#suggestions-discussion

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lost agate
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Hmm, idk

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Im not sure how it works, also, im pretty sure people often make more than 4 layers

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Around 7 layers at least i think

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And well, normal mode arena is huuuuuuge, so it could get even worse there

grizzled sage
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Auto,is that Madotsuki I see?

U wot Yume Nikki/.flow/Yume 2kki?

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@unborn sun

unborn sun
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yos

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its my favorite game

radiant meadow
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Please keep this to talking about suggestions

unborn sun
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right sorry

glossy bough
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is there a bumblebirb pet yet

mystic sandal
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no

glossy bough
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dammit

proven tide
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@vital jungle no

vital jungle
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@proven tide why?

distant gyro
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  1. will be pretty crazy
  2. some will literally contradict each other
vital jungle
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really?

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damn

distant gyro
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example : PBG - Increases flight time, Ravager - Decreases flight time

vital jungle
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ah

distant gyro
vital jungle
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ty

proven tide
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basically
|——————that suggestion—————|
| |
———————| the whole point of lore items |————————>

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they're designed that way specifically for the player to have to weigh benefits and losses against proggressively-more-difficult inventory management

distant gyro
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I mean, a lore compendium similar to the 1.4 bestiary fashion wouldn't sound so bad

proven tide
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info-wise, not effect wise

distant gyro
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but if you include the fact that they actually give benefits then it's a clusterfuck

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exactly

proven tide
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plaguebringer vs. ravager items

opaque grail
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"oh no, I dont have enough inventory space with STILL most of my inventory, a piggy bank, a safe, and possibly other forms of modded inventory"

teal ibex
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this should be put on the donts doc

carmine stream
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don’t forget the defender’s forge slobbyjoy

hollow shell
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Giving Yorai's spell that advantage might be a bit weird considering it's very random to obtain

radiant meadow
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it'd make more sense for deific amulet and rampaart of the deities to give light level

sand umbra
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Actually yeah now that I think of it why don't the Deific Amulet and Rampart of Deities increase Abyss light level?

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They inherit the Jellyfish Necklace's bonus, and the Necklace does give Abyss light level.

radiant meadow
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storm weaver is getting fixed in the next hotfix @vocal grotto
shouldn't despawn; I believe skeletron is a vanilla behavior

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siren despawning though is just annoying ass

queen delta
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siren in general is an annoying ass*

vocal grotto
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I see. But the AI for vanilla bosses are almost certainly changed in BR. The despawn range can be too

radiant meadow
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skeletron isn't that bad at least

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it just wastes some time but it's not like he despawns at low healath

sand umbra
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But he does from time to time--

radiant meadow
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then you're doing something wrong if skeletron is despawning at low health

vocal grotto
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Edited to not include SW

sand umbra
vocal grotto
gloomy hazel
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If I had to make a suggestion that is related to
-Modern/futuristic technology
-Being able to function with a power source like an internal reactor or an engine
-Not being fantasy-like
-The use of science/chemicals rather than magic

What would be the first thing you'd think of? Just think of anything, maybe I'll try to find something related to it.

vocal grotto
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Before we continue, what exactly do you think the idea will do to improve the mod?

gloomy hazel
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If I don't have anything, I can't think of how it would improve the mod

zealous ridge
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honestly first thing i think of is Draedon and Exo stuff

gloomy hazel
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Eh, Exo stuff are in the don'ts

vocal grotto
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I think they mean weapons

zealous ridge
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yeah that’s fair

vocal grotto
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Because of the complexity of endgame weapons

zealous ridge
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But something exo themed isn’t nessecarily against the rules but I can see where the apprehension comes from

vocal grotto
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Post-Draedon furniture would sound interesting, but I imagine programming a power source would rather painful

zealous ridge
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if you want to be safer perhaps plague stuff.

gloomy hazel
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It doesn't need to be related to Exo stuff or Draedon

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or Plague stuff

vocal grotto
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Well, it's your idea

terse sundial
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post-SCal/Draedon furniture is an interesting idea

sand umbra
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Calamitous furniture. thonkang

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.

terse sundial
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it feels unlikely outside of trophies and music boxes though

sand umbra
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fuck that's actually a cool idea

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aaaa

vocal grotto
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I know Fab doesn't really like programming stuff like that tho

terse sundial
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Furniture is one of those things that is really neat, yet a pain for a lot of reasons

zealous ridge
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exo furniture sounds nice, I’m thinking of like an exo campfire that gives unique bonuses but that might just clutter arenas more

gloomy hazel
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what doesn't he like programming, furnitures?

vocal grotto
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Yeah. Tile coding can be a pain in the ass

gloomy hazel
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Ah, exo weapons, ok

terse sundial
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Code, sprites, putting it on the wiki is all not that fun

vocal grotto
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Because they're aesthetic and feel a bit like fluff, when he could be doing things like working on bugfixes, weapons, ect.

terse sundial
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yeah

zealous ridge
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Furniture sounds like something for more... fleshed out parts of the game

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post yharon doesn’t have that much content at this point

gloomy hazel
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I've already tried to suggest vehicle themed mounts, pilotable mechs, a Tesla Rifle, even a pet version of Neil Armstrong...

zealous ridge
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maybe when the new guys are introduced it would be more worth advising

sand umbra
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Post-ML in general is...

...lacking, to put it simply.

vocal grotto
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Eh, depends on what aspect tbh

zealous ridge
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I agree I feel like it needs more exploration

sand umbra
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It feels very. Blank.

vocal grotto
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yoyos

zenith hazel
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flails

civic pond
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flails

sand umbra
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Don't you get me started on yo-yos and flails post-ML--

zenith hazel
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only 2 flails because yes

civic pond
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both post devourer

gloomy hazel
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Repeaters?

civic pond
zealous ridge
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more post moon lord enemy and biome buffs would be cool

zenith hazel
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0 pretty sure

civic pond
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repeaters exist

left crest
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Yes repeaters

zenith hazel
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idk, not too familiar with repeaters

sand umbra
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There are 5 meaningful post-ML yo-yos and three of them are specifically post-Provi.

vocal grotto
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Eh, repeaters, bows, all the same to me

civic pond
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pretty much

left crest
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We need an exo repeater

karmic stone
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What if God said

civic pond
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no

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no we dont

left crest
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It makes sense

vocal grotto
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In the words of Roverdrive:
"Don't write suggestions just for the sake of writing suggestions

Make sure there is actually a reason to have what you're suggesting"

karmic stone
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Auric repeater

left crest
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funny

civic pond
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imagine reading pins

zenith hazel
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yup, 0 post-ml

zealous ridge
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Hmm interesting suggestion

civic pond
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repeaters are literally just bows

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but they look like guns

sand umbra
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Bowguns.

gloomy hazel
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Mmm, guns

sand umbra
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Gunbows.

civic pond
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pretty much

gloomy hazel
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me like boom boom shooty bang bangs

vocal grotto
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Bows

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that's it

sand umbra
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...fuck it, Bowgun sounds cooler.

karmic stone
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A pistol that shoots bows

civic pond
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Gunbow

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wtf

vocal grotto
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While we're at it, we don't have enough dart weapons

zealous ridge
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Nechw, that would actually be nice I think. Shinobi infiltrator could recieve it, since Valhalla technically has melee covered

civic pond
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exo blowgun

gloomy hazel
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Oh shit, indeed. There's literally almost no dart gun

hollow shell
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Pretty sure changing vanilla armors of a certain damage type into rogue is a Don't

white copper
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Yes that’s exactly what I’m thinking about

left crest
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Guys exo consumable rogue weapon

zealous ridge
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oh really.?

civic pond
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but these are like the most irrelevant subclasses of weapons

vocal grotto
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It's certainly possible, but ehhh

zealous ridge
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sorry didn’t see that

civic pond
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damn

hollow shell
zealous ridge
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mmmm I see

hollow shell
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I'll reword it to include equipment and not just weapons

vocal grotto
civic pond
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dont touch my vampire knives

zealous ridge
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alright I still like it but okay

left crest
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There are 2 vanilla armor sets that were changed to rogue already tho

zealous ridge
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fair point

left crest
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Obsidian and one other

white copper
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But armor is not weapon, right?

karmic stone
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Spartan Armor

hollow shell
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Because those armor sets had no type

karmic stone
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i think its called (??)

hollow shell
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Gladiator

karmic stone
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Gladiator*

zealous ridge
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I still agree rogue needs more armor diversity especially in hm but that’s kind of a different topic

hollow shell
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There's going to be a rogue expansion in the future

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so
don't worry

zealous ridge
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Yeah I remember hearing about that

gloomy hazel
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"Soon"

zealous ridge
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excited for that

white copper
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Me too

gloomy hazel
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well...when I hear "soon", I hear "don't expect it to come tomorrow"

zealous ridge
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yeah I think that’s a given

hollow shell
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Yeah of course it'll take time

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Many new weapons and armors and such are gonna take a bit to sprite and program

gloomy hazel
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I can sprite

zealous ridge
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stealth is getting reworked too I believe?

gloomy hazel
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remember my Prime Mech?

radiant meadow
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stealth is not a completed concept

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it will be expanded on in the future

gloomy hazel
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I can animate as well

zealous ridge
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fun

hollow shell
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(no offense Dovah but that mech could use a lot of improvement, especially to fit in Terraria/Calamity style)

gloomy hazel
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(Eh...I know, but I'm still learning)

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I don't sprite everyday, that's the problem

karmic stone
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Remember when stealth was like free 200%+ damage?

gloomy hazel
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nope

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Do you think the Perforators and Hive Mind should be moved to Hardmode?

karmic stone
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Reason?

hollow shell
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That's been suggested

gloomy hazel
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ah, okay

hollow shell
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I do agree to some extent, separating out the evil bosses
but
Fab disliked it

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for some good reason
because it'd require a fuckton of retesting

gloomy hazel
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mmh...they could be pre-mechanical bosses

hollow shell
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and reprogramming the bosses to fit better in hardmode

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@polar dock Gonna need you to elaborate

karmic stone
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Was it hard to rebalance Aureus and Deus so they could be fit for Post-Lunatic?

proven tide
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ooga

hollow shell
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Just Deus

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Aureus stayed

zenith hazel
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isn't it 1/1000000?

polar dock
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yea

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im editing it

karmic stone
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Oh

vocal grotto
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Aren't they supposed to alternate versions of the opposite evil boss? Like perforator -> EoW and HIV Mind -> BoC?

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To a loose extend anyway

gloomy hazel
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they are

proven tide
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hiv mind henkhenk

vocal grotto
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Yup

left crest
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Halibut cannon is op on purpose, dont think it’s getting a nerf

gloomy hazel
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I personally am more into the sci-fi stuff than the fantastic stuff, that's also why (as you might notice) I don't suggest melee weapons, armors, etc...

hollow shell
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The point of the item is the ridiculously low drop rate
If you happen to get it very early, congratz you can blaze through the game
but it's very hard to get early, very unlikely statistically

vocal grotto
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Well, why not make your own mod with those ideas?

gloomy hazel
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...

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I am not a modder and have no idea how to code

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I do sprites only

vocal grotto
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Then learn it! Coding is a wonderful skill to know

gloomy hazel
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I've tried, and it's impossible for me to get it into my head properly

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I swear

vocal grotto
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I personally learned it by looking at tutorials on the internet, books, and by experimenting myself. Once I got the basics down, I started to research my complex things, and still do

left crest
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do something other than modding first to learn the basics, then get into modding

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that’s how I learned

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(I mod minecraft)

gloomy hazel
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I'm just not made for coding, I don't have the motivation either

left crest
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and that’s fine

gloomy hazel
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All I can do is to make a sprite, suggest it with stats and reasons and hope that the public agrees

vocal grotto
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Neither did I. I had someone force me to do it, and that created the motivation to continue.

gloomy hazel
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I've been forced into it...it did not improve things, so I dropped the case

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I'm telling you, I don't have the motivation for it

vocal grotto
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Then be a spriter and hire coders

gloomy hazel
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I don't think it'd be a good idea to hire coders either...

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whatever, that's leading nowhere

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All I can do is to hope I can convince people to have more sci-fi stuff in Terraria, especially when it comes to pilotable mechs...but that'd be dreaming for someone like me.
I can't code, I don't want to either. I can do sprites of course but I don't want to put myself into troubles by hiring coders, mostly because I'm jobless.
Terraria's cool and all, there's guns, a Martian invasion, explosives, space-like stuff, even a Cyborg NPC, whatever. All of that, it gives a balance between the fantastic stuff and the modern to sci-fi stuff. But I always thought there was more fantastic than sci-fi, and I'd like to see it rebalanced.

radiant meadow
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moving perfs and hive mind to hardmode is something I absolutely disagree with

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there's like no place for them to go in progression

opaque grail
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They fit more being with the worm and brain

radiant meadow
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and the brain and perfs are closely connected lore wise I believe

vocal grotto
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Yeah, Perf parasites off the brain iirc

radiant meadow
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you kill the brain and perfs need more food

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they ain't got no time to waste HyperFailure

vocal grotto
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And they go, hey, that human looks yummy

queen sail
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“Unfortunately, their new host is you”
Small human at least 5 feet tall
Gigantic megaworms spanning several meters

civic pond
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unfortunate for them

queen sail
civic pond
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they gon starve

vocal grotto
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Just eat the crimson itself tbh

civic pond
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probably tastes like meat

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of some form

queen sail
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Terry needs to go fix that lore he made

vocal grotto
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Well, Crimson is the corpse of Cthulhu

queen sail
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But it’s also dirt and rocks

radiant meadow
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I don't know if eater and hive mind have any connection

vocal grotto
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Dunno tbh

queen sail
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Eater and hive mind are separate entities

queen delta
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eater is opposite from hive mind tbh

queen sail
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One’s a bigass devourer

queen delta
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eater is boring, dumb worm fight, and hive mind is amazing fun fight

queen sail
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The other is a bunch of corruption creatures forming a cluster

radiant meadow
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just like pretend eater is like king of the corruption or something and slaying it caused chaos in the order of the community making them form the hodge podge of whatever hive mind is HDfailure

vocal grotto
queen sail
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@queen delta maso eow

civic pond
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Diseased soup

vocal grotto
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Corruption is microbe from extinct species the end

civic pond
queen sail
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Eater of worlds

vocal grotto
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Check the Corruption lore item

queen sail
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More like

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Soul of Night farm

vocal grotto
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Eater of Whar

civic pond
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no its literally just a fat diseased fucking worm

queen sail
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But is it as fat of a fuck as it is in comparison to the dadvorerer of chads

civic pond
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ok first of all

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he has a WAY better diet

radiant meadow
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that is kinda what you're supposed to do

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cultist has a message that alerts you to deus

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atlas are like super buff so killing them should be noticable

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also if you pay attention, atlas get a buff post cultist

hollow shell
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"Astral titans have been imbued with the power of the Star God" ?

earnest raptor
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Also a variant.

queen sail
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I have to admit, the message is pretty vague

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Then again so is Plantera’s

hollow shell
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But Plantera creates glowing pink bulbs

queen sail
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You know where you’re supposed to go

hollow shell
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Atlas could at least like

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start

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glowing

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sparkling or somethin

queen sail
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But you don’t know how to summon the boss until you figure it out

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You find plantera’s bulb for plantera, you kill atlases for deus

earnest raptor
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With Plantera, it a lot more easier.

radiant meadow
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it's trial and error

earnest raptor
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Atlas is like doesn't have much connection with Deus.

signal prairie
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It's something that's... Interesting. Plus I can see some newer players seeing that message and going to check it out instead of brushing over deus

queen sail
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Tbh it should be something different than killing atlases

radiant meadow
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Atlases are kinda like the biome's miniboss

queen sail
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They are but sometimes you want a fucking whack stick instead of 10 astral god worms

radiant meadow
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titan arm is post aureus

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it's obsolete by the time you reach cultist

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also like if you beat Deus, you have to use the Starcore

earnest raptor
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Tbh it should be something different than killing atlases
Also an idea. Could be interesting idea after message from Lunatic Cultist see in Astral Infection a small worms, that after killing will summon a Deus.

queen sail
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Maybe something like the martian probe

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But definitely much less rare lmao

radiant meadow
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like ??? maybe?

queen sail
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An enemy that spawns and, when you kill it, flies into the sky

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Then deus spawns

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Having a new post cultist astral enemy that stands out would be much less vague than killing 3 atlases

proven tide
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and self-star

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@hollow shell my unprofessional and distracted ass ain't prepared for this, please save me

hollow shell
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That is an interesting suggestion

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Honestly, fair enough

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(I don't know enough about Gilded Proboscis or DoG to judge whether his claim is legit or not)

sleek furnace
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i did it earlier, its legit

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bloodflare armor + GP, you just dive into DoG and heal 200~ per second

hollow shell
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I see.
GP heals 1 every hit (it hits every frame), Bloodflare melee heals 1 to 3 every hit
2 to 4 per frame, let's average to 3
60 frames per second
3 * 60 = 180 health healed every second

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Checks out.

zealous ridge
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I dont know if it has to be a rare version of itself, but I think it may be in for some kind of nerf

sleek furnace
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i think the easier nerf would be to reduce how many times bloodflare can trigger in X seconds

zealous ridge
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maybe gilded doesn’t hit every frame? That might help too

hollow shell
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There exists a lifesteal cooldown in Terraria's code, but both GP and Bloodflare melee bypass it.

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It'd probably fix the issue to make at least one of them obey the cooldown

zealous ridge
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Yeah that might be good

formal prism
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the Proboscis? it used to be a viable(and very risky) DoG killing weapon, being able to heal almost 200 HP by getting the full thrust off of just one segment is a great utility, that isn't even considering hitting multiple segments.

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now it just doesn't do enough damage, i only use it for the healing utility.

queen delta
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cough Elemental Axes cough

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I guess thats one of the reasons its my favorite summon weapon

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cuz its the one that actually tries the hardest

gilded badger
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i think almost all calamity summons do it

queen delta
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some

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some others are just lazy fucks that always stay close to you slobbyjoy

gilded badger
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any examples?

queen delta
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anything tempest staff, almost anything phm, mechworm

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these are some summons i can name off the top of my head

gilded badger
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the clouds literally dont move but ill take mechworm

queen delta
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i mean mechworm is mega dum, but makes up for it with sheer strength

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when the mechworm is actually on top of an enemy or boss, that said enemy will melt

gilded badger
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mechworm is a dumbass but at least it doesnt endlessly fly to the left

ashen warren
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@ashen warren they were made tediously annoying to dodge iirc

unique vector
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if you dont shoot them they wont fly at mach speed towards you

queen delta
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Yeah but they get in your way

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So basically... theyre definitely bound to be hit

unique vector
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they also get destroyed on tiles

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use that to your advantage

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most else say aureus is fairly easy so Shrug

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im kinda finnicky about it

queen delta
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Aureus is easy, but man are the spawns so annoying

plush knot
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ok who made the remove sentinels from DoG fight entirely

queen delta
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Fina iirc

plush knot
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well i dont see that as a good suggestion

unique vector
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they are removed when you first kill him

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to make farming easier

plush knot
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the first battle should be intense

unique vector
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the first battle does have sentinels

plush knot
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tbh i prefer it when the sentinels are part of the DoG fight because they atleast drop hearts

unique vector
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sentinels ARE in dogs fight still

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just not after killing him the first time

plush knot
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i ment them being there even after the first kill

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*meant

unique vector
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they dont do that anymore to make farming faster

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and makes it so that the wow factor of seeing the sentinels doesnt become stale

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why is this a suggestions convo?

plush knot
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dunno

unique vector
plush knot
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anyways i dont see the suggestion of removing sentinels all together from the fight as a good thing

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im just gonna read more suggestions now

queen delta
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I think there was already a discussion about that

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And you dont rly need hearts once you already obtained post DoG gear

worthy fiber
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@ashen warren You just gotta lead them into the ground, that's how you beat them

tired haven
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@signal prairie postML bosses already reduce effect of ichor greatly, so there is no real need for that change

mental path
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"ichor is good nerf it but make a stronger variant" thonk

smoky wagon
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Nerf gilded proboscis

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You realize banshee hook can “cheese” DoG better

radiant meadow
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gilded itself without bloodflare cannot heal off doggo's body segments

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gilded checks for canghostheal whereas I believe bloodflare true melee strikes does not

tired haven
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I mean, the fact proboscis is probably first no iframes weapon at this point makes it fairly good with bloodflare

smoky wagon
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Banshee hook also ignores iframes

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but idk if the healing from gilded would let you actually tank

civic pond
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The only thing that let me tank devourer was the old mutilator

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i tried proboscis

frail mantle
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I don’t really see why Ichor should be nerfed

civic pond
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it shouldn't

radiant meadow
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ichor nerf would require like a rebalance of all hardmode and pml weapons

queen sail
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“Nerf Ichor”
“Make a new and upgraded version specifically for post ml”
thonk

echo horizon
zealous ridge
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cursed inferno affects bosses the same way so why leave it out?

civic pond
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wh

echo horizon
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with dr, yes but its reduced dr compared to ichor

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cursed inferno is already "balanced" smugyon

queen sail
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Tbh cursed inferno being inferior to ichor in vanilla is a vanilla issue

zealous ridge
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I believe cursed inferno also decreases the dr the same as normal on post ml bosses

queen sail
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Dunno how big the brains of the balancing team at relogic are, but

zealous ridge
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It’s a 5% reduction as stated on the wiki

radiant meadow
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that's only for prov and yharon

zealous ridge
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oh really? hmm interesting

radiant meadow
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polter and scal a different reduced effect and ichor is superior to cursed inferno

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doggo is immune to both CompleteFailure

zealous ridge
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nice

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well okay thank you

radiant meadow
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it's all listed on their wiki pages

zealous ridge
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guess I just didn’t bother to read through polterghasts and scals smugyon kind of just assumed thy had the same effect

neon birch
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what's the point of nerfing it if to not affect post ML bosses if u just want to add another debuff that does affect them

tired haven
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So people cannot just use everglade/golden gun/ichor flask for it ig

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But like, that's not quite healthy decision imho, some items should be viable throughtout the game

zenith hazel
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halibut 👀

civic pond
tired haven
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Viable, not gamebreaking lol

crystal osprey
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Heart rapier can kinda tank DoG still

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Just gotta be smart about it

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Although it would deal shit damage against him

smoky wagon
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but it cant because you cant lifesteal from body segments

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and even then the contact dmg is too high to facetank

zealous ridge
#

proper spacing may allow players to literally face tank every other attack

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and it also wasn’t specified what mode this player was on

smoky wagon
#

“every other attack”

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DoG doesnt have many attacks

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it rams you and has lasers

zealous ridge
#

that’s fair, he gets more attacks second phase though, even though I’m sure you know that

hollow shell
#

@ashen warren They were CompleteFailure

frail mantle
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tbh Aureus Spawns aren't that bad to dodge if you know how

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you've just gotta trick them into slamming into the ground

foggy kindle
#

yeah

zealous ridge
#

I treat it like dodging radiance’s light orbs

foggy kindle
#

Not many played HK though, but yes, dodge them like Radiance's orbs

ivory heart
#

Make it so that the Hive Mind / Perforator Cysts will only spawn in the underground corruption / crimson before EoW/BoC is defeated.
Why: If you make an arena for EoW or BoC, you usually stay in the same area of the arena, and if a cyst happens to spawn in the arena, then good luck not shooting it or not dying to the Hive Mind while fighting the EoW, especially since both are quite tanky and you will likely be trying shooting the boss a lot.

hollow shell
#

You can just walk away then walk back and it'll be gone

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Annoying to do if it happens to you a few times but it's not that big a deal

hollow shell
#

@mossy light Why not just have the wiki open?

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The wiki has a search bar

mossy light
#

what if you got loads of tabs open

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literally click twice

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\type something in

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then you're instantly in the page

hollow shell
#

New window for the wiki.

mossy light
#

then i have to type more

frail mantle
#

is it really necessary though

hollow shell
#

No I mean like you always have a window open for the wiki

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Separate from your hundreds of tabs

frail mantle
hollow shell
#

Or that.

mossy light
#

more clicking

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the whole purpose is for it to be super simple and super fast

hollow idol
mossy light
#

lets say you're in a very dangerous biome

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you find an item

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quickly wiki

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back to the game

hollow shell
#

Bruh just look it up later

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You shouldn't be alt tabbing if you're in any kind of dangerous situation

hollow idol
#

you do realize pausing is a thing

frail mantle
#

^

hollow shell
#

Autopause is indeed a thing

frail mantle
#

also the game autopauses when you switch tabs

hollow shell
#

ah

hollow idol
#

except multiplayer

hollow shell
#

Forgot about that

mossy light
#

yes

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and im always in multiplayer

queen delta
#

in multiplayer, you have the in game steam overlay which sucks and is likely to glitch out as soon as u open a page to look into the wiki ingame

mossy light
#

that steam overlay has cursed me way to many times

civic pond
#

whats so wrong with bookmarking

queen delta
#

it just gets even more buggier every steam update

hollow shell
#

Havin a separate window open for the wiki is the same amount of clicks as having this extension
The click you use to open the extension is the click that you use to select the window

hollow idol
#

imagine being so lazy that a few clicks matter

hollow shell
#

mhm

radiant meadow
#

This seems like a lot of unnecessary work to add to the mod

hollow shell
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Well it's not adding to the mod, it's a browser extension

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unless you meant like
to the mod dev team

radiant meadow
#

Still seems like unnecessary work regardless

hollow idol
#

it being in game sounds less useless but still ech

mossy light
#

wait

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i literally just realised

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that suggestion is fucking pointless

hollow shell
#

👀

civic pond
#

Thats a first..

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👀

foggy kindle
#

:zoomeyes:

distant gyro
#

@bronze mauve wdym thonk

queen delta
ashen warren
#

😰

bronze mauve
#

yeah

hollow shell
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It breaks into 4, not 1

bronze mauve
#

wtf you mean, i never said it breaks into one

distant gyro
#

it's supposed to break into multiple after reaching certain airtime

hollow shell
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"Make crystalline shoot out 5 copies instead of 1"

bronze mauve
#

YOU RIGHT

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my bad

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fixed

hollow shell
#

ok cool

zenith hazel
#

in other words, buff crystalline?

smoky wagon
#

i think he means that it should be 5 in a fixed even pattern

hollow shell
#

very bad typo there

bronze mauve
#

yes

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guwa is correct

smoky wagon
#

instead of the uneven pattern it currently has

radiant meadow
#

Like a star?

smoky wagon
#

yeah

queen sail
#

I mean tbh

smoky wagon
#

i kinda agree it would look cooler

queen sail
#

It’s very ocd inducing

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Like it could be even but why

ashen warren
#

Perhaps edit your suggestion towards what you really mean

queen sail
#

Why does that one space have to be even

bronze mauve
#

idk what you mean by that

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it bothers people because it only shoots one out the back instead of two

frail mantle
#

i like the Crystalline's current spread pattern because you can hit enemies behind corners

distant gyro
#

yea

hollow shell
#

He's saying the current spread should still exist

bronze mauve
#

i never said change the pattern

zealous ridge
#

star shape may still allow that

bronze mauve
#

just add another one that shoots backwards

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so it has a star shape

hollow shell
#

Just that one extra dagger should fire symmetrically to the other backward dagger

frail mantle
#

ah

distant gyro
queen sail
#

It’s always bugged me ngl

hollow shell
#

That you could clarify in the suggestion, Schmiggle.

queen sail
#

I never said anything though bc uh

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Thought it was a balance thing or something

smoky wagon
#

Crystalline is an old item

distant gyro
#

I still don't know what it means CompleteFailure

smoky wagon
#

Its not that hard

distant gyro
#

The knife itself doesn't even break in the first place, it produces 3 more copies

hollow shell
smoky wagon
#

Then make it produce 4 copies

hollow shell
#

blue part would be a new dagger

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red is the trajectory of throw

bronze mauve
#

yes exactly

distant gyro
#

with gravity in mind though

bronze mauve
#

can i use that image

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and put it in the suggestion

smoky wagon
#

Gravity pain

distant gyro
#

it'll just look like an uneven flower

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when it all falls

bronze mauve
#

nah altix

hollow shell
#

It's already very uneven

bronze mauve
#

the copies don't have bullet drop

queen sail
#

As if it doesn’t already

bronze mauve
#

they fly straight

hollow shell
#

so it's less big

queen sail
#

Jpeg quality

hollow shell
#

(via editing the post)

bronze mauve
#

mkay

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editted

hollow shell
#

Nice.

bronze mauve
#

lit

lost agate
#

Is someone else seeing 2 pics and one of them having an old af date?

#

Or is discord dying that badly?

radiant meadow
#

I think Discord had a really bad hiccup

zealous ridge
#

I think your discord is dying

lost agate
#

Thats one big ass hiccup

queen sail
#

What

terse sundial
#

I don't see it, but discord is infact dying

queen sail
#

Bruh get an iphone

civic pond
#

uh

distant gyro
#

dead discord momentum

queen sail
zealous ridge
#

1969 bruh

cyan lagoon
#

Psst shucks

#

Check the secret channels

lost agate
#

(oh)

cyan lagoon
#

Beaten to it twice

lost agate
zenith hazel
#

it got changed recently in the new update

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you can now get stardisk and stellar knife post-aureus since deus got moved to post-cultist

smoky wagon
#

updooting hard

distant gyro
#

@unique vine lol oudated

terse sundial
#

the latest live version is what we update the wiki to

unique vine
#

Yeah I was farming for hours for the stellar knife, the I killed deus then I got it on the first kill of an Aries lol

hollow shell
#

Yeah you're outdated

frail mantle
#

idea: Armageddon clears all projectiles upon the player's death

placid girder
#

That sounds good tbh

distant gyro
#

@frail mantle clear all boss enemies too while you're at it

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Aureus Spawn

zenith hazel
#

those molten globs from provi are just... pain

void kelp
#

Slime God’s mines

civic pond
#

astrum deus

opaque grail
#

@unique vine thats a bug, hes supposed to be required for it

hollow shell
#

or he's outdated

radiant meadow
#

I think he knows he's outdated already

#

I'll delete the suggestion to prevent further confusion

signal prairie
#

People fail to realise that the only Post-ML bosses that Ichor is useless against is CV and DoG. Every other Post-ML boss is not immune to ichor

radiant meadow
#

that's intentional

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those bosses are specifically made not immune to ichor

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and weapons are balanced around that

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storm weaver p2, signus, and bumblebirb don't even have dr so they are just affected with a simple defense drop

signal prairie
#

I feel that it's a bit too op tho. You can get it at the start of hardmode, and use it for the rest of the game. Plus, balancing out Ichor is opening up the gates for a potential upgraded Ichor-inflicting weapon that will work on the Post-ML bosses.

radiant meadow
#

it would require us to rebalance like all of hardmode and post moon lord

signal prairie
#

Not really, I've tested it and most bosses are just as difficult even without Ichor use. Some are even made easier without Ichor use. Rebalancing would not be necessary.

radiant meadow
#

so what you're saying is that Ichor is pointless and that nerfing it would do nothing

signal prairie
#

It's not pointless at all. It simply makes bosses way easier. Ichor was made as a utility tool more than a weapon. The amount of bosses ichor works on is simply absurd, making it op.

radiant meadow
#

"Some are even made easier without Ichor use"

hollow shell
#

what were you just saying then

void kelp
#

I’m kinda confused by what franswal means

radiant meadow
#

you're implying with that statement that Ichor is a waste of time and doesn't do anything of importance

signal prairie
#

"Some are even made easier without Ichor use" Destroyer, because you can focus on one weapon to get more consistent DPS. First part of Deus, too many worms, can't focus you attention on only one worm. Pbg, honestly who's going to continously use Ichor when they are trying to dodge a million and a half things. These are the bosses that are easier without Ichor use

hollow shell
#

Does that not go against your claim that Ichor is OP and needs nerfing?

signal prairie
#

Those are the only ones that are easier without ichor use

hollow shell
#

Why did you bring them up

radiant meadow
#

perhaps because they're immune to ichor

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nobody would use ichor against them in the first place because it doesn't affect them

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oh and ichor is worth it for pbg imo I guess

hollow shell
#

Only Destroyer is immune to it in the ones he listed

radiant meadow
#

deus is immune to ichor, isn't he?

signal prairie
#

Ichor can double my average dps with a weapon

radiant meadow
#

afaik deus is immune to all debuffs

hollow shell
#

Ah, indeed

#

Anyway
You brought them up when Termi said there would need to be rebalancing

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There would definitely need to be rebalancing on the bosses where it's worth it to use Ichor, eh?

signal prairie
#

Destroyer and Deus are not immune to Ichor, I've tested this

hollow shell
#

They are, actually.

radiant meadow
#

did you test outside of boss rush?

signal prairie
#

Yes, I get more DPS and they change color when I use it

radiant meadow
#

the code states that they are immune to all debuffs, both of them
with the exception of boss rush

signal prairie
#

That might be my fault actually. Since I buff certain bosses hps because I like their fight.

neon birch
#

maybe make a non consumable version

#

like providence ye

hollow shell
#

Better idea
Because of the usefulness of Ravager in terms of his item drops, I feel like his summoning item should still come at some cost.
Instead, make BOHLDOHR drop Lihzahrd Bricks

queen sail
#

Bohldohr doesn’t spawn that often though

hollow saffron
#

imagine buffing the fight

#

uh\

queen sail
#

Bruh literally where did he say buff

hollow shell
#

Make it drop a lot of bricks :P

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He's talkin about Hec's

queen sail
#

Also why is it still in caps

hollow saffron
queen sail
#

Oh that

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Damn the pain of mobile

hollow saffron
#

also if future bosses are gonna be added to the rush then why bother

teal ibex
#

why should the addition of bosses after the devourer of gods be reasoning for him to not scale poorly

queen delta
#

i feel like once draedon comes out, there should be a revote for BR with draedon included

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since all the changes by then would probably change the general's opinions

teal ibex
#

probably not wrong

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though it'd be a bit weird if yharim wasn't the finale

queen delta
#

astrum aureus was in the bottom cuz it was astrageldon in the polls HDFailure

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ye yharim can be the finale

spiral olive
#

they were added in the same patch GWaobaPePeCry

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poor aureus got shafted

queen delta
#

while my baby duke fishron deserved to be higher in the list PensiveYEET

teal ibex
#

tbf duke, despite not being very high, is like

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kinda spook

queen delta
#

duke is fun, no matter how simple he is compared to other bosses

hollow shell
#

Duke is simple?

queen delta
#

all he does is dash, shoot bubbles, and spawn sharknados

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and in p3, he teleport dashes, which is easily predictable since he always cycles between 1-2-3... dashes

teal ibex
#

it took me like... a year to realize that

hollow shell
#

Hm.
I need to practice him more I guess sweating

spiral olive
#

compared to other vanilla bosses duke is on the more complex side, but he's still pretty easy to memorize

queen delta
#

i make it my mission to make my nohits have p3 last very long

devout seal
#

Bohldohr should only drop lihzahrd bricks post-golem if he does.
because if he's made to drop them when you can find them, then that means you can get chaotic stuff just after plantera if you're able to kill ravager.

ivory heart
#

Server suggestion: # worldseeds channel.
Share good world seeds and check them out yourself!

radiant meadow
#

that doesn't sound like it'd be suited for this server

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it sounds like something that would be added to the Terraria server instead

ivory heart
#

Then again there’s no suggestions channel there

ivory heart
#

New dyes.
Brimstone Dye: Strange Plant quest after Calamitas has been defeated. Glow-in-the-dark, light red, flaming.
Astral Dye: Strange Plant quest after Astrum Aureus has been defeated. Gray, teal sparkles, orange sparkles.
Elemental Dye: 5 Bottled Water, 1 Solar Fragment, 1 Vortex Fragment, 1 Nebula Fragment, 1 Stardust Fragment. Fade from orange to teal to magenta to cyan, white sparkles.
Tyrant Dye: 5 Bottled Water, 1 Yharon Soul Fragment. Orange, flaming, after-image.
Why: In terms of vanity sets, this mod does a good job at them, but new dyes is definitely missing. This could make new sets possible and especially for players to look the way they want to.

hollow shell
#

Calamity dyes have been suggested a few times

ivory heart
#

New dyes never get old.

hollow shell
#

But they do get bluechecked :P

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Which is fine

#

shows the devs the demand

ivory heart
#

I predicted it

radiant meadow
#

@vague trellis suggesting new bosses is not allowed

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and please discuss in here

loud steeple
#

what did slimy suggest?

queen delta
#

from what termi said, a new boss

loud steeple
#

well i wanted to know what he still suggested

#

it might be bad enough to give me a chuckle

radiant meadow
#

"I think you should add bosses that are for different play throughs like a boss for people doing a rouge play though"

queen delta
#

uh, im pretty sure they would if they could...

terse sundial
#

When the bugfix release updates, it will be TML v0.11 compatible. Then it will be able to go onto the mod browser.

proven tide
#

haha stelfsar

terse sundial
#

main reason why it isn't on there rn is because of TML v0.11

echo horizon
#

its ok, not so bad but ehh you can check in 2 seconds

frail mantle
#

activating Rev, Death and Arma already do send chat messages though

hot marsh
#

I mean

echo horizon
#

he means if you cant remember if you activated it or not

hot marsh
#

I activate it for farming

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but after that I forget

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And when I go to kill the next boss in progression

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waste a summoner because I'm dumb

quiet abyss
#

If you cant remember whether you have a mode on or not, you can always just check

hot marsh
#

But a little icon or text in the bottom would be nice

quiet abyss
#

Aight, that’s fair

frail mantle
#

Yharim isn't even in the mod in any form currently thonk

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and SCal isn't a town NPC

bitter drift
#

is scal an NPC?

queen delta
frail mantle
#

SCal is an NPC, but not a town NPC

bitter drift
#

k

queen delta
#

Why even... suggest something based on a currently nonexistent thing

neon birch
#

tf

faint needle
#

I mean, is SCal even confirmed to ever be a town NPC?

#

i can see yharim but scal?

frail mantle
#

she will be a town NPC Eventually™

faint needle
#

oh didnt know

hollow idol
#

isnt a "suggestion dont" to not suggest things for unimplemented features a thing

frail mantle
#

i think so yea

sacred thorn
#

Hmmmthonk

worthy fiber
#

Yharim will be a town npc until you kill yharon, from the last thing I’ve heard

opaque grail
#

starring arcana's suggest cuz its pointless

worthy fiber
warm tinsel
#

So guys, I noticed The Underworld Abyss has gotten past 140 stars, will it be taken in consideration? I love that idea and I would love to see it ingame

frail mantle
#

Which one

warm tinsel
#

The one post-scal

#

Wait

#

The one saying Layer 5, 6 and 7

frail mantle
#

Does it have a check mark

warm tinsel
#

Yes

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The green one

#

But usually that doesn't actually mean it's in

frail mantle
#

If it has the check mark, it’s been sent in to the dev server

warm tinsel
#

Then let's hope for it

#

It's a big suggestion, but it's perfect to me

tired haven
#

@magic verge you.. know that's how vanilla handles things, right?
Changing it for the sake of changing isn't really welcome

#

Besides, tier is purely cosmetic rn

ashen warren
#

well calamity should do it anyway

#

that's what mods are for right

#

:^)))

tired haven
placid moth
#

Excuse me why are we changing prefixes again

magic verge
#

its not changing for the change of changing, its changing for literally giving a purpose to a useless feature

#

right now rarity is neither a rarity indicator neither a tiering or progression indicator

#

its literally a pointless pretty color

radiant meadow
#

changing that vanilla mechanic seems like more work than for what it's worth tbh

#

Calamity's custom rarities post moon lord do not change based on modifier though afaik

magic verge
#

idk, a feature thats present through the whole game from the moment you start it and can serve as a useful help as an indicator to which items are better with a quick look seems like a worthy thing to fix for me

signal prairie
#

DoG already moves at light speeds to catch up and pass you slobbyjoy

void kelp
#

it does sound unnecessary

frail mantle
#

so i'm thinking of a new Yoyo accessory and i'm wondering when in progression it should be put

#

i was thinking right after ML because iirc yoyos were bad against Prov

void kelp
#

oh you should maybe ask thomas since he’s doing the DAY run

radiant meadow
#

I don't think a new accessory will help the Terrarian be not bad against Prov

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and it will overpower other yoyos like lacerator and azathoth down the line

frail mantle
#

hmm

#

when should it be put then

rustic ember
#

Pre - HM maybe

#

But that might just overpower those yoyos

wild cairn
#

I like all the suggestions that are just "nerf x boss because it's too hard in death mode"

#

maybe you shouldn't have picked death mode

frail mantle
#

which ones

#

the ones from yatagarasu?

vague trellis
#

Hello!

#

Or not?

worthy fiber
#

Wrong channel to say hello daryl

lost agate
#

Hello willow smug

worthy fiber
#

..,

queen sail
#

The ones from yata are mostly rebalances/reduxes to make the fights either more fair or interesting

elder mist
#

And also, just because it's deathmode doesn't stop it from being bullshit unfair.

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Which some bosses, like siren and levi, are.

plucky matrix
#

^

full bramble
#

I fear no man, but that thing
siren deathmode
it scares me

elder mist
#

Maybe play death mode before commenting on "maybe you shouldn't have picked death mode" and experience it yourself.

smoky wagon
#

Siren and levi need some minor tweaks

#

the clone probably needs to be nerfed or atleast not spawn until later in the fight

elder mist
#

Siren herself is the problem.

smoky wagon
#

siren itself could have the ice mists slowed down

full bramble
#

the ice mists are what usually cuck me the most

smoky wagon
#

i find only the ice mists to be problematic from the siren itself

#

everything else is fine

full bramble
#

leviathan is usually rod of discord timing, not bad

#

but sometimes those little spears and the mists will just cowabunga you

smoky wagon
#

leviathan’s charges are fine if it doesnt start them 10 blocks away from you

plucky matrix
#

That's another thing, you shouldn't have to rely on rod teleportation just to Dodge an attack

full bramble
#

THIS

smoky wagon
#

DoG slobbyjoy

elder mist
#

You can do DoG without rod just fine.

smoky wagon
#

Im sure you can

elder mist
#

I did just yesterday, actually.

smoky wagon
#

just seems like you put yourself at the mercy of worm AI

full bramble
#

it may take a bit to adjust to a bad laser wall followed by the vertical one

smoky wagon
#

Im not talking about laser walls

elder mist
#

No not really, if you know how his AI works grounded phase should never hit you with the head.

smoky wagon
#

im thinking of when it wraps itself around you

#

mainly

full bramble
#

I've never had him wrap me

smoky wagon
elder mist
#

If he wraps you then you did something wrong beforehand, yes.

smoky wagon
#

i follow the same pattern for all of p2 and it happened once

worthy fiber
#

@supple lodge Not happenin'

#

Deathmode won't get any more exclusive items

frail mantle
#

also i think i remember one of the devs saying Armageddon won't get any exclusive items

#

don't quote me on that though

radiant meadow
#

There likely won't

#

Exception might be a patron's request

supple lodge
#

welp

crystal osprey
#

Counter scarf is really fuckin good for wrapping

full bramble
#

I remember there being a suggestion for sound changes for SCal a bit ago

ivory heart
#

Visual suggestion: make the Auric Tesla Armor look more like an Exo Armor.

frail mantle
#

why

#

actually that sounds interesting i might try spriting that

#

but still why

crystal osprey
#

Alternatively

#

Make exoweapons look like auric

#

Since auric looks like auric ore and it seems consistent

radiant meadow
#

there is a separate auric and exo palette

#

are you saying items of that tier should only use one of those palettes?

queen delta
#

Im pretty sure those that are auric will be pre draedon while exo is post draedon

#

iirc

hollow shell
#

That doesn't seem right

queen sail
#

Auric is yharim themed stuff, but draedon’s (weaker than yharim) stuff is stronger?

hollow shell
#

Well Draedon made all of Yharim's shit

#

Auric Tesla armor and the Exo weapons are both Draedon's creations

queen sail
#

Then put them in the same tier

hollow shell
#

yeah

ivory heart
#

I somewhat (?) predicted that my suggestion on new dyes for Calamity would get marked with ☑ and I was correct

frail mantle
#

ok

zealous ridge
#

still like the suggestion tho

hollow shell
#

Bruh I told you that it would

#

You didn't predict shit

zealous ridge
ivory heart
#

Meltdown Bomb (Post-Golem consumable classless Explosive)
Crafted using 15 Plague Cell Canisters, 5 Torches, 5 Explosive Powder, 5 Cores of Chaos, and 3 Wire. Crafts 5.
When used, it shoots a glowing projectile affected by gravity. After a few seconds, it explodes, dealing high damage to everything in a certain radius, including you, if you get caught in the blast. Survivors are inflicted with Plague for 5 seconds.
The weapon has a use time of 72, or just over a second, making it the slowest weapon in the game. However, it compensates with heavy firepower.
Why: Besides the Plaguenade, there aren’t any explosive plague weapons, and I feel that a weapon like this would fit the theme a lot. Otherwise, it’s a way to cause heavy destruction without physical damage to builds.

civic pond
#

isn't plaguenade enough though

frail mantle
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slowest Calamity weapon
laughs in Infinity

radiant meadow
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handheld tank and norfleet are still slower

ivory heart
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Maybe I could tweak the speed

radiant meadow
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and the Hive could count as an explosive plague weapon

ivory heart
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ok

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Does it deserve the suggestions channel

frail mantle
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not really sure whether it's needed

zenith hazel
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this will totally not be broken for deus at all

finite olive
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Not gonna post it in suggestions, but god does astrum aureus grunt way to much when getting hit...

teal ibex
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it's a good thing you didn't post it

finite olive
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I see, good to know they're going to change it

full bramble
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do I have to dm you yata GWeniSadNeko

tired haven
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inb4 closed dms :^)

zenith hazel
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I don't feel like forcing players to have an adamantite/titanium pick is too good

plucky matrix
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Farming is boring so yes

radiant meadow
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funny thing is that you can blow up all of Calamity's modded ores after you beat certain bosses

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Cryonic is far from the minority

tired haven
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Wait, you can blow up those ores? Whaaa

radiant meadow
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aerialite - hive/perfs
cryonic - cryogen
charred - plantera (I think)
perennial - plantera
chaotic - golem
uelibloom - moon lord (idk why it's not prov but doesn't matter anyways)
auric - yharon (I think)

hollow shell
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So you don't actually need to make any of the new pickaxes cuz none of them are immune to explosives

zenith hazel
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so if you have like a ton of cash money, you can blow all these up without having to make a pick HDfailure

hollow shell
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Also Uelibloom is because it used to always exist in the world but only be minable with a Gallant Pickaxe, which is post-ML

plucky matrix
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Though tbh getting a pick is more convenient in combination with veinminer or so

devout seal
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wait
so, once you get the ability to get cryonic ore
you can blow it up?
so, there's no need for a titanium pickaxe?

hollow shell
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No need.

tired haven
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Geez

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What a trick

queen sail
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Don’t we just need fish in general

smoky wagon
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Fish for new biomes

white copper
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Each of biome has some unique fish

smoky wagon
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maybe they could be used as alternate ingredients for astral injection/gravity normalizer

white copper
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I think give astral biome a new fish will be great

smoky wagon
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or they could be used to craft aureus cells but be locked behind beating the boss

ashen warren
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giant astral fish lol

smoky wagon
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I agree with the suggestion but maybe make it also take galactica singularities

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so it isnt too easy to make

knotty current
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just changed it

radiant meadow
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astrum deus is not meant to be summoned with a starcore before you defeat him though

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once you defeat him once, you're supposed to make the starcore then for subsequent attempts

smoky wagon
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polterghast lets you make a summon item if you grind for a little bit

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I dont see why deus couldnt be the same

radiant meadow
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you could completely avoid fighting deus at all pretty easily if you choose to make galactic singularities

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polterghast is kinda a mandatory summon if you want to make his summon item unless you like hunt underground for phanatom debris

hollow saffron
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^

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maybe pull a polterghast and have deus spaen after x amounts of astral biome enemies are killed

smoky wagon
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you dont have to fight polter to make his summon

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you can just teleport away

hollow saffron
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teru

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doesnt that not work on deus or smth

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i forgot

sand umbra
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I just think it's awkward that it's Atlases specifically that need to be systematically exterminated, given that big/tanky enemies as normal fodder aren't exactly unheard of in Calamity.

zealous ridge
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Um art server go there sir

ashen warren
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mk lol

zealous ridge
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okay so, I really like that idea ruffles, I do feel that post moon lord needs some more unique content in the form of the moon events
I’ve had a similar idea where the moon events (minus darksun) would be replaced with new ones, that tie into lore with DoG so that connection would make more sense

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but I enjoy that suggestionDankEyes

smoky wagon
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i feel like they should get something entirely new and seperate from vanilla events

lavish cloak
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I see where you’re going with that, and agree as well! I do kinda feel that Giant Santa Robots and Fire-Puking Trees dont mesh well with a worm that had the power to tear through space time and kill the strongest of beings.

zealous ridge
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my idea is to like make them sectors of Yharims forces, the pumpkin moon event would be replaced with a nightmare fuel weaver that’s able to create like nightmare puppets and the frost moon event would be a forbidden sect of dark ice mages with a female archmage as its leader

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but yeah

lavish cloak
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Oooh that’s cool sounding!! Just to have it fit in with the theming of Post-ML Calamity!

zealous ridge
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mhm I would post it but it’s probably too long to be easily digestible, probably fit on a google doc

zealous ridge
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Alright, so Ranger kind of has like, 1 weapon post-darksun, the Onyxia (aside from chicken cannon and dragon’s breath), and although that’s cool and all, I think there should be some more. Today I suggest a new bow that would act as an upgrade to the Phantom Phoenix, a weapon I think needs some love (even if the DD2 items are kind of overlooked)

Thunderbird
Upgrade to the Phantom Phoenix
Crafted with Phantom Phoenix, Darksun Fragments, Endothermic Energy
This bow fires a burst of 5 arrows, in a tight spread similar to the Phantom Phoenix. Alongside these arrows, a single Thunderbird projectile is fired, moving significantly faster, homing in on enemies, and dashing through the same or groups of enemies multiple times. Every time the Thunderbird hits, a bolt of lighting strikes the first hit enemy. The bow also fires in a three shot ‘burst’, launching three volleys and three thunderbirds with each attack. Consumes 3 arrows.

Opening up ranger choices for post-darksun can allow for some more leniency for the class, as well as give a cool vanilla weapon a Calamity Overhaul.

drawing is simply a concept for what the weapon would look like. Spriters are free to make their own.

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Alright got another weapon suggestion, this time for a class that could use some more post darksun weapons I feel.
how does he look

hollow shell
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Oh Trashbox
I pray for your continued English fluency

devout seal
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Someone add a ☑ to the more enemies for the frost/pumpkin moon thing

earnest raptor
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@hollow shell
?

hollow shell
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(Your grammar could be better. It's a bit hard to read.)

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Also I'm not sure of that frost/pumpkin moon thing actually got sent in before
I know it's a popular idea but I can't actually find a sent one matching it

devout seal
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Because it was in #sprites-needed

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and is still planned.

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I've got WIPs, as-well.
just need to finish em and send em in for animation/cleanup.

hollow shell
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Mhm

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Wasn't suggested though, so
no bluecheck

devout seal
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Alright.

hollow shell
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It'll get a flag in the future and every one will think it was his idea HDfailure

devout seal
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Well it wasn't my idea either.

earnest raptor
queen delta
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I find both to be pretty balanced

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Sure, hive mind has a lot of hp for phm, but its more of an endurance fight while perfs is a hectic one

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without a good arena, 3 large worms are scary

zealous ridge
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yeah I think constantly dodging the perf rain projectiles is a bit stressful because he never lets up

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which adds to the hecticness

earnest raptor
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Hive's rain is more badHDhurdur

zealous ridge
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it’s slightly annoying but you can atleast walk around it

queen sail
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@hollow shell late but iirc only pumpkings and ice queens were planned to get a post dog sprite revamp

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Nothing else

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Having new enemies instead of event rehashes would be nice though

devout seal
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Yup, that's what was planned.

earnest raptor
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it’s slightly annoying but you can atleast walk around it
While Perfs rain can be dodged by walking in one place, Hive's rain effectively cut arena into two pieces for short time.

zealous ridge
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I think perfs is a lot more constantly present, he basically locks you into certain positions all through out the fight

To some degree you can choose where hive mind splits the arena because the dank creepers spawn the clouds, and it is a bit temporary
Also you can jump over them

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Imo

earnest raptor
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Jumping over Hive Mind's clouds is very hard or tricky.

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Too high.

zealous ridge
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He spawns them from dead dank creepers right?

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Is there another method he uses I think there is

earnest raptor
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He spawn barrages of clouds in death with every dash.

zealous ridge
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yes yes I remember that

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he does that from above, with a well spaced arena the clouds could be jumped over

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but in any case

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p2 hp being 20k is arguably a lot, and I can see it dragging the fight longer than is fun with certain builds

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I just worry if this would make him too easy compared to perf, because although he has lower hp I’d say his fight is more frantic than hive minds with all the projectile spam and worms

earnest raptor
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The Perforators are vulnerable to piercing.

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And do not shoot projs.

zealous ridge
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The worms are at least yeah

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but they can still be a doozy without a properly designed arena

earnest raptor
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The one hive mind in even Rev have a 1.5x more hp, that all worms.

queen delta
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this is one great suggestion

teal ibex
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@cosmic musk btw, just putting it out there

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even if this doesn't happen, you can use one of the celestial monoliths

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i.e. the stardust one

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so you can have a blue background instead

hollow shell
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Do those work during Providence?

teal ibex
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but i would also like some sort of adjustment for providence visibility

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i believe so

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i can check real fast

hollow shell
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Never even thought of that

teal ibex
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yeah it works, it's super big brain, i hadn't thought of it either

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stuff does appear a little faded though, but it helps a little

cosmic musk
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Wow what the heck??

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that's sick lmao I didn't even consider that

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(It would still be a cool implementation though!)

teal ibex
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yeah, right? it's such a fringe idea

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but it's also a little silly

cosmic musk
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in retro lighting engine it looks really wacky lol

pliant bone
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mfw I just know about that info right after finishing dm provi nohit

cosmic musk
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im about to start the nohit journey so, will be nice to know for when i get there 😅

zenith hazel
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mfw I want that before I do my dm provi nohit

unique vector
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@thorny bay i don't know if thats a right way to approach it

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instead of going "hey player, want to skip grinding as long as you have enough money?", it would be better to just straight up boost the drop chance of said items

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now that's also dependent on how strong the items made from the materials are, which would explain the rarity of the materials

queen sail
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Also it ignores that one of terraria’s main gameplay elements is grinding

gilded badger
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Chaos candle + summons takes care of most material issues

frail mantle
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Make this image an emote named :what:
Reason for this suggestion: I feel like this server lacks an emote to showcase confusion, and i believe this image would fit that emotion pretty well.

unique vector
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i think it needs to be more calamity themed for it to be accepted, but you can send it through anyway

frail mantle
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hmm

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i could try remaking it as some Calamity character, would that be better?

void kelp
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scal what

zenith hazel
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well her human art’s expression seems kinda confused...?

void kelp
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I’ve always found her expression in that to be more like “ok try me”

hollow shell
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@thorny bay Maneater* Bulb

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or Trapper*

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Not sure if they're all that hard to obtain tho

ashen warren
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Yeah, that's true. In pre Hardmode, I got like 20-30 Ancient Bone Dusts, 10-15 Murky Pastes and Murky Sludges and 5-10 Maneater Bulbs.

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They are even easy to get in Hardmode.

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No need to make them sold.

void kelp
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only holdback is just rng

ashen warren
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Yeah, I have three rare variants thanks to RNG.

unique vector
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@drifting schooner isnt that similar to thorium's bard class?

drifting schooner
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I think that A they have no bonus for minions and B are mostly if not all buff based?

frail mantle
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sounds like a combo of Bard and those banner things from Thorium

drifting schooner
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idk though, been a while since ive done thorium

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oh no, gonna get banned for plagiarizing 😃

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yeah, it is very simular but from what I can see from a quick glance at the wiki it's all layer buffs?

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should I delete it?

hollow shell
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Nah

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They'd still be good to have in Calamity

drifting schooner
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aight

zealous ridge
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Yeah I like your wand suggestion, gives summoners something to do

distant gyro
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why is the "sprite" so big

zealous ridge
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I don’t know the picture is very larg

distant gyro
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just resize to like 50% with mspaint iirc

zealous ridge
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I might do that if it’s possible on a mobile device

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But yeah

drifting schooner
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another idea I have would be right clicking yourself to recall summons? I don't know why that would be useful doe, maybe destructible projectiles or if wand had a small AoE

polar dock
drifting schooner
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but the more i think about it the worse the idea gets

hollow shell
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Those effects are a bit powerful

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would be better to not specify any specific value

frail mantle
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yea

hollow shell
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like "increased stealth capacity" and "less stealth used when attacking"

frail mantle
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idea sounds cool, but stats are a bit too stronk

hollow shell
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@zinc thunder ^

zinc thunder
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wat

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were poeple talking without me?

hollow shell
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Just some suggestions about your suggestion

zinc thunder
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yeah

bitter drift
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dungeon spike (the name of the spikes found in the dungeon is "spike")
made by: 1 spike for 1 dungeon spike at a bone welder.
does the damage of a post WoF weapon, has auto fire, pierce 6 enemies and is extremely fast firing speed.
down sides: is a consumables, does 3 damage to you when you throw one (this damage does knockback and reset adrenalin)
[the fast firing speed is kind of a debuff because you will lose much health]
what it does: throws a spike that does a lot of damage, you will damage yourself

lizard saw
made by: 100 wood spikes (those you find in the jungle temple), a core of calamity and 20 lizard bricks at a lizard furnace.
pros: does the damage of a post profaned chicken nuggets weapon, isn't a consumable, pierce every enemy and have a firing speed of 1.
cons: does 5 damage when you throw it (damage does have knockback and doesn't reset adrenalin)
what it does: throws 2 saws in a row when you fire a saw you will take damage.

what do you think?

smoky wagon
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hm