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#suggestions-discussion
terse sundial
civic pond
radiant meadow
I literally just said it
terse sundial
queen sail
5 minutes ago
hollow saffron
.
terse sundial
we have plans
queen sail
hollow saffron
hMMMMMmm
radiant meadow
look like 5 posts above that
radiant meadow
zenith hazel
when you were there yet you weren’t there
hollow saffron
tbh skeletron needs more weapons
hollow saffron
needs more weapons as drops*
frail mantle
Terrarion Armor
Post-Plantera Rogue Armor
Set Bonus: When you use a Rogue Weapon, there's a chance to fire a Seed projectile that explodes into damaging Thorns that linger in the air, despawning after four seconds. The chance to fire this projectile scales the higher the use time of the Rogue weapon, meaning that slow weapons are more likely to fire a Seed.
By pressing Armor Set Bonus, you activate a special ability named Wrath of the Jungle. This ability greatly increases speed, Defense and Damage Reduction and sets the Critical Strike Chance for your next Rogue attack to 100%. This effect lasts for three seconds, disappears upon taking damage or using a weapon and has a thirty second cooldown. While Wrath of the Jungle is active, you do not gain Rogue Stealth.
Reason for this suggestion: Post-Plantera is the part of the game where most classes gain class-exclusive armor sets, although Rogue doesn't, leading to Rogues having to use Reaver Armor every time, which feels a bit boring in my opinion. Also would help making Rogue feel like more of a developed class.
radiant meadow
skeletron is a vanilla boss, so it's not really a high priority thing to give more drops, if planned at all
terse sundial
skele itself doesn't need drops
hollow saffron
is that a text wall i see 
terse sundial
as Brav mentioned, it unlocks a shit ton of equipment for the player
radiant meadow
they're just posting their suggestion for feedback, no need to get upset about it
zenith hazel
so the set kinda resembles the mechanics of The Bee I guess
zenith hazel
I kinda like it ngl
terse sundial
well, Clothier's Wrath is hot
zenith hazel
it makes sense for rogue to get the same treatment as the other classes, besides melee
civic pond
yeah its a good drop if your lucky
smoky wagon
^
golden kayak
(And they both are quite unique)
earnest raptor
@golden kayak more variety is almost always good.
civic pond
and then there's too much variety
marble mirage
the variety never stops
gusty geode
who tf made a weapon called the Dragon's Fury and didn't make it a TF2 reference
smoky wagon
nobody caare
sand umbra
There is no such thing as too much variety. +3+
radiant meadow
early hm yoyos 
smoky wagon
too many astral-themed weapons could be redundant
civic pond
literally every clusterfuck tier of yoyos
smoky wagon
I think all that should be added is a proper drop pool for the astral bosses
civic pond
swords
smoky wagon
good
terse sundial
such as?
smoky wagon
maybe true caustic edge also
terse sundial
floodtide is fine
smoky wagon
“Fine”
civic pond
i mean
sand umbra
...yeah you've got me there. -3-
civic pond
im just saying
smoky wagon
Literal crafting ingredient
terse sundial
Flarefrost is weak I agree
civic pond
isn't that the shark sword
smoky wagon
yes
civic pond
crafting ingredient.
terse sundial
Storm Saber is alright at times, but is usually underpowered
sand umbra
Early Hardmode yo-yo variety wouldn't be such a problem IF HALF OF THEM WEREN'T COMPLETELY WORTHLESS INVESTMENTS--
civic pond
early hardmode vanilla yoyo's are literally all the same to me
smoky wagon
honestly just increase the dmg of them
civic pond
they just look different
terse sundial
I could definitely look into a flarefrost buff
terse sundial
see if I can get it to Absolute Zero levels of power, maybe slightly weaker
civic pond
Also i found out abyssal flames deals the same damage as daybreak?? 
smoky wagon
flarefrost uses hallowed bars though
it should be compared to the other hallowed bar swords
civic pond
catastrophe claymore
zenith hazel
excalibur 
civic pond
terse sundial
ark will usually be more powerful, but I'll do some test later on
terse sundial
mhm
civic pond
it looks like it is
frail mantle
Ofuk one moment
civic pond
Btw is there something wrong with having daybreak buffed/ having more weapons inflict it?
zenith hazel
maybe chlorophyte + living shards
zealous ridge
I like the idea of new class specific armor sets
zenith hazel
unless that’s too much grinding
zealous ridge
what daybroken bumble?
zealous ridge
civic pond
because as far as i know abyssal flames and daybroken are the same
civic pond
rip
smoky wagon
yharon drops use it i know
zealous ridge
maybe have daybroken be able to stack on enemies? like how daybreak works
smoky wagon
atleast some do
civic pond
yeah
civic pond
ok what does abyssal flames do then
zealous ridge
Applying the debuff multiple times increases its damage
civic pond
ngl for the tier you can inflict it at it sucks
smoky wagon
abyssal flames is just like brimstone flames
But on enemies it also lowers some defense
civic pond
eh
smoky wagon
civic pond
"massive" damage
smoky wagon
if you want to buff daybroken then consider the weapons that use it currently
civic pond
thats why i also said have more weapons inflict it instead as an alternative
sand umbra
I like the idea of new class specific armor sets
Yeah, more unique and class-specific armor sets instead of these one-size-fits-all sets--
civic pond
helmets
smoky wagon
they have unique set bonuses atleast
civic pond
that too
zealous ridge
yes I’ve had an idea for like upgrades to the post plantera/golem class armors crafted with the mats from the sentinels
sand umbra
I mean that's not really the point--
The point is that it gets boring to craft the same like 8 or 9 armor sets over and over for each playthrough you do.
zealous ridge
yeah I agree
frail mantle
Yea
smoky wagon
who cares about armor though
civic pond
uh
zealous ridge
m e
smoky wagon
weapons are cooler
zealous ridge
terse sundial
crystal osprey
Weneed an early hard mode rogue set more than a post plant one
Slime boi armor just won't do
plucky matrix
Daedalus is fine
frail mantle
I think he means pre-Cryo
ashen warren
Statigel is fine
frail mantle
Yea
frail mantle
I’ve already suggested a pre-Cryo Hardmode Rogue armor set a few weeks ago too
plucky matrix
That would only really be used for one boss unless it has a very good set bonus that brings it on Daedalus level so you can decide between them depending on what you prefer
placid girder
Mollusk gang tbh
terse sundial
crystal osprey
Honestly why not just add hardmode ore helmets for rogue and summon
hollow saffron
@tired haven Pearlbearer set?
radiant meadow
he made a suggestion to add an armor
tired haven
Yes, pre-"hm boss" rogue armor set
hollow saffron
ohok
tired haven
it's already sent but I smell it never being used
civic pond
radiant meadow
@humble pike what about daedalus and reaver armor?
humble pike
@radiant meadow Sorry, I forgot about those armor sets, I apoligize for my mistake.
radiant meadow
@signal prairie about the cosmic rapier suggestion, "More weapon options for SCal" doesn't really cut it. There's already 6 available options which is more than any other class has to offer.
signal prairie
What I mean by "More options" is more viable option. Currently, only 1 or 2 weapons provide solid, consistent, and high DPS at the same time.
radiant meadow
dragon pow and ataraxia are getting buffed next update
there's no point in adding more options to create viability if the issue is that the existing options are weak
it makes more sense to buff what isn't viable (assuming it should be)
signal prairie
I was trying to put together sprites and weapons for every class that are good against Scal and keep a string going with different weapon suggestions that are provided a placeholder/official sprite. Not every day do you see a suggestion with a sprite. And The pow and Ataraxia have their different strong suits, like the pow is unmatched for crowd control and Ataraxia can wipe opponents that get too close due to it's large size. imo, each weapon has a strong point and a weak point, those weapons weak points are single targets and Scal is a single target.
queen sail
Doesn’t ataraxia just suck in general
signal prairie
Ataraxia is beastly close range
tired haven
But so is exoblade, while not sucking at range
signal prairie
Wiped 65% on a 10 times health DoG with a single Death adrenaline
Ataraxia's damage comes from close range, Dragon pow's crowd control is unmatched
And Exoblade is Brimstone Heart Destroyer Supreme
radiant meadow
ataraxia and exoblade fill very similar niches tbh
signal prairie
Haven't tested the Ataraxia's Damage against the Brimstone Hearts yet
echo horizon
you can delete suggestions btw
idle yarrow
New item! Silva’s essence.
Only drops post-wof and by any enemy in the abyss,
Uses, used as an ingredient for biome solutions, Example: Silva’s essence + 5 jungle seeds = 50 Dark green solution.
This is merely a concept and suggestions are welcome.
radiant meadow
perhaps your example should be of a vanilla solution
hollow saffron
Dark green solution is already a thing in Lufiafk
idle yarrow
So you can create solutions regardless if you can afford solution
radiant meadow
Calamity makes solutions cheaper
smoky wagon
idt solution not being affordable is ever an issue
vocal grotto
Money should never be a problem in Terraria
smoky wagon
You dont need that much
hollow saffron
And guwa, in Lufiafk dark green solution converts stuff to jungle solution
radiant meadow
and rev and defiled increase money drops
hollow saffron
^
idle yarrow
I thought it’d be a neat idea
Instead of constantly having to move the steampunker around
vocal grotto
Ehh, I think it's cool, but it's much easier to move steampunker.
Just change a bit of code, whereas your idea would require sprites and more code
radiant meadow
I mean, moving the steampunker is easy as buying a house
civic pond
crystal osprey
It's free real estate
idle yarrow
I want a reason to go to the abyss other then cool shit
Something that drops there that can help you long term
idle yarrow
Sorry I haven’t been far
crystal osprey
Ikr I wouldn't be able to suggest this but apost dog Silva boss at the very bottom of the abyss would be cool as fuck
idle yarrow
I thought depth cells were only used in making of the abyss suit
Also what if Silva armor required Silva’s essence
smoky wagon
!wiki depth cells
echo horizon
yea that will do
red stormBOT
echo horizon
whats tenebris
smoky wagon
a hardened plant block in the abyss
smoky wagon
also as you can see by the page i linked, abyss materials make a ton of stuff throughout the game
they aren’t underused
fickle spruce
@hollow idol
idle yarrow
Ohh I thought there wasn’t anything Silva related in the abyss
fickle spruce
silva is in the abyss
idle yarrow
We never see that in game
idle yarrow
It was dark as fuck when I was down there
All I could see was chests and glowy fishes
smoky wagon
maybe get more knowledge of the area which you are suggesting more content for
neon birch
bruh
lavish cloak
Planty Mush isn’t included in Silva’s recipe. It’s only use is life fruits unless you mean using tenebris to have it spread to planty mush
gusty geode
Rogue helmets for vanilla ores would be nice imo
If only so and I'm 110% confident I'm the only one who has this nitpick the mod fits slightly more into vanilla
It tends to do it's own thing a lot
Which isn't necessarily a big deal
But I feel like there should be a little more stuff that actually looks like Terraria
All there is now iirc is the Plague enemies and the Shockstorm Shuttle
Again
I doubt anyone else sees this as a problem, and I don't expect it to ever be addressed
Just speaking my mind, is all
frail mantle
Yharim is gonna be a boss Eventually™
crystal osprey
Okay that suggestion is legendary
crystal osprey
You could make a religion out of this
frail mantle
no don't
crystal osprey
I can and will
frail mantle
full bramble
is that a troll
void kelp
hey @hexed ore 
smoky wagon
draedon and yharim are planned bosses
crystal osprey
Suggestion: make him check the fuckinh pins
frail mantle
i don't get why people suggest things like "Add this thing that we already know will be added in the future"
crystal osprey
200 stars
hexed ore
void kelp
you know, there’s a bunch of pins you could read
crystal osprey
void kelp
they have suggestion guidelines
crystal osprey
It's cool just remember next time
No harm no foul just a simple mistake
@hexed ore
queen sail
Oh my god
novel pebble
Amazing
queen sail
So much bruh momentum that it’s going to propel me to mars
golden kayak
What was in these suggestions? I missed them.
golden kayak
So fishing post-ml got 90, mourningstar "move" is at 75, i got 45 with flamethrower (seems like I will not get there).
radiant meadow
star counting isn't what I meant
golden kayak
I dislike the idea of "variety" for SCal, and dislike new post-Aureus rouge weapon.
neon birch
what's RIV
golden kayak
And Rouge helmets for ore/hallowed in hm does not seem all that much nessesary, but they may be a thing to balance slow paced player's experience.
frail mantle
Rare Item Variant
golden kayak
So, what would you say about this?
proven tide
@ionic flicker
golden kayak
What a suggestion 
radiant meadow
exo-type weapons are not really allowed
proven tide
is that a what's the purpose of that one?boss suggestion of sorts
radiant meadow
I believe this should be extended to auric tier upgrades
proven tide
good
radiant meadow
and that is one very outdated sprite
proven tide
this is... happening 
signal prairie
I try it steer clear of Auric-tier weapons tbh
hollow shell
@ionic flicker Overcomplicated weapons such as exo-weapons shouldn't be suggested
proven tide
@ionic flicker so, apart from the not having used this channel to get feedback before jumping straight into the deep end with a balloon stretched around your face for a diving helmet, are you uhhh
not going to address anything that comes about as a response
hollow shell
(you had to ping him twice eh)
hollow shell
The first one was like 5 minutes ago just give it a sec
golden kayak
I reeeally do not think they will do this 👀
radiant meadow
"I try to steer clear of Auric-tier weapons tbh"
You suggested an auric tier mage and melee weapon earlier 
proven tide
ooba googa
signal prairie
Dragon's Fury doesn't take Auric ore so technically, it's not an Auric tier weapon
hollow shell
Guess when Auric Ore generates
proven tide
it's auric-tier, not auric-series
radiant meadow
auric tier means post p2
so, it is an auric tier weapon
that's like saying ataraxia isn't auric tier
post p2 and pre scal*
signal prairie
If you really want to get technical about it, you could say that things that dont require Auric Ore isnt Auric Tier but I'm tired af and not thinking straight so
proven tide
i think there's some room for improvement regarding this — a nod to the old exo and its legendary status would be neat — but if he's going to continue posting in the channel (updating the suggestion with the image) while being pinged and addressed in the discussions chat and doing nothing to address the gaping flaws (including ignoring three pins and two points of the suggestion don'ts), should it just be de-starred?
golden kayak
@humble pike Maybe you will delete suggestion?
And so will I i think 
hollow shell
Why would they delete it?
proven tide
"Edit : I forgot about Deadulas and Reaver armor sets, I apoligize for my mistake, Please ignore this suggestion."
golden kayak
hollow shell
It's a bluecheck so
s'fine if they keep it
somebody who did know about that and decided to suggest it anyway got to the star req in the past
radiant meadow
let's not do that please
ionic flicker
Wut
golden kayak
Was anti-ManaSickness potion suggested before? Now that im thinking about it i may look like a fool with this one 
radiant meadow
I don't think so
ionic flicker
I just suggested something
golden kayak
@ionic flicker
ionic flicker
Because lore wise Exoblade is Draedon's weapon, so it would be nice to have a variant with the old sprite because it matches his design
signal prairie
Smh my head
hollow shell
The problem is the complicated function you gave to it
radiant meadow
his design is subject to change
ionic flicker
And also, it was NOT a redesign, it was the old sprite
golden kayak
And future boss content is in don't"s.
radiant meadow
there's a good chance that the current auric tier weapons will all be post draedon
golden kayak
Seems like we need a suggestion about renaming Suggestions to Suggestions_read_pins
radiant meadow
or at least, most of them
hollow shell
That's been done
radiant meadow
so, the current Exoblade would likely be post-Draedon
hollow saffron
if were gonna be filling up empty bottles using rainwater, at least allow the water to actually spawn and lead to flooding
radiant meadow
it's not that hard to code pretty sure
cobalt lotus
I was wondering about that
There is a change made to the world when it starts raining right
golden kayak
Why not to make you get bottles with acid during acid rain?
proven tide
pins:
use this channel beforehand
give a reason
for the love of god use this channel beforehand
don'ts:
no complicated auric/exo tier weaponry
no content suggestions regarding bosses yet to be implemented
this drae-based exo-post with no forewarning:
radiant meadow
I think you can just have a recipe do a rain check
cobalt lotus
Was gonna add that to the suggestion @golden kayak
golden kayak
And bottles with acid are for potions. LETS DRINK SOME ACID
radiant meadow
bottles of acid could be used as a material for some stuff probably
ionic flicker
A quick suggestion, shouldn't Heavenly Gale's tornadoes have a separate Invul Timer?
Because it causes most of the arrows to miss
golden kayak
@radiant meadow NPCs and crafting stations do that, so that should not be a problem questionmark?
ionic flicker
other than the teal ones
dense girder
I'm not really sold on the idea of crafting water bottles in rain
But placing bottles in the rain and then having them turn to water bottles would be cool
radiant meadow
yes, gale tornados have a separate invulnerability timer
radiant meadow
I can check the source real quick, but they should have separate counter
hollow shell
The tornados do indeed have a separate invul timer
ionic flicker
I will check it now, i didn't use my ranged character for about two months so maybe the dev team fixed it?
hollow shell
However, none of the other arrows do
So it's possible that the other arrows are taking up the invul frames that cause the orange ones to miss
radiant meadow
teal arrows do
hollow shell
oh ffs you're basing this on something you remember from two months ago?
proven tide
haha yes
radiant meadow
ionic flicker
I'm checking it now, wait a sec
proven tide
these suggestions are big iq
hollow shell
And you're right, teal do also ignore i-frames
proven tide
it'd be better if you did a bit of prep and contextual scouting around before throwing ideas
ionic flicker
Wait till TMod is initiated
proven tide
like, you know, the pins, the mandatory don'ts, and the actual game itself
hollow shell
@hollow saffron Is Bloodflare not Tarragon's alt?
cobalt lotus
it is
proven tide
@hollow saffron and omega blue completes the trio
it doesn't all have to be one-to-one counterpart mapping
hollow shell
ah actually I guess Tarragon is pre-polter and the other two aren't
proven tide
they're still supposed to balance each other out mechanically even if the bloodflare set has higher rogue stealth max
cobalt lotus
polterghast can be fought anytime post moonlord though
radiant meadow
green, blue, and orange exo arrows don't pierce
hollow shell
You could specify a bit that you mean Pre-Polter
radiant meadow
so they shouldn't cause i frame issues either I think
cobalt lotus
and it is post provi because bloodstone is needed
hollow shell
Progression-wise Polter is after Provi though
gusty geode
There's an alternative to Auric Tesla
hollow shell
oh yeah what
proven tide
nobody:
linear design ouroborosing itself:
radiant meadow
I think he means Demonshade
as an alternative for the Boss Rush
although auric is kinda the only option for SCal
hollow saffron
yes
radiant meadow
Silva for like speedrunning memes
gusty geode
I still think there should be a second set of post-Yharon armor
Just
Auric Armor
Nowhere near as powerful, but much easier to obtain; maybe made with just Auric Ore and Soul Fragments
hollow saffron
^
proven tide
or just keep abusing silva's light speed
YO what if you used silva light speed + burden brog
hollow saffron
maybe use omega blue armor and alternatives to the other base armor sets for auric
maybe like "restored statigel armor" or smth like that
gusty geode
Perhaps
golden kayak
Which omegaboss is slime? Idk the name.
cobalt lotus
When is goozma supposed to be implemented?
ionic flicker
Here, ALL of the arrows missed
radiant meadow
far in the future
golden kayak
I think there should not be any lategame gel-related armor sets if not (it's?) His ones.
ionic flicker
The orange ones don't pierce
cobalt lotus
yharim post scal?
golden kayak
Inventory is disrespect 100 tho.
smoky wagon
theres a pinned message in #calamity-mod-talk for the future boss progression mackcub
cobalt lotus
thanks
ionic flicker
Here, a blue arrow missed
@golden kayak I use extended inventory, so a mess isn't really a problem
smoky wagon
i wasnt talking to you?
i think a “true statigel armor” would make sense given the prominence of statis in the lore
ionic flicker
Actually, it's a good idea as a counterpart of Tarragon Armor
smoky wagon
maybe twisting nether could be used to craft it
golden kayak
Why would you use gel for armor when you can use it for flamethrowers
smoky wagon
since statis’s clan was associated with signus
proven tide
if it doesn't happen with just calamity enabled it's not a calamity bug so howsabout you uninstall the rest and try again
smoky wagon
also twisting nether is underutilized compared to the other sentinel materials
ionic flicker
Maybe made from Phantoplasm and some new ingot
zealous ridge
it would be p nice if you could like upgrade signuts drops to a statis esque standard
hollow saffron
"ingot"
smoky wagon
there shouldnt be any new materials for it
hollow saffron
^
zealous ridge
yeah we have enough mats to work with here
smoky wagon
Twisting nether+cores of calamity+phantoplasm
combined with regular statigel armor
i might make this into an actual suggestion later
zealous ridge
coc aren’t exactly nessecary but maybe like more purified gel or smth
hollow saffron
maybe purified gel
smoky wagon
purified gel is already used for the base armor
hollow saffron
also i usually trash statigel armor after i get daedalus armor 😳
smoky wagon
adding more is redundant
zealous ridge
yeah that’s fair
smoky wagon
cores of calamity are easy to slap on a recipe to flesh it out but idk what else to use
Bars of life?
actually that sounds better
zealous ridge
just an idea but maybe murky sludge or whatever it’s called
hollow saffron
uH
golden kayak
The only possible problem with getting it later is Hellstone bars lol.
hollow saffron
thats not p u r i f i e d
zealous ridge
Bars of life would sound cool
hollow saffron
Tbh it should be something that fits in to the lore
smoky wagon
i dont think it needs more slime based components
zealous ridge
yeah okay
hollow saffron
just purified gel should be good for it
zealous ridge
also would we want to make it post provi or post signut?
smoky wagon
the recipe already has the twisting nether for the lore aspect, so the other materials should just be to make it have value
post signus
hollow saffron
post signut
zealous ridge
Okay
smoky wagon
currently twisting nether makes one weapon after beating signus
hollow saffron
also the original statigel armor was created using the essence of the slime god
so yeah purified gel
zealous ridge
So technically you could get it before provi if you fought signus first
hollow saffron
technically
but it should be post provi and post signut imo
bc brealor used tarragon armor
smoky wagon
signus is connected to statis’s clan though
hollow saffron
braelor*
smoky wagon
no
zealous ridge
having braelor and statis have their armors at the same tier would be lore wise fitting
hollow saffron
ueilbloom bars?
cobalt lotus
maybe combine the ninja belt with the leggings or chestplate and have it include some of those effects?
zealous ridge
somewhat
hollow saffron
bc they got power from silva
smoky wagon
Yes
hollow saffron
twisting nether + uielbloom bars + original set i guess
smoky wagon
ueilibloom already has an armor
hollow saffron
Guwa
Think about it
SIlva's main source of fauna was the jungle
Uielbloom spawns in the jungle
smoky wagon
thats a bit of a stretch
smoky wagon
there is a silva armor though
zealous ridge
to be fair, bars of life aren’t used in any armors besides auric (which is a mega set anyways)
golden kayak
If you do not add anything post-Provi you will be able to get it just after Signus, won't you?
hollow saffron
It should be post provi and signut
smoky wagon
It will be post signus
hollow saffron
ok
smoky wagon
if you want to get it pre provi you could
smoky wagon
i will myself
hollow saffron
ok
hollow saffron
I wont
zealous ridge
I’ll leave it to you guwa
smoky wagon
im not at my pc currently
golden kayak
I think it should be post-provi too 🤔
smoky wagon
Sentinel drops do not need post provi materials
this will be the same
seadragon, mistlestorm, etc.
hollow saffron
@cobalt lotus yharon will peace out at 10% if you havent beaten provi and dog
golden kayak
It is not a Tarragon armor level then.
cobalt lotus
yeah but it does that regardless before phase 2 anyway
smoky wagon
it will be a sidegrade
zealous ridge
what about what it does for you? Like what would be the advantage over tarragon rogue set? Assuming they’re about the same tier
hollow saffron
uH
smoky wagon
i am deciding what the set bonus and rough stats will be atm
zealous ridge
Yeah
smoky wagon
probably mobility related
golden kayak
And for pre-Provi each class has unique set tho.
zealous ridge
Okay
hollow saffron
maybe some set bonus to dodge an attack
since ninja
and standing still makes you invisible
cobalt lotus
Should I make a suggestion to have counter scarf and asgardian stuff dashes to take priority over others
or is that a thing now
take priority over like statis belt or solar flare armor
golden kayak
Do not steal Statis's belt and rogue's stealth mechanics
smoky wagon
it probably will be a more glass cannon oriented set like omega blue
maybe the set bonus could give a free dash that isnt bad
zealous ridge
maybe you can summon a statis clone of yourself that diverts attention for a few seconds and compliments a glass cannon playstyle?
golden kayak
^^^ When you press hotkey
zealous ridge
statis literally wiped out half an army in one night
hollow saffron
25%
zealous ridge
oh yeah sorry that probably
cobalt lotus
Can yharon drop only 1 omega healing potion?
hollow saffron
uH
cobalt lotus
like is that possible
cobalt lotus
bruh
zealous ridge
says he drops 1-15 on the wiki
cobalt lotus
yeah was wondering if that was correct
smoky wagon
armor gives a free ninja dash that can be overridden by other dashes and also has maybe a smoke bomb effect on it
cobalt lotus
should that be raised?
smoky wagon
and one other offensive bonus
zealous ridge
maybe while dashing you get a damage bonus?
hollow saffron
offensive bonus: you become shadow'
reducing enemy aggro and increasing damage
this effect is increased at night
cobalt lotus
lul
zealous ridge
Tbf rogue is getting an expansion so the new stealth overhaul might change stuff around
golden kayak
"Do not add stats to your suggestion".
smoky wagon
i think it will be an all class set
i dont plan on specific stats
maybe each dmg type gets unique effects
zealous ridge
okay would you use all helmets in its crafting or just one of them?
radiant meadow
yharon should drop 5-15 healing pots
smoky wagon
Any headpiece
cobalt lotus
Wiki says 1-15 @radiant meadow
radiant meadow
then I'm changing the wiki
cobalt lotus
sick bro
zealous ridge
nice
smoky wagon
ok im bouta head out
cobalt lotus
didnt get opinion on this before:
Should I make a suggestion to have counter scarf and asgardian stuff dashes to take priority over others
or is that a thing now
take priority over like statis belt or solar flare armor
smoky wagon
when i am back the sugg will be out
zealous ridge
priority stuff is weird tbh, some people might want those dashes for some reason or another
hollow saffron
counter scarf already takes priority
zealous ridge
perhaps have it be determined by where you place it in your accessory slots
golden kayak
I still think this Statis armor should be both post-Provi and post-Signus.
hollow saffron
same @golden kayak
cobalt lotus
signus without providence drops could be difficult due to dps and damage taken
golden kayak
You first wanted to make a Tarragon set alternative tho.
And pre-Provi does not need any alternative sets.
1 for each class is 112% enough.
hollow saffron
This is Guwa's idea tho
golden kayak
Tarragon alternative kinda makes sense more than fragment/xeroc alternative.
And since i have no clue about the lore I will not complain about it being slime.
smoky wagon
the other items crafted from sentinel drops do not need providence drops
the armor will be the same
golden kayak
I do see your point, but I do not like it from gameplay side.
zealous ridge
Actually there are a fewof post-sentinel items that need another boss to be killed first
mistlestorm, dark spark needs provi and polterghast to be killed, the dungeon staff upgrades require polterghast to be killed
In any case, it is your suggestion, do what you want with it
ionic flicker
It seems like the Heavenly Gale bug was because another mod
But i found another that is calamity only
golden kayak
It is not a bug then 👀 ^^
ionic flicker
Elysian meteors from drataliornus sometimes just phases through enemies without causing damage
smoky wagon
with that many projectiles do you really expect every single one to hit
zealous ridge
might be iframe shenannigNs
smoky wagon
Does it make a difference
ionic flicker
just sometimes
smoky wagon
ionic flicker
here too
golden kayak
I-frames are a thing, do not think this is a bug.
ionic flicker
It supossedly ignores I frames
And also Elysian meteors are non piercing
you can see the trail of these projectiles, so no, they didn't miss
golden kayak
If I-frames are actually ticks then MAYBE fireballs are just too fast.
hollow saffron
lower velocity
golden kayak
Can you?
golden kayak
I mean, can you change velocity of projectiles?
terse sundial
you can
golden kayak
@terse sundial Do you know about i-frames and i-ticks?
terse sundial
I know a bit
we should prob take this out to somewhere else if it isn't suggestion related
golden kayak
I think if it was frames then at constant 60 fps you would have died from anything and even from slimes with DB on, but you do not (you are knocked back but i am sure it is not like 1-frame thing).
Yeah.
terse sundial
probably best for Calamity talk or gen talk, pick your poison ig
ivory heart
Make it so that if the player was in the Underworld in the Boss Rush before the Wall of Flesh spawned, do not teleport the player.
smoky wagon
why would you do boss rush in the underworld
ivory heart
I put my Boss Rush arena there apparently
smoky wagon
ivory heart
Another suggestion: make it so that Storm Weaver doesn’t decide to just wander off and despawn.
hollow saffron
thats already gonna be implemented
golden kayak
It is fixed.
ivory heart
ok
golden kayak
Maybe not in changelogs tho.
ivory heart
Because Storm Weaver moves so fast at times it enters the despawn radius
hollow saffron
I am speed
ivory heart
Reduce Storm Weaver’s speed in phase two
terse sundial
that's not why it despawns
terse sundial
despawning will be fixed soon
golden kayak
@terse sundial Would you kindly pm me after getting info on db or writing somewhere in chats and tagging me so I can read it?
hollow saffron
@smoky wagon have you posted it yet
smoky wagon
you would know
hollow shell
I don't think that's what he meant
smoky wagon
True Statigel Armor (post-Signus)
True Statigel Hood:
1 Twisting Nether
7 Bars of Life
9 Phantoplasm
1 Any Statigel Headpiece
True Statigel Armor:
2 Twisting Nether
10 Bars of Life
14 Phantoplasm
1 Statigel Armor
True Statigel Greaves:
1 Twisting Nether
8 Bars of Life
11 Phantoplasm
1 Statigel Greaves
All armor pieces are crafted at the Ancient Manipulator
Stats: An all-class armor set (includes +2 minion slots) with lower defense than Tarragon but slightly higher offensive boosts and boosts to jump height and speed
Set Bonuses:
-A ninja dash which lets the player dodge through attacks like the Counter Scarf. Stat boots and a 15-second cooldown are given upon a successful dodge. Equipping any other dash item overrides this dash.
-Emit a smoke bomb cloud upon being hit, which gives a short boost to movement speed, horizontal and vertical wing speed, and deals moderate damage to enemies inside the cloud.
-True melee strikes have a 33% chance to inflict Whispering Death for 3 seconds.
-Ranged critical strikes have a small chance to spawn a exploding cosmic mine which slowly drifts toward enemies and deals 300% dmg of the weapon that spawned it
-Magic attacks have a chance to fire a cosmic fireball which deals 50% dmg of the weapon that spawned it
-Rogue attacks spawn cosmic kunai blades as they travel which home onto enemies and deal 33% dmg of the weapon that spawned it
-A Cosmilamp summon which takes no minion slots will be granted if the player has 5 or more minion slots
Reason:
Considering Statis is a legendary warrior who alongside Braelor stood against the forces of Yharim, it feels strange for the closest thing to an armor set befitting him being relegated to pre-HM, especially considering the placement of Tarragon armor.
Twisting Nether is a underutilized crafting ingredient and it would make sense for it to unlock the true potential of the Statigel armor, considering Siguns's relation to the Statigel clan in the lore. Also, more armor set variety post-ML is good considering how linear the armor progression currently is, and this armor set is oriented to feel unique from Tarragon by sacrificing defense for increased offense and mobility.
long af
gusty geode
I like
smoky wagon
i had to make it two posts
im going to finish formatting then post it
i will need a mod to remove stars from the first part
smoky wagon
-50 defense on true melee hits?
its just true melee hits in general
i might increase the duration
maybe 10 seconds
golden kayak
Why would you need it to have it for longer if you inflict it anyway.
And you do not shoot.
hollow shell
If you could fix this that would be good
also the bot will automatically remove the star from the first post if you double-post quick enough
smoky wagon
yes i am working on that
golden kayak
And I still think that this should be also post-Provi. Or at least harder to get.
civic pond
i like this suggestion
proven tide
@smoky wagon a 'why' and its functionality would likely be appreciated
proven tide
yaha
hollow shell
You didn't fix the formatting
smoky wagon
ok for me it looks fine
hollow shell
smoky wagon
.
hollow shell
I thought this was a mobile-only thing
hollow shell
I know
smoky wagon
doesnt depend on window size
hollow shell
Damn Discord just sucks a fat one I guess
civic pond
so is this similar to omega blue armor then?
proven tide
Can you re-format the recipe like this, to save space?
True Statigel Hood:
1 Twisting Nether/7 Bars of Life/9 Phantoplasm/1 Any Statigel Headpiece @ Ancient Manipulator
True Statigel Armor:
2 Twisting Nether/10 Bars of Life/14 Phantoplasm/1 Statigel Armor @ Ancient Manipulator
True Statigel Greaves:
1 Twisting Nether/8 Bars of Life/11 Phantoplasm/1 Statigel Greaves @ Ancient Manipulator
yes
golden kayak
But... it is.. not.. Tarragon.. tier.. ehh. Nvm.
hollow shell
It's pre-Polter
proven tide
A ninja dash which lets the player dodge through attacks like the Counter Scarf.
rip nohitters then
golden kayak
It is pre-Provi.
hollow shell
Tarra's post-Prov, this is post-Signus
both of em are pre-Polter
proven tide
immediate armour ban
smoky wagon
@proven tide done
proven tide
gottem
hollow shell
ah that's better
proven tide
ah, now it fits on-screen
proven tide
so what if we changed the luxor's gift to split its projectiles with every projectile split the base weapon has
crystalline luxor's isn't ass and fires twice the projectiles instead of +1
might make it actually mean something with any weapon that isn't the mycoroot/cosmic kunai
hollow shell
"split"?
smoky wagon
luxors is good enough
hollow shell
That doesn't apply to a lot of weapons
proven tide
but it applies enough to make it remotely viable
hollow saffron
@smoky wagon very good!
smoky wagon
thanks
hollow saffron
luxors + cosmic kunai = yes
proven tide
haha yes 120k dps
zenith hazel
I guess it could be useful in saving up a slot but then again, that dodge can be a pain for nohitters
overall, I like the idea of another set pre-polter
zenith hazel
I'm not entirely sure about this but iirc, determination breaker doesn't negate the first frame of the dodge so it doesn't entirely work or something among those lines
I could most likely be wrong on that if any other nohitters/devs are willing to correct me
smoky wagon
ech
zenith hazel
you can cheat in an extra slot for determination breaker if you want since it doesn't affect nohits much as long as it has no modifier iirc
golden kayak
Uhhhhhhh
rapid pivot
Thoughts on this?
Suggestion
Buff the speed and homing range/accuracy of Undine's Retribution, and maybe buff the mana cost. In my experience, the spears act rather erratically, more often homing in on me than nearby enemies, unless I'm right next to said enemy.
smoky wagon
they home onto you when there are no enemies
the homing should be very strong when enemies are near the cursor
rapid pivot
Mmm... alright, lemme check again, then.
jovial spire
eh imo there are already enough post provi pre DoG armors @smoky wagon
already have 3 full sets
smoky wagon
so?
thats a large portion of the game still
5 bosses and boss refights also
post polter is sort of a different tier anyway
golden kayak
I STILL think that it should also be post-Provi, because for pre-provi we have enough armor sets.
sand umbra
Ah, yes, let's have more one-size-fits-all armor sets to get bored of after 2 playthroughs.
Because we sure don't have enough of those already.
gaunt gazelle
cough cough every armour except omega blue
radiant meadow
I think there are plans for armors that are class specific
idk when they are planned to be released or anything
gaunt gazelle
omega blue > demonshade
radiant meadow
omega blue is a one size fits all though
radiant meadow
right now, xeroc armor is the only one that isn't all class, or has multiple helms
sand umbra
And even then, at least to me, Xeroc armor feels less like a rogue armor and more like a classless armor? Or at least that's what it feels like it should be in my eyes. My opinions are weird though so take what I'm saying on this with a grain of salt.
radiant meadow
it used to be a classless armor
that's why it spawns different projectiles when you use non rogue weapons
but all the bonuses are for rogue
sand umbra
radiant meadow
bonus mana and minion slots have been since removed I believe
smoky wagon
adding one post-ml class specific armor when no others exist makes no sense thomas
you absolute bafoon
gaunt gazelle
make one for each class
sand umbra
Then you make more for the other classes.
smoky wagon
yes let me make 4-5 armor set suggestions for post-ml
not everyone has a google doc where all of their ideas come true
sand umbra
gaunt gazelle
pulls out clam crusher and swings it menacinginly
then im afraid i must enforce the law
earnest raptor
Profaned Goddess armor set
RIV of Tarragon armor
All pieces at once drops from Providence with 3% chance
Profaned Goddess Headpiece
35 defense
Temporary immunity to lava
Cursed inferno, fire and frostburn converts into increased life regeneration
50% decreased movement speed in water and honey, but 25% increased movement speed in lava
6% increased damage and critical strike chance
Profaned Goddess Shell
42 defense
8% increased damage and 3% increased critical strike chance
+2 life regen
+50 max life
Getting hit increases damage reduction by 15% for short time
Profaned Goddess Leggings
33 defense
35% increased movement speed, speed bonus decreases if health is lower
4% increased damage and critical strike chance
150% increased jump height
Set bonus:
You emit a massive amount of light
All weapons inflicts empowered holy flames
Pressing Armor Set Bonus contain you into shell, that negates completely any damage, but frozes you in place and disables minions
Increased enemy spawn rates
Burning enemies have increased chance to drop heart
Any ideas?
earnest raptor
Guardians is pretty easy
earnest raptor
?
gaunt gazelle
the suggestion that just got suggested
sand umbra
making anything drop from the Guardians
gaunt gazelle
10% increased cold weapon dmg
sand umbra
Now see I'm tempted to give the Guardians some miscellaneous drops, but like.
I'm 99% sure they're never getting any.
gaunt gazelle
they are like the cultist i think
supposed to be a gateway to another boss
while providing relatively little challenge
earnest raptor
Changed.
zealous ridge
All pieces at once?
earnest raptor
Hmmmmmmmmm
earnest raptor
All boss RIV can be obtained from treasure bag
gaunt gazelle
ah
smoky wagon
RiV armor sets seems really impractical
Unless every piece of the armor was guaranteed to drop together
smoky wagon
I mean even then i still think crafted armor sets are better progression wise
sand umbra
Otherwise it's Warframe all over again where you keep getting the fuCKING CHASSIS FOR YOUR NEXT FRAME OF INTEREST WHEN ALL YOU NEED'S THE NEUROPTICS--
smoky wagon
😳
sand umbra
Don't mind me.
Basically giving an example as to why having potential "RIV armor sets" drop all pieces at once is the best way to go about it.
If they're separate you just rack up like fifty helmets before getting the chestplate or shoes.
earnest raptor
Low drop chance, but all the pieces drop at once.
Already is, do you read my suggestion?
sand umbra
I'm mainly just making a point.
sand umbra
gdi
earnest raptor
Profaned Goddess armor set
RIV of Tarragon armor
All pieces at once drops from Providence with 3% chance
Profaned Goddess Headpiece
35 defense
Temporary immunity to lava
Cursed inferno, fire and frostburn converts into increased life regeneration
50% decreased movement speed in water and honey, but 25% increased movement speed in lava
6% increased damage and critical strike chance
Profaned Goddess Shell
42 defense
8% increased damage and 3% increased critical strike chance
+2 life regen
+50 max life
Getting hit increases damage reduction by 15% for short time
Profaned Goddess Leggings
33 defense
35% increased movement speed, speed bonus decreases if health is lower
4% increased damage and critical strike chance
150% increased jump height
Set bonus:
You emit a massive amount of light
All weapons inflicts empowered holy flames
Pressing Armor Set Bonus contain you into shell, that negates completely any damage, but frozes you in place and disables minions
Increased enemy spawn rates
Burning enemies have increased chance to drop heart
On death you will erupt into massive flame tornado
Reason:
- RIV armor would be interesting addition to concept.
- Armor that resembles Provi and her abilities.
- Alternative to Tarragon; this armor trades offensive stafs for defense.
unique vector
i will blow both bandwagons up with TNT
distant gyro
sand umbra
unique vector
💥
plucky prairie
its relatively pointless
proven tide
keeping
mystic sandal
I wonder how small materials can actually be
Because for the old Eye of Extinction recipe
You need to get 2500 of each moon essence
plucky prairie
oh wow
mystic sandal
How small are the Endothermic Energy/Nightmare Fuels?
plucky prairie
thats quite a bit
distant gyro
yea farming™
hollow shell
Small like, size-wise?
mystic sandal
Yeah
hollow shell
What's that have to do with how much is required for an item?
mystic sandal
It’s just a silly thing I thought up of
gaunt gazelle
add farming to make playthroughs longer without adding content
hollow shell
They're both about 36x36 pixels
mystic sandal
Because Eye of Extinction is like a 3rd of the size of the player
And 2500 of each forms of them
Those have to be microscopic in order to be crafted into that size
proven tide
haha yes imagine thinking that creation is additive
mystic sandal
I mean
gaunt gazelle
eye of extinction forms a minature blackhole condensing all that essence into a spot the third the size of a player
mystic sandal
We’re either actual giants in this world or everything is microscopic
gaunt gazelle
like steve we hold cosmic power and can remove the space between atoms by moving something into our inventory
proven tide
or alternately, you just put a piggy bank in a fucking piggy bank and admit that size and compression mean nothing while you idly fondle with your newfound infinitely-dense boar toy
mystic sandal
You say that but when we try and use a katana before you’re supposed to you’re unable to
earnest raptor
Things in terraria are a lot smaller that we think.
Terrarian can hold in their inventory more that 49k platinum ingots.
plucky prairie
49950 ingots (50949 if you include the trash slot) to be exact, and 3996 coins of an unknown size, along with armor, accessories, and equipment
gaunt gazelle
tungsten is the densest element in terraria i believe
all those ingots would probably cause a blackhole
mystic sandal
Wait a minute
gaunt gazelle
also you can hold a piggybank and a safe that each have slots
mystic sandal
What’s the largest thing you can make in Terraria
I believe Sword of the Multiverse, let’s use that
It’s HUGE
Takes up half the screen
gaunt gazelle
+tungsten enchant from fargos
mystic sandal
And you can fit like 50 in your inventory
distant gyro
Depends on what's considered largest
gaunt gazelle
+150% size
mystic sandal
With all those swords
gaunt gazelle
cannonball can stack i think
keen oxide
I highly doupt you can code a flag that checks the average size of nearby NPC houses, but if you could it would be great if NPC Calamitas, once implemented, had a quote regarding how this is just an above ground dungeon if all the NPC houses are just small cells
proven tide
yo did discord literally just change their formatting to reddit's?
"gey"
hm
gey
wow alright
rapid niche
||no u||
proven tide
it's in the name 😤
crystal osprey
Breh
distant gyro
yes.
proven tide
ironically the fps there seemed lowest when you were just sitting in your menu lmao
anyhow
maybe re-post it with a recording that includes the fps?
distant gyro
eh, idk how to add an fps counter
hold up... isn't there a steam option or sth
radiant meadow
press f10
golden kayak
Was my suggestion fixed/suggested before?
golden kayak
It was so stupid. Eye spawned 3 times in one night.
Had 3 destroyers in one night.
And I even missed the third one so when it spawned at roughly 4 am me and all my NPCs died.
placid moth
I have never had much random boss spawns at night tbh
Only 1/2 throughout my entire game.
golden kayak
(So I mean it would have despawned anyway even if I stay alive for these 30 seconds)
Idk, i play flamethrower & Death and struggle farming gel and watching me dying bc I have no ammo is really frustrating.
(Eye spawns)
frail mantle
it's a tribute to TotalHalibut
zealous ridge
Mmmm it’s a dedicated item
would be hard to get that removed
ionic flicker
I mean, It's nigh impossible to obtain, if you obtain it early it just ruins your playthrough because it far outclasses anything up to and including post ML bosses
zenith hazel
removing a tribute to a late man would be kind of weird and disrespectful in a sense
ionic flicker
And by the point you can obtain it it's just useless
terse sundial
its an overpowered easter egg
zenith hazel
there’s no specific “point” you can obtain it
zealous ridge
Tbf it’s your choice if you use it and it’s so astronomically rare anyways that it’s barely a problem
terse sundial
no one is forced to use it
zenith hazel
even with endgame equipment, halibut is still just as hard to get as with post-ml gear
ionic flicker
I mean, the only reasonable way to get it is post-polter but is useless against DoG
or Yharon
terse sundial
once again, no one is forced to obtain it
ionic flicker
So then, why not making it a post polter weapon only and raising it's drop chance and slightly buffing it to make it comparable to other weapon on it's tier?
frail mantle
that was suggested before
terse sundial
because it is an easter egg
smoky wagon
its a meme weapon by design
terse sundial
its not meant to be a serious weapon
ionic flicker
oh, sorry anyways
I didn't know it was a tribute
I though it was just a meme weapon
smoky wagon
earnest raptor
IWhy not remove Halibut?
Tribute to one of Fab's favorite streamers.
You can't remove piece of someone's soul from mod.
frail mantle
Overflo-Yo
Post-Duke Fishron Yo-Yo
When this Yo-Yo hits an enemy, there's a chance to spawn a mini Cthulhunado that lingers in the air and damage enemies for five seconds. If a Mini Cthulhunado appears while the user is riding the Cute Fishron mount, the Mini Cthulhunado will fire Sharkrons at enemies.
Either dropped by Duke Fishron or sold by Amidias after Duke Fishron has been defeated.
Reason for this suggestion: Trying to use Yo-Yos Post-Golem is quite hard, as there are only two post-Golem Yo-Yos in Calamity, both of which aren't very viable. Also, Duke Fishron is a pretty challenging boss, so having more rewards for beating him would be nice.
thoughts?
tired haven
I only want to see something different than nadoes for effect, but that's mostly eccentric point
Duke definitely needs calamity drops
tired haven
Actually I think if yoyo would leave a trail of bubbles that could be pretty cool
(homing or not, no real matter ig)
frail mantle
how about this:
when thrown, it leaves a homing bubble trail, and upon enemy hits it has a low chance to spawn a mini Cthulhunado
frail mantle
tbh i feel like Post-Golem Rogue is already pretty strong