2019, 11:15 PM

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same shucks

elfin maple Nov 3, 2019, 11:15 PM

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everything breaks in mp

hollow saffron Nov 3, 2019, 11:15 PM

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multiplayer is already laggy enough lol

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no need to add more stress on the server

elfin maple Nov 3, 2019, 11:16 PM

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terraria also has very strange code

hollow saffron Nov 3, 2019, 11:16 PM

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yeah

elfin maple Nov 3, 2019, 11:16 PM

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i mean

hollow saffron Nov 3, 2019, 11:16 PM

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redcode hurts

elfin maple Nov 3, 2019, 11:16 PM

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entity entanglement be like

hollow saffron Nov 3, 2019, 11:16 PM

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entanglement?

elfin maple Nov 3, 2019, 11:16 PM

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oh it's a sort-of glitch

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i shouldn't explain it here

hollow saffron Nov 3, 2019, 11:17 PM

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i was thinking quantum entanglement lol

elfin maple Nov 3, 2019, 11:17 PM

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you're about right

hollow saffron Nov 3, 2019, 11:17 PM

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uh'

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so when one entity is observed by the player, another one on the other side of the world(spawn limit moment) gets observed and its state is simultaneously determined?

elfin maple Nov 3, 2019, 11:18 PM

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it's just really weird and maybe you can entangle players and two people control the same player

hollow saffron Nov 3, 2019, 11:18 PM

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wait what

elfin maple Nov 3, 2019, 11:18 PM

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idk

hollow saffron Nov 3, 2019, 11:18 PM

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darylsweating

elfin maple Nov 3, 2019, 11:18 PM

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we're getting off topic

hollow saffron Nov 3, 2019, 11:18 PM

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yeah

zenith hazel Nov 4, 2019, 1:36 AM

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@ashen warren don’t separate your messages like that when suggesting

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combine them or something

ashen warren Nov 4, 2019, 1:37 AM

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done

zenith hazel Nov 4, 2019, 1:37 AM

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not like that

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resuggest it so you get the suggestionbot star @ashen warren

ashen warren Nov 4, 2019, 1:41 AM

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done^2

hearty yew Nov 4, 2019, 5:10 AM

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@tropic yoke i'm glad you're a fan of change #59, it was a spur of the moment thing as you can see in #mod-announcements.

I programmed it, and I'd be happy to add this to it. If you can tell me how to edit NPC death messages during runtime (and/or actually get the Angler to gib instead of just disappearing in a puff of smoke), let me know and I'll implement it.

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until then, while I'm sure your suggestion will get enough stars to be approved, i don't think we'll be able to make it happen

elfin maple Nov 4, 2019, 6:10 AM

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i'll look into it for you guys

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time to source code dive

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redcode is the bane of all existence but i'll give it a shot

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apparently terraria has a child safety mode that censors blood and gore

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i have no idea why i ended up in ChildSafety.cs in the first place, maybe because angler doesn't die like other npcs

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wait there are different death messages from dying from teleporting depending on the player's gender

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oh for "his" and "her"

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FINALLY i found something related to the angler's death message

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or not i'm not exactly sure

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actually it being the only instance of "... has left" i could find it probably is

tired haven Nov 4, 2019, 6:41 AM

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Yes, he can only leave rn

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thinkies

elfin maple Nov 4, 2019, 6:43 AM

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that's it i give up

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i feel like all empathetic emotions i used to feel have been replaced with a deep desire for violence

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how the hell does this game even run

queen sail Nov 4, 2019, 6:47 AM

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It Just Works™

elfin maple Nov 4, 2019, 6:48 AM

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due to terraria's anomalous property of being able to run despite it's code it has been taken in by the scp foundation to be contained

hearty plaza Nov 4, 2019, 6:50 AM

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terraria doesn't work too much though

elfin maple Nov 4, 2019, 6:50 AM

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anyways the closest i got to figuring this out was line 853 of Content.en-US.Legacy.json and line 341 of Lang.cs

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if that helps at all

loud crest Nov 4, 2019, 6:53 AM

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Honestly, considering I've got about 60+ mods in tow, I'm honestly surprised I can even run my game.

elfin maple Nov 4, 2019, 6:54 AM

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massive respect to the tmod devs for making it actually usable

placid moth Nov 4, 2019, 7:43 AM

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@glacial gate Lunic Eye's damage comes from all the damage boosts on all classes iirc

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We'd leave all the potion ingredients and stuff to AlchNPC too.

zenith hazel Nov 4, 2019, 7:50 AM

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offtopic channel suggestions are on the suggestion don’ts doc @carmine sphinx

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an offtopic channel was hellish to deal with for the moderators, no need to bring it back

carmine sphinx Nov 4, 2019, 7:51 AM

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Thats why i tought of the 6 hour slowmode

zenith hazel Nov 4, 2019, 7:51 AM

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it’s still an offtopic channel

carmine sphinx Nov 4, 2019, 7:51 AM

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And yes im aware even that might not work

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Well ok then

zenith hazel Nov 4, 2019, 7:54 AM

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Fab hates alchNPC so an NPC that sells potion ingredients probably won’t sit well with him

glacial gate Nov 4, 2019, 7:57 AM

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Yeah the potion npc I use isnt even from alchNPC, its legit just one potion seller. From the dude working on waves of aeternos or whatever its called

zenith hazel Nov 4, 2019, 7:58 AM

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then it’s another mod’s work, not calamity’s

glacial gate Nov 4, 2019, 7:59 AM

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Fair enough. Just felt like it might be a nice qol thing, which is why I also suggeated maybe botanists or biologists

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Either way it's one of the least concerning things for me

zenith hazel Nov 4, 2019, 8:00 AM

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again, Fab won’t like that because it’s lazy

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NPCs like those trivialize the farming process

glacial gate Nov 4, 2019, 8:00 AM

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Double fair

zenith hazel Nov 4, 2019, 8:01 AM

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not really the channel for that

glacial gate Nov 4, 2019, 8:04 AM

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Yeah upon looking back the only things that can be a pain to grind for that arent boss loot (which you rarely need to grind for potion wise) is like victide shards or worm teeth, since I'm in a crimson world. Botanist would still be nice but eh, actual farming isnt terrible, just something I forget about a lot

zenith hazel Nov 4, 2019, 8:05 AM

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you can farm worm teeth by fighting hive mind since it spawns devourers, victory shards are easily obtainable via DS and EoC

glacial gate Nov 4, 2019, 8:07 AM

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Oh I forgot about hive mind ngl, though farming the devourers is a bit harder being a summoner since the minions just tear through whatever is nearby, and immediately turn back to anything that moves after their specific target is dead.

I just all in all forgot about DS and EoC having them ngl

wary flume Nov 4, 2019, 10:21 AM

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Can just battle potion and water candle the underground corrupt

hollow saffron Nov 4, 2019, 12:21 PM

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@mystic widget send a reason smh

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add*

mystic widget Nov 4, 2019, 12:21 PM

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because ther are no hardmode calamity mounts

hollow saffron Nov 4, 2019, 12:22 PM

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something better than that

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why does it matter that there are like no hardmode calamity mounts?

hallow kraken Nov 4, 2019, 12:22 PM

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Sounds like a specific item

hollow saffron Nov 4, 2019, 12:22 PM

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is it something that is completely apocalyptic?

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its still possible to do a playthrough using only mounts

mystic widget Nov 4, 2019, 12:23 PM

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it would be nice

sand umbra Nov 4, 2019, 12:23 PM

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its still possible to do a playthrough using only mounts

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what kind of an argument is this

hollow saffron Nov 4, 2019, 12:23 PM

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'it would be nice' honestly isnt really much of a reason

sand umbra Nov 4, 2019, 12:23 PM

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you do realize what a mount is, correct

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a mount isn't something you attack with.

hollow saffron Nov 4, 2019, 12:24 PM

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i mean for movement

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provided you get the slimy saddle/dog mount

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and after that point you only move using mounts

distant gyro Nov 4, 2019, 12:25 PM

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@mystic widget

📎 Pic.png

sand umbra Nov 4, 2019, 12:25 PM

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The addition of a wider variety of mounts would not only allow for the potential for more creative ideas with mounts to begin with, but also provide a wider array of transportation options that aren't completely obsolete due to Calamity's very existence.

mystic widget Nov 4, 2019, 12:25 PM

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calamity doesn't add any new flying mounts untill post-moon lord

hollow saffron Nov 4, 2019, 12:25 PM

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Well @sand umbra you have a better reason then crabulon did

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Lol

mystic widget Nov 4, 2019, 12:26 PM

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make them unique too

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the brimrose mount is just a slightly faster ufo mount

hollow saffron Nov 4, 2019, 12:26 PM

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its up to the devs to decide what mounts they add in

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brimrose is postML

mystic widget Nov 4, 2019, 12:27 PM

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i know

sand umbra Nov 4, 2019, 12:27 PM

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Worried they'll be too powerful for general play? Lock 'em to higher difficulties, as there's plenty of precedent; literally half of Calamity's mounts are locked to Revengeance Mode, though keep in mind that that's another thing that may bother those looking for a wider variety of things to ride off into the sunset.

hollow saffron Nov 4, 2019, 12:27 PM

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besides there is that one dragon mount

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and there IS also fab's mount from dog

distant gyro Nov 4, 2019, 12:27 PM

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~~well fuck; I guess all flying mounts are bootleg ufos then~~

hollow saffron Nov 4, 2019, 12:27 PM

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lol

sand umbra Nov 4, 2019, 12:27 PM

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yes, Fab's Rev-locked mount from DoG that requires opening his bag while drunk

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CompleteFailure

distant gyro Nov 4, 2019, 12:27 PM

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CompleteFailure

mystic widget Nov 4, 2019, 12:28 PM

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no but the brimrose is infinite and doesn't land

distant gyro Nov 4, 2019, 12:28 PM

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brimrose accelerates

hollow saffron Nov 4, 2019, 12:28 PM

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and?

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ye

distant gyro Nov 4, 2019, 12:28 PM

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ufo's don't afaik

hollow saffron Nov 4, 2019, 12:28 PM

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what atlix said

mystic widget Nov 4, 2019, 12:29 PM

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what about a hadarian mount

sand umbra Nov 4, 2019, 12:29 PM

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The point is, there are no real drawbacks and plenty of potential advantages to adding a wider array of mounts to the game. More creativity with mobility options and dodging strategies, more variety at points that may sorely lack it aesthetically or just flavor-wise in general, etc. It's a prospect that would ultimately benefit the mod as a whole for all parties involved.

mystic widget Nov 4, 2019, 12:29 PM

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hadarians have no use other than getting wings

hollow saffron Nov 4, 2019, 12:29 PM

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Crab dont ask for specific items

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lol

mystic widget Nov 4, 2019, 12:29 PM

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ok

hollow saffron Nov 4, 2019, 12:29 PM

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checkpins

sand umbra Nov 4, 2019, 12:29 PM

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Why am I making a point about this when I don't really care about mounts? That's for me to know and for you to find out.

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Thank you for coming to my TED Talk.

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🛫

hollow saffron Nov 4, 2019, 12:29 PM

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ok thomas

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👏

distant gyro Nov 4, 2019, 12:30 PM

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ye

mystic widget Nov 4, 2019, 12:30 PM

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👏

distant gyro Nov 4, 2019, 12:30 PM

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I'mma go continue verifying data sheet on boss rush, bye HDfailure

hollow saffron Nov 4, 2019, 12:30 PM

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bye

granite owl Nov 4, 2019, 1:20 PM

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what about gaze of crysthabruh

📎 unknown.png

distant gyro Nov 4, 2019, 1:20 PM

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that's post-darksun which is post-ml

lost agate Nov 4, 2019, 1:20 PM

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~~why does people like to add bruh to all the items they refer to?~~

granite owl Nov 4, 2019, 1:20 PM

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you don't really need mounts

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because i don't remember how that item is called

acoustic ferry Nov 4, 2019, 1:21 PM

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bruh is just a fun word to say

distant gyro Nov 4, 2019, 1:21 PM

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I already tell em that

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HDfailure

livid coral Nov 4, 2019, 1:24 PM

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I'd like more preHM mounts. I desire a seahorse mount

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So I can give Amidias tha line "Why are you riding my children?"

proven tide Nov 4, 2019, 1:24 PM

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@solemn flame A) other attacks in what sense and B) wy tho

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that'd

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not even be in the top five worst lines in the mod

livid coral Nov 4, 2019, 1:24 PM

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Don't worry the worst/best line still goes to the Wizard

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"I'd let Permafrost coldheart MY icicle!"

proven tide Nov 4, 2019, 1:25 PM

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Winner's got to go to I'd l

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wow okay

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sad

solemn flame Nov 4, 2019, 1:25 PM

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A) not physical attacks like his solar flares B) he is the only being keeping the immensely powerful moonlord under control. He would probably also be very mentally stable

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He seems more psychic than summoner

livid coral Nov 4, 2019, 1:26 PM

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(I do have more NPC lines that will be added)

sand umbra Nov 4, 2019, 1:26 PM

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~~I forgot how godly the reactions NPCs have to mounts can be~~

distant gyro Nov 4, 2019, 1:26 PM

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NPC quotes in general though

livid coral Nov 4, 2019, 1:26 PM

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I had a lot of fun with the Bandit lines

sand umbra Nov 4, 2019, 1:27 PM

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Hey, if government officials can get tax, why can't I?

lost agate Nov 4, 2019, 1:28 PM

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mental damage

sand umbra Nov 4, 2019, 1:28 PM

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the Bandit is the single greatest thing to come of this update and you cannot convince me otherwise

lost agate Nov 4, 2019, 1:28 PM

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How do you even.

livid coral Nov 4, 2019, 1:29 PM

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I'll probably get official art of her soonish

proven tide Nov 4, 2019, 1:29 PM

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still haven't even downloaded the update let alone launched the game

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thi

sand umbra Nov 4, 2019, 1:30 PM

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you should do that™

queen sail Nov 4, 2019, 1:30 PM

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LC reminds you that everyone is dead, thus giving the player mental trauma and depression, slowing down their speed to 10%

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ech

sand umbra Nov 4, 2019, 1:30 PM

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it's a Good Update™

acoustic ferry Nov 4, 2019, 1:30 PM

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you can get mental damage by causing the player themselves to undergo physical pain
because their character is constantly getting confused and instakilled for no reason

lost agate Nov 4, 2019, 1:31 PM

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taxevasion

acoustic ferry Nov 4, 2019, 1:32 PM

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AmidiasEvasion

sand umbra Nov 4, 2019, 1:37 PM

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AmidiasEvasion

elfin swan Nov 4, 2019, 1:47 PM

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AmidiasEvasion

opal barn Nov 4, 2019, 1:47 PM

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Nice emote chain you guys have going on here

lost agate Nov 4, 2019, 1:52 PM

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I only posted it for the message GWseremePeepoLife

proven tide Nov 4, 2019, 1:57 PM

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let's just get ben in here to react again

terse sundial Nov 4, 2019, 1:58 PM

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HDfailure

hollow saffron Nov 4, 2019, 2:05 PM

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mental damage?

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are we like, trying to scar people

tired haven Nov 4, 2019, 2:26 PM

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Given the existence of scal, yes

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echthink

lost agate Nov 4, 2019, 2:28 PM

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But we talking LC here so like

tired haven Nov 4, 2019, 2:33 PM

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Well, nothing really bothers us, along with one big brimstone scar, to leave another smaller one on a nose or smth

distant gyro Nov 4, 2019, 2:34 PM

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CompleteFailure

tired haven Nov 4, 2019, 2:34 PM

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This suggestion was just quite badly phrased, I believe (or I just try to invigorate it for w/e reason)

ashen warren Nov 4, 2019, 2:35 PM

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lunatic cultist makes you bleed hyperrealistic blood

distant gyro Nov 4, 2019, 2:40 PM

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@mellow bay whoopsie but you can already buy paintball gun

sand umbra Nov 4, 2019, 2:40 PM

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ye, latest update makes Painter sell his gun

distant gyro Nov 4, 2019, 2:41 PM

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has been a thing since 104 afaik

mellow bay Nov 4, 2019, 2:41 PM

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HDfailure

distant gyro Nov 4, 2019, 2:41 PM

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you can buy paintball gun for 15 gold

zenith hazel Nov 4, 2019, 2:42 PM

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since it’s already a thing... cocks gun

queen sail Nov 4, 2019, 2:42 PM

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:echceasebegone:

pliant cargo Nov 4, 2019, 3:02 PM

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what does "mental damage" mean in this case :peepodetective

worthy raptor Nov 4, 2019, 3:06 PM

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Do you mean give the player headaches

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Because if it was just a different damage type then it would change literally nothing

glacial gate Nov 4, 2019, 3:19 PM

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I mean maybe he means def/dr piercing???

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Since its mental?

runic heath Nov 4, 2019, 3:20 PM

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debuffs

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might wind time anyone? >:p

loud steeple Nov 4, 2019, 4:02 PM

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no

tired haven Nov 4, 2019, 5:08 PM

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Omnidirectional wind

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HyperFailure

clear basin Nov 4, 2019, 5:18 PM

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If you are in the desert you can no longer move

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pain

karmic stone Nov 4, 2019, 5:24 PM

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You can, except it's either accelerated or reversed by a random amount within 1000% and 5000%

last star Nov 4, 2019, 5:26 PM

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the vortex pillar levitation effect

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permanently active during cultist fight

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cause fuck life

distant gyro Nov 4, 2019, 5:27 PM

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what why

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that only forces you to get a gravity normalizer potion

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HDfailure

hallow kraken Nov 4, 2019, 5:27 PM

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Give Cultist bullethell phases

last star Nov 4, 2019, 5:27 PM

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*edit, make it not care about grav normalizer potion

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that my friend

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is mental dmg

hallow kraken Nov 4, 2019, 5:29 PM

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How about making the cultists respawn once every in game week

distant gyro Nov 4, 2019, 5:29 PM

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permanent confused+distorted debuff that you can't be immune to HyperFailure

ashen warren Nov 4, 2019, 5:30 PM

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cultist flips your gravity on and off in 2 second intervals and confuses you on and off in 4 second intervals, also you cant be immune to it and he forces odd mushroom effect

radiant pawn Nov 4, 2019, 5:30 PM

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Why silva stun effect is only for melee class? (even for not true melee, just for all melee weapons). this is unbalanced

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i mean

void kelp Nov 4, 2019, 5:30 PM

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is this maso cultist

hallow kraken Nov 4, 2019, 5:30 PM

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Coral Cannon

ashen warren Nov 4, 2019, 5:30 PM

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ex, more like

radiant pawn Nov 4, 2019, 5:31 PM

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it is understandable for it to be melee only

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why would you want silva stun on other classes than melee

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And it isnt unbalanced

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~~because melee already is unbalanced~~

tired haven Nov 4, 2019, 5:35 PM

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~~every class is unbalanced in their own way, except ranger, this one is plain op~~

hallow kraken Nov 4, 2019, 5:35 PM

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And coral cannon

tired haven Nov 4, 2019, 5:36 PM

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The best thing is Silva stun barely matters at that point of game
Yharon and SCal are immune
Every single other mob dies in fractions of seconds

mellow bay Nov 4, 2019, 7:17 PM

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@quartz hare can you make your suggestion more specific

quartz hare Nov 4, 2019, 7:17 PM

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no

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yes

lost agate Nov 4, 2019, 7:18 PM

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Uh... You know its not only about spawn rates right

quartz hare Nov 4, 2019, 7:19 PM

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yes

lost agate Nov 4, 2019, 7:19 PM

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If you only look at half the stats then damn

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Another case of simple comparison lead to bad conclusions

quartz hare Nov 4, 2019, 7:20 PM

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📎 unknown.png

lost agate Nov 4, 2019, 7:21 PM

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Yeah so what

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Peace is still worse than tranquility by a long shot

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The rate at which the enemies spawns is similar yes, but if the max npcs was 10 then peace makes it so its 7 while tranquility makes it 4 enemies max

distant gyro Nov 4, 2019, 7:26 PM

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Also that number is wrong and the correct one is in #wiki-basic iirc

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HDfailure

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~~Don't want to edit rn because mobile editing is an annoyance~~

lost agate Nov 4, 2019, 7:27 PM

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Zen is still pretty damn strong all things considered

quartz hare Nov 4, 2019, 7:28 PM

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yes

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but its candle is not that good

wooden wedge Nov 4, 2019, 7:28 PM

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it all stacks as well

lost agate Nov 4, 2019, 7:28 PM

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Well zen can be nerfed

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To make it even

quartz hare Nov 4, 2019, 7:28 PM

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sweating

dusty stirrup Nov 4, 2019, 7:45 PM

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@quartz hare Can you like atleast say what you want changed, it's not exactly clear when all you say is "why?"

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also with a valid reason alongside it

karmic stone Nov 4, 2019, 8:01 PM

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why?

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HahaYes

ashen warren Nov 4, 2019, 8:04 PM

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how about more ranger sets for pre-seletron or pre hivemind

distant gyro Nov 4, 2019, 8:05 PM

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~~why particularly ranger~~

terse sundial Nov 4, 2019, 8:05 PM

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ranger sets?

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you mean armor?

hallow kraken Nov 4, 2019, 8:06 PM

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Wulfrum and Victide

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Crimson is omni

ashen warren Nov 4, 2019, 8:07 PM

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o missed vistide my bad

distant gyro Nov 4, 2019, 8:07 PM

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Aerospec for pre skelly

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Necro for post skelly

hallow kraken Nov 4, 2019, 8:08 PM

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And statigel

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There’s enough ranger armors in that tier

ashen warren Nov 4, 2019, 8:08 PM

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cause its a pain to fight one of the 2 boss with molten armor with a bow n arrow

distant gyro Nov 4, 2019, 8:08 PM

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Necro is kinda meme though since you get Statigel one boss after

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HDfailure

ashen warren Nov 4, 2019, 8:08 PM

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and wulfrum is kinda low defense

hallow kraken Nov 4, 2019, 8:08 PM

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I don’t think adding more ranger armors would be necessary

ashen warren Nov 4, 2019, 8:09 PM

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yeah i agree now

tired haven Nov 4, 2019, 8:13 PM

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If you want actual tier inconvenience, you have to clear whole pre-"HM boss" stage in statigel as rogue

hallow kraken Nov 4, 2019, 8:13 PM

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such classism

tired haven Nov 4, 2019, 8:13 PM

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(and even then it only takes cryogen to get daedalus)

hallow kraken Nov 4, 2019, 8:14 PM

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~~although mollusk armor is also a thing~~

tired haven Nov 4, 2019, 8:14 PM

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Mollusk 🐌

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ech

tropic yoke Nov 4, 2019, 8:20 PM

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Thou hast been pingithed

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Ah, angler death message...
Uhh...
I'm not sure how to do that myself.

loud steeple Nov 4, 2019, 8:22 PM

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It's simple as coding goes I think

tropic yoke Nov 4, 2019, 8:22 PM

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Holy hell!
122 stars!
x'D

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People really hate the angler.

loud steeple Nov 4, 2019, 8:22 PM

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Who doesn't hate that kid

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Allways surprised me the angler is still a kid

wooden wedge Nov 4, 2019, 8:23 PM

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it was hell going through 200 quests

tropic yoke Nov 4, 2019, 8:24 PM

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I never did.

wooden wedge Nov 4, 2019, 8:24 PM

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I did all of them

tropic yoke Nov 4, 2019, 8:24 PM

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The angler achievements are the least-obtained by everyone on steam with Terraria.

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Let's see...

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200 days... 24 minutes each day...
~100 hours on a character, not including missed days and the time between starting and getting the angler.

queen sail Nov 4, 2019, 8:26 PM

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Angler achievements are so obnoxious that fargo made a mod that has the sole purpose of setting a character’s number of completed quests to 250

hallow kraken Nov 4, 2019, 8:27 PM

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Of all the quests an NPC could give Relogic made it fishing

open sphinx Nov 4, 2019, 9:02 PM

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i'm gonna make a nerf suggestion lol

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eh

karmic stone Nov 4, 2019, 9:03 PM

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Have you read the pins?

open sphinx Nov 4, 2019, 9:04 PM

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i was gonna suggest a change to the enchanted axe's projectiles disappear after a while

karmic stone Nov 4, 2019, 9:05 PM

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It's already getting nerfed iirc

open sphinx Nov 4, 2019, 9:06 PM

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oh

karmic stone Nov 4, 2019, 9:07 PM

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Just checked, it isn't even supposed to be the way it is sweating

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Ye it's getting fixed

open sphinx Nov 4, 2019, 9:08 PM

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nice

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i thought of suggesting because i was re-killing the perforator hive and i used the stealth strike (somehow)

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and 2 queen bees summoned

radiant meadow Nov 4, 2019, 10:20 PM

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@midnight leaf bosses after scal are already planned.

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and well, you're not allowed to suggest bosses

midnight leaf Nov 4, 2019, 10:20 PM

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oh sorry and yay

sand umbra Nov 4, 2019, 10:20 PM

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the one recent boss suggestion I don't miss and it's for something that's well-known to be already planned
end me

midnight leaf Nov 4, 2019, 10:21 PM

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do you mind me asking what boss is planned

sand umbra Nov 4, 2019, 10:21 PM

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anywho, yeah, there are already post-SCal bosses planned

karmic stone Nov 4, 2019, 10:21 PM

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This made my day, than you terror blade number zero four!

sand umbra Nov 4, 2019, 10:21 PM

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as well as a pre-SCal boss that's post-Yharon

karmic stone Nov 4, 2019, 10:21 PM

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checkpins in Caltalk prolly

sand umbra Nov 4, 2019, 10:21 PM

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ye, cal talk

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it's a bit buried in the pins by now, but you should be able to find the endgame progression plans pretty easy

midnight leaf Nov 4, 2019, 10:22 PM

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I really hope we get to fight the big bad yharim himself

opal barn Nov 4, 2019, 10:22 PM

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You will in 2021

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maybe

karmic stone Nov 4, 2019, 10:22 PM

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Probably

ashen warren Nov 4, 2019, 10:22 PM

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smh thats when the rogue update is planned HDfailure

sand umbra Nov 4, 2019, 10:23 PM

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smh the rogue update is already upon us

karmic stone Nov 4, 2019, 10:23 PM

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Rogue update is now :bruh:

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~~Also no bruh emote~~

sand umbra Nov 4, 2019, 10:23 PM

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bruh

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~~i gacha, don't worry~~

karmic stone Nov 4, 2019, 10:23 PM

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~~very thanc~~

midnight leaf Nov 4, 2019, 10:25 PM

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we really need more endgame magic weapons

frail mantle Nov 4, 2019, 10:26 PM

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why

cobalt rose Nov 4, 2019, 10:27 PM

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we have enough i swear

midnight leaf Nov 4, 2019, 10:27 PM

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all we have is yharims crystal and that other one I forgot what its called

hallow kraken Nov 4, 2019, 10:27 PM

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fabstaff, vehemence, subsuming vortex, vivid clarity, crystal

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One of those?

frail mantle Nov 4, 2019, 10:27 PM

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Staff of Blushie too

hallow kraken Nov 4, 2019, 10:27 PM

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Yeah but SoB is

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But there’s enough of those

midnight leaf Nov 4, 2019, 10:28 PM

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like the amount of magic and ranged weapons should be the same as melle or at least close

frail mantle Nov 4, 2019, 10:28 PM

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also Apoth if you want spell tomes

hallow kraken Nov 4, 2019, 10:28 PM

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Oh hey, dance of light too

karmic stone Nov 4, 2019, 10:28 PM

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Ah yes

frail mantle Nov 4, 2019, 10:28 PM

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yea

karmic stone Nov 4, 2019, 10:28 PM

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The melle class

midnight leaf Nov 4, 2019, 10:29 PM

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you know what im mean

frail mantle Nov 4, 2019, 10:29 PM

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i mean

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is it really necessary

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Melee tends to have more options than other classes at most points of the game

midnight leaf Nov 4, 2019, 10:30 PM

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yeah I went melee on my first complete run

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the later you get into the game the less options there are for all classes

frail mantle Nov 4, 2019, 10:32 PM

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that is indeed true

zenith hazel Nov 5, 2019, 1:47 AM

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shadow dragon is more focused on flight instead of speed iirc

lost agate Nov 5, 2019, 1:47 AM

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^

radiant pawn Nov 5, 2019, 1:48 AM

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^

zenith hazel Nov 5, 2019, 1:48 AM

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hence why it’s good for yharon phase 2

hollow saffron Nov 5, 2019, 2:34 AM

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shadow dragon but faster sounds like a pain if you want to use it for scal

karmic stone Nov 5, 2019, 2:38 AM

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shadow dragon
scal
Hueh

civic pond Nov 5, 2019, 2:50 AM

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squint

radiant pawn Nov 5, 2019, 2:59 AM

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fab pony hours

hallow kraken Nov 5, 2019, 3:22 AM

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Dragon is also a donator item, right?

radiant meadow Nov 5, 2019, 3:23 AM

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yes

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to crysthamyr

civic pond Nov 5, 2019, 3:23 AM

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~~imagine spelling it right~~

tired haven Nov 5, 2019, 5:00 AM

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Did someone just unironically imply using crysthamyr on scal?

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echcrunk

acoustic ferry Nov 5, 2019, 5:01 AM

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whats wrong with it
does it have ridley syndrome?

tired haven Nov 5, 2019, 5:03 AM

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Well, it makes player 4 blocks high hitbox, and also doesn't really give you control like wings or ufo

wary flume Nov 5, 2019, 6:35 AM

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The lazer machine gun is pretty much converted into somethinng better immediately and for the razor pine there are all ready much better choices right after plantera

void river Nov 5, 2019, 7:38 AM

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welp, a component is a component

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you get it so you can make something better

proven tide Nov 5, 2019, 11:46 AM

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Is this a suggestion to add music boxes for vanilla tracks?

ashen warren Nov 5, 2019, 11:47 AM

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Vanilla already has all music boxes. It's a suggestion to add music boxes for modded vanilla tracks if that makes sense

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The one's from Calamity extra music

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There are two but what about the rest?

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Sorry 3

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Just found the meteor one

ruby cobalt Nov 5, 2019, 11:51 AM

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calamity's affiliation with extra music is non-existent

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go pester Turq about it and get told to "waddle off" or something

ashen warren Nov 5, 2019, 11:57 AM

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But that's so stupid. I would understand if there would be no extra Clam. music boxes but there are 3 and rest just doesn't exist. There should be rest of them if they already added some

worthy raptor Nov 5, 2019, 12:02 PM

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They probably need to be sprited, and like drh said, we aren't affiliated with extra calamity music, the dev team here isn't the dev team there

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We aren't the ones who would solve that problem

ashen warren Nov 5, 2019, 12:32 PM

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And is there discord or reddit for Calamity extra music mod?

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And if not who is taking care if it?

quiet abyss Nov 5, 2019, 12:33 PM

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The discord server for extra music is in #other-discords

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Turquoise is the one managing it iirc.

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Don't pester them about it, though, no one likes being rushed.

radiant pawn Nov 5, 2019, 12:41 PM

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A mod already adds all the music boxes

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taxevasion

ashen warren Nov 5, 2019, 12:42 PM

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they went and actually pestered them anyway

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bruhmelt

queen sail Nov 5, 2019, 12:46 PM

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taxevasion

radiant pawn Nov 5, 2019, 2:13 PM

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buff throwing

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Also known as

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buff rogue subclass hellyes hellyes

hallow kraken Nov 5, 2019, 2:18 PM

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Also known as “class to be deleted or something in 1.4”

near crown Nov 5, 2019, 2:20 PM

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it's still semiofficially supported in tmodloader tho

distant gyro Nov 5, 2019, 2:21 PM

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actually it's not just throwing that's left out

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symphonic, radiant, classless, etc also aren't affected by rage and adrenaline

placid moth Nov 5, 2019, 2:22 PM

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rippers with lunic eye

distant gyro Nov 5, 2019, 2:23 PM

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tl;dr : Rage and Adrenaline only affects 5 classes - Melee, Ranged, Magic, Summon, Rogue

placid moth Nov 5, 2019, 2:23 PM

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I wouldn't mind actually.

distant gyro Nov 5, 2019, 2:23 PM

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nothing else.

sand umbra Nov 5, 2019, 2:23 PM

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lunic eye but it's actually a weapon kek

near crown Nov 5, 2019, 2:23 PM

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classless I can understand

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ripper dynamite would be omega dumb

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ripper re guns would be literally gamebreaking

distant gyro Nov 5, 2019, 2:24 PM

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although; the big although -- Snowball and Beenades (impact, not bees) are affected by Rippers

near crown Nov 5, 2019, 2:24 PM

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hellyes

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redcode strikes again

distant gyro Nov 5, 2019, 2:25 PM

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but the reason they are affected is a meme : shared projectile type

loud steeple Nov 5, 2019, 2:25 PM

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I'm pretty sure the dev team is going to make the adrenaline and rage work with all damege types

distant gyro Nov 5, 2019, 2:25 PM

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redcode striking both snowballs and beenades to be a ranged weapon and not a throwing weapon

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CompleteFailure

sand umbra Nov 5, 2019, 2:26 PM

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brb making both explicitly thrown

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OmegaFailure

terse sundial Nov 5, 2019, 3:35 PM

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@wet vapor Suggestions merging or making rogue and throwing more compatible are off limits, please read the suggestion don'ts doc in the pins of this channel first before suggesting

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Rogue and Throwing are already somewhat compatible, for now, it won't be changed further

marble token Nov 5, 2019, 4:09 PM

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adrenaline boosts for all damage would be dope though, imagine an adr. boosted boulder or flame trap

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people aren't ready for the boulder meta vs. destroyer

faint needle Nov 5, 2019, 6:20 PM

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Boulder is a weapon now

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?

void kelp Nov 5, 2019, 6:22 PM

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rippers being changed to all damage I think would be a nice idea

faint needle Nov 5, 2019, 6:50 PM

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Wdym?

void kelp Nov 5, 2019, 6:52 PM

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rippers currently only affect melee, ranged, magic, summoning, and rogue damage

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iirc it should be a small change since tmodloader now has a global damage increase setting

faint needle Nov 5, 2019, 6:57 PM

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Ah

lost agate Nov 5, 2019, 7:19 PM

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Doesnt solar eruption slap deus?

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Also idk how really strong nebulash is

night cradle Nov 5, 2019, 7:20 PM

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Wasn't it that the Nebulash falls off on a high defense targets or something
From what I have heard

terse sundial Nov 5, 2019, 7:20 PM

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@shut tide If you could add some dps tests and boss kill times with each of the weapons in Revengeance Mode without Adren or Rage in your post that would help make your point

shut tide Nov 5, 2019, 7:21 PM

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good point

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guess I should do that

hallow kraken Nov 5, 2019, 7:38 PM

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Nebulash deals more DPS, I suggested that a while ago

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Also I think nebulash should be nerfed instead

shut tide Nov 5, 2019, 7:51 PM

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This suggestion I made is a re-suggestion

hallow kraken Nov 5, 2019, 7:52 PM

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In fact back when hide was pre-golem adrenaline+lash instantly killed any boss up to ML

shut tide Nov 5, 2019, 7:52 PM

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I suggested this like 4 months ago

hallow kraken Nov 5, 2019, 7:52 PM

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But anyways, I’m surprised it still hasn’t been nerfed yet

shut tide Nov 5, 2019, 7:52 PM

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exactly

terse sundial Nov 5, 2019, 8:00 PM

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I still think some actual dps tests in there would help more

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once there are some on there, i'll remove the dev_unreviewed

smoky wagon Nov 5, 2019, 8:22 PM

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Nebulash does more vs unarmored targets

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Solar eruption does more vs enemies with more defense

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Like deus

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Nebulash is fine, solar eruption is fine but a small buff wouldnt hurt

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just for it to be more obviously an upgrade

tired haven Nov 5, 2019, 8:26 PM

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Did you try using fire boozes? (fireball, cinnamon roll) That may be the edge that would make it decent weapon

smoky wagon Nov 5, 2019, 8:36 PM

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Nope

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That would make it better

tired haven Nov 5, 2019, 8:40 PM

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Well, 1.25x dmg sure will

faint needle Nov 5, 2019, 9:22 PM

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@terse sundial suggestion

ashen warren Nov 5, 2019, 9:22 PM

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jen, are you gonna edit that, or...?

karmic stone Nov 5, 2019, 9:22 PM

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HahaYes

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ah

ruby cobalt Nov 5, 2019, 9:22 PM

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we're on it, chief

terse sundial Nov 5, 2019, 9:22 PM

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yeah, I'm letting terry handle this

ashen warren Nov 5, 2019, 9:22 PM

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@bright vapor

karmic stone Nov 5, 2019, 9:22 PM

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he's typing in suggs again taxevasion

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@bright vapor Already planned

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HDfailure

ashen warren Nov 5, 2019, 9:23 PM

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this is a ☑ aint it ech

terse sundial Nov 5, 2019, 9:23 PM

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Ye

karmic stone Nov 5, 2019, 9:23 PM

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Good work Terri!

faint needle Nov 5, 2019, 9:23 PM

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Jen

terse sundial Nov 5, 2019, 9:23 PM

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But also like, I wouldn't even want this suggestion to exist

ashen warren Nov 5, 2019, 9:23 PM

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@bright vapor PLEASE just discuss your suggestions in here first

faint needle Nov 5, 2019, 9:23 PM

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Have you ever learned how to suggest

ashen warren Nov 5, 2019, 9:23 PM

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dont discuss in #suggestions-voting

karmic stone Nov 5, 2019, 9:24 PM

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They just doubled their sugg HahaYes

ruby cobalt Nov 5, 2019, 9:24 PM

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to the garbage pile it goes

terse sundial Nov 5, 2019, 9:24 PM

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I don't even know what they are asking at this point

ruby cobalt Nov 5, 2019, 9:24 PM

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spareable scal

terse sundial Nov 5, 2019, 9:24 PM

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ah

karmic stone Nov 5, 2019, 9:24 PM

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Cal npc basically

faint needle Nov 5, 2019, 9:24 PM

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For calamita to be a quest npc

ruby cobalt Nov 5, 2019, 9:24 PM

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do the good ole snus under table

ashen warren Nov 5, 2019, 9:24 PM

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~~so, add the reactions back or delete the sugma?~~

ruby cobalt Nov 5, 2019, 9:25 PM

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don't do shit until he responds

terse sundial Nov 5, 2019, 9:25 PM

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^

ruby cobalt Nov 5, 2019, 9:25 PM

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if he doesn't within 5 minutes delete it

queen sail Nov 5, 2019, 9:25 PM

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@bright vapor it’s planned in the future so commit begone

terse sundial Nov 5, 2019, 9:25 PM

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Give it 5 yeah

queen sail Nov 5, 2019, 9:25 PM

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:echceasebegone:

ashen warren Nov 5, 2019, 9:25 PM

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well, pinged him two mins ago so clock is set ech

karmic stone Nov 5, 2019, 9:25 PM

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He had to get in here to see the pings and went back to sugg to answer there

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let that sink in

ruby cobalt Nov 5, 2019, 9:25 PM

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and it's gone

ashen warren Nov 5, 2019, 9:25 PM

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cool and good

ruby cobalt Nov 5, 2019, 9:25 PM

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~~quick, check audit log to see who we hang~~

terse sundial Nov 5, 2019, 9:25 PM

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Oh okay

bitter topaz Nov 5, 2019, 9:26 PM

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nobody's being hung today

terse sundial Nov 5, 2019, 9:26 PM

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I deleted the "oh okay" message

ruby cobalt Nov 5, 2019, 9:26 PM

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😔

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we hang nobody then

bright vapor Nov 5, 2019, 9:26 PM

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Sorry i just joined the server

karmic stone Nov 5, 2019, 9:26 PM

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I'd suggest you read the rules and the pins on every channel

faint needle Nov 5, 2019, 9:26 PM

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Not really an excuse but ok

terse sundial Nov 5, 2019, 9:26 PM

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^

bright vapor Nov 5, 2019, 9:26 PM

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Ok

wooden wedge Nov 5, 2019, 9:26 PM

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I just saw that as it got deleted wth

ashen warren Nov 5, 2019, 9:26 PM

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discuss your suggestion here before posting it to #suggestions-voting echhh

faint needle Nov 5, 2019, 9:26 PM

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Do that first, yez

tropic yoke Nov 5, 2019, 11:16 PM

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The Angler Death message is now my most liked suggestion x'D

ashen warren Nov 5, 2019, 11:32 PM

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Suprised you didn't make a sprite for it

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HDfailure

tropic yoke Nov 5, 2019, 11:43 PM

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Want me to make gibs?

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I'll f***ing do it.
Don't think I won't, cuz I will.

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Do not test me plebian.

civic pond Nov 5, 2019, 11:44 PM

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thonken

ashen warren Nov 5, 2019, 11:45 PM

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okay

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boomer

zenith hazel Nov 5, 2019, 11:54 PM

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take this channel seriously, please

elfin maple Nov 6, 2019, 12:09 AM

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nice my ranger suggestion has 65 stars

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it probably won't get to 90 but that's the best this suggestion has done so far

radiant meadow Nov 6, 2019, 12:44 AM

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@ashen warren that is for Calamity Mod Extra Music Mod which is separate from Calamity. The invite to the extra music discord is in #other-discords. This is not the place to suggest that, so I am going to delete your suggestion.

hollow saffron Nov 6, 2019, 12:53 AM

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rip

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honestly im thinking to suggest lore items for minibosses(at a lower drop rate than lores for bosses)

radiant meadow Nov 6, 2019, 12:56 AM

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I don't see a real point to that

queen delta Nov 6, 2019, 12:56 AM

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Yeah, there's no need to shove lore all over the game

zenith hazel Nov 6, 2019, 12:56 AM

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minibosses are just... there

void kelp Nov 6, 2019, 1:04 AM

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we’ll eventually get some fan lore for them but I don’t think we should have lore items

swift bison Nov 6, 2019, 1:15 AM

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found this in #suggestions-voting, missing it's 🏁 emoji HDfailure

📎 unknown.png

queen delta Nov 6, 2019, 1:16 AM

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Theres a lot of suggestions that are missing the flag

fervent zealot Nov 6, 2019, 1:17 AM

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partiularily, ancient ones ech

radiant meadow Nov 6, 2019, 1:18 AM

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ancient stuff doesn't get a flag

tropic yoke Nov 6, 2019, 1:27 AM

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Sad

📎 Ice_Clasper_28minion29.png

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No flag for ancient boi

void kelp Nov 6, 2019, 1:27 AM

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I believe the only thing stopping there from being a banner is a lack of sprite

tropic yoke Nov 6, 2019, 1:28 AM

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For what?

radiant meadow Nov 6, 2019, 1:28 AM

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that's exactly the reason why Twinkler and Fearless Goldfish Warrior don't have banners

wary flume Nov 6, 2019, 6:31 AM

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Ghosts generally have a blue texture a red/pink polterghast won't look right

lost agate Nov 6, 2019, 6:31 AM

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The uh, pbg and the like effects are just filters

foggy grove Nov 6, 2019, 6:32 AM

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I know, but it would still be nice to be able to apply the filters outside of the fights themselves

wary flume Nov 6, 2019, 6:32 AM

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I reckon it'd be nice but this seems like more of a thing for another mod to add

hollow idol Nov 6, 2019, 6:33 AM

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ye just recolored all 3 polters + their animations with phanto palette, it isnt as aesthetically pleasing as current polter, and its being resprited at the moment anyways

proven tide Nov 6, 2019, 6:35 AM

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@DanielTheRobot#3605 I believe that's why it has the red in the core

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It's no secret that ectoplasm is far more commonplace and accessible in the dungeon than phanto so it makes sense that the majority of the body would be some form of accrued ectoplasm outer layer

worthy fiber Nov 6, 2019, 9:05 AM

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Twinkler probably won't get a banner because Fireflies don't have banners

warm tinsel Nov 6, 2019, 10:37 AM

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I love me some black humor, poking fun at Yharim with Ignalius' mask would be great

karmic stone Nov 6, 2019, 10:39 AM

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"Yharmom's scorched arm"

tired haven Nov 6, 2019, 11:13 AM

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echthink genuine evil

warm tinsel Nov 6, 2019, 11:21 AM

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Ikr

quick ice Nov 6, 2019, 11:57 AM

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hey, could I post a suggestion in #suggestions-voting that relates to the new updates content and may be considered a spoiler?

hoary hinge Nov 6, 2019, 11:58 AM

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I don't see why you can't just use spoiler tags regarding the suggestion

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so sure

quick ice Nov 6, 2019, 12:51 PM

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hey pirtstmem, there are currently 8 Pre-Hardmode summon weapons so I'm a bit confused as to why you're asking for more

dense oriole Nov 6, 2019, 12:52 PM

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slime staff isnt good, ya know..

quick ice Nov 6, 2019, 12:52 PM

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if anything we need more post-Moonlord Summon weapons since there are only 8 of those, despite it having as many bosses as Pre-Hardmode (Without Alternate Bosses)

dense oriole Nov 6, 2019, 12:52 PM

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actually summoner weap need "pre-Boss"weap..

sand umbra Nov 6, 2019, 12:52 PM

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okay but can the Slime Staff kick the shit out of literally every boss post-ML up until Signus

opal barn Nov 6, 2019, 12:52 PM

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Slime staff does well on DS and KS

sand umbra Nov 6, 2019, 12:52 PM

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I didn't think so

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CompleteFailure

opal barn Nov 6, 2019, 12:52 PM

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And you get another summon from DS

sand umbra Nov 6, 2019, 12:53 PM

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that said, Calamity does add a couple useful summons that are obtainable very early on

zenith hazel Nov 6, 2019, 12:53 PM

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sun spirit staff also exists around that point

dense oriole Nov 6, 2019, 12:53 PM

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when we play summoner only run, actually we should kill Perf/HM with seabound sunspirit and slime only..

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after HMor perf has no problem.

zenith hazel Nov 6, 2019, 12:53 PM

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and the problem here is...?

sand umbra Nov 6, 2019, 12:53 PM

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kill Perf/HM with seabound sunspirit and slime only..

opal barn Nov 6, 2019, 12:54 PM

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You can get impstaff though?

sand umbra Nov 6, 2019, 12:54 PM

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also

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who the hell doesn't fight QB before Perfs/HM as a summoner

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Ech

zenith hazel Nov 6, 2019, 12:54 PM

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if seabound staff can do fine with perfs and hive then why do we need another summoner weapon?

dense oriole Nov 6, 2019, 12:54 PM

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queen bee fight with slimestaff galaxy brain

zenith hazel Nov 6, 2019, 12:54 PM

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so what’s the argument here?

sand umbra Nov 6, 2019, 12:54 PM

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no, QB fight with Imp Staff because that's where you start getting not-trash summons TaxEvasion

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although QB with Slime Staff is probably doable

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imps are just 🅱etter

dense oriole Nov 6, 2019, 12:55 PM

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so what i want to say is

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rogue got more some options for pre-HM,

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warrier already have many option,

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ranger and socerer to

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summoner need to have more options

opal barn Nov 6, 2019, 12:56 PM

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And summoner too taxevasion

sand umbra Nov 6, 2019, 12:56 PM

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I think the issue here is just Summoner overall seeming to possess fewer options than other classes

dense oriole Nov 6, 2019, 12:56 PM

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^

sand umbra Nov 6, 2019, 12:56 PM

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but even then, it's not that easy to fix it

dense oriole Nov 6, 2019, 12:56 PM

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what i want to say

quick ice Nov 6, 2019, 12:56 PM

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with Summoner it's harder to make unique summons

sand umbra Nov 6, 2019, 12:56 PM

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p. sure summons are ass to program

quick ice Nov 6, 2019, 12:56 PM

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they are

zenith hazel Nov 6, 2019, 12:56 PM

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fungal clump, luxor’s, 3 slime summons, imps, hornets, both evil summons, sun spirit, herrings,... do we really need more?

dense oriole Nov 6, 2019, 12:56 PM

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it should be fine with simple AI summon

lost agate Nov 6, 2019, 12:56 PM

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We would have like 20 summons in pre hm if we could

dense oriole Nov 6, 2019, 12:57 PM

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as I said, pre-boss summon right.

quick ice Nov 6, 2019, 12:57 PM

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yeah but why would they make boring weapons

lost agate Nov 6, 2019, 12:57 PM

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Sadly each one of them can take hours and hours to make

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Lots of trial and error

sand umbra Nov 6, 2019, 12:57 PM

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part of me wants to fantastically doubt you but the other part of me is like. at this point I wouldn't be surprised given what I've heard about summons Ech

dense oriole Nov 6, 2019, 12:57 PM

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lead tomahawk and iron francisca's are boring too

quick ice Nov 6, 2019, 12:57 PM

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there are 2 pre-boss summons, Sun Spirit Staff and Slime Staff which both fair well enough against scourge to get you a Seabound Staff

lost agate Nov 6, 2019, 12:57 PM

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I mean

zenith hazel Nov 6, 2019, 12:58 PM

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because they’re early-game weapons meant to be used until you get crystalline

dense oriole Nov 6, 2019, 12:58 PM

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but they are ore rogue weap, which mean pre boss, so they shouldnt be interesting

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^

lost agate Nov 6, 2019, 12:58 PM

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A normal projectile has like 70 lines tops of code

dense oriole Nov 6, 2019, 12:58 PM

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i think summoner need like to that

zenith hazel Nov 6, 2019, 12:58 PM

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do we really need a weapon that is made from literal iron/lead bars to be cooler than something like crystalline?

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of course not

dense oriole Nov 6, 2019, 12:58 PM

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simple, earlygame summon

sand umbra Nov 6, 2019, 12:58 PM

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~~I mean I think throwing an infinitely-piercing axe is pretty interesting~~

lost agate Nov 6, 2019, 12:58 PM

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A summon projectile can go well over 300 lines

sand umbra Nov 6, 2019, 12:58 PM

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~~but that's just me~~

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300 lines

I am intimidated by this number

dense oriole Nov 6, 2019, 12:59 PM

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As I say, i think boring summon weaps is ok.. if they are in balance. right

lost agate Nov 6, 2019, 12:59 PM

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Think of it this way

dense oriole Nov 6, 2019, 12:59 PM

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like teardrop cleaver or other..

zenith hazel Nov 6, 2019, 12:59 PM

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making unique summons is another can of worms

dense oriole Nov 6, 2019, 1:00 PM

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~~calamity really likes worms~~

sand umbra Nov 6, 2019, 1:00 PM

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...aren't worm summons horrible to program

zenith hazel Nov 6, 2019, 1:00 PM

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honestly, with the way things are rn, pre-hm summoner is fine for the most part

sand umbra Nov 6, 2019, 1:00 PM

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just a random thought

zenith hazel Nov 6, 2019, 1:00 PM

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it has its downs but it’s still decently good

opal barn Nov 6, 2019, 1:00 PM

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Mechworm bugs out to this day

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so yes

sand umbra Nov 6, 2019, 1:00 PM

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mechworm

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TaxEvasion

lost agate Nov 6, 2019, 1:00 PM

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Projectile that has homing, infinite piercing, said homing can be done in many ways which can be homing for a moment (aka dashing) or stuff like that
Ok you got that? Good because we are like halfway through

sand umbra Nov 6, 2019, 1:01 PM

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pain

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what is this power

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I am spooked

dense oriole Nov 6, 2019, 1:01 PM

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what i want to say is..

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re-using AI is ok. just need more option for summoner run..

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or any summoner main player..

acoustic ferry Nov 6, 2019, 1:02 PM

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quality > quantity

dense oriole Nov 6, 2019, 1:02 PM

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early game weapon didnt need too many quality

queen sail Nov 6, 2019, 1:02 PM

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You get 2-3 options for early game summoner, right

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Slime Staff and Sun Spirit Staff, then Seabound Staff if you kill preboss miniboss worm

dense oriole Nov 6, 2019, 1:03 PM

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DS is boss.

queen sail Nov 6, 2019, 1:03 PM

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Is he though

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:echthink:

lost agate Nov 6, 2019, 1:03 PM

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Said projectiles needs to resummon itself if you get too far away, and it has to home in on you when no enemy is nearby, but said homing needs to be in a way that makes it look like its just following you like a pet, you see how it randomly moves you when you stand still? Yeah you code that too
We done? Yeah, but im talking about flying summons, grounded summons have more to it

dense oriole Nov 6, 2019, 1:04 PM

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he has trasure bag. so he is boss

left crest Nov 6, 2019, 1:04 PM

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we dont need another preboss summon, as someone who did a summoner run, and it would be a lot of work for the devs

lost agate Nov 6, 2019, 1:04 PM

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Anyway my point is

dense oriole Nov 6, 2019, 1:04 PM

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so. no mor early game summon?

signal prairie Nov 6, 2019, 1:04 PM

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I think they get the idea, summoner is hell

lost agate Nov 6, 2019, 1:04 PM

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Wr can make summons its just gonna take a while

dense oriole Nov 6, 2019, 1:05 PM

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so devs is makin new summoner weap..some times,,, right?

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some day..

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i mean

lost agate Nov 6, 2019, 1:05 PM

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We have some planned already actually

dense oriole Nov 6, 2019, 1:05 PM

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early hm?

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i mean early game?

lost agate Nov 6, 2019, 1:05 PM

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Yeah

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And we can make more as we go

dense oriole Nov 6, 2019, 1:06 PM

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good idea. i wish tat will be good summoner weap..

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thanks for answering shuckles!

lost agate Nov 6, 2019, 1:06 PM

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Youre welcome

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We made the black hawk summon recently, so we arent abandoning summons just yet

worn salmon Nov 6, 2019, 1:24 PM

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worm summon

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like thebones used for bait

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HDfailure

earnest raptor Nov 6, 2019, 1:25 PM

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Hi everyone.

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I have made new suggestion. ech

frail mantle Nov 6, 2019, 1:25 PM

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yes we can see that

earnest raptor Nov 6, 2019, 1:26 PM

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I wonder, I am not cheating or whatever?

frail mantle Nov 6, 2019, 1:26 PM

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que

worn salmon Nov 6, 2019, 1:27 PM

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i like it

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it makes them more fun

karmic stone Nov 6, 2019, 1:37 PM

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heals hero
Champion*

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But seriously, this is way too specific, all Rogue weps are already getting neato stealth strikes, though i did like the non-stealth strikes effects, and overall it was nice to read

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Cobalt Kunai functioning-ish as a rogue Cursed Dart would be HahaYes

opal barn Nov 6, 2019, 1:39 PM

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so like bootleg spear of paleolith

earnest raptor Nov 6, 2019, 1:40 PM

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Actually bootleg consumable SoP is Crystal Piercer in my suggestion HDfailure

lost agate Nov 6, 2019, 1:41 PM

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Isnt that suggestion kind of specific tho

queen delta Nov 6, 2019, 1:50 PM

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Its just offering new changes to already existing weapons so i think it follows the rules

tired haven Nov 6, 2019, 1:52 PM

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If we go by definition of specific item suggestions, it didn't state you can't modify existing item in whatever manner

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Though, obviously, abusing that will be as obvious and inconvenient as actual SIS

lost agate Nov 6, 2019, 1:54 PM

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I suppose so

earnest raptor Nov 6, 2019, 2:11 PM

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So...

potent veldt Nov 6, 2019, 5:43 PM

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I really like the idea of the hardmode-ore rogues actually have interesting abilities, but I don't really think that'd help all that much, since they're flawed in concept

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By the time I've gotten enough Titanium/Adamantite to get Forge/Armor/etc. and to spend it on consumable weapons, I'd have probably already beaten Cryogen and got a better rogue weapon

mossy shale Nov 6, 2019, 5:54 PM

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Probably gonna get blue checked but I dont care

lost agate Nov 6, 2019, 5:55 PM

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Idek how that thing works

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If i knew i would have done it already

sand umbra Nov 6, 2019, 5:56 PM

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it'd be a lovely thing either way

ashen warren Nov 6, 2019, 5:57 PM

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have worked with modconfigs

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terrifying spaghetti

lost agate Nov 6, 2019, 5:57 PM

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Oh dear

mossy shale Nov 6, 2019, 5:57 PM

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It's probably better than the weird json hack

lost agate Nov 6, 2019, 5:57 PM

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Thats the least i wanted to hear

sand umbra Nov 6, 2019, 5:57 PM

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would also allow for some other things to be moved there that until now have been vis-toggles (Asgard's Valor/Elysian Aegis/Asgardian Aegis dashes, Ethereal Talisman mana flower effect, etc.)

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although if it's spaghetti then I will

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gladly put up with Aegis ruining my look.

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hahayes

ashen warren Nov 6, 2019, 5:58 PM

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just put a tiny shield in vanity

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cobalt, or that one OOA buckler

lost agate Nov 6, 2019, 5:58 PM

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Pretty sure for the json you only load it up on code and use the variables from there

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Afaik

mossy shale Nov 6, 2019, 5:58 PM

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It's still in-game and also better for multiplayer sync

lost agate Nov 6, 2019, 5:59 PM

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Yeah but if its spaghetti its gonna be an experience

sand umbra Nov 6, 2019, 5:59 PM

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An Experience™

mossy shale Nov 6, 2019, 5:59 PM

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I just hope it happens eventually

queen delta Nov 6, 2019, 6:08 PM

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Just have homo weirdus do it for you guys

ashen warren Nov 6, 2019, 6:09 PM

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tbh ech

lost agate Nov 6, 2019, 6:09 PM

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Homo who

queen delta Nov 6, 2019, 6:09 PM

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Config guy who made most of fargo souls toggles

lost agate Nov 6, 2019, 6:09 PM

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Ah i see

void kelp Nov 6, 2019, 6:30 PM

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you mean toggle man™

ashen warren Nov 6, 2019, 6:52 PM

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yes

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THE toggle man

radiant meadow Nov 6, 2019, 7:21 PM

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god, glowmasks are ass to code and make look correct ech

fervent zealot Nov 6, 2019, 7:22 PM

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but they look cooool

void kelp Nov 6, 2019, 7:55 PM

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Does this count as a SIS?

wooden wedge Nov 6, 2019, 7:55 PM

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sis?

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and doesn't this already exist in the form of defiled rune?

marble mirage Nov 6, 2019, 7:58 PM

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pretty much

queen sail Nov 6, 2019, 7:59 PM

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@meager wharf

📎 image0.png

marble mirage Nov 6, 2019, 8:02 PM

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anyways, i got a suggestion that i should probably post here to get feedback on if it's even a good idea
it being that Supreme Calamitas should do some sort of attack while transitioning to phase 2 at 40% health, maybe spewing out a bunch of brimstone hellblasts in set directions
i kinda wanna suggest it because that point of the fight is kind of a pace killer, and it would make that part at least a little bit more interesting rather than an obligatory phase 2 transition

twin inlet Nov 6, 2019, 8:05 PM

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sort of like eye of cthulu spits out smol eyes when he changes phases?

marble mirage Nov 6, 2019, 8:05 PM

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pretty much like that

twin inlet Nov 6, 2019, 8:06 PM

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yeah the phase change is not really that impressive as she just goes back to doing what he was doing pre change

marble mirage Nov 6, 2019, 8:06 PM

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since it's sorta boring for her to just spiiiiin and boom, phase two

void kelp Nov 6, 2019, 8:06 PM

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SIS = specific item suggestion

wooden wedge Nov 6, 2019, 8:07 PM

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ah, I see

marble mirage Nov 6, 2019, 8:11 PM

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alright, so i guess i'm gonna go ahead and do the suggestion thing, see what happens after i post it

runic heath Nov 6, 2019, 8:15 PM

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Just craft a potion out of defiled runes

marble mirage Nov 6, 2019, 8:16 PM

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mmmmm, tasty rune juice

meager wharf Nov 6, 2019, 8:17 PM

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@queen sail yes, but potion should increase chances not as much as DR and no negative things (wings dont work and enemies can crit you), and also it is not only rev+

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I think it will be useful to farming something like turtle shells

runic heath Nov 6, 2019, 8:18 PM

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Defiled rune doesn’t insta kill you

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That’s armageddon

meager wharf Nov 6, 2019, 8:18 PM

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Ops

marble mirage Nov 6, 2019, 8:19 PM

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defiled rune is the wing removal and sometimes enemies critting you

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or at least i believe that's what it do

quartz hare Nov 6, 2019, 8:19 PM

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hell yes, necro, good suggestion

marble mirage Nov 6, 2019, 8:20 PM

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thanks

quartz hare Nov 6, 2019, 8:22 PM

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also scal is pretty weak for final boss (same difficty as yharon, dog, she really needs a big buff)

runic heath Nov 6, 2019, 8:23 PM

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Tbf she’s going to be moved from super boss status soonish

quartz hare Nov 6, 2019, 8:23 PM

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same difficty if u are fully prepared for the fight*

runic heath Nov 6, 2019, 8:23 PM

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Soon ™

meager wharf Nov 6, 2019, 8:24 PM

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Others: scal is so easy, need buffs Me: beat bumblebirb in normal mode on third attempt

quartz hare Nov 6, 2019, 8:24 PM

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wait, who said that?

plucky matrix Nov 6, 2019, 8:32 PM

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ehhh, see I'd agree with that if I didn't like having a few seconds to reset my grip or scratch my hands or something like that

lost agate Nov 6, 2019, 8:34 PM

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Imagine if a phase transition stopped being a phase transition and turned into just another attack

marble mirage Nov 6, 2019, 8:34 PM

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no stopping

lost agate Nov 6, 2019, 8:35 PM

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Bleh

void kelp Nov 6, 2019, 8:37 PM

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I honestly like it when there’s some space inbetween since having a moment for a hydration break or even just to catch your breath would be good

wooden wedge Nov 6, 2019, 8:37 PM

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~~autopause~~

runic heath Nov 6, 2019, 8:38 PM

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Or just clicking out of the window

void kelp Nov 6, 2019, 8:39 PM

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that’s only valid with autopause, roofon

plucky matrix Nov 6, 2019, 8:39 PM

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clicking out of the window leaves you with scuffed controls when re-entering and autopause is just... why ~~also not allowed in nohits which is the only way I can find myself enjoying scal but that's just me and not the majority~~

wooden wedge Nov 6, 2019, 8:39 PM

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I use autopause all the time fro water breaks

lost agate Nov 6, 2019, 8:40 PM

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Also like, ok she spawns bullets when spinning

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Alright now good luck dodging the dart shotgun inmediately after

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I dont see anyone complaining about yharon phase transitions so like

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And if you wanna use super boss as an excuse, well let me remind you that superboss != Madness incarnate

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Otherwise scal would use all of her attacks at once

night cradle Nov 6, 2019, 8:50 PM

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Superboss or not it still needs to be a fair fight, so yeah

lost agate Nov 6, 2019, 8:51 PM

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^

tired haven Nov 6, 2019, 8:56 PM

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Tbh
The dart shotgun and the following pattern may be slowed down just enough to fit a proper attack in, so when you're finished with a spin she just starts her regular attacks

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It shouldn't be overwhelming but still racks up the pace a bit

lost agate Nov 6, 2019, 8:56 PM

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Just to remove the only break you get in the fight?

tired haven Nov 6, 2019, 8:57 PM

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Perhaps

lost agate Nov 6, 2019, 8:57 PM

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I dont really like the idea

tired haven Nov 6, 2019, 8:57 PM

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I mean, brothers are a bigger break if smth

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Just a bit more tricky

lost agate Nov 6, 2019, 8:57 PM

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But you still gotta pay attention or youre gonna get a projectile to the face

tired haven Nov 6, 2019, 8:59 PM

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I do like that idea. It is special interaction (by far not all bosses have an attack when they transform phases) and removes the weird gap when you just sit here for like 3 seconds straight, in overall tense fight.
It is not ideal and it can be disastrous if done wrong, like overlapping with said dart shotgun, but there is an idea to polish out

lost agate Nov 6, 2019, 9:00 PM

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The shotgun was just an example

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There could be several other attacks that could corner you

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Including the ones before the transition

tired haven Nov 6, 2019, 9:01 PM

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Gently disagrees in bh5

lost agate Nov 6, 2019, 9:01 PM

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What

tired haven Nov 6, 2019, 9:02 PM

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There are tons of overlapping attacks left yet there is also a whole bullethell upon you

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And it still feels fine for the most part

lost agate Nov 6, 2019, 9:02 PM

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Well because thats the bh with the least amount of each projectile type

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And the bh5 is often the most insane

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Which can have horrendous results if you end up in a bad pattern

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Says the guy who wouldnt stop dying on bh5

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Aka me

tired haven Nov 6, 2019, 9:04 PM

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tbh, who would stop dying at bh5 taxevasion

lost agate Nov 6, 2019, 9:04 PM

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And you wanna make 40% that same situation?

plucky matrix Nov 6, 2019, 9:04 PM

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also, hope I didn't understand the convo wrong:
just because one of the attacks later in the fight might be able to corner you/is unfair doesn't justify an attack earlier in the fight to be the same imo

tired haven Nov 6, 2019, 9:05 PM

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Not really. Again, there can be a smaller delay so when you are done with a spin, only then scal kicks in with regular pattern

lost agate Nov 6, 2019, 9:05 PM

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Also yes

tired haven Nov 6, 2019, 9:05 PM

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I understand that all attacks don't have to be top difficulty

teal ibex Nov 6, 2019, 9:05 PM

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imo the real brunt of scal's difficulty is the fact that attacks overlap

lost agate Nov 6, 2019, 9:05 PM

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Using one of the last attack as an excuse is bleh

teal ibex Nov 6, 2019, 9:05 PM

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so while i agree that a delay would be ideal, crab, i also think it conflicts with like

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the entire fight

lost agate Nov 6, 2019, 9:06 PM

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If you start the transition with scal close to you, youre dead

marble mirage Nov 6, 2019, 9:06 PM

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what have i done

ashen warren Nov 6, 2019, 9:06 PM

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bullet phase 5 has moons and skulls, bullet phase 1 has over 1000 damage, therefore all bullet phases should have moons and skulls and do over 1000 damage

teal ibex Nov 6, 2019, 9:06 PM

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you have made a suggestion

tired haven Nov 6, 2019, 9:06 PM

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Nothing stops it from using the same principle and then nerfing it a bit according to the fight progression

teal ibex Nov 6, 2019, 9:07 PM

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nothing stops it, no, but a lot of people disagree with it

lost agate Nov 6, 2019, 9:07 PM

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Just because you dont wanna wait 3 second?

tired haven Nov 6, 2019, 9:07 PM

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Of course they do disagree

Also please, don't personalize that

lost agate Nov 6, 2019, 9:07 PM

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Also guess what, scal would stop after the transition to make it fair

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Which takes us back to the begining

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Scal does nothing for a moment

teal ibex Nov 6, 2019, 9:08 PM

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wait would she?

tired haven Nov 6, 2019, 9:08 PM

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I wouldn't care less if there is 3 seconds gap or not. I just want the fight to look and feel cooler if possible

marble mirage Nov 6, 2019, 9:09 PM

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yeah true
i probably should have mentioned it in the initial suggestion, but i feel like if the attack were to happen, it should be nowhere near as hard as her bullet hells
i was kinda just thinking "oh hey a couple of projectiles come out of her while spinning, nothing that major but still looks pretty cool"

tired haven Nov 6, 2019, 9:09 PM

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And it may be in not doing that particular suggestion real, but I'd like to hear objective "why" first, and I won't insist once I hear that, but will endorse the discussion beforehand

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And yes, it could be as simple as another shotgun but with 360 spread (basically gigablast ig)

marble mirage Nov 6, 2019, 9:11 PM

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yeah

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just something simple to signify that she's not messing around anymore

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but if it's truly a bad suggestion, then i could remove it

teal ibex Nov 6, 2019, 9:12 PM

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it's not a bad suggestion, it's an scal suggestion

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it will be contentious no matter what you say

marble mirage Nov 6, 2019, 9:13 PM

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true

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gotta be careful with scal balancing

teal ibex Nov 6, 2019, 9:13 PM

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personally, i find the lack of activity during the transition to be an important moment of contrast. when you get to that moment for the first time and see her stop attacking, it stands out

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sure, having a bunch of bullets the whole way through is pretty anime, but you lose out on that stand-out moment in the fight

marble mirage Nov 6, 2019, 9:15 PM

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that's true, but then again, scal is just an anime character in terraria

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i guess either way can go
it's the devs' decision to put it in or not

lost agate Nov 6, 2019, 9:16 PM

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If you ask me, a moment of silence after a storm is more impactful than a storm all the way

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If you get what im saying

marble mirage Nov 6, 2019, 9:17 PM

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yeah

lost agate Nov 6, 2019, 9:18 PM

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So having the attack continue in the moment where you should be thinking "oh shit something is gonna happen", ruins the whole feeling

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See ml for example

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You dont build tension by sending more threats

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The entire world starts going silent

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Its such a change of mood and it really builds tension

tired haven Nov 6, 2019, 9:21 PM

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Mmm, that's true for veteran fighters,but there is a genuine doubt newcomers would expect a break at exactly 40% when something is gonna happen since scal started spinning

But I guess the whole "eye of the storm" thing is fair

lost agate Nov 6, 2019, 9:21 PM

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Now how would the ml buildup feel if you had to fight pillar enemies in the process

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And no they dont expect a break at 40%

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You also dont expect total silence after pillars

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Thats part of the shock

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The unexpected

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Tho, a little more effects in the phase transition would be neat

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Like dust and what not

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But i dont really support harmful projectiles

marble mirage Nov 6, 2019, 9:24 PM

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yeah that would be better

tired haven Nov 6, 2019, 9:25 PM

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Ye, guess a bit of fancies would fit the theme more than an actual attack

marble mirage Nov 6, 2019, 9:25 PM

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maybe if possible, she could do something like a red forbidden sun explosion that doesn't harm you, but that would probably confuse the hell out of people

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and man, speaking, while his entrance is cool as hell, the magic gets kinda ruined knowing that it happens every time you summon him

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that could be a suggestion all on its own
making moon lord no longer force you to wait if you summon him via the celestial sigil either after the first time you summon him, or after you kill him once

lost agate Nov 6, 2019, 9:27 PM

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That has been suggested a lot

marble mirage Nov 6, 2019, 9:27 PM

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ah

lost agate Nov 6, 2019, 9:27 PM

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Fargos does it at least

marble mirage Nov 6, 2019, 9:27 PM

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yeah, with the celestially sigil

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though i was talking more about the vanilla summoner

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but i guess you can also get reduced grinding or something and fix that

lost agate Nov 6, 2019, 9:28 PM

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Dunno if you can change the vanilla one to be instant

marble mirage Nov 6, 2019, 9:28 PM

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since that has an item that lets you skip moon lord's intro

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aw man

lost agate Nov 6, 2019, 9:29 PM

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I could try but no promises

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With spaghetti theres never promises

hollow saffron Nov 6, 2019, 9:31 PM

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@winter gorge smh add a reason

tired haven Nov 6, 2019, 9:31 PM

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Oh, a random thing to remember, is astral meteor a 100% chance after first waffle kill? (then 20 and 5 accordingly)

lost agate Nov 6, 2019, 9:32 PM

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The chance for the second and third ones got removed iirc

marble mirage Nov 6, 2019, 9:32 PM

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i think the extra meteors were removed from wall of flesh

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now aureus is the only way to spawn extra ones

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anyways, now i'm actually thinking about removing the transition attack suggestion, and changing it into an added visual effect one

tired haven Nov 6, 2019, 9:33 PM

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Wanted to suggest a minor enemy in space that drops stardust
May be as simple as infected harpy
Mostly for when the meteor for some reason doesn't spawn in the world or is barely accessible, and so you could still get aureus summon without cheating

Since waffle drops one at guaranteed, it may be slightly redundant, which is why I clarified

marble mirage Nov 6, 2019, 9:33 PM

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mostly removing so that i don't keep the starts

lost agate Nov 6, 2019, 9:34 PM

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Or there could be a recipe for stardust

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Either works

marble mirage Nov 6, 2019, 9:34 PM

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could be something like fallen stars and some new material

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or souls of light/night i guess

tired haven Nov 6, 2019, 9:35 PM

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Recipe is kinda, meh
It's not that much similar to fallen stars, since it has the infection bits, and if it actually is, then fallen stars in summon recipe are kind of filler

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But that also could work, ofc

void kelp Nov 6, 2019, 9:36 PM

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astral infected harpy, wyvern?

lost agate Nov 6, 2019, 9:39 PM

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Starskeeter

marble mirage Nov 6, 2019, 9:39 PM

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okay it's done
but yeah, maybe some sort of infected monster could be cool
i was thinking more of an astral sunskeeter

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yeah there we go

plucky matrix Nov 6, 2019, 9:44 PM

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now this is good I like this

tired haven Nov 6, 2019, 9:45 PM

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Skeet family is good

marble mirage Nov 6, 2019, 9:46 PM

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we need more skeeters in calamity

tropic yoke Nov 6, 2019, 10:20 PM

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Do the Sunken Sea and Astral Infection have ambient tiles but the abyss and crag don't?

queen sail Nov 6, 2019, 10:24 PM

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📎 image0.jpg

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thonk

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For a piece of armor giving it no defense sounds kinda

tropic yoke Nov 6, 2019, 10:24 PM

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Copper greaves.
Copper greaves.
Copper greaves.

queen sail Nov 6, 2019, 10:25 PM

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Copper greaves has one point of defense

fervent zealot Nov 6, 2019, 10:25 PM

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wood greaves

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™

queen sail Nov 6, 2019, 10:26 PM

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Oh

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I just saw wood greaves

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Big bruh moment

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:bruh:

void kelp Nov 6, 2019, 10:27 PM

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give it additional defense bonuses tbh since the % improvement is so small— nearly mitigable— early game and wulfrum is supposed to be better than the other readily accessible armors

tired haven Nov 6, 2019, 10:28 PM

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Summoner has no accessible armor really so

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Well, class one that is

fervent zealot Nov 6, 2019, 10:28 PM

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~~honestly rework most of the earlier armors to incorporate flat damage increases because low damage increase %'s are basically useless early~~

void kelp Nov 6, 2019, 10:29 PM

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suggestion time suggestion time suggestion time

queen sail Nov 6, 2019, 10:29 PM

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Give the Wulfrum Helmet (Summoner) a point of defense.

Reason: It’s a piece of armor and Wulfrum is meant to be a better early game armor than Wood. Do I need to say anything else? taxevasion

void kelp Nov 6, 2019, 10:29 PM

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tbh these are good ideas

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suggestion: wulfrum armor rework

tired haven Nov 6, 2019, 10:39 PM

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I feel like I went overkill on suggestion length...

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At least feels like so on mobile

terse sundial Nov 6, 2019, 10:40 PM

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it's good enough

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i'd star it

fervent zealot Nov 6, 2019, 10:40 PM

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it's sorta lengthy but pales in comparison to some suggestions that we shall never speak of

tired haven Nov 6, 2019, 10:40 PM

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SIS era be like AmidiasEvasion

fervent zealot Nov 6, 2019, 10:41 PM

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SIS era be like <><><><><><><><><><><>

lost agate Nov 6, 2019, 10:41 PM

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:why: era be like

fervent zealot Nov 6, 2019, 10:42 PM

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god i remember pre suggestions discussions era and it was just....

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hell in a pure form

tired haven Nov 6, 2019, 10:44 PM

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~~and I was one of the fiercest warriors of that one~~ slobbyjoy

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well, more of active than fierce but you get what i meant

marble mirage Nov 6, 2019, 10:58 PM

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wait hold on
don't you need to be in the astral infection to summon aureus and deus?
which sadly kills the suggestion?

civic pond Nov 6, 2019, 10:58 PM

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only to summon deus

marble mirage Nov 6, 2019, 10:58 PM

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i remember reading about that in the current version's patch notes

civic pond Nov 6, 2019, 10:58 PM

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p sure aureus can be summoned anywhere

void kelp Nov 6, 2019, 10:58 PM

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you need the materials to craft the summon anyways

civic pond Nov 6, 2019, 10:58 PM

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thonken

void kelp Nov 6, 2019, 10:58 PM

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not anymore, newest patch changed that doge

civic pond Nov 6, 2019, 10:58 PM

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oh?

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wait fuck, i didn't even notice the new patch

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br

foggy grove Nov 6, 2019, 10:59 PM

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The main problem Ive noticed with astral infection gen is that if the meteor is too far underground, the surface wont be infected
Its happened to me at least 4 times now

marble mirage Nov 6, 2019, 10:59 PM

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yeah, astrum aureus can only be spawned in the astral infection now

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just read up again

ashen warren Nov 6, 2019, 11:09 PM

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infested sunskeeter

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infested sunskeeter

sand umbra Nov 6, 2019, 11:13 PM

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STARSKATER

quick ice Nov 6, 2019, 11:14 PM

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Do it please

tired haven Nov 6, 2019, 11:18 PM

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Was this really changed? Ouch

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Wiki still states aureus can be summoned anywhere, but that may be due to update delay

queen sail Nov 6, 2019, 11:20 PM

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Changeligma says so

sand umbra Nov 6, 2019, 11:20 PM

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yeppers peppers, it's in the 100% cha-chinglog

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Aureus and Deuces Wild can only be summoned in the Infection proper now

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(which really makes it even more pertinent that some way be added to obtain Stardust without a physical Infection present)

terse sundial Nov 6, 2019, 11:22 PM

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nice

tired haven Nov 6, 2019, 11:22 PM

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Now we also may need astral powder

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To spread it daryl
(or just ask steampunker nicely for a solution ig)

terse sundial Nov 6, 2019, 11:23 PM

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oh btw, since I just sent a ton of suggestions over a few days ago, here is a status of suggetions that have been approved, denayed, and implemented (kinda a wall of text, you've been warned)

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Recent Suggestions Rejected
https://discordapp.com/channels/225030931008847874/263382359397761025/637686729264070666
https://discordapp.com/channels/225030931008847874/263382359397761025/637786247393312780
https://discordapp.com/channels/225030931008847874/263382359397761025/639283742229397546

Recent Suggestions Accepted
https://discordapp.com/channels/225030931008847874/263382359397761025/639365861605507093
https://discordapp.com/channels/225030931008847874/263382359397761025/638906701461848075
https://discordapp.com/channels/225030931008847874/263382359397761025/638709046924279808
https://discordapp.com/channels/225030931008847874/263382359397761025/638132349313351775
https://discordapp.com/channels/225030931008847874/263382359397761025/637849074703532053

hearty yew Nov 6, 2019, 11:24 PM

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@mossy shale regardless of whether this suggestion gets approved, I am moving the configs over. it is on my todo list.

terse sundial Nov 6, 2019, 11:25 PM

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I'm going to do this more often, as otherwise it's a buildup of suggetions

worn salmon Nov 6, 2019, 11:42 PM

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wow

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nice

civic pond Nov 6, 2019, 11:42 PM

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o

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thanks merko

tropic yoke Nov 6, 2019, 11:46 PM

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Give the abyss some luv

civic pond Nov 6, 2019, 11:46 PM

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tbh some of the abyss is bland, but isn't the bottom supposed to be desolate thonken

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i think it'd be neat, it just seems weird

fervent zealot Nov 6, 2019, 11:47 PM

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the abyss doesn't have a lot of flat space for background tiles so wall or background stuff would probably be a lot better

tropic yoke Nov 6, 2019, 11:47 PM

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Even if it's supposed to be bland and desolate, but right now it is only voidstone blocks and walls.

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There's bound to be at least some neat geography down there.

civic pond Nov 6, 2019, 11:48 PM

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fair enough.

tropic yoke Nov 6, 2019, 11:48 PM

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Hydrothermal vents would look Gasm in the abyss.

queen sail Nov 6, 2019, 11:49 PM

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Tf is a prop tile

tropic yoke Nov 6, 2019, 11:49 PM

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Like the rocks you break to get worms.

opal silo Nov 6, 2019, 11:49 PM

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Prop tiles are decoration but unobtainable and natural

tropic yoke Nov 6, 2019, 11:49 PM

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They make the world feel more real.

queen sail Nov 6, 2019, 11:50 PM

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Ah

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Ehhhh why not

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Wouldn’t hurt

opal silo Nov 6, 2019, 11:50 PM

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And natural light

tropic yoke Nov 6, 2019, 11:50 PM

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The creatures do that enough.

opal silo Nov 6, 2019, 11:50 PM

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I'd like more light

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Actually

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What light source doesn't break underwater

tropic yoke Nov 6, 2019, 11:50 PM

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It's supposed to be dark.

opal silo Nov 6, 2019, 11:51 PM

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Imma fill the abyss with it

tropic yoke Nov 6, 2019, 11:51 PM

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You can light it up if your character has enough buffs on, tho

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Ichor/Cursed torches.

opal silo Nov 6, 2019, 11:51 PM

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I want the whole abyss to be bright

tropic yoke Nov 6, 2019, 11:51 PM

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We're gettin' a little offtopic.

opal silo Nov 6, 2019, 11:51 PM

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I can paint the ichor/cursed torches white to have a bright light

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Ya we are

tropic yoke Nov 6, 2019, 11:51 PM

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kek

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Hope my suggestion ⭐ reputation isn't crushed by this.

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I like ⭐

civic pond Nov 6, 2019, 11:53 PM

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im down for this.

lost agate Nov 7, 2019, 12:04 AM

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Tha hell is a prop tile

queen sail Nov 7, 2019, 12:05 AM

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Destroyable background objects

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Like the brain/table coral in the sunken sea

lost agate Nov 7, 2019, 12:05 AM

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Uh, i really think you should add that definition in the sugg

queen sail Nov 7, 2019, 12:05 AM

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And the rocks you find on the surface that have worms

tropic yoke Nov 7, 2019, 12:05 AM

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📎 799px-Ambient_objects.png

lost agate Nov 7, 2019, 12:06 AM

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cuz this is legit the first time i heard someone said prop tiles

tropic yoke Nov 7, 2019, 12:07 AM

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Should I say ambient objects?

queen sail Nov 7, 2019, 12:07 AM

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Background objects, maybe

tropic yoke Nov 7, 2019, 12:08 AM

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IS that weird?

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Posting twice?

queen sail Nov 7, 2019, 12:08 AM

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You uhhhh

tropic yoke Nov 7, 2019, 12:08 AM

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I can't add an image in the edit

zenith hazel Nov 7, 2019, 12:08 AM

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yes

void kelp Nov 7, 2019, 12:08 AM

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I’d edit it into the original post

tropic yoke Nov 7, 2019, 12:08 AM

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aight

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well...

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I can't

queen sail Nov 7, 2019, 12:08 AM

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Might wanna delete the pic and add a link of the picture to the original sugg instead

zenith hazel Nov 7, 2019, 12:08 AM

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attach a discord link then

tropic yoke Nov 7, 2019, 12:08 AM

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...

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how

hollow idol Nov 7, 2019, 12:09 AM

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does the abyss currently have tiles like that, because ive seen sprites of them floating around but its dark

void kelp Nov 7, 2019, 12:09 AM

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the image will be imbed naturally

tropic yoke Nov 7, 2019, 12:09 AM

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ooh

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So...
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/465195069406707722/641790395650539561/799px-Ambient_objects.png

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Noice

civic pond Nov 7, 2019, 12:09 AM

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even some like

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tiny lumenyl rocks

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h

zenith hazel Nov 7, 2019, 12:10 AM

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attach that link to your original sugg then

tropic yoke Nov 7, 2019, 12:10 AM

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There

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:D

lost agate Nov 7, 2019, 12:10 AM

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isnt there mineable lumenyl there already?

fervent zealot Nov 7, 2019, 12:10 AM

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actually this suggestion reminded me of something i've been meaning to post for a while