but it has more possible directions
#suggestions-discussion
elfin maple
sick bane
you shouldve just gone with chlorophyte bullets as your analogy
elfin maple
no
sick bane
they home
elfin maple
that doesn't work with this
ashen warren
I love this
sick bane
and this is a 2d game. it can't possibly home in more directions than shulker projectiles
ashen warren
Y'all gotta star @ivory heart's suggestion
sick bane
done.
hollow shell
Taxicab means it goes in a general direction but it can only move in a straight cardinal direction at a time
sick bane
thanks
hollow shell
The green line here is a normal ole line
the blue line is that path but using a taxicab path
ashen warren
It's been 3 days on the server and I've already caused drama
sick bane
ohh
ashen warren
i like that
hollow shell
Yeah I'd prefer if you didn't do that Yeetums
sick bane
what are the red and yellow lines?
ashen warren
somewhat sors that octagon thing is pretty good just sayin
sick bane
cool
hollow shell
That the length is the same regardless of the turns it makes to get there
or somethin
elfin maple
blue dot is the player, red dot is the projectile, yellow line is the path the projectile takes
elfin maple
now is not the time for memes
unique vector
stop it with the meming
sick bane
I'd like to make a suggestion. Can y'all offer feedback?
elfin maple
the projectile tries to align to the nearest black line and then goes for the player
unique vector
@ashen warren deleting your messages does nothing to help you by the way
ashen warren
what did i do wrong
elfin maple
you memed in a channel not for memeing
unique vector
^
elfin maple
taxicab is pretty cool
sick bane
Gridlocked Bullet
Made with musket balls or chlorophyte bullets and something else, not quite sure yet
Homes in on enemies, but follows a taxicab pattern
sorry for that long wait, my dad was lecturing me about needing to go outside
What do y'all think?
hollow shell
I assume each increment of the line is 1 block long?
sick bane
either one or 2 blocks, yes
elfin maple
It can be a single unit
hollow shell
If it's a single unit then it's just regular homing lol
sick bane
I know
elfin maple
No it's not
hollow shell
.. how so?
elfin maple
Let me draw another thing to demonstrate
hollow shell
Isn't "a single unit" just 1 pixel?
sick bane
I think 2 blocks would make a nicer jagged line
hollow shell
or does Terraria work in its own unique units
elfin maple
Left is normal homing, right is taxicab
sick bane
is it a block?
elfin maple
A single Terraria unit, which is 1/16th of a tile
elfin maple
It just aligns with the target one one axis at a time
The scale doesn't really matter
sick bane
the whole point of this bullet is to see the taxicab
elfin maple
Rather that trying to align with that target on both the X and Y axis at once,
It aligns with the X axis first, then the Y axis
sick bane
it wouldn't really provide much of an advantage, it would actually be less effective than regular homing
elfin maple
If the target has moved, it will align on the X axis again, then the Y axis and so on until it hits the target
hollow shell
I see
We have different understandings of what "taxicab" entails
fossil torrent
yes 1 unit is 1 ingame pixel
hollow shell
https://youtu.be/K0sUGMvXwK4?t=90
You're asking for something like this, Reb
elfin maple
exactly
hollow shell
We were thinking more like
It still follows the same path as a homing bullet would, but it takes a very squarey angular path
sick bane
I'm saying something that homes like a normal chlorophyte bullet, but looks like the taxicab pattern
elfin maple
Yes
sick bane
It's a purely visual thing, and might even be less effective at homing than chlorophyte bullets
elfin maple
You could just make it go really fast to compensate for that
hollow shell
It could do slightly more damage or move slightly faster than chlorophyte due to the disadvantageous movement pattern
yeah
elfin maple
Like 8%+ damage or something
I'd say a speed of 16 seems reasonable
That way it moves the length of 60 tiles in 1 second
Really fast
sick bane
If it moved that fast, it would need a trail to actually see the taxicab
tired haven
About 120 if I were to guess?
hollow shell
jesus christ
elfin maple
It depends on the weapon, but I'd say about 12-16 units per frame
tired haven
^
hollow shell
Really?
sick bane
Is that faster or slower than what you're describing these bullets
elfin maple
About as fast
sick bane
ok
tired haven
Probably velocity listed on wiki is exactly the amount of units it passes each frame?
elfin maple
Yes
Both the weapon and the ammo type have a projectile speed, and both are taken into account when the weapon is fired
I'm not exactly sure how though
sick bane
ah
sick bane
oh cool
elfin maple
Not sure exactly how it works but that's what I know on the matter
tired haven
There is clear difference between weapons btw if you take smth like flintlock pistol and then sniper rifle with same chloro
proven tide
@gusty geode bad opinion đ¤
sick bane
I was going to say you craft it with chloro bullets and something else
proven tide
perhaps not as many suggestion channels, as that would seriously pad the server chats
young fog
that would kinda be a lotta channels tho
proven tide
and you'd also need corresponding discussion chats, don't forget
elfin maple
Maybe you get a "Tracking Device" dropped from Martian Madness and craft that with chlorophyte bullets to make these
gusty geode
Do we?
probably but it wouldn't be a deal breaker to not have them
tired haven
Most of the time people will either stumble in attempt to sort mix suggestion or post them in wrong channel and be redirected constantly
elfin maple
maybe there could be a set of weapons related to the tracking device?
sick bane
what would the tracking device be made or dropped from?
gloomy hazel
Technically, having multiple suggestions channels of each kind would be nice in a way, IMO
elfin maple
The current suggestion channel could be archived but people could still read it and star existing suggestions
sick bane
I think the saucer shouldn't drop it
elfin maple
Maybe the saucer turrets drop them but not the saucer itself?
sick bane
I think if only ground enemies drop it, it would give an incentive to not just farm saucers
hollow shell
@gusty geode We're trying to bury suggestions
Why do you think we keep raising the star req? 
sick bane
sick bane
where can we pin that
smoky wagon
Neptune's Bounty: Move to Pre-DoG
New Recipe
1 Abyss Blade
15 Depths Cells
15 Lumenyl
5 Tenebris
5 Reaper Tooth
5 Ruinous Souls
Why?
Neptune's Bounty is pretty much hopelessly outclassed in the Cosmilite tier by every other projectile sword. Moving it to the Post-Polterghast tier, which only has three viable melee weapons to use against DoG, could let it get some more substansial use. The dripping effect of the projectiles naturally is effective against worm-type enemies, giving it potential to be viable alongside the tier's other options, as opposed to lacking any niche Post-DoG. If neccesary the base damage could be lowered to keep it from being to powerful when used against DoG.
i need feedback
sick bane
nice
hollow shell
Well
stuff that's usually effective against worm-types isn't very effective against DoG
considering the body takes so little damage
smoky wagon
true but still
elfin maple
I like the idea
tight gorge
I don't see no reason to not move it before DoG. I like the crafting tree but don't use it because it's so outclassed when you can get it
I craft it nonetheless
smoky wagon
i love the look and idea of the weapon but it feels really out of place
elfin maple
It is oddly satisfying to finish weapon crafting trees to be fair
smoky wagon
it feels much more fitting as another post-polter abyss themed weapon
hollow shell
I'll give you that
sick bane
do you need it to craft another sword?
smoky wagon
no
hollow shell
No
sick bane
that might also help
If you need it to make something better, then you'd have to craft it, right?
smoky wagon
even if you needed it for like exoblade the weapon itself isnt notable
sick bane
true
tight gorge
A lot of the weapons for Exoblade aren't even used properly
sick bane
also true
smoky wagon
flarefrost 
proven tide
in there with that slick self-star
tight gorge
You make it and put it away until you make Exoblade
proven tide
^ this tbh
smoky wagon
floodtide projectiles should latch onto enemies
tight gorge
Terratomere is the only one that comes to mind that's useful in terms of battle prowess
smoky wagon
ill save that for another day
hollow shell
And guess how you craft Terratomere :P
proven tide
uwu
tight gorge
With a bunch of useless swords đ
elfin maple
@gusty geode Maybe combine Enemy and Item suggestions to Content suggestions
proven tide
^
content, adjustment, and miscellaneous
items/enemies, balances/server tweaks, and whateverthefuckâ˘
hollow shell
balance and server should not be in the same category lol
proven tide
if you put balance, items, and enemies in the same chat, you have 85% of #suggestions-voting anyway
hollow shell
Yeah so put balance in a different category
elfin maple
mhm
hollow shell
or other changes to existing thing
and then have a channel for adding new things
and a channel for server ones
and then the wildcard
smoky wagon
i feel like rebalancing is something which i wish more people suggested
proven tide
four channels
smoky wagon
calamity has alot of forgotten weapons
proven tide
plus disc.
smoky wagon
especially melee lol
elfin maple
Content Suggestions - Suggest any new content to the mod.
Server Suggestions - Suggest changes or additions to the server
Balance Suggestions - Suggest changing things in the mod
Other Suggestions - Suggest anything that doesn't fall into the above categories
proven tide
additions, adjustments, server, and other
hollow shell
I feel like balance might be a bit of a specific one, actually
We don't get a lot of suggestions based solely around buffing or nerfing things
Having it be changes to existing content would be more fitting, imo
hollow shell
hollow shell
Yes but there are probably other things too
elfin maple
@sick bane Add how taxicab means it aligns to the enemy on the X axis, then the Y axis, then the X axis and so on and maybe give some examples
I don't think most people are going to know what that means
sick bane
wouldn't developers know what taxicab means
elfin maple
yeah
hollow shell
Or something like "meaning it can only travel directly vertically or horizontally at any given time"
elfin maple
yes
elfin maple
that is a very good description
hollow shell
best to explain
elfin maple
the people are the ones who are deciding if your suggestion is worthy
so you gotta make sure they know what you're talking about
sick bane
better?
hollow shell
Ye that's a good description
sick bane
thx
elfin maple
I don't think it's necessary for it to only change direction every 2 tiles
sick bane
If it changes less often, you can see the changes more
elfin maple
How about only when it's aligned to the enemy it changes direction
hollow shell
well
hollow shell
that wouldn't necessarily be taxicab anymore
sick bane
so from my knowledge, this is pretty much just 2 tile big units
at least, that's my idea
am I correct there?
ivory heart
Spectrate
Rare version of the Last Prism, 1% Moon Lord drop chance, ignores 5% of DR in enemies.
Significantly slower mana drain but only slightly more damage. Fabsol gets to decide these.
Sprite is an inverted brightness Last Prism. Red stays red, and blue stays blue, but black becomes white and white becomes black.
elfin maple
sick bane
Isn't that just a buffed last prism?
ivory heart
Looks like a tricky game of Snake
elfin maple
Yeah
ivory heart
Thatâs what rare variants are
sick bane
oh
sick bane
I was under the impression that RIVs had some improvements, but also some nerfs
ivory heart
Taxicab animation looks like a game of Snake but the pellets try to avoid you.
elfin maple
That's my demonstration
sick bane
like the helstorm and it's RIV
hollow shell
RIVs do have upsides and downsides
I don't think any are straight buffs, but they are different in a way that's (usually) generally better
elfin maple
The white dot is the target, the red dot is the projectile, and the yellow trail is just to show the projectile's movement
ivory heart
Admittedly
gusty geode
Made necessary adjustments
proven tide
@gloomy hazel Dude, really?
hollow shell
So basically, make slow high-damage weapons more effective against DoG?
proven tide
DoG is over 300 segments long
get a dark spark or similar and run across a platform above him in the opposite direction to how he's moving
elfin maple
@sick bane add this gif for reference
White dot = Target
Red dot = Projectile
Yellow trail = Movement of the projectile for reference
proven tide
you'd fuck him up in no time 'cause you'd not be hitting the same segments
and you could swing the beam back along the way you came every couple of seconds for an extra many thousands of damage
it just doesn't click out
gloomy hazel
Well, it would prevent players from doing heavy damage to "multiple" sections
proven tide
true
gloomy hazel
so the heaviest damage goes to only one section instead of like 5 sections in a single hit
I should rewrite it
Okay, I've updated the reason
elfin maple
Is it okay if I post my gif in #suggestions-voting to clarify what taxicab means?
hollow shell
It's probably fine.
elfin maple
ok
hollow shell
as in
no need for the gif
The description SenseiCy gave is fine and if anybody is confused they can just look up "taxicab" and see instantly what it means
elfin maple
ok
gloomy hazel
I've heard also that the DoG was hard to balance against piercing weapons, so I thought having a temporary DR for all the body segments would settle it up.
ashen warren
I don't know if you change is neccesary.
radiant meadow
@unique vector forgot to mention this lol, but if that change happens
what happens when the sentinels are removed next update 
lost agate
@unique vector they despawn after p1 because of a bug
hollow shell
A bug?
unique vector
apparently, yeah
hollow shell
You sure, Shucks?
radiant meadow
that's why it happened in the first place
if you kept them alive, p2 wouldn't spawn
I have these epic quotes from Ozzatron explaining it all 
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/512927576914788352/522188000545734656/unknown.png
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/512927576914788352/522191263672434689/unknown.png
(thots being guardians)
"this" being doggo p2 not spawning
queen delta
military time đ
radiant meadow
I stole the screenshot from someone else, I don't have military time
frank stratus
i forgot if calamity added the DG to the minimap
but i think the wyrm doesn't have an icon because it isn't a boss
queen delta
DG has a icon
frank stratus
yeah i remember that i think
hollow shell
@gaunt umbra Could you add a reason why to that suggestion?
@ivory heart Reason why?
(and, couldn't come up with a more unique effect, eh?)
ivory heart
There is no rare item variant for moon lord drops
ivory heart
Carnage exists and the True Bloody Edge also exists
It does not matter is the original item is used in a recipe or crafted, rare item variants still exist
queen sail
I mean
quiet abyss
Itâs not really revelant that dark spark already use last prism in its recipe
Itâs getting two last prism like weapons in pretty much the same tier
Last prism is a pretty unique weapon, and having a rare variant thatâs estentially just a superior version of it in the same tier feels weird, not to mention taking away some of last prismâs unique feel
Plus, since dark spark already exist for last prism, I feel that a rare variant of another, less used ML drop would be a better fit.
Lunar flare and the 2 sentry staffs comes to mind (especially since thereâs currently 0 summon rare variants)
queen sail
Rainbow Crystal staff is borderline useless unless youâre fighting slow enemies
Unless it got buffed by the vanilla changes or something
Idk
hollow shell
Maybe a rare variant of Meowmere which just meows a fuckton and that somehow hurts enemies
queen sail
I always use the lunar portal staff over the rainbow crystal staff
quiet abyss
Rare variants donât have to be the same as the original weapon, it could act quite different
queen sail
Also yeah that ^
queen delta
How about a rare variant of nebula blaze which drops from ML?
quiet abyss
Most notable example would be lead wizard
queen sail
Maybe AD @queen delta
Actually, maybe not, AD and the Pillars are the same tier
Wait, actually no, Helstorn and Hellborn are the same tier and you can go for either or
Fuck my head hurts man
queen delta
Also Pinkie, most rare variants are the same tier as their counterpart
quiet abyss
Most, true
queen delta
Theyre just rare enough to not easily replace the common counterpart
quiet abyss
But the suggestion is essentially a stronger last prism with no gimmicks
queen sail
So i guess the riv nebula blaze could be and AD drop then
quiet abyss
A lunar flare rare variant would be cool
Itâs a nice weapon that many people look past in favor of last prism
queen sail
Last prismâs only downfall in vanilla was the ungodly amount of mana it consumed
Even then it wasnât enough
gaunt umbra
oh
radiant meadow
astral injection basically removes that problem
radiant meadow
the mana recovery on that is pretty insane
only stuff like yharim's crystal or vehemence outpace it
quiet abyss
Celebration 
queen sail
Lunar Flare is good but Last Prism was fucking legendary in comparison to that
Celebration is an outright joke in comparison to SDMG
radiant meadow
celebration is really bad even with the buff
queen sail
Megashark upgrade over fireworks launcher
frank stratus
celebration memeing
radiant meadow
I heard, celebration mkII basically replaces it as a revamp though
gaunt umbra
a reason? uhhhhhh i don't really have one.............hm. I like to consider it a boss in a way? Because of it's really high health and extreme difficulty to kill, it's a very unique enemy and would just be cool to have. I know, it's not a very convincing reason but overall he's just really amazing to fight.
queen sail
The ML swords are decent at least
smoky wagon
Oh in vanilla
queen sail
Rainbow Crystal Staff is Celebration tier
radiant meadow
Terrarian has over half of its potential dps destroyed by i frames
queen sail
If say the Rainbow Crystal staff was a laser disco instead of what it is rn
quiet abyss
In my view I think itâd be better if the weapons that are to have rare variants be the less commonly used ones, so they can get some spotlight
Like how the pretty much ignored plasma rifle has a cool rare variant that rains lasers from the sky
queen sail
Then it would be worth it
radiant meadow
Celebration MkII
queen sail
Like if it spam fired lasers everywhere instead if âUwU sparklesâ then people would use it
Also when the weapon upgrades come out for 1.4 expect this mod to abuse the fuck out of them for even more broken weapons later on
frank stratus
terse sundial
@ivory heart this is petty but all RIVs that drop from bosses have a 2.5% chance of dropping
echo horizon
hi
should i keep fungal symbiote for the rest of my game
i mean till bumblefuckbirb
hollow shell
#help-advice-read-pins for tips and stuff
(it's best in pre-Hardmode due to the prevalence of true melee weapons, but its damage scales with weapon damage so it's always an option
post-ML and post-DoG you'll almost definitely have better options for your accessory slots tho)
frank stratus
i think you guys can delete the messages in #suggestions-voting now
small talon
ty for getting it fast
frank stratus
yeah shucks is a good mod
lost agate
Geez how many of these are gonna come?
small talon
hope no more, you guys dont deserve this, but if more come be ready fast pls
frail mantle
tbh we should get one of those bots where you have to react with a special emoji to gain proper access to the server
small talon
make it a suggestion and ill star it
lost agate
You could do that yes, but we're trying to find a solution to this since its already tiring and dumb
zenith hazel
is 75 platinum a bit too much for hm?
frail mantle
you mean as the buy price of an item?
zenith hazel
I'm referring to 75 platinum dropping from a critter in the suggestion
lost agate
Depends on how rare it would spawn
If its like halibut tiers of rarity, maybe ok
Otherwise its way too much money
2-3 platinums would be reasonable
frank stratus
if it was halibut tier that would be rng
lost agate
Rng fortune
frail mantle
"oh you're just a bit lucky? have 75 platinum"
wraith dock
ok ok ok we can compromise maybe like 12 or something but it's like super exceedingly obnoxiously rare
lost agate
Still maybe a bit much i dunno
If its THAT rare i think at least 50-20 would be better
zenith hazel
lottery pig, hmm
frail mantle
Shadowspec Bars can't be used in suggestion recipes
lost agate
You could change it to calamitous essence
queen sail
Even if that sounds more like an Untouchable weapon tbh
And even then the description um
Doesnât really make it sound worth
ashen warren
well i purge this thing
zenith hazel
isn't elemental eruption already used in photoviscerator's recipe?
ashen warren
The Nitron is a legendary weapon and is the final flamethrower in the flamethrowers line
zenith hazel
that doesn't really answer the question
I was just wondering the purpose of having another elemental eruption despite photoviscerator being an upgraded version of the eruption
queen delta
Also you cant just suggest a donor weapon without donating...
ashen warren
ii donated 20 US dollars
zenith hazel
it's $50 now
ashen warren
i donated on december 2018
mystic sandal
actually it only begins at the start of september
hollow shell
^
mystic sandal
so they can still do the $20 and get an item
hollow shell
Also didnt you already suggest that, Cultist?
mystic sandal
also shadowspec bars aren't allowed in suggestions
hollow shell
Yes indeed
ashen warren
đ
queen delta
Im thinking of donating $20 on september just to make a charâs name something super complicated and hard to say
zenith hazel
oh, my mistake then
mystic sandal
actually the devs decide that
ashen warren
those stats are suggestive
mystic sandal
it really doesn't matter is the stats are suggestive or not
ashen warren
i am a skilled player but a not so good suggester
zenith hazel
very splatoon-y, I love it 
gusty geode
^
ashen warren
the suggestion of inkthrower is đ
mystic sandal
i used to love splatoon and still love most of the stuff excluding the gameplay since i just got bored of it, so that's actually incredibly correct
bitter drift
is there any problems with my suggestion of a RIV for the crystal serpent?
zenith hazel
pretty good ngl, your reason is a bit subjective tho
bitter drift
for those that don't care they can cheese but some do
frail mantle
Why do people want to make literally the first bosses you fight in the game harder
tired haven
Because yes
icy cove
Thats also on the suggestion don't doc
bitter drift
can you even call it a boss
zenith hazel
besides, king slime is too easy with or without ropes anyway
tired haven
Well yes
zenith hazel
it's just running simulator and pray that his teleportations don't kill you
bitter drift
not on melee
zenith hazel
even then, yoyos
frail mantle
KS is the first boss in the game, itâs meant to be easy
bitter drift
yes amazon
tired haven
@split quiver please remove that already, violates suggestion "don't"s and makes little sense
bitter drift
ok now that that is done
can i get some criticism on my suggestion? it's up in suggestions
i need to know if it is good
zenith hazel
again, your reasoning is a bit weird, considering they are RARE item variants, ofc you're not gonna find them sometimes
fishing for a rare weapon is pretty much the same thing
bitter drift
tbh yes
zenith hazel
keep in mind that crystal serpent has a 0.5% chance to be obtained, meaning your RIV has to be rarer than that
zenith hazel
and guess what is the lowest percentage for a RIV to drop? 0.5%
bitter drift
0.1
tired haven
It's kinda weird that the tiers of your og and riv items are drastically different
ngl
bitter drift
well not my fault that post moon lord is the ONLY place the hallow get a change
tired haven
Maybe it shouldn't be a rare item then and just drop/craftable?
zenith hazel
your reason being "it's hard to find a RIV in my playthrough because I'm unlucky" with >0.5% drop rates, decreasing the odds even further won't help much
bitter drift
ok then i think an upgrade will be good crabbar
tired haven
Ye, upgrade should be nice
bitter drift
that is not a reason bravioli
zenith hazel
bitter drift
i think of unholy essences lumenite bars souls of night (this serpent is based on the Adam and Eve story)
zenith hazel
what I'm saying is, you suggesting a RIV of a weapon with a 0.5% chance to be obtained (thus making the RIV even rarer) while the lowest chance of getting a RIV is 0.5% is kinda contradictory to your reason
bitter drift
any way i'm deleting it to make a new one (the version of it that is an upgrade to this serpent)
Unholy snake (post moon lord mage) rare variant to the crystal serpent.
Description: "god has cursed this snake for making sins"
Made by: a crystal serpent, 10 unholy essences, 5 lumenite bars and 10 souls of night.
What it does: shoot 3 holy flaming balls that pierce and split when they hit an enemy (pierce 3 times split into 2 projectiles)
The projectiles made by the splitting will explode on contact with an enemy burning enemies they hit with holy flames, explosion does high damage with it's low explosion radius.
why:
i thought of making an upgrade to the crystal serpent or a fishing weapon in general and i thought of the spreading biomes.
(those that have almost all the attention if that wasn't for the jungle and dungeon)
and with the hallow having a completely lack of content in calamity at all (the only biome that doesn't have a calamity boss made for it by the way[don't say prov she is a multi biome boss])
so i of giving this weapon an upgrade to the crystal serpent, it will give the hallow the tiniest content add in history and it deserve it.
what do you you think of it now?
arctic tapir
@split quiver no
Itâs on the âdonâtâ list
Why? Because even if you canât cheese king slime heâs still really easy and extremely simple
bitter drift
ok CAN SOME DELETE THAT SUGGESTION THAT IS ON THE DON'TS
tepid root
A battle between 2 gods? But SCal isn't a god, is she?
queen sail
Sheâs powerful than most of the âgodsâ you fight but again
God is a title in Calamity
tepid root
Fair enough
still cliff
She acts like a god i guess
radiant meadow
@ashen warren 1. donor weapons do not belong in suggestions. If you donated, then send it to one of the people who take donor weapons.
2. you're not allowed to use shadowspec bars
fickle spruce
good suggestion i cba to get a truffle and mine chlorophyte just for a set that easily gets outclassed
ivory heart
Calamitaic Soul Artifact
Calamity
Combines the power of the soul artifacts
Crafted using all four soul artifacts and 100 Cinderplate.
worthy fiber
To be frank that's both imbalanced and unnecessary
ivory heart
Saving space
But you do have a point
At what stage of the game are the soul artifacts obtained?
hollow shell
Varies
ivory heart
Replace Cinderplate with 5 Calamitous Essence
smoky wagon
Is calamitaic a word
ivory heart
Seems like one
hollow shell
The adjective form of Calamity is Calamitous . _.
ivory heart
Ok
Calamitous Soul Artifact
Calamity
Combines the power of the soul artifacts
When fighting against Calamity you get +15% damage
Crafted using all four soul artifacts and 5 Calamitous Essence.
+15% damage increase if either Calamitas or Supreme Calamitas is alive.
civic pond
but why
civic pond
ehhhh
zenith hazel
so essentially a +40% damage boost when fighting scal
civic pond
thats kind of a huge boost
civic pond
thats kind of a huge boost
zenith hazel
raiderâs talisman for 80%
radiant meadow
"why not" is never a good reason
ivory heart
Keep in mind this is post SCal
civic pond
good lord
ivory heart
You need Calamitous Essence to craft it
radiant meadow
post SCal still needs to be balanced
zenith hazel
this would kill clone in br so quickly
civic pond
quickly?
zenith hazel
itâs not even fair
civic pond
i somehow doubt it would appear on screen
zenith hazel
essentially, summoner benefits the most from this
radiant meadow
remember that "why not" as a reason usually goes to show that there was little effort in the suggestion
as for answering the why not, there are many other things of higher priority that needs sprites than something that is only justified by a "why not" (see patron items)
civic pond
oh yes.
zenith hazel
this accessory allows for 10 slots (2 yharon sons for 8) + 3 guardians + the 9 slots from the 3 statis accessories + the slots from auric tesla + external slot boosters
thatâs like... over 24 minions
ivory heart
Woah
civic pond
24
zenith hazel
probably 30 if weâre counting auric tesla
civic pond
ivory heart
Now I can summon my Slime army of 24
hollow shell
Holy Water & Unholy Water, Rifter
also it's not hard to just place a dirt block down and put the seed on it
it'll spread onto non-dirt stuff
hollow shell
dirt
zenith hazel
how?
zenith hazel
thereâs an entire desert
hollow shell
Clent's a bit extreme tho
civic pond
eh
zenith hazel
how does one run out of sand
civic pond
I find breaking demon alters that cause even more corruption is just retarded
zenith hazel
besides, DS drops sand
ivory heart
If I want to harvest Crimstone only for Flesh Blocks, getting lots of blood water would take a lot of sand.
Ok
hollow shell
Don't you have an entire V half?
Or are you in a Corruption world
vague olive
Make another world?
ivory heart
But letâs assume AI got crimson
hollow shell
Makin another world is also a bit extreme
vague olive
Its easy to have a second world for farming blocks
ivory heart
And plus for people that need tons of Demonite Brick
hollow shell
Demonite Brick?
Nothing converts/corrupts into that
ivory heart
Evil Seeding is more fine tuned, to target a small area
But Demonite Brick is crafted from Ebonstone
civic pond
I'm confused
ivory heart
And Demonite Ore
hollow shell
I see
ivory heart
Well if you need a lot of evil blocks in a small area
Itâs also a good way to secretly plant crimson in your friendâs Corrupt world
hollow shell
I mean, if you need tons of Demonite Brick, or tons of Crimstone for making Flesh Blocks, then the Clentaminator is definitely a better solution
hollow shell
It'll spread either way
you can dig around a large space and clentaminate that
I do that for my deserts to get light & dark shards
ivory heart
Ok
hollow shell
@elder smelt Not happening. See the "Suggestion Don'ts" document in pins
(Admittedly it's a greyer area cuz of the Obsidian Armor and Gladiator Armor changes, but I'm pretty sure that's cuz those two had no effects to begin with)
opaque grail
I love that king piggy suggest
Since its like all the money you'll ever need for a long time when it spawns and its just a rly funny joke, make it like 1/1,000,000 to spawn
also we need king piggy trophy
like a boss trophy
opaque grail
until you have to reforge that is
I once spent an entire platinum at an average of 50 silver per reforge to get unreal on a gun
i forget what gun it was, but god damn (idk why I typed rifle first before I edited)
civic pond
winged ice
I lost 15 platinum to reforging the community
opaque grail
but at that point (especially since u can buy boss summons and I coudnt) moneys easy to get
ashen warren
That king piggy would need a super low spawn rate lol
ashen warren
Def, otherwise you could zerg potion and get a lot of money early hardmode
terse sundial
thats not how spawnrates work but the point gets across
ashen warren
How do they work exactly?
opaque grail
well if for every spawn that can be the king pig, it has a 1/1,000,000 chance of being the king pig
and if u zerg it, thats more spawns and therefore more chances for a pig
opaque grail
is there a limit to how low a chance can be?
terse sundial
Terraria spawns are based on a slot system
there is a cap to this, and the game picks and chooses what to spawn based on the enemies internal npc slots
and akaik, it can't get to 1/1 million
ashen warren
Thats very interesting, yet confusing at the same time
terse sundial
mhm
but yes, if you wanted it to be a rare spawn, just say that in the initial post
ashen warren
Oh man now im boggling my head around to try and understand it
opaque grail
oh right
terraria cant be normal with its programming
it cant be like LITERALLY EVERY GAME PAST THE NES lmao
hollow shell
(Super Mario 64 also uses a slot system due to memory limitations)
terse sundial
certain npcs also have checks that need to be fulfilled to spawn also
opaque grail
but terraria is a computer game, and it gets updated
hollow shell
Well I mean technically Terraria does use a chance system
It's not Rand like drop chances are, but there is a decimal involved
terse sundial
such as the irradiated slime which it needs to be raining for it to spawn, or cultist assassins that require the world to be in hardmode
hollow shell
Piggy's is 0.01
terse sundial
mhm
opaque grail
Is 0.01 1% or 0.01%
hollow shell
1%.
terse sundial
not sure how much lower it can get than that, but it can't go to 1/1million
hollow shell
So I mean like yeah you could have King Piggy's number be 0.000001âŹ
which is 1 / 1,000,000
opaque grail
you could make every piggy have a 1% chance of spawning as king, or make it only spawn if a piggy just spawned
hollow shell
(do you know something I don't
what could prevent that)
hollow shell
(Doctor Bones' spawn chance is 0.002, and Martian Probe's ground-level spawn chance is 0.0025, for reference)
terse sundial
hmm
spring stirrup
Was there a suggestion for making you not have to farm ml for luminate
hollow shell
There have been several suggestions for alternate Luminite sources in the past, yes
More are always welcome considering none have been implemented yet . _.
gusty geode
What happens when you place it on Purple Ice 
spring stirrup
I assume there was one about Austrum aureus/deus
And if by any chance there is none, I will make one
hollow shell
Yep, there's been ones for both.
You can re-suggest it so that they get marked as being highly suggested, if you want
(assuming yours gets to 90 stars)
frank stratus
@elder kestrel
spring stirrup
Oh wow
opaque grail
anyone?
hollow shell
and/or @cyan lagoon
opaque grail
@hollow shell
dusty stirrup
Yeet
hollow shell
Thank you
opaque grail
thx
dusty stirrup
There's way too many of those recently
frank stratus
yeah
dusty stirrup
We'd really need a protection against them
frail mantle
like one of those bots that you have to react to to get access to all the channels?
frank stratus
that could work hmm
opaque grail
or any sort of verification
frank stratus
because these people are bots, they can't verify themselves
opaque grail
just a simple DM bot would work
frank stratus
true
frank stratus
spam bots:
toxic pagoda
(Siren)
I tried it and the siren spawned 5 seconds later
I wasted 4 Zerg potions bc I tried 4 times
At that point I just godmode zergâd and got it eventually
then let the siren kill me
hollow shell
@ancient cairn What would Weak Petrification do to an enemy
ancient cairn
terse sundial
I very much agree with an Amidias Trident nerf
it's just too strong going into hardmode, as it can even defeat Cryogen and the Twins
hollow shell
I agree as well
civic pond
also if i were to do a normal playthrough (no classes in mind) amidias trident just outdoes literally everything
signal prairie
Melee gets all the hate. FeelsBadMan
terse sundial
Amidias Trident whirlpools are just too strong
signal prairie
Melee gets all the weapons that look and sound cool, but aren't that cool to begin with just like Storm Weaver
terse sundial
it's not hate on melee though, its not even hate to begin with
terse sundial
it's a fact that amidias trident is extremely strong and is viable way to far into hardmode then it should be
civic pond
besides nerfing it would moving it entirely be an option?
signal prairie
Maybe nerf it after WoF, like the projectiles do less damage after WoF has been defeated
terse sundial
i would have it so the projectiles only do 50% of the weps base damage
signal prairie
Or hardcap the amount of whirlpools
signal prairie
Because the whirls don't have a limit on how many it can have
signal prairie
You can have up to like 20-25 before they finally start despawning
frail mantle
The problem with balancing it would probably be making sure itâs not too strong, but also not nerfing it to the point where itâs shit
civic pond
yeah i dont want it not to be viable at ALL
civic pond
Honestly
signal prairie
Adding a hardcap to the amount of whirlpools it can have would definitely be a good change
civic pond
prehm revengance felt like nothing
signal prairie
If you don't want it to be viable at all then you haven't played Ranged
ashen warren
PLEASE nerf trident
queen delta
Unpopular opinion: amidias trident is too weak. Buff please
bitter drift
lol
queen delta
It doesnt shred wof as fast as corroslimes do, so therefore its weak
terse sundial
bruh
mystic sandal
if a weapon isn't literally godlike it's complete shit
ashen warren
its strong enough to kill mechs
signal prairie
Cryo ain't that hard tho
terse sundial
it shouldn't be strong enough to shred both twins and prime at all
bitter drift
why is someone named NERF AMIDIAS' TRIDENT
distant gyro
yes 
bitter drift
distant gyro
Merk abusing nick/reaction perms
ashen warren
frank stratus
civic pond
bitter drift
coming from the one that his name was changed from adir to adir savage
frank stratus
it isnt nick perm abusing until one of the mods names you :piss:
terse sundial
@gusty geode wouldn't that cause even more problems with ectoplasm then being pre-hm?
terse sundial
or would you have it so that ectoplasm only starts dropping post-clone/plant
hollow shell
It already only drops it post-Clone/Plant
terse sundial
doesn't it spawn post clone/plant also?
hollow shell
No
bitter drift
cuz it is only post clone plant
hollow shell
Hardmode
distant gyro
no, it spawns at the start of hm?
terse sundial
til
signal prairie
I could go on a long ass rant on how "If Amidias' Trident gets a nerf, then nerf every item in a list of them" but I'm being a good person and I'm not going to do that
bitter drift
can you repost a suggestion if you altered it enough?
bitter drift
k
queen sail
Is it gonna be the unholy snake
bitter drift
yes... (i changed it a bit but not in how it functions)
here are the changes
ny way i'm deleting it to make a new one (the version of it that is an upgrade to this serpent)
Unholy snake (post moon lord mage) rare variant to the crystal serpent.
Description: "god has cursed this snake for making sins"
Made by: a crystal serpent, 10 unholy essences, 5 lumenite bars and 10 souls of night.
What it does: shoot 3 holy flaming balls that pierce and split when they hit an enemy (pierce 3 times split into 2 projectiles)
The projectiles made by the splitting will explode on contact with an enemy burning enemies they hit with holy flames, explosion does high damage with it's low explosion radius.
why:
i thought of making an upgrade to the crystal serpent or a fishing weapon in general and i thought of the spreading biomes.
(those that have almost all the attention if that wasn't for the jungle and dungeon)
and with the hallow having a completely lack of content in calamity at all (the only biome that doesn't have a calamity boss made for it by the way[don't say prov she is a multi biome boss])
so i of giving this weapon an upgrade to the crystal serpent, it will give the hallow the tiniest content add in history and it deserve it.
bitter drift
it was at first now it's not
queen sail
All rare variants are drops
hollow shell
(I'd prefer if they were all obtained from their original sources even if it's crafting
so they're actually rare variants
but
that'd probably be programming hell to try)
queen sail
If you wanna make it a rare variant, make it drop from the profaned guardians or smth
bitter drift
no it is no longer a rare variant
hollow shell
Remove that from the suggestion then
queen sail
Give people a reason to fight them other than âGet the core then farm the fuck out of the hallowâ
hollow shell
there's a sentence saying it is
signal prairie
Or Scorn Eaters from hell
bitter drift
it is already removed
hollow shell
bitter drift
i have yet to post it in #suggestions-voting
hollow shell
Indeed.
queen sail
You say hallow has a lack of content while the evil biomes become completely irrelevant
bitter drift
i already removed the first one from suggestion
queen sail
Hallow at least gets the benefit of getting unholy enemies
bitter drift
the evil biomes at least have a boss\
and no
prove is a multi biome boss
beside slime god slimes
queen sail
Youâre still making it unholy content though
bitter drift
yes
hollow shell
lol
bitter drift
also just for you to know the unholy enemies are also in hell
hollow shell
Wouldn't it make more sense for the Crystal Serpent upgrade to also be Hallow themed instead of Unholy themed
if you wanna give more attention to the Hallow
bitter drift
my fault that the only place the hallow get any change what so even is in post moon lord with the unholy things?
queen sail
Providence is a being of light and is made of flames
bitter drift
and darkness
hollow shell
ehh hmm...
queen sail
Sheâs still mostly regarded as a light deity
civic pond
she quite literally has crystals in her body
bitter drift
what crystal is it? (hallowed)
if so then how she is post moon lord these thing are fragile as hell
civic pond
...
hollow shell
What is this conversation again?
queen sail
What are you even saying
queen sail
Iâm pretty sure profaned crystals and hallowed crystals are different
bitter drift
from where did we go from there to here
queen sail
You wanting to add content to the hallow so you made a crystal serpent upgrade
If you want a crystal serpent upgrade you can always just
Use hallow materials
bitter drift
i speak a Semitic language so ya My EnGliSh SUck AsS
queen sail
And eventually other materials
bitter drift
so you saying to rethink the placement and materials and concept and anything ales i didn't say here but in the suggestion
queen sail
Pretty much
bitter drift
but what there is to add to the crystal serpent?
it's a hallowed weapon
you can get it the second the hallow exists
the hallow doesn't have ANY DAMN changes that aren't the unholy enemies
queen sail
Corruption and Crimson donât really get much aside from HM/Perfs dropping their respective hardmode material
hollow shell
You could just add a generic material to put it later in the game
like the Mech souls, or Living Shards, or Luminite
or Cosmilite even
bitter drift
Made by: a crystal serpent, 10 unholy essences, 5 lumenite bars and 10 souls of night.
queen sail
Reinforce a fish with cosmic metal
hollow shell
alongside a bunch of hallow materials like Souls of Light and Crystal Shards
queen sail
queen sail
Anyways just go add like
A bunch of hallowed materials
An upgrade doesnât have to be post ml
bitter drift
like what mech boss tire AKA THE ONLY OTHER PLACE THE HALLOWED IS EVEN MENTIONED
then grate we have another mana rose upgrade at the same fu***** tier
queen sail
Adir do people even go back to the crimson or corruption once they get better gear
bitter drift
to get Ichor cursed flame and to remove these biomes from existence
queen sail
Begone Evil exists and you also need hallow materials to make holy arrows
Which are for elysian arrows
queen sail
Unholy arrows are preboss corruption arrows what
bitter drift
yes i didn't mean those
i called them that cuz they are the arrows from the unholy enemies
small talon
the reason it spawns on the side of the world it does is to not conflict with Thorium's Aquatic Depths
bitter drift
yes
small talon
the Aquatic depths always spawn on jungles side, so abyss always spawns on dungeon side
queen sail
I assume this was an agreement between the thorium and calamity dev teams
bitter drift
but what the point don't the devs want this mod to be played alone
queen sail
Yeah but they canât stop people who do multimod
hollow shell
@opaque grail Aquatic Depths
bitter drift
this mod doesn't go well with sacred tools how in the heck with thorium
small talon
and plus you can just fish up Golden Lock Boxes (yes no body knows they exist) and open them, they are basically golden dungeon chests in the form of crates
queen sail
Donât ask us
hollow shell
SacredTools has more drastic world changes than Thorium
queen sail
Itâs Shadows of Abaddon now but yeah
They have an infection and an actual biome now
bitter drift
now it is named that
hollow shell
Was the Flame Razed Forest not an actual biome and/or infection?
bitter drift
biome
queen sail
Empressâ Den + Flame Razed Forest
bitter drift
it should be an invading biome cuz it has a planet of it's own IIRC
queen sail
It doesnât spread for the same reason Begone Evil exists
People have better to do than containing an infection
bitter drift
ya ya why it is there anyway idk much about the lore
opaque grail
Well saying you can go fish, I'd rather cheat em in
Fishing is no fun (unless its the dupe rod glitch)
bitter drift
funny enough go fish in the abyss that destroyed the dungeon in the first place
smoky wagon
i feel like there should be a limit on how often people can submit suggestions
individual people putting in 2-3 suggestions each day just floods the channel
queen sail
The fact that people who make worthwhile suggestions often flooded out by meme suggestions or suggestions that donât help the mod at all is pretty sad ngl
unique vector
reminder that people still vote on suggestions 80 messages into the channel
queen delta
Whoever they are: thanks for the attention â¤
queen delta
King slime already does like 100 hp which is quite a lot for first boss
Its just extremely cheeseable
And its unpredictableness only encourages cheese
teal ibex
lost agate
the fight is getting reworked soon tho
terse sundial
^
ivory heart
I feel respected
quick dove
frank stratus
đ
ivory heart
More stars right
tired haven
But at what cost
terse sundial
elfin maple
no
lost agate
It was nerfed already and got buffed back because it ruined the essence of it
frank stratus
lmao
elfin maple
hi
opaque grail
Wait if halibut has a 1/1,000,000 drop chance? why cant king pig have the same spawn chance? someone said thats impossible to do
frank stratus
hm? nani
zenith haven
my friend got two of them yesterday is there an enemy that givces it a 100% chance
frank stratus
yes, that's because that enemy is impossibly hard to kill
lost agate
I didnt say it was impossible
young fog
ye, an adult eidolon
frank stratus
unless you have some OP weapons from other mods
elfin maple
even then
young fog
coldheart icicle meem strats
frank stratus
i thought that was fixed
elfin maple
i wasn't able to do it with last tantrum
opaque grail
It was merkalto that said it
elfin maple
i had to butcher
frank stratus
plus, you can't use jelly with icicle and if you touch the wyrm you die instantly lmao
elfin maple
yeah
icicle is ridiculously short-ranged
getting close enough to the wyrm to hit it would be guaranteed death
hollow shell
@zenith haven It's already hard enough to obtain
frank stratus
the problem is, the wyrm will throw you into itself so like
hollow shell
1/1,000,000 drop rate from normal enemies
and 1/10,000 from the minibosses which are incredibly difficult to kill unless you're Post-ML
frank stratus
or adult wyrm which is even more difficult to kill
and at the point where you CAN kill it, halibut does nothing
young fog
bc ur already either post yharon or post scal
frank stratus
^
queen delta
@elder mist just be the 90th star to your own suggestion tbh
i've already starred 2 of my own when they both were at 89
elder mist
nEin.
Already went that long of a way, someone's bound to click that last one for you.
hearty ermine
staring your own suggestions is only acceptable if it makes the star count even
queen delta
staring your own suggestions is acceptable in all cases
who really cares about 2 free stars when theres still 88 more to be desired
frank stratus
its just weird tbf
elder mist
Makes you seem impatient and thirsty for your suggestion to be considered ASAP, imo.
opaque grail
Well I mean
if you put it in, you want it implemented asap anyways
so that doesnt say much
elfin maple
i don't star my own suggestions
i know there's nothing against it but i just choose not to
frank stratus
same
hollow shell
starring your own suggestion is a coward's tactic
radiant meadow
I mean, it doesn't really matter
no need to shame people or witchhunt people for doing it
hollow shell
yeah I'm just jokin around
radiant meadow
wow, Rover. I thought you were better than that đ
hollow shell
đ ą
in 
radiant meadow
it's in this channel too
frank stratus
...o
rancid laurel
Ohhh that's why it says blue check
iOS's blue check is a gray check and I was confused about that
radiant meadow
frank stratus
rancid laurel
Yeah I have mobile, mainly because I play terraria and look on here at the same time
frank stratus
o
elfin maple
so basically for suggestions that get their star removed?
elfin maple
yes
hollow shell
@carmine stream We'll just remove the reactions from that
or ask the poster to delete it
shut tide
Lol didnât notice that đ
elfin maple
I think it makes it more clear what's going on
hollow shell
the Suggestion Don'ts doc exists and so do the rules
smoky wagon
people dont read it
smoky wagon
they never will
civic pond
đ
hollow shell
And where would the legend for what â means be?
elfin maple
Someone who didn't know how the system works could be confused when they see a suggestion without any reactions
hollow shell
Pins?
Where the rules and doc are?
empty inlet
i just did
smoky wagon
people can probably interpert the red x as âbad suggestionâ
shut tide
The legend is in the pins! (I literally just figured that out)
smoky wagon
its universal
elfin maple
in the Suggestion Reactions Legend
hollow shell
(We can probably unpin Ein's message here because I added it to the Don'ts doc, actually)