i remember someone made a suggestion that literally was "my suggestion died at 70 pls star"
#suggestions-discussion
civic pond
smoky wagon
like why
faint needle
civic pond
that says something about the community
smoky wagon
i think they banned those kind of posts but still
void kelp
I’m all for a mourningstar change
ivory heart
Does Cosmocide sound like a melee ranged or Magic weapon
faint needle
wait bumble did you get plaguenades into the mod?
cosmocide sounds like a ww2 weapon
faint needle
you reccomeded them
frail mantle
cosmocide sounds like a fungicide upgrade
ivory heart
civic pond
fungicide kinda cool
faint needle
fungicide also sounds like a ww2 weapon
smoky wagon
fungicide isnt that interesting
hollow shell
@civic pond You suggested that on the 21st originally, didn't you?
smoky wagon
i kinda want a hyphae rod like weapon later in that game
dont you have to wait a week for reposts
frail mantle
doesn't one of Polter's drops act sorta like a Hyphae Rod
hollow shell
You do have to wait a week.
civic pond
ping
smoky wagon
yes but its a post-polter mage weapon
faint needle
hyphae rod line confirmed 
civic pond
uh
smoky wagon
and phantasmal fury could be cosmilite tier
or darksun
so they arent all three ontop of eachother
faint needle
yeah
civic pond
@hollow shell should i just delete it for now then? i forgot 
smoky wagon
yes delete it
hollow shell
Yes delet
smoky wagon
the more people see something reposted the less they star it
hollow shell
you may repost on the 28th
arctic pelican
Just gonna state that I really agree with cosmic. Jacking up the health values of everything is fine and all, but if that's all you do it's really just unnecessary padding. Especially given how much needs to be done to fully kit yourself. It could be a good opportunity to fill in with more creative enemy ideas and stuff, but right now it's probably the single most unfun part of the mod. For me anyways.
zealous ridge
i agree, darksun tier has a similar problem. it's kind of boring and arbitrary that these are just events recycled. I'm an advocate for something more unique in this area, like entirely new events. that would be a large amount of work, though, so i doubt its the number one priority of the devs. the Rogue expansion is getting worked on and such, and work on draedon's update will come soon after. perhaps then we will get better moon events, just a thought
smoky wagon
they are going to expand post-ml exploration eventually
im assuming the buffed vanilla events will be replaced with actual new content
gaunt gazelle
darksun solar eclipse adds nearly no challenge
every enemy can be perma stalled with knockback
smoky wagon
They just can suprise you at times
devout seal
Hey, would it be a good idea to reword one of my suggestions?
'cause, i made one that got 90+ and idk the status of it, but with what there is now, it needs to be repurposed.
ionic flicker
?
civic pond
well there are 3 things that could have happened
it was either reviewed, rejected, or ignored
vocal grotto
coughs and points at my suggestion
civic pond
vocal grotto
terse sundial
I'm actually not sure what i can and cannot say about sent suggestions
i think I have to keep quiet unless it was rejected by everyone
vocal grotto
Probably would be a good idea to check with Fabsol on that one
terse sundial
There is only an extent to what I know
civic pond
fair enough
vocal grotto
I think he means that he doesn't want to unintentionally give out information that might be private
terse sundial
bunch of info is locked from testers
but yeah Dom's right
I've dealt with leaks before and 
devout seal
Is it fine if i post the thing that was in the suggestion and what i could do with it here though?
terse sundial
Your suggestion won't be sent again akaik
devout seal
No, i just mean the thing i made for it
Because at the time, there weren't many ranged weapons for darksun yharon, and i made one.
but now that there's stuff like Onyxia, and a couple other choices, i suppose it could be made into a RIV.
terse sundial
what was your suggestion?
devout seal
the Riptide Reaper, darksun upgrade to the Flak Kraken
right click acted like a railgun, left click acted like a stronger flak kraken shot.
devout seal
Read how it acts.
it's an upgrade of the Flak Kraken.
I also could make a post-ML Railgun, since i have one i can fix up in like an hour.
Of course, i also made the projectile that acted like the stronger flak kraken charge.
but, with stuff like Onyxia, i don't know if it's exactly needed or wanted anymore.
zealous ridge
i personally feel darksun does need a few new ranger weapons, onyxia is the only one crafted with darksun fragments right now afaik
devout seal
Then, should i go ahead and make the upgraded titanium railgun to fill the gap and then resuggest it?
plucky prairie
what is even supposed to convey
civic pond
it conveys
plucky prairie
civic pond
autumn lion
proven tide
needed this one for a while
hollow saffron
@maiden jungle that's basically my darksun suggestion, but for pumpkin moon and frost moon
hollow shell
@pale bluff Do you really change modes that often to the point where even using a Money Trough is too much of a hassle?
hollow saffron
^
jagged halo
Yea idk who changes modes that often lmao
balmy coyote
I feel like I should mention that the suggestion about changing infinity's description reached 90 stars already
ivory heart
Blackhole Blaster
“Why go to space when you can bring space here?”
Crafted from 10 Vortex Fragments at an Ancient Manipulator.
Slow, but speeds up gradually over time at an exponential rate, capping off at 15 bullets per second.
Fires vortex rockets that home in on enemies and explode into 2-5 blackhole fragments.
Why: There is no vortex rocket launcher, despite it being a ranged weapon. I just noticed there is no vortex flamethrower, but such a weapon would seem strange to exist.
hollow shell
Makes sense.
ivory heart
The name is in part from the Blackhole Beater, the 1.3 trailer name for the Vortex Beater
radiant meadow
vortex beater is a gun-rocket launcher hybrid
it's meant to fill both roles of a gun and rocket launcher
and there's already scorpio
and the empyrean to address your flamethrower needs
there's even charged dart blaster to fill your dart needs
ivory heart
I didn’t need darts
ivory heart
Darts are pretty much useless in pre-ML
radiant meadow
scorpio already fills the rocket launcher niche pretty well
brittle merlin
Vortex flame debuff
hollow saffron
we need more flame debuffs
brittle merlin
radiant meadow
there's zero need for a vortex flamethrower
radiant meadow
and you can stop with the flame memes
hollow saffron
ok
ivory heart
I have one, or a lot
Solar Inferno, Nebula Blaze, Vortex Burn, Lunar Flare, Godly Inferno, Cryoburn, Toxin Burn, Bone Melt, Slimy Inferno
brittle merlin
Slimy inferno?
ivory heart
Slime is fuel for fires
brittle merlin
Well yeah but wouldn’t that just be on fire then?
radiant meadow
there's no need for more flame debuffs
ivory heart
I actually have a lot of flame debuffs
brittle merlin
But why
ivory heart
And those are all of them
radiant meadow
ye, and all of them are unecessary
ivory heart
They will never be implemented
brittle merlin
So I have an idea for a rogue accessory but before I fully develop it I need some feedback on the idea
It would make it so there is a chance for lightning to arc between the thrown weapons, making the attacks that missed deal some damage
radiant meadow
thrown weapons could emit lightning sparks as they travel
idk if you could get them to arc between each other
brittle merlin
Ok I’ll keep that in mind
hollow shell
If Ornate Shield would have any effect it should probably be regen or health related
considering The Regenerator
also
fresh harbor
Formating is wack, if I can be honest
The idea is pretty good, but maybe swap the glass for forbidden fragments?
brittle merlin
I’m on mobile so I don’t notice that
I’ll fix that in a bit
When I’m not on mobile
Well I went with glass because fulgurites are made of glass and are pretty fragile
Charged Fulgurite
Crafted with 25 glass, 10 essence of sunlight, and 4 stormlion mandibles. All your rogue weapons will trail sparks behind them and will shatter into 3-5 glass shards. Why? There aren’t a lot of rogue accessories and this could make for decent crowd control
is that better
brittle merlin
Aren’t they only used in 2 things
brittle merlin
But anything I should change about it
left crest
Nope that looks good
brittle merlin
Ok
ivory heart
Cosmocide
Crafted from 18 Cosmilite Bars, 10 Exodium Clusters, 5 Astral Bars, 10 Meteorite Bars, 5 Luminite Bars, and a Fungicide at a Draedon’s Forge.
Shoots cosmic pellets that split into three cosmic fragments upon striking a block or enemy. These cosmic fragments will explode upon hitting a block or enemy.
Why: I actually came up with the name before I came up with the weapon, but the name stuck as I created this suggestion. So yes, mostly the name.
Criticism is accepted, as this suggestion-in-progress is subject to change.
brittle merlin
Quick question
Why are there meteorite bars in the recipe
Is it because meteorites are from space
Same with astral bars
ivory heart
Yes
brittle merlin
Ok
ivory heart
And yes
brittle merlin
Maybe with my accessory there could be an upgrade later on which makes it have a chance to inflict electrified
After the Martian invasion
ivory heart
I actually have the idea for a second attack which fires five rockets (which are affected by the Shroomite Helmet), one for each crafting material used, minus the Fungicide.
ivory heart
Spread
ivory heart
Cosmilite: has a 25% chance to inflict GSI (God Slayer Inferno)
Exodium: slows the enemy
Meteorite: sets fire to the enemy
Astral: creates a damaging stardust field
Luminite: Leaves a laser trail
Keep in mind this is a fast gun
brittle merlin
I feel like the astral ones should do something unique though
plucky prairie
perhaps it can drop stardust?
ivory heart
The only Astral debuff is God Slayer Inferno
white copper
It will be nice to make ornate shield allowing dash. Now counter scarf are used from the beginning to post plantera
earnest raptor
Rework of Biome Blade
Reason: that line of weapons are mostly useless in fight since biome debuffs, that Blade inflicts, are useless against biome bosses. And debuffs are not a so much useful.
Let's begin.
Instead of different debuffs, Biome Blade uses different projectiles in each biome.
Forest: Terra Blade's projectile, pierces 3 times.
Snow: Ice bolt projectile, that splits into smaller bolts after short traveling.
Corruption: Vile Split projectile that explodes into rotten cloud on hitting enemy or tile.
Crimson: Golden Shower's projectile, affected by gravity, pierces 3 times.
Desert: tornados of dust that damages all entities in area.
Hallow: True Excalibur's projectile, that leaves a trail of sparkles with small damage.
Marble: etherial spear that inflict Armor Crunch.
Granite: blast of energy that produces storm of sparks on critical hits.
Glowing Mushrooms: exploding spores of fungi that slowly descends and ignores blocks.
Underworld: fireball that bounces out of tiles and affected by gravity.
Ocean: slowly moving blast of water that pierces 4 times.
golden kayak
There is a pre-Boss blade from sunken sea (in HM) that outclasses every single-target weapon up to plantera and maybe a little bit further. If Biome blade will not compete with this, i will suggest a nerf.
golden kayak
Like was double or even x2.5 damage of projectile of other swords with projectile and overall dps.
proven tide
@pale bluff hey, have you ever heard of multiplayer?
kachow, welcome to redcode hell
that's a hard ❕ from me
ruby cobalt
not to mention the reasoning is absolute shit
pale bluff
Yeah I suck at suggestions
proven tide
there's not a way to clone yourself either so why not add that
there's no super saiyan although there is rage/adren and the nebula blaze, nebula arcanum, and the crystal/prism weapons, so uh
while we're at it, let's throw in mecha for more anime mechanics that don't exist so should because they don't
sand umbra
Also, by the time you reach post-ML, any event that doesn't get buffed post-DoG (hell, even the buffed seasonal moons, with endgame weaponry) is a joke anyway.
vocal grotto
I suppose one could store all entities past velocities in a list and use those, but that isn't exactly efficienct or worth it from a computational standpoint imo
ashen warren
honestly can we banne item suggestions
noble turret
^
hollow saffron
@pale bluff ZA
WARUDO
also there should at least be a cooldown, or make it a revengeance-only item
And while you're at it, can we also add in a Requiem arrow to the game so my Stand [DIAMOND STAR] can become [DIAMOND STAR REQUIEM]?
proven tide
you mean stardust guardian
proven tide
suggestion out of ten
jagged halo
Can we get RIVs for summoner that are worms? Can we get a worm summon for all points in the game?
The true way to kill fabsol
grim stratus
im dumb, whats riv stand for
jagged halo
Rare item variant
hearty ermine
bruh whats with all the timestop suggestions
hollow saffron
ikr
jagged halo
The second one is kinda neat
hearty ermine
i mean cool idea but M U L T I P L A Y E R
plucky matrix
jagged halo
But I feel like after a billion revive mechanics it’s gonna be hard to die lol
harsh latch
timestop doesn't affect players, but the dmg reduction does apply to all players
jagged halo
That would prob be a tough thing to code but a cool idea
hearty ermine
dont get me wrong i love the idea, but i doubt they would have time to make a singular item that would probably be hell to code, when they're working on the rogue expansion
harsh latch
I'm not rushing them to make it, it's just a neat concept i would love to see implemented at some time
hearty ermine
i would love to see it too, im just worried its going to get lost in suggestions
hollow saffron
tbh do we really need a jojo reference that is this overpowered
hearty ermine
what would be better, punch ghost?
hollow saffron
I would like to see a weapon that shoots mini grenades, when an enemy touches them they explode
harsh latch
isn't that basically the stardust set bonus?
hollow saffron
i would like to see a summon weapon that summons zippers!
hearty ermine
yeah but stardust is useless
harsh latch
oof
hollow saffron
i want an accessory that allows the player to predict their enemie's next movements and allow them to erase time
hearty ermine
that seams impossible
hollow saffron
i would like to make an interdimensional travelling device accessory
yeah exactly
thats my point
hearty ermine
just add love train lol, easy to code, no time shenanigans
hollow saffron
just add tusk act 4
drags enemies back to the point where they were struck
even better? add a fishing line that reflects all damage enemies do back at them
hearty ermine
i dont think the devs are going to rip things strait from other series. the most they will probably do is an item with a similar effect and tool tip
harsh latch
this isn't the world either, if it were it would be overpowered as fuck
hollow saffron
yeah
time stop, skip, rewind, those are all op
only thing that might not work well for the player is made in heaven
did i mention d4c is op?
harsh latch
like, i can stop time whenever i want, deal a fuckton of dmg and i can do this every 30 seconds or something
hollow saffron
if a timestop is added it needs a heavy cooldown
like for example jotaro can stop time but each time he does so it stops his heart
thats why he doesnt do much during the stopped time
hearty ermine
evil's suggestion works well cus it activates on revive
hollow saffron
like, for example, having the time stop negate all positive life regen while time is stopped
hearty ermine
thats a good idea
hearty ermine
the suggestion was post moonlord
hollow saffron
oh i didnt notice the luminite
gaunt gazelle
ancient timepiece is the most useless item ive ever seen suggested
jagged halo
Yea...
gaunt gazelle
postmoonlord all non boss enemies are pushovers
jagged halo
Non boss enemies for most of the game tbh are pushovers
It would help with post dog moons and that’s about it
gaunt gazelle
you couldnt even use it when theres a boss though
it wouldnt help with mothron or the bosses in moons
jagged halo
Yea but those are minibosses
I figure they don’t count
Like does dying to those on iron heart perma kill you
hollow saffron
!wiki iron heart
red stormBOT
hollow saffron
here
loud steeple
it would be
signal prairie
Because they want their TV show to be a reference
sacred thorn
Might as well add the matrix effect in too
hollow saffron
Jojo already is a reference
sacred thorn
Also if they want time to stop they just have to use infinity with rubber mortar rounds
hollow saffron
^
harsh latch
lol
sacred thorn
But for real the time stopping thing is just kinda no
It’s definitely a pain to code and also just doesnt seem like it would be used
I can see it being used mainly in hardcore if at all
signal prairie
@harsh latch where's the why in that suggestion?
bitter drift
Ancient spear
made by: 1 Iron bar + 2 wood = 10 ancient spears
what it does: pierce 1 enemy, 70% chance to be dropped once used, good damage low speed.
description: spears of the ancient humans a primitive weapon of a primitive time
why should it be added: wolfram knives are a bit expensive when you are mining 90% of the pre boss era and somehow never see the day
also we got 3 options of weapons for DS one of them pierce 2 enemies and does low damage.
the other returns to you when you hit an enemy with it but still a low damage fast speed.
and the 3th one guess what it is, a low damage fast speed weapon that split into 3 daggers.
having a slower weapon with higher damage will give a larger verities of play styles.
what do you think?
queen sail
Wulfrum isn’t that hard to get though
sacred thorn
3 potions of weapons?
bitter drift
wolfram knives are a bit expensive when you are mining 90% of the pre boss era and somehow never see the day\
sacred thorn
Go fishing
bitter drift
but i have to go mining
queen sail
It’s not like the wulfrum enemies are hard to kill either
sacred thorn
Spend one day not mining then
bitter drift
i have now 7 daggers
queen sail
Hell you can get knives then go mining for crystalline
sacred thorn
Literally this mod is based on grinding
bitter drift
and no shards
queen sail
Bruh
Terraria itself is focused on grinding
Why do you think things like chlorophyte farms exist
sacred thorn
I forgot those could grow
bitter drift
how do you get 80% of you items
jagged halo
I’m sayin pre hm
bitter drift
yes
bitter drift
yes but what 10 i need about 100 for game
and that is you don't use any Iron weapons
jagged halo
Most chests that contain bars have over 10
So find a couple chests and ur set
Or just fish which is faster than mining for 2 years
Or use dynamite
hollow saffron
crap I messed bupt eh background
oof
>boring fight, really has nothing to it
>"add projectiles"
queen sail
@signal prairie nurse now has price scaling in rev
worthy fiber
queen sail
A full heal will at least cost a platinum by dog
signal prairie
By that time, the player will have so much money that a platinum is nothing
night cradle
It's your choice to use the nurse cheese, so it's also your choice to ruin the fun
I don't see why would the removal be needed
signal prairie
You can just fly away from the base, teleport back, heal and have enough time to get out to your arena before the boss comes back Hell, you can even rod to the nurse and heal since she clears debuffs From Teragat in #calamity-mod-talk
jagged halo
Nurse is a stupid npc in general
jagged halo
Not true
worthy fiber
That was changed
jagged halo
It got reverted
hollow saffron
oH
worthy fiber
Now it's just price scaling
hollow saffron
Ok
smoky wagon
If you are playing in rev+ you shouldnt be relying on nurse cheese
sacred thorn
Why
smoky wagon
because its a difficulty above expert
You should be experienced enough to not need it
sacred thorn
But rev has nearly every item
Something expert doesnt have
I want to be able to experience that too
smoky wagon
Then learn to beat bosses without cheese
ML isnt that hard with a plain old skybridge start
sacred thorn
I dont see why its a problem
smoky wagon
Because people who need to rely on that should be playing expert
you are supposed to work for the new drops
lofty blade
ffs let people play how they want
if someone wants to play rev and nurse cheese, let them
dont gatekeep the mode
and this has strayed away from suggestions, i think you should move, please
sacred thorn
Its like saying get rid of wingslot because its cheese
smoky wagon
wingslot is cheese but ok
I’m not sure how making a harder difficulty demand a greater level of skill out of a player is “gatekeeping”
sacred thorn
jagged halo
This is a discussion about someone saying to add it back tho
smoky wagon
but there is a suggestion about nurse cheese so this is relevant?
sacred thorn
We could just move
smoky wagon
but we are on topic so there isnt a point
sacred thorn
Im moving
smoky wagon
👋
jagged halo
Imo rev items are made so that rev+ is doable and so that there’s a reward for completing a harder difficulty, but that all goes out the window when you nurse cheese
If someone really wants to play with the items, you can either improve or use mods that let you add them to your inventory
sand umbra
Or they can just play the game how they'd like to play it because they're not nohitting and perhaps just wanna have fun or see how awesome later bosses are without having to deal with the nightmare that is Rev+ ML.
Nurse price scaling with progression is fine--
zenith hazel
10 platinum per heal post-yharon
blissful quiver
yikes
gaunt gazelle
bruh
blissful quiver
nurse could graduate from medical school with that kind of coins
blissful quiver
then nurse can finally call herself a doctor.
gaunt gazelle
and scals bullethells
sand umbra
Yeah later bosses pretty much hard-counter nurse cheese anyway.
zenith hazel
nurse cheese can somewhat work against yharon
sand umbra
Like ML, who teleports to you, Provi, who literally kills you with Holy Inferno, and DoG, who will fly at you at supersonic speeds to have you and your nurse for breakfast.
zenith hazel
providing that she isn't trapped in a flarenado
sand umbra
Nurse cheese can work for Yharon if you catch her in the transition to phase 2.
zenith hazel
I used to nurse cheese death yharon a lot ngl
sand umbra
Past that though the battle's way too hectic to reliably pull it off.
zenith hazel
but times have changed
jagged halo
You can have nurse teleport to you
Instead of other way around
So late game bosses still are nurse cheeseable
sand umbra
Provi anti-heal flames can one-shot a nurse in Death and two-shot her in Rev, try again.
The point is, why complain about something you don't use anyway and don't want to use?
ashen warren
I like the Dm dokuro Npc idea
gaunt gazelle
easier to cheese provi with coldheart anyway
jagged halo
Even getting a single heal in completely trivializes a fight
sand umbra
Not really.
jagged halo
So nurse dying doesn’t matter much
gaunt gazelle
unique vector
calamitas npc might already be a thing depending on what fab decides, hes mentioned the possibility of one in public
blissful quiver
i can still use tps to get to my nurse to heal and then tp back into the fight
sand umbra
The Dream Catcher doesn't trivialize shit.
zenith hazel
besides, provi’s fight in non-death is already a nurse cheese in itself with all those healing flames
sand umbra
Yes it's a Thorium thing I know shush.
ashen warren
just got to make sure it gets in
gaunt gazelle
2-3 shot bosses
1 revive every 45s
1 healing potion every 45s
constant healing through vampire knives upgrades
jagged halo
So the mod tries to patch and generally most bosses are uncheesable so why leave this free win in
gaunt gazelle
one nurse heal doesnt do much
sand umbra
Slimy Saddle.
jagged halo
It’s like saying stormbow doesn’t need a nerf cus people could just not use it
gaunt gazelle
stormbow can be used in nohits
unique vector
stormbow is a damn weapon
unique vector
that is meant to be used as a weapon
nurse isnt a fucking weapon, its not meant to be used during fights like a weapon is
zenith hazel
it’s a damn weapon alright
sand umbra
The Deadalus Stormbow is a weapon, NOT an NPC or chat button.
zenith hazel
nurse is just backup
gaunt gazelle
also
suggesting dev team works on a feature you arent even going to use
sand umbra
And an overpowered as FUCK one in vanilla, at that, being able to carry you to and kill the Moon Lord.
unique vector
by the way
sand umbra
Not really.
jagged halo
It can tho
unique vector
can i tell ya’ll to stop with the argument about nurse cheesing
sand umbra
I've already explained why nurse cheese gets at least semi-hardcountered by later boss fights. +3+
jagged halo
You can teleport to nurse at any point lol
zenith hazel
sure pixl
gaunt gazelle
why dont we just remove normal expert and revengeance since it can carry you to scal
unique vector
this isnt a convo about whether the suggestion should be implemented anymore
so please move on
jagged halo
Alright how bout this then
That last suggestion is great
Lore items get really annoying cus there’s so many good ones that are nice to have but you have to dump ur inventory so often to keep em
unique vector
thats called a trade off
jagged halo
Main issue would be it might need a different ui for toggling
unique vector
its made like that for a reason
gaunt gazelle
its a sekiro reference tho
sand umbra
Oh no, inventory management. My worst enemy.
gaunt gazelle
it doesnt take up inventory space in sekiro
unique vector
doesnt mean it has to act exactly like sekiro memories
jagged halo
Ah I never played sekiro
sand umbra
You think I'm joking but I'm actually horrible at inventory management in any game I play lmao--
jagged halo
I’m fairly good at inventory management but there’s so many enemies that drop non stackable items
That it gets annoying
Looking at you jungle
sacred thorn
Beats day mode but cant be good at inventory management
gaunt gazelle
< kept every item needed for shadowspec and auric tesla in inventory
jagged halo
I usually just play with calamity and calamity music but yea I prob should use that
sacred thorn
Just use magic storage
jagged halo
Storage isn’t the issue tho it’s just inventory space
blissful quiver
well, if inventory space is the main issue, y not design a special item that you can consume to gain more inventory space?
worthy fiber
It's supposed to clutter your inventory, that's how they're balanced out
night cradle
^
blissful quiver
a
jagged halo
Yea if they’re supposed to do that then that’s understandable
I wasn’t sure if they were just supposed to be interesting buffs from then on
jagged halo
Downsides are ways to balance tho
blissful quiver
yeah like, maybe you get the chance to decide what lore items are better?
night cradle
That is a balance though, because if they were toggleable or such you could get free strong buffs without any drawback, which would be broken
e.g. Yharon's lore wing flight time boost, DoG's 50% true melee damage or Cryogen's free dash without a need of a potential accessory slot
jagged halo
I mean you can still get em with not much of a drawback but yea essentially that
Forces you to have a decision to make
faint needle
@regal jetty thats literally the most bland shit ive seen
jagged halo
^
regal jetty
making more text accidentaly typed enter
smoky wagon
Whats the point? Suggestions need to have a reason
faint needle
dude
dusty stirrup
@regal jetty Where do you get it? Why would you want this added?
Gotta elaborate more
faint needle
you typed a suggestion with what the item does
theres no way you would want to write more than that
maybe a reason, but cosidering how not-much you wrote about the item itself it should be too much more
thats also bland as fuck
faint needle
yeah
or why do they exist
or what does the astrum aureus/deus part mean in the second item
regal jetty
wait
faint needle
also including more items into a sugg isnt good
ivory heart
Alien Essence
“Comes in 5 dimensions”
Used to craft Martian- and future- themed weapons and included in the Genesis and Alpha Ray recipe.
Why: The Martian Madness event is the source of three related weapons added by the Calamity Mod, but there seems to be something else missing. The tooltip states that the item comes in 5 dimensions, and from whatever technology the Martian invaders come from they certainly would achieve items that come from way over 4-dimensional space time.
smoky wagon
summoner already has enough minion slots, the issue with it as a class is minions being unreliable
faint needle
yeah
smoky wagon
Rifter where would it come from and would it be making new weapons or existing ones?
faint needle
oh and also rogue has no way to increase stealth capacity
and health is classless and all classes benefit from it
hollow saffron
^
ivory heart
Maybe both @smoky wagon and it would be dropped by officers and grunts with a low chance, Scutlix gunners with a certain chance (1-2) and Martian Saucer dropping the most (5-7)
smoky wagon
That works
hollow saffron
@ivory heart its "comes in 17 dimensions"
ivory heart
ok
hollow saffron
also something that is higherdimensional is far beyond our understanding
ivory heart
Much like the martians
hollow saffron
remember you're viewing 17 spatial dimensions in a universe with max 10 dimensions in a 3 dimensional space on a 2 dimensional screen in your 1 dimensional brain
opaque grail
There are ways to visualize the 4th dimension
hollow saffron
but 17th?
opaque grail
To visualize the 17th you'd need to visualize the 16th, and etc
hollow saffron
yes
hollow shell
@regal jetty Summoner proficiency allows you to increase your max minion slots
to a maximum of +3
So that's already got you covered.
And, if those are put into the game too, a natural +6 minions without anything equipped is a bit extreme
ivory heart
@hollow shell do you think my suggestion is good enough to put in suggestions
opaque grail
7 max minions with nothing equipped is stronger than an entire vanilla end game summoner build
hollow shell
The event is the source of 4 (or 6) Calamity weapons iirc
Nano Purge (T1000), Genisis (Alpha Ray), Vortexpopper, and Effervescence
ivory heart
ok
ivory heart
ok
hollow shell
With that said
not sure if we need more Martian content
Also technically Charged Dart Blaster and Nanotech require Martian Conduit Plating, but those are also obtainable from Shockstorm Shuttles
smoky wagon
I think you mean charged dart blaster
hollow shell
right, sorry
smoky wagon
charged blaster cannon is the vanilla mega man reference
hollow shell
from Martians :P
pale bluff
I'll just stop making Suggestions
Since randoms shit on it and I get ❕ because of it, making me less inspired to make any more
the only good one I made was a Sage Shovel and that was it
distant gyro
❕ -Added automatically to suggestions, signifying that this suggestion hasn't been reviewed by a moderator yet. The suggestion's star is subject to removal if it breaks any rules or for other reasons. Once reviewed, this gets removed.
It doesn't mean it's a bad suggestion
golden kayak
I do not think Summoner should be buffed. I play with a friend as Rogue and after some point he became so much stronger damage wise on bosses and more relaxed while farming because like over 10 minion slots worm or axes are wtf.
pale bluff
A random called my Timepiece suggestion "shit" without any sort of criticism
distant gyro
then you shouldn't care about it if there's no real criticism
hollow shell
Clearly he's the most intelligent being alive and you should listen to him
distant gyro
sleek wadi
Those permanent minion slot upgrades would break everyone except summoner. You can already get an absolutely free Yharon Son by maxing summoner proficiency. Having 3 more investment-free slots means you can just slap on a bewitching table, summoning pot, and Dark Sun Ring to get an easy Cosmic Immat on every class
golden kayak
Yeah, I love getting critiqued when a person really states cons and props, but when smb says "shit" then kick his ass ignore him.
pale bluff
Sors and Altix are one reason I should make another Good suggestion, maybe based off another obscure or unusual weapon
not sure which obscure or unusual weapon
jagged halo
Wait we gave a bunch of critique of why we didn’t like ur suggestion
So did you just ignore that completely
jagged halo
So for the most part terraria items don’t do much unless they help with bosses cus non boss items are just pointless
hollow shell
Suggestions should ideally be more about what the game needs and not what's cool
Coolness is cool and all, but "There should be a way to stop time because iirc there isn't a way to stop time" isn't a good reason
jagged halo
Non boss combat items at least
golden kayak
By "kinda" you mean "one of the best"?
jagged halo
Also coding time stop is really tough
rapid pivot
Maybe better explosives for demolition?
A lot of time is spent building great big arenas underground in Calamity.
hollow shell
What, like
a square explosive?
rapid pivot
Either that, or Dynamite on steroids.
hollow shell
There's Mortar Rounds :P
golden kayak
@rapid pivot the good idea is getting explosives be same pickaxepower% as your best pickaxe using an accessory.
rapid pivot
Those are post-ML.
jagged halo
A square explosion actually sounds amazingly useful
hollow shell
Sounds like a suggestion
faint needle
Yeah
golden kayak
Rocket ⏹️
rapid pivot
like, i remember building an underground jungle arena for plantera
and the dungeon arena
faint needle
Speed run rocket%
rapid pivot
and the WoF/brimmy arena
golden kayak
Dungeon arena?
hollow shell
Polter
rapid pivot
For polter, or ceaseless.
golden kayak
It is post-ml.
faint needle
And there aren't many mods that introduce square arenas makers either
golden kayak
Tedit
dusty stirrup
It is a mod
golden kayak
But i really wonder if it is possible to make something to make explosives more useful. Bc they are fun. But the better question is where you will be fighting endgame bosses if you bomb your world for the whole playthrough
hollow shell
Idea:
Only make worm heads and/or tails vulnerable to DoTs
hollow shell
Worms only got 1 head and 1 tail
sleek wadi
Worms and DoTs are a balance nightmare, it'd just be better to not have them be affected outright.
golden kayak
Offf i misread "vulnerable" as "unvulnerable".
But what is the point, it will not really give any damage output.
hollow shell
True but it's better than nothing
Why be immune to it when the damage is low anyway
hollow saffron
^
sleek wadi
Also this debuff immunity has made some weapons particularly useless. Biome Blade's main gimmick doesn't work on any of the bosses for example.
hollow saffron
who actually legit uses the biome blade in early hardmode
and im talking pre-buff
plucky prairie
biome blade is eh
golden kayak
It gets a buff tho.
golden kayak
I used it for some time.
hollow saffron
madlad
golden kayak
Before getting a Sunken Sea sword.
sleek wadi
Biome Blade USED to be really good, but then it got shoved to HM and was handed a base damage buff before calling it a day.
hollow saffron
smh summons in prehardmode
herring staff
rot ball
bloodclot staff
uH
why not make it a skeletron drop instead
jagged halo
I like the idea of adding more stuff to the dungeon chests
hollow shell
Skeletron is a mothercucker to farm
pale bluff
Because it wouldn't really fit in Skeletron's loot pool
hollow shell
unless you want it to be guaranteed
hollow saffron
ok @pale bluff
jagged halo
The dungeon chest items kinda stink and are basically just materials as of now
hollow saffron
it might as well be guaranteed i guess?
sleek wadi
This thing better spawn alongside dungeon items rather than in place of them.
civic pond
skeletrons loot pool is funky 
jagged halo
I still like the idea of making dungeon chests not useless
hollow saffron
then pull a thorium and allow terra weapons to be crafted
pale bluff
Angry Bones are actual skeletons, not Biomechanical ones tho
jagged halo
Why are you so against just placing it in the chest lol
golden kayak
Aren't there human-ish Summoner minions from OOA boss, dark mage?
jagged halo
Why’s it need it’s own enemy
hollow shell
Yeah it's fine if it gets put in a chest
jagged halo
So
hollow saffron
not exactly mech
jagged halo
Yea exactly
hollow saffron
so biomech wouldnt fit as well imo
hollow shell
That's not what he was arguing
jagged halo
What
civic pond
uh
jagged halo
The original idea was to put it in the dungeon chests
And I think that works just fine
hollow saffron
my reason being that the dungeon feels more undead then mechanicl
maybe add in biomechanical enemies post-Draedon
jagged halo
Not every item in the dungeon chest is undead lol
hollow saffron
yeah i know
jagged halo
In fact none of them are iirc
hollow saffron
hence, why put it in a chest
hollow shell
bruh
golden kayak
and have this weapon be useless like murasomething from Shrine in hell but from golden chests hmmm
jagged halo
Cus dungeon chest as of now is boring as shit?
pale bluff
because Summoners get the short end of the stick in the Dungeon
hollow saffron
also carrygan have you heard of the bone welder or whatever that thing is that makes you able to craft bone furniture
hollow saffron
better yet: put this summon in the chest and add a cursed skull summoner wespon
that drops from cursed skulls
jagged halo
Cursed skulls are pretty useless also yea
golden kayak
Why add 2 tho?
hollow saffron
except for the nazar
jagged halo
Yea even the nazar is craftable right
hollow saffron
why have 2 melee weapons in the dungeon
muramasa and ancient shiv
and blue moon
and valor
4*
rangers get handgun > pheonix blaster
jagged halo
Melee has a lot more ítems in general than every class
hollow saffron
but yeah cursed skulls are useless
so why not have an actual weapon drop from them
golden kayak
I do not remember what is valor tbh.
hollow saffron
dungeon yoyo
jagged halo
It’s a yo-yo
hollow saffron
easily outclassed by the cascade but ok
jagged halo
Most yoyos are outclassed by other yoyos even when they are all obtainable at the same tiers
Cus vanilla yoyo progression is meme
golden kayak
Oh i see.
So 0.5 melee weapons in the dungeon.
hollow saffron
half a weapon is obtainable in the dungeon
distant gyro
Blue Moon is outclassed by Sunfury, Muramasa and Ancient Shiv can directly be upgraded to Night's Edge/Stabber, and Valor is outclassed by Cascade
epic
golden kayak
Murasomething is .125 and flail is .375 (just because calamity adds none at this point, should be fixed imo).
civic pond
wow
pale bluff
The Tooltip I made for the Summon Weapon is p ominous because who knows what creature was in that Dungeon before you
golden kayak
I have no idea about Lore
Or is it just random?
ivory heart
Name.Item.ClentaminatorUpgrade
Crafted from 1 Clentaminator, 5 Luminite Bars, 50 Pearlstone, 50 Ebonstone/Crimstone, 5 Souls of Light, 5 Souls of Night, 15 Pearlwood, 15 Ebonwood/Shadewood.
Changes:
50% chance to not consume solution — solution spray has a chance to split — solution spray has longer reach and wider spread — solution is used at double the rate, cancelling out the 50% chance to not consume solution
Why: the regular Clentaminator is a bit of a pain to use due to its inefficiency when trying to quickly convert an area. An upgrade would definitely fix this problem. Post-ML can be complicated, and for pre-Providence the upgraded Clentaminator, used with Blue Solution, can be used to quickly prepare an area for the Profaned Guardians and Providence.
Names please
rapid pivot
Thoughts on my suggestion?
ivory heart
Exactly
humble pike
@rapid pivot You can name yourself Sam or Sam(Something I dont remember) Then you can.
rapid pivot
... yeah, because that's the reference
humble pike
Still, It's is too Overpowered to have in pre-hardmode.
ivory heart
Anyways hows my Clentaminator upgrade suggestion bc I want feedback
rapid pivot
i think they know what they're doing
rapid pivot
Then don't use it? It's not like the game normally lets you use it that way.
You have to go out of your way and start a whole new character specifically with that in mind
civic pond
im down for a celntaminator upgrade
cerulean vault
You could also have someone who typically uses Sam as a name, but even then most of the time you have to actively look for it and you don't have to use it
cerulean vault
I personally that Murasama is OP in the same way that the Halibut cannon is, and that's fine
Both are obtainable and usable in pre-hardmode, however mostly everyone won't obtain/be able to use them
cerulean vault
I know that
But it's still possible
golden kayak
Wait, you can use Murasomething before Dragon?
rapid pivot
If you name yourself Sam.
cerulean vault
^
golden kayak
I think random Sam may feel disappointed if he uses this in pre-hm and gets pretty nice dps and shreks most of the bosses with it.
smoky wagon
How would you accidentally name yourself Sam and accidentally stumble across the shrine
cerulean vault
Real people are named Sam, and people often use their names for their characters
But you still have to actively look for the shrine
civic pond
just because one person happens to do it lets say is no reason to change anything
smoky wagon
the shrine isnt something you would find on accident though
fresh harbor
smoky wagon
its at the bottom of the underworld randomly at the edge of the map
fresh harbor
Samuel Rodrigues is a very common name in my country so accidental murasama shenanigans are very likely
civic pond
i doubt it
smoky wagon
civic pond
the likely part
cerulean vault
If I personally found an extremely overpowered weapon at any tier, I'd just think "oh, neat" and not use it
golden kayak
I did not mean to fix it. It is just funny because it may happen and most likely happened already poor Sams
cerulean vault
It may have happened to a couple of people at most
civic pond
ok well murasama and halibut aren't getting changed and i forgot why this conversation happened
cerulean vault
Suggestion to weaken the Murasama before Yharon was killed
Just in case anyone was named Sam
civic pond
its the players choice to use murasama or not
golden kayak
@cerulean vault I do not use Rod because i think it is unfair to bosses, not even talking about breaking a progression
Do not nerf them.
I think that there shoul be a suggestion thing like "dislike" or something to possibly prevent some of these.
smoky wagon
honestly RoD isnt that helpful until post-ml for me
cerulean vault
RoD certainly makes things easier, but it doesn't make things too easy, especially with the Rev nerf
And I don't see how this is pertinent to the conversation
golden kayak
@smoky wagon Im on Provi.
smoky wagon
yeah i used it for provi deathray alot
sand umbra
unfair to bosses
smoky wagon
though by then you have the normality relocator
civic pond
i use rod because bosses are unfair to ME
sand umbra
...that has to be the strangest reason for not RoDding I've ever heard.
civic pond
golden kayak
Even more fair
smoky wagon
The bosses’s feelings are hurt if you use RoD
cerulean vault
RoD stands for Rod of Discord
sand umbra
Well too bad if the bosses' feelings are hurt by me using RoD.
My feelings are hurt by Retinazer spawning in homing missiles to cheapshot me like a bitch.
rapid pivot
fuck the twins tbh
sand umbra
*fuck the Mechs
civic pond
fuck draedon
golden kayak
Yeah, I am fucking stupid very fair person, you know. Bosses have feelings. They prepare patterns for you, but you just teleport? They give you a fair fight, but you refuse?
I mean Provi and Potatoes are not fair because projectiles are too hard to see but anyway.
civic pond
BoC teleports too
cerulean vault
Quite a few teleport
hollow saffron
@humble pike did you know the murasama can only be swing post-yharon
whats potatoes
hollow saffron
But thats only Sam
cerulean vault
Still means it's possible
golden kayak
You can swing it if you are Sam or Samuel Rodrigues.
humble pike
^
hollow saffron
the range kills it anyway smh
humble pike
The DPS is about 80000, Without armor or accesories.
golden kayak
Say it to true melee stabby boiz.
I mean range, not damage.
hollow saffron
^
cerulean vault
I'm fine with it since the situation you can use it when it's op is pretty rare/requires pre-planning, and you can just not use it
golden kayak
It is even banned in speedrunning
@humble pike STILL using this if you are Sam is only your choice, no one forces you to do that and chance to get that
- By accident
- Being Sam
- And not being honest with yourself enough to use this
Is pretty low, so I do not think nerf should happen.
Because you can 100% see that this is not okay if your other weapons do not get to 1k dps.
humble pike
It was just my opinion, and my opinion alone, I just feel like it was a bit too OP,
golden kayak
"a bit" is not correct and i see your point but you really should have serious reasoning prove that you suggestion is worth it
cerulean vault
I'd say his reasoning was good enough, it is OP if you can use it pre-Yharon
Though, considering how unlikely it is someone will end up in a situation where they can do that without trying, it's probably just not worth the effort to make this small change
Other things are more important right now
golden kayak
Same for LUL
cerulean vault
Only thing with Lul is that it's explicitly obtainable only after SCal
sand umbra
Murasama is fine as it is.
golden kayak
^
cerulean vault
^
sand umbra
You have to go out of your way and explicitly set up the conditions beforehand to use it pre-Yharon.
And nobody doing a normal run is gonna do that.
And if they do? Let them.
golden kayak
And question is "For what reason would you even do that?"
cerulean vault
To have fun with the item?
Sometimes you just want to decimate everything
cerulean vault
I think the only problem with Murasama is the bug regarding how using it with Luxor's Gift makes it overpowered without setting up the intended circumstances
But that still requires setup
golden kayak
Maybe I am just too boring as a person but I do enjoy being in the worst possible conditions while playing up to the point when it feels unfair.
fervent zealot
oh boy a suggestion to nerf something you have to go out of your way to abuse
civic pond
hollow saffron
^^^^^
golden kayak
RIV for Sun God Staff.
Anubis
Opposes to the god of Sun, Ra.
Summons a Small Anubis above your head (Like Sun God Staff).
Takes up Centry slot.
Anubuf has a staff that shools dark purple (or maybe black) projectiles.
From that point things can be different.
-
If Anubis kill an enemy, it releases a Soul. If a player who holds the centry gets that soul, he will be healed for X or will get buffed.
-
If Anubis kills an enemy, it will resurrect as a mummy.
-
If the owner of the centry gets hit by the centry, the enemy will receive a debuff called "Anubis's tribunal"/"Anubis's court" for 8-10 seconds. While this debuff is active, Anubis will target the enemy and deal additional X00% of damage. If player gets hit by multiple enemies, Anubis attacks all of them.
First two refer to Anubis as a god of Death in Egyptian mythology.
Third one refers to Anubis as a one of Judges in Egyptian mythology.
Also, It can provide Danger sense and Hunter potion effects as Anubis can see the future.
golden kayak
Nonono, Sun God Staff.
fervent zealot
o
golden kayak
Not Spirit one.
fervent zealot
my bad both are shit though so this'd be hot
maybe better as an actual separate item rather than a RIV
golden kayak
I love the possibility to oppose a Sun God
And it might be too sexy for a usual weapon
full bramble
is that a monkey
golden kayak
Monkey?
civic pond
full bramble
anubis seems pretty powerful
golden kayak
Anubis will drop from Lamias with 2.5% chance, I think?
opaque grail
What part of the game is it?
What does "deal additional X00%" mean? how does X change?
What does RIV even mean?
hollow saffron
@opaque grail rare item variant
opaque grail
Ah, okay
Oh, so it's for the Sun God Staff
tbh, even with so many stats saying X (which im guessing means undecided) it looks strong with all the added things, like hitting yourself, mummy armies
opaque grail
I know, I'm saying even without stats, it's the many unique things that seem strong
hollow saffron
RIV's are typically meant to be stronger @novel pebble
novel pebble
Yes but not that strong
novel pebble
Also like these don't have 5 unique abilities
novel pebble
From what I seen, RIVs are usually just copies, but with stronger damage. Or change something small with the original weapon
Not make it stronger and give it 5 unique abilities
plucky prairie
also its spelled "sentry" not "centry"
golden kayak
^ the best thing
marsh egret
My friend and I can't spawn Cryogen. Is this a bug or are we doing something wrong"?
plucky prairie
i think that #help-advice-read-pins or #calamity-mod-talk would be a better place to ask
golden kayak
Changed x00% to %, centry to sentry.
@novel pebble @hollow saffron I find all of these interesting. Anubis will have 1 of these abilities(and maybe potions), the most effective and interesting, I wrote about that.
So OR mummies, OR debuff, OR soul thing. Obviously, combining all of these will be perfectly balanced, as all post-Scal things should be OP.
Oh my god how bad my grammar can even be, i feel so stupid.
radiant meadow
@queen delta Fab already expressed that he won't add Spore Sac to the Amalgam.
Also, moving it to post-Prov ruins the fact that it's kinda a counterpart to CotBG.
However, I do agree the accessory needs a buff.
sinful violet
queen delta
What buffs could the amalgam get to be at the same level as CotBG?
Cuz CotBG lasts well past SCal
And it seems like most of the usefulness from amalgam is from being submerged in liquid
And being post-DoG, theres really no reason to go for some liquid
zealous ridge
hmmm
radiant meadow
what makes cotbg good besides flesh totem effect and glass cannon boost?
queen delta
flesh totem effect?
radiant meadow
halves contact dmg every 20 s
queen delta
oh that
radiant meadow
and how could you make the amalgam good enough to mirror said effects in a unique way that makes it viable (not the same effects of course)
queen sail
We could try to balance them out
Though I feel like saying nerf cotbg is...well...
:taxevasion:
queen delta
Perhaps you get stat boosts for not being submerged in liquid?
zealous ridge
just an idea, but maybe you could be temporarily surrounded in, like, a lava bubble that temporarily grants you the effects of being in water or lava after doing something like taking damage or something?
queen delta
Like, if you get damage boost for being underwater, you could get crit chance boost for not being in water
queen sail
They need ups and downs that counter each other
So the player can make their own choice over which one they want
queen delta
And increased jump speed when in air, in comparison to increased movement speed
plucky prairie
@zealous ridge like the amidias bubble buff or w/e its called?
zealous ridge
yeah kind of like that?
maybe it could be built up over time or applied when you take damage
it would give the water and lava based effects their time in the spotlight without having the player be forced to make a water-based arena
queen delta
I think the fungal clump could also get some buffs besides damage and range
radiant meadow
make it faster tbh
zealous ridge
yeah i agree, plus personally i feel the design of it is a bit strange, maybe it could become like an amalgam drone which heals you with orbs and like shoots lasers?
radiant meadow
it's slow af and can never catch up to yharon
zealous ridge
im kind of going for the weird ideas here but idk
radiant meadow
I wish it was as fast as psa
zealous ridge
that would be good
queen delta
Like, perhaps, make it do classless damage instead of summon damage, increase the speed, and the orbs would also provide some damage boosts, defense boosts, and critical strike chance boosts, along with healing
zealous ridge
orbs should go further too
radiant meadow
making it do classless dmg would fuck up phm summoner
queen delta
How so
radiant meadow
it won't get summoner dmg boosts then
zealous ridge
it doesnt have to be changed for the fungal clump itself in any case, although it would be a bit of an odd jump
radiant meadow
the accessories summon the same minion
I think doing summon dmg is fine
afterall, it is a summon
and the summoner nerf was lessened again in the past update
queen delta
Well, yes, but CotBG is equally beneficial to all classes, while amalgam is a bit leaned towards summoner
radiant meadow
boosting its dmg might be preferable instead
the only summoner part is the fungal clump
(and ngl, it's useless for summoner anyways w/o buffs)
queen delta
Perhaps there could be a new minion that is an upgrade to fungal clump that benefits all classes by healing, along with the 3 boosts said above?
zealous ridge
notably one of the few effects that works outside of a liquid, which is why i think not many people use it
radiant meadow
I don't like the idea of a minion doing typeless instead of summon dmg tbh
queen delta
Just merely putting in the same minion for something thats many tiers ahead seems pretty lazy
golden kayak
"Marble biome shrine"
ivory heart
It exists, so it must be tested
radiant meadow
golden kayak
Maybe if you do not mind, may I get constructive criticism and choosing effect on Anubis.
@ivory heart Errrrm... no? It is literally lul.
Same with murasomething from hell. It works only with name.
ivory heart
Ok
golden kayak
I like them in 2-3-1.
brittle merlin
I just feel that the last one might be annoying to code
With it targeting enemies and all
golden kayak
So, if @ivory heart @radiant meadow @queen delta do not mind giving an opinion I wanna leave just one already.
Yeah maybe.
plucky prairie
does anyone know if suggestions to change exo weapons are allowed?
radiant meadow
you can post it here first
plucky prairie
legit the only thing i have is that the oracle shouldnt have the lines of energy going out to the circle
i think it'd look nicer
radiant meadow
@golden kayak make it drop only post mechs and make it a 0.5% drop chance for consistency
golden kayak
I feel like Lamia is quite a rare enemy, isn't it?
It least in my experience.
But fine.
brittle merlin
Not for me
radiant meadow
well, at most 1%
plucky prairie
i'd say its more of a slightly uncommon enemy
radiant meadow
for reference, tactical skeletons drop confernece call at 0.5%
angry dogs drop cryophobia at 1%
plucky prairie
not the type of thing you'd usually spend forever trying to find them
golden kayak
(Moth)
radiant meadow
riv drop chance rule of thumb:
0.5% for common enemies
1% for rarer enemies
2.5% for bosses
golden kayak
Ok, so 1%.
queen delta
and 10% for that one rare enemy