All ice golems have are the lasers
#suggestions-discussion
queen delta
teal ibex
i mean, when inaccuracy doesn't add anything to an enemy i'd argue that everything being accurate is ideal
queen delta
ok, laser replaced with death ray beam
hollow saffron
and i think lasers would be a bit more of a threat to people who are standing still if they were more accurate
teal ibex
at least with phasing lasers that are accurate it becomes a game of playing around the worldgen, that's infinitely more engaging than "stay far or rng"
queen delta
ML beam but on ice golem
hollow saffron
and i agree with hec
teal ibex
heck, i'd even take the stupid predictive aim like moonlord
queen delta
How about I make it accurate, but it has ML bolt targetting
hollow saffron
assuming that you farm ice golems in early hardmode, what is the chance that you decided to bring a rod of discord with you
hollow saffron
at the very least make it like a sub 20% attack or something
queen delta
They're supposed to be mini bosses not some regular enemy with high HP
void kelp
ice golem but they have an aura
hollow saffron
lul
give ice golems a frost aura that slows the player down, the less health it has the more it slows the player down
I also feel like mothron eggs should take less time to hatch
queen delta
Ice golems have death ray beam that goes 360*, spams lasers as fast as destroyer but random aim, shoots noclipping frost rockets at you that act the same as martian saucer's rockets, and it has an aura that wont let you escape
hollow shell
Don't give Terry ideas
hollow shell
not you Terry
queen delta
Maso ice golem is a joke so i wouldn't mind some of these changes
queen delta
Also mothron eggs are meant to be something that can be easily taken care of if you pay attention to it
But punishing if you leave it unattended
hollow saffron
making them hatch faster would mean you WOULD have to pay attention to them
ashen warren
they should be able to turn invisible
hollow saffron
okno
queen delta
I'd rather they become immune to any homing shots
ashen warren
hmm yes
queen delta
So they dont get wiped out by chloro bullets the moment they exist
hollow saffron
i'd rather they become immune to attacks for 3 seconds after hatching
ashen warren
and then make them hatch after 2.9 seconds
ashen warren
this is so good for ideas!
hollow shell
@eager ivy Could you fix the grammar a lil bit
separate the message a bit using commas or periods
sand umbra
See I'd like this idea a little more if the Pirate Invasion didn't have all of like 3 things actually worth farming for.
I do like it, though. Would make farming for those things less aggravating.
eager ivy
done
hollow shell
How to downvote a suggestion:
Don't star it
eager ivy
sorry about that
proven tide
this has been discussed before but the negative crowd mentality overload will shit on any remotely disagreeable suggestion
also yeah i think so
hollow shell
I don't think it's in Don'ts
ashen warren
suggestion: put that in don'ts
carmine stream
deleted it
hollow shell
It's fine, isn't suggested very often afaik
also RIP pirate map suggestion
I guess.
balmy coyote
The ❕ is kinda already used as a downvote from what I've seen
hollow shell
Yeah but it shouldn't
proven tide
Hey Rover, you keeping track of that?
eager ivy
you think it should still be a suggestion 
hollow shell
What
proven tide
the downvote abuse thingo we spoke about
carmine stream
Why I suggested using ❗ as a downvote
hollow shell
I don't know?
I don't think I've seen much of it
Did we
did we agree to keep an eye on suggestions and see if it's bad in the recent times
sand umbra
there really shouldn't be "downvote" options in the first place
and tbf
it's quite obvious suggs aren't automatically viewed by mods.
why is ❕ used to point that out?
or
wait, what the hell did ❕ mean again
hollow shell
bruh
sand umbra
Okay that is what it means, I'm not stupid.
Anywho, wouldn't it make more sense logically to have an emote that comes up to signify that a sugg has been seen by mods?
hollow shell
Eh
sand umbra
Just a random thought that came to me just now.
Dunno how justified it is. Probably an arbitrary change.
hollow shell
It'd be the same situation as now, not much change
sand umbra
¯_(ツ)_/¯
hollow shell
It wouldn't matter if extra people reacted with it, but I feel like the current system is more intuitive
rather than having like
two marks of approval
sand umbra
Fair enough.
zenith hazel
it would sound somewhat condescending too imo
devout lava
Zerg + ocean mate
@eager ivy
@fathom cedar
Yeah but what will she do?
And how would she look like?
Theres alot of context and ideas you have to add in aswell
fathom cedar
ik but ut is just a thought
zenith hazel
scal npc will be a thing in the future iirc
devout lava
You killed the hardest boss in calamity
And it becomes your freindly neighbourhood trades person
zenith hazel
fathom cedar
see?
distant gyro
yea, if it's confirmed that a calamitas npc will exist then why a suggestion for it
🤔
devout lava
Then delete the suggestion @fathom cedar
zenith hazel
of course it was 2 messages 
next time if you make a suggestion, do try to keep it in 1 message instead of separating it into multiple
signal prairie
What would she even do? Be there for fancy reasons?
distant gyro
^ you can use shift + enter/return key to make a new line and you can also edit messages
signal prairie
Unless she'd sell her drops if we're going off that screenshot of not killing her
distant gyro
assuming she'll feed you lore and fight stuffs, that's given
devout lava
Then that would make refighting the boss have no reason
queen sail
Isn’t trying to predict what scal npc would do like trying to predict what draedon would do
distant gyro
basically
queen sail
We have no basis to go off of except WoGs
devout lava
Maybe shell be on your side, to fight the true boss Yharim
Maybe selling you the summoner or other items to aid u
signal prairie
we are getting off topic
zenith hazel
are we even discussing about a suggestion anymore when it's been deleted?
devout lava
H skhbs,s
fathom cedar
jeez
zenith hazel
why?
fathom cedar
you all are talking aobout something that I removed still
devout lava
More variety to the goblin anvasion
I like it, but, honestly nobody would care
fathom cedar
I would
zenith hazel
again, why?
devout lava
And Minecraft already stole the travelling merchant we dont wanna take another aspect
signal prairie
lol
fathom cedar
k
devout lava
Delete that one too
hollow shell
pf
fathom cedar
WHY
hollow shell
No need
fathom cedar
it is a good idea
hollow shell
but you should provide a reason in the suggestion
signal prairie
^
fathom cedar
to increase difficulty
zenith hazel
and that would be beneficial because...
hollow shell
Edit the suggestion with some more reason elaboration
and also
fix up some of the grammar
signal prairie
Maybe to give summoners something better than the ice claspers
cyan lagoon
Also to respond to the comment brav posted, that was two years ago. Its significantly less believable since a shitton of things could have changed since then
So who knows?
zenith hazel
well yeah, old things are prone to change
signal prairie
It would be cool to see an Scal npc tho ngl
devout lava
Another thing i was going to add to my suggestion was make the void furniture abit more unique
I come to think of it as looking similar to granite furniture
But im not gonna add it, wish the furniture looked abit more reference to the abyss
zenith hazel
hence why I'm not entirely sure on what I said tbh
hollow shell
variety is still misspelled
signal prairie
devout lava
grammer looks worse
fathom cedar
hollow shell
but
thank you for expanding
fathom cedar
devout lava
@hollow shell
Also does Calamity own the calamities vanities mod
devout lava
Dang
I wanted them to change how you get the strangle bubble that summons the siren pet
For an item you get from fishing it is very hard to get
hollow shell
Vanities discord has a suggestions channel too
devout lava
my god calamity has a server for everything
hollow shell
fathom cedar
Is DM a member of Calamity Mod or is he a third party?
(DM is DMDoruku)
he has done the music
so is he
queen sail
Why are you asking
fathom cedar
idk just a thought
hollow shell
He is indeed on the dev team
queen sail
He’s on two month hiatus
fathom cedar
oh k thx
hollow shell
as the lead musician
zenith hazel
keep the discussion to suggestions please
fathom cedar
ok
hollow shell
Yeah
fathom cedar
ight Imma head out
signal prairie
Time to do more Suggestion organization
placid moth
Yeah, First Shadowflame is utter ass.
fathom cedar
very true
zenith hazel
inb4 exo gun
ashen warren
a good gun for supreme calamitas because currently there are no guns that have sufficient dps on her. The only 2 good weapons for ranger are a bow (heavenly gate) and a flamethrower (photoviscerator).
distant gyro
the flamethrower is a gun
distant gyro
iirc it does sniper scope thing
🤔
Dragon's Breath is actually serious underwhelming
ashen warren
yes
distant gyro
Onyxia is good but the two exo-weps are better
distant gyro
Onyxia is actually a tier above DB wha
hollow shell
Oh you right
distant gyro
Darksun > Direct Yharon drops (Phase 1)
ashen warren
thanks
hollow shell
You could also mention the bad guns prior
distant gyro
Although there are actually 4 "viable" weapons for scal ranger though, not 2
zenith hazel
chicken is actually good for hearts iirc
distant gyro
Drat - High IQ nohit
Gale - lags
Photo - general bro dps
Chicken - Heart & Seeker
ashen warren
yeah
distant gyro
Chicken actually instakills hearts and seeker with the right setup and rage/adrenaline
civic rampart
tired haven
Neither of these is a gun anyway, but the suggestion is so overdone at this point
hollow shell
Exo-gun is the one in the don'ts
Which he isn't explicitly suggesting
He wants just, a pre-SCal gun which is viable for her
distant gyro
Also aren't guns actually broader than just bullet guns?
I mean yea you could specify "bullet guns"
hollow shell
I don't think so, Altix
When you say "gun" I think almost everybody will get you mean the bullet gun
queen delta
Exo gun
zenith hazel
it’s a grey area imo, flamethrowers do somewhat qualify
hollow shell
@ashen warren You gonna edit your suggestion?
distant gyro
Flamethrowers and Launchers are "guns", just not the first thing off the top of people's heads
karmic stone
So since even in the hypothetical situation this sugg gets greenlighted and an Exo-gun or something gets added, it's gonna take some time, i'm just gonna mention that Dimensions already adds an Exo-gun
hollow shell
And Calamity's shroomite helmet makes it clear that flamethrowers are distinct as well
distant gyro
since there's only 1 flamethrower in vanilla terraria, it's automatically classified as gun though?
hollow shell
tf is Dimensions
distant gyro
dimensions is seraph's thing
hollow shell
tf is Seraph
distant gyro
I think
distant gyro
@ SΞRΛPH#8611
zenith hazel
calamity expansions guy
karmic stone
It's like a DLC
(With Fab's permission, ofc)
hollow shell
ok
karmic stone
Maybe ping him whenever he's online, thing is, maybe victorius should just download Dimensions and be done with it
hollow shell
That's not what I meant, Victor
You sent something earlier which would be good to replace your suggestion with
ashen warren
k
hollow shell
ashen warren
lets stop this discussion then
karmic stone
void kelp
@fathom cedar its “variety”, not “verity”.
lost agate
I thought onyxia was good
Ah wait for scal
Current dragon breath is definitely not good on scal, next update it may be somewhat ok
tired haven
if it would be ok on scal, won't it melt the everliving hell out of yharon p2?
lost agate
Uuuuh true
But like i mean, dragon breath technically has more range thats what i meant
hollow shell
@ornate comet You cant repost your own suggestion if it already got delivered
ornate comet
opal barn
Stay on topic in this channel 🙃
fervent zealot
@leaden zinc that seems more like it should go into a bug report honestly
leaden zinc
got told to put it here, but sure
fervent zealot
that's what i'm saying, it seems more like it's a bug than something you should have to suggest to remove
karmic stone
It's already been pointed out and i'm pretty sure a dev said it's getting patched next update
Remember, not everything is published in #changelogs
gusty geode
Why would summons be temporary anyway
Unless they're like
Really busted ones There's an idea actually, particularly strong minions that can only be out for so long at a time
karmic stone
It was never even temporary, the tooltip is just :ech:
hollow shell
Where are you seeing that, @leaden zinc?
The weapon's tooltip or the buff icon's tooltip?
Ah, I assume the weapon's because I think I just found the cause in its file.
leaden zinc
Yup, ty !
fervent zealot
should probably delete the suggestion now i'd think
mighty mica
Reasons 1 and 5 just being "memes lol" is not really that great.
fervent zealot
also hyper mode already exists it's a mod look it up thanks
void kelp
hypermode— oh you sniped me
hollow shell
@candid dawn No meme suggestions
opal barn
I blame this suggestion on you crab 
hollow shell
If you seriously want to suggest something like this, be serious about it
but that there won't cut it
mighty mica
Y'know what, forget reasons 1 and 5, after reading again every single reason is not really that serious and descriptive
ashen warren
i dont think jackal understands the gravity of triple speed
swift bison
1.5 times speed is already
void kelp
isn’t hypermode only x2?
ashen warren
maso ex but still
candid dawn
Ahh, sorry about that. Thanks for the tip. I'll pull it down.
hollow shell
Thank you
young fog
"memery"
candid dawn
Well then.... seems like my idea was already thought of. Aww well. Guess I need to think of something else.
mighty mica
You don't have to have multiple reasons in your suggestions just for the sake of quantity. As long as its well thought out and descriptive it'll be good. No need for "memes" then just "more memes".
candid dawn
makes sense. i was just trying to figure out a way to give the nohitters a bigger challenge. no big deal.
and the "memery" was for the sake of DF, cause he's a meme enough already.
queen delta
Duke fishron more like 
easy this includes p3
fervent zealot
duke fishron is a pre mech boss easy
smoky wagon
p3 without map next update 
civic pond
ohno
bright mountain
premech is super easy
queen delta
you dont need map when you can see his glowing eyes and know exactly how his teleporting works
bright mountain
wats p3
queen delta
phase 3
bright mountain
ah
proven tide
well, fuck mp then.
hollow saffron
isnt the ravager from 1.12
sand umbra
~~No, it's a part of Illager invasions.
Not exactly the place to be asking, but them's the facts.~~
fervent zealot
completely off topic and no
hollow saffron
@fervent zealot it was related to one of the suggestions
fervent zealot
well yes but actually why bring it up here instead of just pinging them in say, gentalk
half basalt
Guess no one will talk about the new suggestion
sand umbra
I deadass just posted it
a
proven tide
is this a specific item
fervent zealot
trinket of chi is a meme yes but it's a meme that supports a specific playstyle
said playstyle being " i am not at my computer and i would like to play the game"
half basalt
What playstyle?
The playstyle of "I'm gonna sit here and die because calamity bosses hit HARD"?
sand umbra
half basalt
🍥
topaz dirge
Or make it work from your inventory
sand umbra
No. That makes no sense.
Its effect is still worthless regardless of where it works from.
half basalt
That doesnt change how useless it is lol
hollow shell
This sounds like specific item suggestion territory
but because it's not a new item and a rework to an existing item, I guess it's valid
topaz dirge
No, but if you get the rare moment where you can sit, you don't have to waste an accessory slot to exploit it
hollow shell
I'd still prefer if the exact numbers were removed
or at least some of em
kinda hard to make "+1" less specific
topaz dirge
Like wait before you summon a boss, then summon it and shoot it with hydra in rage mode
sand umbra
yeah that was the thing i was like
"how do make less specifics 
"
proven tide
where one must always stay on the move and on the attack, its effect becomes virtually pointless.
welcome to
rogue
stealth
time for
civic pond
Rogue stealth gets changed in the expansion or something
proven tide
scarlet bhi
civic pond
ech
topaz dirge
Its great for PvP tho
hollow shell
Thanks Thomas
hollow turret
pvp in calsmity is no
sand umbra
( o3o)b
civic pond
"pvp"
half basalt
I tried having a pvp fight in calamity.
It didnt end well.
hollow turret
its just whoever can snipe better
proven tide
pvp as summoner meme
just drop fargo super dummies on them (they work in mp) and your summon will keep going for their ass
ashen warren
and now we usher in the new age of sugmas
the age of specific item suggestion but not because its a rework of an existing item
hollow shell
A better age
Making current content more interesting is better than bloating the mod
ashen warren
yeah trinket is okay
elfin maple
why are all bosses immune to debuffs
fervent zealot
because otherwise the game would be too easy
elfin maple
wut
zealous ridge
all bosses are immune to some debuffs, but not others? what do you mean by this question?
hollow shell
Not all debuffs
zealous ridge
they arent immune to ALL of them
tired haven
That's really cranked up statement
Most calamity bosses are vulnerable to most debuffs
elfin maple
i think they're immune to debuffs from other mods which is reasonable
elfin maple
yeah
zealous ridge
DoG is immune to all debuffs besides... enraged? i think?
elfin maple
idk
tired haven
Wiki to the rescue on that tbh
elfin maple
ye
i guess if you have some mod that disables debuff immunities then this isn't a problem but i like debuffs
queen delta
Tbh DoG no longer immune to glacial state when
zealous ridge
but yeah, for all intents and purposes hes immune to everything but otherwise bosses have set immunites
elfin maple
mh
ye
i'll bet i'm not the first one to remove debuff immunities
it makes sense that they would block debuffs from outside calamity and vanilla to prevent cheating
i've tested a bit and it seems like it does that
not too extensively tho so don't take my word for it
hollow shell
Why exclude Astral?
vocal grotto
Because it already has a unique attack of its own
hollow shell
iirc nope
vocal grotto
Wait
hollow shell
They used to shoot lasers but not anymore
foggy kindle
hollow shell
nice
foggy kindle
Dominic needs sleep I see
vocal grotto
My IQ is extra high today
hollow shell
I approve of the suggestion regardless
Lets make those round idiots not just farmbait and actually do something
hollow idol
well aero slime is like the second earliest slime and it has free movement so im not sure if it would be changed
hollow shell
Aero Slime is fine yeah
vocal grotto
Yeah
queen sail
Aren’t the slimes meant to be ore farms in case you somehow used up all the generated ore
vocal grotto
I think so
But that's not a great excuse for them to be near, if not complete copypastas of each other
imo, at least
hollow idol
Except its much easier to mass kill ore slimes than to take the effort to mine
queen sail
Auric Slime memes
strong prism
that sounds beautiful
sand umbra
That's really cranked up statement
Most calamity bosses are vulnerable to most debuffs
Only somewhere at postML they start being invincible
Like DoG and such
I'm late, but
most later-game Calamity bosses, mainly those post-Plantera and from LC onward especially, are only vulnerable to debuffs you aren't actually able to inflict (or at least, not commonly) when fighting them in normal progression --- this gives the illusion that they're invulnerable to all debuffs, more than likely, which while outright false is certainly the impression someone that doesn't spend all their time reading the wiki will get.
sand umbra
Something something, Cursed Inferno, blah blah blah...
hollow shell
Its not useless if it still has a (very very small) effect 
vocal grotto
queen sail
Ichor memes
sand umbra
*it's not useless if it's Ichor
queen sail
sand umbra
queen sail
Ichor
More like
Definitive proof that vanilla balance is nonexistent
hollow shell
Polar opposites
sand umbra
Betsy's Curse is a meme.
queen sail
Isn’t betsy’s curse just betsy exclusive ichor
void kelp
Betsy’s Curse exists I guess
queen sail
hollow shell
The debuff that's better than Ichor, and the debuff that everything and their dog is immune to
queen delta
Cryonic slimes teleport and slam on you, smack you around, becomes invincible at half health and summons a mini bullet hell for 20 seconds
Perennial slimes emit spores, spawns tons of moss hornets, and shoots petals at you which goes thru walls
Bloom slimes leave a trail of holy flames, spawns a profaned guardian every 10% health lost, and teleports
Astral slimes can fly, spam bouncy lasers at you, shoot astrum deus, and regens all of its health at 10% and enters phase 2 which has increased fire rate and speed
hollow shell
Is this Maso
queen sail
Yat uhhh
hollow shell
again...
fervent zealot
this is no masomeme
queen sail
Just like how terry became fargo ALTER you are becoming terry ALTER
civic pond
Masogarasu
vocal grotto
Being serious, lemme write down a couple ideas myself for what they could do
ashen warren
i read shoot astrum deus mines as shoot astrum deus
queen delta
good idea
hollow idol
^
hollow shell
Every time it shoots, all 11 worms come out
fervent zealot
so when do we get the small worms as common astral enemies anyways
queen delta
hollow shell
yesterday.
sand umbra
I have a few ideas as to what ore slimes could do.
hollow shell
Shit actually that should happen Post-Cultist
fervent zealot
hollow shell
and you have to kill them instead of Atlases
sand umbra
fervent zealot
that actually makes a fuckton more sense
sand umbra
dude yes
queen sail
Just make mini deus spawn in the astral post LC and have them become actual ADs post deus/rev+
hollow shell
That makes
so much more sense
sand umbra
this can be part of the inevitable Astrum Deus Rework #...3?
hollow shell
god
queen sail
Way more obv than the atlases
hollow saffron
hi can we have mini cosmilite worms spawn underground(mini DOGs or nerfed CGs) post DoG
hollow shell
Old Armored Digger ngltbh
hollow saffron
And yes t agree kirby
sand umbra
I don't know how much AD has been reworked in the past but it needs an actual rework. Something to make it so you can't target all 10 small worms at once and end the fight in a minute--
fervent zealot
the boss needs a redesign honestly the worms are kinda dum
queen sail
Their remedy was the vulnerability switching
sand umbra
Because only 1-2 worms exist at a time.
hollow saffron
Only 1 or 2
sand umbra
That's what I can see happening.
hollow saffron
Can I suggest that
civic pond
Honestly
sand umbra
No get outta here this is my potential Deuces rework sugg.
civic pond
I remember someone saying about having the worms spawn in waves instead of all at once
sand umbra
That's what I was thinking just now.
hollow shell
Perforators ripoff
civic pond
ripoff my ass
sand umbra
fervent zealot
worms spawn in waves but can spawn even if there are already worms out tbh
queen sail
@hollow shell by default it already is a ripoff
civic pond
im willing to have anything to save my frames
queen sail
Worm boss memes
civic pond
queen sail
hollow saffron
can we rework signus
sand umbra
no
fervent zealot
like have it be like the sentinels are in doggo fight
hollow shell
He already got boomerangs
vocal grotto
Incoming semi-wall of text
civic pond
fear
sand umbra
yes
vocal grotto
Blight Slimes: Occasionally shoot their respective little slowdown orbs the slime gods use. (Probably with less timeLeft tho)
Astral Slime: Should astral lasers vertically, similarly to their old design. Maybe a burst of 5 after Deus since they hold the astral ore now.
Charred Slime: Releases a burst of small brimstone fire occasionally
Cryo Slime: Shoot purple crystals at the player when very near or far
Perennial Slime: Release spores when the player is above
Pestilent Slime: Release the plague when near death
Bloom Slime: A small life energy burst towards the player. Goes through tiles.
hollow saffron
thanks for the warning
hollow saffron
there are blight slimes?
hollow shell
Blighted Gel lads
queen delta
Why do they not have death ray beams
fervent zealot
ebonian/crimulean blight slimes
fervent zealot
the chunkers who body you while you try and cross evil biomes phm
hollow saffron
lol
queen sail
Yat you’ve been playing maso too much recently
hollow saffron
Arent there like chaos slimes or something
vocal grotto
Wait, nvm
hollow shell
Pestilent has an attack actually
fervent zealot
you mean chaos pufferfish?
vocal grotto
Oh, really?
hollow saffron
nvm they were
queen sail
Devil Fish and Puffers exist now
fervent zealot
chaos slimes died a painless death
hollow shell
Shoots rockets upward if you fly above em
vocal grotto
Ah
hollow shell
or darts
whatever
fervent zealot
well ACTUALLY they're spikes
like spiked jungle slime spikes but evil and plaguely
hollow saffron
weekly reminder to make the ataxia set be available post-PBG/ravager
vocal grotto
Meh. Plague things faic
hollow shell
You better have a good reason
sand umbra
i can tell you that ^
fervent zealot
isn't ataxia already post ravager though
sand umbra
no
vocal grotto
Golem iirc
sand umbra
it's post-Golem lel
hollow saffron
Make Ataxia ore only be mineable post-Ravager/PBG
Reason: The current spacing and balancing between the previous Calamity set(Reaver) and the Ataxia one is really bad. Currently, Reaver armor is only useful for one boss: Siren/Levi. After defeating them, the next boss is Golem and then Ataxia can carry you until the post-ML phase. Moving Ataxia up a boss or two would allow the Reaver set to actually have some usefulness.
hollow shell
Sounds good
however
locking ore behind a boss rather than pickaxe power is a bit unintuitive
sand umbra
Aerialite momentum
hollow saffron
perfs/hive
void kelp
astral ore
hollow saffron
plantera
hollow shell
Lemme finish
hollow shell
We'll need a new status message to indicate that Chaotic Ore is unlocked
and I feel
that Ravager would be more fitting for unlocking a chaotic abyss ore than PBG
thematically
hollow saffron
Yeah
fervent zealot
yeah it would
hollow saffron
My original sugg was Ravager
However I feel like allowing reaver to be used for another boss would make it feel a bit more useful
hollow shell
Question is
how are Ravager's Chaotic Bar drops going to work
fervent zealot
tbh?
hollow saffron
So its available either way
fervent zealot
completely gut ravager dropping normal stuff until its post provi state
hollow shell
I can get behind that, szavak
fervent zealot
cause literally it makes grinding for bars of life a joke
hollow shell
You're only dropless for like 2 bosses
fervent zealot
well no shit
hollow saffron
lul
fervent zealot
no point in a boss if it drops literally nothing
actually lemme just whip up that into a suggestion real fast here
sand umbra
ngl I
prefer the idea of Chaotic Ore just requiring a Picksaw or better.
also doesn't this fall under removing non-linearity hueh
fervent zealot
not really since the ore is already gated behind golem
sand umbra
lunar pickaxe momentum
zenith hazel
I’m all up for bloom slimes shooting provi’s spears ngl
fervent zealot
good luck doing cultist and ml with pre golem gear
hollow saffron
Alternatively, lock Chaotic ore behind Ravager AND make it only drop bars/cores post - Provi. <insert reason here>
sand umbra
gl
Cultist
actually somewhat on-tier gear
h u e h
hollow saffron
idk a reason
zenith hazel
reaver is also used to kill aureus though
sand umbra
You clearly haven't fought current LC before.
LC, because of his low health, is a joke with anything close to on-tier.
zenith hazel
also for dungeon exploration, to an extent
fervent zealot
ravager completely negates the need to actually mine reaver, chaos and cryonic ores
fervent zealot
i literally don't even go to the fucking abyss because i can just bully ravager to death instead
hollow saffron
also yeah i did forget aureus
zenith hazel
then aureus should be in there
hollow saffron
done
sand umbra
@fervent zealot
Cryonic Slimes, Perennial Slimes, and Chaotic Puffers + Devil Fish also negate the need to actually mine their respective ores.
I fail to see your point.
hollow saffron
bruh
fervent zealot
well yeah but you have to farm in three different places to get the ores with the slimes
fervent zealot
ravager lets you just stand at your base like a fatass
odd orchid
LC's movement is pretty predictable and his attacks are easy enough to dodge. and if you're smart about the summon-circle attack, you'll know how to get the correct dude-
hollow saffron
give LC random attack order when
karmic stone
Don't you need to mine in three different places anyways 
sand umbra
.
i'm just gonna go back to writing up my Deuces rework sugg -3-
hollow saffron
also can we make perennial ore not spawn in the ice biome
fervent zealot
literally ravager lets you circumvent the entire process of mining the ores for bars of life
hollow saffron
it doesnt fit
karmic stone
Question, if Ataxia were to be moved later in progression, would Reaver be buffed?
zenith hazel
I don’t see a reason why tbh
fervent zealot
probably not because it's good, just not used because ataxia is very soon to get after it
zenith hazel
if it does get buffed, would siren/levi and aureus be buffed alongside it?
hollow saffron
negates the entire point of a buff
quick and friendly reminder to mods on suggs that need to be starred
thats all i found
civic pond
shut
vocal grotto
Asked the other mods about the emote sugg
civic pond
annnd
fervent zealot
drumroll
vocal grotto
Still awaiting responses
vocal grotto
Not much I can do with the others tho. I'm not a dev
To be fair tho, I'd prefer an automated system of sorts instead
quiet abyss
On mobile so can’t deliver rn
vocal grotto
And after X amount of time, a response would be sent back to the sugg. Determined by maybe a voting system of sorts.
sand umbra
alright
Deuces rework sugg is typed up
mind if I post it here first so y'all can look at it and make sure it's good
civic pond
well of course
sand umbra
alright.
/clears throat
Wall of Text has awoken!
Astrum Deus rework suggestion. Because it seriously needs one...again.
The main worm is ethereal and has the ability to fly, is present all throughout the fight, and occasionally fires astral lasers at the player.
The fight consists of five "waves" of small worms, with each wave utilizing a different gimmick. After each "wave", players are able to damage Astrum Deus (the main worm) for 20% of its health.
Wave 1:
Three small, fast worms will spawn with no real special gimmicks to them --- they'll simply attempt to ram the player and occasionally fire lasers alongside the main worm.
Once this wave is defeated, the main worm gains the ability to fire lasers slightly more frequently.
Wave 2:
Two longer, somewhat slower worms spawn that will occasionally barf astral fireballs at the player. These fireballs inflict Astral Infection and deal high damage, but do not home and move slow enough to be consistently dodged if you don't double back.
Once this wave is defeated, the main worm gains the same ability and performs it on occasion instead of firing astral lasers.
Wave 3:
A worm will spawn that has the ability to fly no matter its distance from the player. This worm alternates between sudden rams in the player's direction and shooting a shotgun blast of astral lasers.
Once this worm is defeated, the main worm gains the ability to speed up slightly while the player is high above the ground.
Wave 4:
Two worms will spawn that can occasionally barf out a short-range spray of mines in front of themselves. These mines will explode after...let's say 15-20 seconds, and inflict Astral Infection on contact or on hit from explosion.
Once this wave is defeated, the main worm gains the ability to perform the same attack. The range increases slightly after wave 5.
Wave 5:
A worm with several probes around it and a worm with astral breath will spawn simultaneously. Both will intently follow the player, with the astral breath reaching fairly far out of its worm's mouth and the probes occasionally firing smaller, lower-damage and lower-velocity lasers at the player.
Once wave 5 is defeated, the main worm gains a few of the probes around itself and another small speed boost overall, and can be defeated at long last. Its attacks will speed up slightly as its health dwindles to none, but eventually you'll have won the fight and unlocked Astral Ore.
All worms have moderate pierce resist, but given their high defense they shouldn't need too much.
IF gravity is reversed for any reason during the fight, the main worm immediately gains all of its abilities and all of the worms spawn at once. (Alternatively, the main worm just gets a sizable speed boost.)
❔
Astrum Deus is not exactly a fun fight, nor is it really fair to have it where the only way to end the fight in less than 10 minutes is to bring an infinitely-piercing option to the encounter. This rework aims to not only reduce the overall wonkiness of the current fight, allowing the player to focus one or two gimmicks at a time, but also to severely reduce the immense lag many lower-end computers often experience as a result of this fight. Is this a boss suggestion? Probably, but I can't really say there's any other informative way to explain this. Take it how you will, but the fight seriously needs to be adjusted to be more fair and skill-oriented rather than only a test of how beefy your PC and piercing weapon are --- I believe this rework will solve many of the issues with the current fight and thus make it much more enjoyable for me and countless others.
Wall of Text has been defeated!
civic pond
well
sand umbra
please read through it, i put a lot of thought into it
inb4 classed as boss sugg and not allowed lel
vocal grotto
Sounds like an interesting idea. I might try to program it regardless of if it becomes a thing or not. I really like the ideas in it
civic pond
I read it.
hollow shell
I look at that suggestion
and I think
"No."
civic pond
I really like the idea of the different gimmicks of each worm
sand umbra
a
hollow shell
Way too specific and too expansive to ever have a hope of getting implemented
civic pond
and honestly same
sand umbra
damnit
hollow shell
Throw it in the doc
sand umbra
you know it
vocal grotto
On the topic of Deus
What about given them the same hit sound as Aureus instead of the metal clink?
queen sail
Switch it around tbh
hollow shell
Ah yes 11 aureus roars simultaneously
civic pond
no
hollow shell
Aureus is a big beefy fuck, it makes sense for him to have big beefy shout
sand umbra
is this astrum bruhs 2: aureus boogaloo
hollow shell
not a can of lil thin worms
civic pond
heh
sand umbra
a
queen sail
Like
sand umbra
Deus worms but every hit makes the Aureus hit sound effect
queen sail
You’d expect him to have some kind of metallic hit sound
sand umbra
the resulting earrape puts Eidolic Wail to shame
queen sail
Instead of BRUGSHDHFIRIFHFJFDK
hollow saffron
nothing like a text wall to brighten up your day
civic pond
bruh sounf effect 2 mod here
queen sail
Also how are 11 tiny worms competing to be the star god metallic
Dog has metal hit sounds but that’s because he has plating
Same for weaver until p2
rugged mist
did somebody say bruh sound effect 2 mod
sand umbra
lost agate
Uuuuh
Post ravager it would be almost instantly before astral armor
Also mind you, theres far more exploring post plant than post golem, so you use reaver just as much
So i dont really see where the problem is
The spacing is far from very bad
Its not like it is like old baleful harvester and horseman blade
sand umbra
or old Galactits Blade and Star Wrath
karmic stone
Not taking into account bosses, you have to do alot of farming for the recently-unlocked stuff
Thus, Reaver, with is crowd-control gimmicks, i don't find any problem with it
sand umbra
I never understood why, when people think of progression suggestions, boss progression is the only kind that matters
lost agate
Smh
sand umbra
when like. There's literally a shitload of stuff unlocked by Plantera in particular.
karmic stone
Notice how every single Reaver set bonus is made for crowd control, and it's accesible right before buffed dungeon
sand umbra
^
Reaver is designed for crowd control, which is an outright necessity in the newly-buffed Dungeon as everything there can and will kick your shit in.
frosty kindle
lost agate
Meanwhile ataxia is more combat oriented since thats what youre gonna do post golem most of the time, fight bosses
ashen warren
Why daedalus when you can halibut
hollow saffron
@lost agate imean like ataxia CAN carry you to post-ML
karmic stone
Btw, what's Astral for?
hollow saffron
all-class armor
karmic stone
Not what I meant, but ok
hollow saffron
depends
zenith hazel
astral is good for certain classes
hollow saffron
^
lost agate
People with p90
karmic stone
Some people say Astral is good for spelunking, because of the Omniscience effect
Which gives me the idea, maybe give the set a mining speed bonus higher than gold armor, it also fits the armor thematically because it comes from a gluttonous worm
hollow saffron
*sad non-ranger noises*
zenith hazel
astral has good offensive stats too
hollow shell
I've had a few ideas for turning Astral into a really good utility armor (or having an alt helmet/chestplate for combat or utility)
but
they're way too hard to code
hollow saffron
rip
lost agate
Theres a armor set post cultist, if you decide to ignore it and say ataxia is used for too long then damn
hollow shell
so :(
hollow saffron
also does the reaver rocket ignore iframes
lost agate
It doesnt even pierce
lost agate
No
hollow saffron
ok
Make only the Reaver Helm show the tooltip relating to Reaver Rage.
Reason: It's incredibly misleading to say that all helmets give it when according to the wiki, only the Helm does.
proof:
lost agate
Did you actually test this ingame?
hollow shell
I can source check it rn
hollow saffron
i wanted to confirm before making an erroneous statement
hollow shell
Wiki's outdated, it's only on the helm.
radiant meadow
fuck I forgot to remove that note
hollow shell
I'm fixin it
radiant meadow
the set bonus tooltips should be updated iirc
hollow shell
The bit about rage was not
radiant meadow
okay then I just completely forgot
ashen warren
now this is actually an interesting idea
zenith hazel
asphalt platforms exist in another mod iirc
polar dock
ye but what if people want to do a calamity only playthrough?
polar dock
well i guess they could not make you go as fast as normal blocks but like a 35% speed boost
proven tide
is that a phucking self-star
queen delta
Can you stop obsessing with self stars?
hollow saffron
ew self stars
queen delta
I see you say that literally every time someone self stars
hollow saffron
petition to make self starring illegal
zenith hazel
doesn’t DoG chop your speed by a lot?
polar dock
People dont like using afk cause of how OP it is
hollow shell
petition to make mentioning self starring illegal
hollow saffron
dont use the op items then
zenith hazel
nothing wrong with self stars, stop trying to make it illegal
hollow saffron
ok sors
queen delta
Mentioning self stars should be instant ban
proven tide
ain't tryna make it illegal i'm only asking/commenting
radiant meadow
don't say it at all
zenith hazel
still condescending for something perfectly normal nonetheless
radiant meadow
it contributes nothing to the conversation
queen delta
Also asphalts are already pretty broken
proven tide
does it change the situation if termi has witnessed me do it after his announcement and made an ironic struckthrough comment and nothing else
queen delta
Asphalt platforms would be extremely OP
proven tide
also yeah, asphalt lets you meme doggo and half the br bosses
queen delta
Better to just not say it at all
I still got a condescending tone from that "sarcastic" message
hollow saffron
ok yatagarasu from geometr dash
karmic stone
1)Asphalt is broken
2)If you think that the other Luiafk content is OP, then don't use those things, only use the Asphaltforms
hollow saffron
IKR
polar dock
if you do multiplayer playthroughs alot of the time they wont listen
hollow saffron
bruh
proven tide
that is not the mod's problem
unique vector
hello whats the issue
polar dock
ik but i feel that calamity should have something thats less Op but still makes certain bosses a little easier
zenith hazel
what?
hollow saffron
phantasmal fury
queen delta
unique vector
can someone please explain whats happening rn i dont really have the energy or time to read the convo
lets just please get this sorted with
hollow saffron
basically the last suggestion
zenith hazel
asphalt platforms in calamity, balanced or not?
hollow saffron
not
unique vector
i disagree with adding them simply because luiafk has it
zenith hazel
mainly for people who wanna play with only calamity
unique vector
thats really it
hollow saffron
^
queen delta
Asphalt platforms are quite op
karmic stone
Xman wants platforms on Clam without ussing Luiafk because their friends won't listem to them
on not using the other stuff
unique vector
sure ig you can suggest for calamity to add custom effects to its custom platforms
queen delta
That would change nothing lmao
hollow saffron
imagine playing only one mod at a time 
unique vector
but straight up asking for an asphalt platform is a no go for me
polar dock
k
queen delta
If you don't wanna use asphalt platforms from luiafk, and complain that your friends use it, what would the difference be if it was from calamity?
radiant meadow
custom platform effects would actually be kinda nifty
hollow saffron
everything is nifty until you start coding
radiant meadow
if player standing on platform, boost mvt speed by 35%. Shouldn't be too hard
zenith hazel
still busted for something like mechs ngl
sand umbra
keyword: shouldn't
unique vector
if player standing on plague platform boost bee damage by 5%
queen delta
Doesn't movement speed have no effect on Angel Treads+?
odd orchid
obsidian platforms being the only plats that don't get broke by lava
sand umbra
also movement speed doesn't do anything for most boots past the normal boost lel
queen delta
I know when I equipped omega blue leggings (+20% movement speed), seraph tracers speed stayed exactly the same
hollow saffron
movement acceleration is trash lUL
sand umbra
Acceleration is like meaningless though lel
karmic stone
Acceleration is the time needed to reach peak speed right?
(In terraria)
radiant meadow
then we could boost your max movement speed like auric leggings
karmic stone
Does peak speed have a cap?
hollow saffron
someone get sors in here to see the compatibility
queen delta
How about movement speed boosts your max speed?
karmic stone
Royal Treads from SoA go faster than Celestial Tracers, but it's still at a level thats easily controlable
queen delta
There shouldn't be balancing issues because if it ends up being too fast, just tone down the max speed
hollow saffron
aren't bosses like dog and yharon coded to have a max speed proportional to your speed
void kelp
yep, they accelerate to meet you
ashen warren
mach 28 chicken incoming
queen delta
Yeah, and DoG lowers your max speed when in purple phase
karmic stone
Ah, i see the problem
hollow saffron
lul sequence
queen delta
So I don't really see an issue with "outrunning bosses"
sand umbra
DoG already cucks your movement speed to oblivion so any argument for "but too fast!!!" against him is
zenith hazel
honestly you shouldn’t be trying to outspeed DoG in the first place
radiant meadow
there's a reason alicorn is post doggo instead of pre doggo
hollow saffron
hi can you don't strikethrough
zenith hazel
hi can you don’t minimod
sand umbra
ashen warren
If you're talking about movement speed boosts there's a simple 
option.
Make every boss scale speed.
ashen warren
I see no problems with this plan imo tbh ngl
sand umbra
DoG is a boss you need a large amount of mobility for, yet he cucks most of it into oblivion for a large portion of his fight.
hollow saffron
ironic
queen delta
It makes sense for alicorn to be post-DoG tho
sand umbra
And Seraph Tracers, the thing you're stuck with until after beating him, are
less than impressive speed-wise.
karmic stone
Every boss?
How am i supposed to outspeed SCal then
ashen warren
So are you saying seraph buff?
ashen warren
imagine brain small tbh
sand umbra
Seraph buff and also make it actually possible for Calamity boots to be affected by movement speed buffs.
queen delta
I got a specific item idea
hollow saffron
rip
sand umbra
throw it at meeeeeeee
queen delta
Seralysian Tracers
New tracers between seraph and elysian tracers pre-polter
karmic stone
Seraph with Royal Treads level of speed would be
radiant meadow
Let me give Seralysian Tracers the official Dev rejection
karmic stone
Elysiaph tracers
radiant meadow
sand umbra
queen delta
I dunno what that is but it sounds epic
sand umbra
Personally I think the gap between Seraph Tracers and Elysian Tracers is fine, it's just.
radiant meadow
that would require doggo to be retested
zenith hazel
DoG is getting reworked anyway so we’ll see
radiant meadow
again
hollow saffron
ah ok
karmic stone
again
queen delta
How about DoG slows you down to same speed as cute fishron on ground
sand umbra
yata no
hollow saffron
how about
radiant meadow
yes
hollow saffron
no
sand umbra
yata no
ashen warren
yes
hollow saffron
sand umbra
ashen warren
I agree yat.
karmic stone
You mispelled Hardy saddle
sand umbra
hollow saffron
you mispelled fabsol
ashen warren
2mph DoG memes
pliant bone
no.
proven tide
yes
@ashen warren let's do that
seq and i are currently in the process of fighting LC before cryogen
hollow shell
Prove that it can be done
proven tide
yaa
hollow shell
Speedrun dreams
hollow shell
That's pretty good
proven tide
no menacing reforges
no decent reforges at all, actually
"55% is pretty good"
silence, nerd, we've set boss health bonus to 100%
we've gotten him to 10% effectively
summoner + rogue with shitmeme pre-cryo items doing 90% to lc
UWU
queen delta
Tbf LC is just running in one direction and jumping
hollow saffron
lc is just a no arena challenge