#suggestions-discussion | Calamity Mod Discord | Page 688

lost agate Sep 13, 2019, 4:20 AM

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It literally just got rebalanced on test version

zenith hazel Sep 13, 2019, 4:20 AM

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Shucks did tease a sandnado change a while ago iirc

lost agate Sep 13, 2019, 4:20 AM

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Yes

sand umbra Sep 13, 2019, 4:21 AM

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epic gamer moment

placid moth Sep 13, 2019, 4:21 AM

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Are they ?

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Cool.

lost agate Sep 13, 2019, 4:21 AM

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Yeah

zenith hazel Sep 13, 2019, 4:21 AM

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sandnados and butterflies are getting balanced out which is pretty cool

lost agate Sep 13, 2019, 4:21 AM

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They got nerfed dmg wise but can do better at attacking

sand umbra Sep 13, 2019, 4:22 AM

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neat.

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~~Now fix the Stardust Dragon to not have the IQ of a peanut when flying around a boss.~~

lost agate Sep 13, 2019, 4:22 AM

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Lowkey 2 and a half minutes for ML pre nerf

sand umbra Sep 13, 2019, 4:22 AM

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OmegaFailure

hollow shell Sep 13, 2019, 4:23 AM

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https://discordapp.com/channels/225030931008847874/263382359397761025/617884060659875840, https://discordapp.com/channels/225030931008847874/263382359397761025/615251116988563477, https://discordapp.com/channels/225030931008847874/263382359397761025/612548695103111178, https://discordapp.com/channels/225030931008847874/263382359397761025/610842988515557377

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@worthy viper

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There

placid moth Sep 13, 2019, 4:23 AM

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what

sand umbra Sep 13, 2019, 4:23 AM

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a

hollow shell Sep 13, 2019, 4:23 AM

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Some examples of weapon suggestions

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Not as specific as the one you're going for, so I'm sorry they're not as much of a help there

zenith hazel Sep 13, 2019, 4:23 AM

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I thought some weird dude was spamming

placid moth Sep 13, 2019, 4:23 AM

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Actually I felt pre-hardmode summoner was alright, referring to that third link Rover sent.

hollow shell Sep 13, 2019, 4:24 AM

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Weapon suggestions are usually to fill lacking tiers

zenith hazel Sep 13, 2019, 4:24 AM

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I wish the evil bosses minions were... good for skele?

hollow shell Sep 13, 2019, 4:24 AM

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or some other empty area

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(like Legendaries)

placid moth Sep 13, 2019, 4:24 AM

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It's really Destroyer where it cannot do anything.

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I used Imps for pretty much most of Pre-Hardmode, even Skele

sand umbra Sep 13, 2019, 4:25 AM

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...idle note: I keep asking myself if I should eventually try and push a post-Birb yo-yo simply so fighting Provi with the subclass isn't like a visit to the Four-Armed Dentist but at the same time 1) I don't really care to and b) even if i did I have Entropy's Edge to at least partially solve that issue.

Maybe that's why I don't really throw weapon suggestions in here much. hm.

worthy viper Sep 13, 2019, 4:26 AM

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Well thank you Stardust Sors, I’ll keep that in mind

hollow shell Sep 13, 2019, 4:26 AM

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You're welcome

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also why the fuck do people do entire playthroughs with only one weapon type

sand umbra Sep 13, 2019, 4:27 AM

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why the fuck do people use nothing but ark of the cosmos on scal

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.

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actually, don't answer that, I already know why.

worthy viper Sep 13, 2019, 4:27 AM

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It’s a lot simpler to use 1 weapon type

hollow shell Sep 13, 2019, 4:27 AM

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It's really not a good reason for a specific variety of weapon to be added to any given tier
in my opinion

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I've seen a lot of suggestions that use it as the sole reason
when it's a really arbitrary self-imposed limitation, of course there are going to be weak and strong points

worthy viper Sep 13, 2019, 4:28 AM

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That’s true probably

lost agate Sep 13, 2019, 4:29 AM

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Adding stuff just so you can do your sub class run DarylThonk
Like i get an entire class missing weapons is a problem, but sub class? pain

hollow idol Sep 13, 2019, 4:31 AM

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i dont even see that many people doing sub class runs

lost agate Sep 13, 2019, 4:31 AM

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Also using ark of the cosmos on scal is a completely different deal

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Its called viability

hollow shell Sep 13, 2019, 4:31 AM

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ye a bit of false equivalence there

lost agate Sep 13, 2019, 4:32 AM

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People dont use ark of the cosmos cuz of a sub class run, its just that good of a weapon

proven tide Sep 13, 2019, 4:32 AM

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MORE YOYO CONTENT

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h

sand umbra Sep 13, 2019, 4:32 AM

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oh no

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can we not start the yo-yo train again

placid moth Sep 13, 2019, 4:32 AM

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Did you actually complete DAY, Thomas

sand umbra Sep 13, 2019, 4:33 AM

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please

proven tide Sep 13, 2019, 4:33 AM

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there's, you know, 'give flails a bit of love' and 'a couple more sentries please'

placid moth Sep 13, 2019, 4:33 AM

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we have enough sentries

lost agate Sep 13, 2019, 4:33 AM

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You were the one that started it thomas

proven tide Sep 13, 2019, 4:33 AM

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but then there's the fucking MORE YO-YOS, UPGRADE YO-YO BAG, BETTER YO-YO GLOVE

sand umbra Sep 13, 2019, 4:33 AM

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okay lemme rephrase

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why the hell do so many people still care about it

hollow shell Sep 13, 2019, 4:33 AM

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about what

sand umbra Sep 13, 2019, 4:34 AM

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yo-yos, apparently?

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i'm not certain at this point

hollow shell Sep 13, 2019, 4:34 AM

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I don't know why people (including you apparently cuz this was the conversation sparker) care about yoyos so much

sand umbra Sep 13, 2019, 4:35 AM

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If I'm being entirely honest, at this point I couldn't tell you myself why I give half a fuck about yo-yos.

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Or any of the subclasses, really.

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I just kinda
do. I guess.
It's weird and I'm not sure how to describe it.

lost agate Sep 13, 2019, 4:35 AM

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Then why bring up the fact yoyos struggle on provi

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If you dont care

hollow shell Sep 13, 2019, 4:36 AM

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Well he does care

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but he doesn't know why he cares

sand umbra Sep 13, 2019, 4:36 AM

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^

hollow shell Sep 13, 2019, 4:36 AM

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(also what is DAY may I ask)

frail mantle Sep 13, 2019, 4:36 AM

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yoyo nohits

lost agate Sep 13, 2019, 4:36 AM

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Yoyo nohits basically

civic rampart Sep 13, 2019, 4:36 AM

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and what is CCC

sand umbra Sep 13, 2019, 4:36 AM

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death-armageddon-yoyo
nohit journey

also known as "hello, i am a masochist"

hollow shell Sep 13, 2019, 4:37 AM

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oh

placid moth Sep 13, 2019, 4:37 AM

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Change it to EE, I guess ?

hollow shell Sep 13, 2019, 4:37 AM

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also CCC is his massive suggestion doc iirc

sand umbra Sep 13, 2019, 4:37 AM

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CCC is ~~god damnit I need to get my nick changed~~ the old name of Entropy's Edge.

hollow shell Sep 13, 2019, 4:37 AM

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which

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yeah

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renamed

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Do it Shucks

sand umbra Sep 13, 2019, 4:38 AM

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thinkies

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I don't know why I have DAY in my nick, tbf

lost agate Sep 13, 2019, 4:38 AM

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To what

sand umbra Sep 13, 2019, 4:38 AM

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or rather, I don't remember why

hollow shell Sep 13, 2019, 4:38 AM

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change CCC to EE I guess

sand umbra Sep 13, 2019, 4:38 AM

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or just have it say "Entropy's Edge guy" instead of "DAY/CCC guy"
~~so I can have people stop asking me what DAY is and keep my masochism to myself. a~~

hollow shell Sep 13, 2019, 4:39 AM

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Chaotrix/Pandemic exclusively to kill Providence does sound like fun

sand umbra Sep 13, 2019, 4:40 AM

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nah. Terrarian.

hollow shell Sep 13, 2019, 4:40 AM

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ah

sand umbra Sep 13, 2019, 4:40 AM

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In which i-frames ruin everything.

hollow shell Sep 13, 2019, 4:40 AM

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also thanks Shucks

sand umbra Sep 13, 2019, 4:40 AM

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I haven't pushed a sugg about it because it's a really complicated thing
(also yes thank you shucks much appreciated)

lost agate Sep 13, 2019, 4:40 AM

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(nobody saw the first name change) CompleteFailure

sand umbra Sep 13, 2019, 4:40 AM

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CompleteFailure

placid moth Sep 13, 2019, 4:40 AM

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perhaps

sand umbra Sep 13, 2019, 4:41 AM

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.
i just remembered this is sugmas discussion

why are we here

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thinkies

hollow shell Sep 13, 2019, 4:41 AM

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Indeed, I was boutta bring that up

proven tide Sep 13, 2019, 4:42 AM

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just to suffer

sand umbra Sep 13, 2019, 4:42 AM

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so
new abilities for Bloodstone bosses.

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yeah.

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That's a thing that I'm surprised doesn't exist yet.

civic rampart Sep 13, 2019, 4:42 AM

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thomas, fishing in open air? tf

proven tide Sep 13, 2019, 4:42 AM

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tl;dr subclass expansion for its own sake is bad, yes?

hollow shell Sep 13, 2019, 4:43 AM

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Might add to Don'ts but I'm not sure

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I feel like I recall a lot of reasons being that subclass runs are difficult due to points lacking in tiers

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but

frail mantle Sep 13, 2019, 4:43 AM

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i mean

hollow shell Sep 13, 2019, 4:43 AM

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a tier lacking a certain thing is a valid reason in some cases

frail mantle Sep 13, 2019, 4:43 AM

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nearly all classes and subclasses suffer at some point in the game

hollow shell Sep 13, 2019, 4:44 AM

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(that's the fun of playin different classes)

sand umbra Sep 13, 2019, 4:44 AM

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~~as long as nobody suggests that another early-Hardmode throw be added I'm good, there are already more than enough of those~~

hollow shell Sep 13, 2019, 4:44 AM

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(different points give you harder times)

sand umbra Sep 13, 2019, 4:44 AM

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Anywho.

hollow shell Sep 13, 2019, 5:27 AM

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@ashen warren Catching the player off-guard is the entire point

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It wouldn't be a surprise attack if you saw when they spawned and the indicator remains on the screen until they despawn or you find them

ashen warren Sep 13, 2019, 5:30 AM

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Are they the only minibosses that have the factor?

hollow shell Sep 13, 2019, 5:30 AM

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They were an intentional exclusion when the boss health bars were added.

fierce hedge Sep 13, 2019, 6:21 AM

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@ashen warren Add a reason.

thick cedar Sep 13, 2019, 6:27 AM

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I was wondering, are Vanity accessory slots hardcoded to not work or it's possible to work around them?

proven tide Sep 13, 2019, 6:28 AM

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@fierce hedge there is a reason >:C

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it's literally right there

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mainly so they can be more than just stat buff memez

fierce hedge Sep 13, 2019, 6:28 AM

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I dont find it a good one

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I feel like its a joke

proven tide Sep 13, 2019, 6:29 AM

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still a reason

fierce hedge Sep 13, 2019, 6:29 AM

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But iguess you're right

sinful violet Sep 13, 2019, 6:29 AM

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It's good enough. It's basically the only reason there is.

proven tide Sep 13, 2019, 6:29 AM

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~~okay so there's helping people with suggestions then there's minimodding~~

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^

thick cedar Sep 13, 2019, 6:29 AM

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My concern are Music Boxes, it would be nice to have them work even while in a vanity accessory slot, but before writing a suggestion I want to be sure there are no hardcoded obstacles.

sinful violet Sep 13, 2019, 6:29 AM

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If it said "In order to keep the boss from just being buffed through stats" you'd be fine with it smh HDfailure

proven tide Sep 13, 2019, 6:29 AM

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^

fierce hedge Sep 13, 2019, 6:30 AM

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I get it.

sinful violet Sep 13, 2019, 6:30 AM

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Also you could definitely suggest that teh

proven tide Sep 13, 2019, 6:30 AM

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~~too many carrots from me~~ as it stands it's the same message but conveyed in a very special calamity way

sinful violet Sep 13, 2019, 6:30 AM

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I do think it may cause some trouble, but it doesn't hurt to put it in there.

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Don't know until we try after all.

proven tide Sep 13, 2019, 6:31 AM

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iirc the mod Better Music Boxes already has this as a feature

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i'M NOT DOING THE "OH BUT THIS ALREADY EXISTS, GO AWAY" THING

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just saying that it's been done so it's likely doable

sinful violet Sep 13, 2019, 6:31 AM

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Yeah we know

proven tide Sep 13, 2019, 6:31 AM

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~~considering it's been done~~

sinful violet Sep 13, 2019, 6:31 AM

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So there's your answer, I think it's a good idea.

thick cedar Sep 13, 2019, 6:31 AM

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Oh. Does it work with Calamity boxes or?

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If it does I don't think there would be a purpose to suggest it tho thonk

proven tide Sep 13, 2019, 6:33 AM

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i've seen this logic used before but i think it's kinda faulty considering we have boss health bars

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everyone knows about fk's YABHB and until Calamity introduced its own everyone used it

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but, yannow, multiple mods having the same qol features isn't anything new and i reckon it'd work here

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not sure if many people know if the better music box mod exists

thick cedar Sep 13, 2019, 6:36 AM

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Alright then, how to bold text? HDfailure

proven tide Sep 13, 2019, 6:36 AM

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**bold**

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uwu

bright mountain Sep 13, 2019, 7:49 AM

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@thick cedar herd of antieocial?

placid moth Sep 13, 2019, 8:09 AM

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@thick cedar Actually, I just cheatsheet to get more accessory slots.

proven tide Sep 13, 2019, 8:15 AM

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oh wow, it's exactly the "this already exists go away" thing that i mentioned earlier

thick cedar Sep 13, 2019, 8:15 AM

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I asked in this channel before posting and it was judged as an actually presentable post, so I posted it.

worthy fiber Sep 13, 2019, 8:15 AM

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Do what Simon did

proven tide Sep 13, 2019, 8:15 AM

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^

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what does simon say to do hellyes

worthy fiber Sep 13, 2019, 8:16 AM

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the ping thingy they just did

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Don’t think a music box slot would fit Calamity, but we’ll see

hollow shell Sep 13, 2019, 8:20 AM

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Even better, both of those proposed options have been suggested in the past

proven tide Sep 13, 2019, 8:21 AM

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mrrp: hell yeah go ahead i'd star that
willow: just use other mods as a crutch
rover: no.

hollow shell Sep 13, 2019, 8:21 AM

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Hey it's bluecheck, you can still star

proven tide Sep 13, 2019, 8:21 AM

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a bluecheck is the kiss of death to a suggestion

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it's essentially seen as a "we've already said no to this one >:c"

hollow shell Sep 13, 2019, 8:22 AM

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(Only the music box slot suggestion was rejected)

proven tide Sep 13, 2019, 8:23 AM

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(note that when pitching the idea to mrrp that part of the suggestion wasn't mentioned 👀)

thick cedar Sep 13, 2019, 8:24 AM

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Idk one may have brought up the "bruh I need all the 7 slots to look cool af"

proven tide Sep 13, 2019, 8:24 AM

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if you need all seven slots for vanity methinks you're compensating for something 👀

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also the visual noise slobbyjoy

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~~this coming from someone whose many-hundreds-of-hours original super-character wears plat armour with no vanity accs to look as flat as possible~~

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~~i might be biased away from it but that's because anyone who thinks seven vanity accs is a good idea is an idiot who needs to be shot~~

thick cedar Sep 13, 2019, 8:26 AM

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I normally use 4 slots for aesthetics, the lens flare from Yoraiz0r's spell is majestic HyperEthanJudge

proven tide Sep 13, 2019, 8:27 AM

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armour + unholy charm/yharon's shackle

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every time

hollow shell Sep 13, 2019, 8:28 AM

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my favorite accessories

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Unholy Charm
Yharim's Shackle

thick cedar Sep 13, 2019, 8:28 AM

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I tried to make my character look like Neo from Matrix but the Aegis keeps ruining my plans

proven tide Sep 13, 2019, 8:28 AM

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yharon's* fuck you

hollow shell Sep 13, 2019, 8:28 AM

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my favorite accessory
Yharon's Shackle

proven tide Sep 13, 2019, 8:29 AM

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~~ily rover bby uwu~~

hollow shell Sep 13, 2019, 8:29 AM

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~~thanks~~

proven tide Sep 13, 2019, 8:29 AM

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i'm missing something thonk

hollow shell Sep 13, 2019, 8:29 AM

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Are they CV accessories

proven tide Sep 13, 2019, 8:29 AM

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yes

hollow shell Sep 13, 2019, 8:29 AM

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ah

proven tide Sep 13, 2019, 8:29 AM

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📎 Screen_Shot_2019-09-13_at_6.29.47_PM.png

hollow shell Sep 13, 2019, 8:29 AM

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Haven't used it, wouldnt know

proven tide Sep 13, 2019, 8:30 AM

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lel

hollow shell Sep 13, 2019, 8:30 AM

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iunno why I'm still in that server but I could say that for a lot of servers

proven tide Sep 13, 2019, 8:30 AM

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this is the part where you say "shut up, nerd"

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or, you know, do that.

hollow shell Sep 13, 2019, 8:30 AM

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anyway

proven tide Sep 13, 2019, 8:31 AM

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oo, oo, here's an idea:

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a new pinnouncement clarifying ☑ and ❕

hollow shell Sep 13, 2019, 8:31 AM

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Why.

zenith hazel Sep 13, 2019, 8:32 AM

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there’s already a pin like that

proven tide Sep 13, 2019, 8:32 AM

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i mean

hollow shell Sep 13, 2019, 8:32 AM

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They already have like 3 sentences each in the Legend

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which is 3 times longer than the other reactions

proven tide Sep 13, 2019, 8:32 AM

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❕ is often seen as dislikes and i've seen multiple people take down suggs because they have more ❕s than stars

hollow shell Sep 13, 2019, 8:33 AM

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I don't think that's the reason

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I think that suggestions that are due for taking down tend to get a lot of ❕ because people know they're invalid

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Like "nerf halibut cannon"
[⭐ 2] [❕ 18]

proven tide Sep 13, 2019, 8:36 AM

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there's just already a few instances of mods having to clarify "❕ is not a downvote button"

hollow shell Sep 13, 2019, 8:36 AM

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It does get annoying having to click X on them all when reviewing

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especially on mobile's slow ass which automatically switches to the other reaction when you've cleared all of one
I've accidentally removed a star or two cuz of that shit

proven tide Sep 13, 2019, 8:38 AM

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You've specified yourself that you personally just use it as an indicator of validity regardless of whether you agree, but it's really quite a clear trend that people use ❕ as an "I disagree" rather than "hey, I reckon this needs an authority to review it"

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all i'm saying is that it might be good to remind people that NO

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suggestion: replace ❕ with puredisgust so that only the stupidest and least valid suggestions get flagged rather than every remotely objectionable proposal hellyes

zenith hazel Sep 13, 2019, 8:41 AM

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that would sound really aggressive

hollow shell Sep 13, 2019, 8:41 AM

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(but then there'd be puredisgust whenever any new suggestion gets made)

proven tide Sep 13, 2019, 8:41 AM

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i'm a good administrator, i know what i'm doing HDfailure

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(silence)

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that aside, i think it's slowly becoming more and more of an issue that needs addressing (the ❕ = "i hold a different opinion" rather than "this is a really wonky suggestion, someone review it please")

hollow shell Sep 13, 2019, 8:43 AM

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Unfortunately I don't think that an announcement or pin edit is really gonna stop people from doin that

proven tide Sep 13, 2019, 8:43 AM

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well, it stopped people from calling self-stars

hollow shell Sep 13, 2019, 8:43 AM

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It's a natural reaction
You see the "I agree" button and you see the one next to it, the only other option

proven tide Sep 13, 2019, 8:43 AM

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~~EXCEPT ME~~

hollow shell Sep 13, 2019, 8:44 AM

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~~You were the only person calling self-stars smh~~

proven tide Sep 13, 2019, 8:45 AM

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~~i reject your reality and substitute my own~~

📎 Screen_Shot_2019-09-13_at_6.44.59_PM.png

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although in refuting that point i proved your overarching one

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pinnouncements aren't perfectly comprehensive, yeah, and people do still go against the reminded grain

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but at the same time if you look back over the history of "self-star" in this channel before and after the pin most of the messages ~~apart from me continuing to call them out in strikethrough because irony is the best defence~~ are just statements of "yeah, some people do dislike it, but it's not disallowed" rather than "self-star, you're bad >:C"

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i reckon a new pin could make a difference

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your call, though

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

hollow shell Sep 13, 2019, 8:49 AM

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Maybe.

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I will think about it

proven tide Sep 13, 2019, 8:50 AM

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let's see how the next couple of weeks go regarding reacts and disc responses

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~~reminder that this channel's shortened name is #sugg-disc~~

bright mountain Sep 13, 2019, 9:22 AM

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why is this here https://discordapp.com/channels/225030931008847874/263382359397761025/539558307338256386

proven tide Sep 13, 2019, 9:26 AM

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because it's a suggestion

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Let me rearrange it: Is it possible to have a vanity item of demon horns?

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just a ver bad one

opal barn Sep 13, 2019, 9:29 AM

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dude, that suggestion is from january

proven tide Sep 13, 2019, 9:30 AM

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also that

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someone's checkin backlogs thonk

proven tide Sep 13, 2019, 1:39 PM

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CONTROVERSIAL SUGGESTION

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make summon weapons not lose damage if you're holding a rogue weapon

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because class synergy and also statis exists

frail mantle Sep 13, 2019, 1:43 PM

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maybe rather Statis' Belt of Curses reduces the summon penalty while holding a Rogue weapon

void kelp Sep 13, 2019, 1:52 PM

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yeah, I think it should apply to that item only tbh

frail mantle Sep 13, 2019, 2:00 PM

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also i'm pretty sure someone's already suggested that before

tired haven Sep 13, 2019, 2:03 PM

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I should suggest that, again or not, for memes

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OmegaFailure

hollow shell Sep 13, 2019, 2:09 PM

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https://discordapp.com/channels/225030931008847874/263382359397761025/539524989276258314

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Has indeed been suggested

proven tide Sep 13, 2019, 2:22 PM

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@ashen warren deus*

frail mantle Sep 13, 2019, 2:23 PM

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i'm not really sure what that suggestion means

proven tide Sep 13, 2019, 2:23 PM

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An alternative progression boss

hollow idol Sep 13, 2019, 2:23 PM

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Alt astrum deus fight for people with trash pc

ashen warren Sep 13, 2019, 2:23 PM

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Like a different boss with the same drops

frail mantle Sep 13, 2019, 2:23 PM

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boss suggestions aren't allowed

ashen warren Sep 13, 2019, 2:24 PM

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I'm not suggesting King Crown of the abyss

proven tide Sep 13, 2019, 2:24 PM

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not "Specific boss suggestions"

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no, boss suggestions are flat-out denied

sand umbra Sep 13, 2019, 2:24 PM

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~~Just more reasons why Deus needs to be reworked hahayes--~~

hollow idol Sep 13, 2019, 2:25 PM

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Config option to decrease projectile spam and or shorten segments/delete some worms entirely would be better

proven tide Sep 13, 2019, 2:25 PM

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deus needs to be reworked

hollow idol Sep 13, 2019, 2:25 PM

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but up stats i guess

proven tide Sep 13, 2019, 2:25 PM

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why the fuck does everyone hate on my boi deus is a good boss >:(

hollow idol Sep 13, 2019, 2:25 PM

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Lag

ashen warren Sep 13, 2019, 2:25 PM

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I can't fight him

sand umbra Sep 13, 2019, 2:25 PM

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You think I'm kidding but when a Siren and Levi drop (Atlantis) can get good DPS because there are worms everywhere

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you've done something wrong.

ashen warren Sep 13, 2019, 2:25 PM

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I had to actually end my run

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1fps

hollow shell Sep 13, 2019, 2:25 PM

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Deus isn't required iirc?

placid moth Sep 13, 2019, 2:26 PM

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I got 1 fps for maso goblin army too, it's okay.

ashen warren Sep 13, 2019, 2:26 PM

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It is

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I need he bars

proven tide Sep 13, 2019, 2:26 PM

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deus is required if you want

hollow shell Sep 13, 2019, 2:26 PM

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For what? I can't remember

proven tide Sep 13, 2019, 2:26 PM

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b i g

placid moth Sep 13, 2019, 2:26 PM

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Do you want to make Astral Gear or

proven tide Sep 13, 2019, 2:26 PM

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l o o t

sand umbra Sep 13, 2019, 2:26 PM

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It's not a necessary boss, but Astral Bars are kind of a huge help going into the ML fight.

proven tide Sep 13, 2019, 2:26 PM

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you need to phuck deus if you want sustainable fragments grind

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

hollow shell Sep 13, 2019, 2:26 PM

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Are you prevented from fighting Provvy, DoG, Yharon, or SCal by not killing Deus?

placid moth Sep 13, 2019, 2:26 PM

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I forgot about Deus before doing ML

ashen warren Sep 13, 2019, 2:26 PM

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Yeah we needed Astral Bars

proven tide Sep 13, 2019, 2:26 PM

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IS DEUS ABSOLUTELY FUCKING MANDATORY?

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NO?

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GO AWAY

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jokes aside, though

ashen warren Sep 13, 2019, 2:27 PM

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Okay yeah I'll just kill the last boss with a copper short sword

frail mantle Sep 13, 2019, 2:27 PM

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thonk what

proven tide Sep 13, 2019, 2:27 PM

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deus is fine where it is, and although it is, admittedly, a deeply flawed fight, it's still what and where it is because it works ~~although it still does need a bit of tweaking~~

hollow shell Sep 13, 2019, 2:28 PM

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The reasoning for your suggestion is fine JustCrimson
however you cannot suggest that an alternate to Deus be added because that would mean a new boss

proven tide Sep 13, 2019, 2:28 PM

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^

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that too

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i reckon as it stands it's fine

hollow shell Sep 13, 2019, 2:28 PM

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Suggest that he be reworked, or specify that this alternate method would not constitute adding a new boss

odd orchid Sep 13, 2019, 2:28 PM

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I find it weird how everything refers to it as a single entity when you're fighting like, 10 separate ones

proven tide Sep 13, 2019, 2:28 PM

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not, you know, great, but no need for an entirely new boss

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eleven bodies, one entity

ashen warren Sep 13, 2019, 2:29 PM

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Fixed

odd terrace Sep 13, 2019, 2:29 PM

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If the alternative is ending the run, just cheat in some bars and penalize yourself in some way

proven tide Sep 13, 2019, 2:29 PM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

hollow shell Sep 13, 2019, 2:29 PM

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That's better

ashen warren Sep 13, 2019, 2:29 PM

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I did end the run lmao

hollow shell Sep 13, 2019, 2:29 PM

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(again, Astral Bars not required)

ashen warren Sep 13, 2019, 2:29 PM

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Oh you said if

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Yeah but owch oof owie my soul

tawdry magnet Sep 13, 2019, 2:29 PM

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If deus tanks your FPS, so will other bosses

proven tide Sep 13, 2019, 2:29 PM

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Astral Chest: <contains six bars>
Me, a multiplayer addict: ITEM FRAME AND ANVIL TIME

ashen warren Sep 13, 2019, 2:30 PM

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Deus is the only boss that has tanked my fps

void kelp Sep 13, 2019, 2:30 PM

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have the later bosses done that?

ashen warren Sep 13, 2019, 2:30 PM

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Can't say, I haven't beat them

tawdry magnet Sep 13, 2019, 2:30 PM

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lmao

proven tide Sep 13, 2019, 2:30 PM

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when your only placeable bars are eye-bleeding rock candy

tawdry magnet Sep 13, 2019, 2:30 PM

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so 'the only boss'

proven tide Sep 13, 2019, 2:30 PM

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tawdry magnet Sep 13, 2019, 2:30 PM

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isn't the only boss

tired haven Sep 13, 2019, 2:30 PM

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I guess the astral ore hypothetically could be unlocked if you defeat ML
(but then it requires AD to give you luminite too, and even without that the idea in general is a balance hell)

proven tide Sep 13, 2019, 2:30 PM

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(AD gives Luminite p-ml)

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(not an unprecedented change)

hollow shell Sep 13, 2019, 2:31 PM

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Astrum Deus as an alt of Moon Lord HyperFailure

sand umbra Sep 13, 2019, 2:31 PM

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(no he doesn't)

proven tide Sep 13, 2019, 2:31 PM

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(I mean as the fix to that suggestion, ya goof .>.)

void kelp Sep 13, 2019, 2:31 PM

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(I’m p sure that was just a suggestion I made)

sand umbra Sep 13, 2019, 2:31 PM

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I'd enjoy Deuces as an alt of ML if Deuces wasn't a a pain in the ass in its own right.

proven tide Sep 13, 2019, 2:31 PM

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(bracket hour bracket hour)

sand umbra Sep 13, 2019, 2:31 PM

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ECh

proven tide Sep 13, 2019, 2:31 PM

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deus immediately post-moon lord

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when

tawdry magnet Sep 13, 2019, 2:31 PM

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wtf is deuces

hollow shell Sep 13, 2019, 2:32 PM

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running joke

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name for Deus

tawdry magnet Sep 13, 2019, 2:32 PM

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oh right

proven tide Sep 13, 2019, 2:33 PM

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95% of "deuces" results is just this boi

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slobbyjoy

queen sail Sep 13, 2019, 2:35 PM

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Astral ore is obtainable from astral slimes

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...after you beat AD

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:ech:

zenith hazel Sep 13, 2019, 2:35 PM

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by that logic let’s have another way to obtain cosmilite bars because DoG eats frames

hollow shell Sep 13, 2019, 2:36 PM

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ok but what if 10 DoGs

sand umbra Sep 13, 2019, 2:36 PM

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NPCArmsDealerGun

queen sail Sep 13, 2019, 2:36 PM

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If anything the best option i can suggest for you is to turn off frame skip

sand umbra Sep 13, 2019, 2:36 PM

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get this cursed idea off my dash

queen sail Sep 13, 2019, 2:36 PM

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@ashen warren

hollow shell Sep 13, 2019, 2:37 PM

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oof

void kelp Sep 13, 2019, 2:37 PM

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yeah, turning off frame skip will make ur game run in slow-mo but it’ll be functional

queen sail Sep 13, 2019, 2:37 PM

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Fuck mobile

sand umbra Sep 13, 2019, 2:37 PM

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10 DoGs will never happen

queen sail Sep 13, 2019, 2:37 PM

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HDhurdur

sand umbra Sep 13, 2019, 2:37 PM

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a

ashen warren Sep 13, 2019, 2:37 PM

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I was pinged

queen sail Sep 13, 2019, 2:37 PM

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Look up

sand umbra Sep 13, 2019, 2:37 PM

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you were ponged indeed

hollow shell Sep 13, 2019, 2:37 PM

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Someone wanted you to turn off Frame Skip so the game is playable but slowmo

ashen warren Sep 13, 2019, 2:37 PM

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Multiplayer

zenith hazel Sep 13, 2019, 2:37 PM

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or just lower your settings

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ok now that’s another can of worms, literally and figuratively

queen sail Sep 13, 2019, 2:38 PM

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Go singleplayer

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HyperFailure

hollow shell Sep 13, 2019, 2:38 PM

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~~hehehe, worms~~

ashen warren Sep 13, 2019, 2:38 PM

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No

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Freeend

zenith hazel Sep 13, 2019, 2:38 PM

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pun definitely intended

hollow shell Sep 13, 2019, 2:38 PM

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If you both turn off frame skip does it work

sand umbra Sep 13, 2019, 2:38 PM

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hueh

zenith hazel Sep 13, 2019, 2:38 PM

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kill deus on singleplayer and return to multiplayer

hollow shell Sep 13, 2019, 2:38 PM

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Is there any way to make frameskip off work in multi?

void kelp Sep 13, 2019, 2:38 PM

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I don’t think so

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bc both devices aren’t the same which means that latency presents itself in different ways

signal prairie Sep 13, 2019, 2:39 PM

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Unless everyone has FS turned off then I think. I haven't tested it before

void kelp Sep 13, 2019, 2:39 PM

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frameskip off and autopause are pretty much single player things

proven tide Sep 13, 2019, 2:49 PM

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frameskip off just makes you teleport backwards

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autopause flat-out doesn't work in mp

hollow shell Sep 13, 2019, 2:49 PM

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(not sure how it would)

proven tide Sep 13, 2019, 2:49 PM

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^

hollow shell Sep 13, 2019, 2:50 PM

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Unless you coordinated your pauses

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game doesn't pause if any amount of players less than all of them are autopaused simultaneously

proven tide Sep 13, 2019, 2:50 PM

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frameskip off means that while the server thinks you're moving at, say, 100mph, your shitty 6fps computer will be telling you you're effectively moving at 10mph, meaning the server will loop you moving that distance ten fucking times until the clientside finally decides you've reached the end

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frameskip is for pro gamers, don't disable it

void kelp Sep 13, 2019, 2:52 PM

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I disable it since t makes my game run smoother 😛

proven tide Sep 13, 2019, 2:54 PM

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but equally slowly

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filthy singleplayer

fierce hedge Sep 13, 2019, 3:37 PM

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@proven tide Can i trigger you

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I hate Frameskip

proven tide Sep 13, 2019, 3:40 PM

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you can try

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but it'll take a little more than a game mechanic preference to stop me

queen sail Sep 13, 2019, 3:41 PM

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I mean i kinda have to turn off frame skip

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My laptop begins to lag as the game progresses

brazen bramble Sep 13, 2019, 4:36 PM

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@ashen warren you gonna love devourer of gods

ashen warren Sep 13, 2019, 4:44 PM

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no

grizzled matrix Sep 13, 2019, 6:41 PM

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But you can just mine the ore after Deus

brazen bramble Sep 13, 2019, 6:44 PM

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but he can't beat the boss because lags

bitter topaz Sep 13, 2019, 6:55 PM

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@ashen warren why are you using hornets & imps against WoF?

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you're intended to use the herring staff against it

queen sail Sep 13, 2019, 6:56 PM

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Weren’t imps and hornets like

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The only vanilla options tho

cyan lagoon Sep 13, 2019, 6:57 PM

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Yes

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And both are unfortunately terrible

placid moth Sep 13, 2019, 7:00 PM

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Imps are okayish

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But I see no reason to buff the Hornet Staff

civic pond Sep 13, 2019, 7:23 PM

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I mean

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if you accidently summon it in hardmode wouldn't you be able to kill it easily

ashen warren Sep 13, 2019, 7:23 PM

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i summoned him during destroyer fight, i got mad and posted this suggestion

civic pond Sep 13, 2019, 7:23 PM

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🤔

ashen warren Sep 13, 2019, 7:23 PM

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still he needs a little more health during hardmode

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maybe like 3000

civic pond Sep 13, 2019, 7:24 PM

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mayhaps

void kelp Sep 13, 2019, 7:24 PM

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i think that's a fair judgement. often you can accidentally spawn it if you're mob farming since the cyst is hiding behind a bunch of enemies

civic pond Sep 13, 2019, 7:24 PM

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I do that all the time with queen bee

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half my attempts fighting the devourer summoned one

worthy viper Sep 13, 2019, 7:35 PM

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More end game armor due to the lack of it currently

queen sail Sep 13, 2019, 7:35 PM

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We have like

civic pond Sep 13, 2019, 7:35 PM

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aren't they multiclass anyways

queen sail Sep 13, 2019, 7:36 PM

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5 helmets foreach class though

void kelp Sep 13, 2019, 7:36 PM

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yeah

terse sundial Sep 13, 2019, 7:36 PM

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the base armor is, but the helmets aren't

void kelp Sep 13, 2019, 7:36 PM

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and also demonshade is multiclass

terse sundial Sep 13, 2019, 7:36 PM

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demonshade is multiclass, OBA is multiclass

worthy viper Sep 13, 2019, 7:36 PM

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So they’re just not listed on the wiki

void kelp Sep 13, 2019, 7:37 PM

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yes they are?

queen sail Sep 13, 2019, 7:37 PM

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Tarragon, Bloodflare, Omega Blue, God Slayer, Silva, Auric, Demonshade

worthy viper Sep 13, 2019, 7:38 PM

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There’s only demonshade listed

queen sail Sep 13, 2019, 7:38 PM

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You uh

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Sure you’re on the armors page

jovial spire Sep 13, 2019, 7:41 PM

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dont froget Xeroc armor

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so that 8 post ML sets

queen sail Sep 13, 2019, 7:42 PM

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That’s around as much armors as hm

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Hm calamity anyways

jovial spire Sep 13, 2019, 7:43 PM

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its after ML and used for a post ML boss

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so counts for me

hollow saffron Sep 13, 2019, 7:51 PM

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@ashen warren I feel like you could suggest lowering the projectiles on the screen in the AD fight

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Also have you tried to set quality to low or auto

hollow shell Sep 13, 2019, 7:52 PM

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~~Crimson doesn't get a break, lmao~~

ashen warren Sep 13, 2019, 7:58 PM

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ffs yeah

hollow shell Sep 13, 2019, 8:19 PM

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There are a lot of mods that add renewable altars

hollow idol Sep 13, 2019, 8:21 PM

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Fab has stated before that he assumed at lowest that you are playing pure calamity and maybe some lesser qol like checklist

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like all the item recipes and boss health bars are in plenty of other mods

hollow shell Sep 13, 2019, 8:22 PM

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I mean, sure what's the harm in giving Calamity one too

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It'd be nice if we did it in a bit more of a unique way

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but, wishful thinking

hollow idol Sep 13, 2019, 8:24 PM

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or at the very least, even though its useless by that point in the game, draedon’s forge

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whats the latest you even need them anyways

hollow shell Sep 13, 2019, 8:25 PM

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Godly Soul Artifact

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which is
at the end of the game

hollow idol Sep 13, 2019, 8:27 PM

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sweating

queen delta Sep 13, 2019, 8:37 PM

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Perhaps change crystal ball to be the same

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Anything crafted at demon altar could also be crafted at a crystal ball

hollow shell Sep 13, 2019, 8:41 PM

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There is a mod that does that

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I don't know what mod does that
but I know I've seen it in playthroughs of mine

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We could do it too but iunno how that'd interact with the existing one

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(it'd probably be fine)

bright mountain Sep 13, 2019, 9:32 PM

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I got 90 reactions now what

frail mantle Sep 13, 2019, 9:32 PM

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wait

bright mountain Sep 13, 2019, 9:32 PM

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k

void kelp Sep 13, 2019, 10:02 PM

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fargo's lets crystal balls act as demon altars

elfin maple Sep 13, 2019, 10:03 PM

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lots of mods add exactly that

sand umbra Sep 13, 2019, 10:14 PM

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"other mods already add [xyz thing]" isn't really a fair counterargument so like
hueh

hollow saffron Sep 13, 2019, 10:21 PM

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@ashen warren hello other rogue weapons exist

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post-desert scourge you can get he seafoam bomb which will carry you to post-skeletron

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then you get the lionfish until you obtain the spear of paeolith in hardmode

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plus rogue expansion is already been planned out

hollow shell Sep 13, 2019, 10:40 PM

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What's wrong with there being a gap in this specific weapon line

hollow idol Sep 13, 2019, 10:53 PM

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People just really like crystalline ig

hollow turret Sep 13, 2019, 10:53 PM

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crystalline is hot the way it is

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has large range for a rogue weapon at its stage of game and decent dmg

queen sail Sep 13, 2019, 11:43 PM

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Also looks cool

placid moth Sep 14, 2019, 12:11 AM

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Prismalline doesn't do good damage if you are too close to targets, because the splitting only occurs a distance away.

proven tide Sep 14, 2019, 12:56 AM

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Prismalline is the best weapon in the line

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Quasar is a joke, Crystalline is iconic but hard to aim and falls short of its own status, Shattered Sun is divisive regarding whether it's good or underwhelming but fun, and Radiant Star is outclassed by other weapons at the same point in the game

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Prismalline is the most solid entry in the set

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Don't hurt my boy >:C

lost agate Sep 14, 2019, 1:01 AM

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Crystalline is very damn strong tho?

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Its like the absolute best for EoC

proven tide Sep 14, 2019, 1:10 AM

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Yees

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But who wants to aim

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When you can fill half your screen with projectiles

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~~or commit norfleet and fill it all with one projectile~~

lost agate Sep 14, 2019, 1:13 AM

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... fill your screen with what projectiles?

zenith hazel Sep 14, 2019, 1:13 AM

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what’s wrong with aiming?

lost agate Sep 14, 2019, 1:13 AM

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We are talking pre hardmode, whatever youre using to fill your screen with projectiles

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Also,the people who want to aim often get better dps

hearty yew Sep 14, 2019, 1:43 AM

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@ashen warren Don't worry about Radiant Star and Shattered Sun, they both get big buffs next patch.

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Prismalline is fine as is and didn't need any buffs

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So yes, the crystalline line is getting the love it deserves

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I don't think we need a late hardmode crystalline, there's already 4 weapons in the line

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I figured I just should let you know that we already looked at the crystalline line

hollow saffron Sep 14, 2019, 1:46 AM

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technically radiant star is late hardmode

dusty stirrup Sep 14, 2019, 1:48 AM

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He prolly just forgot the "pre-"

hollow saffron Sep 14, 2019, 1:57 AM

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oof

west prairie Sep 14, 2019, 3:10 AM

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profaned crucible is unholy as well as holy and thus should work as an altar

sand umbra Sep 14, 2019, 3:11 AM

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Okay but like with all due respect most renewable altars are obtainable way earlier than post-ML--

ashen warren Sep 14, 2019, 3:19 AM

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make a slime altar from sg tbh

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it's still an altar bc it's a god and you're pretty much done with phm

hollow shell Sep 14, 2019, 3:20 AM

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Not a bad idea

ashen warren Sep 14, 2019, 3:21 AM

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I'm burnt out

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So if anyone else wants to suggest that

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feel free

strong prism Sep 14, 2019, 4:57 AM

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it looks like my suggestion may be up for review, yay

hollow shell Sep 14, 2019, 5:00 AM

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Not yet
still needs a few more stars

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Gettin there, though

strong prism Sep 14, 2019, 5:11 AM

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that's why i said "may be" :p

warm tinsel Sep 14, 2019, 10:24 AM

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I like the altar idea, I often need one and I'm not keen to travel to the crimson

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I had to make a base above one once

faint needle Sep 14, 2019, 10:41 AM

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What happened to suggestions with blue marks that reached 90 stars?

night cradle Sep 14, 2019, 10:41 AM

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they simply don't get sent I believe?

frail mantle Sep 14, 2019, 10:46 AM

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afaik bluechecked suggestions that reach 90 stars are added to the Frequently Suggested section of the Don'ts doc

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not sure

faint needle Sep 14, 2019, 10:48 AM

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Ah

distant gyro Sep 14, 2019, 12:09 PM

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if it doesn't get accepted then it gets a 🚫 ? If that's what you mean

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@lethal roost

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refer to the pins taxevasion

quiet abyss Sep 14, 2019, 12:10 PM

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^

📎 unknown.png

fierce hedge Sep 14, 2019, 12:24 PM

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calawheeze

lethal roost Sep 14, 2019, 12:36 PM

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Oh

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Big brain moment

hollow saffron Sep 14, 2019, 12:54 PM

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daily reminder that you need to check the pins

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also https://discordapp.com/channels/225030931008847874/263382359397761025/618781666722316332

young fog Sep 14, 2019, 3:25 PM

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there already is iirc

hollow shell Sep 14, 2019, 3:26 PM

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@full compass We do indeed do that. The "weapons" page is separated into many sections, and each individual weapon page has a Categories section at the bottom, which each link to a page showing weapons with the same category

full compass Sep 14, 2019, 3:26 PM

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i see, thank you ^^

bright mountain Sep 14, 2019, 4:48 PM

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https://discordapp.com/channels/225030931008847874/263382359397761025/621560912129818644
When is this supoosed to get "delivered"

void kelp Sep 14, 2019, 4:49 PM

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well, it’s a manual process

hollow shell Sep 14, 2019, 4:49 PM

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I can do it I guess

void kelp Sep 14, 2019, 4:50 PM

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so whenever lurkalto or someone else who can see it can send it

placid moth Sep 14, 2019, 5:01 PM

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https://docs.google.com/document/d/1cLOxHSsICK86CFKripTFmdNt3Sh2_qhZ7rtW1jsKdIY/edit?usp=sharing

Google Docs

Changes to Summoner Tarragon and Bloodflare Armors

Minion Damage Boost (with set bonuses) :Stardust : 66%Tarragon : 66% (76% if at full HP)Bloodflare : 71% (86% if >90% HP) Minion Slots Boost :Stardust : 5Tarragon : 3 (5 if at full HP) Bloodflare : 3 Set Bonuses :+ Tarragon has a damaging life aura while Bloodflare su...

vocal grotto Sep 14, 2019, 5:02 PM

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Is Merk even able to send it? I'm honestly not sure.

hollow shell Sep 14, 2019, 5:02 PM

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Yeah he's been doing it for months

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Kinda became the main suggestion sender

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alongside Achilles and Pixl

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~~it's nice that it's not just me alone lmao~~

placid moth Sep 14, 2019, 5:04 PM

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~~feedback plz~~

hollow shell Sep 14, 2019, 5:04 PM

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What are you suggesting

void kelp Sep 14, 2019, 5:05 PM

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imo the whole conditional minion slots thing needs to be changed since it causes a lot of bugs

hollow shell Sep 14, 2019, 5:05 PM

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I can't tell if you're listing their current function or if these are things you want

void kelp Sep 14, 2019, 5:05 PM

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@rain estuary can you give examples?

hollow shell Sep 14, 2019, 5:05 PM

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@rain estuary I recommend more professional language or people are just going to dismiss you for being rude

placid moth Sep 14, 2019, 5:06 PM

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I am trying to list all the stats down and doing a comparison

hollow shell Sep 14, 2019, 5:06 PM

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You put your reason before the suggestion?

faint needle Sep 14, 2019, 5:07 PM

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I mean, what hitboxes are so shit tho?

placid moth Sep 14, 2019, 5:07 PM

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Uh, yes ?

hollow shell Sep 14, 2019, 5:07 PM

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I mean it kinda makes sense with the way you're wording it

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s'just
unconventional

placid moth Sep 14, 2019, 5:07 PM

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perhaps.

hollow saffron Sep 14, 2019, 5:09 PM

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how are the hitboxes bad what

hollow shell Sep 14, 2019, 5:09 PM

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Removing the HP-based minion slot changes are a good idea

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@placid moth Have a summary of the suggestion in the message, alongside the link

placid moth Sep 14, 2019, 5:10 PM

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Ah, okay.

rain estuary Sep 14, 2019, 5:10 PM

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Leviathan has the worst hitbox of the entire mod
All of Astrum Aureus' projectiles have hitboxes larger than them.

void kelp Sep 14, 2019, 5:11 PM

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you should probably give examples in your suggestion, as well as fix up the language since it's hard to think the suggestion is serious

hollow shell Sep 14, 2019, 5:11 PM

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Yeah

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^

rain estuary Sep 14, 2019, 5:11 PM

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Yeah, I kinda think my wording is not great.

void kelp Sep 14, 2019, 5:12 PM

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your frustration is understandable though!

hollow shell Sep 14, 2019, 5:12 PM

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Don't use the word "shitboxes", remove the "fucking"s, and don't compare it to Tremor

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Try to seem like you're being constructive and not just complaining

rain estuary Sep 14, 2019, 5:12 PM

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I can make a better one.

hollow shell Sep 14, 2019, 5:13 PM

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Golem rework in Rev+ is coming, Beans

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It's in #changelogs

rain estuary Sep 14, 2019, 5:14 PM

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Ah, I see.

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I'm not on this server a lot.

tiny rose Sep 14, 2019, 5:14 PM

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It will be amaaaziiiing!

hollow shell Sep 14, 2019, 5:14 PM

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It'll sure be something

void kelp Sep 14, 2019, 5:14 PM

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dw fab's changelog was very vague

queen delta Sep 14, 2019, 5:15 PM

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Usually vague = big surprises

hollow saffron Sep 14, 2019, 5:17 PM

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@rain estuary why not give some sort of addition/change to the boss to make it harder

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you seem kinda salty the way you're suggesting stuff

hollow shell Sep 14, 2019, 5:18 PM

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Doesn't matter anyway

rain estuary Sep 14, 2019, 5:21 PM

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Here's my idea:
Have Golem start as normal, except you can't attack the arms. And once you "destroy" the head, it becomes quad-pedal and start crawling around the temple. It's at this point you carved to look like a lihzahrd. It then flees temporarily until noon the next day, doesn't matter where you are.
It retains all attacks of normal Golem, but now it can create beams of sunlight that are able to go through ground.

hollow shell Sep 14, 2019, 5:22 PM

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Jesus

placid moth Sep 14, 2019, 5:22 PM

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What ?

hollow shell Sep 14, 2019, 5:22 PM

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I don't think Calamity is able to do that

hollow saffron Sep 14, 2019, 5:27 PM

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bro @rain estuary this is a mod for terraria, not the freaking mayhem war by hhyper

hollow shell Sep 14, 2019, 5:27 PM

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what

hollow saffron Sep 14, 2019, 5:28 PM

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i feel like golem should start normal, but when it jumps/the fists punch the ground, it causes a small quake like the ravager ones

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@hollow shell look up "the mayhem war geometry dash"

radiant meadow Sep 14, 2019, 5:28 PM

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golem rev+ rework is planned already

hollow saffron Sep 14, 2019, 5:28 PM

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that too^

hollow shell Sep 14, 2019, 5:32 PM

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I don't think that's the most apt comparison

hollow saffron Sep 14, 2019, 5:33 PM

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imean if you compare it to a normal geometry dash bossfight

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it's so far above it

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which is what i mean, in terms of complexity for a late hardmode boss

hollow shell Sep 14, 2019, 5:36 PM

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ok

lost agate Sep 14, 2019, 5:49 PM

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No one is ready for new golem iirc smugyon

queen delta Sep 14, 2019, 5:52 PM

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Golem starting at p2 just sounds boring

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Since p2 is almost just as easy as p1

lost agate Sep 14, 2019, 5:52 PM

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Ye

hearty yew Sep 14, 2019, 5:56 PM

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@placid moth honestly a LOT of the post ML armors (basically all except Auric) need better effects. a lot of them are super underwhelming compared to the lunar armors.

though yes, the summoner sets are in DIRE need of change because any effect that removes summoner slots dynamically is super ugly in practice

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@rain estuary Don't worry. Seriously, don't. I can ASSURE you Golem is handled.

opal barn Sep 14, 2019, 5:58 PM

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I'm just gonna delete that suggestion since a golem rework is already done

hollow shell Sep 14, 2019, 5:59 PM

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Hm.

hollow saffron Sep 14, 2019, 6:00 PM

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wtf embed link

hollow shell Sep 14, 2019, 6:01 PM

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This emote sounds like a lot of work to use and prolly won't get used a lot

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The suggestions that are "we will implement this" are usually implemented on like, the same day they get sent
because those ones are usually quite easy to implement

hollow saffron Sep 14, 2019, 6:02 PM

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ah ok

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what about ones that take longer to implement

civic pond Sep 14, 2019, 6:03 PM

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Honestly this would be great

radiant meadow Sep 14, 2019, 6:03 PM

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a lot of them aren't really set in stone

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I can only think of like 2 or 3 suggestions that are planned to be implemented

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and they are like 5 months old or something

hollow saffron Sep 14, 2019, 6:04 PM

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oof

radiant meadow Sep 14, 2019, 6:04 PM

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so said reaction wouldn't really be helpful

hollow shell Sep 14, 2019, 6:04 PM

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We don't have a lot of ones that take long to implement
Any major new stuff is usually already planned, or conflicts with stuff we already have planned

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and yeah

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The last few months of suggestions that were implemented were all easy changes

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and the big ones that haven't been implemented but were planned to
haven't been implemented yet, and are from a long time ago

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because other priorities came first, like the rogue update

west prairie Sep 14, 2019, 7:09 PM

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@hearty yew I find the bloodflare summoner effect kinda lackluster personally, the three mines are just sorta... there

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If they exploded into tendrils or maybe did damage while they were over an enemy like an orbital that would at least be interesting

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I’d lean towards orbital

hollow shell Sep 14, 2019, 7:11 PM

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on top of that, maybe their rotation could depend on your horizontal (or vertical) speed so you could pause it and keep it on an enemy for a moment

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that'd be interestng

west prairie Sep 14, 2019, 7:13 PM

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Ooh, maybe it starts with 2 orbitals and if it deals enough damage within a short period of time it adds more to the circle up to 4

hollow shell Sep 14, 2019, 7:14 PM

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That could be annoying
because making the circle have 3 orbitals from 2, and 4 from 3, would mean that they would get repositioned
so you couldn't keep the orbital(s) on the enemy/enemies while it transitions

west prairie Sep 14, 2019, 7:14 PM

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Hm, maybe make it like electron orbitals where it adds a second outer ring

hollow shell Sep 14, 2019, 7:14 PM

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heh

west prairie Sep 14, 2019, 7:15 PM

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“Why tf my armor sp3 hybridizing”

hollow shell Sep 14, 2019, 7:15 PM

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if we wanted it to be more accurate to electron orbitals, the Polter mines wouldn't exist in any one place at a time, but instead might be attacking any enemy in a radius around you

hearty yew Sep 14, 2019, 7:16 PM

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that sounds fun actually

west prairie Sep 14, 2019, 7:16 PM

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LUL

hearty yew Sep 14, 2019, 7:16 PM

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stupid, but fun

hollow shell Sep 14, 2019, 7:16 PM

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Get ready to program superpositions, Ozz

west prairie Sep 14, 2019, 7:16 PM

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Honestly the increasing orbital idea could work if done correctly

void kelp Sep 14, 2019, 7:17 PM

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it could be doing something, but the only way to know for sure is to observe it

hollow shell Sep 14, 2019, 7:17 PM

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It'd be more likely to get implemented if you just suggested that they deal DoT instead of explode

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and maybe you could control the rotation

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Anything too complex will just get ignored 😔

west prairie Sep 14, 2019, 7:17 PM

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Unless ozz decides he wants it too

hollow shell Sep 14, 2019, 7:18 PM

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Indeed

frail mantle Sep 14, 2019, 7:20 PM

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iirc i once suggested that you could control the distance between yourself and the orbs

hollow shell Sep 14, 2019, 7:21 PM

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Press left and right to rotate it (like a wheel as you move)
press up and down to change its distance from you

maximum control

frail mantle Sep 14, 2019, 7:21 PM

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like, they stayed close to you and pressing Armor Set Bonus would make them go further out

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yea

hollow shell Sep 14, 2019, 7:21 PM

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That works too

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Less control but also less unintentional movement

tired haven Sep 14, 2019, 7:23 PM

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You could make it almost as much control by making radius match the current cursor position when pressing the set key

hollow shell Sep 14, 2019, 7:23 PM

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Oh shit

smoky wagon Sep 14, 2019, 7:24 PM

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make them block shots and turn them into a cube of meat taxevasion

hollow shell Sep 14, 2019, 7:25 PM

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Exploding after dealing enough damage would be cool
that way they can still be "mines"

west prairie Sep 14, 2019, 7:25 PM

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Nah it’s more like one of the fly orbitals guwa

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Inb4 bloodflare is just the solar system challenge

hollow shell Sep 14, 2019, 7:26 PM

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Astral Armor rework HyperFailure

west prairie Sep 14, 2019, 7:28 PM

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Tbh make summon weapons also summon a small star minion that gains damage the more minions you have with astral armor, Luxor’s gift proves we have the technology

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It’d make it less useless for summoners

void kelp Sep 14, 2019, 7:29 PM

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friendly stargazers :0

west prairie Sep 14, 2019, 7:29 PM

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... deus probes

void kelp Sep 14, 2019, 7:31 PM

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!! Orbiting probes

west prairie Sep 14, 2019, 7:32 PM

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Just make yourself a mine trailing nightmare like deus

hollow shell Sep 14, 2019, 7:32 PM

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There should be an Astral upgrade to Abyssal Tome which fires a bunch of lingering mines like Deus

west prairie Sep 14, 2019, 7:32 PM

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Astrageldon tome

hollow shell Sep 14, 2019, 7:32 PM

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oof

fervent zealot Sep 14, 2019, 7:33 PM

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sorry, that's -1 brain point for you

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but yes lingering mine tome with slight homing would actually be godly

hollow shell Sep 14, 2019, 7:33 PM

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Slight homing probably not needed considering it'd be a big shotgun spread

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hard to miss

fervent zealot Sep 14, 2019, 7:34 PM

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hard to miss, but lingering projectiles that go nowhere are a recipe for disaster

hollow shell Sep 14, 2019, 7:34 PM

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They won't last forever

fervent zealot Sep 14, 2019, 7:34 PM

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not enough homing to matter on the firing, but enough homing so that missed shots aren't worthless

west prairie Sep 14, 2019, 7:36 PM

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Honestly an astral tome made from a slime themed tome is too similar to astrageldon for me to not make the joke

bright mountain Sep 14, 2019, 9:17 PM

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when a suggestion gets "delivered" how long does it take to either get implimented or denied

terse sundial Sep 14, 2019, 9:26 PM

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depends really

opal barn Sep 14, 2019, 9:26 PM

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usually it's a couple of minutes for a suggestion to get approved or denied

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or just ignored

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depends on what people are online

bright mountain Sep 14, 2019, 9:28 PM

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ah ok

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effect?

sand umbra Sep 14, 2019, 9:34 PM

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also boss suggestions as a whole are a straight don't iirc

vocal grotto Sep 14, 2019, 9:35 PM

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^

ashen warren Sep 14, 2019, 10:07 PM

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~~If you want more bosses just play with other mods~~

vocal grotto Sep 14, 2019, 10:14 PM

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Or make your own boss

sand umbra Sep 14, 2019, 10:15 PM

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~~Making your own boss is the superior move because then you can decide how hard it is and where it is in progression hue--~~

balmy coyote Sep 14, 2019, 10:16 PM

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Boost at the cost of FPS, basically

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Meh

frail mantle Sep 14, 2019, 10:24 PM

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Cute Fishron gaining the speed boost during rain sounds op tbh

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i mean, one click of the Torrential Tear=15% more damage and 86 mph max speed

terse sundial Sep 14, 2019, 10:26 PM

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having no downside is the problem

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I think it would be nice, but it's too easy

fervent zealot Sep 14, 2019, 10:27 PM

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the downside is rain hurts fps

gusty geode Sep 14, 2019, 10:27 PM

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It does?

sand umbra Sep 14, 2019, 10:27 PM

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Cute Fishron buff for rain only applies if the Torrential Tear hasn't been used in the last ten minutes, and it's Heavy Rain specifically.

...please tell me there's a way to check for that second one.

fervent zealot Sep 14, 2019, 10:27 PM

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considering cloud elementals do, yes

sand umbra Sep 14, 2019, 10:28 PM

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~~It also does not apply under rain if Storm Weaver forced it in--~~

hollow shell Sep 14, 2019, 10:28 PM

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If the weather radio can check for heavy rain, then anything else can do

sand umbra Sep 14, 2019, 10:28 PM

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good, idea's possible then

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OmegaFailure

tired haven Sep 14, 2019, 10:40 PM

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Makes it too obscure to even bother ngl

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"oh yeah I'm gonna wait for a natural rain which is gonna also reach Heavy phase while using this one mount and also hopefully this type of rain doesn't end suddenly with me getting screwed up in result"

fervent zealot Sep 14, 2019, 10:42 PM

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it's still a nice boost sometimes

tired haven Sep 14, 2019, 10:43 PM

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I feel like just a limitation of first minute of rain as not being "strong" would be sufficient

civic pond Sep 14, 2019, 11:18 PM

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whats this?

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a suggestion similar to mine?

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o

queen sail Sep 14, 2019, 11:21 PM

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Rename Slag Magnum to Slagnum

Reason: I mean...is there really any reason it shouldn’t? It does fit it a bit more with its theme (and makes it a more of a pun). Also, it sorta rolls across the tongue better.

fervent zealot Sep 14, 2019, 11:22 PM

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congrats, you win suggestions

frail mantle Sep 14, 2019, 11:22 PM

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suggested before i think

queen sail Sep 14, 2019, 11:22 PM

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It was

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Not sure what happened to it though

civic pond Sep 14, 2019, 11:23 PM

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Why is this not implemented

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PensiveDoGCowboy

hollow shell Sep 14, 2019, 11:26 PM

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Hah it was January

civic pond Sep 14, 2019, 11:29 PM

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😔

queen sail Sep 14, 2019, 11:31 PM

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PensiveDoGCowboy

ashen warren Sep 14, 2019, 11:31 PM

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portabulb got in\

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despite my better wishes

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i dunno why this won't

queen sail Sep 14, 2019, 11:57 PM

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Specific item suggest

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HyperEthanJudge

hollow shell Sep 14, 2019, 11:57 PM

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Nice reference however it does break two rules

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No specifics
No reference for the sake of reference

sand umbra Sep 15, 2019, 12:16 AM

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~~wait what
did i miss something

please tell me i didn't miss a potential opportunity for a bad pun~~

hollow shell Sep 15, 2019, 12:16 AM

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Don't know why Dovahbear deleted that, it wasn't even in #suggestions-voting, it was here.

sand umbra Sep 15, 2019, 12:17 AM

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a

hollow shell Sep 15, 2019, 12:17 AM

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It was the Force'a'Nature from TF2

sand umbra Sep 15, 2019, 12:17 AM

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ah

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thinkies

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~~i've grown an enjoyment of digging through #suggestions-voting for ideas the past couple days, don't mind me~~

hollow shell Sep 15, 2019, 12:17 AM

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aight

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you do you

loud steeple Sep 15, 2019, 12:18 AM

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that would be stupidly fun the force a nature

fervent zealot Sep 15, 2019, 12:18 AM

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trying to get the force a nature added would be forced in nature

bright mountain Sep 15, 2019, 12:18 AM

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oh i scrolled all the way to december last year

fervent zealot Sep 15, 2019, 12:18 AM

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there you go, you get your bad wordplay tomas

sand umbra Sep 15, 2019, 12:18 AM

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.

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gdi

bright mountain Sep 15, 2019, 12:18 AM

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wait is turq a dev

hollow shell Sep 15, 2019, 12:19 AM

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Yknow what it would work because Dovah wanted it to be an RIV of the Boomstick

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which you find in the jungle

loud steeple Sep 15, 2019, 12:19 AM

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i mean,the hardest part would be the when fired you get nudged in direction coding

fervent zealot Sep 15, 2019, 12:19 AM

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there's no h because nobody's laughing

sand umbra Sep 15, 2019, 12:19 AM

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I mean, it wouldn't be that difficult, to be quite honest.

hollow shell Sep 15, 2019, 12:19 AM

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Not sure on Turq's dev status

fervent zealot Sep 15, 2019, 12:19 AM

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he's not, iirc

hollow shell Sep 15, 2019, 12:19 AM

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He used to be

sand umbra Sep 15, 2019, 12:20 AM

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Simply get the player firing the gun, nudge their velocities slightly in the direction opposite that they fired, and boom, done.

fervent zealot Sep 15, 2019, 12:20 AM

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he stepped down last i checked

loud steeple Sep 15, 2019, 12:20 AM

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tbh,i wouldnt mind the fan to be added to the mod

hollow shell Sep 15, 2019, 12:20 AM

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But
can't suggest it

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If Thomas wants to do it on his own then more power to him

queen sail Sep 15, 2019, 12:20 AM

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Turq’s busy with Varia and the Evil Earthquake remaster iirc

void kelp Sep 15, 2019, 1:53 AM

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he also resigned from being calamity dev yeah

viscid tiger Sep 15, 2019, 7:47 AM

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Who even uses star cannon?

civic rampart Sep 15, 2019, 7:48 AM

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i once used it in masomode

viscid tiger Sep 15, 2019, 7:48 AM

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Was it really so broken though?

brazen bramble Sep 15, 2019, 7:48 AM

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@fierce hedge there's a reason why the star cannon is powerful and that's because its ammo is hard to get

The same goes for a coin gun with platinum coins or the special limited ammo weapons like hydra

viscid tiger Sep 15, 2019, 7:49 AM

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Meteor stuff is post EOW in nohits anyway, right?

placid moth Sep 15, 2019, 7:49 AM

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I forgot that the star cannon existed

zenith hazel Sep 15, 2019, 7:49 AM

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well yes and no

viscid tiger Sep 15, 2019, 7:49 AM

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What's the no?

zenith hazel Sep 15, 2019, 7:49 AM

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https://images-ext-2.discordapp.net/external/w1inJv1YPhDhyOFBiXM8Nz8pTfr9cd4JDDpzEGgpZXg/https/i.gyazo.com/thumb/1200/4ba724155c42ab86094af3e46b07a8de-png.jpg

viscid tiger Sep 15, 2019, 7:50 AM

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(I'm not trying to be contentious, just genuinely curious)

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Ah, I see

fierce hedge Sep 15, 2019, 7:50 AM

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Oh well. Iguess you're right. I forgot about the star collecting

zenith hazel Sep 15, 2019, 7:50 AM

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byeah, the star cannon is already somewhat balanced by the ludicrous ammo

fierce hedge Sep 15, 2019, 7:50 AM

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I'll remove the suggestion since i get that now

brazen bramble Sep 15, 2019, 7:51 AM

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It's recommended to post a suggestion here first to get the best out if it

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And also to bring up problems

viscid tiger Sep 15, 2019, 7:52 AM

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Is coin gun broken too?

zenith hazel Sep 15, 2019, 7:52 AM

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coin gun is in the same field as star cannon in terms of usefulness

distant gyro Sep 15, 2019, 7:52 AM

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coin gun has capacities to carry to post-providence at the condition you have plat coins to supply it

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nice balance

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taxevasion

zenith hazel Sep 15, 2019, 7:52 AM

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extremely powerful if paired with good ammo, but a really small niche

viscid tiger Sep 15, 2019, 7:57 AM

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Banned in nohits, then?

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Or just implied with the mnl?

distant gyro Sep 15, 2019, 7:58 AM

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pretty sure it was no exception ban at some point (that's lifted now)
anyways that's offtopic already; I think the rest you can look it up yourself in the doc

topaz dirge Sep 15, 2019, 1:22 PM

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Btw. Its super easy to stack up on platinum with Armageddon enabled

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Surprisingly the desert scourge is amazing for this

void kelp Sep 15, 2019, 1:23 PM

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that’s well-known yes

topaz dirge Sep 15, 2019, 1:24 PM

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I felt so smart when I discovered it out on my own

civic pond Sep 15, 2019, 6:17 PM

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now hol up..

sand umbra Sep 15, 2019, 6:18 PM

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peepodetective

hollow shell Sep 15, 2019, 6:19 PM

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I feel like a better solution would be to make Brimstone Slag drop from crag enemies, so it's renewable

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Rather than fucking like 1/4 or 1/3 of the Underworld

frail mantle Sep 15, 2019, 6:19 PM

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Isn’t Brimslag craftable

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Or am I just dumb

hollow shell Sep 15, 2019, 6:19 PM

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It is not

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you might be thinking of Cinderplate
or Smooth Slag

frail mantle Sep 15, 2019, 6:20 PM

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Probably yea

lost agate Sep 15, 2019, 6:20 PM

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Idea

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20 stone + 1 essence of chaos = 20 brimstone slag

sand umbra Sep 15, 2019, 6:21 PM

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Idea:

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BRIMMY BOX

(it's like provi's box but brimstone slag and small like WoF's)

BRIMMY BOX

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thinkies

fervent zealot Sep 15, 2019, 6:21 PM

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honestly brim crag being way larger would be nice

sand umbra Sep 15, 2019, 6:22 PM

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Just a random idea.

lost agate Sep 15, 2019, 6:22 PM

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Or 20 ash and essence of chaos

fervent zealot Sep 15, 2019, 6:22 PM

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opens up the door for many actually cool things in the biome

civic pond Sep 15, 2019, 6:22 PM

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brimstone crag actually feels strangely small

sand umbra Sep 15, 2019, 6:22 PM

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The Crags feel like

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really small.

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And not too terribly complex (or really, significant) either, it's just a bunch of simple houses with some chests and a really fat rectangle of Brimstone Slag. You go there to fight one boss, once in early Hardmode and once post-Provi, and never look at it again.

civic pond Sep 15, 2019, 6:23 PM

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~~Isn't crag being expanded on later anyways?~~

sand umbra Sep 15, 2019, 6:23 PM

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Just more things to why the inevitable Brimstone Crag update can't come soon enough, I suppose. HDfailure

fervent zealot Sep 15, 2019, 6:24 PM

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it could really do with being a fourth or fifth of the underworld

lost agate Sep 15, 2019, 6:24 PM

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This is like the 10th time crags is mentioned to fell empty and it always boils down to "shit is being worked on" thOiNk

civic pond Sep 15, 2019, 6:24 PM

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taxevasion

novel pebble Sep 15, 2019, 6:26 PM

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Ah yes 3 enemies and one boss

devout lava Sep 15, 2019, 6:29 PM

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Yay, people agree with me :3

sand umbra Sep 15, 2019, 6:29 PM

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I would do something for Crags but that implies I have any ideas for things for Crags in the first place.

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megathink

civic pond Sep 15, 2019, 6:29 PM

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thomas

sand umbra Sep 15, 2019, 6:29 PM

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a

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what

civic pond Sep 15, 2019, 6:30 PM

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~~you're working on too many things at once you libtard~~

sand umbra Sep 15, 2019, 6:30 PM

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~~i will DESTROY you with FACTS and LOGIC my guy, i'm working on just enough at once~~

devout lava Sep 15, 2019, 6:30 PM

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📎 Capture_2019-09-15_00_11_55.png

civic pond Sep 15, 2019, 6:30 PM

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taxevasion

devout lava Sep 15, 2019, 6:30 PM

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Like my base takes up 3/4 of the biome
Im not joking
It wouldve taken 2/4 but i had to remove 1/4 for the furniture

civic pond Sep 15, 2019, 6:30 PM

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Anyways, im sure crag will be worked on eventually

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key word being eventually

fervent zealot Sep 15, 2019, 6:31 PM

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though tbh crags have already come far from what they used to be

devout lava Sep 15, 2019, 6:31 PM

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Also thank god for tranquility candles, makes this place livable with the decreased spawn rates

fervent zealot Sep 15, 2019, 6:32 PM

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brim slag didn't used to be obtainable and there was no furniture

civic pond Sep 15, 2019, 6:32 PM

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question.

fervent zealot Sep 15, 2019, 6:32 PM

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the only way to make the biome was with charred ore

civic pond Sep 15, 2019, 6:32 PM

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Why does ashen chest exist again?

devout lava Sep 15, 2019, 6:32 PM

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Now it has 2 sets of furniture
Ashen and ancient (a destroyed version of ashen)

fervent zealot Sep 15, 2019, 6:33 PM

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ashen chest exists because having a complete set of furniture is important

devout lava Sep 15, 2019, 6:33 PM

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Ashen id use to recreate the civilization

Ancient youd use to create the destroyed civilization

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AND THERE IS NO TOILET

fervent zealot Sep 15, 2019, 6:34 PM

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i don't think an ancient society of non humans needs a toilet tbh

devout lava Sep 15, 2019, 6:34 PM

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I NEED ONE FOR THE BATHROOM

ashen warren Sep 15, 2019, 6:36 PM

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Just get an iron toilet and dark red paint

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HyperFailure

devout lava Sep 15, 2019, 6:40 PM

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Also explain this to me
WHY is the astral biome bigger than the brimstone crag
Even though its the most uselessbiome ever, with only stardust and astral ore being used (but you can skip the armour anyway)
The biome expands underground but has nothing to offer, plus, it doesnt even have a furniture set
I thought the trees astralized could be used to make some cool furniture but no it isnt. The crag on the other hand has lots more items and a boss that can only be spawned there and has 2 sets of furniture . You go to it 10× more than the astral
But, is probs the smallest calamity biome in the mod

I do hope for Crag Justice

west prairie Sep 15, 2019, 6:40 PM

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tbh, just make the crags larger, have the area currently taken up by crags stay the same, and have the expanded area be more like the old one

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astral is gonna get more stuff

devout lava Sep 15, 2019, 6:41 PM

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I hope the astral then makes up for the amount of space it takes

queen sail Sep 15, 2019, 6:41 PM

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Browsing #suggestions-voting to check out for any new shit
Ashen Toilet
:echthink:

novel pebble Sep 15, 2019, 6:41 PM

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Crag has nothing unique unlike Astral

queen sail Sep 15, 2019, 6:42 PM

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Demons gotta remember to take a shit, kids

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HDfailure

civic pond Sep 15, 2019, 6:42 PM

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they have lava

novel pebble Sep 15, 2019, 6:42 PM

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It's biggest point, Brimmy, might as well be a Hell boss instead

civic pond Sep 15, 2019, 6:42 PM

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smh

devout lava Sep 15, 2019, 6:42 PM

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Astral ore, star dust.....

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Astral enemies

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.....

novel pebble Sep 15, 2019, 6:42 PM

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It has 2 bosses, many astral enemies, and it make sense

queen sail Sep 15, 2019, 6:42 PM

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@novel pebble Crags revamp is planned later in the future

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Iirc

devout lava Sep 15, 2019, 6:42 PM

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But you can fight the bosses anywhere

queen sail Sep 15, 2019, 6:42 PM

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The devs agree it’s pretty lackluster so they’re planning to go redo it sometime

ashen warren Sep 15, 2019, 6:43 PM

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hey is crags could spawn in it's own arena that'd be great, thanks

fervent zealot Sep 15, 2019, 6:43 PM

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astral needs help and so does crags

novel pebble Sep 15, 2019, 6:43 PM

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Crag needs more help than anything else

queen sail Sep 15, 2019, 6:43 PM

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Their plans were to give aureus and deus a proper drop pool and make the crags yknow

devout lava Sep 15, 2019, 6:43 PM

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Which makes it less unique for how good it looks
And pls
I want astral wood furniture, like i wish you can grow trees on the astral dirt

queen sail Sep 15, 2019, 6:43 PM

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More than a brimmy arena

devout lava Sep 15, 2019, 6:44 PM

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Crag Justice
My waifu doesnt have to die for nothing

hollow shell Sep 15, 2019, 6:44 PM

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Both biomes are getting expanded

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Crag moreso than Astral

ashen warren Sep 15, 2019, 6:44 PM

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thanks

hollow shell Sep 15, 2019, 6:44 PM

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cuz Astral already has a bit

ashen warren Sep 15, 2019, 6:44 PM

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when is this planned?

hollow shell Sep 15, 2019, 6:45 PM

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In the future

ashen warren Sep 15, 2019, 6:45 PM

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more specifically?

devout lava Sep 15, 2019, 6:45 PM

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If astral biome doesnt use the amount of space it takes up when it lands, thats just wasted potential

hollow shell Sep 15, 2019, 6:45 PM

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Not for a while
Like, next major update is Rogue and then we'll have another major update after that, and then we'll probably be doing Crag stuff

devout lava Sep 15, 2019, 6:45 PM

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Ah,k then

hollow shell Sep 15, 2019, 6:46 PM

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There could be some lil expansions in there though
like how some rogue content kinda dripped into recent updates

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Galaxy Smasher, Scarlet Devil, etc

ashen warren Sep 15, 2019, 6:46 PM

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coolio

novel pebble Sep 15, 2019, 6:46 PM

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The major update after Rogue is Draedon, right?

queen sail Sep 15, 2019, 6:46 PM

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Yep

devout lava Sep 15, 2019, 6:46 PM

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Also, add this to the list
Ashen toilet, profained toilet, Void toilet.....k

queen sail Sep 15, 2019, 6:47 PM

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We get mech boss rematches plus him so we’re probably in for something

devout lava Sep 15, 2019, 6:50 PM

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Reason why im defending Crag is because the furniture also has this very cool item
Its the brimstone monolith, which has a floating red eye on top Which actually follows the players movements
They mustve put in alot of effort for a small detail like that, with all the other furniture having eyes with some thats also animated
But yet its underrated and nobody knows about it

fervent zealot Sep 15, 2019, 6:51 PM

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i was the og crag man, because i literally discovered h ow to artificially make crags before brim slag was obtainable

hollow shell Sep 15, 2019, 6:51 PM

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I didn't know it actually looked at you

devout lava Sep 15, 2019, 6:51 PM

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Its like the eye of soaran (or something like that)

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Heck, theres an ancient version of it in the second set of furniture
With the eye spazzing and glitching out as if it was damaged

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So many cool items but yet nobody uses

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And also, have the void stone in the top and bottom layers of the abyss
Cause watcha gonna do with abyss gravel
Void stone is used to make the abyss furniture set
Which looks very cool
And its probs the hardest set of furniture to obtain in the mod
Requires you to go to the deeper paet of the abyss and collect the voidstone that makes up that deeper area
You need alot of this to make a good base which makes it harder since its the deepest levels

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AND
My biggest problem
It is (in my opinion) horrible to have the (profaned rune, void) slab blocks with the slab wall
The wall looks like the block which makes it hard to see and looks bad
I mix the smooth stone with the slabs to make it look better
Maybe abit of an update to the texture would be nice

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Heck, i think the furniture needs a look at and changed abit

hollow shell Sep 15, 2019, 6:58 PM

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Why wouldn't the wall look like the block

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Thought that was the point

devout lava Sep 15, 2019, 6:58 PM

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I was unable to tell what was wall and block

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They do not mix even though they should

hollow shell Sep 15, 2019, 6:59 PM

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There's a pretty significant brightness difference

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but, I personally haven't used them in-game
so maybe they don't look as distinct in practice

devout lava Sep 15, 2019, 7:02 PM

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Use them, make a box of voidstone slab and add the wall @hollow shell

hollow shell Sep 15, 2019, 7:03 PM

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Ah Voidstone yeah that's pretty much the same

devout lava Sep 15, 2019, 7:03 PM

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I have the slab blocks and smooth void stone walls, makes it actually nice

hollow shell Sep 15, 2019, 7:03 PM

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I was looking at Profaned, which you also mentioned

devout lava Sep 15, 2019, 7:04 PM

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I maybe got mixed up with profaned slab and profaned rune block

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Can ya yeet the profaned rune block and wall out the game
Just my opinion, i dont like them

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The Ashen slab block is BEAUTIFUL
When you have them 2 blocks thicc, theres an actual symbol (God of war symbal) on the block, which i found amazing
This unique thing isnt implimented for the other slab blocks in the mod

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Tbh, a fuck ton of effort was put into the crag furniture

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Who ever made it, i wanna give them a hug and a kiss for their amazing work

hollow shell Sep 15, 2019, 7:11 PM

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(AlterraKira)
(Would be more fitting to do so in the art server tho)

queen delta Sep 15, 2019, 7:28 PM

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We do indeed need an ashen toilet

west prairie Sep 15, 2019, 7:37 PM

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@devout lava i actually redid profaned furniture for next update

jovial spire Sep 15, 2019, 8:42 PM

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exo toilets is what we really need

hollow saffron Sep 15, 2019, 9:14 PM

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~~exo furniture when~~

queen delta Sep 15, 2019, 9:31 PM

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Because... ?

terse sundial Sep 15, 2019, 9:32 PM

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PBGs sprite is only 4x4 in-game, it's actually 2x2 in the source iirc

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that's mainly to make it bigger/a Goliath

ashen warren Sep 15, 2019, 9:33 PM

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ye but h

hollow idol Sep 15, 2019, 9:33 PM

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https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/452649288435236864/622683966536679464/pbgflight.gif

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ye

civic pond Sep 15, 2019, 9:33 PM

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🤔

queen delta Sep 15, 2019, 9:33 PM

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meme suggestion?

civic pond Sep 15, 2019, 9:33 PM

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Im honestly not sure

ashen warren Sep 15, 2019, 9:33 PM

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No

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it isn't a meme suggestion

queen delta Sep 15, 2019, 9:33 PM

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"ye but h" gives me meme vibes

ashen warren Sep 15, 2019, 9:33 PM

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Someone should resprite the pbg

civic pond Sep 15, 2019, 9:33 PM

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:bruh:

ashen warren Sep 15, 2019, 9:33 PM

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doesn't it need a "why?"

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you just put "reduce size"

terse sundial Sep 15, 2019, 9:34 PM

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A PBG resprite may come eventually

fervent zealot Sep 15, 2019, 9:34 PM

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so basically you want it to be the same size but instead of 4x4 you want it to be a 2x2 that's detailed to the size of the current

ashen warren Sep 15, 2019, 9:34 PM

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ok if that is what you want, say "I want a pbg resprite"

terse sundial Sep 15, 2019, 9:34 PM

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but for now, it's not happening

ashen warren Sep 15, 2019, 9:34 PM

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done

civic pond Sep 15, 2019, 9:34 PM

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consistency dab

terse sundial Sep 15, 2019, 9:35 PM

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I feel like more explanation on the post would make sense

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just "for consistency" doesn't seem like a good reason to me

queen delta Sep 15, 2019, 9:35 PM

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Yeah i dont get this suggestion at all

lost agate Sep 15, 2019, 9:37 PM

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Isnt there a resprite being worked on anyway?

civic pond Sep 15, 2019, 9:37 PM

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probably

hollow shell Sep 15, 2019, 9:38 PM

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There was

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but now there isn't

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So this suggestion is valid

ashen warren Sep 15, 2019, 9:38 PM

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There are like, 50 pbg sprites tbh

lost agate Sep 15, 2019, 9:39 PM

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Ah i see

ashen warren Sep 15, 2019, 9:39 PM

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Just none of them are used so we're stuck with this one

hollow shell Sep 15, 2019, 9:39 PM

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The big main one with the jet boosters can no longer be used because of drama situation

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there's been some new proposed designed a lil while back but no sprites yet

ashen warren Sep 15, 2019, 9:40 PM

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drama?

hollow shell Sep 15, 2019, 9:40 PM

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Yeah
Best not to go into detail

ashen warren Sep 15, 2019, 9:40 PM

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ouch

queen delta Sep 15, 2019, 9:57 PM

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Vanilla Mini-Bosses Rev+ Changes

Wyverns

Moves slightly faster
Grants immunity to debuffs that slow them down
Shoots fireballs at you, which has slight movement prediction
(Very cheese-able and easy to dodge)

Ice Golems

Lasers ignore blocks
Ignores blocks when shooting lasers
(They're way too cheese-able)

Sand Elementals

Shoots four sandnadoes instead of three
(Not much needs to change, as they're already quite strong)

Moths

Ignores blocks
(They pose no threat at all, but isn't that significant of a mini-boss)

Why should these changes happen?
Right now, vanilla mini-bosses are a bit too easy and don't feel like mini-bosses anymore besides the high health. These changes should make them more harder to fight, giving back the role of mini-bosses to them.

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Thoughts?

civic pond Sep 15, 2019, 9:58 PM

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i agree with just about everything except wyverns

ashen warren Sep 15, 2019, 10:00 PM

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wyverns should just have something other than charge directly at player

hollow saffron Sep 15, 2019, 10:00 PM

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wyverns should have another attack yeah

queen delta Sep 15, 2019, 10:01 PM

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Edited

hollow saffron Sep 15, 2019, 10:02 PM

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slight movement prediction?
Ah Doppio. Did I not give you the ability to use King Crimson's Epitaph?

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No seriously, how would that work

queen delta Sep 15, 2019, 10:03 PM

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Hmm now that i think about it

hoary basalt Sep 15, 2019, 10:03 PM

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that make wyvern little bit harder, but... can doge him easy probably

queen delta Sep 15, 2019, 10:04 PM

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Ok now he shoots fireballs at you

hoary basalt Sep 15, 2019, 10:04 PM

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LUL

hollow saffron Sep 15, 2019, 10:04 PM

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hm

queen delta Sep 15, 2019, 10:05 PM

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But he has slight prediction so if you jump up right before he shoots it, expect it to meet you

hollow saffron Sep 15, 2019, 10:05 PM

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I feel like wyverns should be able to shoot fire/poison/frost breath in rev+

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wyvern

radiant meadow Sep 15, 2019, 11:59 PM

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isn't yharon also a 4x4?

hollow shell Sep 16, 2019, 12:00 AM

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No.

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He may be scaled up in code but his source sprite is 2x2

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(actually it doesn't look like he has any scaling either)

frosty vortex Sep 16, 2019, 12:07 AM

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Wyverns do not need to be more annoying

queen delta Sep 16, 2019, 12:13 AM

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Wyverns are a joke tho

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I could face them with pre-boss gear easily

frosty vortex Sep 16, 2019, 12:18 AM

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They're super easy for sure but I don't need them wasting more of my time when I'm trying to do things in space

zealous ridge Sep 16, 2019, 1:30 AM

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Can destroyers lasers naturally go through blocks in calamity? I forgot if that was a thing rev+

ashen warren Sep 16, 2019, 1:30 AM

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It was iirc

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but it got removed

zealous ridge Sep 16, 2019, 1:31 AM

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Well in that case, might have to be careful about how the frost beams work in destroyers fight if the projectiles changes will carry over

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Unless they are different proj?

radiant meadow Sep 16, 2019, 1:43 AM

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ice golem and destroyer use the same projectile, yes

teal ibex Sep 16, 2019, 2:23 AM

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do NOT with that ice golem thing

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dsajkflasjlkfsajlsfdlka

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if you're doing that you're also making the lasers perfectly accurate

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or i will personally shrivel up and wither away

hollow saffron Sep 16, 2019, 2:23 AM

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do so then

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/effect give Hectique minecraft:wither 999999 255

ashen warren Sep 16, 2019, 2:24 AM

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idk, ice golems are incredibly easy to get

carmine stream Sep 16, 2019, 2:24 AM

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@hollow saffron I’d suggest using a different emote since the emote you chose looks like a cooking timer on ios

hollow saffron Sep 16, 2019, 2:24 AM

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lul

teal ibex Sep 16, 2019, 2:24 AM

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ice golems are pure rng

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they serve no function as an enemy other than a "get two minutes of slowness" lottery in the event a laser rng's you in the face

hollow saffron Sep 16, 2019, 2:25 AM

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the emote is entirely up to the mods(if its implemented)

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omg just dodge

teal ibex Sep 16, 2019, 2:25 AM

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so if we're going to make the ice golem different and more capable of doing so, get rid of the garbo rng spread and make it a consistent enemy

hollow saffron Sep 16, 2019, 2:25 AM

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"oMG jusT DODge"

teal ibex Sep 16, 2019, 2:25 AM

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haha, good meme

hollow saffron Sep 16, 2019, 2:26 AM

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besides, ice golems are too easily cheesed at the moment

teal ibex Sep 16, 2019, 2:26 AM

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yes i'm cool with them being an actual enemy, but if we're changing them to be worse, at least make them an actual enemy

hollow saffron Sep 16, 2019, 2:26 AM

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if you don't want to fight one, a magic mirror/recall potion should always be available in your hotbar

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or at least ask yat to make the laser spread more accurate

teal ibex Sep 16, 2019, 2:27 AM

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that was my request, yes hecticSip

hollow saffron Sep 16, 2019, 2:28 AM

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~~imeant ping @ Yatagarasu and make your request known~~

teal ibex Sep 16, 2019, 2:28 AM

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@queen delta hi please also make ice golems perfectly accurate thank you dearly

queen delta Sep 16, 2019, 2:29 AM

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hmm.... NO

hollow saffron Sep 16, 2019, 2:29 AM

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oof

queen delta Sep 16, 2019, 2:29 AM

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I want ice golems to be dangerous hellyes

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And they're more dangerous when they're not as predictable

teal ibex Sep 16, 2019, 2:29 AM

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why would you want rng difficulty instead of actually gameplay

hollow saffron Sep 16, 2019, 2:29 AM

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well then make a few more buffs to plaguebringers

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since they're easy ad

teal ibex Sep 16, 2019, 2:29 AM

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the conic rng literally just forces you to be further away and nothing more

queen delta Sep 16, 2019, 2:30 AM

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Plaguebringers are just annoying when you're grinding

hollow saffron Sep 16, 2019, 2:30 AM

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grinding for plague cell canisters

queen delta Sep 16, 2019, 2:30 AM

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Not everything has to be accurate ech