Azathoth exist-er
#suggestions-discussion
distant gyro
hollow shell
@frozen basin The Oracle
hollow idol
yeah oracle
distant gyro
there's also azathoth but 
hollow shell
yeah true
frozen basin
Probably stupid question - But would it be more logical to use The Oracle or Dragon Pow? 'Cause the 2 have a huge damage gap from what I can see. Unless The Oracle matches it by afflicting debuffs, etc. I haven't actually gotten that far yet, I'm just looking at the recipe browser to see how the values are late/end-game lol
hollow shell
Are you talking about base damage, like their damage stats?
frozen basin
@hollow shell Yeah
hollow shell
Base damage means very little as you go through Post-ML, because ignoring immunity frames becomes a thing
Just know that anything in the same tier is going to be about equal power when used correctly
frozen basin
Alright, thanks.
hollow shell
np
severe vapor
Yeah I got confused by that too
frosty kindle
There's only a few exceptions that stick out
obtuse hawk
Alrright, I know what death mode does, right, but the fact that Destroyer is "approaching" me EVERY SINGLE night is just annoying. I just entered hardmode? What am I suppost to do If I dont want to die and there's no way I can dodge Destroyer's shots? Restart world? Isnt that just a bit unfair?
What do you guys think of suggestion to decrease his "approaching" rate in death mode?
placid moth
Disable Death
obtuse hawk
Well, maybe, but this damn worm is harassing me 4th time in a row and I remember him doing that a lot before the patch.
distant gyro
go underground
imo death mode spawns aren't bad because you can evade it exactly 59 seconds after approach message by leaving the biome
obtuse hawk
Do you mean, if I leave whatever biome I'm in, Destroyer will just refuse to spawn?
If that doesnt work, that means, I'm forced to speedrun very beginning of hardmode to get moon-sunlight thingy.
distant gyro
no
placid moth
Honestly, just get Cosmolight at the start of the game via CheatSheet
distant gyro
examples for some spawns :
eye of cthulhu/mech bosses/aureus - go underground
desert scourge - leave desert
queen bee/birb/plaguebringer goliath - go underground or leave jungle
evil bosses - leave evil biome
the list goes on
you can literally evade every single spawn with this tactic
obtuse hawk
Oh... thanks. That will help.
distant gyro
@neon python I heard custom death messages will be in eventually
for now it's a ☑ iirc
neon python
got ya
austere lion
Suggestion: make SCal and her brothers stay closer to the player
Reason: You wont be able to hit Scal with yoyos on low resolution PC
opal barn
Just use a different weapon then
austere lion
But I want to make a yoyo playthrough
opal barn
The fight doesn't need to change just because you have a small resolution and want to do a self imposed challenge, that would screw up the fight for a lot more people
austere lion
radiant meadow
@neon python already did that for next update
Although there is still only one message
Adding more than one makes the code get extremely messy
neon python
Great! 1 different message is still a hell lot better than the rod of discord death message :D
worn salmon
player name went to the hospital
queen delta
<player> got eviscerated under Terry’s hands.
hearty yew
@neon python Death messages already done for next update
obtuse hawk
I like that one.
"<player> died, lol."
hearty yew
Player stepped on a Lego.
neon python
I LiKe iT
foggy kindle
Lmao
ashen warren
unless a falling star spawns literally inside a planetoid hive...?
terse sundial
@odd terrace That should already be the case, if the larva is offscreen it cannot break from external sources
odd terrace
It’s happened to me several times
ashen warren
arent falling stars classed as player projectiles iirc
odd terrace
Unless it was fixed recently.
terse sundial
also like, it's extremely unlucky that a fallen star can spawn within the planetoid
yeah, they are
so yes, this suggestion is valid lmao
rugged mist
Are you sure it was a falling star that did it
ashen warren
but more importantly yeah falling stars cant reach a larva because they dont go through blocks
terse sundial
^
odd terrace
I’ve seen them inside of planetoids
terse sundial
did this happen on a small world?
odd terrace
Large
terse sundial
hm
ashen warren
now thats a thonk
terse sundial
it's super unlikely that it will ever spawn perfectly within the hive planetoid and hit the larva in the first place
especially on a large world
odd terrace
I assume it’s falling stars doing it. I don’t see any other plausible explanation for Queen Bees randomly spawning while I’m sitting in base (and then later finding an empty hive in a planetoid).
It’s happened a few times to me so far
It’s not too surprising when you realize how common fallen stars actually are
I’ve gotten close to 100 from using a Ceaseless Hunger Potion at ~4:00am
radiant pawn
I’ve gotten close to 100 from using a Ceaseless Hunger Potion at ~4:00am
yea but those fall around the world
its too unlikely for a star to spawn inside a hive
in what stage of the game are you rn?
'cause it could've been your own projectiles
signal prairie
That entire suggestion about the hive is the definition of this emote 
queen delta
The random QB spawns will forever be a mystery
radiant pawn
For example
I once used Voiddragon in a random direction
And the projectile explosion caused a larva to break
teal ibex
the queen bee larva can break from: literally nothing the moment you load a world
it's just kind of an issue that has too many factors to ever fully resolve
tired haven
The only thing larva misses to be absolute destroyer of templates is random chance to collapse every frame
Just in case you block it too good
ashen warren
sounds like a good maso ex change
radiant pawn
ashen warren
if (type == TileID.Larva)
WorldGen.KillTile(i, j);
}```
ashen warren
the game updates completely random tiles somewhere in the world every tick
tired haven
Actually, if you are gonna implement the random breaks, how about not actually breaking larvas so you have to clean them yourself
ashen warren
karmic stone
Doesn't she already do?
karmic stone
Last time i checked she did iirc
next palm
when i dont know yet so ima chck
distant gyro
she already does
tired haven
Well you should know if you suggest something like that
distant gyro
karmic stone
queen delta
Lol
queen sail
Why would she not sell astral solution if she was in the astral
tired haven
It's the sole source of astral solution, in fact
queen sail
It’s a thing vanilla does for certain town npcs
next palm
oh she does
terse sundial
queen delta
No
next palm
or remove it?
terse sundial
i deleted it
opal barn
A bruh emote is not getting added
queen sail
:bruh:
next palm
queen sail
||:ech:||
next palm
|| dont read this you will be cursed like to not be cursed and 10000000000 years of goodluck 
||
opal barn
Cease thanks
opal barn
-2 mod points for yata for threatning members
next palm
radiant pawn
Bad yata, bad
queen delta
Seriously tho, don’t do that stuff here
hearty yew
@ashen warren There are no plans to convert existing thrown items to rogue. However, other mods' throwing equipment and armor does provide boosts for Calamity rogue items.
void kelp
also any debuffs to throwing also affect rogue
hollow shell
Also @ashen warren, don't include two separate suggestions in one message
It makes it difficult for people to vote on whether they want it or not
The throwing-rogue compatibility thing is a Don't, as well.
Throwing is getting removed in 1.4 and the Rogue expansion update is coming soon
no need to tie them any closer together if it's just gonna get undone
ashen warren
ahh didnt know that, thank you for explaining
next palm
@ashen warren dont say hi and then a suggestion
torpid delta
^
next palm
say a suggestion
ashen warren
Sorry if im coming out as too fast
torpid delta
jus put your suggestion in, man
next palm
#suggestions-voting isnt for talking
torpid delta
you don't need our permission
ashen warren
oh dam well ok
torpid delta
even if it's garbage, the worst that'll happen is maybe someone will just say why it's bad in here
ashen warren
There are not many flamethrowers in the game, and i was thinking
how about a flamethrower shaped like a goose that honks when you use it
torpid delta
i mean, compared to most mods, calamity has quite a few
next palm
yeah
torpid delta
hell i'd say calamity has enough flamethrowers to do a full playthrough with them if you're enough of a masochist
ashen warren
True
torpid delta
but then again I don't know
ashen warren
I just feel like i need more because I just think they are neat
ashen warren
Hm...
torpid delta
overloaded blaster counts as a flameth- oh right it uses gel
overloaded blaster is so good
ashen warren
But like, there is many post sup clam weapons, so how about a flamethrower? because it might be a good transition from photoivisorator
next palm
photo viscator never gets love
ashen warren
and i need the satasfaction of burning things in STYLE
reef plover
post-scal weapons are dev weapons
torpid delta
^
ashen warren
How about like a starter flamethrower?
there are only 2
and only OLB is good at all
and I would rather use copper shortsword than shade thrower
torpid delta
i think you're really underestimating how fun shadethrower is
some weapons can just be fun, and that's all they need
ashen warren
i was thinking, like a flamethrower you can use right up until WOF
reef plover
also they aren't supposed to be all over progression
torpid delta
as a starter?
ashen warren
no not then, in the middle of the beggining
reef plover
they're a subset of the range class, not their own class
reef plover
also that'd be stupid op
ashen warren
LISTEN MAN I LIKE WHEN THE FLAMES GO PHSOOOWO AND ITS COOL
But if not that...... then.........
terse sundial
ashen warren
rocker launcher perhaps? ?? ?? ? ? ??
reef plover
we understand this, but we're just telling you reasons why the mod does these things
terse sundial
Specific Item suggestions aren't currently allowed
reef plover
and why it doesn't
ashen warren
Gotcha
terse sundial
if you aren't going to edit your suggestion, i'm just going to remove it for the time being
civic pond
h
queen delta
Its already been decided that quality > quantity
civic pond
no point adding some emotes if no one uses them
so i just went with some well known ones
queen delta
I personally prefer more emotes over quality ones since this is just a discord server but many has agreed on that so oh well
queen delta
Read what I said
civic pond
i know
queen delta
We could have unlimited emote slots and we’d still have this
swift bison
dev tier photoviscerator is just photoviscerator but the local iframe cooldown is set to 1 instead of 5 
lost agate
Idea totally not stolen from #wiki-basic
hardy wing
uhoh
ashen warren
@hardy wing dont meme in #suggestions-voting 
hardy wing
hearty plaza
why do we have 
but not a single ech or a single pogchamp
hearty plaza
wtf fargo say "hey this deserves 10 thousand more stars because I agree" in here not in #suggestions-voting, you memer
dusty stirrup
Fargo walking in to break the rules 
ashen warren
it really do be like that
civic pond
thanks for the support mr fargo person mutant sans
radiant meadow
this is power
lost agate
Dark fargo taking authority over fargo (circa, 1990 colorised)
ashen warren
:echthink:
radiant pawn
@ashen warren its useless to make throwing stuff rogue now
since those will change into ranged on journey's end
ashen warren
i've been told that already lmao
radiant pawn
its out of topic but i think fargo's mutant can do that
with flails. throwing spears and knives
you right click that item and it transforms into throwing iirc
radiant meadow
but transforming them to rogue is another story
sand umbra
transforming an item to thrown is one thing, yeah
the moment you factor in things like Calamity's rogue class, all hell breaks loose
radiant pawn
oh yeah
sand umbra
I actually tried once...and ended up making the Shadowflame Knife classless as a result because lole
sand umbra
I should note that making a projectile inherit rogue properties is perfectly doable
it is turning the item itself rogue, to allow it to fully benefit from rogue bonuses, that to my knowledge isn't doable
(that said, it IS possible to make rogue variants of weapons, and to make them have all the characteristics of the original weapon, but deal rogue damage)
carmine stream
honestly ech would be nice
zenith hazel
thing is, people will be spamming it like they have with tax evasion
civic pond
isn't that usually when their first added
zenith hazel
the topic of adding unnecessary emotes doesn’t sit well with Danny
civic pond
i dunno
void kelp
I just want ech tbh
zenith hazel
it’s sparked arguments and I’d want to avoid that
civic pond
"unnecessary" is kind of vague
considering we have at least 3 variants of smugs
and
zenith hazel
look, I don’t wanna start another god damn war among mods, which is why the whole emote thing is very concerning to us
bitter topaz
tl;dr emotes cause us intense pain for reasons we really can't go into
queen delta
Also I think this needs a blue check
zenith hazel
it’s a very long story, like what Bidoof said
civic pond
zenith hazel
weird, I remembering seeing a ton of emote suggestions
sinful violet
Brav that's not an issue anymore and he's admitted there was no need for himself to get heated about it.
If it comes up again we have another system which we can fall back to.
civic pond
oh ok
zenith hazel
but still, it’s preferable to not have that debate again if it ever comes up, I’m just taking some precaution
half basalt
I'd ask... but nah.
proven tide
While we're at Candle tweaks, how about we make it so that the Chaos/Tranquility Candles, the Drunk Princess's Candles, and the Corruption/Crimson Effigies apply their respective buffs constantly, rather than with a speedy refresh rate?
As it is now the refresh is dependent on FPS so if you lag hard enough there will be gaps between the buff running down and it re-applying itself, leading to enemies spawning on off frames or health flickering up and down.
yes/no 
good talk
lost agate
If spaghetti allows us yes
proven tide
then here goes
proven tide
vanilla does it with uhhhh
🅱eans tiles
like campfires
so maybe you could rip that
erm
i missed a message 
brittle merlin
i sense a chain suggestion approaching
proven tide
a related suggestion is not a chain suggestion unless it overtly mentions or relies on a previous suggestion
are you sure it's gonna be a chain 👀
lost agate
Or he literally just wrote or and left it
brittle merlin
it started with "or"
proven tide
oh my god
lost agate
Lmao i cant even star that or
proven tide
@marble token or have the projectiles home 
marble token
That seems a tad overkill but a slight home maybe. Just something man it's so sad lol
hollow shell
@proven tide Problem:
Vanilla also just has a speedy refresh rate for those (an even shorter buff duration actually), along with other 'constant' buffs in both vanilla and Calamity
The only thing I can assume from this is that the tModLoader function for checking if the player is nearby a tile is just not very efficient or doesn't run on every frame
proven tide
oh yeah; this is big brain time.
hollow shell
(also, the vanilla functions for tile vicinity granting buffs are defined in the Lighting file. Just thought I'd point that out)
(that same file has a section where it sets the campfire bool to false.. twice, in the same block of code
where nothing in the 3 lines between the two false-settings could possibly set it to true)
(Because proofreading.)
bright mountain
that good?
hollow shell
This technically should be bluechecked but I'm letting it slide because the original was from January and this new mod seems useful
proven tide
the vanilla functions for tile vicinity granting buffs are defined in the Lighting file
ruby cobalt
did you expect anything else?
ashen warren
Does this trip the specific item thing?
teal ibex
no, rekindling existing items is cool as i understand it
obviously within reason, completely overhauling without any consideration isnt excellent
granite owl
ok rework other useless expert items then
acoustic ferry
does hive pack fall under that category or have i not used enough beenades with it on?
night cradle
Hive Pack is fine as it is
ashen warren
hive pack is amazing what are you smoking 
placid moth
People use Hive Pack ?
distant gyro
as a material for plague hive sometimes for bee gun and bee's knees
lime moat
What about beenades?
sleek parcel
Don't want to put this on suggestions just yet, but how are people feeling about changing every sprite on April 01 to clams?
ashen warren
It would be something I guess
Would take a lot of time for something that wouldn't last all that long
lime moat
Very true.
pulsar rock
is something like a Totality Soul a good suggestion
here's the explaination
its derived from the lore itself, the presence of a dryad that which soul had sunken deep into the abyss, clumped up into a pile of energy
maybe gives some hp buffs but found at the very bottom of the abyss
sand umbra
specific item suggs got memed a while back
I like the idea, but like. SI suggs aren't allowed
sand umbra
yes
pulsar rock
getting shitted on by eidolon always wouldnt be fun honestly, some rock bottom abyss stuff would be nice
hoary hinge
I mean you get terminus there - the fact Yharon drops it is just a leftover from when people played on worlds without the update that added shrines
ashen warren
shrines can fail to spawn
though, having a 1x1 hidden breakable spot actually buried in the voidstone at the bottom would be neat
related to silva
sand umbra
the fact Yharon drops it is a holdover from back when shrines failing to spawn was a fairly common thing, iirc
lost agate
It stayed as a failsafe cuz who knows anymore
sand umbra
worldgen 
lost agate
Like look, fab had to replace the temple worldgen entirely cuz people wouldnt stop calling golem bs for things that arent even a thing from golem
I have like an entire collection of temple worldgen memes
This being the worst one so far
sand umbra
temple gen is an enormous meme
and a hilarious one at that when you're not on the receiving end of it
lost agate
Its even more of a meme when you check its code
sand umbra
rand that always returns true
lost agate
if (WorldGen.genRand.Next(1) == 0)
sand umbra
the single most unimportant line ever written in redcode
sand umbra
such random
ashen warren
it pushes the seed to a value with the maximum likelihood to break the temple
lost agate
I mean it literally has functions to ignore errors
sand umbra
of course it does, who am I kidding
so that's why errors appear with TML installed at all from time to time
maybe
like suddenly a random error just comes up for seemingly no reason
usually an index out of range error or something, I might be retarded and it might be something else entirely
lost agate
Idk really
sand umbra
who fucking knows at this point
tired haven
Not even god knows
(i mean technically you could just compile the game without that string of a code and test but who will care for this)
void kelp
🏁 for doge’s emote suggestion since 
exists
swift bison
queen sail
@mossy shale you can craft exodium and cinderplate
supple lodge
Also there’s no Auric Slime iirc
mossy shale
I've literally said that in the suggestion
queen sail
Why slimes though
mossy shale
Because it's good to be consistent
queen sail
There’s barely any place in space
mossy shale
Maybe they can be flying slimes or something
mossy shale
Well who says we cant have another flying slime?
lapis vigil
Me
mossy shale
Damn 
Also yeah apparently there isnt an auric slime
Damn the wiki lied
Saying that exodium cluster is the only ore without a slime counterpart
magic verge
why would you need that much aurum and exodium tho
mossy shale
To be consistent with every other ore
hoary hinge
you literally need like 60 exodium for the whole game iirc
you'll only be in trouble if either A - you have a world without planetoids, or B - you're playing a 30+ player server
mossy shale
Doesn't it also spawn in sky islands?
hoary hinge
it spawns on high sky islands yeah
but yeah either way any exodium we get from a slime would be likely sold
mossy shale
Well I just like consistency and Calamity likes avoiding stuff that's non-renewable and reliant on worldgen
lyric citrus
i play on 10 player servers usually
hoary hinge
okay, but exodium is already renewable so i guess the only problem there would be auric
and yeah the exodium recipe is kinda jank but i'm fine with it
lyric citrus
the game becomes trivially easy so we focus on building
hoary hinge
@lyric citrus i don't want to go off topic too long but 1 question - doesn't the game scale super high with 10 players? or does calamity turn that off
lyric citrus
we usually fight bosses with 3 players so probably but idk
not everyone plays at the same time
distant gyro
@mossy shale wdym wiki lied btw
pinpointing the question further being what page (so it could be edited)
mossy shale
Sorry for late reply but it's on the Exodium Cluster trivia
distant gyro
"This ore does not have a Slime counterpart."
there's nothing about being the only ore without a counterpart
latest revision was on October 1 so it wasn't a recent change either
mossy shale
Could've sworn it did. My bad
mossy shale
Guys I know you can craft exodium
I'm just saying there should be a slime to be consistent with the other ores
swift bison
Rename Exo Weapons to Auric weapons iirc
teal ibex
it's in the very first sentence how do people keep missing it
carmine spindle
radiant pawn
Apart from building
Why would we need an auric ore slime
you can already make everything you need from your class or accesories
With less than 700 iirc
We dont have cosmilite slimes too but we dont complain
sand umbra
Cosmilite Bars drop from DoG
radiant pawn
dog is a hard boss but no one complains about farming DoG
sand umbra
so that's. not really a fair comparison at all
radiant pawn
You can mine auric and everyone says "we need auric slime"
sand umbra
Lemme guess, you're also gonna point out we don't have Luminite slimes because there's already another renewable source of Luminite available to begin with?
rugged mist
The idea is it exists in a limited quantity and isnt a renewable resource
sand umbra
The big takeaway here has nothing to do with how you obtain Auric Ore be it from mining or whatever enemy.
It has to do with the fact that it's non-renewable in the first place.
rugged mist
Cosmilite can be farmed infinitely
tired haven
Well see exodium isn't limited anymore
radiant pawn
Lemme guess, you're also gonna point out we don't have Luminite slimes because there's already another renewable source of Luminite available to begin with?
gosh you found me out
queen delta
Why does it have to be slimes? You could get creative and go with exodium harpies or something
And auric diggers
radiant pawn
The amount of auric you need to make everything you need is far from the amount in the world
tired haven
"alloy vultures" 
queen sail
Auric drones made by draedon or smth
queen sail
Because you could be greedy
sand umbra
auric drones are probably a good idea idk
tired haven
Auric wulfrum drones
lost agate
I thought you could get a crap ton of auric ore
radiant pawn
makes a buzzing noise
queen sail
Probes used by Yharim for _ _ _
sinful violet
Funny!
queen sail
sinful violet
Out
queen sail
Literally the things i’m saying have 0 legitimate effort/thought put into them
lost agate
Like the auric veins are fucken huuuuge
tired haven
Gotta love the generic "if you know what I mean"
tired haven
reason?
tired haven
reason x2?
radiant pawn
roar of the auric dragon
queen sail
Like there’s no reason stated why they’re so big in comparison to other calam ores
You can’t say “muh crafting” because most exo tier equipment recipes have rather cheap material costs
radiant pawn
making enemies drop exodium or auric is just saying i want to build with this block
just hack the ore in to build
magic verge
we dont make every boss a worm boss because consisency
sand umbra
uniqueness also isn't a reason to have Auric Ore veins the size of Jupiter when you can mine one vein and never need it again
to put it on the opposite side of the coin
ashen warren
auric ore veins are now capped at five blocks
magic verge
thats more of a overtuning problem
sand umbra
most Auric Ore stuff is fantastically cheap
queen sail
Because boss designs are honestly just up to the devs
sand umbra
as far as the ore req itself goes
tired haven
Time to make auric ore veins as big as natural crimtane veins
queen sail
Actually wait just suggest Draedon to be a worm
tired haven
queen sail
Perfection
radiant pawn
The exodium recipe isnt so bad even
sand umbra
gamer time
rugged mist
To get auric ore you have to install a mod in minecraft that you gain access to after killing yharon and then find the ore in that mod and it gets transferred to terraria
lost agate
Well would you rather have to demolish all your world just to get enough for a weapon?
queen sail
We already do tbh
magic verge
just add a lore reason why auric is so abundant and there you go
lost agate
Reminder it still only spawns very deep
tired haven
Only minor part of the world currently tho
sand umbra
considering I don't have to do that with any other ore that works literally the same way as I'm suggesting Auric Ore works
queen sail
I mean I have to deal with SoA modded ore spawns so
sand umbra
no, I wouldn't rather have to demolish all of my world just to get enough for a single weapon
sand umbra
which is why I mentioned adding a renewable source of it to compensate for Auric Ore veins not being humongous
lost agate
Auric ore is unique because of its big veins and you wanna take that away?
ashen warren
lets make auric ore fight back
sand umbra
what reason does Auric Ore have to have enormous veins in the first place
lost agate
Every auric ore you break spawns yharon
ashen warren
whenever you mine one, an exoblade with super-enchanted sword AI pops out
sand umbra
...exoblade enchanted sword
queen sail
CalaMaso memes 
sand umbra
I'm saving that one for later
tired haven
You need about 340 auric ore for an average gear set with 1 exo weapon
Which is about 3 current veins
ashen warren
auric ore, but it has meteorite mechanics and is protected by swarms of exo weapons
lost agate
Hue
tired haven
Swarms of drataliornuses smh
ashen warren
not drat because drat sucks
queen sail
Well if that’s the issue why don’t we do things for the other ore veins
radiant pawn
apotheosis exes
lost agate
Because you want to remove the only thing that makes one of the many ores interesting
radiant pawn
You want to make auric ore like mining cryonic ore
lost agate
How do it for it the rest if you wanna remove the only one who is mildly interesting as of rn
radiant pawn
too tiring that you want to zerg out some slimes
tired haven
I have an idea, every time you mine natural auric ore block you summon enraged yharon
ashen warren
mining auric ore spawns yharim boss
magic verge
minin yharon spawns auric ore
lost agate
Auric armor is a godly aura so you need to be god to get close
rugged mist
You have to land the final hit on yharon with a pickaxe to get auric ore
radiant pawn
You need Yharim's yes to mine Auric
tired haven
@cosmic steeple this is a common suggestion and also seemingly implemented
void kelp
In the next update iirc
radiant pawn
@cosmic steeple already suggested, already added
cosmic steeple
tired haven
Changelogs
radiant pawn
Shhh~
rugged mist
Imagine not discussing your suggestions in suggestions discussion before suggesting your suggestions in suggestions
lost agate
It aint on changelogs iirc
queen sail
Already been considered a lot
lost agate
So considered its implemented
tired haven
mhm
Either way it's just cherry-picking on wording, since it is implemented in next update
terse sundial
already been done
queen sail
Actually
terse sundial
i'll just delete it at this point as there is literally no reason for it
tired haven
who knows
terse sundial
lost agate
because you suggest it not do it
radiant pawn
perrenial clinger
tired haven
Maybe it's hard to go actually creative for enemy designs and following one line seems more fitting
lost agate
Chaotic chaos elemental
tired haven
Slimes are known as free material source, especially ores
radiant pawn
slimes dropping Exoblade
tired haven
Not that far from truth
They will drop spelunker potion so you find that auric ore vein
radiant pawn
make that a 1/10million chance of spawning
lost agate
Lol
radiant pawn
you can get Exoblade from a slime in prehm by a regular slime
1 in 10 million chance
lost agate
Halibut 2.0
radiant pawn
it is a meme suggestion sadly so i cant say it
queen sail
I mean hey
signal prairie
and defiled rune makes it more rare
rugged mist
Rare chance to get a full set of endgame gear when you open the starter bag
signal prairie
tired haven
1st april starter bag
lost agate
But yeah
magic verge
dont know what yall are meming about, those were how legendary weapons worked
tired haven
Well, they had scaling at least
lost agate
I could see some ore slimes to be made more interesting or as an entirely new enemy
tired haven
(it didn't really help but wasn't natively broken either)
magic verge
right now they are bouncing loot boxes
lost agate
Bloom slimes could be made like jungle slimes but hyper buffed
rugged mist
I remember when my friend got a legendary weapon and used it for like the whole run while I had to keep scrambling around to get new things and keep up
Fun times
magic verge
yeah legendary weapons literally were the best weapons in the mod
lost agate
Perennial could be made into smth like an enemy that spits spores and gas
Seeing how perennial is based around that
magic verge
hitting a perennial slime makes it explode in to a spore cloud similar to how other plant based forms reproduce
like it dies in one hit
and deals lot of damage in the explosion
sand umbra
🛬
lost agate
Not so dangerous if you kill it from far away
sand umbra
why is Aerialite underground and why is it an ore
lost agate
Cuz random blocks in the sky would be aids
sand umbra
then turn it into a unique material that drops from certain Sky Island/Space layer stuff
🛫
queen sail
Aero = ???
Cryonic = Cryons, probably
Perennial = Snatchers that look like Plantera?
Uelibloom = Tortoises, because suffer
magic verge
aero is from air
lost agate
Oh yeah i would really like if cryons had more of a porpuse
lost agate
Yeah lol
queen sail
How does it spawn from killing 200 IQ tho
lost agate
It spawns very close to the surface
queen sail
mossy shale
Victide could be from jellyfish... if it wasn't already renewable
magic verge
because the death of the boss infuses the underground, which air pockets recieve magic and condense in to ore
lost agate
Well hive mind is literally plugged into the ground
Anywho thats kind of a #lore-discussion thing
queen sail
Victide, Statigel, Mollusk, Ataxia, Bloodflare, Omega Blue, and Godslayer are all renewable armors that do not require slimes
Iirc
lost agate
Because other things drop it yes
distant gyro
ye
lost agate
Well statigel literally comes from slimes already
queen sail
Forgot ataxia
queen sail
Silva isn’t if there’s no planty mush
lost agate
Nah aerialite is renewable
magic verge
clouds arent
distant gyro
Planty mush is fishable
magic verge
and other sky stuff
queen sail
Because tenebris can’t spawn w/o it
magic verge
yeah, but i said armor
sand umbra
other idea: Aero Slimes could also rarely drop it ig
queen sail
:echprime: no
night cradle
eh, I'd prefer if the boss actually dropped it rather than just a normal enemy
queen sail
All the stones are boss drops
lost agate
That would be inconsistent thomas
distant gyro
Hot take : Bloom Stone still exists and is titled after Uelibloom which was spawned by Peanut Butter Gamer at some point
lost agate
Yeah but idk if i want HoTE to be post provi
sand umbra
?????
queen sail
Rare prov drop but prov has samurai badge
queen sail
sand umbra
or retexture it and move it to, hear me out
plantera
distant gyro
alternatively plantera yea
lost agate
Byeah
Its just a matter of what you want
Just a name change or an entire tier and redesign change
lost agate
Dunno how strong it is rn
distant gyro
It does things
lost agate
If its lackluster as it is rn, why nerf it
distant gyro
Speaking of which is Toxic Heart still meh
distant gyro
Flower boots effect is lol btw
lost agate
Wait you get a summon from bloom stone?
queen sail
No HotE
queen sail
Yeah all the stones are mostly just stat boosts
Bloom stone has a debuff aura and flower boots effect
Well, not a debuff aura per se, but enemies take damage near you
Bc you didn’t take a shower
distant gyro
Dryad's Bane happen
lost agate
distant gyro
sand umbra
dryad’s bane is a meme
lost agate
Edited the sugg a bit
bright mountain
oof it got bluechecked
lost agate
Yours? Yeah it has been suggested a lot
civic pond
o 90 stars
bright mountain
i mean the others where differant
1 i found was to make a system yourself
another was to put it into the vanilla system
and the original
was for another mod that was taken doen because it wasnt compatible with latest tmod version
and thats every time
civic pond
Yharims getting added anyways
vocal grotto
^
queen delta
lost agate
@civic pond btw guess what
lost agate
your suggestion got in
lost agate
you know which one?
lost agate
Well it didnt get in exactly like you suggested but mourning star got its tier changed
queen delta
Wasnt it mentioned somewhere that it was being moved to post-provi?
lost agate
Byeah
civic pond
o
lost agate
I had to nerf it a crap ton cuz it wouldnt stop melting signus lol
civic pond
im very glad to hear that
sturdy yoke
ayy, not going to get overshadowed by cosmic discharge immediately
lost agate
I dont think its really is
After all you got stuff like the last mourning in there already
civic pond
at the very least viable, it makes my flail only run easier.
lost agate
also i did a le funny in the recipe
queen delta
69 solar fragments?
civic pond
:squint:
lost agate
No not that
queen delta
awe
lost agate
Imagine making a weapon solely out of solar fragments then needing more to upgrade it
open brook
What the people think about my suggestion?
hollow saffron
i thought cryo slimes only spawned underground anyway
and its not really a massive amount
terse sundial
The slimes are meant to be an alternative to mining to speed up the game a bit
hollow shell
I think that you should probably separately post one of your two suggestions in that message
cuz there's two in there, 1. Make Cryo Slimes not spawn in normal underground, and 2. Make Cryo Slimes drop less ore
People could vote on them separately, agree on one and not the other
terse sundial
They're there to reduce grind
hollow shell
Not really what I meant
I meant copy/cut one of those suggestions out of that message and paste it into a new message
That way the ⭐ reaction appears for both of em
queen delta
Right now, it's hard for me to read because of the grammar, so I can revise it for you if you want
queen delta
Also, I'm pretty sure cryo slimes only spawn in cavern layers
If they spawn on the surface, that must not be intended
hollow shell
He's not talking about them spawning on the surface
he means that they can spawn anywhere underground, when it should only be in snow underground
queen delta
Ah, nvm I get it now
quick ice
The ore slimes do drop a lot of ore though
hollow shell
The same could possibly be said for Bloom Slimes, and that they should spawn only in the Underground Jungle
but technically Uelibloom isn't Jungle-exclusive cuz it spawns in all world mud, including the lil patches here and there
fervent zealot
well yes, that's a good thing
quick ice
It’d be interesting if you could make them more rare overall but make them significantly more common around large clusters of ore
hollow shell
That'd defeat the purpose a lil bit
They're supposed to help you when you don't have ore
quick ice
Or biome exclusive besides near their ore, such as Bloom/Perennial in jungle and by their respective ores and Cryolite in Ice biome/by Cryolite ore
queen delta
Make Cryo Slimes spawn only in underground snow biome.
Right now, they spawn anywhere underground, rather than just the underground snow biome, which doesn't really fit them well.
Nerf the amount of cryonic ores the Cryo Slime drops
Cryo Slimes drop a bit too much cryonic ores, deeming mining a bit redundant. Reducing the amount of ores it drops should make mining them more relevant.
quick ice
Yes, but people could use the ore they have and develop large farms from it to grind them in an AFK grinder or just running around where they placed the ore
open brook
Is good now?
fervent zealot
honestly them spawning around ore clumps would be a nice alternative that lets you kill for the ore instead of suffering through the underground
open brook
Thx
quick ice
Also if cryo slime needs a nerf in how much ore they drop, Aerialate needs it more
They take less ore to craft each bar but drop just as much ore
Actually I could make a lot of suggestions for slimes in this mod, but I’m pretty sure it would get turned down like last time
civic pond
its always better to discuss changes here first before posting
lost agate
When i made a farm for herbs i got like 10 every 5 minutes
open brook
xd
lost agate
just a matter of knowing when to pick them
magic verge
what about the ice one
lost agate
it blooms at night iirc
quick ice
It wasn’t turned down for being bad, but because the devs didn’t want to make slimes difficult/interesting since they’re only purpose is to reduce grind
lost agate
if you use a planter at least
magic verge
shiverthorns can take days
plus you regularly use potions in rev+, its practically mandatory
quick ice
Just make a huge planter and go afk for a few minutes
magic verge
and you are likely to do more than one try per boss
lost agate
then just make a rather big herb farm
queen sail
~~alchnpc lite ~~
lost agate
i never had issue with herbs personally
quick ice
5 times as fast is too much, and blood orbs exist (or whatever the blood moon potion ingredient is)
magic verge
you can say the same about fishing, "just fish for 10 minutes", but instead we got ultimate fishing accesory
i prefer the later improvement
lost agate
well you know
magic verge
also good luck restocking potions via blood orbs
queen sail
Tbf herb farming is automatic
magic verge
like, getting in mass
lost agate
5 times mpre herbs is actually very overkill
queen sail
Fishing is manual
lost agate
and yes that too
magic verge
and 400 fishing power is not overkill?
quick ice
You could make the suggestion to reduce the required blood-orbs
queen sail
You can wait for herbs but you have to fish yourself
magic verge
it just speeds up a boring mechanic of the game
queen sail
Unless you get luiafk
lost agate
no because fishing is still manual
fervent zealot
potion farming is pretty fine in calamity all things considered
you have blood orbs for a more manual method of grinding, and herbs grow plenty fast
lost agate
for herbs you let them grow, slap them every once in a while
quick ice
Reduce it from 10-5/4 might be good (might be wrong), or have it change based on if you’re at a bottle on a table or an alchemy station
magic verge
there is a reason calamity already gives you 20~ bags of herbs
magic verge
main planetoid
quick ice
Yeah, you get a ton from the Huge-Planetoid
lost agate
Well thats because planetoids are just a big ass QoL
quick ice
Speaking of Planetoids, were they ever meant to be something besides QoL structures?
lost agate
sometimes just go there if youre lazy
karmic stone
The only herb i see could use a change is Shiverthorn, otherwise the only materials that are a true pain to obtain are fishes
fervent zealot
so when do we get a calamity accessory that gives you multiple lines
lost agate
fishes always strained me
magic verge
if you got almost anyone w a potion vendor im sure you can do something to improve over that aspect of the game
lost agate
thats because people dont even wanna do a herb farm
smoky wagon
Herbs are annoying to constantly farm after awhile
fervent zealot
i get literally all of my potions from pots, chests, and crates
i have never farmed herbs and i have never not had enough of a given potion
magic verge
i chug potions like water and having to wait for them is the reason i use a potion vendor mod
karmic stone
Not trying to shove in personal experiences, but my decently sized herb plant has yielded me 400ish of each herb thus far (Except Shiverthorn)(Pre-Cal)) and that's enough for anything if you're conservative
karmic stone
Also make sure to always use the Staff of Regrowth
lost agate
just boosting how many plants per harvest you get is just flat lazy
magic verge
yeah, it is
lost agate
and likely to be op af if you get a proper farm
magic verge
op at what
lost agate
one day and you get 100 of each herb
magic verge
getting more potions doesnt mean getting op
lost agate
Oh is it now
karmic stone
What
magic verge
youll be performing the same with 120 potions than with one
karmic stone
magic verge
because most of them have some kind of wall behind them
lost agate
have you seen how much extra dmg a wrath, rage and archer potion can net you with a bow?
magic verge
you canT just get all the potions from the get go
also non herb potions would still be unnafected
lost agate
Almost every potion uses herbs
queen sail
Doesn’t almost every potion use a herb
karmic stone
non herb potions
Those exist?
queen sail
Rarely is there a potion that doesn’t require herbs
magic verge
im talking about calamity ones
queen sail
Like Astral Injection
magic verge
they still need item drops
lost agate
Well vanilla potions exist too
queen sail
...which lasts for 3 seconds
karmic stone
I mean, even endgame potions like the Elixir use something, in this case fireblossom
lost agate
and theyre nothing to shrug off to
karmic stone
And im p sure the only potions you dont need herbs for are not that meta
magic verge
non herb potions, like
queen sail
I’m gonna go search up every potion that doesn’t use herbs
magic verge
queen sail
Calamity and vanilla
lost agate
Bud
queen sail
Bruh
magic verge
also, the good ones from vanilla also need non herb materials
lost agate
zerg and zen need calming and battle potions
karmic stone
Elixir, like i just said
queen sail
Those that use vanilla potions don’t count
lost agate
hell half of these are upgrades of other options
queen sail
Because the vanilla ones need herbs
lost agate
yes
queen sail
And combi potions are the same thing
magic verge
you would have still need to farm for enemy drops whats your point
karmic stone
Combo pots are the ones that require the most herbs
queen sail
Enemies are different
magic verge
even if you have a massive farm youll still need that demonic bone ash
queen sail
You are talking about herbs
karmic stone
And how does your sugg relate to that?
lost agate
which you get in no time
magic verge
or essences or whatever
queen sail
No red herrings
lost agate
i wonder when people will understand that QoL things can be op
civic pond
valid point.
queen sail
Alchemist npc but every potion is 1 plat prehm, 5 plat hm, and 20 plat post ml
lost agate
Yes but QoL is also stuff like antisocial or luiafk
karmic stone
Hell, if you're gonna make 120 pots like you said, you may as well use LuiAfk for the unlimited buff items
queen sail
magic verge
my suggestion relates that i can get demonic bone ash in 10 seconds and 10 minutes to get a herb
fervent zealot
herbs are passive.
lost agate
Then wtf is your herb farm
karmic stone
10 minutes for 1 herb?
queen sail
In 10 seconds you can get 1 bone ash
karmic stone
The fuck kind of farm do you have
queen sail
In 10 minutes, with planter boxes and a staff of regrowth, you can get at least 20+ herbs
Like
lost agate
you can literally just run around the world and get some
fervent zealot
planter boxes don't boost growth
magic verge
i was talking about one blooming in 10 minutes, i can also zerg hell and get 100 ashes in 10 minutes
queen sail
The main planetoid even comes with a few planter boxes
lost agate
theyre pretty so shush
fervent zealot
what herb are you even talking about
lost agate
ah yes
karmic stone
The planters make it so you cant accidentally harvest them with things like swords
lost agate
the typical just zerg argument
karmic stone
All herbs apparently
fervent zealot
wtf
magic verge
its not an argument, it was a counterargument
fervent zealot
literally what in the name of hell is your herb farm if it's that bad
karmic stone
I'm still on it but only for Shiverthorn
queen delta
still an argument
karmic stone
A counterargument and an argument are the same what
hearty plaza
i hate shiverthorn. it always takes 10 years to grow for me
lost agate
im not gonna bother
queen sail
Basically here’s my thoughts
“Herbs take too long to grow in comparison to zerging enemy drops”
magic verge
that wasnt my point at all tho
fervent zealot
zerging is already a hyperaccelerated form of farming
magic verge
that the time wall clearly here is the herbs
lost agate
makes me glad zerg is being changed
magic verge
and yes, herbs are passive, so what, i dont want to wait for something necessary
queen sail
You have been talking about how long it takes for herbs to grow and that we should get more per yield
karmic stone
Make a pot that accelerates herb growth
lost agate
The point is why do you have to wait
queen sail
That’s literally the entire point of Terraria
lost agate
why didnt you get the herbs before hand
fervent zealot
why are you literally just sitting there waiting for herbs
do something else while they grow
magic verge
the point terraria makes is also wooden fishing rod
lost agate
what
karmic stone
What
hearty plaza
waht
lost agate
Fishing rod... ok im done
karmic stone
wooden
hueh
queen sail
At this point I feel like you’re cherrypicking miniscule points just to try and prove you have a position in the first place
lost agate
this is literally going nowhere