crafted from the solar pillar i assume
#suggestions-discussion
civic pond
smoky wagon
probably
frail mantle
pandemic and chaotrix
frail mantle
maybe the Overflo-Yo could gain the ability to spawn Cthulhunadoes post-Cultist, and it leaves a homing bubble trail at all times
civic pond
duke does lack calamity drops
civic pond
how about a sharkron instead
frail mantle
it occasionally spawns tornadoes upon enemy hits
civic pond
they pierce?
bitter drift
a duke fishron yo-yo?
frail mantle
yea
bitter drift
ok
civic pond
better than a normal yoyo that just shoots projectiles i guess
even better with the bubble trail
smoky wagon
Would the bubbles work like quagmire clouds
bitter drift
maybe a yharon upgrade? where instead of getting the yo-yo summon tornados some time
make it fire a fire tornado to the direction of the enemy that you hit
civic pond
yeah that'll work
ivory heart
Halibut Cannon V2 (Biscuit Cannon)
Shoots 12-18 bullets every 6 (11) ticks. The bullets deal ~48/64 (Post-Yharon) damage each.
Crafted using a Halibut Cannon, 90 Voidstone, 25 Depth Cells, 5 Cloaking Glands, 25 Tenebris, 15 Reaper Teeth, 7 Chaotic Bars, 15 Ectoplasm, 15 Phantoplasm, and 5 Ruinous Souls.
This suggestion was created in memorial of TotalHalibut, whom the Halibut Cannon was dedicated to.
I’m not sure if this is even allowed but I’ll see anyway. If not then at least I tried
bitter drift
no need to
smoky wagon
Why are you reposting it
civic pond
Halibut 2?
ivory heart
whoop
civic pond
we dont need that
smoky wagon
it wont be a thing
ivory heart
Well after Moon Lord the Halibut Cannon stops boosting
smoky wagon
They literally said it wont get in
ivory heart
The Halibut stops becoming useful as a weapon once the Moon Lord has been defeated
zealous ridge
halibut itself as a reference I think is fine as it is
smoky wagon
They said in the screenshot you put it wont get in
civic pond
halibut was never meant to be useful
zealous ridge
no need for a v2
smoky wagon
Just drop it
ivory heart
ok
civic pond
its more of a trophy than anything else
frail mantle
what i've got so far:
Overflo-Yo
Post-Duke Fishron Yo-Yo
When thrown leaves a trail of homing bubbles that act like the ones fired from the Flailron. Upon defeating the Lunatic Cultist, when this Yo-Yo hits an enemy, there's a chance to spawn a mini Cthulhunado that lingers in the air and damage enemies for five seconds. If a Mini Cthulhunado appears while the user is riding the Cute Fishron mount, the Mini Cthulhunado will fire Sharkrons at enemies.
Either dropped by Duke Fishron or sold by Amidias after Duke Fishron has been defeated.
Reason for this suggestion: Trying to use Yo-Yos Post-Golem is quite hard, as there are only two post-Golem Yo-Yos in Calamity, both of which aren't very viable. Also, Duke Fishron is a pretty challenging boss, so having more rewards for beating him would be nice.
civic pond
at the risk of ruining your playthrough
ivory heart
That’s very good @frail mantle
smoky wagon
But its useful regardless 
frail mantle
thank
ivory heart
Keep it up and Fabsol may need to consider hiring you imo
smoky wagon
Its been awhile since the yoyo craze
bitter drift
GoDM maybe you think of a yharon upgrade?
civic pond
after the whole obliterator fiasco
bitter drift
yharon phase 2 yo-yoer doesn't suck anymore?
zealous ridge
Yharon melee weapon choices are fine there are 5
frail mantle
Obliterator got buffed
bitter drift
ok
bitter drift
is there anything we need to add?
bitter drift
brb got to make food
zealous ridge
rip mourningstar sigh
zealous ridge
mmm
bitter drift
back\
frail mantle
your suggestion is nearly at 90 stars
zealous ridge
my thunderbird idea was also drowned (rip more ranger stuff for yharon p2)
yeah it’s close
smoky wagon
Mine blew up
bitter drift
where is it?
smoky wagon
thankfully
civic pond
what was it again?
zealous ridge
true statigel?
frail mantle
it's the one right before the SDOMG
smoky wagon
true statigel armor
bitter drift
ok i stared it
zealous ridge
wait uhhh how does like more post dog armor sets sound, like single class armors for yharon p1 (maybe p2)
frail mantle
you mean class-specific armor sets?
zealous ridge
yeah
bitter drift
is there any place in need of a weapon?
smoky wagon
well i would make it a class specific set
zealous ridge
I’m thinking upgrades to the post plantera / golem armors
smoky wagon
but having a single class specific set post-ml makes no sense
terse sundial
i sent it but idk how to feel about it
smoky wagon
I do think upgraded spectre armor with a phantoplasm theme would be cool
signal prairie
The yoyo one is a bit complex
civic pond
I mean isn't true statigel equivalent to omega blue essentially?
just for the tier prior
smoky wagon
pretty much
civic pond
👍
bitter drift
can i know if there is a place in need to a certain weapon?
zealous ridge
I was thinking more twisting nether, like.
Armored shells upgrade beetle armor
Dark plasma upgrades shroomite
Twisting nether upgrades spectre
and like something different for tiki/spooky (maybe nightmare fuel)
smoky wagon
that sounds cool
smoky wagon
spectre armor i feel like should use phantoplasm to upgrade
civic pond
no one uses spectre anymore i swear 
zealous ridge
it would be a long few suggestions, like armor and a few themed upgrades to previous weapons
smoky wagon
spectre armor is good
bitter drift
sadly there is another armor set that took ruinous souls
smoky wagon
until ataxia
zealous ridge
and phantoplasm Specre sounds nice as well
civic pond
lifesteal on that thing is overpowered
despite the damage nerf
I like the choice between glass cannon and survivability on spec armor
civic pond
eh
smoky wagon
Spectre mask is better
By quite alot
Upgraded spectre armor maybe could combine both headpieces
zealous ridge
what if you could, for the spectre upgrade, build up lifesteal and damage phantoms as you deal damage,and when you press armor set bonus the souls all disperse and either heal you or damage enemies
bitter drift
there are 2 ruinous souls armor sets.
bitter drift
i don't see a way to get in a 3th one
zealous ridge
oh are you talking about true statis? Or something else
bitter drift
no the phantoplasem one
zealous ridge
it doesn’t have to use ruinous souls
civic pond
you only have to beat signus for it
bitter drift
so what it will be post moon lord?
zealous ridge
It could just use like phantoplasm, cosmilite and, spectre armor (maybe twisting nether)
bitter drift
you don't need an armor post DoG
zealous ridge
I’m saying they’re post dog because I agree post polterghast has okay armor selection but post dog has only godslayer
bitter drift
actually now that i'm thinking a post moon lord armor does sound good
zealous ridge
post ml has the lunar armors and xeroc which is good imo
bitter drift
Lunar armor? 
zealous ridge
bitter drift
radiant meadow
chaotrix and pandemic are viable though? 
bitter drift
not at these bosses
radiant meadow
also, chaotrix got a bit of a nerf like two updates ago because it was too strong
chaotrix is pretty strong for astrum deus
bitter drift
everything else it's does nothing
PBG = only heart PBG
ravage - only 1 segment at a time
bitter drift
because he is always close
radiant meadow
and like yoyos being bad against multiple targets is kinda a given
that's how yoyos are
bitter drift
but you don't use it's power without any multiple targets
zealous ridge
Yeah does post polterghast really need magic weapons?
bitter drift
NAAAAAAA
frail mantle
post-Polter mage is pretty strong
civic pond
ghastly visage
zealous ridge
the ruinous soul dungeon staff upgrades too
bitter drift
the sentinel wands
frail mantle
also the Dark Spark
ivory heart
I was intending for this to originally be a ranged weapon
Then I realized it fits more for magic than ranged
zealous ridge
Venusian and phantasmal fury work great against dog
frail mantle
still, you haven't really stated why this weapon should be added
civic pond
phantasmal fury really?
zenith hazel
dark spark 
civic pond
zenith hazel
yeah phantasmal is good
zealous ridge
phantasmal is good change my mind
zenith hazel
if anything, ranger needs a good weapon for DoG
ivory heart
ok
zenith hazel
mage already has a ton
ivory heart
Aether’s whisper
zealous ridge
Ranger has sea dragon and like uh daemons/storm?
Aethers takes a god awful amount of time with ranger
zenith hazel
especially since it got nerfed
zealous ridge
yeah
ivory heart
At lease provide a good pre-HiveMind ranged armor set
bitter drift
maybe a prov flamethrower for DoG
zealous ridge
or polterghast flamethrower
ivory heart
@bitter drift I have a name
Holy Flameblaster
zenith hazel
I think there was a flamethrower sug a while ago that was related to ink
bitter drift
i prefer the god of the SUN to have a FLAMETHROWER
zenith hazel
it went poof
bitter drift
ya i remember
zealous ridge
oh yes I remember that one
ivory heart
The god of good discord suggestions
bitter drift
but still i'm a bit confused that the goddess of the sun doesn't have a flamethrower
zealous ridge
tbh she has 2 ranged weapons right? Telluric and bombardier
bitter drift
ya one of them isn't that good
zealous ridge
if anything she needs a summoner drop (besides prof artifact which is okay but not dropped directly)
zealous ridge
that’s fair
frail mantle
post-ml summoner in general is great enough tbh
zenith hazel
cosmilamp has insane dps and is dq bait
civic pond
here i am using ethereal subjugator
zealous ridge
civic pond
👍
zenith hazel
well it’s good but I wouldn’t recommend it by any means I guess
frail mantle
the only post-ML summoner weapons that aren't dq bait are Subjugators, Calamaris and Cosmimmaterializers
zenith hazel
^
zealous ridge
what does DQ mean tho I have no brain
zenith hazel
nuggets and worm completely shit on yharon when he is standing still
frail mantle
disqualify
zenith hazel
disqualification (nohits)
frail mantle
^
bitter drift
is there any place i can put a suggestion?
zealous ridge
ahh
zenith hazel
we usually use dq bait to indicate how broken or great a weapon is
zealous ridge
okay
frail mantle
DQ bait means something that's so good that it has a high chance to disqualify your nohit
zenith hazel
that too
zealous ridge
ah yes because of the dps limit?
smoky wagon
a vortex beater+butcher upgrade made with ruinous souls
zealous ridge
mmmmmmmmm
frail mantle
dps limit and other things
smoky wagon
Every shotgun blast includes a homing grenade
zealous ridge
sounds hot
bitter drift
that sound good the the phangasm of guns
ivory heart
True Shadow Armor/True Crimson Armor
Crafted using Demonite Bars and True Shadow Scales (True Shadow) or Crimtane Bars and Blood Samples (True Crimson).
True Shadow set bonus: You leave behind cursed shade gas, causing enemies to erupt in green flames
True Crimson set bonus: Melee, ranged, and rogue weapons are tinged with Ichor, reducing enemy defense with 25% chance for melee, 10% chance for ranged, and 30% chance for rogue
zenith hazel
isn’t there already true shadow armor?
frail mantle
why should it be added
bitter drift
no
zealous ridge
Would it be themed around ruinous souls tho guwa?
smoky wagon
Probably
zenith hazel
why though? aerospec is available
zealous ridge
nice
bitter drift
what is the weapon?
frail mantle
Soul Bomber
smoky wagon
vortex beater+butcher upgrade themed around ruinous souls
earnest raptor
Devourer of Beasts
400 melee damage
Post-DoG true melee shortsword
Inflicts God Slayer Inferno
Feed your dog
Stabby at player DoG's final phase head (6 blocks-wide) , that executes a biting animation. That head ignores immunity frames.
If enemy have less 5000 hp, it's actually devoured and player take random buff to damage, defense, crit chance and life regeneration. That don't work, if enemy are post-ML (including ML and buffed bosses in post-ML) boss or he have more that 80% damage reduction.
Right click will rapidly shoots inaccurate and short-ranged DoG's lasers, that inflicts God Slayer Inferno and ignores immunity frames.
Craft: 20 Cosmilite Bars + 5 Armored Shell + 5 Twisting Nether + 5 Dark Plasma @ Draedon's Forge
Reason:
I love funny weapons. I like how some weapons have silly concept but are useful in practice. That shortsword are good for clearing some minions and can be decent for Yharon or Mothron.
ivory heart
Shadow and crimson armor are powerful armor sets when you get them, and a post-Hive Mind upgrade would make sense, considering that they are basically a more powerful EoW/BoC
zenith hazel
but... aerospec
zealous ridge
Will of Despair, guwa?
smoky wagon
ivory heart
@earnest raptor yes
smoky wagon
having an upgrade to an armor set right after you just got the original feels odd
frail mantle
^
ivory heart
Ok
bitter drift
maybe a hard mode armor this should be
smoky wagon
also could use cursed flames+ichor
zealous ridge
ooh have it used cursed inferno/ichor so the refights become more of a strategic desision
ivory heart
Thanks
bitter drift
also it does inflict Ichor
earnest raptor
My suggestion is decent?
frail mantle
it's a bit hard to understand
is it a shiv that fires the Apotheosis main projectile that ignores i-frames and vores weak enemies?
bitter drift
sound OP
earnest raptor
@frail mantle no
It's separate.
And only 6 blocks-wide.
Thinked about Apotheosis for right click, but I thank that it would be too insane.
bitter drift
is there any place that need any type of weapon?
zealous ridge
post darksun ranger has like 1 ranged weapon besides the drops from yharon
bitter drift
ok thank you
smoky wagon
this is darksun tier
bitter drift
no
zealous ridge
Tarragon already has a bow tbh
smoky wagon
^
smoky wagon
not really
zealous ridge
cross bow made from sentinel mats?
earnest raptor
There should be substance
DoB can provide buffs for killing invasion monsters.
zealous ridge
or is that oversaturation of sentinel mats items
smoky wagon
seadragon already exists
zealous ridge
yeah fair
bitter drift
maybe a dark sun repeater/crossbow?
zealous ridge
manipulator is ranged isn’t it?
ivory heart
Eclipse Crossbow
zealous ridge
darksun crossbow would be cool, would that just be a standalone weapon or an upgrade
zealous ridge
Sure
zealous ridge
hmmmmmm chlorophyte shotbow? Impaler?
bitter drift
could be
smoky wagon
ballista upgrade
bitter drift
if there was a shroomite one...
smoky wagon
Or maybe raiders glory
bitter drift
now that i think of it chlorophyte and perennial should have a terragon upgrade
zealous ridge
Better yet combine ballista with some other bow hmmmmm
bitter drift
what do you think?
zealous ridge
civic pond
no true melee post devourer?
smoky wagon
wouldnt be a repeater
bitter drift
ballista to the sand shark upgrade
smoky wagon
enforcer has a true melee effect
signal prairie
Enforcer is strong but requires high IQ
civic pond
its true melee effect is the laggiest thing in the game when used on devourer
zealous ridge
it’s just a fire ball
smoky wagon
high iq would be eradicator or neptune’s bounty maybe
civic pond
thats fine
signal prairie
The projectile doesnt home and is somewhat slow moving
civic pond
the damage itself is insane
bitter drift
hey maybe an entire crossbow line of chlorophyte or perennial to tarragon to dark sun
smoky wagon
needing to aim=high iq
zealous ridge
That doesn’t nessecarily make a weapon high iq
hollow shell
@ivory heart Reason for Soulbound Fury?
civic pond
ivory heart
Soulbound Fury was originally ranged @hollow shell
bitter drift
so
hollow shell
No I mean why are you suggesting it
bitter drift
there is still a need for a reason
zealous ridge
mmmmm I like it
ivory heart
Soulbound Fury
I wanted to make a soul type weapon that would cause debuffs as well
So in June O posted Soulbound Fury onto the suggestions channel
I didn’t yet realize what Calamity balancing was but I liked the idea so I posted it again
zealous ridge
Liking the idea of new ranger options for dog
hollow shell
That's not much of a reason why it should be implemented in Calamity
Come up with one
then add it to the suggestion via editing
ivory heart
Ok
hollow shell
Remember folks
the reason should come first
ivory heart
Done
bitter drift
what do you think of a terregon crossbow somewhat sors?
radiant meadow
what's wrong with nettlevine greatbow?
bitter drift
ok
i just trying to think of places to put weapons any weapons in
do you have a place?
hollow shell
I guess not, not off the top of my head at least
bitter drift
the place i was suggested to make one is post yharon's first place
smoky wagon
I have my own private discord to dump walls of text in
Like this one
Pluto’s Gate (post-Polter gun)
1 Butcher/ 1 Vortex Beater/ 3 Ruinous Souls/ 15 Phantoplasm/ 9 Cores of Eleum @ Ancient Manipulator
Fires shotgun blasts with increasing accuracy and speed the longer the cursor held, which increases in a shorter amount of time than the Butcher. Each shotgun blast includes a homing phantasmal grenade.
Reason: Currently ranger’s options for DoG are iffy, with the best gun available being the Seadragon, a sentinel weapon, and only two other post-Polter options to use, which lack high-velocity projectiles to easily hit DoG’s head/tail with. Adding a new firearm would help the class in this stage of the game and give it more variety.
frail mantle
looks nice
smoky wagon
alright
echo horizon
good
bitter drift
sound like a no need for chlorophyte bullets gun type
smoky wagon
thats most guns
bitter drift
naaaa
bitter drift
grenades is this an explosive weapon
smoky wagon
its a vortex beater upgrade
bitter drift
ah
do you think that auric ore should be a post phase one yharon to make more suggestion?
i think the reason of lack of weapon for these places is the lacks of subjects at these places
yharon(any phase) = 1
DoG = 1
pre DoG = 2
places with lots of weapons
post golem = 3
calamitas = 3
pre boss = 3
and don't say balance because you still need the soul fragments
zenith hazel
draedon is coming anyway so auric ore is likely getting moved
bitter drift
to where?
hollow shell
Nah Auric Ore shouldn't be post-P1
That's what Darksun Fragments are for
bitter drift
look at the point i made
zenith hazel
it’s up to the devs to decide what to do between yharon and draedon
hollow shell
Also if you moved it and changed nothing else there wouldn't be any change in the weapon count
because all Exo-weapons also require Yharon Soul Fragments
and if you move those too
then
what does beating Yharon mean?
bitter drift
guess you right
it's just my thinking of there are to little ideas to go of to make weapons
or even anything
just look everywhere with lots of weapons there is lot's of subjects
everywhere with little amount of weapons there is 1-2 subjects
golden kayak
Invent direct upgrades.
zealous ridge
are you saying, like, there need to be more materials added for new upgrades?
golden kayak
Or make interesting sub-class suggestions.
Flamethrowers.
bitter drift
ChozoChorizo kind of
zealous ridge
I think that’s fair. but mechanics wise, it’s not nessecary to add more. I agree that it would be nice for some new themes to be added
golden kayak
I am not saying that.
For example I think think that pre-hm needs Snow biome ingredient.
Like mid or kinda early preHM or something.
bitter drift
like look at pre game and look at post phase 1 yharon
zealous ridge
yeah I see what you mean
zenith hazel
pre-game and post-p1 are 2 completely different things what
golden kayak
^
bitter drift
look at them for a second
one have TONS of places to go to
the other have 1
zenith hazel
it’s because it’s pre-game, ofc you have a shit ton of places to go
bitter drift
the first one have lots of weapons to make
the other have only some
zealous ridge
I guess the point he’s trying to make is that having 1 material for darksun is more limiting than the variety of materials you can use to make uniuqe weapons with in like pregame
zenith hazel
by p1, you’ve pretty much explored 100% of the map
it’s the end of the game, ofc you have nowhere to go but forward
it’s linear during endgame, and it’s open-world pre-hm
besides, you can still explore for missing ingredients
bitter drift
yes it is and i think that the reason for the limited amount of weapons
zealous ridge
i think there is merit behind wanting more variety post moon lord
bitter drift
yes because there is a weapon for almost every class and subclass
bitter drift
it look like a 200% mod
zealous ridge
I think he means like brand new stuff, like take new materials from the jungle for an example maybe
golden kayak
@bitter drift Not for every subclass 101%
bitter drift
i said almost
zenith hazel
also because endgame is the culmination of everything so far, ofc it has little choice
pre-hm is where you’re free to experiment, endgame is where everything you’ve learned or obtained combines into a certain ultimate weapon
zealous ridge
also I don’t think saying the mod is unfishished is an excuse for not asking for variety, they’re just suggestions imo
zenith hazel
they’re expanding endgame, so ofc it’s incomplete
zealous ridge
yes true
bitter drift
also want another place with lots of weapons because of lots of subjects POST POLTER it have so many weapons (sadly for 1 class)
zealous ridge
but is that a reason to not suggest ideas for endgame stuff?
golden kayak
And it is really may ne interesting to combine different weapon's effects. Even from different classes.
zenith hazel
it may look lackluster for now but look back a few years from now and you’ll see the difference
because endgame stuff is way too complex
zenith hazel
shadowspec has a shit ton of weapons anyway
bitter drift
i'm not talking auric
zenith hazel
the list is ever expanding
golden kayak
@zenith hazel @zealous ridge What do you think about Snow-themed preHM ingredient.
zealous ridge
hmmmmmm
bitter drift
why?
zealous ridge
like icy shard from thorium?
golden kayak
Later in the game.
bitter drift
that is pre boss
zenith hazel
victory shards are good enough for a pre-boss ingredient
bitter drift
also snow have 4 places looked at it
golden kayak
We have a TONNNN of desert-themed stuff and even a boss.
Snow gains no love 
zealous ridge
he meant later with the ice thing, but I personally don’t see a point
zenith hazel
cryogen in hardmode?
zealous ridge
snow has cryogenic what
zenith hazel
cryonic ore later on?
bitter drift
snow in PHM
cryonic and cryogen bars in HM
and the endothermic energy post DoG
golden kayak
These are hm.
Even "kinda rare" one for a few weapons like Desert Feather.
From Angry Doggo for ex.
zealous ridge
angry dog has leather which is helpful
golden kayak
Yeah, but you can craft it.
zealous ridge
Although I admit that’s not the best source
zenith hazel
imagine farming leather from angry dogs
zealous ridge
golden kayak
zealous ridge
I guess cryophobia too
bitter drift
i can see that
zealous ridge
but that is riv
golden kayak
Cryophobia is kinda a different story.
zealous ridge
yeah fair
golden kayak
^^^
zealous ridge
just bringing up points
golden kayak
And I can see a weapon that summons tiny angry doggos, a spelltome that shoots ice spears and some other stuff like
Frostburn Flamethrower
Or maybe flying owls for summons.
Shooting snow or ramming enemies.
A lot of interesting variants.
zenith hazel
we already have an angry dog mount, do we really need a summoner weapon?
golden kayak
Yeah that is why i thought about owls.
zenith hazel
besides, angry dogs as minions sounds like hermit crabs
golden kayak
Good point 🤔
Or we maybe can add some recipes for snow biome without adding new material.
Requiring snowball cannon or something.
smoky wagon
frost bolt and icicle staff are a thing
golden kayak
There are some, yeah.
zenith hazel
uzi?
smoky wagon
also seadragon exists already
bitter drift
ok i suck at english
smoky wagon
😔
bitter drift
here fixed
zenith hazel
again, look up stuff before you type
smoky wagon
Its like a sniper rifle?
signal prairie
The Uzi is a vanilla weapon
bitter drift
golden kayak
There is a weapon that shoots rapidly or that level, isn't it?
signal prairie
less lag most likely
bitter drift
this is the debuff for it's speed and homing
smoky wagon
zenith hazel
faster than p90? impossible
bitter drift
nope
bitter drift
that are invisible
bitter drift
is there a way to do it
golden kayak
I do not see the point of invisible bullets still.
I wanna check for some interesting weapons and a way to upgrade them.
bitter drift
it was a more lore related feature
i was thing this weapon is like a weapon showing the "relationship" of DoG and SV
smoky wagon
Storm weaver?
What does invisible bullets have to do with storm weaver
Also again, storm weaver has two guns from it
bitter drift
you know what nvm
smoky wagon
zenith hazel
yes, an invisible bullet gun will surely showcase the “student-teacher” relationship between SW and DoG
bitter drift
showing him how to enter and go through the dimensions at least something but nvm
zenith hazel
a portal gun would make way more sense
smoky wagon
Weaponized portal gun
hollow shell
Oh boy, modifying vanilla worldgen
civic pond
hollow shell
Or at least
having Calamity stuff generate mid-vanilla-worldgen
which I don't know if that's possible
zealous ridge
Yeah I was wondering if code was ech on that
vocal grotto
Sunken Sea? You mean the abyss?
hollow shell
Sunken Sea can also fuck the Dungeon
ashen warren
All i'm asking is to add lore for things outside off Important figures, biomes and bosses
for my suggestion
civic pond
yeah
unique vector
additionally making lore for more minor aspects of the game is low priority
civic pond
even if its just small tidbits of information for enemies i'd find it interesting
unique vector
considering lore for major parts aren’t even fully complete
unique vector
mm
lost agate
Bestiary is like... Pretty far away
signal prairie
Souls of the Bosses
The souls only drop on the first kill of <Insert Boss Here> and sell for a pretty large amount of gold. The sell price for the souls is already set for each soul and these souls do nothing.
Why?: This is purely to make farming gold easier and will help if the player wants good reforges throughout the game. Purely to make gold farming easier.
(Sprites coming soon)
civic pond
cryogen vs genesis
vocal grotto
Why? Money is super easy to get in Terraria
signal prairie
I've yet to explain the twist
pale bluff
So uh, did anyone really like my Mysterious Magenta Gem idea for Calamity?
civic pond
then do explain
Also on the note of the bestiary i just wanna know will there be info on enemies planned to go in it
i know its priority is like lower than low
signal prairie
The twist is the sell price goes up throughout progression, like for example, after Perfs/HM has been defeated the sell price goes up, same with SG and more
So either you can sell them right away or save them and get mad money like that
vocal grotto
Still, I don't see the point.
vocal grotto
hollow shell
I get the idea though
signal prairie
I was planning on expanding the sell price, making it go up with each difficult
hollow shell
Adding another thing to drop from all bosses might be annoying though, especially if it's entirely worthless except to sell
smoky wagon
Are these based off of the dark souls boss souls
signal prairie
I was thinking just having the boss itself drop the soul instead of the bag
I wasn't going to suggest it until I had all the souls sprited
signal prairie
yep
signal prairie
I havent sprited a single one yet lol
hollow shell
Alternative suggestion:
Make the lore items have super high value
civic pond
hollow shell
for their tier
signal prairie
oh
civic pond
actually
signal prairie
that is a dangerous suggestion sors
smoky wagon
Though i tend to be pretty ambitious with my spritework
hollow shell
So you have a dilemma of whether you want to keep the one-of-a-kind function or to make bank
smoky wagon
I would sell a ton of lore items in a heartbeat
civic pond
tbf some of them are nigh useless
smoky wagon
SCal lore item 
signal prairie
I dont use many Lore items tbh
smoky wagon
the best ones are the item range boosters
civic pond
^
civic pond
what does provi do again?
civic pond
smoky wagon
provi is +5% dmg and holy flames on all projectiles
signal prairie
Suggest a resprite to the lore items and adding mad sell prices for them
civic pond
EoW is epic
smoky wagon
skeletron and cultist lore is good for the biome/event that follows them
signal prairie
I'mma do that
civic pond
also doms suggestion would prevent more well thought out suggestions from being drowned.. i think
hollow shell
Thousands of suggestions have gotten sent in and barely any get implemented anyway
Fab said a short while ago that he'd be makin an effort to go through sent suggestions and approve or reject em, and maybe implement some
And some did get implemented
but then he got burnt out (for unrelated reasons?) and also got busy with testing
I think some suggestions getting drowned out
even if they're good
isn't that bad of a thing
because we already have tons of successful suggestions in the archive
smoky wagon
i just think at some point the dev team should do a suggestion update
which takes a bunch of really good ones
and makes them a thing
they are stacking up
hollow shell
I'd like that but they're busy with something else atm
and will be busy with the update after this next one
civic pond
so most of these greenchecked suggestions are just archived..? thats kinda what im getting at here
hollow shell
so I don't know when that's gonna be happening
smoky wagon
Yeah maybe after draedon is in the mod
civic pond
or just straight up rejected
faint needle
After when they finish main updates maybe
smoky wagon
Its not like yharim will come immediately after i imagine
hollow shell
That'd be in fucking 2022 lmao
signal prairie
I just hope the one I suggested about making Prism Shards a light source for NPCs is going to make it in
vocal grotto
Greencheck means they're being looked over by devs iirc
civic pond
i know that much
hollow shell
When a suggestion gets greenchecked it gets sent into a channel in the dev server, a dev or two comments on it with approval or rejection or just some tidbit, and then it's done with.
smoky wagon
the problem is the people who have them delivered have no idea what the fuck happened to their sugg
i feel like some sort of feedback system would be nice
civic pond
yeah..
vocal grotto
Maybe suggestionbot could DM you with the results
frail mantle
that'd be cool
hollow shell
Well the vast majority of cases are
"It was sent in and now it's there. Something might happen with it in the future 🤷"
smoky wagon
Yeah i mean after it was officially reviewed
vocal grotto
Well, waiting is better than not getting any response
civic pond
so do some of them just kinda sit there awaiting?
terse sundial
suggestion bot would be nice
smoky wagon
if you hadnt gotten any message yet you would know it wasnt reviewed
civic pond
^
zenith hazel
hell yes to Dom
signal prairie
I really hope the one I suggested about making Prism Shards a light source for NPCs is going to make it in because it would make Sunken Sea house even more beautiful
civic pond
as long as it doesn't cause lag im good
hollow shell
Oh boy it's a reference for the sake of a reference
smoky wagon
vocal grotto
hollow shell
It is
civic pond
ok
hollow shell
There is a reason on the suggestion but like
are we in any shortage of strong weapons in the post-Plantera tier?
civic pond
asking a question in a suggestion
frail mantle
if there is one suggestion i really wish was added it'd be the Minion Attention Catcher i suggested some months ago
civic pond
zenith hazel
all 5 classes get way stronger post-plant
civic pond
thats what terra stuff is for no?
@frail mantle anything that makes minions less retarded im down for
hollow shell
There's the Summoner Association mod which helps with that
frail mantle
yea but what i suggested would let you actually control what the minion is attacking properly
not just "target it and hope the minions obey"
vocal grotto
If the thing with Fab saying I might be able to help in the the future comes to pass, I'd be more than happy with making summon behaviors smarter
civic pond
my first time playing summoner i thought they would just follow my mouse cursor
vocal grotto
zenith hazel
Dom for dev
vocal grotto
We'll see. I don't want to get too complacent with the idea. But we're getting a little offtopic here.
I just hope my suggestion of getting rid of bad ideas doesn't get drowned out.
signal prairie
I actually have an accessory in the Suggestion doc I'm creating for summoners that allow them to control their summons by holding right-click
vocal grotto
That... would not be fun to program
civic pond
that sounds pretty ironic
also if you were able to control summons by holding down wouldn't that solve the problem...?
im dense
cobalt lotus
signal prairie
It would only affect summons that aren't effected by gravity
vocal grotto
Well, the issue is that you'd have to adjust the mouse cursor movement for each summon so it doesn't look/feel weird
civic pond
then again i was only thinking about stardust dragon
civic pond
probably has the most retarded ai in the game
signal prairie
This is the Soul sprite I did for Soul of King Slime, this corresponds to my Souls of bosses that sell well suggestion
civic pond
signal prairie
Just scroll up
plucky matrix
pale bluff
Made a better suggestion
vocal grotto
looks at suggestion I made
pale bluff
This time it's a Monk's Shovel instead of "hur durr reference time"
signal prairie
Again, if you'd scroll up, you'd see the suggestion
pale bluff
@vocal grotto Your suggestion is a good one tbh
ivory heart
Add Terra Blade to the crafting recipe for the Ark of the Elements
Why: The Terra weapons can be upgraded into the Elemental variants of the weapons, with the only exception being the Terra Blade and the Ark of the Elements
hollow shell
Terratomere is why
terse sundial
^
zenith hazel
but why
those are 2 completely different lines
one leads to exoblade and the other leads to AoTC
hollow shell
I get that it's for consistency
but we're alright in too deep in making Terra Blade the exception
by givin it its own line
ivory heart
ok
signal prairie
Sors, what do you think of the sprite I whipped up?
zenith hazel
but isn’t terra blade more of a nature sword and ark is more of a blade that kills evil?
pale bluff
Do y'all like my new suggestion that's kinda better than most of the other ones I made here?
frail mantle
still kinda looks like a reference for reference's sake tbh
vocal grotto
Yeah, Fab decides those
pale bluff
lemme remove the stats
hollow shell
If I am brutally honest Frans, the sprite would not fit in Calamity or Terraria
I don't think it'd be worth it to make sprites for them all considering they wouldn't be used even if the suggestion got accepted
It'd be better to give a general description of what they'd all kinda look like
vocal grotto
hollow shell
That suggestion is better, GlowDonk
signal prairie
I thought so, since I made in literally 5 minutes
vocal grotto
As much as I want to show sprites here, I'll resist lol
signal prairie
If I really wanted to, I could rip some sprite from attacks that I use for the game I'm creating but I'm not going to
ivory heart
neat
pale bluff
The suggestion is basically a Shaolin Monk Spade
civic pond
also for the "why" suggestion aren't there a LOT of weapons that aren't in terraria at all
vocal grotto
Yeah. I don't see many particularly talented sprites in the suggestions channel
pale bluff
There isn't many weapons that are shovels
hollow shell
There used to be a guy who made pretty good sprites for suggestions
civic pond
i hope my flail wasn't included in that
vocal grotto
Oh, really?
hollow shell
and a lot of other people tried following suit
zenith hazel
trends are fun
frosty kindle
hey, as long as it works.
civic pond
fun and annoying
hollow shell
to the point that we debating banning sprites from the suggestions channel because stars were clearly biased towards sprited suggestions
signal prairie
I started spriting my suggestions since is a good way for me to chill
frosty kindle
at least a good trend, and not those people that used :why: in the wrong context their suggestions
civic pond
still they catch peoples attention for stars
frail mantle
i make sprites for my suggestions because i like making them
signal prairie
^
vocal grotto
I'm indifferent to the sprites in there, usually.
smoky wagon
i make sprites for things which will never get added
frosty kindle
also the sprites, at least the good ones kinda helped form a good idea for what they wanted added tbh
smoky wagon
like a plaguebringer summon
vocal grotto
I think the idea is a lot more important
civic pond
usually a sprite is meant to just give people an idea of what it would look like
frail mantle
yea
vocal grotto
Then it's probably a better idea to make a sketch
signal prairie
I'm debating spending a few days working on a sprite for a weapon I'm thinking about, but not to sure
vocal grotto
A lot more creativity can be derived from something unfinished
zealous ridge
I usually include drawings with my suggestions, I want spriters to have a bit more variety
vocal grotto
Fishron armor? Ehhhh
vocal grotto
Armor is a pain in the ass to sheet
hollow shell
Fishron Fins
ivory heart
Suggestion deleted
civic pond
also
zealous ridge
fishron t u s k
hollow shell
it wasn't a suggestion yet lol
civic pond
I agree that fishron is lacking in calamity drops
hollow shell
didn't need to delete
civic pond
i was thinking either rogue weapons or that yoyo suggestion i saw
hollow shell
If Fishron is given any further Calamity things, I think post-Duke Amidias shop items is a good way of doin it
smoky wagon
When it comes to suggs quality>quantity
hollow shell
Because it gives more content for both of em
zealous ridge
Ooh I like that idea sors
smoky wagon
most of my suggs are ideas i’ve had for around a week
civic pond
thats perfect
hollow shell
considering Amidias becomes very irrelevant very quickly
zealous ridge
hmm would they be like upgrades to his preexisting weapons, or like weapons he uses while going into battle with the duke?
civic pond
i expect there to be some different dialogue though
vocal grotto
He tamed the duke, tho, iirc
civic pond
ik
vocal grotto
Yeah, I was responding to Chozo
pale bluff
I'd love to see a Duke Fishron pet or Minion (not the Sharknado Minion tho)
smoky wagon
theres a fishron mount already
civic pond
cute fishron
smoky wagon
all he sells is truffle worm currently
vocal grotto
Not so cute Fishron
ivory heart
Fishron Fins
Dropped from Duke Fishron.
Used to craft Ocean-themed weapons, to craft Fishron drops, and to possibly be used in crafting the SDFMG.
Why: Duke Fishron doesn’t really have that much weight in Calamity Mod anymore, due to many other bosses, most notably the Leviathan. Fishron Fins might be useful to give players more of a purpose to fight Duke Fishron. I would normally not fight Duke and instead fight the Leviathan.
civic pond
fishron has some of the best drops in the game ngl
for its point in progression at least
smoky wagon
Also literally all of fishron’s weapon drops have an upgrade
zealous ridge
I like idea of making the sdfmg, perhaps you could use fishron fins for upgrades to dukes weapons
smoky wagon
3 are needed for exo weapons
ivory heart
ok
frail mantle
bubble gun doesn't
smoky wagon
Effervescence
zealous ridge
bubble gun DOES
frail mantle
oh
ivory heart
Effervescence
civic pond
smoky wagon
even shrimpy truffle makes a gun
frail mantle
forget that i said anything
smoky wagon
vocal grotto
hollow shell
(I don't need credit for that)
civic pond
signal prairie
you came up with that idea
terse sundial
Rover it was a good idea
ivory heart
I think the Fishron Fins could replace the Shrimpy Truffle
civic pond
i kinda agree with rifter
ivory heart
After all Shrimpy Truffle is a mount
civic pond
i dont get why a mount is a crafting ingredient into a gun
smoky wagon
idt there should be a new crafting material just for that
zealous ridge
it could also maybe be used in crafting his drops too?
smoky wagon
making the fishron drops might be nice
vocal grotto
Wait, why does Fishron drop a truffle anyway?
smoky wagon
or fishron wings
vocal grotto
civic pond
he ate one
hollow shell
pigs eat truffles
smoky wagon
the truffle summons the cute fishron
civic pond
probably
zealous ridge
Yes craftable fishron wings
vocal grotto
Yeah, I know, I'm just pointing out that he probably threw it up or something
hollow shell
bitter drift
maybe we can make the truffle into a war mount
smoky wagon
The idea of a fishron crafting ingredient is good
But the reasoning makes no sense
Just say “convenience for annoying to farm drops”
pale bluff
Norfleet is finally in Calamity
ivory heart
I also think thanks to Leviathan, DF doesn’t get the recognition it used to in Vanilla Terraria
civic pond
vocal grotto
I don't follow
smoky wagon
Duke fishron still gets recogniton?
We literally just went on for awhile about why it does
leviathan is much easier to skip
zealous ridge
He’s fought in a separate tier to Levi (technically) so it doesn’t interfere
zealous ridge
I think the reasoning should just be “make getting dukes drops easier” and on the side have it be used in sdfmg
zealous ridge
I think it’s worth posting, see how it does
smoky wagon
if the reasoning is fixed
zealous ridge
yeah ^^
civic pond
oh my sugg still aint dead somehow
zealous ridge
cmoooon were close baybee
ivory heart
Posted.
pale bluff
Good idea tbh
zealous ridge
Fix the fact that you say scales halfway through
golden kayak
Yeah Scales are wrong.
ivory heart
Fixed.
zealous ridge
yay
ivory heart
I still think Duke Fishron has Scales
zealous ridge
debatable honestly but fins are safer
ivory heart
@autumn crystal no
zealous ridge
hey no meme suggestions sir
ivory heart
What is going on
civic pond
amazing
crystal osprey
Hell yeah to that suggestion
ivory heart
Thank you
zealous ridge
bruh_face
elder mist
@autumn crystal Don't meme suggest, thank you. Warned for that.
terse sundial
the face
ivory heart
For deleting that horrendous suggestion
autumn crystal
not banned?
worthy raptor
autumn crystal
(and thanks <3)
worthy raptor
that's okay
terse sundial
it was bad
civic pond
duke fishron
ivory heart
Your suggestion is a huge meme @autumn crystal
Not the point of the mod
smoky wagon
i feel left out
civic pond
but orange
zealous ridge
yharon ms paint drawing
smoky wagon
ivory heart
Duke Fishron with ms paint Yharon outline
vocal grotto
Meme suggestion? What'd I miss?
autumn crystal
want to see it?
zealous ridge
don’t send it here though be weary
autumn crystal
I know there's something called dms
zealous ridge
terse sundial
signal prairie
That emote is terrifing
vocal grotto
That emote is a snapshot of Jesus
unique vector
as it should be 
terse sundial
the face
vocal grotto
signal prairie
Time to put blood, sweat, and tears into a sprite for a Rare melee weapon Variant thats going to be overlooked
civic pond
good fun
vocal grotto
Time to make 90 alts to star everything and watch the devs go crazy
ivory heart
no
unique vector
lol
ivory heart
You technically need only 88
vocal grotto
Nah, that isn't very smart
ivory heart
You can star yourself and suggestion bot gives an automatic star
ashen warren
what if we all made 20 alts
vocal grotto
Star yourself? 
ashen warren
or what if we all made 0 alts and voted ourselves
frail mantle
Astral Counterweight
Post-Astrum Aureus Yo-Yo Accessory
When equipped, having a Yo-Yo out and pressing Right Click creates a Yo-Yo Duplicate that floats in midair a set distance away from the main Yo-Yo projectile. Pressing Right-Click again while the Yo-Yo is out will create another Yo-Yo duplicate that floats the same distance away from the Yo-Yo as the first duplicate, although on the opposite side of the main Yo-Yo. The more you press Right-Click while the Yo-Yo is out, the more duplicates appear. These duplicates will float in the shape of a regular polygon around the main Yo-Yo. A maximum of 5 duplicates can exist at once. Defeating the Moon Lord increases the amount of duplicates that can exist and increases the distance between the duplicates and the main Yo-Yo.
Duplicates follow the same behavior as the main Yo-Yo and ignore i-frames, however whenever you create a duplicate the damage of the main Yo-Yo is slightly reduced, and whenever you create a new duplicate, the damage of all the existing duplicates will drastically reduce. This means that with a Post-ML Astral Counterweight with all duplicates out, the main Yo-Yo might only deal 80% of actual Yo-Yo damage, while each duplicate might only deal 10% of the main Yo-Yo damage.
Dropped by Astrum Aureus in Expert Mode.
Reason for this suggestion: Using Yo-Yos only Post-Plantera is pretty hard, since most options for this tier mostly get pretty low DPS or just have problems hitting the bosses. Besides, Post-Plantera is the part of the game where the bosses begin to become even more challenging than before Siren and Levi. Also, beating Astrum Aureus with Yo-Yos grants exactly zero rewards except the Starlight Fuel Cell and Jelly Bean Post-ML in Revengeance Mode. Also, it feels weird to me that Astrum Aureus has no Expert Exclusive drops.
civic pond
something about astrum aureus for once
brittle merlin
I like it
smoky wagon
Seems interesting
hollow shell
I like it
ivory heart
Old suggestion
hollow shell
aw recolor booo
young fog
ivory heart
what’s ngl
smoky wagon
Recolors are banned
frail mantle
not gonna lie
ivory heart
ok
smoky wagon
carnage isnt crimson-exclusive
i feel like a RiV of a corruption only weapon would be better
frail mantle
yea
smoky wagon
ichor spear is crimson?
hollow shell
You can post Shadowedge I guess but don't post the recolor alongside it
and yeah why would it not be crimson
ichor is in the name
smoky wagon
i know it is
plucky matrix
Why does everyone suddenly want to give yoyos so much love, I feel like people want it to become their own class at this point
frail mantle
i'm doing a Yo-Yo Death PT and i'm realizing how shit it is in some parts in progression
civic pond
no arma?