yeah
#suggestions-discussion
rare lake
lost agate
imagine the size of that recipe 
proven tide
fourteen to seventeen items 
ashen warren
So my suggestion was semi loved atleast
rare lake
My question is why is it comic sans
proven tide
sh
paper torrent
Neat suggestion.
opaque grail
I want a 3 page long picture that is nothing but biome materials to make biome blade
proven tide
welp, time to start including essences and souls
opaque grail
snow, ice, boreal wood, ice essence, everything biome related lmao
also all 3 forms of evil/hallow ice
proven tide
time for silt
pliant bone
Mfw im in the wrong channel
rare lake
yeah im sorry but i cant delete it
at the time i forgot it counted as shitposting
:/
frank stratus
lost agate
what isnt op?
radiant meadow
Luxor's ignore some i frames
open prairie
o ok
radiant meadow
But it's really not that op and doesn't need a nerf
final ivy
blood pact op
small talon
do you mean 2000? 20000 is out of calamitys reach
final ivy
i combine it with a fargosoul item
lost agate
i doubt thats clam only
final ivy
mmm
lost agate
you barely reach 1k hp without pact
final ivy
well then you arent using it to your full potental
lost agate
what did you use then?
final ivy
the prism heart
small talon
if you were to use nothing but calamity, its is very hard to hit 2000 health, suggestions should not be given/taken because of another mods influence
lost agate
prism heart?
lost agate
prism heart is not calamity
final ivy
using powerful health accsecories and yes it is
tight gorge
It isn't
lost agate
!wiki prism heart
red stormBOT
https://calamitymod.gamepedia.com/Prism_Shard
Not the correct result? Use !wiki page prism heart for a direct link or !wiki search prism heart for a list of all hits.
lost agate
see
final ivy
the wiki isnt updated
open prairie
yes of course
wanton surge
screenshot?
open prairie
lost agate
its so updated they even get new info before everyone sometimes
wanton surge
open prairie
makes sense
final ivy
Attacks inflict the Crush Depths debuff. While in the Abyss, 15% increased max life. Lowers the darkness effect of the Abyss
lost agate
that only boost hp when in abyss anyway
proven tide
what the fuck is the prism heart
looking it up doesn't show anything at all
and i mean on google, not the wiki
stoopd™ suggestion, de-star
lost agate
I`ll get that typo checked
wanton surge
ty ty ty
smoky wagon
@proven tide brimstone slag needs a titanium/adamantine pickaxe to mine
So the biome blade should be made stronger if it were to require that
lost agate
yeah
proven tide
I'm aware, but you already need a mythril/orichalcum anvil, so it's not too much of a step up progression
half an hour of mining, likely less, and you're set
smoky wagon
but the current biome blade is pretty weak but easy to get
smoky wagon
making it alot more of a hassle to get while not buffing it seems odd
make it worth the time to collect the materials
proven tide
well, the various new biome effects already add towards that, no?
smoky wagon
The debuffs are slightly helpful at best
It shouldnt be the only thing the weapon has
proven tide
tadah
pliant bone
Tbh, Biome blade is pretty much in a garbage place atm
tight gorge
Does anyone even use Biome Blade and True Biome Blade at all? You can include Omega Biome Blade as well.
lost agate
Omega biome blade i use
The other two, no not really
A single projectile weapon seems kinda lacking with all the other fancy options
Like compare true biome blade to the behemoth that is true ark
sand umbra
I mean, even if you were to add ingredients, you'd only be able to add 3 at max.
The maximum number of unique crafting ingredients in a recipe is 14. o3o
Personally, I'd see Murky Paste, Sulphurous Sand, and Dungeon Brick being the three items that should be added.
Encompassing the Jungle, Sulphurous Sea, and Dungeon respectively.
queen delta
Good suggestion, but could be formatted better
Replace Feller of Evergreens with Mythril/Orichalcum Axe in the Axe of Purity recipe.
Why? The Feller of Evergreens is already used to craft the Grax, so replacing the Feller of Evergreens with the Mythril/Orichalcum axe should fill in that void and leave the Feller of Evergreens to the Grax recipe.
sterile moon
true but its simple enough
queen delta
You can just replace your suggestion with this
sterile moon
really?
sterile moon
pickaxe?
queen delta
Oh mb lol
vague olive
"Add more stuff to vanilla things" we need more high quality suggestions like this
bitter drift
so i suggested this 2 days agaon or something like that
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ofmCETV9m-Ac6STZE_5Q9f9qDb3Ze_1R-2FINZ-CFfw/edit?usp=sharing
it didn't go so well
can i salvage anything from that?
placid moth
Can you wait a while more before deciding to post a new google docs suggestion
Like, a couple days
bitter drift
no i'm not post a new doc
just wanting to know if there is anything salvageable from here
unkempt patio
Is there any reason as to why there are no calamity hooks?
Are they hard to make or do they appear as pretty useöess?
Because im brewing myself a hook idea up and before i post it one day i would like to know the reason as to why therr are no hooks.
placid moth
Probably because we have wings and shit in hardmode+
Plus, the only reason I can think of for having a new, better hook is for Defiled Soul nohitters.
bitter drift
Armageddon
placid moth
Never mind I am stupid
unkempt patio
Ah.
Thats good to know i guess
bitter drift
ok plus there good hooks already
queen delta
Bat hook is already a huge help for us defiled nohitters
queen delta
Unless the hook can reach and pull faster than bat hook, i dont really care for a clamity hook
Bat hook’s my favorite
queen delta
Bat hook 100%
placid moth
Okay then.
queen delta
I dont need a hook to go circular motion lol
placid moth
Do you get dq'd based on the type of hooks used
queen delta
No
placid moth
Ah, okay, cool.
placid moth
So, Diamond > Dual > Bat/Spooky/Christmas
placid moth
Oh, goodie bags.
queen delta
Ye
paper torrent
Yatagarasu. I remember a GD demon level called Flight of the Yatagarasu. Though I don't play it anymore.
Anyways I like the ides of colorblind mode.
hollow shell
If the problem is only that the healing and damaging cocoon flames share the same recolored sprite, then they can just be given unique (but similar) resprites
frail mantle
that'd be nice
hollow shell
What other examples are there, where colorblind people may come into trouble?
It'd be better to come up with simpler solutions to any problem cases rather than adding a colorblind mode, which sounds like it'd be difficult to do
smoky wagon
Destroyer lasers maybe
vital nymph
Beastial Pickaxe
mighty mica
You could also use the summoners association mod to show how many minions are available/currently summoned.
mental path
who tf doesnt count their max summons even
ashen warren
count hard for bran
gloomy hazel
Or maybe instead of adding a command to summon all minions, how about holding the left mouse boutton so it spawns them all on the second swing?
That makes it more simple to use
ashen warren
That'd be hard for people who wanna use different minions at the same tier
gaunt gazelle
left click once, left click twice, 2 minions summoned
hold left click max slots summoned
distant gyro
@gaunt gazelle afaik there's already several of those in calamityconfigs
"ProficiencyEnabled", "ExpertPillarEnemyKillCountReduction", "ExpertDebuffDurationReduction", "ExpertChilledWaterRemoval" for instance
distant gyro
well, the first half is gone
at least
If that's what you refer to as "the levelling system"
frail mantle
worm scarf and stormbow etc are changed because they're too strong
vague olive
Normal enemies having homing projectiles is a bit dumb
Also spectre slime would just fall through blocks
elfin maple
how would you make the spectre slime work
make it go through tiles in mid-jump but not otherwise?
but then it could never leave the jump state
there's probably a way
but i don't know it
queen sail
@gaunt gazelle if a vanilla thing got adjusted, chances are it’s because of how wack vanilla’s balance is
You can get good fishing gear preboss and fish for a pickaxe that mines hellstone
Stormbow is a gold mine weapon in comparison to the corrupt/crimson mimic weapon drops
gaunt gazelle
it is though
elfin maple
yeah
frail mantle
no it's not
gaunt gazelle
its literally throwing
queen sail
Hey i saw you in fargo’s server talkingn about this
spiral olive
more is planned for rogue in the future
queen sail
elfin maple
yes it is
spiral olive
and pretty sure those rogue suggestions just get removed
bitter topaz
oh my god not another one of these
spiral olive
gaunt gazelle
thorium throwing class is a bigger change from throwing then rogue
bitter topaz
into the dumpsterfire of mod notifs it goes
anyway, rogue isn't a throwing rebranding
it's intended to be entirely seperate
frail mantle
btw Rogue-Throwing conversion is on the Don'ts document iirc
bitter topaz
and it's going to be heavily expanded upon in the future
queen sail
Chances are that when 1.3.6 comes around and removes throwing, modders will still have access to throwing code
But otherwise, the change takes effect
zenith hazel
and they will throw that away
queen sail
So unless the modders actually input the code again, shurikens, bone javelins, throwing knives, etc
Will all be ranged
crystal osprey
@elfin maple I would think that if the player was in the same room as it, it would work like a normal slime, but if the player was seperated by a wall, it would simply phase through the wall almost like the slime god does if you get too far
frail mantle
so, modified Biome Mimic ai?
elfin maple
hmm
lost agate
Seems like someone forgot throwing is gonna die soon
ashen warren
it'll live on in our hearts
young fog
lost agate
It will live, but as ranged weapons 
zenith hazel
as if melee doesn’t have as much as ranged
it has way too many weapons in its arsenal
frail mantle
it should have been developed more instead of just dying in Hardmode in vanilla
zenith hazel
♿
young fog
you forgot that mage exists 
queen sail
Ranged but with an alternate ammo source 
ashen warren
Summoner
queen sail
I’m pretty sure i remember someone saying that throwing is basically ranged but you throw shit
ashen warren
Clicking rehab tbh
elfin maple
Summoner is like okay here these bois will fight for you
queen sail
Most of terraria tends to have weapons that eventually focus into “You do damage from a distance”
Meowmere is a generic projectile sword and star wrath is just an icicle staff without mana
Solar Eruption reaches half the length of ML’s metaphorical penis and daybreak is a bootleg throwing weapon
smoky wagon
Because as your mobility increases so should the effective range of your weapons
queen sail
Hell i’m pretty sure the only late hardmode vanilla sword that rewards actual melee is the horseman’s blade
elfin maple
Having short ranged weapons that reward taking risks is cool
spiral olive
lol
ashen warren
oh no
elfin maple
What if there was an enemy/boss that deflected projectiles
how do you not know about keybrand
it's a giant key
to be fail you'd kinda need to be melee class
queen sail
||@elfin maple it’s a joke about how forgettable of a sword it is||
ashen warren
key to understanding that it's a bad weapon
elfin maple
oh
queen sail
You probably already have a terra blade
elfin maple
i like the horseman's blade tho
ashen warren
Almost like the entire yoyo class
queen sail
Yoyos
ashen warren
subclass, fine
queen sail
More like
ashen warren
yono
elfin maple
the yoyo subclass is a thing that exists
ashen warren
no it doesn't
ashen warren
how do I Lacerator
elfin maple
terraria yoyos act more like what would happen if you tied a string to a buzzsaw
like
ashen warren
Or if a flail was good
queen sail
Like doing a yoyo playthrough in vanilla and you’re at post plant
elfin maple
ok
ashen warren
what was the suggestion again, we just went to bashing classes
queen sail
The game either recommends a yoyo you get from dungeon enemies that does a fair amount of damage
ashen warren
or moth
ashen warren
just use the Chik tbh
elfin maple
it's pretty good
queen sail
The more i look at vanilla’s weapons and their placement
The more i see how kinda
Wack it is sometimes
young fog
this is getting a bit offtopic tbh
queen sail
Tbh
elfin maple
what were we even talking about
queen sail
Uhhhh
elfin maple
throwing class?
queen sail
Ranger = ♿ ?
ashen warren
ye
elfin maple
to be fair i made one of the most powerful weapons possible in ranger class
it literally kills anything instantly
dry stag
Hey the adrenaline suggestion got used
fickle spruce
i don't think people pop many godslayer revives in a fight
signal prairie
^
young fog
depends how long it is
young fog
thing is its great during br
br lasts around 15 mins, thats around 20 revives you're getting
hollow shell
@elfin maple May wanna add "currently" in that first sentence
proven tide
^
hollow shell
@ashen warren What do you mean?
More true melee weapons? Or do you want it expanded to non-true melee weapons?
elfin maple
ok
worthy raptor
adding it to non true melee weapons would make it a bit silly wouldn't it
like it already kinda makes true melee actually viable in the late game by itself I think
hollow shell
(Its whole point is to enhance true melee, make it more viable)
but
just edit your suggestion to clarify that's what you mean, and it'll be good
zenith hazel
@bitter drift you mean light discs?
hollow shell
(instead of "Hallowed Disks")
lost agate
@ashen warren dmg does scale with weapon, and it only works with true melee
or any melee weapon that doesnt shot projectiles
proven tide
@maiden eagle being a modified Queen Bee, the Plaguebringer is female making grinding super-convenient ignores the point of grinding
Yes you want the strongest and optimal items
queen sail
Make rare item easier to get
Grinding and farming is the entire point of Terraria
queen sail
Why do you think rod is so rare in vanilla
In pre patch 1.2, it was outright broken
Despite how rare it was, they had to give it a debuff because you could traverse the entire world in under a minute by spamming it
If you want powerful shit, work for it
It’s that simple
proven tide
omega henk brain chad iq
paper torrent
I love how a decent chunk of suggestions are either really bad, seems like they'd be in the list of banned suggestions, Or nerfs. Though a greater portion are actually good. Crabulon dropping Shroomite Bars post-Plantera is one I really love.
Oh, and another one that should not be suggested: Making Rare Item Variants/Legendary drops easier to get. People know they can kill a boss, use Defiled Rune, then open treasure bags for Legendary drops. But Rare Item Variants are rare for a reason.
proven tide
Someone should suggest my suggestion elite idea for me 👀
a role designating trusted high iq suggestors
Just a thought
hollow shell
Not sure why the rare item variants are excluded from Defiled Rune, actually
Defiled Rune's whole god damn point is to make rare items drop more often at the cost of your wings and added crits, which is quite a challenge especially later
proven tide
Ice rod providence is an ass-saver
queen sail
@hollow shell is having definitive edition rune increase the drop rate of RIVs only by a percentage of what it usually increases the drop chance to sound okay?
Because while rivs are meant to be rare, so are legendary weapons
And they’re affected by definition symbol too
hollow shell
That'd be quite a subtle difference if it's going to raise to anything less than 5%
queen sail
Well for boss rivs it’d probably be that
Current riv drop chance from bosses is 2.5%
Def rune would probably increase it to 5%
Which makes it as equally attainable as a legendary wep
hollow shell
I guess yeah
Makes sense
radiant meadow
@spiral olive what would happen to your max hp if you fucked up silva revive when you get revived with potential yharon lore rework?
would it stay the same or become back at your true max?
hollow shell
raisse the 0.5% and 1% ones to something like 2.5%
and the 2.5% ones to 5%
would prevent a billion Carnages from dropping
only half a billion
spiral olive
hmmm i'd probably say going back to true max would be the most reasonable choice so you don't get cucked with like 300hp with no more revive
radiant meadow
minimum is 400 hp now though lol
lucid marsh
I know my most recent suggestion is similar to another recent one but it’s not the same, it’s more simple
hollow shell
PBG's lore reduces life regen
hollow shell
Yharon's lore sets your flight time to about 2 hours 15 minutes
PBG's lore multiplies your current flight time by 1.25
(unfortunately, Yharon's lore is processed after PBG's, so they don't stack)
queen sail
That’s uh
I’m pretty sure 15 minutes is longer than the flight mastery soul
Which, to say the least, is pretty uh
:woah:
wanton surge
ashen warren
Im not suggesting completely new bosses btw.
hollow shell
Re-adding removed content is on the list of Suggestion Don'ts
in pins
Also, the Boss Rush exists now
It could be strange to have two versions of buffed Yharon, buffed Providence(?), buffed DoG, and buffed Cultist
ashen warren
Does re-working them count
hollow shell
In order for them to be re-worked, they would need to be re-added, so yes
ashen warren
Btw they wouldn't just do more damage and have more health but actually act differently and do different things if this WAS allowed
But its not
queen sail
I doubt the devs would want to work on what were essentially refights
When they’re already trying to touch up gaydon
ashen warren
I would rather have them work on the actual bosses than the concept bosses
ashen warren
Yharim>Re-Worked Future Bosses
queen delta
The future bosses were removed cuz they didnt quite fit in the game iirc
marsh gust
yea so if you could remove the suggestion please do so, since its in the donts already. it doesnt matter if you rework it or not, its still adding it back
queen delta
No matter how different they made ancient doomsayer to LC, it would still feel the same
We can't just focus on the lore only
ashen warren
I deleted it
queen delta
Most people that has ever played calamity dont care about lore
ashen warren
Lunatic Cultist isn't even that could of a boss ind the first place
elfin maple
yeah
ashen warren
I can see what you guys mean
queen sail
Masomode Lunatic Cultist is an absolute pain in comparison to doomsayer
hollow shell
eat pillar, motherfucker
queen sail
Permanent 5 cultists that clone his attacks + projectile spam + debuff spam = eat shit
Then again the other half of masomeme is debuff spam so
hollow shell
This is true
proven tide
@silk lantern it's been suggested before
proven tide
Might've been checked
hollow shell
Doesn't need to be removed.
silk lantern
Oops
hollow shell
Bluecheck exists
silk lantern
What is that?
hollow shell
A reaction given to suggestions which have been sent in before
☑
silk lantern
Oh
hollow shell
Still valid.
If that suggestion also reaches the criteria for being sent in, then the original suggestion is marked as being highly suggested
silk lantern
Should I put it back? I already removed it
hollow shell
You can put it back yeah
mystic sandal
hollow shell
heh
hollow shell
@sacred thorn Could you add a reason why?
(I woulda also asked you to add a reason to your last suggestion but I was too late when I saw it)
@ashen warren Should clarify you mean this server's icon
(Not sure why this is the second time that's been suggested. The speed seems fine to me)
lost agate
@signal prairie i have tried destroyer, and i can ensure you its not that excessive yes they spawn a bit often but not to the point where you move for 2 seconds and another barrage spawns
queen delta
I guess maybe slower flames = more menacing flames
signal prairie
I got 6 to spawn the moment I moved in one Direction
lost agate
Thats one barrage yes
signal prairie
even when there is no barrage
lost agate
Then how is it not a barrage if its 6 lasers?
They aint synced with the red and blue lasers if thats what you mean
So, im sticking to what i said, its not that excessive
signal prairie
I dashed one direction, to the left, with no Barrage going and I was swarmed with 6 lasers
lost agate
Because they aint synced
signal prairie
I don't think you understand what I'm saying, I know that they aren't synced. What I'm saying is, you can't move 20 blocks in one direction before you get swarmed with homing lasers. Even with no barrage.
lost agate
And im saying i have tried it and they dont spawn that ofteb
And the desync is what makes them appear when theres no so called barrage
I do agree they need a nerf but i see that info you gave as a bit excessive
Cuz i ensure you 20 blocks is like a second worth of running
queen delta
Just be me and grab unicorn mount and keep running in one direction lol
Also i never knew moving horizontally makes green lasers come
signal prairie
does Unicorn outrun the lasers?
queen delta
not outrun, but almost as fast as them
so just simply jumping and rodding will be enough to make em not touch you
icy cove
Does the eidolon have a tooltip besides consumable?
tepid root
it doesnt have something that says it summons the cultist is all i know
icy cove
Alright ima make a suggestion then
placid moth
Weapon : Jungle Ultistaff
Mechanics : Rapidly fires 7-8 plague fangs that have slight homing capabilities, pass through solid blocks and release a swarm of bees that deal ⅓ of the weapon’s damage. Inflicts Plague, Poisoned and Venom debuff for 10 seconds.
Recipe :
10 Solar Fragment
5 Luminite Bar
The Swarmer
Venom Staff
Plague Staff
Reason : A Mage counterpart to the Plague Keeper and a reason for keeping Plague Hive for Post ML bosses, as well as to increase variety for Providence and its three little chicken nuggets instead of simply just Genisis (Do people use Elemental Ray). I think it is also a waste of potential to lock Swarmer, Plague Hive and Staff to just hardmode when bees can be further amplified in Post ML.
Comments ?
quiet abyss
A neat suggestion, but I'm not entirely sure what to think about the swarmer having an upgrade immediately after ML 🤔
Personally I'd make it require uelibloom instead of luminite to make it post-provi and remove solar frags from the recipe.
But this may be just me, since galactus blade exists and is an upgrade of the star wrath that's available on the same tier as star wrath
radiant meadow
tactical shotgun > conclave crossfire > conference call 
@icy cove no tooltip is intended to be given to the eidolon tablet.
It is meant to be a surprise item.
fickle spruce
@maiden eagle plaguebringer is a female btw
placid moth
I feel that mage has plenty of viable options Post-Providence, Dark Spark, Divine Retribution, Mistlepine etc.
Making an extra one would be rather redundant, because Mistlepine already has that rapid fire, high dps.
bitter drift
is there any criticism on my suggestion (light and darkness disks)
pliant bone
Post-Provi has already a ton of mage options.
wide patrol
gaunt gazelle
theres no viable bee options post ML though
radiant meadow
plague keeper though?
frail mantle
^
radiant meadow
how does luxor's gift break with certain weapons?
lost agate
Its supposedly absurdly strong with stuff like kunai
radiant meadow
you get a big range boost but it isn't broken iirc
you get pitiful dps if you try doing it with mycoroot
I'm surprised people only want to nerf Luxor's and not unstable prism
lost agate
It supposedly adds like 50% more dps which i doubt
hollow shell
Last playthrough I did, my friend had Luxor's and it nearly doubled his DPS with almost any weapon he used
lost agate
O really?
Maybe its the fact it ignores some i frames
And if it gets i frames then it will most probably become trash
ashen warren
i 99% wont post this but i thought it was cool
`Joycons
"1990 - 2019"
Shoots 2(or 1 of the 2) projectiles (1 blue 1 red)
Blue Projectile inflicts frost burn and has a small chance to freeze enemies
Red Projectile inflicts a burning effect and has a chance to make enemies explode into blood orbs
Why?
- Rip Etika
- This could be used as a mana weapon or a rogue weapon (rogue would throw either a red or blue joycon and magic would shoot 2 blue and red orbs)`
gusty geode
I was just gonna suggest adding his name to the list that can use the Murasama or some other locked weapon early, but a unique weapon for him would also work
radiant meadow
I would be careful of suggesting stuff related to Etika so soon
it would be a sensitive subject
also, it would be crystal most likely, not murasama
Murasama is strictly reserved for "Sam" and "Samuel Rodrigues"
hollow shell
Even with Yharim's Crystal it'd be weird, because Etika never knew about Calamity or was a developer, which are the names allowed for the crystal
radiant meadow
a dedicated weapon would be better, like Halibut Cannon
hollow shell
mhm
radiant meadow
but as I said, it's best to wait on the subject
past cape
Would be an interesting rogue subclass for invasions
and those are just examples since events would apply to those for their best use
hollow shell
I wouldn't've mentioned this if I wasn't doing a Thorium playthrough with a friend going thrower
https://thoriummod.gamepedia.com/Obsidian_Striker
torn cliff
Lol
paper torrent
Now that I look at it, a previous suggestion of mine; the Exo Material Manipulator may not be too good of an idea? I mean, I got 80 stars, buuuut I am just, thinking over the idea, regardless of the stars it has and just think: Would walking a few extra tiles be that bad?
foggy kindle
Yes, also, it helps with the massive scattering crafting tables
paper torrent
I had a "hall of crafting" before I used Magic Storage.
I kinda wonder what it means when a dev makes a suggestion.
foggy kindle
it means dev's suggestion needs the majority to vote for their ideas too
paper torrent
Wait, the dev role is for other developers besides Calamity, right?
gloomy hazel
Okay, I think of a mount that could grant the role of a tank, literally. I might have to think hard to make it decent enough so it doesn't make it too impractical with movements, otherwhise it would be left aside very quickly.
wish me luck
hollow shell
Dev role is only for Calamity devs
tepid root
I only use mounts for boss fights 
dry stag
I just realized... I'm gonna have to make a short sword alternative for all the biome blades if I want to make a 'shiv of shivs'
tepid root
no dont
dry stag
Why not?
proven tide
@silk lantern might like to clarify those mechanics a bit
I mean, I know what you mean, I came up with half of it, but
proven tide
3-6 swings, perhaps?
YAA biome blade suggestion reached 90 stars OWO
@worn salmon that's been suggested a bunch
yours is the eleventh time
worn salmon
lol
dry stag
Feck I've only come up with crimson, corruption, hallow, jungle, forest, ice, underground/caverns, hell/dungeon, and ocean
You know what, this'll have to do
Cause I don't even know where to start with abyss, piss sea, or crags
Or infection
Well. Done with that part, I guess
tight gorge
Is the Shiv of Shivs supposed to be an exo weapon? If so, it's in the "Suggestion 'Don'ts'"
dry stag
What's an exo weapon?
tight gorge
Anything that uses auric ore
dry stag
Its supposed to be a short sword alternative to the ark of the cosmos
And the ark of the cosmos uses auric ore in it's recipe. Damn.
Why is exo weapon a don't?
Just curious
tight gorge
"These kinds of items/weapons take far too long to make and are generally not what the devs want to be doing with their time. It is more preferable to be concise and original with your suggestions, anyway."
dry stag
Ah.
smoky wagon
what would be peoples thoughts on an item to summon betsy without going through the event
dry stag
Yes! That would be great!
silk lantern
Yeah I would like that
I would like a cultist summoning thing that doesn’t start the lunar event if there isn’t one yet
queen delta
@dry stag There'll be a next level of shiv coming soon
paper torrent
Suspicious Controllers. I love it.
placid moth
:hahayes: screw polter's clone ngl
marsh gust
@naive tide is that a joke suggestion?
naive tide
No
tepid root
what
arctic wren
marsh gust
it looks like a joke suggestion to me, please remove it. besides, golfing isnt even in the game yet
thank you
tepid root
Calamitas challenges you to a deadly game of golf! Accept?
ashen warren
Hmmm...... i kinda tempted to not like the meme pact rare variant
Not a meme in slightest. 😄
Just something to help with DoG on Death.
pliant bone
I guess it could help with DoG unless some guy happen to be troubling on the laser walls
ashen warren
not the rare variant but the actual item is an absolute meme
mental path
deific amulet + cross necklace grants 1.67 seconds of invincibility
also this item would be very overpowered against bosses post-providence, as you won't get hit a lot
frail mantle
isn't the ting with nearly all post-ML bosses that they can usually combo hit you though?
maybe not on the Sentinels, but Polter, DoG, Yharon and SCal all have a lot of projectiles coming to tear your asshole open at the same time
mental path
yeah but you won't get hit twice
and scal kills you in 2 hits anyway so not much of a difference
and with deific amulet + cross necklace the 1.7 seconds aren't much
it's just 1/3 of a second after the invincibility ends
frail mantle
yea that's true
wraith adder
on the note of my previous suggestion re performance: i got my hands on the 64bit terraria overhaul and the elemental blaster can still drop the game to under 1fps
ashen warren
terraria overhaul
wraith adder
what about it
ashen warren
overhaul as in overhaul mod??
wraith adder
the one that's modular and has huge renderer improvements that i was using exclusively, yes
ashen warren
blame that instead of here
wraith adder
er. it was doing that before toverhaul too
ashen warren
still overhaul breaks things
wraith adder
okay, so. the broken thing is still broken
hollow shell
@ashen warren That suggestion got sent in the last time you suggested it. No need to post it again
original's got a green check
ashen warren
i dont even.........
frail mantle
why would you need an 1 HP mode
ashen warren
oh no not this shit
autumn lion
great suggestion @earnest raptor it sounds to be nice for players who want a real challenge in calamity
distant gyro
@queen zealot 
ashen warren
@marsh gust help
distant gyro
meme suggestion cease
frail mantle
^
queen zealot
what
queen zealot
oof
echo horizon
LORDE died
frail mantle
the lorde is dead in calamity, and i hope it stays that way forever
ashen warren
arma but even more extreme
ruby cobalt
@eager palm free warn iirc
autumn lion
arma but even more cooler
frail mantle
eager palm
@queen zealot no meme suggestions, read the rules
queen zealot
echo horizon
new suggestion
ashen warren
A rare variant of Arch Amaryllis that drops post plantera???
hollow shell
Are you also suggesting that it be nerfed to fit that tier?
frail mantle
i mean, the Thorn Blossom is a RIV of the Arch Amaryllis, which is post-Cultist
distant gyro
or is it like dropped after Cultist
hollow shell
Making it a riv of Gleaming Magnolia instead?
frail mantle
aren't RIVs meant to be dropped at around the same time as their counterparts?
distant gyro
Maybe dropped by Plantera after Cultist is dead
Or just make it a RIV of Magnolia yea
hollow shell
Yes, Prov
ashen warren
now it good
hollow shell
Really not a great suggestion, the tiering is more important than the aesthetic/theme
but it's valid
earnest raptor
@hollow shell
Is that not Armageddon?
More extreme and non-cheesable.
frail mantle
is it really necessary, though
hollow shell
I feel like it's too similar to Arma to warrant its own mode
ashen warren
^ what prov said
hollow shell
It's just another insta-kill challenge, except now you can get fucked by thorns and dart traps
ashen warren
or fall damage if early game
hollow shell
True, could just cheat in SCal's lore
sterile moon
so the abyss affect affects custom maps
im thinking of suggesting that it be disabled on any world not generated with calamity
earnest raptor
@hollow shell redesigned.
sterile moon
ping me if you would like to discuss that
radiant meadow
It sounds like you're just making an additional mode with no reward for no apparent reason
hollow shell
(Counter Scarf isn't a passive dodge)
radiant meadow
even if "for nohits", nohitting is a very small portion of the community
sand umbra
The Determination Breaker, Armageddon, and SCal's lore would all like a word with you--
radiant meadow
black belt bypasses all 3
sand umbra
u w0t
radiant meadow
regardless, I don't see the point to this
bitter drift
what is the worst part to be a summoner in
ashen warren
Progression-wise??? Prolly mechs
opaque grail
Pre boss if u dont start with slime staff
ashen warren
but calamity gives one so nope
bitter drift
isn't calamity gives you a slime staff
opaque grail
yeah mechs even in vanilla are a nightmare, even with sharknado staff they were so difficult
bitter drift
but i'm talking about calamity
opaque grail
after ML you got very strong stuff so u just gotta dodge
bitter drift
ok i'll see the mech summons
zenith hazel
doesn’t mechs-tier have 2 armor sets, a good sentry and around 3 good summoner weapons?
depends if you consider spider staff good
worthy fiber
Just for early-HM shenanigans since they're very easy to obtain
Also, armor looks cool
radiant meadow
daedalus, spider, does forbidden count?, spider staff, ice chunk, deepsea staff
cryogenic, queen spider, ooa memes
oh, and optic staff I guess
ashen warren
Forbidden kinda counts??
worthy fiber
Kinda
opaque grail
spiders are meh
worthy fiber
It's a hybrid, too bad nobody uses it
ashen warren
yea sadly
radiant meadow
it's really bad of an armor
opaque grail
I go for them, but ONLY if it's summoner only, there are better weapons like the ice dudes in calamity
the whole set of sentry summon and armour is just meh and easily outclassed
radiant meadow
good design and ideas, but bad execution on forbidden armor
you underestimate the power of triple Cooper
opaque grail
forbidden as in the vanilla desert set? yeah I avoid that no matter what dmg im doing
radiant meadow
quad pods too 
ashen warren
triple cooper best combo
ashen warren
Bad
radiant meadow
it's really just a support for summoner
worthy fiber
As in you can't do a fair sentries-only playthrough
opaque grail
Yeah they get even worse in rev, like in expert a long enough wall of lightning rods for t1 OOA is a free win vs the ground units, but in rev they do 1 dmg per hit, and they cant crit so they're just useless in every sense
radiant meadow
although with Cryogenic and hive pod (maybe spikecrag), ooa armors can let you stack them which is quite powerful
of course, you have to beat ooa
opaque grail
thats why I never do it past the first t1 win
ashen warren
OOA is pain in general
opaque grail
but now that there's post ML content and t3 would be easy... and there are items that are useful in ANY stage, fuck ye
radiant meadow
ooa has some nice loot, but it can be quite a slog to beat
opaque grail
like that item that gives you 5 seconds to parry
for bonus dmg
actually that dmg is insane
ashen warren
BoTI
radiant meadow
do you really want to try and parry something post moon lord?
opaque grail
do you really think I do anything the traditional way
radiant meadow
(also, aerial bane is pretty sick and gets a ton of damage against post golem bosses)
opaque grail
Sure you can shoot providence, OR you can charge at him, block him, and do like x5-x6 dmg
radiant meadow
can you even block providence?
ashen warren
But like , parry a slime and babam
opaque grail
Ive never actually done OOA t2 OR t3 before
exactly ceas you can cheese it with a slime engine
or just a slime that fell into your hole
terse sundial
@strong jacinth Can you add a why to your suggestion?
strong jacinth
yes
strong jacinth
idk
hollow shell
Quality of life is like
making things more convenient or intuitive
terse sundial
it seems more like an additional challenge due to the damage taken cap
hollow shell
Nah you're looking at the cap in reverse
terse sundial
if it is the other way around, that just seems too easy to me
no catch to it at all
hollow shell
Well yeah it's an upgrade
bitter drift
so can i get you opinion on what do you think about this?
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ElMod_E89rODT7PJ8CXt-LpSR8TwQFiOi4WQjI_hPS0/edit?usp=sharing
livid coral
Definitely approve of SOlid Catalyzer. This makes Rogue work with dealing with SCal without accidentally double tapping into shit.
terse sundial
@wooden cedar The Dark Spark is intentionally held that way
worthy fiber
Intended to reference this v
wooden cedar
livid coral
All in all you're just another brick in the wall
radiant meadow
@livid coral solid catalyzer doesn't disable dashes so you still double tap into shit
but there's zero chance of dodging incoming attack with black belt 
hollow shell
@ashen warren A new set of weapons unique to using this item? Or do you mean the boss only drops the weapon belonging to your class from its existing set of weapons?
Also, add a reason to your suggestion please
We've gotta put that in the rules somewhere
ashen warren
I didn't mean to put the very begining of my suggestion on there
hollow shell
Completely superfluous letting it activate Revengeance and Death like that
Just make it Rev-only like Defiled Rune
(also why would you ever want a mode that is dictated by luck to the point that it is your reason for suggesting it)
glad loom
do we really need more modes?
hollow shell
@blazing fog Death-mode exclusive item suggestions are not allowed
bitter topaz
and all 3 of those modes are never going to have exclusive items anyway iirc
blazing fog
srry then
sacred thorn
DAD mode?
hollow shell
Defiled + Arma + Death
queen delta
Defiled armageddon deathmode
sacred thorn
So hell?
hollow shell
ye
young fog
its not hell unless you have maso on as well
ashen warren
Im think a mode dictated by luck and timing
Instead of skill
Using brain skills and luck
So you get rewarded more if you decide to fight a boss at a certain time
hollow shell
Well you don't get rewarded or punished for any reason if RNG is the dictator
ashen warren
It sounds pretty shit if you put it that way
queen sail
Any mode that is based on random chance is pretty much always bad
Mindset of a kog employee p much as dan may attest to
ivory heart
Translations for Roar of the Jungle Dragon.
dense girder
RotJDs in Albanian
dry stag
Yes yes yes eidolon worm summon would be awesome!
fickle spruce
or pet
but a summoner weapon would be cool too as a drop
from juveniles along soul edge and eidolic wail
frail mantle
worm summons are pretty :fear: to code
dense girder
eidolon worm summons have been around since the damn of time
frail mantle
dense girder
also worm summons 
dense girder
dawn* i'm retard sorry
zenith hazel
besides, mechs don’t drop weapons (except for destroyer’s SHPC)
dry stag
I want to suggest an abyss boss
frail mantle
boss suggestions aren't allowed
young fog
miniboss suggestions are tho
frail mantle
^
hollow shell
(and the Abyss already has plenty of those)
sterile moon
Suggestion: Remove the affect of the abyss on worlds not genarated with calamity.
Why? When calamity is enabled and a custom map is used, at the edge of the world, the abyss crush affect will drain the players health, rendering them helpless to the edge of the map.
i can provide screenshots
hollow shell
Well that's the only way for Abyss enemies to spawn in such worlds
considering that side of the world as the Abyss even without the blocks present
hollow shell
Well, you are sure
But what if somebody wants Depth Cells and Lumenyl in a world generated without Calamity?
hollow shell
I see
hollow shell
I guess not
Unless other people have opinions
dry stag
I think this has been suggested before
hollow shell
lemme check
sterile moon
i dont think so
hollow shell
Doesn't look like it
If it has, it wasn't sent in
bitter drift
any opinion on my suggestion?
smoky wagon
idt there needs to be more than one new pre-calamitas summon
and i would rather have it be themed around something other than mechs considering optic staff exists
dry stag
The summons themselves need a lot of polish, but I see your idea
A hallow armor tier of summon weapons would be nice
Optic staff kinda sucks
bitter drift
thanks i tried to put an RIV for it (also why has there been 0 RIVs of summon weapons)
zenith hazel
ngl, don’t put “I’ve never played summoner against mechs” in there because that’s an immediate red flag
also, why does rare retinazer inflict shadowflame?
queen delta
Summoner against mechs are a huge 
frail mantle
can confirm too
open sphinx
i thought that was the stone mask
crystal osprey
What if they added a summonable miniboss that would drop abyss items, so that if you have a vanilla world, you can get the resources
gusty geode
Why can't they just make the Abyss a buildable biome like almost all the others
Sulphur Sea, Astral Infection and even Brimstone Crags are all buildable, so it's obvious they know how to do it
So why haven't they?
hollow shell
How would the depth system work?
How would it determine which enemies to spawn, how hard you drown, and how dark it'd be?
gusty geode
Maybe base it off an Abyss Gravel:Voidstone ratio?
fickle spruce
u forgot sunken sea
gusty geode
Only Gravel=Layer 1
More Gravel than Voidstone=Layer 2
More Voidstone than Gravel=Layer 3
Only Voidstone=Layer 4
hollow shell
But that'd make it pretty simple to create an artificial layer 3 or 4 where it is convenient for you, so you can beach/trap/kite minibosses and enemies
Abyss is supposed to be at least somewhat difficult to access
(also if you kept the air-drowning system then placing too much Voidstone or Abyss Gravel would cause the player to randomly start taking a ton of DoT. God forbid you do it near your spawn point)
gusty geode
Was gonna say something along the lines of "a small price to pay for salvation" in response to that first point but then again I've pulled the "it's supposed to be X" card a few times myself so I have nothing to stand on
Got nothing for the second one either
sacred thorn
should the terrarian be buffed cause its doing dps thats close to the sniper rifle
gaunt gazelle
new final boss lookin dummy thicc
void kelp
hey Sylvia it’s time to Delete
marsh gust
my fkin discord is bugged, stupid mobile
finally
@earnest obsidian no meme suggestions please
proven tide
thank
gaunt gazelle
best suggestion gets taken down
marsh gust
oh he gone?
proven tide
is the ✅ bot working?
marsh gust
@scenic kiln o ye he gone
proven tide
there's like
marsh gust
idk actually, im not in the dev server
proven tide
three in the last few days over 90
hollow shell
Green checks are not automatic
Only the initial star and grey exclamation are.
We're currently working on making deliveries automatic
(more specifically, Amber is)
void kelp
ah nice
hollow shell
Vetus is fake news
elfin maple
The abyss layers could still be based on vertical height, and it would only have an effect on the side of the world.
Like if you were to place a bunch of voidstone in the middle of the world nothing would happen no matter how much you placed
But at the ends of the world it would create the abyss
proven tide
>vetus is fake news
vetus is fake.
eager palm
vetus sstinks
real parrot
@earnest raptor already suggested multiple times
real parrot
yes
eager palm
@proven tide sorry I don't fight the weak
real parrot
take this to gentalk 
earnest raptor
What's wrong with suggestion?
eager palm
No
proven tide
minimodded for minimodding
real parrot
it's been suggested several times already
proven tide
has it really?
real parrot
yes. it has
proven tide
i think it's a rather neat idea
real parrot
it's a good idea, yes, but it's not unique
proven tide
if defeating the point of drop chance
placid moth
^
proven tide
@woeful swift it's already in the game
the proficiency system, which records your progress in each class and lets you level up to stronger and stronger class-specific buffs
it's literally just a fuckin rpg element
tired haven
Next time it's better to ask right here or in #calamity-mod-talk before suggesting something like that
fickle spruce
the proficiency system is already in the game
placid moth
I love your Rotom-Frost pfp ngl
fickle spruce
no
autumn lion
lmao
fickle spruce
hi blanc
small talon
i believe it already does, if im not wrong
hollow shell
Why was it removed?
@steel raptor Edit your previous post instead of posting a new message
steel raptor
ok
radiant meadow
because Fab was going to remove the mechanic
and then rod stuff happened and in the end, he stuck with +50% dmg
I assume he forgot to add it back
hollow shell
I see
steel raptor
fab is removing this mechanic?
radiant meadow
no
hollow shell
He was going to
but was unable to find a better RoD balance mechanic
so he just stuck with +50% damage
radiant meadow
also, the +50% dmg is only revengeance mode
steel raptor
is anything else gonna be added in #changelogs for the next update? I noticed fab had not added anything for a few days.
worn salmon
^
radiant meadow
not all changes are documented in #changelogs
terse sundial
that also ^
hollow shell
unfortunately
terse sundial
mhm
steel raptor
major changes are listed there tho right?
terse sundial
most of the time yes
steel raptor
ok bc I requested a change in the SCal bg and projectile colors almost 3 weeks ago. Is it possible that it could still be implemented in the update after this one?
it had 140+ stars
it just doesn't have the flag yet
radiant meadow
it's possible but just because a suggestion is sent does not mean it will be implemennted
worn salmon
^
happened with me
dont get ur hopes up too high
and it takes time to change things
and there are priorities
autumn lion
Hi @fickle spruce
hollow shell
Would having the tooltip only show up in Revengeance Mode be confusing?
smoky wagon
Is there a way to do that? Alot of items say “only in rev+ ____”
So i assumed it wasnt possible
radiant meadow
that's how it was before it got removed
kinda like how the Well Fed buff only says it increases life regeneration in Expert mode
frail mantle
devs haven't seen it as a priority
dense girder
devs dum
frail mantle
devs got better things to focus on
dense girder
i no like em
frail mantle
ok
dense girder
thank you providab very cool
frail mantle
livid coral
We have a lot of shit to deal with right now, unless you'd rather we not fix multiplayer then I'd suggest you sit down and shut your trap.
We'll get a counter when we have time to implement it
dense girder
oop-- sorry mom :'(
elfin maple
i'll try to make something
first of all we have player.maxMinions which is just the max minion slots available
to find out how many of them are filled, i think you could go through all projectile slots, and add up all the minion slots taken up
it's a bit more complicated than that though
quite a bit actually
lost agate
first mechworm summon spawns 3 things
elfin maple
{
int minionSlotsFilled = 0;
for (int p = 0; p <= 200; p++)
{
Projectile projectile = Main.projectile[p];
if (projectile.friendly && projectile.minion && projectile.owner == player.whoAmI && projectile.active)
{
minionSlotsFilled += (int)projectile.minionSlots;
}
}
Main.NewText(minionSlotsFilled + "/" + player.maxMinions + " Minion Slots Filled");
return true;
}```
If I'm correct, put this in an item and using the item will print how many minion slots you have filled compared to your maximum minion slots.In fact I'm going to test it right now
Apparently projectile.minionSlots is a float
it does not work
elfin maple
ok
hollow shell
Urchin can go through blocks?
lost agate
That sounds like something seriously unintended and probably vanilla's fault
frail mantle
Bacterial Deity
Warning: Do Not insert into washing machine
RIV of The God's Gambit
While in use, Abyssal Mines slowly appear around the Yoyo (possibly at a speed of around one Mine every two seconds). These linger in the air, disappearing after about five seconds if no enemy is nearby. If an enemy enters the "detection range" of the Mines, the mines will begin moving towards them. They start off moving at a medium speed, but gradually slow down the longer they travel, grinding to a halt after moving between 20-30 blocks. Once they stop, they do no longer home in on enemies, and disappear completely upon damaging an enemy. Hitting enemies with the Yoyo itself inflicts Distorted and/or Marked.
Dropped by the Slime God.
Reason for this suggestion: More Yoyo options for WoF. Also, there is no RIV of a Yoyo.
thoughts?
ashen warren
Yoyo dreadmine staff
frail mantle
fickle spruce
rod of discord is easy with defiled rune
strange gull
Bc of it's projectiles?
hollow idol
🤔
fickle spruce
bruh
hollow idol
do you mean the death sickle
strange gull
yes
radiant meadow
that doesn't mean anything
strange gull
brb
strange gull
but they have projectiles
radiant meadow
over half the swords have projectiles
strange gull
i guess
radiant meadow
you swing it, it's a sword 
hollow idol
^