update then
#suggestions-discussion
zenith hazel
bitter drift
k 
indigo terrace
i just fought yharon phase 1
should i use yhrims gift?
indigo terrace
ok
tepid scaffold
is the hell crag removed or is it just me experience some bug?
zenith hazel
not really the place to discuss it, #help-advice-read-pins would be better
young fog
It’s not a bug anyway
tepid scaffold
ok
queen sail
Cosmic Worm: “Summons the devourer of the cosmos”
Cosmic Weenie: “Summons the devourer of the cosmos and nothing else, you weenie”
frail mantle
Class Badges sounds like prime Nohitter fuel
ashen warren
Sure thing.
Nohitting bosses with 11 times their health? Hold my beer.
This would be a challenge item, rather optional.
bitter drift
what are these iridescend bricks
radiant meadow
the max is 10 times
and like, even with the punishments, free damage like that sounds op as fuck
especially considering you could stuff like 10 in your inventory for 330% bonus dmg
queen sail
That’s more than old glass soul
frail mantle
maybe instead of them increasing damage taken and spawn rates, the Class Badges do the old Defiled thingy
frail mantle
good point
maybe the class badges could also increase enemy/boss speed so it's not just free damage for Nohitters
shell lynx
why not an accessory that makes literally everything faster?
distant gyro
hyper mode?
ashen warren
Burden Breaker for enemies sounds broken
Remember DoG with BB on before the accessory was nerfed
nyooom
dry stag
I was gonna try to make something like that last one, actually. It's a cool concept
open sphinx
now i want a config file that allows bb to be used while boss is alive
lost agate
Oh yeah forgot to mention
I dont see how sentinels phase on DoG is any endurance
Its literally one minute at most of melting bosses
I dont see the endurance in that, if anything DoG p2 is the endurance fight
So i dont see how exactly making you able to spawn sentinels on DoG again would be any good
lost agate
Wot?
autumn lion
magic weapon
lost agate
Yeah but what do you mean with that?
autumn lion
post scal but still
civic pond
autumn lion
i mean vehemence can't deal damage to DoG except 1st 3-5 seconds
lost agate
Thats ... Not an unkiller
autumn lion
if you're fast enough it's not
lost agate
Uh
autumn lion
or else vehemence can't deal damage
civic pond
unkiller
lost agate
Do you know what an unkiller is?
lost agate
Vehemence does that?
queen sail
Nope
civic pond
UNKILL a boss
queen sail
lost agate
lost agate
Not DoG sadly
calm spade
full bramble
adding graze system to terraria
queen delta
everyone and their mother has already suggested wulfrum slimes be added to royal gel
but i still wonder why it hasnt been done yet
bitter topaz
iirc they're not actually slimes, but robots
bitter topaz
don't ask me how that works, since i don't have an answer to that
but that's the reason that the devs give
queen delta
and what about ebonian/crimulan blighted slimes?
queen delta
those too
last star
please make em work with royal gel 😦 super annoying early on to be safe from all slimes except taht random arse wolfrum that ends up knocking me over the edge and die to falldmg
patent island
@agile pilot
I saw that idea about sniper scope...
So what about giving its upgrade ability to make all bullets home into enemies (therefore dealing 20% less damage but well... home.)
agile pilot
Ok
opaque grail
It'd make all forms of homing bullets obsolete though
and everyone would go whatever bullet has the most dmg to outweigh all homing ones entirely
patent island
is there really any other homing than chlorophyte at that point?
patent island
What if other idea...
Increasing all ranged damage a bit and further increasing damage when using homing bullets.
fervent sky
Added some projectile sprites to my Bar Cannon suggestion, and there should hopefully be a weapon sprite soon too
radiant meadow
nobody coded stuff for them to be unaffected by the royal gel afaik
opaque grail
well wouldnt they have to code something for them TO be affected?
cuz I know they'll either have to be flagged by the gel as on the whitelist, or they have to be flagged as slimes if the gel just hits every slime
frank stratus
i was thinking of adrenaline building slower when you aren't damaging the boss, and more adrenaline when you crit the boss
and of course the damage required for getting normal adrenaline scales with the boss
opaque grail
Yeah thats a very smart idea
An intuitive way to prevent cheesey strats and encourage skill
frank stratus
i'll probably make a suggestion on that right now
frank stratus
i've suggested it here but i've never actually sent a suggestion
terry's suggestion is based on distance from the boss
civic pond
i never use adrenaline anyways 
opaque grail
but with dmging the boss, it doesnt prevent cheese strats
it just means long ranged weapons or homing ones are better because they boost adrenaline gain
frank stratus
hm
opaque grail
which'll further boost the run and dont play strat
frank stratus
i might merge terry's suggestion into mine but im not sure if it counts as stealing a suggestion 
i was also thinking of something similar for rage but still thinking about it
eh, i'll just add it too the suggestion
opaque grail
isnt rage already dmg based?
full bramble
to be honest being able to charge rage before a boss fight seems off
civic pond
damage YOU take
frank stratus
my original idea wasn't about preventing cheese, it was mostly making adrenaline more interesting
frank stratus
yeah its about how much damage you take, but i was thinking of a way to gain rage during a battle without using dark of darkness/draedon's heart in a nohit, because those are quite useless other ways
full bramble
damage taken can still be built up for preparation... by simply preparing
aka trying to prepare for planty but moss hornets want to say no
opaque grail
just use a statue inside of honey camp and heart lantern
and it's free rage rly easy
frank stratus
opaque grail
I should probs do that now that I can tank slimes cuz I havent used rage once, and I used adren but it was so useless
frank stratus
i'll also add a thing about dodging projectiles and gaining adrenaline from that
might be interesting to code though
alright, im gonna paste my suggestion somewhere on a page that fits and read through it for errors and additions
...okay, i tried to send it to my friend but the message is way too long so im gonna have to put it in a documen
carmine stream
Wulfrum Slimes are robots. No.
opaque grail
canon?
They're called slimes, they act like them, wiki refers to them as a "Pre-Hardmode slime"
and the only mention of any reasons why it wouldnt work from wiki is just that it doesnt
opaque grail
Nothing says anything about them being robots, in fact it directly and explicitly states that royal gel SHOULD work by saying they're slimes
kb resist isnt a slime/non-slime thing tho, its entirely based on specific enemies
frank stratus
¯_(ツ)_/¯
well, i'm open to changes and fixes for about an hour: https://docs.google.com/document/d/14tsgfOlpU9fgmOtr6-2DCO8WQzbwJVNgdZ5SSeDD-7M/edit
i usually run out of ideas after that, so yeah
fickle spruce
moth is easy to find
zenith hazel
zerging in jungle
radiant meadow
that's another word for death in early hardmode
frank stratus
zenith hazel
worth it
opaque grail
this has nothing for or against the suggest, but make sure u have lifeform analyzer and the jungle has lots of ground for it to spawn onto
hot zephyr
Can anyone check out my concept for changes to the Gladiator armor, and new gear for the Marble Biome?
ivory heart
Soulbound Fury (Ranged weapon)
Made using 50 Ectoplasm, 25 Phantoplasm, 5 Ruinous Souls, and 20 Luminite Bars.
Fires two homing projectiles (red and blue, respectively) that pierce seven times, exploding on the eighth hit and dealing damage in a small area. Red “souls” have a chance to inflict Weak for 5 seconds, while blue souls have a chance to inflict Slow. Both souls can also rarely summon a white soul that explodes on hit and deals the same amount of damage.
The projectile gets brighter, deals more damage, and has increases its chance of inflicting its respective debuff per hit, becoming its brightest, dealing the most damage, and being most likely to inflict its debuff after its seventh hit.
ivory heart
This chat is dead
frank stratus
lol
well its been 2 hours and i forgot to post the suggestion...
theres an elemental shiv already
@tender tree https://calamitymod.gamepedia.com/Elemental_Shiv
tender tree
oops xd lol
frank stratus
what's really needed is an exo-tier shiv, but they already said that's not gonna happen
ivory heart
@opaque grail Late response but this is for discussing suggestions before and after posting
queen delta
Actually, it's gonna happen, @frank stratus
teal ibex
i.e. hellblasts, bolts, etc
the theme is the music, not the sound effects
and its excellent
full bramble
figured as much as well, would've been awkward calling that a sound effect lol
tropic marsh
Would it be possible to have the internal volume of sfx not related to the boss's attacks lower when the fight starts?
full bramble
but yeah I think that'd be convenient
teal ibex
the raw sounds of attacks are generally missing from the fight, or entirely masked by weapons/metal clanks
tropic marsh
that way it grabs anything regardless of whether it's calamity or not
full bramble
in the bullet hell you can hear the explodeys being fired so you know what to prepare for
full bramble
what I would find critical though is when she does change attacks
teal ibex
i just think that it could be a lot similar to yharon- i can think of an exact sound associated with pretty much everything in that fight
full bramble
like if she starts firing darts, you'd know (she likes being offscreen for me when she does that)
frank stratus
i just realized i dont have any stars because my thing is in a giant document and no one wants to read it lmao
queen delta
yeah no matter how good it is, it just wont get read if its long
full bramble
I mean, the suggestion you were inspired by has quite a bit of stars
queen delta
perhaps add a TL:DR in the discord post
full bramble
but it would be pretty cool to see a grazing system
although I dunno how hard that'd be to implement
frank stratus
it wasnt entirely inspired
full bramble
I know
frank stratus
the original idea was just the critting part, to make adrenaline more interesting
full bramble
its just the damage threshold you said that has me thinking double
frank stratus
but i added in terry's idea and optimized the mechanics because i realized that it goes well with mine
i should probably make changes to that...it's just a paragraph written from my memory
most things need to be rephrased
damnit now im just adding more onto it...lol
livid coral
There's sound effects int he boss fights?
full bramble
I know that a sound plays when an explodey is launched in her bullet hell phases
teal ibex
yharon has tons, dog has lasers, providence has the laser and i think some flamey ones?
but yharon is the best example for sure
full bramble
rooooooar
frank stratus
bruhjkm,. imagine listening to boss sounds
full bramble
I think provi having a sound when the "lot of fire coming out of her and she is in her cocoon" attack happens would be nice
unless I'm 🔇
teal ibex
i think the bolt attacks do but not the colored flamey negative healers
except for when they hit you, then they boom
full bramble
yeah I hear her "spears" fire but never her flames when they're fired
teal ibex
ye they only make a sound upon striking you afaik
teal ibex
very fast deathy bois
hollow shell
I'm pretty sure the Fireblasts and Gigablasts make sounds when they're spawned and when they impact
It'd be hard to add any sounds to the Hellblasts during the bullet hells so that's out
Maybe a bone crunch sound when the wave skulls are summoned?
Both in the bullet hells and by Cataclysm
hollow shell
If Hellblasts don't make noise when they're fired by SCal or Catastrophe then yeah that should be added
teal ibex
if bullet hell attacks had sfx it would need to be subtle or varied
pretty sure those dont, nor the dart shotgun blasts
ivory heart
REPOST INCOMING
ivory heart
Soulbound Fury (Ranged weapon)
Made using 50 Ectoplasm, 25 Phantoplasm, 5 Ruinous Souls, and 20 Luminite Bars.
Fires two homing projectiles (red and blue, respectively) that pierce seven times, exploding on the eighth hit and dealing damage in a small area. Red “souls” have a chance to inflict Weak for 5 seconds, while blue souls have a chance to inflict Slow. Both souls can also rarely summon a white soul that explodes on hit and deals the same amount of damage.
The projectile gets brighter, deals more damage, and has increases its chance of inflicting its respective debuff per hit, becoming its brightest, dealing the most damage, and being most likely to inflict its debuff after its seventh hit.
hollow shell
Oh oh
Maybe a sound effect for whenever a bullet hell begins or changes pattern
Like a deep fwooosh
teal ibex
or even an extended sound that gets louder the closer they are
full bramble
that'd be scary
hollow shell
Could you add a reason Why to that suggestion, Rifter?
teal ibex
so you can auditorily gauge where they are
full bramble
although it'd be a bit awkward once acceptance happens
radiant meadow
Ranged does lack some options for doggo
tight gorge
Terry's suggestions needs one more star
full bramble
scal: ok you win
big orb guys: ROOOOOOAR
hollow shell
I think the Bazooka rockets have a constant emitting sound that gets louder as you get closer
I was questioning whether or not it was possible but I think it is
radiant meadow
you get sulphuric acid cannon and daemon's flame
seadragon is okay but it's been nerfed
teal ibex
yeah i dont think they should be super loud overall
hollow shell
Aight that's a good reason
Add a bit about ranged not having many options for DoG, Rifter, and it's good
full bramble
sound idea is nice, I like it
frank stratus
too tired to read
full bramble
perhaps expand upon it if it's taken into consideration by more
frank stratus
i'll probably throw a star on it while im sleeping or smth because i like long suggestions
fossil rivet
Should I suggest guaranteed music box recording? I don't think there's any other mods that add it. Right now I'm thinking it guarantees it after the whole song plays, so that you still have to try a little bit.
sterile moon
ah yes an early game armor set, with absolutely no details
marsh gust
@half crow please check pins before sending suggestions and make sure you follow the suggestion format which is pinned
I'm deleting those for now
ruby cobalt
@eager palm
void path
@queen delta Did you know that you can have any music box by putting a blank one in your accessories while the music is active ?
void path
Yes, you can look up on the music boxes page of the terraria wiki
wild turtle
jukebox would be nice for consolidating all music into a single interactable object
brazen bramble
i'm thinking about a pre-boss flamethrower idea:
blowtorch
shoots fire like a normal flamethrower but in a much shorter range (like 2-5 tiles)
i need ideas for the materials
reason: we need a pre-boss flamethrower to be able to start a flamethrower playthrough
pliant bone
Iron, some gel and torches
brazen bramble
i'm not sure if gel is a good idea
ashen warren
Most flamethrowers work on a gel basis, so id say gel is a good idea
brazen bramble
but it requires killing slimes
sterile moon
so?
opaque grail
slimes are easy to kill
brazen bramble
but..but.... pure playthrough...
ashen warren
lmfao looking at hecti suggestion
ive never even knew those sounds existed
maybe its because i have music on 100 and sfx and ambient on 25
brazen bramble
all the flamethrowers you suggested aren't similar to mine
brazen bramble
but they are not the same as mine...
bitter drift
what is yours
bitter drift
don't see one
brazen bramble
idea:
blowtorch
shoots fire like a normal flamethrower but in a much shorter range (like 2-5 tiles)
8 iron bars
gel (?)
torches (?)
reason: we need a pre-boss flamethrower to be able to start a flamethrower playthrough
brazen bramble
is it exactly the same as my idea?
bitter drift
no
brazen bramble
then why are you saying i stole your idea?
opaque grail
what was ur suggestion adir?
bitter drift
idea of a pre boss flamethrowers it just an annoyance that i tried 2 time and failed and you will probably pass in your first try
here is my fist one
pollinator (a pre boss flamethrower)
use gel
can't auto fire (can't hold it to continue firing have to click like most PHM weapons)
made by: 20 rich mahogany (jungle wood) 10 jungle spores and 1 vine.
this weapon is relatively slow, short range and does medium damage, but if you pass 150 DPS it will have a 100% chance to give you dryad blessing for 3 seconds.
why should it be in game?: same reason i suggested a bunch of PHM rocket launchers.
expand the subclasses of Ranger.
(and this time gel is available in PHM and there are calamity PHM flamethrowers post slime god)
ashen warren
So its wrong to suggest a different flamethrower to yours because you were "the first one"?
opaque grail
whats the ammo
it doesnt say
yours isnt anything like his, its just a flamethrower
bitter drift
probably gel
and if i was a demon it would be jungle spores
brazen bramble
added gel as ammo, forgot about that one
bitter drift
yes
opaque grail
also if its that easy to make, with the 150 DPS thing
bitter drift
i didn't say damage
opaque grail
A. It's really strong, so you can proc it
B. It sucks and the buff never happens
"but if you pass 150 DPS"
thats a lot
bitter drift
ok so to nurf it or buff it?
opaque grail
for a pre boss weapon
brazen bramble
sounds more like an armor set bonus but still
opaque grail
well if u make it easier to get, thats a buff, but it also means the weapon would deal less dmg
brazen bramble
i won't recommend reposting stuff at all, and a week is too early imo
bitter drift
no a week is the minimum but it has been more i posted it on the 6/6/19
of course if i repost it i will try to fix it more so what do you think?
brazen bramble
you can post your idea here to get feedback then polish it until you think it's good enough to be on suggestions
zenith hazel
question is, will people be able to understand it?
bitter drift
ok i think i just need to fix the buff
brazen bramble
you really don't want to edit your suggestions in #suggestions-voting
bitter drift
ya i know
zenith hazel
and yeah, just because you thought of something for your suggestion like a pre-boss flamethrower doesn't mean you own the concept and every similar suggestion is a carbon copy
bitter drift
just what do you think of the buff
with slow speed short range and medium damage
will it pass 150 DPS a lot
zenith hazel
the idea of a pre-boss flamethrower is not owned by anyone, anyone can make a suggestion about it
and someone's mentioned it before, it's mahogany, not mongoly
bitter drift
ok thanks for the name
zenith hazel
there's nothing wrong with that, just because you were the only one who suggested a pre-boss flamethrower before doesn't mean you can be the only one who has the rights to suggest one
as long as suggestions aren't flat out copies of others, they're original in their own sense
bitter drift
just a giant annoyance 
zenith hazel
the idea can be similar, it's up to people to make the weapon unique
pliant bone
For once, you have an actual reason to improve your suggestion more from competition
bitter drift
i think all is well except the buff
quiet abyss
? It’s annoying to you when people are suggesting smth of similar concepts yet different from you?
That’s not really the best attitude to have for a channel where chances of many people suggesting ideas with similar concepts are not that uncommon
zenith hazel
uniqueness matters and that can be one of the key concepts to make your suggestion stand out from others and gain traction
bitter drift
? It’s annoying to you when people are suggesting smth of similar concepts yet different from you?
no it's annoying that i suggested 2 of these and fail but i will know that the first time that anyone ales suggest a thing close to a pre boss flamethrower it will pass
anyway let's continue
i'm gonna post the question again
a flamethrower with slow speed short range and medium damage
will it pass 150 DPS a lot
pliant bone
It's not just concepts that makes your suggestion more acceptable.
Even just simple grammar and arrangement of words make it more pleasing to look.
tired haven
^
zenith hazel
your suggestions would have a higher chance of getting in if they were comprehensible
bitter drift
can i please get the answer for the question i posted
zenith hazel
how good would 150 dps be pre-boss?
zenith hazel
also, there's the problem of farming ammo
considering the fact that it's pre-boss, you have no access to king slime
bitter drift
so a flamethrower with low range slow speed and medium damage will pass 150 DPS a lot
zenith hazel
granted, normal slimes are abundant but still
bitter drift
the king
pliant bone
It is still a pre-boss weapon
No one in the right mind would farm KS for just gel when their weapon only deals like 200 dps atm.
Well maybe once you get a kill, you can use the flamethrower to kill KS faster
bitter drift
yes
but when you think of it gel is used a lot pre boss but almost non in other places
pliant bone
Torches mostly and that alone costs a lot of gel for mass production
zenith hazel
if it could reach like 300 dps pre-boss, rip no-hits
bitter drift
ok so to nurf it
brazen bramble
Suggestion: Blowtorch
What it does:
a pre-boss flamethrower that uses gel as ammo.
shoots like a normal flamethrower but in a much shorter range .(about 2-5 tiles)
How it's made/obtained:
- 8 iron/lead bars
- 25 gel
- 3 torches
Why it should be added:
we need a pre-boss flamethrower to be able to start a flamethrower only playthrough.
what do you think?
pliant bone
Maybe even add some details like how many flames does it shoot per gel?
bitter drift
why does it uses gel to make
zenith hazel
because it's a flamethrower?
brazen bramble
^
bitter drift
to make not to use
quiet abyss
All the flamethrowers currently use gels
zenith hazel
is sulphur flammable, that's the question
brazen bramble
i'm not sure, maybe i should replace it with silver/tungsten as materials?
zenith hazel
pretty accessible
brazen bramble
Suggestion: Blowtorch
What it does:
a pre-boss flamethrower that uses gel as ammo.
shoots like a normal flamethrower but in a much shorter range .(about 2-5 tiles)
How it's made/obtained:
- 8 iron/lead bars
- 4 silver/tungsten bars
- 3 torches
Why it should be added:
we need a pre-boss flamethrower to be able to start a flamethrower only playthrough.
how's that?
bitter drift
ok i agree with the recipe👌🏻
quiet abyss
Looks fine to me
pliant bone
The devs if that ever gets a pass twice will figure out the stats for it.
So dont worry about dps
zenith hazel
seems promising
brazen bramble
yeah that's what i saw in the pins, and i'm assuming it's also for the flames per gel?
pliant bone
Although it should be preferable to be ammo efficient due to the low stocks of gel before KS
brazen bramble
i mean you can duplicate it with normal slimes, slowly
zenith hazel
question is, how viable would it be up until hive mind?
pliant bone
^
bitter drift
probably pass to EoC
zenith hazel
not many pre-boss weapons can still be viable well into pre-hm like that
brazen bramble
idk, but armor and accessories might boost it pretty well
zenith hazel
but said weapons are sometimes hard to get (minishark, amazon, water bolt, etc.)
bitter drift
maybe i will also fix my suggestion and make it post EoC?
opaque grail
how is mini tough to get?
zenith hazel
you need a lot of gold?
opaque grail
35?
zenith hazel
yeah?
opaque grail
I wasnt even at BoC and I had 5 platinum
zenith hazel
this is pre-boss
opaque grail
well how are you buying minishark pre boss u sequence breaker
bitter drift
bomb
zenith hazel
idk, farming?
brazen bramble
^ (bomb)
opaque grail
you'd have to break an orb before them to get a gun
zenith hazel
that's why it's hard to get
bitter drift
BOMBS
brazen bramble
yeah then the arms dealer arrives and you buy it from him
opaque grail
Yes I know adir I know its possible im saying when discussing how an item should work/be balanced, you balance them for how the game is intended
bitter drift
ok
brazen bramble
so should i make the materials more expensive? or should it be for a completely different pre-hive mind flamethrower?
bitter drift
no
zenith hazel
but yeah, it has to be really good for it to hold up
bitter drift
maybe post another flamethrower
zenith hazel
either make it as hard to get as amazon or make an entirely new one post-EoC or sth
opaque grail
I like it tbh
bitter drift
this is why my flamethrower was a jungle flamethrower
brazen bramble
i thought about adding a gem to the recipe
opaque grail
adir dont just tell him to balance to be more like ur suggestion
bitter drift
ok so what if i'll fix my flamethrower suggestion? and make it post EoC
zenith hazel
imagine it like crystalline
brazen bramble
sounds good adir
zenith hazel
and please look words up to make sure you're spelling them correctly
swift wharf
maybe add victory shards or smth ?
bitter drift
ok
swift wharf
oh ye but DS/cnidrion drops that too
zenith hazel
yeah, that's what makes it kinda harder to get
bitter drift
but at the same time you use those for other things
opaque grail
arent they the ONLY ones that drop it
zenith hazel
the RNG of cnidrion spawns
brazen bramble
i think adding a buff to a weapon, especially pre-hardmode it a bad idea, i think you should remove that dryad's blessing buff
opaque grail
well if u dont wanna farm cnid just kill DS
bitter drift
yes but in my world both are a pain to farm (my desert is post the jungle )
brazen bramble
meant pre-hardmode, sorry lol
bitter drift
pollinator (a pre boss flamethrower)
use gel
can't auto fire (can't hold it to continue firing have to click like most PHM weapons)
made by: 20 rich mahogany (jungle wood) 10 jungle spores, 4 victory shards and 1 vine.
why should it be in game?: same reason i suggested a bunch of PHM rocket launchers.
expand the subclasses of Ranger.
(and this time gel is available in PHM and there are calamity PHM flamethrowers post slime god)
so i deleted the buff but it sounds not unique
bitter drift
4 victory shards
swift wharf
sounds pretty nice
bitter drift
DELET HIM
brazen bramble
so i'm sending this through?
Suggestion: Blowtorch
What it does:
a pre-boss flamethrower that uses gel as ammo.
shoots like a normal flamethrower but in a much shorter range .(about 2-5 tiles)
How it's made/obtained:
- 8 iron/lead bars
- 4 silver/tungsten bars
- 3 torches
Why it should be added:
we need a pre-boss flamethrower to be able to start a flamethrower only playthrough.
brazen bramble
@quiet abyss troll in #suggestions-voting
bitter drift
a dicky one 😄 lol sorry i will see my self out
brazen bramble
thanks
zenith hazel
a wooden flamethrower 
bitter drift
zenith hazel
totally not self-destructive at all
swift wharf
mudstone bricks
bitter drift
zenith hazel
yeah but that sounds really counterproductive
opaque grail
shhh
zenith hazel
it will probably burn itself before it kills anything
opaque grail
wait why would the mud burn
zenith hazel
I'm talking about the mahogany flamethrower lol
opaque grail
oh lmao yeah
bitter drift
my picture in the brain was it shoot a lot of burning spores
zenith hazel
but ye, mudstone bricks are probably better
bitter drift
k
zenith hazel
but how good would it be up until hive mind?
bitter drift
pollinator (a pre boss flamethrower)
use gel
can't auto fire (can't hold it to continue firing have to click like most PHM weapons)
made by: 30 mudstone, 10 jungle spores, 4 victory shards and 1 vine.
why should it be in game?: same reason i suggested a bunch of PHM rocket launchers.
expand the subclasses of Ranger.
(and this time gel is available in PHM and there are calamity PHM flamethrowers post slime god)
so i deleted the buff but it sounds not unique
swift wharf
uhh
zenith hazel
mudstone (jungle wood)
brazen bramble
oh is it pre-boss as well?
zenith hazel
is it possible to kill hive mind with it tho?
zenith hazel
but its dps...
bitter drift
is gone shit
zenith hazel
wdym?
bitter drift
when i removed the buff i removed the bad DPS saying
it was part of the buff idea after all...
but it still doesn't feel unique 😦
proven tide
when you star yourself
bitter drift
lol
brazen bramble
refer to mudkip's pin
swift wharf
the true pre boss flamethrower is the flare gun
bitter drift
what item is post EoC XD pre boss and post EoC are the same thing
opaque grail
....what
bitter drift
you can even get demonite pre boss
zenith hazel
yeah but it's rare as balls
brazen bramble
flare gun uses flares though
opaque grail
youd have to fight EoW though
bitter drift
no
zenith hazel
shadow scales probably
bitter drift
that post EoW
zenith hazel
so kill it with the blowtorch
opaque grail
so what does "Post EoC = Pre-Boss" mean
bitter drift
they are basically the same thing you just killed a boss
it's like how killing the chicken nuggets does nothing to progress the game (or is it still the only way to get prov's summon?)
zenith hazel
yeah the only way
brazen bramble
maybe post-boss is a better term? then you can add the dryad's stuff, but slime king doesn't count for her so idk
bitter drift
ha so nvm
zenith hazel
but after EoC you get a dash
opaque grail
except by killing a boss u unlocked items npcs and shit like that
bitter drift
yes but no change to the world is happening
opaque grail
so the world must change for it to count?
zenith hazel
post-EoC is essentially access to the sunken sea because DS is before EoC
if so, rip your definition of hardmode's progression
opaque grail
so in vanilla, killing ML means nothing cuz it doesnt change the world
brazen bramble
so maybe post-DS
zenith hazel
sunken sea flamethrower is even more contradictory
brazen bramble
just pointing out unlocks
bitter drift
but flamethrower are so good against worms it doesn't matter
also if so you use your flamethrower to kill 2 bosses
bitter drift
and queen bee
bitter drift
that is another case
zenith hazel
how exactly?
brazen bramble
i mean, flamethrower playthrough can be challenging, maybe we don't need a post-boss pre-hive-mind flamethrower?
bitter drift
SCal and post yharon phase 2 weapons are a different case
i mean, flamethrower playthrough can be challenging, maybe we don't need a post-boss pre-hive-mind flamethrower?
XDXDXD nope you are wrong
zenith hazel
have fun killing DoG with elemental eruption, or yharon with just cleansing blaze
radiant meadow
That's because Onyxia isn't a scal tier item?
zenith hazel
more likely to happen than obliterator killing yharon lol
radiant meadow
Also p1 yharon isn't too hard with cleansing blaze
zenith hazel
yeah, you've got a point, but there's also p2 to worry about
radiant meadow
And ele eruption is like 3 tiers under for DoG
I recommend not using a flamethrower or extreme facetank memes
brazen bramble
we need a lot of few flamethrowers
bitter drift
Bravioli what about grass/flower walls? (for the flamethrower)
little jolt
zenith hazel
last time I checked, fire was super effective against grass
bitter drift
what if i go with my original concept and make it burn grass and not gel (it already got jungle spores)
(original concept was burning jungle spores but still grass is grass)
zenith hazel
well it depends if spores are flammable
bitter drift
pollinator (a post EoC flamethrower)
use grass seeds
can't auto fire (can't hold it to continue firing have to click like most PHM weapons)
made by: 30 mudstone bricks, 10 jungle spores, 4 victory shards and 5 grass walls.
why should it be in game?: same reason i suggested a bunch of PHM rocket launchers.
expand the subclasses of Ranger.
(and this time gel is available in PHM and there are calamity PHM flamethrowers post slime god)
so i deleted the buff but it sounds not unique
i reposted the suggestion with the changes what do you think Bravioli?
zenith hazel
so you're using walls... to make a weapon
smoky wagon
Dont you need to kill a boss to get grass seeds lol
bitter drift
beside doesn't flamethrowers work by making pressure that make heat? or i'm talking nonsense
smoky wagon
the dryad sells them
smoky wagon
Desert scourge also works
bitter drift
no i want EoC
smoky wagon
dont say its pre boss though
bitter drift
sorry it was meant to be one but i'm changing it
fickle spruce
mods
smoky wagon
Just dont click the link
bitter drift
he is the same troll isn't he
sterile moon
of course but why?
bitter drift
wot is it
sterile moon
a new weapon like calamity needs more
bitter drift
we need more (info)
sterile moon
im working on it
the weapon will be a fast firing kuni weapon similer to the mycoroot, and the cosmic kuni
smoky wagon
Weapon suggestions work best when its for a stage of the game that needs more options
Like another post-ml rogue weapon is needed
sterile moon
i think it should also be crafted from those
bitter drift
ya or as i suggesting now a post EoC flamethrower
should i post the suggestion i posted here as it is?
ashen warren
@queen delta would there be a way to turn off the jukebox? Sometimes you want normal terraria music too :p
bitter drift
like a normal music box
ashen warren
That switches track
bitter drift
brake it
ashen warren
No
bitter drift
yas
lilac cypress
"take his jukebox, fuck this kid"
sterile moon
Suggestion: Help with name
What it does:
It is a rouge weapon with the same attack style as the mycroot, and the cosmic kuni
It has medium to long range, and can be fired insanely quickly
How it's made/obtained:
- 1 mycoroot
- 1 cosmic kuni
- 5 yharon soul fragments
at dredons forge
Why it should be added:
I think these types of rouge weapons are lacking, as there are only 2, and bringing one from pre hardmode and one from late game to make a super kuni would not only be a journey but a sense of accomplishment.
lilac cypress
first of all: you pinged someone
bitter drift
don't at someone while suggesting
sterile moon
sorry
brazen bramble
i can understand why that happened lol
bitter drift
any way placement is a no
zenith hazel
so... an auric tier kunai?
lilac cypress
sexond of all: name it yourself, steal something from greek mythos if you cant think of something
bitter drift
with signus being post moon lord and not post prov
sterile moon
because of the cosmic kuni
bitter drift
yes signus drop it
sterile moon
exactly
bitter drift
and he is no longer post prov
sterile moon
oh?
bitter drift
just post moon lord
zenith hazel
that'd be pretty hard to use against scal considering it's close ranged
sterile moon
a fun challange!]
zenith hazel
have fun hitting scal's bros
bitter drift
i think of nurfing it a bit and placing it post moon lord
sterile moon
and the damage would be huge
sterile moon
use a different weapon
bitter drift
bitter drift
with her being on the other side of the wall 50% of the time
sterile moon
it would do tons of dmg though
zenith hazel
will it reach her?
sterile moon
if they take the medium range side
im thinking maybe double the range of the cosmic kuni?
bitter drift
that is no where
sterile moon
?
bitter drift
as i said i think you should put it in post moon lord
this weapons also reach good enough for only the mini bosses
sterile moon
maybe a mycoroot upgrade for post ml?
and later on with the cosmic kuni the post yharon one?
zenith hazel
isn't that just cosmic kunai?
sterile moon
are you sure signus is post ml?
quick dove
he is
sterile moon
like you could fight him directly after?
bitter drift
yes
quick dove
yes
bitter drift
they changed it
worthy fiber
what
sterile moon
this is new
quick dove
old
lilac cypress
fuck ammo
bitter drift
like you have so much ammo
quick dove
bruh
ammo is so cheap to make
even post ml ones
its really easy to make even the profaned ones, i dont see how this is a problem to you
lilac cypress
fair point
bitter drift
yes he say it but it doesn't matter
zenith hazel
but you can craft rune of kos
bitter drift
i can fight the hive mind and win pre boss that doesn't mean anything
the reason it's there is the fact that you HAD to kill singus post prov
sterile moon
so is he hard with post ml gear?
bitter drift
pollinator (a post EoC flamethrower)
use grass seeds
can't auto fire (can't hold it to continue firing have to click like most PHM weapons)
made by: 30 mudstone bricks, 10 jungle spores, 4 victory shards and 5 grass seeds.
why should it be in game?: same reason i suggested a bunch of PHM rocket launchers.
expand the subclasses of Ranger.
then again i realized with some help that having a flamethrower from no boss to HV is stupid and will make it to be either broken or trash
what do you think now?
and yes he is somewhat hard with post moon lord gear
sterile moon
its a good suggestion
bitter drift
it's still feel trash to me maybe it's because it's not unique
sterile moon
30 mudstone bricks seems like a bit much
bitter drift
mudstone? how care
sterile moon
mk
bitter drift
also is it Grammarly correct?
sterile moon
pretty much
brazen bramble
there are some errors
sterile moon
just i's instead of I's and little to no ,'s
ashen warren
Grass seeds would be more annoying to get then gel tbh
bitter drift
buying is a thing
this is also why it's a post EoC weapon
ashen warren
Id still say gel is better, but however people like it
bitter drift
what seeds do you think it is EH
it's the normal grass purity seeds
those that can only be gotten by being bough in the dryad shop
brazen bramble
second row: use -> uses
brazen bramble
i'm not really good at grammar so i can't really be sure, i recommend using a capital letter at the beginning of the item's name
ivory heart
Soulbound Fury (Ranged weapon)
Made using 50 Ectoplasm, 25 Phantoplasm, 5 Ruinous Souls, and 20 Luminite Bars.
Fires two homing projectiles (red and blue, respectively) that pierce seven times, exploding on the eighth hit and dealing damage in a small area. Red “souls” have a chance to inflict Weak for 5 seconds, while blue souls have a chance to inflict Slow. Both souls can also rarely summon a white soul that explodes on hit and deals the same amount of damage.
The projectile gets brighter, deals more damage, and has increases its chance of inflicting its respective debuff per hit, becoming its brightest, dealing the most damage, and being most likely to inflict its debuff after its seventh hit.
gusty geode
Just spotted that suggestion for an alternative method of getting gypsy powder
Instead of reposting my rant about lazy players, I'm gonna ask if anything that's not specifically a rare item is allowed to be rare
smoky wagon
gypsy powder isnt rare
its just farting around in the worst biome in the game until some moth spawns
sick bane
Oh
shell lynx
I have a suggestion idea, but I'm not exactly sure if it's feasible. I was thinking of a tesla coil summon that you can summon multiple of, and the coils would connect to each other to create a chain of electricity. I don't really know many of the details but feel free to add to the idea.
frail mantle
i think that's been suggested before
zealous ridge
there has been a very similar suggestion to that one made already
elfin maple
you aren't supposed to suggest bosses
novel pebble
elfin maple
much less superbosses
Name undecided (Something to do with water/bones?) Post-Skeletron Flamethrower
Uses gel as ammo like most other flamethrowers
Fires blue flames that inflict a new debuff that slightly increases enemy spawn rate for every enemy iniflicted at any point in time.
Crafted from: 25 bones, 3 water candles, 10 dungeon spikes
Since there seem to be a few other flamethrower suggestions around here, I've realized that that is also something I'd like to see in the game. More options in some of the smaller ranger subclasses would definitely be something I'd want to see in Calamity as well as in other mods.
Any ideas for names or anything I should change?
brazen bramble
i suggest the name Bone Melter, sounds like a cool name to me
elfin maple
yeah
brazen bramble
blue flames sounds nice, reminds me of azula from the last airbender, not sure about the debuff though
elfin maple
i think it could be useful when grinding if you don't have any battle or zerg potions
but you would have water candles if you made this item
brazen bramble
not sure if possible, but how about it increases enemy spawns when holding it?
elfin maple
yeah
brazen bramble
probably much easier to code
elfin maple
it would
how about the debuff still boosts spawn rates but it caps at +3x spawn rate
brazen bramble
idk
grizzled abyss
Hmm
I wonder how my suggestion was received
Probably not gonna be implemented
I hope so though
tired haven
What is it btw? I may clear up a future of it a bit
brazen bramble
oh crab, do you know about suggestions that have passed?
grizzled abyss
Well, as a beta tester, probably ones that have been partially added or something
Thats my guess anyways
tired haven
Well, kind of, only secondary things like if it is already in
grizzled abyss
Fair enough
tired haven
Plus I'm not really allowed to reveal that
brazen bramble
ah ok
tired haven
Nothing special on your suggestion btw
Just gotta hope it would be reconsidered
grizzled abyss
Its the second time it passed
But due to the more fleshed out version of the idea it was considered too different to be the same suggestion
:/
Oh well
eager palm
@ashen warren put the suggestion in one message and explain it more, dont just throw in some sprite and say "here's a weapon"
look at other suggestions and try to format it as such
terse sundial
@ashen warren You can use shift + enter to create a new line in your text, or press the return key on your mobile keyboard to create a new line
ashen warren
proximity adrenaline is at 133 stars 
tight gorge
Check again
full bramble
graze system
ashen warren
wait I didn't even think of graze
radiant meadow
now send it to dev server yourself
ashen warren
I mean uh yeah very deliberate epic 2hu gamer reference
full bramble
😎
void kelp
I love the idea of adrenaline building based on proximity
bc like. your heart obviously is gonna go faster when you’re facing a giant cosmic worm; when you can’t see it? probably not as fast.
fervent sky
Added a sprite for the Bar Cannon itself, along with sprites and effects for Thorium bars, just for fun
civic pond
there's already a rare varient for book of skulls
foggy kindle
Book of Skull has Clothier's Wrath as the rare variant
ivory heart
As for Soulbound Fury?
tired haven
Red Devils are post-1Mech enemies btw so this drop is kinda irrelevant
You could try to find similar weapons to not completely discard the concept however
ashen warren
Will try.
bitter drift
umbrella if it is from hard mode and dropped by demons and it's called devils skull
why not drop it by actual devils
radiant meadow
keep in mind that if it's a rare variant of an enemy drop, it'll typically be from the same source
like clothier's wrath drops from skeletron for example
just like book of skulls does
bitter drift
but the book of skulls is dropped by skelly
this is by demons
ivory heart
My suggestion
bitter drift
any way what is a rare variant anyway
ivory heart
A rare drop, a stronger variant of a weapon
bitter drift
ok
lofty blade
@ashen warren Book of Skulls already has a rare variant, that being the Clothier's Wrath
queen delta
^
slate crown
yea
tired haven
It was already mentioned tho lel
bitter drift
don't react yet
full bramble
I could've sworn we had an RIV of the book of skulls
queen delta
we do
full bramble
bitter drift
do we have a rare variant to any hallow weapon?
if yes do we have one for the evil biomes?
full bramble
idk about hallowed but I'm damn sure there's an evil RIV
spear of destiny, from ichor stickers
carnage, from blood zombies (RIV of bloody edge)
bitter drift
to what rare variant are them
full bramble
spear of destiny is RIV of ichor spear
bitter drift
carnage isn't an evil RIV (it's a blood moon one)
full bramble
well its basis is from the evil
bitter drift
no when i say evil i mean corruption/crimson (not blood moon hell or anything other)
full bramble
if you mean where it drops, that's understandable
spear of destiny would count then
but I don't think there's one for hallow (?)
if it wasn't limited to weapons, then the samurai badge is arguably from the hallow (drops from providence)
bitter drift
i thinking of making a hallow RIV of the crystal serpent
Unholy snake (post moon lord mage) rare variant to the crystal serpent.
Gotten by fishing in the hallow desert in post moon lord.
What it does: shoot 3 holy flaming balls that pierce and split when they hit an enemy (pierce 3 times split into 2 projectiles)
The projectiles made by the splitting will explode on contact with an enemy burning enemies they hit with holy flames, explosion does high damage with it's low explosion radius.
why: i have yet to see a rare variant weapon in my 5-6 playthroughs of this mod that means
- they are extremely rare
- my luck sucks
so when at the time i heard of them i thought of making an upgrade to the crystal serpent or a fishing weapon in general
here is my start
what do you think?
full bramble
fishing for an RIV would certainly be a unique twist to it, but I'm not really sure if it would fit well
RIVs were added in the newest update like 20 days ago by the way
bitter drift
well it is the RIV to the crystal serpent after all
full bramble
5-6 playthroughs by then 
bitter drift
ya 3 ranger 1 mage 1 rogue and this one the 6th is melee
full bramble
it's an interesting thought but I dunno
bitter drift
who know i'll send it after i'm done with the last part
and yes i'm gonna make one for the corruption also
small talon
is not the wooden boomerang good enough?
civic pond
and you can find an enchanted boomerang iirc
small talon
that too
frail mantle
also Seashell Boomerang exists
small talon
was gunna say that one
swift wharf
also ice Boomerang
ashen warren
ok let me explain this one
I mean for like RIGHT at the beginning
No way you can get an ice boomerang right off the bat
lost agate
You can
small talon
can u not craft the wooden boomerang
lost agate
And wulfrum will stay as one weapon per class
ashen warren
alright
small talon
or am i thinking of another mod
ashen warren
im gonna stop doing suggestions xD
civic pond
real xd hours
radiant meadow
@outer holly that's not happening
the point of stuff homing in on aureus spawns is to punish the player from using homing
that's basically the main gimmick of the minion
removing that would eliminate a core function of the fight
lilac fjord
nobody:
every single living being in the entire universe:
wulfurm slime be hittin me even though royal gel :( i will sue you
civic pond
smoky wagon
whats the point of aureus punishing homing when you dont really benefit from using homing against it anyway
it isnt hard to hit
radiant meadow
tbf, it's not hard to kite the aureus spawns either
smoky wagon
i dont think the aureus spawns are the issue
its the ludicrous dmg scaling aureus gets
it doesnt make sense for post-ml tier
lost agate
You get better mobility so its easier to dodge him
queen delta
Aureus dies faster post ML than pre ML iirc
ashen warren
love it @lilac cypress
my suggestions are getting quickly buried
unique vector
you already have two sent to the devs smh
queen delta
yes but i need more tbh
radiant meadow
@unique vector that was added because letting them live caused bugs as phase 2 wouldn't spawn if they were left alive
lilac cypress
i just want world evils to be a tangible threat
unique vector
o
lilac cypress
cause right now
unique vector
let me reword my suggestion then
radiant meadow
perhaps only make them disappear when signus spawns
unique vector
i suggested them to be forced to be killed during SW
ivory heart
I have a feeling many suggestions are lost to new suggestions, which are lost into more new suggestions, which keeps going.
smoky wagon
I dont think people want world evil to spread faster
smoky wagon
You wont once your entire jungle is gone
lilac cypress
make it a fucking threat plEASE
unique vector
also keep in mind that there have been suggestions 80-100 messages deep into the channel that one day have some stars, and the next day have 90+ stars and are therefore sent to the devs
so no buried suggestions aren't entirely a bad thing
smoky wagon
I think i had a sugg with 86 stars
ashen warren
I HATE OCTAGONS
tired haven
People actually read more than the lowest part of suggestion channel
unique vector
ye
tired haven
Trust me
ivory heart
At least give compensation by tripling drop rates in evil biomes
fickle spruce
@unique vector why storm weaver? ceaseless void goes first
unique vector
it kinda makes sense lore-wise since storm weaver is part of the same species as DoG
smoky wagon
Star my sugg it has 85 lol
queen sail
The reason why people don’t want to have the evil biomes spread is because by the end of the day the evil biomes eventually become irrelevant
unique vector
so therefore in a way they should also support SW
queen delta
Telling others to star your suggestions? Bold move.
queen sail
It’s just another thorn in your side when there could be better to do
smoky wagon
Some person put something in the suggestions channel asking for stars
atleast i keep it in here
ivory heart
Star me I have 11 stars and my suggestion was buried in others’ posts
Soulbound Fury
smoky wagon
Guys if my sugg doesnt get 90 stars by 12:00 my family will starve
queen delta
Star mine cuz my ideas are more superior than all yours
ivory heart
I have many ideas that could be a reality in Calamity Mod. Please star mine and see a new addition.
hollow shell
@ashen warren You'd better have a good elaboration
ashen warren
an enemy octagon
queen sail
Why do we need this
queen delta
hollow shell
Pixl is still here you know
ashen warren
cuz octagons are bad
ivory heart
Cryoctagon
ashen warren
they look bloody and fleshy
queen sail
Okay but why
queen sail
How does this help the mod in any way
ivory heart
OCTAGONAL PERFORATORS
ashen warren
It makes it funner
ashen warren
because I hate octagons
elfin maple
well you need to put all the details in the suggestion'
ashen warren
will do
ivory heart
I think there is some potential though
elfin maple
you can't just say 2 words
lilac cypress
what if you
wanted to star octagon enemy
but god said
cheese borger
ashen warren
@ivory heart wdym?
lilac cypress
the n word
elfin maple
Well_if_you_put_underscores_it's_technically_one_word
ivory heart
Bloody Star
An 8 pointed star enemy that flies through blocks and rams the player.
Only spawning in blood moons.
lilac cypress
now im not gonna star it
ivory heart
Does it fly?
sick bane
OctagonHater, I think you just want to end octagons...
ashen warren
yes
elfin maple
@ashen warren I will add a way to kill octagons in my mod
ivory heart
@ashen warren Time to rip off your suggestion
ivory heart
Time to turn it into the Blood Star
ashen warren
It would actually be very interesting
good name rifter!
It might make it into the Memes Unleashed Mod.
as long as its an octagon ill be cool with it @ivory heart
sick bane
It'll be a stellated octagon, I assume
fickle spruce
@ashen warren why do you hate octagons
ashen warren
nah changed it up a bit
hollow shell
It was originally just "octagon enemy" but I guess it's expanded now
unique vector
ah oke
ashen warren
made it way better
unique vector
sorry, i was busy eating dinner
elfin maple
Maybe it drops Mini Octagons that you can enslave craft into weapons
ashen warren
I will cry in happiness if it makes it in
ashen warren
|| I think i might be detecting brainletery guys||
unique vector
yeah lets not be stupid, thanks
sick bane
gee, sorry
unique vector
make realistic suggestions that are mature and make sense
ivory heart
Corrupt Blood Star or Crimtane Blood Star
An enemy that resembles a rotating purple (corruption) or red (crimson) 8-pointed star, depending on the world evil. In the middle is a static octagonal flesh chunk with an eye in the center of that, to prevent the eye rotating with the entity.
The Blood Star uses the Demon Eye AI.
When defeated, the Blood Star will drop Rotten Chunks/Vertebrae depending on the world evil. Blood Stars have a 100% chance of dropping Blood Orbs and Fallen Stars.
ashen warren
made it better
unique vector
no “slavery” nonsense
elfin maple
I do think a set of octagon weapons would be interesting
sick bane
It would definitely be unique
elfin maple
i was joking about the slavery
unique vector
ik, but jokes should be mostly kept in #general-talk
ivory heart
@ashen warren Should I post this?
ashen warren
octagon yo-yo would be cool, literally an octagon
sick bane
The Octo-yo
elfin maple
yocto-yo
sick bane
Octyo-yo. Perfection.
elfin maple
Maybe it can also drop octagon bullets
ashen warren
ok this went from me making a meme, to an actual good suggestion
elfin maple
yes it did
sick bane
I think the bullets are a bit much
ashen warren
yeah
sick bane
neato
elfin maple
think you have 8 lines extending in the cardinal and diagonal directions out from the player
sick bane
oh no
ashen warren
add the octyo-yo to it @ivory heart and we'll be good
elfin maple
the projectiles would align to the closest of those lines and then go for the player
elfin maple
like taxicab but 8 directions instead of 4
sick bane
what's taxicab
sick bane
hey, octagonhater's suggestion was deleted
elfin maple
imagine like the shulker projectile from minecraft
sick bane
oh
ivory heart
Done
sick bane
So it homes?
sick bane
and causes levitation
ashen warren
I did
sick bane
oh
elfin maple
just the homing part