suggestions-discussion

[smoky wagon]

what do you accomplish from removing the ability to skip random events

[gusty geode]

So then give it something of use post-KS
Iirc Slime God spawned naturally during it in Hardmode a while back, right? Maybe bring that mechanic back, and otherwise add some new spawns/drops to make it more useful

[queen sail]

Literally the only thing that would make SR useful is giving it Calamity slimes

Having it be something other than just

[radiant meadow]

except slime god isn't really useful in hardmode

[smoky wagon]

bring back astrogeldon slime

[radiant meadow]

unless you skipped it and need electrolyte gel pack

[zenith hazel]

irradiated slime rain

[queen sail]

sLIME iS fALLING fROM tHE sKY

[zenith hazel]

good for lead cores and nothing else

[queen sail]

Tbh if you have fargo’s soul mod you fucking need those cores

Like

Three of them

[bitter drift]

rip amalrgedon slime or however you are called you will be missed
(i was gonna suggest slime weapons in that phase)

[zenith hazel]

then again you can just zerg at the sulphurous sea and achieve the same result

yeah slimes suck

[gilded badger]

slimes are humble

[bitter drift]

slime are slimy

[gusty geode]

Again, that can be changed
Along with adding ore slimes to the spawnlist like KirbyMaster said, maybe SG could have a special drop exclusive to Slime Rains
Maybe even add a few unique slimes to make other items more easily renewable, like Ichor, Cursed Flames, Cinderplate, etc
Turn it into the game's bread basket

[dense girder]

astrageldon slime is the best boss in the calamity mod

[safe gust]

please vote for the bicycle my spiritual fulfillment depends on it

[bitter drift]

agreed

[zenith hazel]

aureus is miles better

but I digress

[dense girder]

why are you begging for stars

please vote for my suggestion i cant live without smuglasses

[safe gust]

I like the smuglasses

[bitter drift]

that boss is ded

[dense girder]

somebody said that the deal with server-based suggestions is they're not as controversial/not as much work as mod suggestions so the star limit doesnt particularly apply or smn like that

i mean, there's 107 emote slots or something, right? might as well add it if you ask me

[queen sail]

Man just donate if you want a bike

[bitter drift]

Bad Opinions Squid
are you gonna suggest a suggestion of what you said?

[safe gust]

i am not donating money for something i could do myself.

[zenith hazel]

speech 100

[queen sail]

Then do it yourself

:wack:

[safe gust]

thats less fun

[bitter drift]

are you talking to me?

[zenith hazel]

what even is your logic

[safe gust]

bicycle

[zenith hazel]

you don't have fun while doing something so you ask others to do it?

[safe gust]

nah just calamity

[bitter drift]

[dense girder]

honestly jotaro if you so desire

make the Bicycle Mod on your own then

[bitter drift]

insert more meme emotes into chat

[safe gust]

thats not the point

[queen sail]

I guarantee you that no matter what you do, your bike suggestion will never get to the suggestion review from the devs

[safe gust]

itd defeat the purpose of my quest

[queen sail]

So........

You’re suggesting for memes then

[safe gust]

well are you positive

its not a meme

[bitter drift]

sToP mEmiNg

[zenith hazel]

we're positive that your logic is hard to understand

[queen sail]

Suggestions meant for one person really aren’t going to get into the suggestion review

[safe gust]

my logic is ask for a shiny red bicycle and watch it get added

and bicycle is for everyone

[queen sail]

Okay but like

[zenith hazel]

I was referring to your statement being "I am not donating money for something I could do myself, but if I do it myself it wouldn't be fun"

[queen sail]

Hermes boots aren’t that hard to find

[safe gust]

exactly

you just summarized my argument

[queen sail]

And slimy saddle is pretty viable for nohits because of the increased gravity

[lost agate]

not only nohits

[safe gust]

nohits aren't for the average player

[lost agate]

its good to have in general

[gilded badger]

i like bike but this conversation is really dumb

[safe gust]

low horizontal mobility

[queen sail]

The bounce saves it tbh

[safe gust]

not really

[bitter drift]

Cabig... are you insane

[queen sail]

Probably

[safe gust]

im a bike enthusiast

[queen sail]

Why do we even need a bike

And why does he insist only Calamity add it

[safe gust]

read my suggestion

[gilded badger]

the point isnt about usability or the numbers, its about having a sick fuckin bike

dunno why its calamity specifically

[safe gust]

Exactly

because calamity

[lost agate]

are your really arguing over a suggestion from yesterday

also, you need another reason rather than "it would be cool"

[safe gust]

read my suggestion

[zenith hazel]

well it started when he wanted more stars on his bicycle suggestion

[queen sail]

Apparently it’s so that there’s more mount options besides saddle

But i mean

[lost agate]

there is tho

several other options

[queen sail]

Saddle is already good on its own

[safe gust]

its not

[gilded badger]

needing a reason beyond being cool doesnt hold up to half of the stuff in calamity imo

[queen sail]

It makes DS even more of a joke

[zenith hazel]

how is saddle not good?

[safe gust]

saddle is slow in horizontal movement

[queen sail]

The high jump can get you places if you have no grappling hook yet

[safe gust]

just get a hook

[lost agate]

or for dodging

[bitter drift]

isn't deserted scourge already a joke

[zenith hazel]

ok, by your logic, your bicycle isn't good because of bad vertical movement

[safe gust]

just get a shield of cthulhu

[gilded badger]

he never said slime was bad

[sleek wadi]

Saddle is good because of the fall speed

[gusty geode]

I actually like it

[lost agate]

shield doesnt work like the saddle wh

[safe gust]

Exactly

It's balanced to the shitty saddle

[lost agate]

whats the freaking point on that?

[frail mantle]

minimap icons for the Guardians in the Prov fight has been suggested before

[zenith hazel]

it's not shitty, what?

[lost agate]

wh

[queen sail]

Analyzing your logic, you see them narrow mindedly

[zenith hazel]

saddle is useful

[safe gust]

Analyzing your logic you seem to be no fun

[zenith hazel]

hell, it's even useful in expert due to no jellybean mount

and jellybean mount is great for yharon

[lost agate]

ok imma ask you all to drop this topic since the only arguments given are "saddle bad" and " just get gear 4head"

so drop it

[gusty geode]

wait nvm
Was gonna say a mount with good horizontal mobility but bad vertical mobility would be a nice contrast to the Slimy Saddle's good vertical mobility but bad horizontal mobility
But Onyx Drill thing already had that covered

[safe gust]

read my suggestion dude

[lost agate]

i did

stop insisting on that

[gusty geode]

Was also gonna say if it were pre-boss maybe
But again
Onyx Drill

[queen sail]

Onyx drill is balanced out by being the hardest shrine item to find tbh

[bitter drift]

slime saddle is dropped by the first boss of vanilla
how about we make it from the first calamity boss

[queen sail]

@rancid laurel Do they not?

[lost agate]

guardians dont have map icons on the provi fight no

[zenith hazel]

slime mount for DS,

[rancid laurel]

No, they have their own icons for their own fight but not for the providence fight

[bitter drift]

no

[gusty geode]

Maybe edit it a little and move it up a few tiers
Like a Profaned Bike that leaves trails of damaging Holy Flames behind it and moves really fast, but can only fly by use of a ramp

[queen sail]

Better get to that then

[bitter drift]

a mount for DS

[queen sail]

Can help for those with low resolutions

[zenith hazel]

so... a worm mount?

[frail mantle]

it's been suggested before

[safe gust]

[bitter drift]

[zenith hazel]

what would that.... achieve?

[gusty geode]

Worm mount would be awesome tbh

[frail mantle]

worm mount would be buggy tbh

[rancid laurel]

What if the worm mount was stackable and the more you had the more segments the worm had

[bitter drift]

good vertical bad horizontal

[queen sail]

@gusty geode Calamity’s Vanities has a Providence motorcycle

[safe gust]

ew

[zenith hazel]

so a flying worm?

[gusty geode]

Shit

[rancid laurel]

Not sure what it would do to have more segments but that would be cool

[zenith hazel]

aren't worms supposed to move horizontally?

[bitter drift]

not flying

[sleek wadi]

Worm mount that could give you small-scale noclip? Like, you could dash through any 2-block thick walls/ceilings

[radiant meadow]

if worm summons are bad, how bad would a worm mount be?

[zenith hazel]

you said "bad horizontal good vertical"

[bitter drift]

i suck at English so i might say everything backwards

[zenith hazel]

so a bouncing worm

[frail mantle]

what Termi said

[zenith hazel]

well, it could hit something multiple times?

not sure how that'll work

[gusty geode]

Ok
Uh
How about another bike that's all Borderlands-y and drops from the Skeleton Commando
Because of course a badass rocket-launcher skeleton would have a bicycle

[bitter drift]

any way i'm going to say it at an understandable version
good left and right speed bad up and down speed

[gusty geode]

A bike could work if executed correctly

[safe gust]

Yes

[lost agate]

what difference would it have from the dog mount or bunny mount?

[safe gust]

a bell

[zenith hazel]

huh?

[safe gust]

and coolness factor

[lost agate]

.

[zenith hazel]

you're riding on a literal dog instead of a bike

[bitter drift]

Bad Opinions Squid about you suggestion
i think of a worm (from deserted scourge) that give benefits for going sideways
but have a big down side when moving up and down like taking a bit of damage

[safe gust]

thats unrealistic

[bitter drift]

why a DS worm?

[zenith hazel]

nothing in this game is realistic

[lost agate]

you really are stubborn with that bike arent you

[safe gust]

yep

desert scourge bike would be cool

half worm half bike

totally rad

[lost agate]

thats unrealistic

[bitter drift]

[zenith hazel]

I'm losing brain cells at this point

[safe gust]

see you just have a narrow mind

[bitter drift]

yap

[sinful violet]

alright lets uh

[lost agate]

i said what you just said

[sinful violet]

i have a slight grasp on the issue here

[lost agate]

so it also applies to you

[safe gust]

:[

issue?

[sinful violet]

yeah there clearly is one from reading through all that

[safe gust]

its just a discussion.

[zenith hazel]

right...

[sinful violet]

Yeah it looks like a preeetty one sided 'discussion' that extended past the bike. You're going to need better reasons for the suggestion and such.

If the reason is just "Because it would be cool" then that's honestly fine.

[safe gust]

sweet someone who gets it

[sinful violet]

But you would do better to not complain about how unrealistic and close minded people are in arguing for the suggestion.

Since that makes no sense.

[safe gust]

but the bicycle

would be pretty sweet

[gusty geode]

not to mention hypocritical as hell tbh

[sinful violet]

sure but just watch the way you address people after making stupid claims like "it's unrealistic" or "you're close minded"

that stuff is the issue here.

[safe gust]

i was just quoting a prior response to my claim about a rad bicycle

[bitter drift]

stormy carpet. a mount
dropped by the deserted scourge with the same chance as the slime saddle.
summons a worm for you to ride, worm doesn't have flight.
if pressing down while touching a block the worm will move through it suffocating you.
if pressing up the worm will jump making you lose some momentum
the longer it moves on land the longer, stronger and faster it becomes

what do you think?

[gusty geode]

You want your bike? Make it more than a bike

[safe gust]

ok bike

plus

a flag on the back so cars dont hit you

[gilded badger]

dude

[unique vector]

the main point is that people should respect public criticism

[zenith hazel]

essentially, don't press W or S

[gusty geode]

[unique vector]

even if people disagree with what you suggest dont go insulting them

[bitter drift]

no thy have uses

[gusty geode]

Ok, let me try

[unique vector]

and by the way, what does a car have to do with terraria

[zenith hazel]

and essentially, it's like a pre-hm burden breaker?

[safe gust]

exactly

yes

except less chaotic

[zenith hazel]

referring to adir's carpet

[bitter drift]

wait a sec

[safe gust]

for my money

carpet is one of the best ideas ever

[bitter drift]

no not at all Bravioli

[zenith hazel]

you said it will get faster the longer it travels

[unique vector]

btw

[safe gust]

some advice though slap two wheels on it and some handlebars

[unique vector]

anything worm related will get you shot by fab

[zenith hazel]

what does the burden breaker do again?

[unique vector]

because coding worm ai is a fucking pain

[frail mantle]

it makes you go nyoom

[queen sail]

But fab loves worm bosses though

[zenith hazel]

oh right

[queen sail]

[unique vector]

not when it relates to coding them smh

[bitter drift]

actually a bit of it is true but it isn't like the burden breaker with it's insane speed

[radiant meadow]

coding mounts isn't really the easiest

[gusty geode]

A bike that you craft using Cloud Blocks, Iron, a Nimbus Rod and some Living Shards
Allows you to fly for a good while using it, but it relies on mana to keep you afloat. Once you run out, you're afflicted with a debuff that causes you to fall at Slimy Saddle speeds and take fall damage regardless of whether you have wings or not
Something like "Bike Crash"

[bitter drift]

maximum it will be frost spark boots speed

[safe gust]

justice crash

[gusty geode]

You're pretty much riding on clouds

[radiant meadow]

coding mounts is similar to coding summons in desirability

[zenith hazel]

so what’s the purpose of it if you can use frostspark boots?

besides killing things which you can do normally

[bitter drift]

do normal people use frost spark at this level

[zenith hazel]

yes

[safe gust]

Because it's pre hardmode

[zenith hazel]

frostspark is pre-boss

[safe gust]

And easily accessible

[bitter drift]

so how about angle treads

[zenith hazel]

hmm

[gusty geode]

No, my idea is post-Plantera

[radiant meadow]

angel treads are available as soon as you get all 3 mech souls

[bitter drift]

we are talking about mine

[zenith hazel]

as in the speed will match angel treads

[bitter drift]

yes

[safe gust]

oh it is

[gusty geode]

The idea here is basically a worse Cute Fishron
Same flight time, but with no speed boost in water and a nasty punishment if you use it incorrectly

And yeah
Nimbus Rod is a hardmode weapon and Living Shards drop from Plantera

[sinful violet]

alright warned

[frail mantle]

yes, that is indeed a bike

[gusty geode]

And it probably won't look anything like that

[safe gust]

what does a warn do

[sinful violet]

it's entirely offtopic and everyone's sick of you forcing the bikes.

[gusty geode]

Also let's calm down here
We can sort this out peacefully

[safe gust]

its a bicycle

[sinful violet]

Read the rules, first of all

[gusty geode]

Give him his bike and he'll shut up
We just need to make a bike that's actually worth it for anyone besides him to have

[sinful violet]

And second, use your common sense when it comes to people telling you to stop . with something.

[bitter drift]

stormy carpet. a mount
dropped by the deserted scourge with the same chance as the slime saddle.
summons a worm for you to ride, worm doesn't have flight.
if pressing down while touching a block the worm will move through it suffocating you.
if pressing up the worm will jump making you lose some momentum
the longer it moves on land the longer, stronger and faster it becomes, at max you move as fast as you are if you are using the angle treads have 10 tiles hitbox and does 30 damage a hit.

what do you think now?(made it more specific)

[safe gust]

sorry i cant take hints

[lost agate]

something wont be added just because someone is stubborn about it

[queen sail]

:thenperish:

[bitter drift]

[safe gust]

how was i stubborn thats not nice

[queen sail]

Boi this has been going on for at least 20 minutes

[lost agate]

if anything it can be the opposite

[queen delta]

It would help to read the rules before participating in anything...

[gusty geode]

Make love not war
If we do this right we could have a genuinely good mount
Then everyone's happy

[zenith hazel]

you pretty much said people were “close-minded” and “narrow”

[safe gust]

because i was called close minded and narrow as well

[lost agate]

yes, lets not talk about bikes or this topic at all any more

[zenith hazel]

and you were extremely persistent on the bike thing

[safe gust]

its whatever. ill just suggest again in six months

[gusty geode]

oof

[smoky wagon]

this entire thing is

[bitter drift]

ok

[safe gust]

love is love

[zenith hazel]

let’s just move on

[bitter drift]

k

[gusty geode]

I'm trying to get us to a compromise here but fine

[bitter drift]

i put the specifics what do you think

[safe gust]

squid is nice

[lost agate]

i already said drop it

[glad loom]

non moderators acting like mods pepelaugh

[safe gust]

^

[zenith hazel]

carpet is nice

[bitter drift]

thanks

[zenith hazel]

could be viable

[frail mantle]

might be ass to code but looks interesting

[safe gust]

carpet is good

[bitter drift]

to post it?

[safe gust]

for my money though

[bitter drift]

wot

[safe gust]

a mouse guided mount would also be pretty sweet

[bitter drift]

you move with the keyboard

[frail mantle]

like, a mount that moves towards your cursor?

[safe gust]

Yes

[frail mantle]

could be cool

[bitter drift]

maybe a mount that attack with it

i don't think you can move something with your mouse

[smoky wagon]

mouse guided mount

[lost agate]

theres mounts that attack already

dog mount can ram enemies

[zenith hazel]

you can move yourself using your mouse, it’s called RoD

[smoky wagon]

that would be good outside of combat only

[bitter drift]

every mount

so is the attack a car crash?

[safe gust]

im actually going to just

take that idea and use it myself

my bad

[bitter drift]

what idea

[safe gust]

nothing

[bitter drift]

don't take the carpet

[safe gust]

what no

i dont want the carpet

[young fog]

Exo weapons aren't allowed iirc

[radiant meadow]

there's no need to state that sotc isn't an exo spear

and yes, exo weapons are not allowed

also, there's like 5 or 6 exo tier melee weapons

[zenith hazel]

there are like 5 auric melee weapons already too

[gusty geode]

Tbf there's no reason the (current) ultimate weapon tier besides dev weapons shouldn't have at least one of every weapon type in the game

[radiant meadow]

murasama, ark of the cosmos, exoblade, ataraxia, oracle, dragon pow

[zenith hazel]

one does too much damage, one is barely viable, one is a flail, one is viable, one can kill hearts pretty quickly

[young fog]

does murasama really count tho

[zenith hazel]

and then there’s murasama which can skip yharon p2

[radiant meadow]

well, it is an exo tier melee weapon

[young fog]

considering its a pre boss if ur name's sam

[radiant meadow]

that doesn't mean it's balanced for pre boss

[young fog]

fair

[gusty geode]

Am I wrong tho
Why isn't that the case
The final set of weapons should give you all the options
even if it's not gonna be the final set forever

[lost agate]

Exactly because of that

[radiant meadow]

because exo weapons take more time to program for 1 thing

[gusty geode]

I just realized that everything the Exo weapons do; the ridiculous effects, the complex crafting recipes, all of it
Whatever weapons come after Draedon, SCal and beyond need to surpass that

[young fog]

[radiant meadow]

Auric weapons will likely be moved to post-Draedon

[queen sail]

Well, I mean

Yeah

[zenith hazel]

so there will be something new post-yharon?

[queen sail]

It’s his shit

[gusty geode]

But that's offtopic
Still, at the very least I think a gun would be nice
Ranger's got two primary weapon types that it can choose from, but only one of them is viable for SCal
That not seem like a problem to you?

[lost agate]

We could potentially get auric weapons in that case

[queen sail]

Honestly auric gun is probably needed

[radiant meadow]

that's not correct though

[zenith hazel]

3 weapons actually

[queen sail]

Then again onyxia exists

[zenith hazel]

drat

[radiant meadow]

gale, drat, and photo are all viable for scal

[queen sail]

Drat is not obv viable what you talking about

[gusty geode]

That's not what I mean
Those are all bows, right?

[queen sail]

I always get hit

[radiant meadow]

photo is a flamethrower

flamethrower != bow last I checked

[gusty geode]

oh wow, really

[queen delta]

I found gale to be the best exo tier ranged weapon

[gusty geode]

Still, I imagine a lot of people would appreciate a normal gun at that tier
I'd much rather a rocket launcher but whatever

[radiant meadow]

I found gale was good for hearts and increasing framerate

[queen sail]

Wasnt exo memebow like

Nerfed a long time ago though

Probably because it was fucking broken

[radiant meadow]

gale has received nerfs in the past, yes

[queen delta]

https://gyazo.com/4206faab63d8559e9e62ef6d55a91d28

[queen sail]

What the fuck

[young fog]

oh shit, a dq

[radiant meadow]

death rippers and ranger set bonus smh

[queen sail]

Why not use Soul of the Tyrant tbh

Press Y to turn into a nuclear bomb

[queen delta]

this kinda does overexaggerate the power, but its still better than AotC and almost on par with celestus

[queen sail]

Celestus

More like

Lag incarnate

Also AotC is 👌

[lost agate]

Sepulcher deletes projectiles sooooo

[zenith hazel]

oracle tbh

[queen sail]

Oracle is really only inhibited by its range

Other than that it shreds

Anyways this ain’t a chat for exomemes so i’m just gonna go back to creating and deleting terraria worlds until i get a suitable one

[frosty kindle]

@queen delta yo, is this recent gale? :pog:

[queen delta]

this is from last update

when sepulcher didnt delete projectiles

[frosty kindle]

neat

[queen delta]

should i go for a updated version of it?

and see if it can still melt?

[radiant meadow]

@knotty current that's not going to happen

it's already been suggested previously

[knotty current]

darn

[tired haven]

Currently thinking on this concept, whatcha think?

Moon Shade Staff
Early game (post-King Slime) Summoner weapon

Crafting recipe: 20 Frozen Slime Blocks, 2 Lens

A crescent-shaped crystal will appear above player's head. Can only be summoned once, like Sun Spirit. It will spawn white "bombs" similar to ones Rainbow Crystal Staff spawns but much rarer.

Possible upgrades:

• Moon Eclipse Staff, Post-3mechs upgrade, spawns more bombs, they explode faster
• Supernal Equilibrium, Post-cultist upgrade that combines Sun God Staff and Moon Eclipse Staff with several improvements

[frail mantle]

i like

[zenith hazel]

same

I just don't get what frozen slime blocks have to do with the moon

[tired haven]

Mmmm
Sun - Desert - Sandstone
Moon - Snow - Frozen Slime

Smth about that p much

I mean, could've been just Ice or Ice bricks but that's boring

[smoky wagon]

Maybe the upgraded version could freeze enemies also

[zenith hazel]

and that'd make it pre-boss too

[tired haven]

secretly I don't want it to be preboss to not oversaturate prebpss tier

[zenith hazel]

to be fair, the moon has more to do with tides and such

then again, there's nothing much that's related to tides

[tired haven]

Victide technically, but mhm

[zenith hazel]

yeah, victide could theoretically work

but again, pre-boss

[tired haven]

There is poor cnidrion

[zenith hazel]

I wonder if the sunken sea has tides

then sea prisms could play a part

[tired haven]

It kinda should ngl

Then sea prisms could replace lens apparently

And frozen slime changed to just ice/snow

[knotty current]

another pre boss summon would be nice

maybe that or a wulfrum summon

[civic pond]

I doubt wulfrum weapons will be changed or have more added at this point

[worthy fiber]

The aesthetic of Wulfrum will be changed at some point afaik

[placid moth]

We do love the old theme.

[worthy fiber]

Pretty sure plenty of people find difficulty there @arctic notch

[arctic notch]

Thoughts?

[lost agate]

"and clearly only exists to extend the amount of time the fight takes."
This is false

Also its hella hard to dodge for some people

@arctic notch i think youre missing a little detail in the reasoning

Not to mention the subjectivity

[arctic notch]

If you have even a Cosmic Car Key at least it makes it nearly no-hittable.

[lost agate]

Im surprised you dont faceplant into the vertical walls with that, and it also doesnt just "extend the fight"

Also, are you basing this in one, maybe op, strat?

[arctic notch]

No.

Across every playthrough of mine.

And each one is different.

[lost agate]

Using ufo in all of those attempts?

[arctic notch]

Not in all.

Some with the Brimrose.

[lost agate]

Which is basically the same thing

[arctic notch]

Faster, less likely to ram into shit.

[lost agate]

Imo, things shouldnt be removed because you think are easy, and its in no way only used to extend the fight

So you dont convince me here bud

[arctic notch]

Oh yeah? Then how come you can't hurt him in that state? And if you say "It's only an invulnerability stage", no. None are that long.

[lost agate]

....you can hurt him on the walls...

[arctic notch]

Since when?

[lost agate]

Since months

[arctic notch]

Oh.

Well, any thoughts on my other suggestion?

[worthy fiber]

It was changed in an update

(the wall hurty thing)

[unique vector]

another thing to note is that the laser walls only last about 5 seconds

even in older versions, you would be able to kill dog fairly quickly without going through more than 5-6 of them

[arctic notch]

Okay. What about my other suggestion?

[unique vector]

eh

i dont know of fab’s thoughts on whether he wants to do an upgraded version of it

[bitter drift]

any criticism?

[frail mantle]

For Cryo you have Spear of Paleolith, Spear of Destiny, Prismalline and Lionfish

[bitter drift]

wait SoD?

[frail mantle]

Yes

[fickle spruce]

a spear

[frail mantle]

RIV of the Ichor Spear

[bitter drift]

as i said either support weapon or not viable

[frail mantle]

SoD is definitely viable for Cryo

[bitter drift]

but what if you are in a corruption world

[frail mantle]

In fact, I think it’s viable for all Mech-tier bosses

If you’re in a Corruption world, you can still get the SoD relatively easily

[bitter drift]

how

[frail mantle]

Crimson island

It takes some time, but it’s there

[bitter drift]

Ichor spitter only spawn underground

[frail mantle]

Yes, that statement is true

[bitter drift]

you have to make an artificial biome

[frail mantle]

But you can take the blocks in the Crimson Island and place them underground

[bitter drift]

ok so we have 3 viable weapons

[frail mantle]

Four

[bitter drift]

SoP is not that viable for cryo

[frail mantle]

It can be good if you use it well

[bitter drift]

how can you get it's max petechial when cryo is 50% of the time above you and 100% of the time is not below you

[placid moth]

petechial

potential ?

[bitter drift]

suck at englsih

[frail mantle]

You aim it in a way that all the fragments fall onto Cryo as he moves

[bitter drift]

but what about that last stage simply switch?

or spray up and pray

[frail mantle]

In that last stage you can just continue firing up, and Cryo will most likely just ram into the fragments as they fall

[bitter drift]

soooooooo spray up and pray

[frail mantle]

Yea

Either way, SoP isn’t gonna be buffed

[bitter drift]

god no wonder i have cryo with SoP

but love it against the mech bosses

do you think we can have a curst dagger RIV

[frail mantle]

We can, I suppose

[bitter drift]

ok

[fickle spruce]

that would fuck up a couple of weapon recipes with living sharks

that are supposed to be post plantera

like terra blade

[signal prairie]

The Terra weapons will have Tenebris and Planty Mush added to their recipes

[fickle spruce]

nvm i should go to sleep my brain doesn't work

[signal prairie]

Inturn, add Planty Mush and Tenebris to all weapon recipes that have Living Shards in it and make Planty Mush and Tenebris only able to be collected once Plantera is defeated.

[copper flame]

@signal prairie 50 souls and ch. bars? maybe 5?

[frail mantle]

yea fifty bars for one shard is a bit extreme

[night cradle]

^

[signal prairie]

It's meant to be a bit of a grindy recipe. I think about it like this, "I can grind countless hours in the jungle looking for life fruit and collecting Chlorophyte to make a Life Fruit. Killing 2 bird with one stone." but I can reduce it if needed

[quiet abyss]

That’d still screw up some weapons
There are some weapons like megalodon, undine retribution etc. that are able to be obtained before plant if you kill clone first
Making tenebris post plant would force those weapons to be post plant instead of post/clone plant and it’d estentially make clone triggering depth cell and lumenyl drops pointless since weapons that require those typically require tenebris as well

@signal prairie

[signal prairie]

Damn, didn't think of those weapons

[quiet abyss]

If the main reason for the suggestion is to make life fruits easier to farm (and living shards too, to some extent) then might wanna suggest another recipe or solution

Or maybe suggest to change the current life fruit recipe to smth else, that could also work

[dense girder]

I like this idea :D

the sprite less so

[normal thorn]

Its my first sprite lol

I worked so hard on it

[radiant meadow]

it looks like 1x1s rather than 2x2s

Terraria uses 2x2s

[dense girder]

I'm really not the kind of guy to give feedback on it but I can say it's... no offense, but it's quite low-quality, I can let an actual spriter explain further with ya if you like

[normal thorn]

Ikr bro

[dense girder]

cooper help

[radiant meadow]

there's also a lot of blank space

[normal thorn]

Its just so people understand how it looks like

[worthy fiber]

It's not bad as a concept

[placid moth]

I like this

[worthy fiber]

You did a nice job

[placid moth]

I hope this gets in

[radiant meadow]

what I dislike are the low quality resprites

which this is not

[normal thorn]

The sprite itself is pretty low quality cuz i made it on phone :/

[radiant meadow]

someone suggested a scal treasure bag and attached a recolored eoc bag

[worthy fiber]

Sprite size should be 2 x 2, since that's how it is in Terraria

[tired haven]

It is not quite low-quality, it just doesn't fit standarts of terraria

[normal thorn]

So if it had less blank space it would be too blurry

[tired haven]

(also we all know that suggestions with sprites get more stars regardless)

[worthy fiber]

[normal thorn]

Though i kinda fd up because its god of death and i made it thunderstorm themed

Whatever i guess

[quiet abyss]

Looks more like a holy theme to me personally
With the yellow color and the light gray/white coloring

[zenith hazel]

mfw you tried to make it hades-related but you mixed up gods and got zeus instead

[normal thorn]

Xd

Actually i added lightning idk why it just looked cool

Hades has similiar scepter, i made it based of sculpture

[gloomy hazel]

You know what you could do? It's to add a little bit of noise effect on the colors, especially on the lightning effect.

[normal thorn]

Oh man im not good at spriting beleive me haha

[gloomy hazel]

you should also add a borderline, it'll make it look better

[normal thorn]

But ill try rn

How do i make noise effect though?

[worthy fiber]

Nah don't do the noise thing

[gloomy hazel]

for your lightning effect for example, you pick its yellow and add some slitghtly lighter/darker pixels at random

[worthy fiber]

Probably best if you take this to the art server

[gloomy hazel]

just, don't do it too much or else it would be like an attempt at camouflage

[worthy fiber]

They can help you with spriting the most

[gloomy hazel]

hold on, let me check on my side

[tired haven]

Noise allows for deeper sprite design but can also spoil a thing
That being said, heading right to the art server should help the most if you actually want to improve it and future sprites
If not, should just leave as is and tell peeps here

[normal thorn]

Ok! Thank you

Ill try to improve my magic rod

[gloomy hazel]

It's supposed to be this size, right?

because that's pretty big

[worthy fiber]

Yup

[normal thorn]

Seems like i cant change the picture without creating new post

[gloomy hazel]

I've added the border and made the top lightning lighter

[mental path]

why is it lightning tho

the theme doesn't fit for death imo

[gloomy hazel]

I dunno, it's what Lime Juice said so

[normal thorn]

I kinda want to make the lightning into red color

Or any other dark one

That fits

[worthy fiber]

A bit too close to the Death item

[normal thorn]

Yeah, red color defenetely fits it more

[gloomy hazel]

You tell me about this one

So you want red, huh?

[normal thorn]

It looks fantastic

Idk why but the top looks like golden magnet from PvZ lol

And also i want to remake the top part so it looks more like a real thing

[tired haven]

Aren't most weapons and tools positioned diagonally btw?

[frail mantle]

ye

[normal thorn]

Its just a concept art ><

[dense girder]

Concept art is best done:

• as a refined fleshed out sprite often done by experienced spriters
• as a regular drawing if you can't sprite very well

[gaunt tiger]

if I do pixel art and post it, is there a chance it'll be added?
else{ is there a bit of the server where they request art?}

[normal thorn]

Dovah is working on it rn

[worthy fiber]

#info

[gaunt tiger]

👌

[gloomy hazel]

Okay, this is what I've made so far

remember, I'm not the author of the original

[normal thorn]

Its much better than original haha

[radiant meadow]

@vague karma astrageldon is not coming back in any shape or form

[signal prairie]

Astrageldon Slime was Replaced for good reason

[normal thorn]

Ye it was bad

[vague karma]

oh ok

[radiant meadow]

it's also on the suggestion don'ts to not to suggest re-adding removed content

[zenith hazel]

epic sprite work

[hollow shell]

jesus christ why's it so big

For a utility item I'd expect it to be like 50 pixels tall (see Cosmolight)
whereas that's almost 200
for reference, Grand Guardian is 124 pixels tall

[ashen warren]

damn

[pseudo vine]

Why is there no builds channel? Would love to take some inspiration from the builders here!

Also because of the texture pack there are many things we could unfold and use for some awesome builds

[cyan lagoon]

#info

art server has you covered

[bitter topaz]

the art server has a channel for that

[pseudo vine]

Holy crabbar, sorry lol thanks!

[ivory heart]

Hyperbuff the Halibut Cannon

[cyan lagoon]

not funny anymore

[ivory heart]

No really

I actually want another buff to Halibut

[queen delta]

[ivory heart]

Well, another suggestion

Regenerative Injection
When used, you lose 10 HP and cannot regenerate life for 2 seconds. After those two seconds, you gain 5 seconds of initial rapid healing along with 2 minutes of smaller healing. If the Adhesive Bandage, Medicated Bandage, Ankh Charm, Ankh Shield, Asgard’s Valor, or Asgardian Aegis is equipped, then you will instantly get increased regeneration instead, however you will lose 15 HP instead of 10.

Suggested crafting recipe: 2 Water Bottles, 2 Healing Potions, and 1 Regeneration Potion, or 2 Water Bottles and 20 Blood Orbs at an Alchemy Table.

[tired haven]

Sounds a bit complicated for a painful version of Regeneration potion, ngl

[zenith hazel]

so essentially, it's an alternative to the astral injection in a sense?

as in the health variant?

[wanton surge]

you lost me the moment you started listing accessories

[gusty geode]

People make all these suggestions for a "back to death point" teleporter with a penalty but they fail to recognize that someone can just warp back home right afterward

[ivory heart]

Insignius
The Ultimate Accessory. Good luck, you’re going to need it.
Crafted from the Celestial Tracers, Asgardian Aegis, Void of Extinction, Core of the Blood God, the Amalgam, all four Soul Artifacts, and stuff that may drop from Draedon/Daedalus/Yharim.
A little grindy, but being the best accessory in the entire game if it’s implemented it’s definitely worth it.

[zenith hazel]

um...

[ivory heart]

This is not intended for the current version of Calamity.

But as a true endgame accessory.

[zenith hazel]

would that ruin the accessory slots?

[ivory heart]

Uhh what

[zenith hazel]

since now you have the ultimate accessory, you don't have to worry much about what to use anymore and such

[ivory heart]

Except this would be even far past SCal, into the level of Yharim, Draedon, etc. and even then the weapon goes a little beyond that in terms of progression

It’s like the developer weapons at this update

[fresh harbor]

I think it would break stuff way too hard

Since it would free up multiple accessory slots and thus allow you to equip more stuff

It frees the wing, the dash/shield, and a bunch of utility ones

[zenith hazel]

first of all, what?
second of all, boss suggestions aren't allowed if you're trying to go for that

[cold terrace]

@hollow shell memer in suggestions

sighe

[radiant meadow]

@queen zealot boss suggestions are not allowed

[cold terrace]

thanks termi, i almost pinged pixl

[unique vector]

yes and i would have been ticked off

i deleted the message, it serves no purpose there

[dusty stirrup]

Probably should've been a mute lol

[fickle spruce]

need to punish

[arctic wren]

Just saying
Thanatos is the god of death, not Hades
Hades is the lord of the underworld
Different things

[normal thorn]

Hades in the ancient Greek religion and myth, is the god of the dead and the king of the underworld

basically god of all corpses

*terraria included

hades is greek

thanatos is rome

greece and rome are different

they had their own gods of death i guess

[lusty idol]

i thought Pluto was Romes' Hades?

[hollow shell]

Yes.
Thanatos is Greek
His Roman equivalent is "Mors"

[dry stag]

Mars and Ares. Zeus and Jupiter. Hera and Juno. Pluto and Hades. Venus and Aphrodite (I think). Most Greek gods have a Roman ripoff

A 'shiv of the cosmos' is coming soon

Or eventually

[queen delta]

[bitter drift]

90 STARS BOIIIIIIIIISSS

[dense girder]

me too :smuglasses:

[worthy fiber]

I doubt biome suggestions will work

They'll pretty much have the same outcome as boss suggestions

[normal thorn]

Me too

[mental path]

with bad meteor rng you can get that biome in vanilla

[lost agate]

^

[zenith hazel]

meme suggestion?

[frail mantle]

meme suggestion, it seems

[radiant meadow]

@willow elm no meme suggestions please

[willow elm]

awwwww..

[bitter drift]

this doesn't look like a meme suggestion
but honestly we have enough space staff and meteor staff

[zenith hazel]

there was a deleted suggestion of changing the laudanum's name to a laudanama or sth like that

again, biome suggestions are bad

[ivory heart]

Seahorse Scrutiny

[frail mantle]

what about it

[ivory heart]

Just make something out of it, such as quieting the regular music and overlay

[frail mantle]

are you suggesting that the Cnidrion gets its own theme

[ivory heart]

No

I’m suggesting ALL minibosses get this theme

With the regular music playing as well, that being an overlay

[frail mantle]

minibosses aren't getting their own themes

[ivory heart]

At least implement the long-almost forgotten Seahorse Scrutiny in some way

[frail mantle]

how

and why

[hollow idol]

if the interludes and other scraps aint getting in, then SS isnt

[ivory heart]

I don’t know, but that short track in the beginning of Dokuro’s Universal Collapse video on YT has potential.

[distant gyro]

Wasn't SS a meme?

[frail mantle]

ye

[ivory heart]

It does have potential though

[distant gyro]

thus suggesting it = meme suggestion = beaned

[hollow idol]

tbf it sounded good while it lasted

[ivory heart]

Those three-four seconds do sound solid though

Would work great if extended

[hollow idol]

But dokuro has enough trouble

[ivory heart]

If I ever figured out what audio software dokuro uses I could extend it

Provided I even am allowed to

[hollow idol]

its also apparently a remix of the overworld theme

[frail mantle]

even if you complete it, i'm pretty sure it's not getting into the mod

[ivory heart]

Then again I could just make a mod myself that implements the change
Only problem is I don’t know how to mod

[distant gyro]

yea, you basically can't even implement it since cnidrion isn't even a miniboss anymore

[radiant meadow]

cnidrion isn't even considered a miniboss

[ivory heart]

No

[distant gyro]

[ivory heart]

I wanted it to be for all minibosses

[hollow idol]

he pretty much still is a miniboss anyways

[ivory heart]

Well

New suggestion then

Shadowedge
Rare variant of the Night’s Edge. Drops from enemies in the Cavern layer (minus statue spawns) with a 0.33% chance post-Skeletron. It may seem like an unimaginably slim percentage but take into account: how many enemies generally spawn in the cavern in a few minutes?
When it hits an enemy, a semi-homing projectile similar to the Influx waver attempts to hit the enemy for 50% of the sword’s damage.

We have Carnage, an RIV of the Bloody Edge, which is a variant of the Night’s Edge, which has no RIV

[lost agate]

If its true melee then im pretty sure the projectile will always hit

Also, i would make it 0.5% drop chance for consistency

btw feel free to slap in a reference when suggesting a RIV since almost all of them have some sort of reference

[radiant meadow]

^ this tbh

[echo horizon]

is my suggestion ok hahayes

[lost agate]

That has been suggested before i think?

[echo horizon]

i dont see any suggestion about that

[lost agate]

Hmm lemme check

[normal thorn]

Who even uses nullification pistol

[radiant meadow]

https://discordapp.com/channels/225030931008847874/263382359397761025/536622619571781632 this suggestion is like the same thing

just a different message

[echo horizon]

i didnt knew about that

should i delete it or

[radiant meadow]

you can leave it

[lost agate]

Nah

[radiant meadow]

Cob also had death message ideas that included molecular manipulator/nullification abuse

[young fog]

Iirc they’re robots not slimes

[lost agate]

Yeah

It has been suggested a lot anyways

[hollow idol]

that reminds me, why the hell do wulfrum drones have fleshy noises

[lost agate]

They are covered in gel ig

[dense girder]

so why dont they drop gel smh

i suggested that months ago

[normal thorn]

Wolfrum drones are minecraft creepers

[lost agate]

Not enough gel to have it drop ig

[dense girder]

LAZY DEVS ig smh

or well busy devs*

[lost agate]

Or theres some lore to it i dont know

[dense girder]

can pets do damage? I think some can right

[terse sundial]

no pets on PC can do damage

[dense girder]

ghur vampire

ah well

[terse sundial]

only a few of the console/mobile pets could do damage

[dense girder]

Rolling Stone
A summon that has a small chance of dropping whenever you kill a Gem Crawler. It summons a stone that follows the same AI as a Baby Slime, rolling and bouncing around. It deals some heavy damage to enemies but only if it hits them at a high velocity.

this is my idea

like a bouncy minecart

[ashen warren]

i kinda like that

[bitter drift]

ok that is kinda a nice idea

[tired haven]

Just a random thought

Introduce new mark for the "Don't" suggestions: ❌ (in case they are not deleted)
This should separate ☑ suggestions in 2 categories: ones that were suggested multiple times but are still viable feedback, and ones that were officially declined and are not relevant

[fervent zealot]

suggest it then dingus

[radiant meadow]

hasn't it been decided that there weren't going to be any rejection emotes?

[tired haven]

It isn't exactly a rejection?

More of "This is a Don't"

Though I can see the correlation

[dense girder]

don't not

[ivory heart]

Monster Key
Tooltip: Turns a chest into a mimic

Placing a Monster Key into a chest will destroy the chest and spawn a mimic. The key must be the only item in the chest. Placing multiple keys will not spawn multiple mimics.
Crafted from 5 Any Soul (Night/Light) at a Hardmode Anvil.
Admittedly, mimics are quite rare. I’d like to see something like this, as so far they are difficult to find without extensive farming, and even then mimics are stationary when initially spawning. They get only 5 souls as they are quite an easy enemy to kill even if you spawn one in Pre-Hardmode via a chest statue.

[queen delta]

I definitely would love this

[ivory heart]

Post in suggestions?

[frail mantle]

y e s

[queen delta]

But could probably change recipe a bit

[frail mantle]

i'd say make the recipe more expensive

[ivory heart]

I killed six mimics in vanilla pre hardmode with a minishark

Chest statues

[dry stag]

Something like that exists in vanilla

The keys

[ivory heart]

I mean regular mimics

[dense girder]

Making keys is dumb

[ivory heart]

Not biome mimics

[dry stag]

Oh. Cool

Good idea

[ivory heart]

Mimics are rare

[dry stag]

Titan glove, magic dagger, and star veil will be easier to get

[ivory heart]

Yes

[lost agate]

And the bee

[full bramble]

I've suggested it before

but yes, I am game with it

[bitter drift]

what do you think of this?

mirror sword (classless post moon lord weapon) [doesn't have auto fire]
made with any magic mirror and 20 luminite bars at a demon alter.
what it does: when you press the fire button you have 10 seconds of 1000 defense and 100% damage reduction (max is also going to 100%) but no invulnerability frames for 13 seconds, any damage taken will be absorbed in these 10 seconds, after the 10 seconds pass you will only have 50% of your defense and DR for 3 seconds while shooting a laser beam that passes through anything for the same amount of time.
damage of the laser is metered by how much damage you take in the 10 seconds of immortality the more damage you took the more damage the beam does.

it might be completely broken

[frail mantle]

name is similar to Mirror Blade

[bitter drift]

ya i can work on that

[frail mantle]

also imagine using this during SCal's BH5

[bitter drift]

it's just named that because of how it act

then a cooldown?

on the fire rate

what do u think?

[zenith hazel]

that’s too powerful

[hexed fog]

Gets 1000 defense
Gets hit by Scal
Takes almost no damage
Scal: no

[fickle spruce]

make a chest mimic when u put golden key in

[hollow idol]

pls no, i want to store my keys in peace

[ocean moss]

Make a craftable cursed golden key that spawns one?

Maybe with like

Two souls of night or something?

[frail mantle]

it should be a bit expensive to not make mimic farming too easy

[dry stag]

A magic weapon that drops from astreum Deus that spews out the mines that Deus shoots like a bubble gun, but unlike the bubbles, the mines stay until they damage an enemy

What do you think?

[frail mantle]

sounds interesting

[dry stag]

Is it something that already exists? That's my main worry

[frail mantle]

i'm pretty sure it doesn't

[dry stag]

It needs a name and a reason to be added

[civic pond]

It shoots those astral mines?

[dry stag]

Ye

[civic pond]

Astrum doesnt drop any magic guns or launchers iirc

[dry stag]

No he does not

[tired haven]

There is Abyssal Tome that does basically same thing (launching mines) but on SG tier, so this one is both possible and relevant

Also Deus drops starfall or whatever

[dry stag]

Yeah Starfall

[sullen sedge]

Have a spear that fires the stars from the AotC(ark of the cosmos) and the stars pierce 10 times and home and the stars have a similar function to he piranha gun and the seabound staff but looks like the star from AotC

And tile ignorig

Ignoring

[zenith hazel]

so it functions like the reaper

[sullen sedge]

?

[zenith hazel]

the function is somewhat like the reaper

but with stars

[dry stag]

?

[frail mantle]

why should it be added

[zenith hazel]

and we all know how broken the reaper is

[sullen sedge]

Mine?

[zenith hazel]

yeah, why?

and which point of the game is it at?

[dry stag]

I wiki'd reaper and all that came up was the vanilla mob

[zenith hazel]

again, why should it be added?

the reaper is the RIV of valediction btw

[sullen sedge]

Sorry wrong section

[terse sundial]

its called The Reaper smh

[dry stag]

Minimis is insignificant in latin. I thought it would be a nice little twist since Deus is king in latin, and astrum is star

[errant grove]

@dry stag yea but if they stay until they hit an enemy, then they will never despawn

and that would be a problem

@ivory heart i also think that it also depends on which biome you are in, or which chest is used

[quiet abyss]

@sullen sedge You’ll need to elaborate further than that.
You didn’t say anything about where the weapon is in progression and how to obtain it
And your explanation of how it works is a bit confusing, it could be worded better

[radiant pivot]

Wait there are mousepads?

I'm in need of a new mousepad 👀

[cyan lagoon]

why here though

and yes there are mousepads

check #info for link

[mystic sandal]

what do you guys think about this suggestion?

Useless Knife
The Useless Knife is a post-Polterghast upgrade to the Stellar Knife that can be crafted using 15 Uelibloom Bars, 20 Phantoplasm, 10 Ruinous Souls, 3 Reaper Teeth, and a Stellar Knife. When used, it throws rapid knives that stop in midair similar to the Stellar Knife. However, when the knifes hit an enemy, they deal a similar effect to the Lionfish or Daybreak, with the enemy taking constant extra damage.
Why: The Stellar Knife is one of my favorite weapons to use in a rogue playthrough and it's a bit sad that there's no upgrade to it, as it's incredibly fun to use.

[civic pond]

But its useless

[zenith hazel]

sure

[civic pond]

Explain

[zenith hazel]

rogue should get more options for DoG

[mystic sandal]

it's meant to be a reference to jojo, with dio constantly saying useless according to the subtitles

the stellar knife was also a reference to dio

so i'm just keeping up the reference

[civic pond]

Oh ...

Ok this is epic.

[proven tide]

[smoky wagon]

i thought it was a reference to the useless knife from undertale

[fickle spruce]

real knife when

[dry stag]

I like it

[normal thorn]

Thats the final version of the scepter

[civic pond]

big

[ivory heart]

Spawn Points
A system designed to only spawn certain powerful enemies once the player reaches a certain level. The more spawn points you have, you will encounter more strong enemies.
1 Defense = 5 SP
1 Max HP = 1 SP
If in Hardmode, you gain +40 SP.
After beating Moon Lord, you gain +50 SP (+90 SP total)
After beating Yharon, you gain +100 SP (+190 SP total)

[novel pebble]

So uh

Progression/Post-Bosses enemies???

[ivory heart]

No

Enemies like Cnidrion will not spawn until you reach a certain number of spawn points

[normal thorn]

That makes sense

[hollow idol]

na id rather rush cnidrion, we had an update based around not locking bosses behind things so they probably wont add it to normal enemies and mini bosses

[hollow shell]

@ivory heart Interesting idea. Not sure if Calamity would revamp the whole enemy spawning system though.
I will say that you gotta change that name though. "Spawn Points" are already a thing, to refer to where you respawn

[smoky wagon]

Theres a mod to craft the paintball gun

I just use that

because lazy devs never implement easy QoL changes

[dry stag]

Astrum minimis is doomed...

[hollow shell]

(The only suggestions Fab has implemented have been easy QoL changes)

[radiant meadow]

GSS tho

[hollow shell]

(True)

[dry stag]

What's GSS and QoL?

[hollow shell]

GSS is Great Sand Shark, a Calamity miniboss.
It and its items were originally from a suggestion.

QoL means Quality of Life.
Something to make the player's life easier / more convenient

[sinful violet]

great sand shark, quality of life

or what rover said

[dry stag]

Thx

Gaster
Drops from polterghast with a rare chance

A yoyo

I just need to figure out what it does

Good idea?

[hollow shell]

Name first function later
200 IQ process

[sinful violet]

no because the only idea here is an undertale reference

[normal thorn]

Lol true^

[sinful violet]

by extension not really being your idea

function before references and names please

[normal thorn]

shoots gaster blasters at nearby enemies

There is already a yoyo made out of blood cores

Its very powerful

And suggesting pre DOG weapons is silly

Because they have to be very balanced

[ashen warren]

polterghast yoyo gave me an idea

[dry stag]

No actually the undertale reference was just something I stumbled upon

I've been working on the function for a bit now

[sinful violet]

then why would you ask about if it's a good idea or not without presenting the actual idea

[ashen warren]

and this mod doesn't need any more undertale references imo

[dry stag]

The yoyo fires out a slowly rotating beam that pierces enemies and blocks and doesn't target anything. When the yoyo itself kills an enemy they explode into damage Spectre orbs. The orbs and beam do less damage than the actual yoyo

[normal thorn]

Lol gaster blaster

[dry stag]

no it's the beam from an older version of polter

[normal thorn]

[ashen warren]

here's a different, weird, idea:

[normal thorn]

Yeaaaaaaaa we can call it a beam

[ashen warren]

fuse a yoyo and a grappling hook as a polter yoyo

[normal thorn]

???

[dry stag]

?¿?¿

[normal thorn]

And how it works

[ashen warren]

yes

[normal thorn]

And what if u have a hook in inv

Equipped

[dry stag]

Grapple yoyo¿¿

[ashen warren]

no, it'd be a weapon that could grapple like a hook

[normal thorn]

Well than u cant call it a yoyo anymore

[dry stag]

O no this again

[normal thorn]

Because the point of yoyos is to a i m

[ashen warren]

it wouldn't deploy the same as grappling hooks

[dry stag]

People have asked for a hook flail

[normal thorn]

Either it would have no damage or be op

[ashen warren]

you would have to drag it to the grappling point, and then you could fire another and possible get a bonus

[normal thorn]

Too complicated already

[dry stag]

^

[ashen warren]

it would suffer in a place with no grappling points

[normal thorn]

[ashen warren]

basically a bad yoyo and a bad grappling hook, unless it's being used as both

[quiet abyss]

A unique idea isn’t always good
A yoyo that forces you to move it in an awkward way like that is both going to be a pain to use and difficult to code

[dry stag]

The thing about grappling weapons is if you miss when using it as a weapon u go flying into the enemy you fired at

[ashen warren]

exactly

[normal thorn]

Lol gl dodging attacks with that

[dry stag]

This sounds very awkward to use

[normal thorn]

Who would use it lol

[ashen warren]

the whole point is having it awkward to use

[normal thorn]

?????????

[ashen warren]

but powerful once it is used correctly

it'd require actual skill

[normal thorn]

U have no time to use it correctly during dog fight u will focus on dodging

[quiet abyss]

I can understand mixing two different stuffs to create something unique, but it should be something that’s actually workable and fun to use
A weapon that can fling players into the enemies face is far too risky to use for most players and just doesn’t sound fun.

[ashen warren]

alright

[quiet abyss]

Take the average players into account as well, not just the very skilled ones

[dry stag]

My idea was originally a vortex portal beam that lashed out at nearby enemies. Then somebody mentioned the old polter's beam and the gaster happened

[normal thorn]

We already have last prism and its upgrade

Pls no more beams

[dry stag]

I literally just came up with that name

And why no more beams?

[normal thorn]

Theyre boring

And theres enough of them

Like yharons prism dark prism and last prism

Whatever theyre called

[dry stag]

Thats three

[normal thorn]

Thats enough for post moonlord

[dry stag]

I mean, charge blaster, but it's absolutely useless

[normal thorn]

And the dark one coming right after polterghast i beleive

[dry stag]

This is a beam that comes from a yoyo

[normal thorn]

Whats the point of melee weapons then?

Just add a magic beam to wooden sword

[dry stag]

Mana-less mage weapons

[pliant bone]

I mean, do you want to True melee SCal?

[dry stag]

¿¿¿

[normal thorn]

Hes talking about a freaking beam like last prism

Attached to a yoyo

Pre DOG

[lost agate]

Terraria devs never really gave melee a proper mechanic for true melee to not be basically suicide, so we have to deal with projectiles on swords, also boi that idea sounds glitchy af

[pliant bone]

Why not pre provi tbh

[dry stag]

Aight I'm gonna be back with a pre provi yoyo

Scrap the gaster

[normal thorn]

[lost agate]

Theres terrarian soooo

[dry stag]

Bye

[normal thorn]

[quiet abyss]

I wouldn’t mind 1 more yoyo pre provi tbh
A yoyo dropped by bumblebirb or profaned guardian could work

[lost agate]

Or an elemental yoyo

[quiet abyss]

There’s already a bunch of elemental stuffs imo

[radiant meadow]

another yoyo is needed, yes

[sinful violet]

if anyone says chicken ball yoyo i'm teleporting behind them and snapping their neck

[normal thorn]

Yeah elemental one would be good

Chicked ball yoyo

[radiant meadow]

yoyo dropping from birb or donuts would be kinda weird though

[lost agate]

Nugget yoyo

[radiant meadow]

since donuts aren't meant to have weapon drops

and birb already drops a melee weapon, gilded proboscis

[quiet abyss]

Or a space themed yoyo crafted with exodium clusters and luminite bars

[normal thorn]

Exodium stuff is for accessories

[radiant meadow]

starmada?

[quiet abyss]

Nah, starmada use exodium clusters too

So exodium clusters can be used for weapons too

[lost agate]

Just dont make consumables with clusters and we are good

[quiet abyss]

Tbf exodium clusters have a crafting recipe now so they’re no longer a limited resource

[lost agate]

Oh they do?

[sinful violet]

mhm

[quiet abyss]

Luminite ores + all lunar fragments, ye

[ashen warren]

Alright, alternative idea for polter yoyo:
when deployed, each yoyo will have a phantom version coming from the opposite direction of it, with slightly higher damage than the normal yoyos, encouraging the player to point it away from the target for more damage

[lost agate]

Ah ok

[earnest raptor]

Exodium Throw
Unique melee weapon
Post-DoG

Looks like yoyo, but...
On using instead of regular yoyo creates a gray forcefield, which radius depends on White String's existing. This forcefield ignores immunity frames and on hit creates blobs of exodium energy from edges of screen, which homes to target.

Craft: 35 Exodium Clusters + 8 Cosmilite Bars @ Draedon's Forge.

[sinful violet]

m

[terse sundial]

wow

[sinful violet]

the illustration is a little distracting

[terse sundial]

^

[foggy kindle]

Wtf is that even lol

[sinful violet]

also at that point the weapon's not even a yoyo

[terse sundial]

I would keep the image out of the suggestion

[lost agate]

also like obliterator exists

[terse sundial]

it's a good concept though

[quiet abyss]

A yoyo that acts like a forcefield...?
That reminds me of thorium’s healer class scythe weapons that spin in a circle more than anything

[dry stag]

I think thomas would like to see that

[ashen warren]

any feedback on my idea above that thing

[quiet abyss]

Neat, albeit a bit plain

[lost agate]

btw why is everyone so into yoyos out of sudden

[dry stag]

Thomas, or CCC guy

[lost agate]

its just glorified magic missiles

[sinful violet]

because they were brought up and someone said we needed something more around post ML tier

[dry stag]

yes it is

[lost agate]

oh ok

im surprised nobody has suggested an entire yoyo class

[earnest raptor]

Because without Yoyos melee will be ♿

[quiet abyss]

Eh? That’s not even close to true

[dry stag]

So... I need an idea of what materials are in post ml but pre provi so that I have an idea for what theme to use