suggestions-discussion

[placid moth]

Let me recall how familiar your idea is to another weapon

Ah yes, spiky balls from goblin invasion.

[bitter drift]

what so confusing about the PRM weapon being a consumable and HM weapon not being a consumable?

[zealous ridge]

and yes if it subtracted health it would be better

no I just read it weird and assumed they were both consumable my mistake

[bitter drift]

i guess if i suggest it i shall make it clearer

[hollow saffron]

i suggest you make a completely new weapon idea instead

[bitter drift]

that why i said IF

[civic pond]

god the formatting for that SDOMG thing is killing me

[hollow saffron]

ikr

[placid moth]

Ifkr

[civic pond]

jesus christ

there was already a suggestion to buff sdmg

[placid moth]

Can someone pin a formatting instruction page

[civic pond]

bold of you to assume they read the pins

also i dont think there's a "why" to that suggestion either

[ashen warren]

What is that formatting

[bitter drift]

slime god and the lunar event give me to much trouble some how at that stage
also this was the reason i started the suggestion on how it is(stronger then the other weapons at that stage stats wise) i always farm SG in hard mode for the cash

mine?

[ashen warren]

No

[civic pond]

for which

SDOMG?

[ashen warren]

The one that's half a page

[civic pond]

🤢

[hollow saffron]

@ashen warren I felt that putting the reason beforehand would work better

wait mine?

[ashen warren]

No, not yours

[hollow saffron]

ohok

nvm

[civic pond]

timer

is it the sdomg

[ashen warren]

Yep

That actually hurts

[civic pond]

ok im gonna be honest

we need a better filter for suggestions

[ashen warren]

Yours is alright, XultroniX

[hollow saffron]

ok

nobody:
sdomg: <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>

[civic pond]

if a suggestion gets like 10 ❕ it gets removed or something

[hollow saffron]

o

[civic pond]

it doesn't have to be that specifically

[radiant meadow]

no

[civic pond]

ech

[radiant meadow]

it's not a downvote thingy

[civic pond]

forgot about that

[ashen warren]

This place needs it's own staff to function properly tbh

[radiant meadow]

@signal prairie I said this earlier, but what are you aiming to fix?
God Slayer melee only reduces damage to 1, if you take less than 80 damage.
SCal kills you for anticheat if you take less than 100 damage.

anything that would be reduced would proc the anticheat anyways

[civic pond]

so the god slayer set bonus activates the anti cheat?

because thats what im getting at

[zenith hazel]

it does?

[queen sail]

It only does that if you take less han 80 damage though

[civic pond]

but if it reduces damage to 1 wouldn't that trigger it..?

[queen sail]

Bruh

[radiant meadow]

god slayerreduces dmg to 1 if you take less than 80 dmg

[queen sail]

I said it only reduces damage to one if the damage you’re going to take is less than 80

[radiant meadow]

this would proc scal's anti cheat

[civic pond]

oh my god im retarded

now i get it

[radiant meadow]

o ok

[queen sail]

Vruhmento Mori

So the answer would be that his defense/dr is through the roof

[civic pond]

i thought the 80 damage was referring to the anti cheat

[queen sail]

the anticheat triggers at < 100 hp

The only time it’d really be a concern is re: soul of the masochist

Since squeaky toy has the same effect, but it’s rng instead of < 80 hp

Even then that’s crossmod content

:echsupreme:

[signal prairie]

I'mma just remove that suggestion for now

[gaunt gazelle]

wah

i saw a post exist for like 2 seconds

[placid moth]

Increase time of adrenaline ?

[hollow saffron]

the anticheap cap is revengeance only i think

[signal prairie]

The Anticheat is all modes

[hollow saffron]

uhh

[placid moth]

I would suggest leaving the rippers alone ngl

[narrow spindle]

Was kind of thinking of requesting an increase to the Gelitic Blade pierce cap. Currently, Reveangance Wall of Flesh takes almost the entire underworld to kill it, due to lacking the adrenaline and rage damage boost. Hungries eat up all of the sword waves, making it comparatively very hard to kill it.

[signal prairie]

Wow, that must be anew change

[hollow saffron]

it's been there forever

have you been living under a rock

@narrow spindle use amidias' trident

[signal prairie]

No, I don't really pay attention to Changelogs

[hollow saffron]

or the wiki, clearly

[narrow spindle]

Swords only playthrough

[signal prairie]

I consult the wiki only when I need to

[zenith hazel]

I find the fight pretty fine as it is now

only thing that’s worth changing is probably bros’ speed

[civic pond]

i agree with that

[signal prairie]

The Bros speed is a bit lacking

[hollow saffron]

why are they locked in place lmao

it feels so rigid

only thind id change, but its been suggested b4

[signal prairie]

I could think of a really difficult brothers phase if I wanted to

[hollow saffron]

no dont

[vocal grotto]

listens in the background

[hollow saffron]

ew lurker

[zenith hazel]

Dom no~

[vocal grotto]

Nah, I just came here like 15 seconds ago

while (dominic.DoesNotHaveInformation)
{
    Brav.Silence();
}

[signal prairie]

No

[zenith hazel]

_ _

[signal prairie]

Wtf? How

[vocal grotto]

Programming magical crap

[hollow saffron]

@signal prairie ```

oops

[signal prairie]

I'm talking about how Braviolis message is blank completely

[hollow saffron]

it's "like this"```

wryyy

ugh

[zenith hazel]

let’s probably keep on topic

[hollow saffron]

use this: ` 3 times

ok

[vocal grotto]

Yeah

[terse sundial]

[frail mantle]

i don't really think SCal needs a rework tbh

[signal prairie]

Oh no

[zenith hazel]

a new quote could be nice ngl

[signal prairie]

Merk is here

[vocal grotto]

Only complaint I have with her is angled hellblasts, but that's just me

[signal prairie]

flee

[terse sundial]

I mean, if you want to suggest boss changes, now is the time to do so

[zenith hazel]

special death mode quote probs

[vocal grotto]

just program it myself

[terse sundial]

the bandwagon is slowly fading

[narrow spindle]

supreme crabulon

[terse sundial]

no

[vocal grotto]

how about no

[narrow spindle]

Moving astrum to post ml was actually really cool tho, looking forward to that.

[terse sundial]

although, having multiple suggestions in one like that is ech

[hollow saffron]

deus is post cultist wdym

[smoky wagon]

post cultist

[radiant meadow]

I think the extra dialogue is completely uneccessary

[terse sundial]

I would just pick two to three imo

[zenith hazel]

the astral bosses are still hm

[radiant meadow]

the rest of the suggestion looks fine but there's no reason for special deathmode dialogue

[civic pond]

did someone say bandwagon

The dialogue doesn't even sound like someone calamitas would say honestly

[hollow saffron]

special deathmode dialogue: go to hell but she actually teleports you into lava

[civic pond]

[zenith hazel]

sense of accomplishment maybe

but it seems 4th wall breaking ngl

[hollow saffron]

"Go to hell"

[zenith hazel]

“you beat me in death mode” seems really self-aware

[hollow saffron]

calamitas is awaret hat tis is a game

[vocal grotto]

"How curious. I suppose I'll give you this as a token of your efforts."

[hollow saffron]

^

[zenith hazel]

yeah but that takes it to another level

[hollow saffron]

thats better

[zenith hazel]

yeah

[hollow saffron]

the real question is, how would a bullet hell work irl

like, in 3d

[ashen warren]

It wouldn't

[narrow spindle]

I mean, the entire idea if a bullet hell is that you can see the bullets coming to dodge them.

Someone made a bullet hell in Minecraft and it was pretty bad.

[hollow saffron]

oof

because you can't see them coming?

"Take this, DIO! 20-meter Brimstone Splash!!!"

[narrow spindle]

They never saw it coming

Imagine getting cosmolite bullets.

[zealous ridge]

Ooh I’ve had an idea like this

Like probe bullets that shoot lasers at enemies

[vocal grotto]

Godslayer dynamite

[narrow spindle]

Ok but also, cosmolite clentaminator upgrade.

[smoky wagon]

i think a new type of homing bullets that dont suck would be cool

since chloro is omega bad

[civic pond]

a clentaminator upgrade

[narrow spindle]

Biome bomb

[hollow saffron]

biome tome

biome weapons

biome staff

[civic pond]

but they suck

[hollow saffron]

biome slail

bio-yo

[smoky wagon]

why does a full set of biome weapons sound actually cool

fuck

[civic pond]

lol

[hollow saffron]

biome bow

[civic pond]

But dont those weapons encourage the player to be in a certain biome?

[hollow saffron]

not really tbh

not for me at least

[smoky wagon]

the biome gimmick isnt useful usually

[zealous ridge]

eh I think the biome blades are good enough

[civic pond]

biome blade

more like

[smoky wagon]

they biome blade line is good standalone weapons

[hollow saffron]

the biome blades are useless until you get to the ark of the cosmos tbh

i use the ark line more

[smoky wagon]

especially once baby biome blade is buffed

[hollow saffron]

yes

[civic pond]

crafting material

[narrow spindle]

Biome shank amiright fellas

[smoky wagon]

omega biome blade is slept on

true biome blade is decent iirc

[hollow saffron]

but even still, true biome blade will carry you through 90% of hardmode once you get it

until you get the terraromere

[smoky wagon]

galaxia is galaxia

[hollow saffron]

i heard it was nerfed so it might not be the case anymore tho

[smoky wagon]

true biome blade was buffed

a huge amount

like 50% base dmg increase

then terra shiv and true ark got nerfed so it has more breathing room in that progression stage

[civic pond]

i wish the biome gimmick was actually useful

[smoky wagon]

the problem is the debuffs inflicted dont affect the biome's bosses

[civic pond]

wow that sucks

[smoky wagon]

siren and levi are immune to crush depth

cryo cant be frozen obviously

brimstone elemental is immune to brimstone flames

armor crunch in purity isnt as useful with crumbling potion

[civic pond]

maybe switch the debuffs around so that its the opposite debuff

[narrow spindle]

Also basic biome blade's projectile is really sad.

[civic pond]

I mean seriously whats the fucking point then

[smoky wagon]

maybe make it bypass debuff immunities

except for glacial state

[civic pond]

ech

[smoky wagon]

and temporal sadness also

[narrow spindle]

Or do what the corruption does and make it "counter" the current biome with a counterpart.

[zealous ridge]

yeah the biome blade effects are kind of uninteresting, I mean I thought they would actually change the projectile’s properties but it’s just the same orb

It gets better at galaxia with extra projectiles but still

[civic pond]

besides

a weapon that relies on debuffs is already gonna be nigh useless

[smoky wagon]

i wish the projectile changed colors

atleast

[narrow spindle]

It does

[zealous ridge]

Yeah I thought it did that at the least

[narrow spindle]

But the single tiny orb it fires makes it pathetic compared to other early weapons when going for ranged fire.

[smoky wagon]

wait it does?

im dumb

[narrow spindle]

No pierce on it makes it kinda sad

[radiant meadow]

biome blade is getting a buff next update

[narrow spindle]

Yeah, I hope it's a revamp more than a buff tho

[radiant meadow]

there isn't any planned revamp

I think the revamp would fit the true biome blade better instead

since biome blade is first of the line

[hollow shell]

normal Biome Blade is crafted at the very beginning of Hardmode, it's fine if it's underwhelming considering it has like 4 upgrades

[narrow spindle]

Yeah but going from useless to a main weapon is just a little odd.

[hollow saffron]

^

[zealous ridge]

the biome blade projectile should change based on biome, like it arcs when in sand biome but inflicts more dot, in ice it shoots a higher velocity ball of ice that slides on surfaces or something

[hollow saffron]

exo-weapon level programming right there

[hollow shell]

speed and maneuverability
speed and maneuverability

[hollow saffron]

@plush knot lmao you aren't in deathmode i presume, so you dont have to move off the ground

you can just stay on the ground and youll be ok

[hollow shell]

I don't think that's a Deathmode change

[hollow saffron]

exactly

[hollow shell]

No I mean

[hollow saffron]

"Revengeance and lower"

Isnt it only in death that he will chase you no matter what

[plush knot]

he does enrage when fighting him on the ground

[hollow saffron]

And in every other difficulty he just behaves like a crawltipede

Lmao dont fight him on the ground then

[plush knot]

and every single time he keeps turning too quickly to the point that i cant use my RoD in time

[hollow saffron]

who uses rod of discord post moon lord

ew

[frail mantle]

i do

[plush knot]

even the sky bridge doesnt help

[hollow saffron]

is the sky bridge actually in space

[plush knot]

yes

[hollow saffron]

and are you going off of it, like flying above it

[plush knot]

i keep trying to stay on the bridge but storm weaver just keeps turning too quickly

[zenith hazel]

who uses RoD post-ml
nohitters

[civic pond]

[hollow saffron]

besides nohitters

[civic pond]

why would you not use rod though

[hollow saffron]

bravi lmao

[zenith hazel]

people who struggle with laser walls and scal

[hollow saffron]

omg why are laser walls so bad

[civic pond]

laser walls

[hollow saffron]

just use asphlat blocks ans jump

[plush knot]

hell in the current state, signus is easier than storm weaver

[zenith hazel]

easier said than done

[civic pond]

sorry i cant hear you over my 2 fps

[hollow shell]

Xult I think you gotta realise you're in the minority here

[hollow saffron]

signus is always easy

[zenith hazel]

signus is way harder than SW

[civic pond]

[zenith hazel]

if you know what you're doing on SW, he's pretty easy

[hollow saffron]

Sors it's called s a r c a s m

[narrow spindle]

Remember when there were the tightly packed laser walls and rod gave you a debuff?

[zenith hazel]

signus, on the other hand, can make you signut in a couple of seconds with those god damn mines and boomerangs

[hollow shell]

You're not very good at being sarcastic

[civic pond]

this is a discord server

[hollow shell]

also it doesn't help for this serious conversation

[hollow saffron]

remember when laser walls were actually uniform

and sors is it mandatory that I add a /s to everything

[civic pond]

sors

[hollow shell]

Sup

[civic pond]

when is it ok to resuggest something again?

[frail mantle]

after a week iirc

[hollow shell]

One week, if the original didn't reach 90

[frail mantle]

^

[civic pond]

ok thanks

[hollow shell]

(also Xult just don't make sarcastic remarks when we're tryin to talk about balance or how a fight should go.
Doesn't help)

[hollow saffron]

okay

[zenith hazel]

SW's pretty fast to kill with certain classes ngl

I think SW is mainly just very fast circles/infinity symbols

[opaque grail]

that last suggest says speed and maneuverability so much its so hard to read

[zenith hazel]

SW despawning is gonna be fixed next update iirc

[civic pond]

storm weaver lasted seconds thanks to stellar striker

[smoky wagon]

storm weaver is annoying but you can always make a bigger arena

i struggled because i tried to make a quick one

i still beat it after like 10 tries

[plush knot]

i was able to beat storm weaver on my first attempts but after signus, he just gone woke and became harder than scal herself

[zealous ridge]

What you mean storm weaver got harder for you?

[plush knot]

some how

[zealous ridge]

mmm

you’re fighting him in space right?

[narrow spindle]

SW in space is death due to slow falling speed.

Fight it lower for better results.

[hollow saffron]

or use that one potion that negates slow falling speed

@narrow spindle

[smoky wagon]

gravity normalizer

[hollow saffron]

yeah that

[smoky wagon]

storm weaver enrages outside of space so its not a good idea

[narrow spindle]

I've been out of date for about 20 updates, didn't know that was a thing.

[smoky wagon]

update your mod

[hollow saffron]

^

[narrow spindle]

I did, just started a playthrough.

Also the storm saber is really, really sad considering it's the aftershock's counterpart.

[winged ice]

Haven't fought the new storm weaver, but enraged weaver has never been a problem. In fact, I find it easier because I'm not dealing with the low gravity

[narrow spindle]

^

[smoky wagon]

storm saber is crafting ingredient

for an actually interesting sword

[hollow shell]

It'd help if it was a little more than just a projectile sword

[smoky wagon]

maybe it could use wind blade’s projectiles

but upgraded for hm

[plush knot]

@winged ice they buffed enraged storm weaver to the point that the only viable way to fight weaver is in space

[winged ice]

Lore item time

[zenith hazel]

or you can just... use the cobalt shield from pre-hm?

[zealous ridge]

Strange that it has a summon related bonus that’s tied to dr , but I think the idea of more shields is hot

[unique vector]

@lost vigil i can't tell if that's a meme suggestion.

either elaborate on what you mean, or delete the suggestion.

yes please, refrain from memeing in that channel.

[hollow saffron]

@queen delta also shouldnt the clone be a bit less agressive

because 99% of the time im killed when it randomly charges at me

[distant gyro]

it's already not too agressive

unless you leave the biome

[queen delta]

I find clone to be fine

[distant gyro]

yea polterclone has a charge spasm if you accidentally go to a non-dungeon area but that's all

[queen delta]

It still does charge fast even if in dungeon but as long as hooks exist, they wouldnt be able to reach me

[smoky wagon]

Maybe add the bouncing bolts despawning upon the start of p3 since they can linger for a long time and lead to cheap hits

[golden kayak]

Yay my suggestion hit 90.

Seems like it does make sense 🤔

[hollow saffron]

tbh i hope the thing about making polter not enrage while in the caverns is gonna be implementes

[full bramble]

p3 polter makes me

[hollow saffron]

p3 polter is

[queen delta]

I would’ve, but tbh, with bolts bouncing less, theres no need to despawn them

[zenith hazel]

sees early-game flamethrower suggestion
ah shit, here we go again

[golden kayak]

Sorry if this is annoying. Never actually saw one

[zenith hazel]

eh it's ok, there were a few at one point in the past

seems interesting

[tired haven]

Makes me a bit sad you still need to kill stuff to get it, but better than nothing

[queen sail]

If you want early game flamethrowers, NEF mod is your best bet

[golden kayak]

The worst thing about this is that i pretty much HAVE to play on Corruption world to get mid-hm flamethrower. I really think Crimson should get it's counterpart.

@queen sail Ehh I use it, but it's nos-so-quality-content tbh.

[smoky wagon]

well you can always make an artificial corruption biome

[golden kayak]

@tired haven I do not think they will just make one to have in Starter bag lol.

@smoky wagon Yeah Ik, or floating island.

[smoky wagon]

i do that in my playthroughs because i like both of the biome’s bosses

[tired haven]

Well obviously enough

Subclasses get nothing

[smoky wagon]

well the floating island is inconvenient

[golden kayak]

Maybe it is better to change Desert Feathers to Mandibles of some sort?

[smoky wagon]

Whats the name/theme of the weapon anyway

like a desert flamethrower?

[zenith hazel]

Ra's Flare probably

fits with the whole desert - sun - fire thing

[smoky wagon]

Then a recipe like desert feathers, illegal gun parts, gold/platinum bars, victory shards would make more sense

it would fit the desert theme and force you to atleast have the arms dealer and have explored the underground desert a bit

[golden kayak]

The point of it is getting it early in the game.

[zenith hazel]

but yeah, having it be desert-themed is a good start

[golden kayak]

But maybe you are right.
I think it should barely be possible to kill Hive mind with it so you get an upgrade.

You can't really get there if a weapon is so easily crafted.

[smoky wagon]

A flamethrower that early should feel earned

[zenith hazel]

victory shards fit

[smoky wagon]

Especially if its supposed to be viable for some bosses

[golden kayak]

Aren't victory shards used too frequently in early recipes?

[smoky wagon]

Firestorm cannon is a good comparison

Yes they are

[golden kayak]

Feathers only have like 3 recipes? Or 2?

[smoky wagon]

Desert feathers have 3 i think

[golden kayak]

But illegal gun parts 100% make sense.

[smoky wagon]

so another use would be nice

[radiant meadow]

@plush knot storm weaver despawning is planned to be fixed next update. Please be patient

[zenith hazel]

sup Termi

[golden kayak]

Yeah that is what I thought fiest.

[zenith hazel]

but yeah, it'll be fixed

[smoky wagon]

I dont think he is talking about it despawning

Hes talking about the actual fight

[radiant meadow]

He mentioned it

[zenith hazel]

he did mention it despawning at the end iirc

[smoky wagon]

oh

[golden kayak]

@zenith hazel Maybe Ra's breath? Or "breath" is overused lol.

[zenith hazel]

that could work too

Ra's Rage or Inferno or Blaze, whichever you prefer

[golden kayak]

Rage I suppose.

Or Blaze.

(Also I just realised the mod does not have any early snow biome weapons and has a ton of Desert-themed ones so maybe I will think about it).

[distant gyro]

I mean, things like spewer works too

[golden kayak]

Can't flamethrower inflict frostburn huh 🤔

[distant gyro]

or sprinkler

[zenith hazel]

I would not want to see what the sun god spews out

[distant gyro]

tbh frosted sprinkler

[golden kayak]

Maybe this one should be later than Ra's something and like this early flame curve will be smoothed.

Like shards from sunken sea + some snowy stuff and we get a nice blue-colored flamethrower.

[plucky matrix]

Polterghast doesn't need changes he's perfectly fine you just need the right arena size and a reaction time that isn't 2 seconds

[zenith hazel]

again with this discussion

[plucky matrix]

Yes yata is just too stubborn to realize polter is fine or he has bad reaction time kappa

[golden kayak]

Make polter make his own arena so you do not have to build a 1km x 1km arena 👀

[plucky matrix]

That's the thing, if you have a massive arena bullets go Mach 10 and then it's rng

If it's too small you have no space to dodge

[golden kayak]

That is bad thing imo. Why would you depend on arena THAT much huh?

[plucky matrix]

Tell that plantera brimmy provi and others

[queen sail]

I can tell you that surface arenas help against eow a lot

[golden kayak]

Ehh I do not feel like it is the best comparison.

@plucky matrix I can't even tell, have not played on death and on Rev these does not really require arenas (unless Prov in hell)

[queen sail]

I can also say that dog is built for skybridges

[plucky matrix]

If you wanna get really technical, polter doesn't require an arena either

He's exactly as arena dependant as say plantera: bad arena, horribly hard; good arena, decently easy

[golden kayak]

JUST FIGHT THEM ON SURFACE

[queen sail]

Broke: Fighting Plantera on the surface

Woke: Fighting Skeletron during the day

[golden kayak]

I wonder what is harder.

[queen sail]

Bespoke: Fighting Fishron outside of the ocean

[neon birch]

Soak: Fighting Leviathan out of the ocean

[radiant meadow]

please take this channel seriously @zinc thunder

[slate crown]

@terse sundial https://discordapp.com/channels/225030931008847874/263382359397761025/601573326753759254

[terse sundial]

don't ping me again

oh

a different one

[gusty geode]

It still pains me that flamethrowers are getting more attention than Summoner
I won't deny there are flaws to the class
But how do we go about fixing them without destroying what the class is?

I know a while back I'd suggested the ability to set the kinds of enemies a particular minion type targeted
The one with the most health, the most common one, etc
That would at least partially alleviate the targeting issue, and at the same time add a layer of strategy to the class
What minions would be best for what job?

[ivory heart]

Accessory.Summoner.NoDebuffHold
Holding a non-summon weapon will no longer reduce summon damage. Summon damage increased by 3%
Tooltip: Non-summon weapons will no longer reduce damage
3% increased summon damage
Why: I use Summoner so that I can nail extra damage while using my own weapon of choice. An accessory like this might let other classes try out the Summoner class while letting them use their own weapons as well.

[gusty geode]

Eh?
I'm all for bringing back multi-classing
But it doesn't do much good for people who want to play pure summoner

[hollow shell]

(that tooltip is quite redundant considering you just described what it does)

[gusty geode]

Anyway
I feel like that adjustment to targeting, as well as more "support" minions; ones that buff the player or other minions as well as/instead of doing direct damage, would make Summoner a much more interesting and fun class

[smoky wagon]

you know why summons arent added

because they take forever to code

[gusty geode]

Yeah, I realize that
It doesn't have to happen now
But I'd still like to think it'll be addressed eventually
Even if it's in post-develeopment, when all the more important shit is taken care of and they have nothing else to do

[lost agate]

I mean

No one ever said there wont ever be any more summons

[smoky wagon]

i dont imagine there will be any new ones added anytime soon

except for patreon items maybe

[lost agate]

Who knows

[radiant meadow]

There are planned summons that will be added in the future

so yes, it'll be addressed eventually

it might not have as many weapons as melee, but it will have some future expansion

[smoky wagon]

i feel like draedon will get a summon item as a drop

whenever that comes along

[civic pond]

no

just no

[queen sail]

@strong jacinth why do you think Begone, Evil! exists

[civic pond]

3 spreading biomes would be a butt fucking pain to deal with

[smoky wagon]

mod developers intentionally made it not spread

[civic pond]

thank god

[smoky wagon]

thus it will never be implemented

[hollow shell]

@strong jacinth The excuse is that it'd be annoying as fuck

Since day 1 Fab said the infection wouldn't spread

[queen sail]

Mostly everyone finds spreading biomes to be cancer

[civic pond]

they're literally cancer

on earth

[queen sail]

Having a corrupted jungle is already a massive pain in the ass

[gusty geode]

A config would be best, yeah
Some people do actually like spreading biomes
But if it's configurable then everyone gets their way

[queen sail]

@cosmic musk bruh sw is fixed next update

[cosmic musk]

what the F U C K

[smoky wagon]

they havent specified if the enrage was removed

have they?

because it really should

[cosmic musk]

I don't see Storm Weaver mentioned at all in the changelogs

Was it somewhere else that I missed?

[smoky wagon]

changelogs are incomplete

but beta testers say storm weaver is fixed

[queen sail]

Only fabsol updates the changelogs

So he does it whenever

[smoky wagon]

he forgets stuff

i almost feel like multiple people should update it

[cosmic musk]

Well I don't feel bad about not knowing then 😅

[radiant meadow]

Storm Weaver despawning is fixed

[cosmic musk]

glad to hear it's been adressed, awesome.

[radiant meadow]

idk if the enrage is getting removed

[cosmic musk]

^_^

I don't mind the enrage as long as it doesn't despawn lol

[radiant meadow]

so he might still move at supersonic speeds to yeet your ass

but the despawning should be fixed, yes

[smoky wagon]

not exactly fair

[cosmic musk]

ok in that case ill just delete the post :) ty for the info

[smoky wagon]

for him to fly at mach speed during DoG

especially for no hits

[sand umbra]

I mean it's not exactly fair for Ceaseless to commit big succ while moving at mach 2 either yet that's basically a given because of how Sentinel enrages work currently.

[smoky wagon]

ceaseless is not hard during DoG fight

you have so much room

[sand umbra]

Fair enough.

[smoky wagon]

the enrage doesnt matter

the only time its annoying is when the dark energies hide really far away and you cant hit them

[sand umbra]

Ah yes, Dark Energies.

Also known in the DoG fight as "can you come over here so I can fucking hit you and move on to SW please"--

[cosmic musk]

I wouldn't mind if the Dark Energies moved a little faster so they actually keep up with CV

[civic pond]

for me they all just spread out

[cosmic musk]

this wasn't an issue before but now you gotta dodge the succ

[smoky wagon]

you just want a long range homing weapon

melee sadly lacks one thats good for that tier

[civic pond]

soul edge?

ech

[smoky wagon]

soul edge is not long range

[civic pond]

rip

[cosmic musk]

I think that's out of its range

[smoky wagon]

the souls boomerang back to you before they go off screen usually

[cosmic musk]

AotE is your best bet but that thing will be _ S L O W _

[smoky wagon]

which means you can stack a ton for signut phase

but its not good for sniping dark energies

[civic pond]

banshee hook worked fine for me tbh

i dunno

[queen sail]

Not really

The souls despawn after a few seconds

[smoky wagon]

i just spammed terror blade until i hit them

[cosmic musk]

I was having trouble hitting with Banshee hook

They were too far out

[smoky wagon]

the souls linger for a few seconds so while signus spawns off screen you can build a bunch

then they all hit it for like half its health

[cosmic musk]

"Hi Signus!"

"Bye Signus!"

[civic pond]

bye

[smoky wagon]

pretty much

[ashen warren]

polter changes are good

mourningstar early is good

@queen delta headpat

[civic pond]

[cosmic musk]

Less RNG in the bosses is always a +1 from me

:D

cries in retinazer

[teal ibex]

technically angled hellblasts have a consistent method of dodging, but it took me hundreds of attempts to discover it sooo probably worth changing still LOL

[hollow saffron]

dominik that is a good idea

[earnest raptor]

My suggestion is good?

[cosmic musk]

agree with changing the BHs for scal

[frail mantle]

mentioned weapons are very boring and uneffective
ice stars

[bitter drift]

i find that to be true

[earnest raptor]

@frail mantle effective, but as is, it's just projectile, like throwing knifes or rot balls.

It's ability to home are really sucks, so I consider them as one of that consumables.

[frail mantle]

Ice Stars are very good

[earnest raptor]

But it's pretty boring.

Just throwing big shurikens.

[frail mantle]

not every weapon needs to be super interesting

[earnest raptor]

True.

[frail mantle]

look at basically the entire Ranged class

[earnest raptor]

But other Cryogen drops are a lot more interesting to use.

[frail mantle]

doesn't mean that every single one of the Cryo weapons need to be interesting/unique

besides, the Ice Stars already have a nice gimmick

there aren't that many other Rogue weapons that home in on enemies and pierce

[earnest raptor]

Okay. I mean, that Ice Stars are just more powerful Titanium Shuriken, which kinda bothers me.

Yep, it's homes.

Cool.

But look at other weapons on that stage.

[frail mantle]

Ancient Ice Chunk is also pretty boring

[earnest raptor]

But it's look amazing.

[frail mantle]

it's basically a Deadly Sphere that travels through blocks and inflicts a debuff

[earnest raptor]

I throughs about rogue weapons.

Okay, I'll remove Ice Star.

[frail mantle]

yea

the others i can agree with

[hollow shell]

@signal prairie Reason why?

Also Heart Rapier is a spear.

[signal prairie]

Yeah, gimme a secc

[wooden leaf]

feel more like a donator wep

[hollow shell]

I'm pretty sure that Cosmic Rapier has passed the "overcomplicated" threshold

mentioned in the "Don'ts" doc

[signal prairie]

Yeah, I thought so. I'm changing them now

[hollow shell]

Okay

Of all the classes to give more options to SCal for...

Ya pick the one that has the most options

[signal prairie]

I'm giving more options to all classes for scal

These are just a start

[hollow shell]

Oh there's more comin?

[signal prairie]

Yep, gotta sprite them and come up with the names, stats etc

[hollow shell]

cool

Don't forget to add a reason for Electric Rapier

[signal prairie]

I did

Plus, I'm proud of those sprites

Anyways, thoughts about the sugestion and the sprites?

[frail mantle]

i don't really think any of the classes really need more options for SCal

[wooden leaf]

summon do need more option

[signal prairie]

I'mma suggest more options for all classes against Scal, I'm going to sprite them aswell

[frail mantle]

Summoners don't need more options though

they've got three, all of which are very good

what

[signal prairie]

I'm trying to expand more options for Scal because fighting her with the same weapons over and over again can get stale

[frail mantle]

Rogue has two, Ranged has three, Melee has three, Mage has three

[signal prairie]

All of which are strong but stale to use

[earnest raptor]

Install other mods

If you tired in Calamity, move to something else.

[signal prairie]

I'm not tired of Calamity, just wanting to expand the options. Plus remember, Scal isnt the final boss of the mod

[hollow shell]

Do you mean that in a Yharon sort of way or a Yharim sort of way

[signal prairie]

I meant that as shes not the planned final boss

[hollow shell]

Aight

[distant gyro]

@radiant meadow Murasama?

smh termi iirc

[radiant meadow]

oops lol

[distant gyro]

bruh indeed

[radiant meadow]

well, Murasama technically is a phm weapon so...

[distant gyro]

[spark flax]

No no, go on Termi, I like where this is going

[tired haven]

I mean, you won't be able to use it anyway so

[radiant meadow]

downgrade for Luxor's spam

[civic pond]

[signal prairie]

Oh nu

[distant gyro]

[civic pond]

i wish, but that aint happening ever

[distant gyro]

never ever

[signal prairie]

^

[civic pond]

[distant gyro]

And if it does then it's gonna be buggy as hell

[hollow saffron]

when you realize that would require a massive overhaul of traditional etrraria mechanics and would make the mod 10x bigger than normal terraria

pun intended

[narrow mulch]

Dimensions are incredibly difficult to code. Though, someone's working on making dimensions easier to make. I think it was Dradon?

Oh, actually, I think... Pinkymod? Adds dimensions, though they're currently very unstable iirc

[zenith hazel]

doesn't mage have like 3 viable weapons for scal anyway?

[hollow saffron]

vivid clarity is no

yharims crystal is underpowered

subsuming vortex is good

voltaic climax doesnt do enough damage

the wand restricts vision

[zenith hazel]

void vortex, SSV, crystal

[hollow saffron]

void vortex is good

[crystal osprey]

Only ssv is widely available tho

[hollow saffron]

yharims crystal as i said is underpowered

that too

[zenith hazel]

oh well

[hollow saffron]

i was lucky enough to get the crystal on my second ever yharon kill but it turned out to be underpowered

[crystal osprey]

Nah it's really good against scal

But r a re

[hollow saffron]

It wasnt good for me

[frail mantle]

Vivid Clarity, Subsuming Vortex, Yharim's Crystal and i think Void Vortex are all viable against SCal

[zenith hazel]

VC can be good but high IQ

[hollow saffron]

Vivid clarity is uh

[echo horizon]

its void vertex boi

[hollow saffron]

And then you have to think about accessibility

VC and SSV are the most accessible

YC is legendary and VV is rare af

[radiant meadow]

crystal isn't a legendary

[hollow saffron]

yharims crystal?

[zenith hazel]

it's rare but not legendary

[zealous ridge]

plus just use defiled

[civic pond]

[hollow saffron]

!wiki yharims crystal

[red storm]

https://calamitymod.gamepedia.com/Yharim's_Crystal
Not the correct result? Use !wiki page yharims crystal for a direct link or !wiki search yharims crystal for a list of all hits.

Calamity Mod Wiki

Yharim's Crystal

Yharim's Crystal is a post-Moon Lord magic weapon that acts like the Last Prism. It fires several beams that converge into one as it charges, dealing massive damage. It is a rare drop and has a 1/100 chance to drop from Jungle Dragon, Yharon. Yharim's Crystal cannot deal any knockback.
Its best modifier is Demonic for damage output, or Mystic for mana conservation. It cannot get modifiers that affect knockback.

[radiant meadow]

defiled doesnt' affect drop rates of crystal or void vortex

[zenith hazel]

defiled doesn't work on crystal

[hollow saffron]

imagine using defiled on postml bosses

[zenith hazel]

nor any of the RIVs iirc

[radiant meadow]

please don't use wiki bot commands in this channel

[hollow saffron]

ok sorry

[radiant meadow]

unless you're bringing it up to help someone other than yourself

[queen sail]

Crystal isn’t a legendary lmao

[zealous ridge]

Either way, for the bosses or for the enemies?

[hollow saffron]

Well its still rare af

[zenith hazel]

besides, crystal is still great against scal at the cost of "mobility"

[radiant meadow]

RIVs not having increased drop rates in defiled is intentional I believe

[hollow saffron]

^

[zealous ridge]

should the enemies drop at 5% or stay as they are

[hollow saffron]

Also dont legendary weapons already have a 1% drop chance

[zenith hazel]

crystal also shreds sepulcher hearts

[radiant meadow]

legendaries have a 1% drop chance, yes

[hollow saffron]

scal out there with 70% DR tanking all your attacks as you run out of mana

[queen sail]

Legendaries are affected by defiled

[distant gyro]

@hollow saffron
Oh, so do you want the Eye of Magnus's drop chance to lower to 5% from 10%?

[hollow saffron]

uH

[distant gyro]

lol

[hollow saffron]

consider that quasar and void vortex have 2.5% drop chances

[radiant meadow]

the general precedent is that bosses + armored digger drop rivs at 2.5%

rarer enemies and some minibosses drop rivs at 1%

common enemies drop it at 0.5%

[hollow saffron]

yes

[radiant meadow]

and rune wizard drops it at 10%

[hollow saffron]

thats why i changed my submission title to boss-dropped RIVs

[distant gyro]

5% is quite a number

If anything I think the only drop that should get a raise is Cultist

[earnest raptor]

^

[distant gyro]

Since Thorn Blossom grind is lol

[hollow saffron]

because you're totally gonna fight dog or yharon 50 times to get a rare weapon

[earnest raptor]

Farming Cultist is fuckingly hilarious.

[hollow saffron]

or skeletron

i feel that some of the RIVs are just too hard to get given how hard it is to farm a ceretain boss

[distant gyro]

I'm down to fight PBG 100 times for the Malachite.

[hollow saffron]

me getting the SHPC on my first destroyer kill and the cosmic discharge during my mage playthrough on the 5th try

[radiant meadow]

skeletron and cultist might need raised drop rates since they're a pain to farm

but I don't think anything else really needs the boost

[hollow saffron]

should I change my suggestion then to those bosses

[earnest raptor]

Maybe.

[radiant meadow]

but rivs aren't really meant to be farmed for in the first place

they're intended to be the "oh cool, new weapon I randomly found" type weapon

[distant gyro]

tbh thorn blossom 7.5%, clothier's wrath 5%

[hollow saffron]

but i want the dune hopper

[distant gyro]

Summon -> Bomb with piercing damage -> Repeat

[smoky wagon]

dune hopper is easy with armageddon

[hollow saffron]

atlix

im barely post hivemind

in deathmode

[smoky wagon]

so?

[civic pond]

[smoky wagon]

i did desert scourge armageddon post-EoW

[hollow saffron]

my main weapon is the seafoam bomb

[smoky wagon]

you could do it earlier with seafoam bomb

[hollow saffron]

and i dislike using arma

[smoky wagon]

thats all you need lol

[earnest raptor]

🤔

[hollow saffron]

because ive only really played on revengeance and the mini scourges feel a lot more agressive'

[smoky wagon]

well then dont complain about low drop chances if you dont even use armaggedon on easy bosses

[earnest raptor]

Dune Hopper with their rarity are simple not viable.

[hollow saffron]

did you even see my submission

[earnest raptor]

[civic pond]

uh

talks about skeletron and lunatic

[smoky wagon]

you are saying here you still want all the boss RiVs to be more common?

i know you editied the suggestion

[hollow saffron]

I didnt say that here after I changed my suggestion.

[smoky wagon]

🤔

[hollow saffron]

Im just saying I'm still trying to get used to deathmode changes because this is my first deathmode playthrough

And the "but I want the dune hopper" comment was a joke

I dont need it since itll probs be useless anyway

[distant gyro]

Was it though

[civic pond]

didn't sound like a joke to me

[smoky wagon]

^

[hollow saffron]

Well it wasnt serious at the very least

[distant gyro]

Yea, sound like "it's a joke" was a method of getting away

[civic pond]

remember what they said about sarcasm and jokes in #suggestions-discussion

they dont help

[hollow saffron]

WELL IT WASNT SERIOUS, IS THAT OKAY FOR YOU

[smoky wagon]

YES IT IS

[civic pond]

o k

[hollow saffron]

WELL THEN M O V E O N

[distant gyro]

Anyways, Cultist's should be raised more than skelly

iirc

[earnest raptor]

Is RIV meant to be just collectible items, rather that something useful?

[smoky wagon]

no they are meant to be useful

[distant gyro]

They are useful collectibles

[earnest raptor]

Except Dune Hopper

[smoky wagon]

dune hopper is good though?

for its tier

[unique vector]

RIVs are meant to reward players for dedicating time to grinding, or to those lucky enough to obtain them

[distant gyro]

Or just simply last resort weapons (applies to some)

[unique vector]

think borderlands

[hollow saffron]

So basically @unique vector it's a reward for farming

[smoky wagon]

yes

[unique vector]

yes, it was inspired by borderlands

[signal prairie]

Or bragging rights if you get one first try

[unique vector]

basically you shouldn't rely on getting them to progress

[distant gyro]

[unique vector]

but if you do get them well lucky you

[hollow saffron]

the only bragging rights go to getting a legendary first try

[smoky wagon]

i got two shpcs in my first two destroyer bags

[terse sundial]

[hollow saffron]

madlad

[terse sundial]

I dislike the RIV suggestion also

[signal prairie]

The only Legendary I haven't gotten first try is Cosmic Discharge

[hollow saffron]

[smoky wagon]

for these two bosses raising the drop chance makes sense

[terse sundial]

if you get the RIV you want then good for you, but they aren't required to obtain

[smoky wagon]

especially the cultist

look at how its higher for the rune wizard because they are hard to farm

[hollow saffron]

what if someone wants to get all RIV's and legendaries to flex on others

i actually want to do that for my rogue playthrough

[terse sundial]

that's your choice

we aren't going to shape the drop rate of them around one person

[zealous ridge]

Not everyone will want to get all weapons for bragging rights

[gaunt gazelle]

fargos mod is going to require all rivs

[hollow saffron]

^

[terse sundial]

Calamity isnt balanced around FARGOs

tough luck if they do require them

[gaunt gazelle]

calamity isnt balanced*

[hollow saffron]

and besides, trying to farm skelly and the cultist is har

d

[gaunt gazelle]

but ye skelly and cultist are much harder to farm

[hollow saffron]

killing an NPC or going through an entire event and another boss just to get a weapon

[terse sundial]

@gaunt gazelle Please do not make "Calamity is not balanced" jokes, you are hurting more people then you think you are

[hollow saffron]

calamity balances around itself

[terse sundial]

we try our best to make the mod balanced

[hollow saffron]

because yeah any mod with a ton of postML blsses isnt going to be balanced compared to the base game

and if you want to talk unbalanced, look at fargo's soul mod or the sword of the universe mod

[smoky wagon]

fargo’s souls is meant to be used with masomode anyway

to balance it out

[civic pond]

what does fargo's soul mod have to do with balance and RIV's again

[earnest raptor]

What is blsses?

[smoky wagon]

bosses

[gaunt gazelle]

bosses i think

[hollow saffron]

@civic pond someone was complaining that calamity isnt balances

blsses is supposed to be bosses, my bad

[earnest raptor]

You didn't get a joke

[civic pond]

ooook then im going back to #calamity-mod-talk

h

[earnest raptor]

thinks about new blss suggestion

[hollow saffron]

whatever happened to no joking

[gaunt gazelle]

blss suggestions arent allowed trashbox

read the pins

[earnest raptor]

Boss are not allowed.

Blsses are not mentioned

[lost agate]

Dont meme in here

[hollow saffron]

^

[lost agate]

And yes we are trying to balance stuff constantly

And well, for example wings were balanced to vanilla levels and some people didnt like that anyway soooooo

[zealous ridge]

Yeah calamity tries to balance to more of a fun level than a vanilla level from what I’ve seen

[marble mirage]

i tried

[zealous ridge]

pretty commonly suggested

[hollow saffron]

oof

[lost agate]

Kinda hard to fulfill everyone's expectations on balancing when some people think memebow is balanced and dont give a fuck about flails beong weak af

[frail mantle]

iirc a Plague summon weapon is on the Don'ts Doc

[marble mirage]

huh, i didn't know, since i only joined recently

[hollow idol]

duke and ravager have summon weapons tho

[hollow saffron]

@lost agate memebow?

[zealous ridge]

Yeah be sure to check that thing for general tips on what not to do

[frail mantle]

stormbow

[hollow saffron]

oh

[lost agate]

Daedalus stormbow

[hollow saffron]

when its so balanced they are nerfing it in 1.4

[marble mirage]

i saw it, there wasn't any mention of a plague minion, only biome, structure or minibiome

[frail mantle]

there is

[smoky wagon]

when vanilla nerfs a weapon you know its beyond op

Look at phantasm

[hollow saffron]

is a plague minibiome being added anyway

[civic pond]

whats this about flails

[hollow idol]

if its on there its probably one of the constantly suggesteds

[lost agate]

Most flails suck thats what

[hollow idol]

so basically you can to see if there is still demand

[hollow saffron]

flail playthrough

[lost agate]

On vanilla at least

[terse sundial]

[civic pond]

[marble mirage]

yeah, took another look, it isn't on there

[earnest raptor]

Flails are good.

[civic pond]

i could argue flails are balanced

[terse sundial]

It's on the frequently suggested section

[marble mirage]

though if it's so commonly suggested, it should maybe be added

[civic pond]

but not now

[civic pond]

lol

[smoky wagon]

calamity mod flails are decently balanced

[marble mirage]

ah

[earnest raptor]

But got inviable because of damn Yo-yos.

[smoky wagon]

mourningstar is an exception

[terse sundial]

we aren't going to send 10 + plague summons

[marble mirage]

lemme just delete it

sorry

[civic pond]

true melee weapon that does more damage the closer you are

[marble mirage]

i'll try to think of a better suggestion

[hollow saffron]

waiting for a consumable auric rogue weapon while people are out here making plague suggestions

[frail mantle]

it's okay

[civic pond]

always remember to

[hollow idol]

celestus

[marble mirage]

yeah i cheked, guess i just didn't see it

[civic pond]

consumable bad

[marble mirage]

like a dumbass

[frail mantle]

[hollow saffron]

waiting for an auric spear

[marble mirage]

imagine making consumable weapons

[smoky wagon]

Auric weapon suggs are banned

[hollow saffron]

imagine making an entirely new damage class

I know Guwa

Thats why I didnt suggest it

[civic pond]

i thought auric and exo were the same thing

[hollow saffron]

they are

[civic pond]

are they?

k

[marble mirage]

kinda just wanna see more summoner content in the mod, and having a hard mode hornet staff would have been neat

[smoky wagon]

sorta

[civic pond]

summons tend to be a bitch to code

[zealous ridge]

I agree nuclear

[frail mantle]

tbh the worst part of the game for a Summoner is Early Hardmode

[smoky wagon]

ancient ice chunk meta

[civic pond]

ancient ice chunk

[frail mantle]

the weapons for that tier mostly get sorta ech dps iirc

[civic pond]

summons are either complete shit or overpowered as hell

[frail mantle]

unless you use OOA memes, that is

[civic pond]

there is no in between

[frail mantle]

true

[smoky wagon]

Summoner should be a glass cannon

[civic pond]

OOA is wacc

[smoky wagon]

by design

lowest defense of any class

[civic pond]

all the summoner would have to do is dodge and let the summons do the work

[smoky wagon]

But can focus on dodging

[civic pond]

unless stardust dragon.

[marble mirage]

ew dragons

[smoky wagon]

Stardust cell meta

[civic pond]

stardust dragon left me to die

[zealous ridge]

honestly I’d like to see more summoner mechanics, like idk a channelable summon weapon that calls minions to the cursor

[lost agate]

Theres several ideas for summon weapons atm, its just that some arent totally fleshed out yet or no one is up to coding smth just yet

[zealous ridge]

fair

[smoky wagon]

Rogue needs stuff more than summoner

[civic pond]

i would hold off on the summoner suggestions

[frail mantle]

i think about half of my suggestions are Summoner-related

[smoky wagon]

mainly, vanilla bosses and vanilla crafting materials need rogue weapons

[civic pond]

if anything rogue needs accessories

[lost agate]

Well rogue is getting a brick

[smoky wagon]

duke fishron, plant, golem, chlorophyte, hellstone

[civic pond]

good throwing weapon

[smoky wagon]

to name a few

[civic pond]

[lost agate]

Rogue expansion its like really close so we shall see

[smoky wagon]

Wheres my exo brick

lazy devs

[zealous ridge]

summoner needs a spirit glyph upgrade

but yeah I’m gonna hold off on suggesting until we get more content after all they’re just suggestions😎

[lost agate]

smh im the one who made the brick

[civic pond]

[lost agate]

Its WIP ofc

[smoky wagon]

sounds like the saw from the silksong trailer

[lost agate]

The brick?

[civic pond]

not the brick

[smoky wagon]

No the new suggestion

[lost agate]

Oh

[marble mirage]

saaaaawmill

[queen sail]

That’s

[civic pond]

whats with all the saw weapons i saw earlier

[queen sail]

Uh

[civic pond]

[queen sail]

I’m ngl, that doesn’t really sound useful for scal

[smoky wagon]

its high iq

[civic pond]

properly setup arena

[zealous ridge]

would that be considered auric suggestion?
either way it’s okay I guess, weird that it affects bosses before moon lord

[frail mantle]

it sounds like it'd only be useful for Invasions

[smoky wagon]

ngl i feel like a weapon like that makes more sense for pre-hm

[civic pond]

crowd control weapon

[smoky wagon]

why post yharon

[zealous ridge]

And is it rogue?

[civic pond]

probably rogue

[smoky wagon]

yes

[earnest raptor]

@queen sail setup platforms on places where brimstone hearts and brothers spawn, watch as saw cuts SCal's minions

[zealous ridge]

yeah what I thought

[civic pond]

yeah but

[smoky wagon]

so it travels on platforms?

[civic pond]

there are easier ways to do it

[smoky wagon]

sounds hard to code

also celestus exists

[queen sail]

That is the most roundabout ass way i’ve ever heard of getting rid of the hearts

[civic pond]

it would work like those blaze wheels in the dungeon i assume

only thing i can think of

[zealous ridge]

burning wheel has similar behavior

[smoky wagon]

make it be some mid pre-hardmode weapon instead

[lost agate]

Sounds kinda weird to have a saw run through platforms and not break them

[smoky wagon]

It could be useful for the dungeon

[zenith hazel]

would be nice if scal wasn't moving 90% of the time

[civic pond]

[zenith hazel]

besides, it's an auric weapon and it not always goes well with auric weapons

[lost agate]

Also, the recipe its legit just shurikens with auric ore

[earnest raptor]

Changed to post-Plant.

[lost agate]

And well, what if u dont have titanium?

[radiant meadow]

20 ectoplasm at a draedon's forge

[zenith hazel]

spinning axe

[golden kayak]

Draedon's forge tho?

[earnest raptor]

Ouch.

[marble mirage]

mmmmmm, tasty post plantera weapon craftable after DoG

[earnest raptor]

Mythril Anvil, of course.

[zenith hazel]

"this thing can be useful for scal"
seems legit

[earnest raptor]

OUCH

Fixed!

[zenith hazel]

it seems probably too good for aureus and ravager

[lost agate]

Depends on dmg

[frail mantle]

isn't Post-Plant the part of the game where Rogue weapons become more unique

[earnest raptor]

[zenith hazel]

HFSD, stellar knife, brackish, etc

[frail mantle]

^

[radiant meadow]

I mean, rogue does get like 3 flask type weapons

[frail mantle]

true

[radiant meadow]

but there are other options

[frail mantle]

but still, they're all pretty different in function

[marble mirage]

what if you drink the flask

[zenith hazel]

well ballistic leaves poison clouds behind and brackish leaves poisonous seawater behind

but yeah, they're pretty different

[earnest raptor]

@marble mirage ability to sandstorm fart without accessory

[golden kayak]

Ballistic bomb is better than sand bottle 🤔

[marble mirage]

ass shredded

[earnest raptor]

Where the stars

[marble mirage]

imagine yeeting stars at enemies

[earnest raptor]

@marble mirage created.

[marble mirage]

i was joking

[radiant meadow]

astrum aureus and deus are planned to have their weapon pools expanded

[zealous ridge]

yay

[radiant meadow]

much like what happened to ravager

[marble mirage]

thank god

now to make astral armor actually good

[earnest raptor]

I do not have idea currently.

[zenith hazel]

also, throwing clouds? that’s new

[marble mirage]

pocket sand but cooler

[earnest raptor]

Providab is about to create yet another amazing suggestion

[hollow saffron]

tbh aureus should have actual drops

[radiant meadow]

and aureus will have "actual drops" in the future