#suggestions-discussion
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so those two posts are basically The Collapse Of The Suggestions Chat In ~3000 Characters
There is like, no way its gonna be with how long its been
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Yeah 
It feels a little bit unfair tho, imagone breaking a book and after a split second some bulls.. book attacks you and deals serious damage. But idea is nice. Thorium has Pot mimics iirc.
and now it has heart mimics
If they spawn naturally at least it'd be a renewable source of books
as currently, there isn't one
at least not in vanilla or Calamity afaik
Its there to make mass breaking books looking for a waterbolt is too dangerous
Maybe even make it replace waterbolts
It does later in hardmode
Just not prehardmode
Look like a waterbolt* it has a unique sprite on shelf iirc.
^
Thiccccc blue book with a yellow stripe across the spine
So its not an issue
smh raise the requirement to 200 stars so i can be one of the only suggestions to ever get in 
name recognition is cool and fair 
oh hey I saw one of your vids the other day
search by reaction and amount when
it'd be pretty sick if there was a searchable catalogue of suggestions in a spreadsheet
so you could just sort by stars
...where's amber. đ
yes hec your name really gets u a lot of stars
my name gets lots of stars as long as i don't recommend making bossrush harder
Well I do
because people don't like dying at the end even though it's really hard to do that right now. 
When I've sugested banning specific weapons nothing was done. Someone else have done it and now there is a big poll and everything. đ (JK, it's a great thing smth is beeing done about this)
i'm shocked it hit 60 quite frankly
but for real, any colored name gets more stars by default in here
it's a meme
i bet if we could have colored text, it'd be a magnet for stars
Well, Terry is a dev, too.
He sees the back end of it, tad more qualified than somebody writin their first suggestion
But nonetheless RIP Kris, lol
is it just me or did the suggestions channel just move
:ree:
very good
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I accidentally drag rooms around
Lilac's got slippery fingers
gotta love it when that happens

i wonder when at some point someone will accidentally somehow make a private room public
One time Imoved something and forgot where it was originally
Lilac
Happens to things in my house all the time.
I'm probably the biggest dumbass in both the admin and dev group
if testers count you aren't, lilac 
Sometimes I just have my moments lol
So now you turned off this chat?
?
You can't even imagine how bad am i at joking
Can you -
What suggestion were you gonna post
You can post it in here first for feedback
Before posting it back in about 12 hrs time
Oh.
what if somebody's collecting these
Is there really a point to it ?
It's just a ninja in a big ball of slime
What would be your interpretation of KS
A lesser slime being, child of the slime god. He never achieved the power of his brothers, the ebonian and crimson slimes.
To compensate he decided to terrorize villagers, but he only succeeded killing one, and even that may be only the mans costume
While in inventory it give you faster rope climbing speed
Seems good.
yep
I think a height increase to your jump would be better
i agree
Thebonus was just a joke
Because the cheese
And I don't think hell get a bonus considering nuggs don't have one either
Nuggs?
isnt that what some people call the profaned guardians
Ah
Yeah
Iâm personally voting yes on the poll
~~close the poll now
~~

Are there really that many people who want item suggestions to stay
They want their epic original oc item to get in epic terraria mod
Which is also a jojo reference
I don't know if anybody said this before but, why not creating an item-suggestions channel
and renaming the other to general-suggestions or something like that
It's been suggested
I brought up literally this exact concept not long after the poll's conception. 
One channel would be a cespool and the other would be decent 

It wouldnât make devs more likely to accept items
It'd be considered, apparently.
i wouldn't mind
even moment
at least it would make people "think" their suggestion is being considered

oh god
its happening

Nuts too how the No option used to be 8% behind
1 vote apart lol
what do we do now
Idk
nobody ever considered that
Does "Middle Ground" win if it's a tie? 
The devs decide amongst themselves
Easy answer for the devs then

Kinda ruins the point of the poll lol
The devs decide amongst themselves
i think its new people joining the server and voting at this point
That'd be answered in 10 seconds.
My question is, do suggestions relating to changing items count?
Nope
no they dont
You can suggest nerfs, buffs, etc
This isn't referring to modifying the balancing of existing items or other features.
Hell, it's not even referring to more vague item suggestions for a certain class/tier.
It's purely referring to suggesting very specific items and then complaining when they don't get in. 
The No option is winning 

no one's cheating, right?
whathappened

the website checks for IP duplications by the way
so you cant vote twice without another device
y'all better not be on VPNs

I assure you if I or anyone else was cheating you'd know by now. 
And yes I picked "No" but it was purely because I had something of a compromise in mind.
If I didn't have that compromise in mind I'd have picked Yes. 
We canât allow the JoJo references to win
you are dead to us
eh
#item_fanfic channel when
literally just
where are these votes coming from
what if they aren't..,
Its like a constant stream of votes towards ânoâ
brb downloading vpn for the greater good
Nah, 3 votes behind
I mean even if "No" wins, something still needs to happen.
Something has already happened for sure
It's confusing 
No means yes
yes means no
ok
and it may never be, unless... đ
Bumble
wht
Shall i offer you masomeme

:echsupreme:
A bit
im not really
But not much
Well tbf at least suggestions wonât be blocked out by walls of text anymore
thats the main thing
they clog the whole damn place up
supposedly the dev server already has 2k suggestions sent there already
2 thousand

And if they do get sent to the dev server they most likely get trashed immediately
exactly
They're pretty much as pointless as boss suggestions
No one's going to take the time to make your suggested weapon (unless you are a dev)

and the simpler better suggestions that would have more of a chance of getting in are blocked out by the walls of text
noone can just deflect my emerald suggestion
What was that?
Ah yes
The suggestion that took 2 pages of text
oh god that thing
Use plasma grenades (i.e bombs) to fire a death laser

OwO
formatting like that is just bad
you know the suggestions good when you throw in death laser at random
^


No one's going to take the time to make your suggested weapon (unless you are a dev)
Counterpoint: what if I take the time to make my suggested weapon.

It only got 43 stars
Tbh iâd prefer thomasâ twins darksun yoyo over that monstrosity
I couldnât even read it on mobile but it was pretty nice
I'll take it as both, don't worry.
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That'd be even better than wasting time on #suggestions-voting
Oh shit I insulted someone
And cool and good
:cri:
oh shit
yeah both, like the insultplement "fucking weeb"
fucking weeb.
Why do you think I don't send item suggestions anymore. 

i know i am @placid moth
Tbf even weebs make fun of weebs
i realized they were a dead end after i sent one
thanks
p much
- I realized they're a dead end, and
b) I have the ultimate power anyway: the ability to program my own weapons.
well i dont
They added a post dog paladinâs hammer upgrade anyways so
I mean how do we know it's post-DoG.
post dog paladins hammer?
Galaxy Smasher
That could mean post-ML. Could mean post-Polter. Could mean anything.
âUsed to craft Paladinianâs Mage Hammerâ
arknof the cosmos is post yharon so
P obvious tbh
We only know it's a Paladin's Hammer upgrade because Tractis' Hammer crafts from it. o3o
It would make sense for post dog ig
still its probably around post provi at least
Considering that moon event farming returns

Friendly reminder that Animus crafts from the Blade of Emnity--
at least
doesn't consume frames
Both get the job done but one doesnât convert your pc into a potato
Another hammerang is cool
thats not a hammer
iknow
I already know what helium flash is though
Halibut cannon gang
helium flash
Itâs the darksun upgrade to venusian trident
Ooh
oh
Omega explosion
another darksun mage weapon 
What's the topic rn
new patron item
The new weps ig
Aren't there about 2?
Wait I thought the venusian trident went into elemental Ray/upgrade
Lgb and voltaic climax
the new weapons are patron items
pretty sure
voltaic climax hot
No
it seems disallowing item suggs has taken the lead again!
What is ut and lgb
oh that thing
My brother used godmode for the entirety of our revengeance playthrough and I was sad
But whatâs ut
Uther thing
I think I knew once
ultimate tuberculosis
Wait whaaaa
its a wand, post ML
thanks lurker đ
I'm dissapointed that there's no accurate result for ultimate tuberculosis
Something something I honestly believe my weapon will get in despite the fact that the devs usually just make weapons on their own
Ig
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Or people just wanna flex their sprites
Tbh itâs not really completely blocking off item suggestions
You can still suggest them as long as they arenât super specific walls of text
Don't think you can actually
You could say âGive the guardians weapons so theyâre worth fighting more than onceâ and be fine
Though i doubt something like âGive the guardians a spear that does this with these stats, a tome that does this with these stats, and a repeater that does this with these statsâ is gonna really get anywhere
looks like it's time for some good old
tyrant dev poll vetoing
Maybe it looks and sounds ready but usually the devs have their own ideas
Rn the devs seem to want to focus on expanding aureusâ loot pool
And rogue from what I see
Since the only weapon he has is a former ad wep
And yeah that
Considering they have an entire update for it
WHAT
i approve
I have an Aureus Expert drop planned hueh--
Nebulash might get nerfed
Good Evening everyone
Considering some people figured it has higher dps than solar eruption
How in the f**k no Specific Item Suggestions are losing?
Solar eruption doesnât
Bruh no
sad
Itâs more or less saving the devs time from suggestions that are probably immediately trashed
Anubis
the dev server is already clogged.
Also wtf it got 96 
One of the counterarguments i heard yesterday was that specific item suggests encouraged creativity
The issue is, like,
You realize weâre bloated with shit already, right
I mean
The best suggestor argued for this
Why do you think before this suggest the suggests team were tough on items
blackhand is in over his head
^^I do not know how this translates 
summoner
Just donate so you can actually support the mod đ
Sunmon weps are notoriously aids to code
We dump summons on Terry usually
Stardust dragon ai is probably the most infamous
Terry is Trickster God though so.
FUCK worms though

You can tell how skilled terry is at coding considering the shit he gave to his bosses
He's also a damn good writer
Case in point reti death laser
i haven't tried masomode but it looks like rainbows and lasers to me
He could probably make his own JRPG

Lilac youâre giving him ideas
We need to have him stay bound to terraria coding
:echsupreme:
What bosses he coded?
HIV minde

btfa's acheron, arterius, titan rock reworks
Duke ex
high budget hiv mind
ascened chibii devourer

Teach me how to code
no please not again

spend seven years immersing yourself in the C language family
Ok đ¤
brb spending seven years
make a meme mod to practice whatever you want
leech off of bigger mods and become a dev with them to absorb their code powers
đž
Assimilate all mods
masoTremorshift
Then take over the mod
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Now, I rather respect disallow of item suggestions.
Think about it.
With patron items feature, item suggestions are makes absolutely no sense.
It's useless.
not really, since QoL can still mean items
except that patron items cost money and spending money is scary
also not everyone can spend money
its not supposed to be "your item"
you're supposed to suggest to help benefit this mod
the patron item system is way better than just random suggestions
which i think people dont understand
because if you pay money youre gonna wanna make a GOOD item
and not something dumb
as in like a quality one
so it semi-encourages genuine quality
if you pay money there is a 99% chance you want an overdesigned exo weapon
Honestly, I want to bane whole new content suggestions, because, well, patreon feature. Who donated for monster or something simular?
i dont want an exo weapon 
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that's what they all say
I really wanna just ban exo weapons and especially swords at this rate.
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how do you feel about 191 swords in the mod
prehardmode whip flail
we surely do need some more, do we?

How many patreon exo-weapons exist
at least 2
dragon and oracle
Unimplemented ones though
right
we dont need anymore bootleg mage weapons
ataraxia and oracle
aka swords
i got one right
isn't DP in the exo tier?
I think it is
That's cool beans
loli pet
:(
Even thoug Bear will always be the best
nO

terry no
I'm gonna ignore what Terry said
what terry said didn't happen.
how many pets is enough pets
||brimling, baby siren, and chibii doggo are basically loli pets if you think about it tho||
i can't argue with him
if i donate can my item be a loli pet
|| Terri I will eviscerate you because Brimling and Siren are LITERAL CHILDREN ||

I'm going to make an announcement regarding the poll soon btw.
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I would want the Terry pet.
That erupts into MASOCHIST noises while I'm injured...
what if I told you I am chibii doggo irl
Chibii doggo doesn't cry as water sheep or other masochist
holy fuck my sides
what does that sentence even mean
I hate poll results

oh no the item suggestors are voting
You know we had 200+ people vote on this but like... how many of those people actually post suggestions
I'm starting to wonder if people are actually buffering votes like I'd suspected would happen.
Though watch in the end it be a perfect 50/50 lmao

Itâs possible; the folks who want specific item suggestions are also the folks who are like âwhat do you mean my idea is bad itâs really goodâ
counterbot the botters 
Terry help
But yeah like... the most recent items I have nay'd on the suggestion channel have been items.
how can you use a strawpoll to determine if someoneâs grabbing votes from other sources?
It's been a general climb for the "keep item suggestions" while "remove them" has stayed even the whole time.
funny how the poll started around 66% in favour of kill suggestions and slowly consistently tilted towards keep over the course of the entire day
I don't really mind, since given the reactions of a few people towards it, and seeing that their reasons weren't really valid for keeping the item suggestions, it may as well just be an executive decision in the end.
wait a second, you're on the other side of the world. most of calamity was sleeping during this time
I still think we should just split the channel into feature and item suggestions
who the fuck gets up in the dead of night--
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And then we just completely ignore item suggestions
let's actually do that
I like that idea
lmao
terry what
split the channel in 2 and completely ban everyone from speaking in the "items" part
just make the star requirement for items 200
drh that is diabolical

flawless plan
drh is true chaotic evil
Flawless victory.
sounds good drh
really sets an example and proves a point
how to nohit the item suggestions debate
well boys, we did it, item suggestions are no more
honestly if it comes down to executive override Iâm all for it since this is a pretty decent deal
It very well may be.
Considering NONE of the Dev team want more specific item suggestions I don't see why we didn't make it executive in the first place.
Not the thing to discuss here
yeah
Right, yeah
t b h
What about disallowing whole new content as well?
Devs have more good ideas for content that community in general.
im just waiting for the individual item suggestion ban to pass and someone decides to suggest an entire boss instead
Which is already not allowed
A mute does
Disallowing whole new content might not be a good idea
Why?
We have said several times this only affects specific item suggestions

I think the confusing phrasing could be why people vote a different option
a bow that can be looted from the Dungeon.
Why: we donât have one.
Reason number two why weâre just resorting to an executive decision.
@ivory heart use Thorium.
so much for a poll
But we don't need one either, rifter
Nitro ended up voting the wrong one too. 

I tried the Thorium discord server, got banned within 2 days
Nitro dum dum
Nice rifter
@ivory heart what reason?
Impressive
speedrun
And this doesn't disallow from playing the mod, that fills vanilla with content, instead of Calamity.
I at least want a Nightâs Edge bow
Thorium.
lunarian bow
isnt there a night's edge bow in throium
^
also lunarian bow kinda is that but why does it use bee's knees
bee's knees is the jungle bow maybe but still
I try not to think too hard abt it since itâs mediocre
I almost voted wrong but then I read it like 5 or 6 times
itâs a literacy test too
whenever someone says "i voted yes" i dont know what they mean
yes to ban them
or yes to have them stay

Yes to fuck items up
I voted to have them stay
Reversed poll variants would be much more understandable.
Yes, keep item suggestions.
No, bane item suggestions.
Just waiting for the poll to get ignored since there's a 99% chance it was botted
I want to ban item suggestions
Iâm waiting for the executive override
Same Yata
imagine botting a strawpoll so you can get your oc items rejected some more
i highly doubt it was
id just bet a lot of people who dont use suggestions decided to vote
Why do I even care? I have suggestions muted
donât know why the gap got closed so quickly
youâd be surprised how fragile some peopleâs egos are
I fully expect the poll to have meant nothing and for these things to be banned anyway. '3'
^^^
same
at least the poll was useful
Not
Why? Just a hunch. 

inb4 blackhand botted the poll
not an unlikely possibility
fifty bucks says yes
@ruby cobalt so, all guys who voted yes, will be banned from suggestions? 

would expect that

God please no that's so much work
I think they mean that there would be a item suggestions channel but no one could post in it
good thing I have my IP tracer ready to find out who voted to keep them
Hey guys, please add jojo reference
Why? Why not, we donât have one.
better not be botted by someone, ruins the whole point anyways
Lol
Eww jojo
i mean
yeah fuck specific item suggestions bruhhhh
You just know somebody botted it cuz they wanted more of their shitty ideas to get rejected
^

gj Tomas
lmao
shh yata don't say shitty, you might insult someone

hueh
My memes suggestions
yes, yata, that's rude
Poorly thought out suggestions
Imagine suggesting specific items

call them "creatively challenged ideas" instead
when you could be programming them yourself. 

call them âcalamitous creativitiesâ instead 
@sand umbra I was had idea about implementing #suggestions-voting, but forgot about it cuz I have a really potato pc.
Make an #item-suggestions-fanfic channel
My ideas didn't come from the edgy OC of a 12-year-old. 
good idea
true
For specific item suggestion
we'll have #item_suggestions and then make the star count 300 so none of them gets submitted
but oh wait
And also I'm actually programming mine instead of just dead-end-suggesting them so there's that. 
how about we just ban someone from that channel after they submit 1 item
mfw more people should learn to program for this reason.
Now people can put 50 lines of formatting without bothering anyone
so they gotta choose wisely
Blossom flux gets banged by <redacted>
eh if im honest ive really only suggested weapon and enemy suggestions so maybe thats why i voted that they shouldn't be banned, but honestly i can see both sides.
i just hope this poll helps clear the air somehow
oh it will clear a lot of air
And a lot of suggestions.
all the air that gets hogged by item suggestions are now being shared

~~Besides, people can just toss their edgy waifu-sama OC weapon with fifty different functions at me instead.
And then I'll dismiss half of them anyway hahayes--~~

about 120k are specific items
inb4 just donate to have your one OC item implemented
although a lot of these shouldn't count because suggestions existed before this channel, so discussions happened in there as well
i hope my super nail gun, the 120,001th item suggestion is implemented!
i put a ton of work into it!
Okay more like 70-80%.
If is possible to dump whole #suggestions-voting to archive...
Granted my whole thing is making new items/expanding upon stuff so naturally I'm a bit more lenient about what I actually pay attention to suggestion-wise.
Hey guys... my item suggestions got 95 stars.... will it be added next update??? đ¸đ¸đ¸
item suggestion getting 90 stars? 
And I've seen quite a few really good specific item suggestions in #suggestions-voting in the past.
people like that are wack
exo gun
None. 
If is possible to dump whole #suggestions-voting to archive...
Maybe we find something good in this...
exo throwing knife
exo shiv
i remember when the next big thing was suggestion exo guns
So eitherr I haven't looked back far enough or most exo guns are just badly designed.

Exo Spear 
exo sword
hey guys add exo yoyo thanks
wait...
Yeah add an exo-throw.
...wait--
lmao

and add yoyo from signus so i can use it for CV and SW
Exo Pickaxe
Guys....Exo-yo... please.. hahađ¸
:bruh:
then add another yoyo from CV so i can use it for SW and signut
add a new yoyo for every sentinel so i can use it for the other two sentinels
add an elemental yoyo pls, provi too thicc for my taste
Seriously, I want Exo Pickaxe for my building and destruction dreams.
alternate post-ML throw is actually needed though lel
Provi too thicc
EXO DRILL
I would like to suggest my specific item of a dumb item
EXO PICK
Exactly
exo rock item when
exo dirt
Exo pick.
thank you drh
Exo Terrarian.
exo doesnt look like a word anymore
np
Exo Hamaxe
Exo-Exo
Exo scal
Not the throw, the character. 
Exo girlfriend
exo scal 
We need more bees.
and make it unobtainable
vita is speaking my language
supreme-er calamitas
I should make more bee weapons eventually.
more supreme calamitas
Beelamitas
Hey guys add Yharim as a boss, I think it will be cool.
Subeeme Calamitas.
Echlamitas, it's what the whole community need.
Supreme Calamitas, but sprites and sounds are ech.
wait we returned into 2016
when whole graphics was ech
Let's guess how much (or is itncorrect to say many?) Gel KS will drop.
oh god
Around 50 per kill ig
why is this place so active all of the sudden again
Let's guess how much (or is itncorrect to say many?) Gel KS will drop.
150
Ok so I have a question: does suggesting â [certain weapon] needs an upgrade for Post-ML, possibly with a [blank] themeâ count as a specific weapon suggestion?
That's kind-of on the edge
but if you can tie in the theme with the reasoning, and include why that weapon needs an upgrade for that tier, I can see that being allowed
Forgot the Why part, but cool
The "Why" is very important
Of course!
@earnest raptor Thanks.
Sors, so now you are talking like "no context" is already implemented. I missed it or is it a leak? 
wdym "no context"?
I mean shorter suggestions, my bad, English is hard sometimes.
Well he asked a question about the new rule, so I answered as such
Oh okay.
I hope you will count almost draw as a draw and choose the correct option yourself
Y E S
Comeback
tbh the two obvious results from this poll are gonna anger about half of the people involved anyway so
balanced
oh down to 5 person difference
I'm really hyped to see if this ends in a perfect 50-50 split
~~ 3 4 ~~ 3 person difference
Christ..
4 minutes left
we're in the endgame now

we throw a party
they do both which results in nothing happening
I think they should make a seperate channel for specific item suggestions
they are going to ban them anyway
That doesnt solve the problem
at this point
it's tipped towards the ban again
looks like yes is going to win
Also shouldve made the poll this:
- Yes, item suggestions shouldnât be allowed.
- No, item suggestions shouldnât be allowed.
^
inb4 a draw leads to all suggestions being banned
wtf
PARTY TIME
Evaluating a draw 
where'd all the votes for keeping the bad suggestions come from
smells like someone's influencing the vote from the shadows
I'm dying rn
specific item suggestions get their own server
@ashen warren It should have been closed.
It closed on the tie, votes after likely won't count
I literally looked there after Sors said "closed", was a draw.
You can't just close a strawpoll from voting
Oh
I know
They probably took the 174-174 result and ignored any votes after the "closure"

literally its one vote off
tbh the weapon ideas are a bad thing
drowning out the actually good ideas
smh with the bot theory
Plot twist: ALL the votes were via bot
There's definitely botting going tbh
I would like to take this moment to give a shoutout to blackhand who definitely didn't touch this
nah rover, there's botting

I can attest to that
fuckin told you blackhand was watching us from beyond and plotting his revenge
ok
whos blackhand?
A frequent item suggester
some asshat who really, REALLY likes his specific item suggestions
tbh the only item suggestion i would support is an idea for an Exo-gun
he made a rant about how banning item suggestions stifles creativity and then got banned
muted*
Then he ranted in the art server for a bit
Sandstorm Wings - crafted from Forbidden Fragments, Desert Feathers, Stormlion Mandibles, and Souls of Flight.
Why: Desert themed wings please
So uh

Suggestions like that
will no longer be allowed :P
thank goodness
Rifter you know what is going on right now?
ech
but really, its a shame i havent seen an item suggestion for an Exo-gun
its ok..
the times are a changinâ
wouldve been cool
because there's been too much of them
Exo weapon suggestions
oof
Then again there are Exo weapons of practically every weapon except for guns

Why do people stick to weapon specific playthroughs anyways
you don't need a gun if you yeet the bullets hard enough
because its a fun challenge afaik
That doesnât include Nightmare Fuel, Endothermic Energy, Darksun Fragments, Phantoplasm, etc.
bruh










