suggestions-discussion

[elder mist]

To be fair you aren't holding a weapon nor dealing damage.

...Wait, you are dealing damage if you're a summoner.

Nnnnever mind me.

Reflect ravager's stone pillars

[quiet abyss]

🤔 Hmm, it does sound a bit neat though
If you're good with timings this could potentially be a rather nice emergency tool to let yourself not get hit every now and then

[elder mist]

It doesn't hit postml bosses' projectiles so it's kinda nifty ye.

[ruby cobalt]

"variation of the magnum"
Mind you, marked magnum isn't a variation of magnum, it's more of a weaker lunic eye.

[mystic sandal]

Sorry about that, fixed the why section

[fickle spruce]

one of the arks already has a rare variant though

[novel pebble]

@elder mist

[proven tide]

time to play mod roulette

which of the

there we go

[night cradle]

Isn't Lunic Eye a Hardmode weapon though?

[normal thorn]

It is

[night cradle]

Just a thing I've noticed
I like the suggestion though

[normal thorn]

I dont know its kinda complicated

And the fact that its copypasted from EtG

And i think its pretty useless with this cooldown

And and and its similiar to RoD you also have to swap in order to use it. Pretty annoying.

Also theres no point in visiting jungle this late in pre hardmode. Eh..

[elder mist]

Okay but instead of nitpicking you could look at it for what it is.

[normal thorn]

I get the idea, reflecting projectiles, right.

It could be useful if it had like a very little cooldown and a big skill requirement

[elder mist]

Not to mention:

1. How complicated can it be? Swing a weapon, if it's an enemy it deals damage like any other, if it's a projectile it will reflect it. Has a cooldown.
2. Many things are inspired by other games.
3. cooldown is to prevent bosses from literally never hitting you.
4. items like these that require you to switch are good because if you're holding a defensive tool you shouldn't also be able to hold an offensive one.
5. that's no reason to say something shouldn't be added, what? there's no point in being underground / surface / space / ocean etc that late in phm. Underworld all the time or bust.

[normal thorn]

Well i dont understand whats the point of deflecting 3 bullets if lucky every 15 seconds if you dont forget to use it in an intence fight

[elder mist]

You avoided damage that you would've otherwise taken, that's the point.

[normal thorn]

Theres counter scarf

[elder mist]

There's also Rod, titanium armor, master ninja gear...

Etc etc.

[normal thorn]

Yeah

[elder mist]

What's your point then?

[normal thorn]

Well theres already alot of avoiding attacks items which are even better than this

Like u can basically equip scarf and avoid almost every attack

[elder mist]

Uh... no, you really can't.

[normal thorn]

I dont know, it works for me..

And i can dodge

[elder mist]

That's not avoiding almost every attack.

You avoid one that would've dealt damage.

[normal thorn]

I mean yeah

[elder mist]

Rod allows you to dodge another one for a separate cooldown.

Assuming you have quick fingers.

[normal thorn]

Well scarf is the closest to bat

But its an accessory

[elder mist]

Besides, I still fail to see why you don't want that item.

Just because there's too much stuff?

[normal thorn]

I never said i dont want it

[elder mist]

If you're fighting against the item then surely there's some vendetta there?

[normal thorn]

All i did is tell my opinion about what seems wrong to me

[mystic sandal]

The point of the bat is to basically be a reflector with a cooldown

[normal thorn]

Yeah i get it haha

[mystic sandal]

Reflect a laser you’re about to get hit by from WoF, deal a bit of damage, get adrenaline

[normal thorn]

I just think that counter scarf already does a beeter job

You said it cant reflect lasers?

[mystic sandal]

I said beams

Like phantasmal death ray

Retinazer and WoF lasers are different

[normal thorn]

Oh yeah

Well makes sense, theyre rather small

[mystic sandal]

And also

[normal thorn]

I think it would be hard to make a deflecting weapon tho

[mystic sandal]

Counter Scarf is not a weapon that should be used to jump into attacks and not get hit, most of the time

[elder mist]

The code already exists in astral arcanum though.

For reflecting projectiles.

[mystic sandal]

It’s like Master Ninja Gear, but weaker since it’s pre-hardmode

[normal thorn]

Farming for this thing would be a pain

[mystic sandal]

Jungle Bats are so hard to farm right? /s

[normal thorn]

Not really

But just going to the jungle at this point of the game

[pliant bone]

And zerg

or even just battle pot + water candle

[mystic sandal]

At the very least it would give you a reason to not visit anything but the dungeon or underworld

Because that’s where you will be doing a lot of stuff post Hive/Perf

[normal thorn]

Yeah. Thats what im doing rn in my playthrough haha

[mystic sandal]

And the jungle bat isn’t hard to farm for, you can spend a couple minutes in the jungle and you should get it considering you can make zergs

[normal thorn]

Well i think if its added, people would just go to jungle and get it occasionally

Most of the time

[mystic sandal]

It’s still time that’s well spent outside of the underworld and dungeon

And having more time to be in other biomes is a good thing

[normal thorn]

But again, pre hardmode projectiles are pretty eeasy to dodge if youre not a newbie

[mystic sandal]

It makes that stage of the game feel less stale

Imagine this

You’re fighting WoF as a melee character

You see a laser coming towards you

Can’t back up due to not being able to attack otherwise

[normal thorn]

Lasers are easily avoided if u use ball o fugu and jump at the right time

And the fact that it shoots tons of lasers

[mystic sandal]

Think about the last part tho

[normal thorn]

U can only deflect 3 of them

[mystic sandal]

You may dodge some lasers but get hit by others

[normal thorn]

But u have invisibility frames

[vague olive]

You seem very determined to invalidate this suggestion

[normal thorn]

Well im sorry

[mystic sandal]

I meant in the end of the laser spam from the eyes

Plus, dealing extra damage is always good, even if you do get hit by some

[vague olive]

Half of your reasons arent even proper arguments

[normal thorn]

I understand now

It was just first that came to my head

[elder mist]

Wtf portal is alive?

[normal thorn]

But wof is not a good example of using bat

[vague olive]

Bruh moment

[normal thorn]

I think it would be great for worms

[vague olive]

What projectiles do worms have?

[normal thorn]

Like desert scourge and eater of worlds

[mystic sandal]

You don’t need to fight EoW again if you beat Hive Mind, unless you have some oddly specific reason

[normal thorn]

Ooh right its post hive mind

Well you see when you fight wof, its laser spam is supposed to hit u once or twice, it shoots tonns of them, but only a couple hit you, so using bat wouldnt be the best option

U will get hit anyways

[mystic sandal]

If you use the bat, you can still get extra damage in

[normal thorn]

But its unessential

[mystic sandal]

And every bit of damage counts

[normal thorn]

U can deal much more damage with your melee weapon

[mystic sandal]

And also, purified jam

[normal thorn]

Yeah purified jam + melee weapon

[mystic sandal]

The point of the Jungle Bat is to be a support weapon

Not something you use regularly

That’s why it has a cooldown

[normal thorn]

Its pretty situational tho

And u cant use it post moonlord

[mystic sandal]

Situational does not equal bad

[normal thorn]

Yeah i didnt say that

[mystic sandal]

And it doesn’t really matter to use it post Moon lord

There are too many projectiles that bosses throw out for it to matter at that point

Here’s a boss it could be used against: Skeletron Prime

When prime fires his rockets, you could be attacked by his other limbs

[normal thorn]

Ah man i dont want to torture you sorry

[mystic sandal]

So you can whack the rockets back at him with the bat, then destroy the cannon

[normal thorn]

Well it might be hard to deflect rockets to moving prime

Because u cant be static and have to move too

[mystic sandal]

It’s still avoiding damage you would have otherwise taken

Or you can reflect Plantera’s spike balls in phase 1 to not get hit by them when you go to the bottom of your arena

[normal thorn]

Well i dont want to argue with you man, i love the idea, but i dont like how you realised it. Its too situational. But its only my opinion. I hope other people will like it, and it gets in game, i would never think of such complicated thing anyways.

Theres always haters haha

[mystic sandal]

That’s all you had to say

I’m gonna go on Reddit now

See ya

[normal thorn]

Yeaaa cya

[worthy fiber]

Ancient bone dust is common enough now, it doesn't need a recipe

[frank stratus]

i would like to mass-craft ancient bone dust for calcium potions iirc

[mystic sandal]

Ancient Bone Dust only happens when cereal haves no milk

[frank stratus]

[mystic sandal]

I thank you for laughing at my terrible sense of humor

[hollow shell]

@worn salmon Eh Ancient Bone Dust is common enough
Even Hoplites drop it. Just find a marble cave and you'll get a bunch of it

[mystic sandal]

Ancient Bone Dust is a bit of a useless material for a lot of playthroughs imo and there are enough ways to get it, so yeah I agree with Sors

[hollow shell]

Crumbling Potion is pretty good

[queen delta]

Also used for sponge iirc

[mystic sandal]

You right

But only a small amount is really needed for a playthrough

[frank stratus]

o

[mystic sandal]

Not enough for a crafting recipe

[ashen warren]

Im not surprised that my suggestion did bad because i came up with it a 10 pm

The super rares?

[queen delta]

i sent a lot of suggestions the past week

[placid moth]

i can tell

[bitter drift]

10 blocks is nothing

but still started

[distant gyro]

you don't want the fight to be too easy either

[bitter drift]

so 15 blocks the scarf's dash is bigger

[distant gyro]

if it's like 20 blocks then everyone could react to it basically

[worn salmon]

@hollow shell oh, i never really see it drop tbh

[vocal grotto]

I guess it could vary by mode/BR

ultimately Fab's decision if it gets in tho

[gloomy hazel]

Battle Royale mode is a hecking no!

I do not want that

[vocal grotto]

Boss rush you nerd

[ivory heart]

Fragment Cores
Made from 15 of each fragment.
Solar: increases melee attack speed and mining speed by ??%
Vortex: increases ranged Fire rate by ??% and ??% chance not to consume ammo
Nebula: increases maximum mana by ?? and decreases mana usage by ??%
Summoner: increases max summons by ?

[frail mantle]

why

[ivory heart]

y e s

[frail mantle]

Summoner already has Statis' Curse, which is made with Stardust Fragments and increases minion slots by three

[vocal grotto]

Seems overpowered, also, Fabsol is the one that determines the values of effects

[ivory heart]

It’s better now

[frail mantle]

but still

why

[vocal grotto]

^

[ruby field]

starring your own suggestion
true gamer move

[open prairie]

sure is question mark around here

[queen delta]

where's the love for rogue

Just put meld blobs in the recipe too

[paper torrent]

So a moderator has reviewed my Exo Material Manipulator suggestion. Does that mean they checked to see if it follows rules?

[frail mantle]

if the ❕ emote has been removed it means that it doesn't break any suggestion rules, yes

[elfin maple]

yes

that is a good thing if the ❕ is removed

if people react that before it's removed they probably don't like your suggestion

[paper torrent]

Damn. I am 34 stars shy of the suggestion being sent to the dev server. Though I kinda never expect my suggestions to make it, lmao. But honestly 56 stars is the MOST I have gotten. It kinda sucks that your suggestion sort of becomes forgotten after a span of time and suggestions. It hurts more when they are bad suggestions that end up moving your suggestion to the forgotten lands of scrolling.

Wait, make it 35, since I am not sure if the bot star counts.

[distant gyro]

it does count

also self starring counts despite people shaming on it

and it's not wrong to self star btw, pin for reference

[paper torrent]

Okay, 34 then. Do people actually scroll up to look at suggestions? And I don't star my suggestions.

[frail mantle]

Self starring isn't against the rules, it's just that a lot of people see it as self-congratulating or something

[paper torrent]

Yeah. Though it is tempting from time to time. But I know restraint.

One person said to exclude exo materials like Phantoplasm, though the suggestion DID say it was optional. Probably poor formatting on my part.

[mystic sandal]

The most I’ve gotten is 107, it’s so satisfying to get your suggestion sent. But it’s just fun to write suggestions and come up with new ideas, too. Don’t feel down if your suggestion wasn’t sent to the devs

[paper torrent]

I mean, mine is basically convenience and compaction.

And I bet.

[mystic sandal]

My suggestion only had 10 stars in the first hour. More people will be awake soon and that means more people can see your suggestion

[paper torrent]

I had a suggestion implemented into Querty's Random Content.

[mystic sandal]

Oh congrats on the implementation!

What was it?

[paper torrent]

Yep, though it is stupidly broken. And it is the Divine Blade.

Huh, seeing my suggestion getting stars even though you have to scroll for a bit feels nice. Funnily enough, I wrote a memo telling me on the date and time of the suggestion.

[mystic sandal]

Does anyone know if using general terms for damage like low or high damage is allowed or not? Just want to be safe

[frail mantle]

it is

[elfin maple]

that's fine

fabsol gets to decide the stats if it gets in

[radiant meadow]

It's really more of the testing team, but no point in adding stats as they will change

[elfin maple]

how would you measure the rarity of a block?

[mystic sandal]

The materials to get it and the rarity of the mob that drops it

[elfin maple]

how about the rarity/price of the item?

that would be a lot easier to code

[terse sundial]

price is based off of rarity, depends on when it is obtained

also rarity and price are two lines of code

[ashen warren]

I think it would be cool if it was actually viable but common blocks could only be useful in the early game

[elfin maple]

yes

[ashen warren]

So it could still be could on Supreme Calamitas but you would need to shoot blocks like aurlic ore

[elfin maple]

ok

ye i know value and rarity are two different values

[ashen warren]

and make it classless

[elfin maple]

mhm

so we'd make an ammo class that includes all tiles

[ashen warren]

they should just group certain ones together

[elfin maple]

i guess you could set one of the projectile's ai values to the id of the item, then take it's sprite and calculate the damage and stuff

[ashen warren]

The Block Launcher
It would be bought from the merchant with a price of 10 gold coins.
It would be a classless weapon that would shoot out blocks but with different use time, debuffs that it inflicts and the base damage of the projectile, so it could still be viable in the endgame but you would need to use blocks and ores according to your progression there for balancing it.
Why? The mod's unique mechanics have always been a special part of the Calamity mod and it would allow players to have another option for their play-through.

Try using this as the basis for your suggestion.

[queen delta]

Surprised i didnt notice this lol

[harsh grove]

had to come in with a simple suggestion for a simple reason:
Me: "Whyyyy is it so hard to collect Sunlight"
Also me: "Oh, there's no boss that drops it"

[distant gyro]

@ashen warren is this another "weapon that's scaling making it horrible to balance"

[ashen warren]

Thats not always true

killing bosses with ease is not balanced

[distant gyro]

If it's too strong it's unbalanced, if it's too weak then it won't be worth using and will be just another weapon in the pile

that's the cost of scaling weapons

[ashen warren]

Not having to do a lot of grinding in a single player game is

[harsh grove]

also, basing the Material/Block Launcher's damage on a block's price won't work because the overwhelming majority of blocks have no sell price
in case that wasn't already brought up

[ashen warren]

i think it very

[queen sail]

Blocks have no sell price

A majority of them

[ashen warren]

like your post doggo weapons do significantly more damage than pre doggo ones.

[queen sail]

The ones you can farm from the world have no sell price

Blocks like martian conduit plating have sell prices though

[ashen warren]

But dirt is shit now

[distant gyro]

until you put into consideration that setting weapon by sell price is pure wack

[ashen warren]

so you need chaotic ore

[distant gyro]

and if you're going by progression, for example, cosmilite bricks would be very op/up for Yharon I'd imagine

[ashen warren]

it would be balanced actually

[queen sail]

Balanced by what

[ashen warren]

just like using a post dog sword

the fact that a lot of resources are limited

[queen sail]

Really

[ashen warren]

umm

[queen sail]

Fucking bots

[ashen warren]

is that something a mod should know about?

[distant gyro]

resources are limited

[terse sundial]

already deleted

[ashen warren]

good

[distant gyro]

be prepared for people with mass gamer brains and using alchnpc and other mods to buy infinite blocks

[ashen warren]

it wouldn't be that much different for them

If they want to use other mods its fine

[queen sail]

Also like

[ashen warren]

if its unbalanced because its own mod did the balancing wrong then its bad

[queen sail]

The classless weapons as of now are either “Shit ton of damage in one shot” or “Debuffs”

[ashen warren]

So dirt might do 3 damge, shoot slow and no debuffs

while Aurlic ore would do 200, shoot really fast and inflict a shit ton of debuffs

[wide patrol]

I already posted this in calamity talk, but I'll share it here too

Imagine if there was a flight time meter

and then imagine an object which slowly replenished that while you're right in front of it

[ashen warren]

Thats sounds like a nice feature to have

[vague olive]

Wouldnt it be much easier to just grapple onto a platform?

[harsh grove]

a visual representation of flight time does sound nice

[ashen warren]

So are you thinking an accessory like the radar or a feature that you start with?

[wide patrol]

idk

what sounds more balanced?

im gonna give everyone here ptsd whenever they see that word

[smoky wagon]

there is already a weapon that shoots bars in thorium

[terse sundial]

mhm

[smoky wagon]

it takes a ton of time to make a weapon like that and i think calamity devs would rather do other things

[ashen warren]

Yeah

Its like that with most suggestions

[ashen warren]

piss sea is yellow so AS dropping essence of sunlight checks out for me

[ashen warren]

Piss sea has no relation to the sun whats so ever

Desert enemies or a buffed desert scourge would be better.

[lost agate]

i mean, AS is a buffed scourge in concept

[ashen warren]

I picked desert scourge because his theme is the Desert and it gets a lot of sun

[young fog]

cinder essence doesn't really make sense logically

[ashen warren]

while out in the piss sea, the Aquatic scourge is submerged in the piss deep in the piss se

[young fog]

like why would a water themed boss drop a fire themed item?

[ashen warren]

they changed its name for it to fit

Cinder is heat and likely caused unwanted association to hell

No idea

[young fog]

still doesn't make sense

[ashen warren]

Other than , Cryogen dropping eleum and brimmy dropping chaos

[lost agate]

essence of sunlight isnt fire themed

if anything, chaos is

its for entities that live near the sun or have high exposure to it

[ashen warren]

It used to be called cinder which means heat

[lost agate]

not anymore

[ashen warren]

I know

[lost agate]

cinder is not heat, its what you get after a fire

[ashen warren]

So thats why a buffed desert scourge would be better

or a sky boss

which isn't happening

[young fog]

they already drop from cloud elementals iirc

[queen sail]

You might as well for consistency

[ashen warren]

Thats the only good reason

[queen sail]

Ravager drops every calamity hm crafting material for no reason

He just does for qol

[lost agate]

i mean, pollution increases sunlight so maybe it fits for AS

[delicate raft]

Consistency > Logic

imo

[queen sail]

Also DS already has a small buff post skeletron iirc

[ashen warren]

that can be up for debate

it can do either one

[lost agate]

if anything provi could drop essence of sunlight but whats the point of that?

[young fog]

well the ravager's file name is "Scavenger" so it could make sense

[ashen warren]

I was thinking that but yeah its pointless at that point at the game.

[young fog]

ther's already technically a miniboss that does tho

[lost agate]

also, cryo dropping eleum evens out the fact that no enemy has a 100% chance to drop some

[ashen warren]

along with brimmy?

[lost agate]

as for chaos, crag is just a essence of chaos fest

its only limited to a small biome or one enemy in hell

as to sunlight, you have desert enemies, sky enemies and some have a 100% chance to drop several

[ashen warren]

its not a bad suggestion, I'm just focusing on the logic and reason more than the convenience, consistency and gameplay

What Shucks said was also a valid point

[lost agate]

you have 3 minibosses dropping essence of sunlight

[ashen warren]

That should make up for aqua not dropping them

[radiant meadow]

yes, desert scourge has a minor speed buff post skelly

[fickle spruce]

essence of sunlight is pretty separate from eleum of chaos tho

cuz chaos and eleum are like fire and ice

sunlight is just some space stuff

[ivory heart]

AS is pre hardmode

[delicate raft]

@ivory heart why

why make it slower

[gloomy hazel]

I don't see the point either tbh

[ivory heart]

I feel that slowing the fire animation would be softer

[delicate raft]

you could point that out in the suggestion

i'm not a mod or anything buuut

[ivory heart]

The Calamity music box is quite subtle and soft so I feel that slowing the animated logo does well

Also unrelated, my suggestion got sent

[lost agate]

thats the second time you mention it

[gloomy hazel]

insert sad reaction

[glad loom]

people get too hung up over stars

[elder mist]

Fact.

[glad loom]

a guy even complained that "shit suggestions" were pushing his suggestion away so he couldnt get stars

[gloomy hazel]

I remember one had said so, but come on!

[ashen warren]

tho ngl shit suggestions are a thing

[glad loom]

yeah but shit suggestions aren't going to prevent good suggestions from getting through

[gloomy hazel]

it's not because suggestions are further above that people won't notice them

[lost agate]

i mean, its not like bad suggestion will prevent you from scrolling up

[gloomy hazel]

I'm still gonna keep doing suggestions for combat mounts though, I don't see any mount (except the Jelly Bean from what I keep hearing) that can be useful in true combat.
Plus, there's too many organic mounts and only 4 engine powered mounts, we need more vehicle-like mounts and less animal-like mounts

[lost agate]

slime and bean are used in combats only because they make you fall faster

you dont use them to attack

[gloomy hazel]

but bouncing on ennemies isn't considered as dealing damages?

[lost agate]

who does that intentionally?

[gloomy hazel]

If you deal damages, then you're supposedly attacking

[lost agate]

if anything, bouncing fucks people over most of the time

[gloomy hazel]

Uuh...you feel sorta straight forward with that sentence

[lost agate]

i mean, i have seen a lot of people get destroyed by clone because they bounced with something

[radiant meadow]

you don't usually utilize the bouncing mechanic of the slimy saddle in combat

it's much more common for people to utilize the faster falling speed

[lost agate]

yeah

[gloomy hazel]

Huh

Okay, now I have a pretty clear idea of what should make my idea better.

a mount (obviously engine powered because, you know me) that falls faster but doesn't bounce. Of course, it won't be the only thing it'd have.

Oh wait, I know!

How about a mount that has its own active ability? Think about the activables from some of the armors of Calamity

Oooh, I know what I can come with

[mystic sandal]

Maybe a mount that can slam into the ground and destroy blocks?

[gloomy hazel]

Nah, more like a mount that can enhance its movement abilities once you trigger a button

like doubled horizontal acceleration and fall speed or something like that

for 10 seconds

60 seconds cooldown

[smoky wagon]

my suggestion got utterly flooded

but it still got 90 because i put alot of effort into it

[mystic sandal]

There are like 20 suggestions a day, but no suggestion is overshadowed, people read all of them

[queen delta]

Blue check

But keep it here since it shouldnt have fall damage tbh

[gloomy hazel]

Okay, new update on my mech sprite, I've changed its colors from blue to red and added a bulky jetpack.

Before:

After:

How does it look, compared to the previous version?

[fickle spruce]

seems like latest suggestion gonna get a blue sign

[ashen warren]

oof

[quick dove]

im pretty sure thats like

planned

[gloomy hazel]

I've already made that kind of suggestion a month or two ago, but instead of a merchant, she'd be a buff granting NPC. It got the green checkmark

[full bramble]

we're in the endgame now

[gloomy hazel]

My suggestion is done, a high-risk high-reward mount

[opaque grail]

I wish there was a fast fall mount that didnt have the whole bounce thing

cuz slime mount has only been used for fast fall for me, and I never bounce late game cuz I try to stay far away, but early game it fucks me over instantly cuz I cant dash, hook, or glide away, and I cant even cancel fall dmg w/o wings

[keen bobcat]

I don't think that the Suspicious Looking Bean causes you to bounce, but I could be wrong there.

[gloomy hazel]

I believe it does. Let me check

Mmh, you were right, the Jelly Bean doesn't bounce

[hollow shell]

As in, bouncing off of enemies?

[keen bobcat]

Yes. That's why I suggested an improvement to it so that it feels more distinct from the Slimy Saddle- like more of an upgrade, given that it's Revengeance exclusive and acquired much later on.

[gloomy hazel]

After all, the Jelly Bean mount is kind of slow, no?

for horizontal speed

In the end, I think my mount suggestion seems too powerful to be dropped by the mechs, or else the Jelly Bean mount is very UP.

or maybe the 60 defense bonus from the Jelly Bean mount could be considered as balanced?

I don't know, I don't feel much interrest to the Jelly Bean myself

Maybe my suggestion deserves to be moved to the Plague Bringer instead?

Any advice?

Alright, I've decided that it's post-Ravager but still drops from the mechanical bosses

Uuuuhg, I don't know! It's hard to find a proper way to make the fight harder to match the Ravager's difficulty

[hollow shell]

Draedon's Remote?

[gloomy hazel]

I think about it, but I keep telling myself that Draedon's Remote won't make it since the remote is supposed to be a teaser for Draedon as a boss

[opaque grail]

did you say 60 defense bonus?

jesus christ hell yeah thats insane

[gloomy hazel]

the Jelly Bean has a 60 defense bonus

[opaque grail]

Now I wish I knew to go for that asap

[gloomy hazel]

I still think the mech I suggest seems stronger than the Jelly Bean anyway

do you think it is? Compared to the Jelly Bean

[queen delta]

Bean doesnt do any damage iirc

[gloomy hazel]

nah, it doesn't

[opaque grail]

Which I'd argue is a buff relative to the slimy

[gloomy hazel]

I need more of your opinion about my suggestion, you think it's stronger or equal to the Jelly Bean?

[opaque grail]

idk it just seems powerful with the movement alone, and adding all those buffs and the damage increases on top of that seem a little much, especially for smth that is post mechs

[gloomy hazel]

That's what I feared the most

I'll think of how to change that

@opaque grail Seems better?

[opaque grail]

I don't think you should be editing suggestions... cuz ppl voted for the original one and not what u edited it to be

[gloomy hazel]

Sooo...I should add what I removed back?

[proven tide]

i love him

he is mine

[worthy fiber]

oscillating crab

@languid wyvern can't do boss suggestions my dude

[zenith hazel]

looks really radical but no boss suggestions unfortunately

[languid wyvern]

hold on

fixed

[hollow idol]

Honestly yeah, more crag content would be nice

[zenith hazel]

he spawns randomly and one shots you when he spawns on top of you, hmmm

[spark flax]

cragbulon smells like meme suggestion 2 me

[dusty stirrup]

[hollow idol]

i wouldnt give him a theme

[opaque grail]

he has a theme

[dusty stirrup]

More crag content would be nice but... not that

[opaque grail]

it's crabulon, reversed

[dusty stirrup]

Ah yes, high effort theme

[hollow idol]

Miniboss dont get theme

[ashen warren]

I’d love unique enemies or tiles

[opaque grail]

but that name 👌

[lost agate]

This entire miniboss just smells of laziness

[zenith hazel]

rip cnidrion’s theme, lasted for 5 seconds

[dusty stirrup]

It's really hard to read thro it

[opaque grail]

VERY questionable suggest

[hollow idol]

did anyone ever complete cnidri’s theme

[opaque grail]

idek if its legit

[lost agate]

Reversed themed, legit animation just shaking and its hard to read yes

[dusty stirrup]

Cnidrion's theme is just terraria day theme remix iirc

[zenith hazel]

but a crag hoe JUST to grow mushrooms faster? kinda niche

[dusty stirrup]

Also nice meme

[ashen warren]

a hoe is never a good suggestion imo

[languid wyvern]

keep the hoe that's the most important part

[dusty stirrup]

You're saying that like your sugmas will get in

[zenith hazel]

and not the giant ass miniboss that’s crabulon but not really

mushrooms grow pretty fast iirc

[opaque grail]

tbh crab is a rly cool pre HM fight

he was probs my fav of all of them

[ashen warren]

my only issue with crab is holy hell the summoning item is cheap

[zenith hazel]

you don’t need large amounts of them unless you’re going for shroomite armor, which “loses” its viability once ataxia is available

[lost agate]

Also, yes replace a boss entirely for a miniboss

[opaque grail]

@zenith hazel I have like a screens worth of 1 layer of mushroom grass and whenever I return down there I get lots of mushrooms, and thats excluding trees cuz I placed walls

[zenith hazel]

yea

[opaque grail]

Mushrooms are extremely quick to grow if u just do smth else while you wait an ingame day or two

[zenith hazel]

the problem with shroomite armor is the asinine loads of chlorophyte you need

[ashen warren]

even in a small arena I get enough mushrooms to summon him like 17 more times, too much tbh

[zenith hazel]

also what’s with the crabulon-related suggestions recently

[hollow shell]

@languid wyvern You're gonna need a much more extensive reason why for that suggestion

[languid wyvern]

but you see what about natural mushrooms? normal ones. use the hoe on grass to get some more of those.

[zenith hazel]

why do you want normal mushrooms?

especially during hardmode?

[opaque grail]

Mushrooms are useless tho

[languid wyvern]

health potions. regen potions.

[dusty stirrup]

Why are you insisting on your miniboss replacing crabulon lmao

What's the point of that

[opaque grail]

You can BUY pots, and u need glowing shrooms for those

[zenith hazel]

you can just farm bosses

[languid wyvern]

it would be kinda redundant to have 2 crab bosses

[zenith hazel]

you have mimics at that point

[dusty stirrup]

We're not removing crabulon to replace it with whatever that is

[opaque grail]

buying t1 pots is cheaper and less work, making t2 pots needs GLOWING shrooms, and t3-t4 are easily farmed early HM through bosses and mimics

[lost agate]

Also, fucking one hit ko, from something that spawns on top you, wh

[opaque grail]

fucking one hit ko in GENERAL

[zenith hazel]

teleports on top of you nothing personal, kid

[fervent zealot]

random unavoidable 1shots are a terrible idea

[languid wyvern]

jeez if you guys hate it so much it's gone now

[dusty stirrup]

Yes put more thought in your suggestion next time

[hollow shell]

The reason why should be the most important part
That whole thing screamed of meme and "because why not"

[opaque grail]

Everybody wants HM crabulon, but it needs a lot of thought, and explanation as to how it'd be done, why fight it, when it'd be fought, what it'd drop, and why it exists

[languid wyvern]

what if instead of cragbulon it was like some sort of eldritch abomination with interesting loot that has some utility to give the crags some more intrest?

[hollow idol]

scryllar 2.0

[zenith hazel]

I mean if it has multiple purposes then yeah

[opaque grail]

If it was an interesting boss with interesting loot, yes

except things arent that simple, that requires depth effort and lots of thought

[hollow shell]

miniboss

[opaque grail]

boss miniboss whatever, giant clam is as much a boss as DS is

[hollow idol]

clam has more attacks than ds

[zenith hazel]

it’s just fat as hell, it serves little to no challenge

[opaque grail]

same with KS, EoW, DS, EoC

[hollow shell]

That's why it's the first boss, fellas

[zenith hazel]

talking about the clam I mean

[opaque grail]

thats the point for early bosses

[lost agate]

Also, clam post DS doesnt have more attacks than DS

[hollow shell]

You havent fought Clam in Hardmode have you Bravioli?

[zenith hazel]

in pre-hm I mean

ofc it’d pose a challenge later on

[smoky wagon]

hardmode clam was harder then cryogen

some mini boss

[hollow idol]

^

[lost agate]

If you dont flatten out a small area then it is indeed hard to dodge

[zenith hazel]

it was just there in pre-hm to get amidias

[smoky wagon]

tbf back when i was trying to get the clam crusher giant clams would despawn instantly

[opaque grail]

It's just as much a boss as DS is Pre-HM, and people say it's more of a boss than Cryogen, so shouldn't it just be considered a full fledged boss and given like +1 attack for his pattern?

[smoky wagon]

now its fixed

nah giant clam is fine how it is

[ashen warren]

do y’all think 50 mushrooms is fair for crabulon’s summoning item?

[opaque grail]

crabulons item is 15

or 25 I dont remember

[smoky wagon]

cryogen is a simple and easy boss by design

[zenith hazel]

clam in hm truly feels like a threat you must be careful around

[ashen warren]

ik

[smoky wagon]

its a introduction to hardmode

[ashen warren]

for my suggestion

[hollow shell]

Replace "quite a few" with "quite little".

"quite a few" implies "a lot" or "too much"

[lost agate]

Why would they buff clam?

[opaque grail]

I dont get why make it more expensive to make

at 15, even with my farm I'd rather just buy it because it's way cheaper

at 15, even before I had my druid I was convinced I'd rather wait til I get her than have to keep making them if I wanted to farm him for anything

[ashen warren]

Crabulon can already drop enough mushrooms to resummon him, and fighting him in even a natural mushroom biome could yield a few more. I just feel that, already being a very easy boss, Crabulon is way too farmable and increasing the summoning item price in terms of item might help. Increasing the dryad price could also work, but I didn’t mention it in my suggestion because having both might make farming him completely useless, considering the summoning item and his base coin drops are both 4 gold.

[smoky wagon]

Whats wrong with it being easy to farm

alot of bosses drop materials which can be made into more boss summons

[ashen warren]

which ones?

[lost agate]

Also, crab doesnt drop anything you could abuse of farming

[ashen warren]

Mushrooms at best

[lost agate]

Theres only weapons

And mushrooms yes

[ashen warren]

and mushroom seeds

Might be useful early hm

but at that point, it don't matter

[harsh orchid]

they could add crab on it recipe,

[ashen warren]

idk maybe it’s just crabulon’s ezness

[gloomy hazel]

Now that I look at my mech again, I notice that it looks like an Engi from FTL

[bitter drift]

how is this for a yo-yo suggestion?

1. mirror ball(yo-yo): made by 1 crystal ball, 1 chik, 15 souls of light, 10 hallowed crystals and a phase specific Item (this is to lock it into the right place, if it will be straight after WoF then this component will be removed)

what it does?: at day shoot beams of light from the yo-yo,
these beams will burn anyone that they hit (inflicting the debuff burning)
at night the beams shot from the yo-yo will do less damage, have a lower fire rate and inflict the debuff on fire instead of burning.
but the yo-yo does more damage but it brake on hit, firing crystal shards when hitting an enemy.

[zenith hazel]

where would you want to put it in terms of progression?

[bitter drift]

idk i tried to ask places for a bunch of hallow weapon but i have yet to find a good place

also this won't be the only weapon i'm making a doc

[zenith hazel]

post-ml could be nice because the hallow is buffed there

also because terrarian sucks ass for providence

but then again, this yoyo would have to be very good for it to be viable against providence in a yoyo run

[bitter drift]

ok then I'll add Lumenite bars or should i add the last prism instead?

[zenith hazel]

unholy essences tbh

last prism makes little sense

[bitter drift]

it's not an unholy Item

just an hallowed one

[zenith hazel]

but it’s a hallow item

and unholy essences can be considered a hallow drop

[bitter drift]

but it is also gotten in hell (if you can't see i want to get away from the unholy drops)

last prism make more sense because it's a mirror yo-yo
mirrors reflect light like what the last prism does

[zenith hazel]

but a mage weapon in a recipe for a melee weapon...

I get the whole premise of prisms but it’s kinda weird

[bitter drift]

this is not a problem with other classes

a mage weapon to make a bow

[zenith hazel]

so it has to be stronger than prism then

if it’s to be worth using

[bitter drift]

is prism strong enough for prov?

[ashen warren]

What is this lazhar on reverse

[zenith hazel]

pretty good

[bitter drift]

is this a good concept also?

2. unicorn cry (rogue): made by 20 unicorn horns, 1 lumenite bar, 5 solar fragments and 5 vortex fragments

what it does?: throws a unicorn horn, when this horn hit an enemy a unicorn rushes to damage the target of the horn, the unicorn ignore invincibility frames and pierce but when he is out of view he disappear.

can i get criticism?

[frail mantle]

how would the unicorn rush to the target

would it run there, or would it just go nyoom through the air

[bitter drift]

so i think i can change it to Pegasus do you think this is better?

[frail mantle]

no, i mean, would the unicorn run along the ground or just fly across the screen

[bitter drift]

fly

if it was running it will be useless for prov

[frail mantle]

[bitter drift]

i'll type it's flying thank for the help

[fickle spruce]

not all people have good mushroom biomed

[bitter drift]

but everyone can make one

[fickle spruce]

nah

[bitter drift]

just get a seed and some mud

[frail mantle]

why would making Levi larger in death mode be necessary

[icy cove]

It's already hard enough to dodge

[frail mantle]

^

[queen delta]

Siren and levi are already a pain in their tier

[frail mantle]

yes

[ashen warren]

Leviathan is going to have a new sprite soon. Look at #lore-discussion to see that.

That is bigger than her current one.

[bitter drift]

well it is already to big

[queen delta]

“Why: idk”

[bitter drift]

is this a good idea? (3/5)

3. the crystal excavator (rocket launcher): made by 20 hallowed crystal, a mineral mortar, 20 lumenite bars and 30 pearlstone.

what it does?: shoot a rocket, when the rocket hit an enemy or a block the rocket explode and 2 launch mini rockets.
the mini rockets explode 3 time but do less damage with a smaller blast radius.

is there any criticism?

why do i have to ask for criticism? i need it

[queen delta]

Now that i think about it, i wonder if my plontoro idea is even possible to implement

And a rocket launcher? I love it

[bitter drift]

it's post moon lord but i need criticism any?

[queen delta]

Better formatting

If you want, i can do it for you

[bitter drift]

pls

i have 2 more suggestions to make

maybe i should make the mini rockets homing?

[vague olive]

Adir if you need help with formatting look in pins in #suggestions-voting

There are a few formats there

[queen delta]

The Crystal Excavator

Made with: Mineral mortar + 20 crystal shards + 20 luminite bars + 30 pearlstone blocks

The Crystal Excavator shoots a rocket, which will explode and launch two mini rockets upon hitting an enemy or block. The mini rockets explode 3 times but do less damage with a smaller blast radius.

[bitter drift]

thank you

[queen delta]

I feel like you could increase the amount of pearlstone blocks needed and decrease the amount of luminite bars needed

[bitter drift]

ok should i make the mini rockets homing?

[queen delta]

Hmm, i dunno honestly

It depends on how the weapon works

[bitter drift]

it's an upgrade to the mineral mortal so the mini rockets will be shot diagonally

so what do you think?

Amaterasu?

anyone?

can i please get your opinion?

[placid moth]

I almost never touch ranger, let alone anything else other than guns/bows

Mostly Bows but

y'know, I think it should be given the ability to pass through blocks at the cost of a shorter fuse time

Because, Providence is right after you craft this weapon.

[bitter drift]

rocket's doesn't have a fuse time iirc

[placid moth]

Ah, okay.

[bitter drift]

but should i make it homing

[placid moth]

I have been using too much Loose Cannon

[bitter drift]

lol

[pliant bone]

The exception being rockets launched from the Grenade launcher

[placid moth]

Shure.

[bitter drift]

i use the black box to much

[pliant bone]

Smh Original master race.

[bitter drift]

😄

any way should i make them homing?

i'm gonna do it

[vague olive]

Depends on the angle tbh

If its a small angle then no

[bitter drift]

here is my 4th of my hallow suggestions
4.crystal doll (summon)
made with: rainbow crystal staff, 30 crystal shards and 15 deadleas bar.

summons a hallowed crystal golem, this golem throw crystal shards at enemies, this golem cam only throw 40 crystals after the golem thrown 40 crystals he despawn,
forcing you to spawn another golem.
golem can fly.

now to wait for the criticism

[vague olive]

I don't really see the point of a summon despawning

[bitter drift]

it is kind of he is using his body to attack

• there are 2 type of summons mobile and immobile

[vague olive]

Also isnt the rainbow crystal staff post ml?

[bitter drift]

ya but it sucks and there is already a calamity post moon lord sentry that is much better

[vague olive]

You might want to change the recipe from daedalus bars to lumenite

[bitter drift]

ok

[vague olive]

Also you should include a reason for why you think it should be added in your suggestion

[bitter drift]

this is a doc

so all are connected to the same reason and when the doc is done i'll show the reason

[vague olive]

Alright

[bitter drift]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ofmCETV9m-Ac6STZE_5Q9f9qDb3Ze_1R-2FINZ-CFfw/edit?usp=sharing
IT'S DONE WHAT DO YOU THINK

W W
U

[placid moth]

Crystal Serpent upgrades are nice ngl

[bitter drift]

this was a scrap (made by me)

[glad loom]

you can probably find a better name than unicorn cry

[bitter drift]

1000 years later

[ashen warren]

rogue weapon should be crystalline upgrade imo

should end in -alline

[bitter drift]

there is a crystalline upgrade post moon lord

[ashen warren]

oh right

maybe sidegrade

[bitter drift]

na

[ashen warren]

idk there’s already a crystal themed rogue maybe unnecessary

[bitter drift]

wot are you talking about

i didn't put a crystal there rogue weapon there

should i post it?

[zenith hazel]

that levi suggestion tho

[bitter drift]

[pliant bone]

no.

[zenith hazel]

let’s make it B I G because why not

[distant gyro]

that's quite a suggestion

[frail mantle]

why: idk

[fickle spruce]

WHY: idk

[vocal grotto]

Why do we need why

[fickle spruce]

because

[distant gyro]

so you know why they want it to be added ofc

it's a gimmick of convincing people

the more convincing the more likely the suggestion gets sent

[vocal grotto]

I sincerely hope my suggestion gets in tbh

[fickle spruce]

well the leviathan suggestion is convincing

[vocal grotto]

ikr, so much logical evidence to support their reasoning

[zenith hazel]

let’s make it wailord-sized because yes

[vocal grotto]

Lets replace all enemy sprites in the game with eidolon wyrms

Because reasons

[fickle spruce]

replace all worms with eidolon wyrms

[vocal grotto]

No, all enemies

[fickle spruce]

no u

[zenith hazel]

imo, that plantera suggestion is pretty nice and punishing to cheesers

kinda afraid that it’d be a lot more similar to polterghast

[fickle spruce]

who cheeses plantera like that

[zenith hazel]

some people

[fickle spruce]

just make her despawn on the surface

ez

[vocal grotto]

So, devs start to look at suggestions once it has 90+ stars?

[zenith hazel]

and when they get sent

[frail mantle]

suggestions are sent into the dev server after receiving 90 stars

[zenith hazel]

which also takes time

[vocal grotto]

OK. ~~reactbot time ~~

[fickle spruce]

when it reaches 90 stars it gets sent to their very secret channels yes

[vocal grotto]

"Very secret channels"

I wonder how many channels there are that us mortals cannot see

[quiet abyss]

Anyways ye, when suggestions reach 90 stars, eventually someone will deliever them to the dev server where they'll be posted in a channel for devs to look at

[young fog]

That's the point of the halibut cannon - it's meant to be overpowered. Making it just drop after SCAL removes all of that

also the one in a million drop rate kinda "balances" it

[ashen warren]

Brrruh momentum

And as we all know RNG is a bitchass mf

[frail mantle]

i think i remember seeing a suggestion about making the Halifat Cannon exclusively post-Polter and making it not scale with progression

[vague olive]

Didnt fab say the halibut cannon is not getting nerfed a while ago?

[terse sundial]

It's more of an Easter egg weapon at this point

[vague olive]

If you think it's op, don't use it

[terse sundial]

1 in a million drop chance

[obtuse glacier]

better remove scalling form halibut cannon and give halibut cannon dealing damage form max scalling

if usable after Scal

[terse sundial]

Look, I get where you are coming from with it, but :
A: It suffers post-Provi
B: It isn't a serious weapon at this point and is just an Easter Egg

That is how it will stay

[bitter topaz]

the entire point of the weapon is to be an OP easter egg

[terse sundial]

^

Exactly why I made

[obtuse glacier]

or i have better idea

rework Halibut cannon makes this gun be normal and add new gun

that be OP

[terse sundial]

It's an Easter egg weapon

It's not going to be reworked because it's a reference to TotalHalibut

[frail mantle]

this is the one i meant

[bitter topaz]

i have an even BETTER idea
leave the fuckin' halibut alone, because anything that's done to it is gonna affect the entire point of the weapon negatively

[obtuse glacier]

fine

[bitter topaz]

anyway, drop the topic now or i'll be handing out warns shortly

[obtuse glacier]

better will be leave that

[lost agate]

Uh, you do know halibut doesnt do shit for dmg post scal right?

[obtuse glacier]

In return of Halibut make that weapon have chance to drop 1/14000605(yeah another one easter egg) before beating Scal then after beating her(Calamitas is female) return to 1/1000000

then we can say it will be more balanced

[lost agate]

Uh no

[zenith hazel]

why

[lost agate]

Again, its useless post scal

[obtuse glacier]

fine we can stop talking about and leave halibut

[bitter topaz]

smh
i told you to drop the topic or you'd get a warn, and i'm a man of my word

[open prairie]

i mean

[obtuse glacier]

fine

[open prairie]

eh never mind actually lmao

[fickle spruce]

sigh

[radiant meadow]

@queen delta have you tried enraged plantera in the most recent version?
pretty sure enraged plantera is faster in calamity than vanilla

[terse sundial]

It is akaik

[distant gyro]

Pretty sure it is faster than in vanilla yea

But Yata might want it faster

also he has certainly tried enraged plantera, in BR though

[radiant meadow]

br is different

you get tracers, asgardian, statis' belt, etc

[smoky wagon]

Why would you want it to be pernamently enraged

Sometimes it gets enraged in large underground arenas for a brief moment and i think having it permanently pissed would be aggrovating

[queen sail]

It’s hard to make large arenas in the underground jungle for plant because if it doesn’t detect that you’re close to a bunch of jungle grass blocks, it counts that you’re in the reg underground instead

[smoky wagon]

You have to use acutated blocks

[queen sail]

Actuator Rod 2.0 memes

@radiant meadow I remember how GRealm has the bloatbug explode into a poisonous cloud that doesn’t do damage, but inflicts a debuff on the player

You could have the plagued enemy explode into a toxic cloud like the toxic minnow

I’m not sure about how it’ll affect enemies though

[radiant meadow]

I'll edit my message then

[frank stratus]

HK infection when

[placid moth]

@fathom ice That's a really unfortunate spawn.

[small talon]

wtf, thats NOT suppose to happen

you got extremely unlucky

[fathom ice]

lol yeah

that whole world is pretty fucked up

[fickle spruce]

it's rare and it's not easy to fix so i doubt it would be changed

[fathom ice]

well worth a try

[wanton surge]

@fathom ice was it a small map?

[fathom ice]

nah it was large @wanton surge

[radiant meadow]

bombs can only break hellstone in hardmode

[frank stratus]

🤔

[sand umbra]

The OED ain't a bomb, though--

[frank stratus]

i haven't tried using the oED yet

[terse sundial]

I approve of this

I very much find it silly that it will refuse to break hellstone, and that it was even on the blacklist to begin with

[radiant meadow]

bombs were likely used as a reference point is what I'm saying

[sand umbra]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[echo horizon]

yall like my suggestion

[young fog]

its seems a bit low-effort to be honest

[echo horizon]

i edited it

i dunno explosives are fun

[young fog]

also explosives have been coded so they can't receive any damage increases

[zenith hazel]

aren't class suggestions not allowed?

[echo crag]

Doesn't the Suggestions Do and Don't forbid suggesting new classes due to the time it takes to make them?

[rustic ember]

Technically you have rocket lauchers for that

[echo horizon]

oopsies

[zenith hazel]

also the explosive class thing sounds really niche

there's barely any explosives later on

[echo horizon]

deleted it

[queen delta]

Day after day, the #suggestions-voting_read_pins suggestion grows more needed...

[young fog]

every day, we stray further from god

[echo horizon]

every day i make a suggestion theres always a negative thing said by any person

i mean its ok

[opal barn]

Please read the pinned document in #suggestions-voting next time @echo horizon

[zenith hazel]

constructive criticism

[echo horizon]

if every suggestion has a bad thing in it i should stop making suggestions any way

[smoky wagon]

Nerf the spawn rate of cnidirions

Yeah no thanks

They drop actual useful items

[echo crag]

They grant you an early access to one of the best pre-EoC armors.

[smoky wagon]

Stormlions are much less important in comparison

[echo crag]

All they do is grant one item for one boss summoner.

[zenith hazel]

and triumph potion

[smoky wagon]

For triumph potions you can just zerg a prehardmode underground desert

make an alt world

[echo crag]

Cnidrions are useful, that's why they are a threat.

Making them rarer would make getting even enough Victide Bars for one armor piece much more diffucult than it should be.

[smoky wagon]

Most people dont get the armor pre-DS

Just the victide weapon

Then you can kill DS with it easily

[echo crag]

True.

I do that too.

But the same thing applies.

You would just be making life harder for everyone by nerfing the soawn rate of Cnidrions.

[smoky wagon]

Maybe there could be a limit to how many can be alive at once

[echo crag]

^

[smoky wagon]

Like how other minibosses are limited to 1 alive at a time

[echo crag]

That would solve the issue without making life harder.

[young fog]

I don't mean a massive spawn rate nerf, just enough that you don't get cucked over by having 3 of them on your ass at once

[ivory heart]

Fragile Essence
Activates Fragility Mode. You deal 3x damage but enemies deal 2x damage, then drain 10% of your max health with each hit. Health regeneration is cut in half.
Unique death message:
(Player Name) was shattered by (Enemy Name).
This had a 50% chance to appear when killed by an attack, before the max life drain, or 100% when killed by the max life drain.

[echo crag]

Does that belong here?

Or in #suggestions-voting?

[rustic ember]

Both

[ivory heart]

Suggestion for a suggestion

It’s to suggest a suggestion before you suggest it in suggestions

[rustic ember]

You can show you suggestions here for people's opinion

[ivory heart]

Is it good

[rustic ember]

Also if they drain 10% of your max health then there's no point of it doing x2 damage right?

ohh

nvm

I get it

[ivory heart]

Good or bad

I

[frail mantle]

why would you like this item to be added

[ivory heart]

An extra challenge

[young fog]

as if there isn't already enough challenge

[zenith hazel]

that’d be way too good for nohits

[ivory heart]

Defiled, Fragility, Iron Heart, Armageddon
D.F.I.A sounds fun

[echo crag]

Nah.

D.A.D.I.F sounds fun.

[rustic ember]

^^

[ivory heart]

YES

[echo crag]

Death, Armageddon, Defiled, Iron Heart, Fragility.

[ivory heart]

YES PLE@SE

[young fog]

there's already 4 extra modes

[rustic ember]

5 if you count revengance

[ivory heart]

I dare you to do SCal DADIF

[frail mantle]

well that relies on your suggestion being added

[echo crag]

If ML DAD took 200 attempts for CrabBar to do, imagine DADIF Moon Lord.

[ivory heart]

Ok

It’s on

[echo crag]

Let's see how it does.

[ivory heart]

Go to #suggestions-voting and please star I need something besides Spectrate

[echo crag]

Already starred, mate.

[frail mantle]

i feel like this suggestion is a bit "add another difficulty lole"

[radiant meadow]

@ivory heart there's no need to constantly show off that your suggestion is sent and there is also no need to encourage others to star a particular suggestion
People will star a suggestion if they like it and it's good.

[paper torrent]

Heheh. My suggestion has 69 stars.

[young fog]

[paper torrent]

And is it frowned upon to ask others to check out a suggestion? I mean, getting potential stars gets significantly harder as time progresses.

I mean, I am not star begging.

[young fog]

Ye it is

[terse sundial]

its low-key begging

[paper torrent]

Because not everyone is able to check them

[young fog]

and attention seeking

[terse sundial]

not everyone wants to

it just comes off as desperate and annoying when people do that

give it time

[paper torrent]

I mean, I did get some from one I suggested 2 days ago.

[zealous ridge]

I think people check pretty far back, I don’t think people seeing it is nessecarily the problem. If a suggestion isn’t getting stars it’s probably because not enough people like it

it took me a good few days to get 90 stars

[paper torrent]

Oh, that's nice. And that is true.

It is very difficult to criticise your own suggestion due to bias. Unless you know it is gonna be a terrible suggestion.

Aren't game mode suggestions not allowed?

[young fog]

They're not in the doc

[terse sundial]

gamemodes hurt to program

[zealous ridge]

I don’t believe that’s on the document? In any case, it’s not the most original thing to do and adding more difficulty settings would just be overkill, in my opinion. There’s enough settings as it is honestly

[terse sundial]

it may be added soon to the list of things not to suggest

[glad loom]

fuck people are so horny for stars

[terse sundial]

yes

[zenith hazel]

that... is somehow accurate

[paper torrent]

I mean, I like the idea with fragile mode, but I don't see it as necessary. Calamity has enough challenge modes.

[zenith hazel]

at this point, might as well suggest an item that combines all the toughest challenges into one

but that’s pretty unnecessary

[paper torrent]

Right?

[vague olive]

Honestly I think all minibosses should have a map icon

[paper torrent]

A real pain to find the Giant Clam.

[ashen warren]

@mortal oracle alternatively you could keep interstellar stomper and listen to cosmic disgust on your own, easier tbh

[mortal oracle]

thats what i just said at the end

[ashen warren]

mhm

[paper torrent]

I really don't like the suggestion that Defiled Rune makes Rare Item Variants easier to get. They are called Rare Item Variants for a reason.

Not supposed to be easy.

[ashen warren]

^

[elfin nest]

i kinda like it

because its more dificult

[gloomy hazel]

@sacred thorn or maybe increase it even further in Death Mode rather than increasing it on every kill. Otherwise the number would keep going up and you'd have nothing but legendary weapons

[fickle spruce]

what do u need stormlion mandibles for

[young fog]

desert scourge spawner

[ashen warren]

That and some other stuff

[proven tide]

Storm Surge, Triumph Potion

[proven tide]

~~ that swave self-star~~

geddit

@silk lantern why, exactly?

[silk lantern]

It would be cool

[proven tide]

there are a great many things that could be added because they'd be cool, but what does it really add?

[zenith hazel]

“because it would be cool” isn’t too compelling of a reason

[proven tide]

post-polter, you have no new enemies

[paper torrent]

"Because it would be cool." FABSOL! THAT REASON IS UNDENIABLE! ADD IT IN!

[proven tide]

only dog, yharon, drae, scal, yharim, goozma, xeroc...

[silk lantern]

Hey, I didn’t say it needed to be in

[proven tide]

what the flying fuck are you going to use another arkhalis against, especially considering you get the murasama two bosses later?

[silk lantern]

It was something I thought could be fun to use

[proven tide]

hey, spaghetti god, i'm gonna grapple your ass down to this earth and oh wow i've been vaporised who could have seen that coming

[paper torrent]

Usually, my suggestions are for convenience's sake.

[zenith hazel]

but why should everyone else use it?

[full bramble]

true melee

[proven tide]

arkhalis & co don't even count as true melee

[full bramble]

so the good is that DoG is after polterghast

the bad is that DoG is after polterghast
and lack of a better reason

[silk lantern]

I just thought it could be fun to use and that people would enjoy it

[full bramble]

true melee

[proven tide]

ah yes let's grapple ourselves to the devourer of fuckin gods and chop him at four-tile range

that won't go wrong

[silk lantern]

I said it would be much bigger of a swing

[full bramble]

it won't go wrong

ez true melee

[zenith hazel]

so essentially, a grappling hook that attaches to bosses and pulls them closer, something that you probably shouldn’t do considering the final 3’s contact damage

2-shot at best

[silk lantern]

I mean, in some situations it wouldn’t be great, but if you took the risk and got close it could do a bunch of DPS

And I said it partially pulls bosses

[proven tide]

devourer be like

knockback immunity and two vulnerable segments

[zenith hazel]

reverse kb hmm

[proven tide]

frankly, this idea, while definitely cool, could use some reworking

perhaps place it in mid-hardmode

[silk lantern]

Yeah

[proven tide]

additionally, make the yoinkerator a right-click function and the swing a burst fire rather than a constant swoosh

so you'd have to thonk about timing

snag the enemy and shred them but don't just D+M1

[silk lantern]

That is actually a great idea, do you mind if I edit that into the suggestion?

[proven tide]

resuggest it, i'd say

redelivers the notification

Just delete the original

[silk lantern]

Ok

I’ll resuggest later with the new ideas

[proven tide]

@rare lake nerf in what way?

[queen sail]

@rare lake Well

I mean you found it

[proven tide]

please don't remove my magnificent luxoroot

[rare lake]

sorry but it had to be said lol

[proven tide]

n o

[rare lake]

o oke

[proven tide]

it did not Q^Q

Anyhow, nerf in what fashion?

[rare lake]

have you used the luxors gift with the opal striker?

um idk, maybe make it so the projectiles are the same speed for every weapon or something? idk im not a dev

[sterile moon]

@rare lake those projectiles do almost no dmg

[earnest raptor]

Anyhow, nerf in what fashion?
Make them release only 2-3 projectiles per second.

[proven tide]

@sterile moon i don't know what universe you're in

[rare lake]

yeah but they bounce and come out so fast that they literally kill the first phase of hive mind in revengeance in like 10 seconds lol

[sterile moon]

they do dps

[rare lake]

yeah

[sterile moon]

not alot of dmg though

[rare lake]

and they are even more insane with most rouge armor

[proven tide]

menacing accessories + victide alone does 500 single-target DPS from stealth

seriously

three targets or a target of any notable size and that doubles easily

[rare lake]

i just find it funny how things like these are in calamity yet they still have the biome blade as a hardmode weapon

[proven tide]

not even including raider's talisman or obsidian armour

biome blade has to be in hardmode to include pearlsand

[rare lake]

its pearlstone adn you can turn ebonstone into pearlstone with the goblin tinkerer crafting thing forgot the name

its the mythril anvil that really makes it hardmode i think

[sterile moon]

you can?

[rare lake]

unless they changed it yes

[sterile moon]

is that another mod?

[rare lake]

at least for me no

[icy cove]

Yeah thats not in calamity or vanilla

[sterile moon]

^

why?

[rare lake]

why not

that is the question

[earnest raptor]

That gif counts as a shitposting.

[rare lake]

oh hecc

[queen delta]

1. He's dancing way too slow
2. Whats this doing here lol

[rare lake]

um i posted it as a joke and forgot it was shitposting because im stupid

[sterile moon]

delete it?

[rare lake]

i cant

[sterile moon]

???

why not?

[rare lake]

i think you can only delete dm messages

[sterile moon]

no...

[hearty ermine]

mycoroot isnt actualy busted with luxors

[rare lake]

h o w

[hearty ermine]

its sill worse dps than crystalline and seafoam, the damage numbers are too low for it to be busted

[opaque grail]

Luxor's gift isn't op, it's just a nice DPS bonus, I think I replaced it before the granite shrine item

[hearty ermine]

i used it in my rogue playthrough and it was mediocre

[rare lake]

oh ok

[opaque grail]

If there was anything I'd change about Luxor's, I'd say buff the summoner item thing, its sooo useless compared to the rest