suggestions-discussion

[elder mist]

Smh hypersiren was removed because it was shit trash and bad (and also nobody used it in favor of hyperethanjudge which is the 100% superior emote)

[zenith hazel]

people who can't use hypersiren to express anger:

[ashen warren]

hypersiren?

[ripe wing]

I have seen that suggestion about the underworld abyss

Seems like a good idea

Post-SCal and gives us stuff to do

[elder mist]

I spy, with my little eye

A meme sugma

[strong yew]

bruh

It's funny how I only look at #suggestions-voting in this server.

[elder mist]

I mean

Meowmere by itself is already a meme

Hailing from vanilla

[frail mantle]

if it's not a meme suggestion, at least elaborate a bit more

[zenith hazel]

instead of knives, they're kitty heads

so revolutionary

[fickle spruce]

bad suggestion

guns aren't supposed to be acquired so early on

[queen sail]

“Sandstorm is bad because nobody uses it”

[fickle spruce]

u have bows instead

[queen sail]

Sandstorm is “bad” because GSS is forgettable

How many times have you seen people discussing that boss

It’s “bad” because nobody really fights it

It’s boss that’s locked behind plantera and, what

Has like 4-5 weapons?

One of those weapons is even locked behind fishron

Nobody uses Sandstorm because nobody really wants to fight GSS

[zenith hazel]

duststorm in a bottle is pretty good

[queen sail]

I saw that sandstorm’s bullets have a decently sized aoe on impact but still

GSS tends to be pretty forgettable because sandstorms become less relevant later on

Unless you’re missing the rare sand elemental bottle or need some more forbidden fragments

And even then you’d just focus on the sand elementals, not GSS

[tepid root]

nobody talks about gss because the weapons are simply bad

[elder mist]

Except duststorm in a bottle

That one's aight

[tepid root]

that's a decent one, but I'd use poison bomb over it

[elder mist]

Poison bomb?

[tepid root]

Ballistic poison bomb, or whatever it was called

the abyss weapon

[elder mist]

Ahhh

That's fair tbh

[smoky wagon]

Great sand shark is so easy though why skip it

Just make the summon item

[elder mist]

People skip it because they forget it exists

[frail mantle]

^

and people forget it exists cause its weapons (except for duststorm) are so bad

[zenith hazel]

tumbleweed serves some sort of purpose (dragon pow)

[winged ice]

Sandnado staff is pretty nice

[elder mist]

@hearty ermine I can tell you from experience and testing that the weapons are indeed balanced towards regular average gear players. For example:

• Prismalline is very easy to get proper spacing vs 5 of the 6 souls bosses, with the only exception being skeletron prime. This is especially notable vs cryogen to get rogue daedalus armor.
• Spear of Paleolith notoriously is bad vs 4 of the souls bosses, being super incredibly good vs both AS and destroyer. TLDR it's a worm slayer.
• Icebreaker is a weapon where you have to manually guide the bosses to be inside it's lingering projectiles for it to have massive damage. Higher player skill = higher damage this weapon's gonna do, basically.
  As for armor sets, aerospec is pretty fine as is, though I do agree with the no hm preboss gear as you'll have at best statigel armor vs cryogen. Though it's not the most optimal, rogue weapons vs cryogen have been balanced with statigel being used, with the rest of the souls bosses being balanced with daedalus being used. So long as you have a proper arena, you should be able to kill cryogen fairly handily with the prismaline.
  As for ichor spear and spear of destiny, I have not used those myself and the fact their ichor debuff only lasts for 2 seconds doesn't tell that it's supposed to be a support weapon, so I can't attest on them.

[smoky wagon]

buff the cursed dagger

lol

[hearty ermine]

i havent used the cursed dagger

[void kelp]

Imo I’d just wait for the rogue expansion update and then think about balance

[smoky wagon]

use ice stars

those works fine for most stuff until you get pickaxe axe

[hearty ermine]

@elder mist thank you for your help, i agree with what you said with prismalline but i still disagree with Spear of Paleolith, ive tested it against the destroyer and while its not horrible its still worse than any other class, mage's frigidflash bolt, ranger's napalm arrows, and melee's various swords that can do amazing against the destroyer all have much higher dps than the Spear of Paleolith

[elder mist]

What weapons are you discussing about ranger and melee

[smoky wagon]

ark of the ancients maybe

[ashen warren]

can i reccomond a sub class?

[elder mist]

Because if you're talking about daedalus stormbow, that's a given, and melee is obvious good vs worms considering the fact that they have high damage and deal damage to multiple parts of a worm

[frail mantle]

i think suggesting a subclass is fine, just not full on new classes

[hearty ermine]

for ranger i remember the flarewing bow/ onyx blaster being good with their respective explosive ammo

[ashen warren]

ok thx dead meme

[smoky wagon]

i think icebreaker being given autofire would be good

weapons lacking autofire adds nothing to the game in most cases and shouldnt be a balancing point

[hearty ermine]

for melee i remember the majestic gaurd being great

[ashen warren]

i cant come up with anything

[hearty ermine]

edited suggestion to add changes for cursed dagger and fix use time (i thought higher meant faster so i fixed that)

[void kelp]

majestic guard + grand guardian is godly for true melee

[smoky wagon]

@ashen warren shadowspec bar items arent allowed, but calamitous essence is

[distant gyro]

@ashen warren Shadowspec Bars is beaned

[smoky wagon]

[hollow shell]

Also, some line breaks (enters) would be very appreciated for readability

[hearty ermine]

are suggestions for rare items allowed?

[frail mantle]

i think so yea

[hearty ermine]

k

[hollow shell]

Surprisingly not a lot of suggestions for rares
I can only think of one

[hearty ermine]

making one now

[gusty geode]

Oof mine died out at 84
if anyone decides to go looking for it, be a dear and upvote C.A.T.'s just below that, they had good stuff too

[radiant meadow]

@ashen warren you're not allowed to use shadowspec bars in a recipe
also, dropping from yharon (presumably the treasure bag) puts it at post phase 1, not 2

[arctic tapir]

Oof

I feel bad for the person who typed that huge rogue suggestion

Seemingly not knowing that rogue isn’t done

[patent oar]

how far up and how often is suggestions checked for 90 star suggestions?

[ruby cobalt]

how far: from the point the dev responsible for it ended their previous check
how often: whenever it happens

[patent oar]

just wondering what would happen if a dev checked a suggestion, saw it at lets say 65 stars then it goes up to 90 by next check

it probably depends on the time gap

[hearty ermine]

@arctic tapir i know its not done, its just fun to make suggestions, and there is still a chance they might get implemented.

[ashen warren]

@radiant meadow Sorry, I didn't know they were allowed. I changed the 3rd one so it will only drop from SCal as a suggestion. (But I think the Abyss Biome Weapon one should come, because you know, it's pretty cool as it came from my mind.)

@carmine stream What about Dreadon? That can be possible.

[ashen warren]

can i post a remake of someones suggestion

[terse sundial]

yeah

[queen sail]

Wasn’t it just said that wulfrum’s meant to be slightly better beginner stuff but overall worse at everything else

[civic pond]

i remember something along those lines

[queen sail]

Yeah wulfrum’s meant to be better than wood stuff but suck in comparison to everything else

[civic pond]

and wood sucks

i mean realllllly sucks

[queen sail]

Also is it really that hard to find like

5 bombs and get a hammer

[distant gyro]

tbh musket is good enough for an early game gun

[gusty geode]

Imo not every kind of weapon should be available at all times
There's not as much of a sense of progression if there is

[distant gyro]

consider the following : you get bombs from the starter bag

[civic pond]

and demon scythe is pre boss

[cyan lagoon]

1. Demon scythe is not ranger, it's mage.
2. You're not even supposed to go down to hell anyway until after the Evil biome boss, but sequence breaking.

[queen sail]

Good luck doing armageddon with demons tbh

They’ll smack your ass so hard you’ll be kicked out of hell

@still cliff gemstone blocks exist

[still cliff]

And?

Tetris bricks

Why am I so bad at suggestions

Ok understood

Its like furniture

But ok

[smoky wagon]

Nerf pickaxes

Why?

[hearty ermine]

why nerf the pickaxe, its just convenient, if you think its op dont use it

[smoky wagon]

^

[icy cove]

It makes iron and tungsten pickaxes useless

[smoky wagon]

So?

Iron and tungsten weapons are all bad as is

[icy cove]

Wulfrum is supposed to be worse

[hearty ermine]

those were already useless because the reaver shark exists

[queen delta]

Wulfrum was already nerfed

[smoky wagon]

Wulfrum is supposed to be better than vanilla early game gear to speed up progression

Early game is boring

[queen delta]

^

I support anything that speeds up early game without making it too boring and easy

[gusty geode]

That logic could be applied to any overpowered item, yet they always get nerfed anyway
See Halibut Cannon, EoW lore item (probably), RoD (several times), Stormbow...

[smoky wagon]

Ancient fossil exists anyway

[icy cove]

Those dont outclass specific things, except for halibut cannon which is intentional

[gusty geode]

RoD has nothing to outclass
And before it was nerfed I remember people saying you were gimping yourself if you didn't use the Stormbow pre-mechs

[hearty ermine]

so? phantasm outclasses astral defeat, seafoam bomb outclasses seashell boomerang

[smoky wagon]

idt phantasm outclasses astreal defeat

they are different tiers

[queen sail]

I’m pretty sure you can’t even mine the sunken sea blocks with wulfrum pick

[hearty ermine]

was astral defeat buffed?

[smoky wagon]

astreal defeat is post-ml

[hearty ermine]

yes but the point is phantasm is better

even for being earlier

[icy cove]

Questionable opinion but ok

[smoky wagon]

astreal defeat is better if you use it right im pretty sure

[icy cove]

^

[smoky wagon]

some weapons are suboptimal if you just click them on enemies

[hearty ermine]

i disagree, but there are still plenty of examples of earlier items out classing later ones. a pickaxe isnt much of an issue

[smoky wagon]

Some need spacing or special aim

[icy cove]

Yeah weapons can be used in different ways to be better, but a pickaxe is a pickaxe

[smoky wagon]

pickaxe balancing is already out of whack regardless

[queen sail]

You realize it’s just better in terms of speed right

[icy cove]

Yes

[smoky wagon]

its not an important issue

[queen sail]

And the mining speed config exists

[hearty ermine]

its not even a balance issue any ways, all it does is save time, not mine meteorite or kill a boss

[queen sail]

It’s like the shroomite digging claw being the best pick for speed in late vanilla hardmode despite picksaw being the one with the higher mining power

[smoky wagon]

reaver shark in vanilla

[queen sail]

You can dig fast but it’s not gonna get you everything

[icy cove]

Neither of u them are useless though, the wulfrum pick makes iron useless. Maybe iron and tungsten gear needs a buff instead

[hearty ermine]

that would be a better option

[icy cove]

Ill edit my suggestion to that then

[queen sail]

People would complain about “Lmao look its Calamity destroying vanilla balance again ” tbh

[gusty geode]

Look at this way
Yes, they don't have to use an item if they don't want to
But it's best to just assume they will and let's be real here, they probably will rather leaving something overpowered behind and hoping for the best

[queen sail]

Despite the fact that vanilla balance tends to be whack sometimes

[smoky wagon]

Vanilla balance is worse

Calamity makes it better most cases but some gear still innevitably gets left behind

[queen sail]

Smth smth “Thorium godmod”

[icy cove]

True, but this one is really obvious

[gusty geode]

Meteor Armor nerf was unnecessary, it was bottomless ammo on one weapon that was easily outclassed by others in its tier

[smoky wagon]

I think there are more glaring balancing issues

Like the flarefrost blade

[queen sail]

I mean just nerf the pick power then

[hearty ermine]

whats wrong with flarefrost blade?

[queen sail]

There used to be an antlion digging claw iirc

[smoky wagon]

Flarefrost is in the same tier as ark of the ancients

[icy cove]

Pickaxe power doesn't mean anything until you get to meteorite really

[gusty geode]

Yeah, I think I remember that

[smoky wagon]

And lets just says it cant compare

Same with catastrophe claymore

[hearty ermine]

its good or bad?

[smoky wagon]

Horrible

dps is worse than pre mech stuff

[hearty ermine]

yikes

[smoky wagon]

they both desperately need buffs

[gusty geode]

True Tyrant's Ultisword isn't even taken seriously as a weapon last I checked

[queen sail]

I remember something about “useless weapons exist to make others seem better”

[hearty ermine]

ive never even crafted it

[queen sail]

Or something

[smoky wagon]

True tyrants is good for sentinels and stuff

[queen sail]

Me neither until fargo made calamity souls

Now i make it for tarragon

[hearty ermine]

fargos is great

[queen sail]

The fact that calamity’s armors have so many effects that fargo doesn’t even feel the need to add more to the actual enchantments/souls

[smoky wagon]

also floodtide needs a buff

[queen sail]

What’s a floodtide

[smoky wagon]

forgot about that

[queen sail]

[smoky wagon]

the sword that shoots sharks

[radiant meadow]

is true tyrant bad on polter or something?

[smoky wagon]

Used in terratomre

garbo

sadly

Despite it being a cool idea

[queen sail]

Ik i was making a joke about how it’s a crafting sword

[smoky wagon]

Xeroc greatsword 😔

[hearty ermine]

theres also issues like all consumable rouge weapons being utterly useless

[smoky wagon]

tarragon trowing darts are good for signut

when i used them

[frail mantle]

pitchforks are good in the newest updates i think

[smoky wagon]

Xeroc pitchforks already were good for prov

[hearty ermine]

havent used those but all hardmode and prehardmode ones are crap

[smoky wagon]

Xeroc pitchforks already were good for prov

yeah pre hardmode ones could be buffed

not unusable though

[hearty ermine]

no need for prehardmode ones when seafoam and crystaline outclass all of them

and are pre boss

[smoky wagon]

Seafoam pre boss? 🤔

desert scourge is insulted

[hearty ermine]

desert scourge is pretty much pre boss lmao

[smoky wagon]

[hearty ermine]

jk i love desert scourge, i dont want to hurt his feelings

[radiant meadow]

xeroc pitchforks aren't good for providence anymore

they're pretty good for Moon Lord though

[smoky wagon]

thats fine

Post ml rogue meta is one weapon now i guess

😔

[radiant meadow]

elemental disk

[smoky wagon]

Multiplayer lag

[queen sail]

Imagine playing multiplayer

[gusty geode]

Not possible afaik

[hollow shell]

I'm sure its possible

There's already code for meteors avoiding chests

The hard part is appending the vanilla code for their generation

[gusty geode]

Maybe you could make it so it can't spawn within a certain radius of Astral Ore, but then you run the risk of people spreading the stuff out across the world to prevent meteors from ever falling
And they will do it given the chance, I guarantee it

[queen delta]

This suggestion is like adding pasta to the noodly vanilla code

[hollow shell]

(why would that be a problem, squid?)

[queen delta]

Meteors cant land within a certain range of chests iirc

[hollow shell]

Yes

[queen delta]

So someone can just place chests all over the world and prevent meteorites

[gusty geode]

Blame me being hipster again
You shouldn't be able to completely block out a random event like that imo, regardless of the effort you need to go through to do it

[queen delta]

It's not new, and if the player doesnt want meteorites, then they have the option to do so

[chrome osprey]

Yeah, and making a bunch of chests and placing them is prolly easier than getting a bunch of the ore and spreading it

[queen delta]

[ashen warren]

@sick bane Dude that's illegal

[sick bane]

Still

[ashen warren]

Not a valid excuse my dude

[sick bane]

I like the idea of it

[ashen warren]

Well, then get a mod that re-adds it

[terse sundial]

@radiant meadow you wanna burn this meme suggestion?

[delicate raft]

After all these years people still want it smh

[ashen warren]

bruh

Just fyi Sensei:
"Any suggestions that’s related to the removed content (E.g. An Astrageldon Slime pet) is fine. However, LORDE is an exception to this and any suggestions related to him will be disregarded without hesitation."

Lorde is a begone momentum

@marsh gust

[frosty kindle]

no meme suggestions allowed @sick bane

[terse sundial]

mfw termi doesn't respond

[ashen warren]

termi died

[terse sundial]

thanks Fish

[marsh gust]

oh fish beat me to it, i was talking with doc

[sick bane]

Damnit I was editing it to be less of a meme

[delicate raft]

Anything lorde-related would be a meme

[ashen warren]

If it had the lorde, it was gonna be ded anyways

[frosty kindle]

LORDE is a dead meme. If you want him back, use Apotheosis&Friends mod.

[delicate raft]

[sick bane]

True

I just like the idea of a boss or enemy that needs you to be prepared for literally anything

[zenith hazel]

again, the classic case of "i didn't read the pins but i'm gonna suggest something anyway"

[sick bane]

I read the pins

Guess I just missed it

Oops

Sorry about that

Hey, I tried to make it less jokey and memey

Is it alright now or should I scrap the idea?

[hollow shell]

That sounds
like a bad idea

Buggy RNG Hell, the Enemy

[zenith hazel]

prototype lorde

[sick bane]

I swear, I'm trying to change it away

But still keep the randomness

It's diffixult

[hollow shell]

maybe the concept is bad

[sick bane]

Oh well

I'll see if it gets taken down or if people star it 😅

[zenith hazel]

post-ml projectiles
scal's gigablasts

[marsh gust]

aureus' one hitting 'summons'

[hollow shell]

Those are NPCs tho

[zenith hazel]

yharon's flarenadoes...? idk if those count

[sick bane]

E

[marsh gust]

oh oops
the idea of having an enemy thats complete RNG is questionable tho, might as well play a slot machine

[sick bane]

Read the suggestions for the post ml mana stick

It's kind of based on that

But against you, not for you

[hollow shell]

that's also not a great suggestion

[zenith hazel]

but it can still spawn scal's projectiles

[sick bane]

But only after scal is dead?

[zenith hazel]

then what's even the point of that enemy anymore if scal's dead?

by that point, you can definitely one shot it

[sick bane]

You won't be seeing gigablasts, that's the point

What's the point of any enemy after scal is dead?

[zenith hazel]

ok but if it's a pre-hm enemy, will its stats scale during hm and post-ml?

[hollow shell]

Yes

[zenith hazel]

oh noes

[sick bane]

Is there a channel or server for shitpost and meme suggestions?

[zenith hazel]

no

[marsh gust]

no. there never will be.

[sick bane]

Oh well

[hearty ermine]

At this point someone should just make a calamity meme discord so people will take their shitposts elsewhere

[sick bane]

Yeah

[hollow shell]

I mean

Apoth's server exists
as does CalPaint's

[hearty ermine]

Fair point

Send them all to apotheosis

[sick bane]

Lmao

Yay someone starred my suggestion

Idk why

[zenith hazel]

ok so what you're saying is, the enemy gains a boss's projectile once you've killed that boss

despite your suggestion saying "any kind of projectile"

[sick bane]

I mean, yes, but that's only with bosses

[zenith hazel]

alright, what about AEW's projectiles?

it's not a boss

[sick bane]

Aew?

[zenith hazel]

adult eidolon wyrms

[sick bane]

Oh

[icy cove]

It throws you around

[sick bane]

They're pretty much post ml

[hollow shell]

Alright
I assume that the damage will be the same regardless of projectile

[zenith hazel]

but they can spawn anytime

[icy cove]

They're pretty much impossible

[hollow shell]

Because damage is not defined in the projectile file
It is defined in the place that called it

[icy cove]

Best enemy

[sick bane]

Yes

The projectile would just have the properties

[hollow shell]

It'd actually be easier to do it that way rather than have it inherit the damage

[sick bane]

Like if you got spazmatism's breath, you'd get cursed flames

Abyssal flames oh god

Hehe

[hollow shell]

(Abyssal Flames is the same as Brimstone Flames for the player)

[sick bane]

Oh

They seem different to me

[hollow shell]

They aren't :P

[icy cove]

Medusa crossed with a trasher crossed with a eidolon worm, oh god

[sick bane]

That's the fun of it

It's either really easy or stupid difficult

[swift bison]

i was going to suggest a prehardmode pickaxe with 35% power that mines super fast but then i remembered onyx excavator exists

[sick bane]

How do you get that by the way? I can only find it in the cheat sheet mod

[swift bison]

granite biome shrine

[hollow shell]

No, Caverns shrine

Granite is Unstable Prism

[sick bane]

Sky island shrine

[icy cove]

Is that a suggestion?

[zenith hazel]

are you referring to to the magnet sphere?

if so, there already is an upgrade to that (magnetic meltdown)

[hollow shell]

@spiral quartz

^

[spiral quartz]

Oh ok thanks!

[queen sail]

@spiral quartz

1. 400 damage is already higher than Void Vortex, the rare variant of Voltaic Climax (aka the Magnetic Meltdown upgrade)
2. It's probably short ranged for balance

[queen delta]

Wasn't void vortex the upgrade to voltaic climax? just cuz the projectiles act more same

[queen sail]

Void Vortex is technically an upgrade

But it's the rare variant

It does the most damage in comparison to magnet sphere, magnetic meltdown, and voltaic climax, at 300 damage

VC only does 90

[hollow shell]

Base damage doesnt mean much when custom iframes are a factor

[queen sail]

That and VV's orbs are more chaotic then VC's

You can constantly put VC's orbs in a specific position while VV's go everywhere and cost twice as much

[queen delta]

Well It doesn't make much of a difference since they still have good range

[bitter drift]

@sick bane se
yoi could have at least contacted me for this suggestion......

[sick bane]

Why?

I'm just sort of basing mine off yours

Did I need your permission?

If so then sorry

What do you think of it?

[bitter drift]

yes kind of
also this suggestion of mine isn't the OG
the OG suggestion of this type of weapon was made by umbrella
it was firstly a post SCal weapon that can summon every projectile

then i asked if i can refine it and it's made my suggestion
if you want to modify the suggestion of someone you need a premition
but also i like the idea itself of an enemy for this weapon

[sick bane]

Oh

Well thanks and sorry

[bitter drift]

just remember this time I'll let you off the hook

but if you want to modify someone's suggestions you need to ask them

[sick bane]

Sorry

[ruby cobalt]

I'll give this exactly one

[elder kestrel]

Actually, you don't need permission.
As long as you're not outright stealing the suggestion - and you're just modifying it, and gave credit (which you did), you don't need permission

[hollow shell]

@lucid marsh Cant suggest dev items

[queen sail]

Dok's decision @lucid marsh

[lucid marsh]

I wouldn’t consider that a dev item

But ok

[hollow shell]

It is

[lucid marsh]

I assumed it would be in a category of it’s own

[queen sail]

If it's dedicated to a dev, then it counts

Dok was already suggested adding his banhammer as a dev wep and he declined

Don't think this will gain any traction either

[lucid marsh]

Good point, I guess Dokuro counts as a dev, and he just hasn’t had his implemented yet

[sick bane]

Hey somewhat sors, what's your dev weapon? You have the dev role...

[arctic wren]

If Dokuro wants an item of his own added in he'll just ask for one, I assume
Looks like he doesn't want one

[tulip parcel]

If he did have an item I think it'd be fitting to have it be like, a jukebox

[queen sail]

Rover probably hasn't thought of one

[quiet abyss]

Some devs don't have dev items yet

[queen sail]

Or doesn't want one

Depends

[sick bane]

Oh

[quiet abyss]

Either because they don't want one, they haven't think of one yet, or because rn there's no one that's able to work on their dev item yet
The last one happen fairly often due to the workload

[sick bane]

Helicopter your profile pic makes me sad :(

[queen sail]

what even is that pfp though

sad upside down ghost?

[quiet abyss]

A helicopter from jsut shapes and beats, but that's offtopic

[sick bane]

It's the helicopter from just shapes and beats

[queen sail]

oh

[sick bane]

Do you have a dev weapon?

[queen delta]

Aye celebrating hardcore update for JSAB i see

[sick bane]

:)

[quiet abyss]

I don't have one, no
I haven't really thought of one yet

[sick bane]

It can just be a helicopter

You hit people with it

Lol imagine that

[elfin maple]

I keep seeing this "any random projectile" suggestion and it kinda bugs me for several reasons

1. It'd be ludicrously hard, if not impossible, to program

2. If it can select any projectile, even modded ones, then it could summon a projectile that just instantly kills the player

[zenith hazel]

the second problem got addressed earlier

[elfin maple]

3. It would be too inconsistent to be balanced

Yeah

I don't think it'd be able to select any modded projectile

Maybe just Calamity and vanilla

[proven tide]

it wouldn't be that hard, would it?

something something lorde any ai

[nimble dock]

I realized in the pins that I should discuss my suggestions and ask questions before I actually post them, so I deleted my suggestion in hopes to get people's thoughts.

Have the Leviathan and Siren lore item cause the Young Siren pet to not be in its state of flopping about while the player is above water (can function the same as if it was in the flopping state, just floating around instead).

Why: I like the little siren pet, but seeing it flop around is kinda sad looking, imo. I'd like to be able to always use this pet, out of water or not, without it looking like a dying fish.

Also possibly have the Spelunker effect that she gets with the lore item and other items that give said effect brighten up Chaotic ore, as it makes her somewhat useless in one of the situations you'll most likely be in where you'd want to use her (as you'll likely fight Levi and Siren soon before you fight Golem, which gives you the Picksaw to mine Chaotic ore)

I can't be the only one that finds this sad

[frosty kindle]

a nice touch regardless

[nimble dock]

The flopping? Yeah, I do have to admit that. But hey, I think it'd at least make some sort of sense for this feature to be added.

[frosty kindle]

before, siren light pet invalidated literally everything else and was obtainable pre-HM
(had same light properties and versatility as wisp)

[nimble dock]

I'd like it, at least

Hmm, I see

But is it not possible to keep the same light as if you were on the ground without the item while also having her float around?

Or maybe this could be a way to bring her back to her "former glory" without it being broken, since the lore item is mid-hardmode

Well, technically not because Siren can spawn before hardmode, but I don't see how that's really much of an issue, considering how difficult and time consuming it'd be to kill them pre-hardmode

[frosty kindle]

actually, that in itself isn't a bad idea
although something related is that when the siren pet is equipped alongside the Leviathan/Siren lore item placed in inventory, the player gets permanent spelunker effect for as long as those conditions are met

[nimble dock]

Well, it'd make even more sense to not have her be flopping around considering that. Hard to really be of much use while you're gasping for air, so having her give the spelunker effect while she is seems a bit weird, doesn't it?

[frosty kindle]

although you could suggest the siren pet buff (with leviathan/siren lore item in inventory) with the "bring back to former glory" as a reasoning, and see how far the suggestion goes

and we don't really know, the lore items are quite special anyways

[proven tide]

That'd actually be a shot in the foot

[nimble dock]

wdym?

[frosty kindle]

chances may not be high but it'd be interesting to see how the suggestion goes

[proven tide]

'hey can we make this change to essentially revert to a previous version' suggestions tend to get overlooked, alongside anything that could be read as such

i'm on board though

[nimble dock]

Well, it's not exactly a reversion I'd think

[proven tide]

Yes, but 'bring back to former glory' mightn't be the best way of explaining it

[nimble dock]

And she doesn't need to give her water light effect, I just want to see her floating

[proven tide]

That's all

[frosty kindle]

true

and having her float is nicer than seeing her flop around
but shadow orb shall remain best light pet because it tries its best and that's what matters

[nimble dock]

Anyways, what about the other suggestion I put alongside that about the spelunker effect not functioning on Chaotic ore?

It is an ore in one of the darkest areas in the game, if not the darkest.

[nimble dock]

Nothing? Bad idea? Good idea?

[proven tide]

erm

i would go to say that spelunker is actually most valuable for chaotic ore

[nimble dock]

wdym?

[proven tide]

spelunker would be most useful in looking for chaotic ore

gives it a time to shine

geddit

[nimble dock]

That doesn't help me determine if it's good to keep with the suggestion

[proven tide]

I mean

ah fuck it

brain too low

[mental path]

Man I'd rather have the siren act like the wisp on ground again over the spelunker effect

[nimble dock]

Could have both, if the devs choose to go that way with my suggestion (if they choose to go anywhere with it to begin with)

[proven tide]

@solar plank that couldn't really happen, though

defeat a boss with defiled on, then defeat it with defiled off

two of the same treasure bag in one stack

metadata is nuked

[vague karma]

that's a big nay

[proven tide]

ya

[solar plank]

I'm talking about obtaining the bag without defiled and before opening it you turn it on for added money

[zenith hazel]

but the rare drops...

[solar plank]

That too

[proven tide]

@solar plank

you don't get it though

[solar plank]

I get it now I read through it again

[proven tide]

yeah

[solar plank]

I'll remove it

[proven tide]

@vague karma What kind of content? What did you have in mind?

[vague karma]

maybe more weapons, maybe a new boss

maybe even a structure

[void kelp]

you should be more specific imo

[cyan lagoon]

@cosmic jungle they only work while in the inventory

so if you get rid of that they're useless

[zenith hazel]

isn't that the whole point of lore items?

[void kelp]

iirc additional slots are hell to code

[cosmic jungle]

The point of it is so you don't have them filling your inv up

[shell lynx]

seems like a fair price for stat boosts

[zenith hazel]

hasn't a lore book been suggested already and got like over 100 stars?

[steep vine]

I didn't know that the idea already existed! I still think it's a good idea though

I mean it's still just an idea, I just didn't know someone came up with the idea first

[grizzled lintel]

but then mantis claws exist

[cyan lagoon]

but those are post plantera

[grizzled lintel]

still

[cyan lagoon]

fetid is immediately after wof

[void kelp]

also baghnaks aren’t actually overpowered ime bc contact damage still hits like a truck

[zenith hazel]

does facetanking bosses in hm work in death?

[potent veldt]

Absolutely

[void kelp]

not in only calamity

[vague karma]

this is meme wepaon, so what do you expect?

[queen sail]

I mean yeah that’s the one drawback to baghnaks

However it’s spelled

[zenith hazel]

it's pretty high risk tbh

[queen sail]

It’s got low range

[distant gyro]

answer to the facetank question

[void kelp]

like. how strong facetanking is depends on your loadout + mods

[zenith hazel]

sub shocker is better imo

[queen sail]

I mean even in vanilla

[void kelp]

sub shocker doesn’t count since sub shocker is a weed whacker

[queen sail]

Proper melee speed increasing modifiers increased its use time to the point where it was just a frame

[zenith hazel]

ok so you can

[potent veldt]

The contact damage is usually nullified by how much defense you have and the CrossNecklace can make it you kill certain bosses so fast that only one tick of contact damage happens

[zenith hazel]

there's a melee speed cap now

[queen sail]

Literally just a frozen frame of the baghnaks jn air

[vague karma]

but yeah, baghnaks are op, beacause baghnaks>baghnaks

[void kelp]

yeah, there’s a speed cap

[zenith hazel]

don't think baghnakhs have only 1 frame anymore

[terse sundial]

100% melee speed is the hardcap'

[void kelp]

• true melee isn’t super like. weak. it’s high risk, high reward which is where it thrives

[zenith hazel]

besides, sub shocker is better anyway so why not nerf that instead?

[distant gyro]

true melee is kinda like summoner in a way, that you have to completely rework your strategy

such as forcing certain bosses to get stuck on the floor for sub shocker to work

[void kelp]

yeah. it’s really fun and worth it imo

[potent veldt]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9_JpXi0RFk This entire video shows what I mean about Fetid Baghnakhs

[distant gyro]

^

[zenith hazel]

facetanking with true melee: somewhat acceptable
facetanking with summoners: hell naw

[distant gyro]

it's changed a lot now

melee speed is hardcapped now so ultra true meme is dead

[void kelp]

nah, it’s not dead

[distant gyro]

as in omniblade not moving, not saying the class is dead smh

[void kelp]

w calamity items (RIVs and shrine loot) you can get like. 265% bonus on damage

but that’s off topic

[zenith hazel]

melee speed got capped but DoG's lore is a thing now

[terse sundial]

yeah, thats an old video

[distant gyro]

omniblade will now always have a swing animation now afaik, instead of just sticking out and attacking every tick

[elder mist]

relying on old outdated stuff to make a suggestion instead of doing your own research with the game's latest patch

:thinkong:

[terse sundial]

moment right there

p sure we've had an abyss torch for a while in-game
https://calamitymod.gamepedia.com/Abyss_Torch

[ivory heart]

Oh

Problem: Lumenyl is hardmode.

[queen sail]

I mean

You’re not meant to go down that deep into the abyss prehm

Just get as much abyss house loot as you can before layer 3

[radiant meadow]

ye, all of Crab's true melee vids are outdated

[ashen warren]

Nerfing stuff is dumb

[open prairie]

i see

[ashen warren]

This isnt some competitive multiplayer game, if its too strong dont use it

[open prairie]

lmfao

sure

[ashen warren]

Its not like someone else using something hurts you in any way

[hearty spade]

It doesn't work like that

Using overpowered stuff takes the fun away

[ashen warren]

Then dont use it forehead

[hearty spade]

And if there's more op stuff, then there's less stuff that is actually fun to use

[ashen warren]

Terraria doesnt have a creative mode, if someone wants to use something stronk let them

[hearty spade]

Terraria doesn't have a creative mode, sure, but it has CheatSheet wich basically is the same thing

[ashen warren]

Plus i have a personal problem with nerfing vanilla stuff here

Because basically every calamity weapon is stronger than vanilla stuff

[hearty spade]

Yeah I don't like it either, but nerfing stuff from the mod itself isn't bad

[frail mantle]

some vanilla items are deserving of nerfs

[ashen warren]

Y though

[frail mantle]

like the Cheesebow

[ashen warren]

If you are too proud to use it, then just dont

[frail mantle]

so they're not as ridiculously powerful

[ashen warren]

But surely feeling ridiculously powerful is fun

[frail mantle]

they still need balancing even if they're meant to be op

[ashen warren]

Not everyone finds the same things fun

[frail mantle]

if you want to feel ridiculously powerful, just play the game normally and get to endgame

[ashen warren]

I could have worded that better, but what i mean is some people like using powerful gear

or get halibut

And those people should learn restraint if they want to get the most fun out of, y'know, accomplishing stuff with a challenge

Like you say using op stuff isnt fun but it also wouldnt be fun to kill calamitas with a copper shortsword

[frail mantle]

what

[zenith hazel]

using op stuff isn’t fun when you didn’t work hard to get there tbh

[frail mantle]

most weapons are meant to be good, but not so god that they shred bosses

[ashen warren]

Not really, using the calamity mod basically makes all vanilla gear pointless

[frail mantle]

not all vanilla gear

a lot of vanilla gear is good, and can even be better than Calamity alternatives

[ashen warren]

Until they are nerfed that is

[frail mantle]

wh

are you implying that the devs nerf anything that can be considered good gear

[ashen warren]

Like the hypocrisy of not having powerful vanilla gear but making the mod stuff dreadfully strong

[frail mantle]

a lot of vanilla gear is powerful

[ashen warren]

And they either get nerfed or made obsolete by modded gear

[frail mantle]

things like the Last Prism, Stardust Dragon and Memebow are better than Calamity alternatives you get at the time

usually, the only times the Calamidevs nerf weapons is when they're too strong compared to other classes/other alternatives at the time afaik

[smoky wagon]

Just dont have the potion in your inventory lol

[fossil torrent]

it's useful to keep in your inventory though, having to put away the potion every time you've used it kinda defeats the purpose of it. it's annoying if you would have to regrab it every time you had to use it, since it's quite useful when farming stuff.

i'd rather just not use it at all in that case

[smoky wagon]

Use a money trough

[fossil torrent]

you don't get my point.

[smoky wagon]

its no work at all to just keep it in the piggy bank until you need it

[fossil torrent]

but what's the reason that it's considered a buff potion, though? when would you possibly want it to activate as a buff potion?

there's literally no point

THAT's the reason for the suggestion

[smoky wagon]

because it gives a buff

[fossil torrent]

shaking my fucking head

[smoky wagon]

It would be better to ask for the potion to be reclassified

not for it to be some random exception compared to other buffs

[fossil torrent]

that is exactly what i am doing

[novel pebble]

Smh

[smoky wagon]

You edited the sugg

lol

Its better now

i still dont think its a big deal

[fossil torrent]

i edited that before you started arguing

[smoky wagon]

😔

[bitter drift]

Devourer_Of_Gods_PL
sorry to be rude and pin you but maybe i can suggest something on this suggestion to make from the start of the crages to the end of the world there this biome

[frail mantle]

you didn't ping him lmao

what sort of biome do you mean?

[bitter drift]

the crags... in his suggestion...
that i was referring to....
not meant to be spam

also what lore items don't have a power up?

[frail mantle]

biome lore items, the Mechanical Bosses item, Guardians, Birb and Sentinels

[bitter drift]

ok thanjs

done what do you think

[distant gyro]

why irradiated

Irradiated is a weird debuff

it increases and decreases player stats, rather than enemy stats

Venom and /or Poison would be more appropriate imo

[frail mantle]

i like the Crags one cause that lava effect is the worst part of the biome

[distant gyro]

also I think full immunity is a bit op, maybe 10 seconds

[bitter drift]

maybe becuase enemies can't get it

also posion amd venom are sone what weak venom has a lot of enemies immune to it

and posion is not that good for the place you get it at

[distant gyro]

Maybe for abyss, decrease detection of abyss enemies

wait is there even abyss lore

[bitter drift]

yes altix it is for 10 seconds

[distant gyro]

--there isn't abyss lore

[bitter drift]

well shit : this is its power when it gets in so

[distant gyro]

btw there's also lore items for crimson, corruption, ocean left in terms of biome lore items that have no effects

[bitter drift]

ah sorry I'll think

[zealous ridge]

what does stars stars everywhere mean? is that just stars constantly falling around you?

[bitter drift]

a lot of homing stars fall at once

[zealous ridge]

when you get hit or just all the time?

[bitter drift]

it's only for one time and then have a 40 seconds recharge time

[zealous ridge]

ahhh okay

so you can like activate it?

interesting...

[bitter drift]

i did actually known much about the lores i thought they were useless till recently

[frail mantle]

i'm guessing that once it activates you have to wait 40 seconds for it to activate again

[bitter drift]

yes

[zealous ridge]

corruption is a little confusing

[bitter drift]

why it's the most straightforward one

[zealous ridge]

is it make the shadethrower cursed flames or something? its just worded a little strangely

[frail mantle]

wait, does the Crimson one give god piss immunity temporarily, and you have to exit and enter the Crimson for it to reactivate?

[bitter drift]

NO SHADETHROWER
shadow flamethrower (from the hard mode SHADOW FLAMES)

no it's everywhere but it's really short

[zealous ridge]

like a flame attack then?

[frail mantle]

how would that work

[bitter drift]

yea like DoGgy's

[frail mantle]

would it provide immunity for a few seconds and then you have to wait a few seconds to get the immunity again?

[zealous ridge]

just coming from the player, like how the stars thing works? its an attack that you can activate and then have to wait for a bit to use again?

[bitter drift]

yes and yes

[zealous ridge]

i think the crimson one is like you can activate ichor immunity and life regen for a few seconds

and then you have to wait for a bit yes i SEE NOW

okay thank you for explaining

[bitter drift]

nvm this is stupid I'm stupid

[frail mantle]

imo the Hell one should summon the minions permanently, but they disappear upon exiting Hell

[bitter drift]

ok

[novel pebble]

Why is the corruption called correction

[bitter drift]

auto correction

[radiant meadow]

irradiated causes enemies to lose life

all enemies (and the player) are afflicted by it when the player is the sulphurous sea and it's rainign

[hollow shell]

@mortal oracle Examples would be appreciated

also, "more compatible" would be better phrasing than "less collidable"

[mortal oracle]

idk how to make examples, when i use both they make my game crash suddenly, when i open the game again it takes less time to crash again

[hollow shell]

Oh

[frail mantle]

that sounds like a bug

[hollow shell]

And you have nothing else enabled except Calamity and Thorium?
And you can enable either one individually and it doesn't crash?

[mortal oracle]

idk

i do and yes

[wind flicker]

Could be a memory problem

[mortal oracle]

MaYbE

[hollow shell]

@ashen lark It used to but that got removed for several reasons.

[ashen lark]

No thats lorde

Isnt it

[hollow shell]

Yes

[frail mantle]

and LORDE will never rise again from the depths of Hell

[ashen lark]

I mean an actual yharim that cant be damaged at all

[hollow shell]

Nah

Yharim as a real boss is coming in the future, so be patient

[ashen lark]

Because of that you have to either relog or die

[frail mantle]

why would you even want that

[bitter topaz]

smh
@ashen lark can we not post meme suggestions? at all.
have a warn.

[worthy fiber]

@outer holly That's a tModLoader bug iirc

[outer holly]

really?

could calamity still do configs to fix it

im guessing its not as simple as if slime mount = true and wings = true then no fall damage

[worthy fiber]

Maybe, but it's probably easier to wait for the tMod folks to fix it themselves

even if it'll take forever

[gloomy hazel]

I'm doing a placeholder, so this isn't the final result. I'll "try" to add some shades and more details. But for now it's a WIP.

[hearty ermine]

what is it?

[gloomy hazel]

It's supposed to be a mech

[hearty ermine]

is it like a mount?

[gloomy hazel]

Uh, yeah

[hearty ermine]

idk could have been a sword lol

[gloomy hazel]

a...sword?

[hearty ermine]

ive seen crazier things

[gloomy hazel]

Ah, I see

[queen delta]

Just grab the leg and swing it like a sword

[gloomy hazel]

Nah

It's not what I want

[timber totem]

Now I'm imagining a mod where you use bosses as weapons

[queen delta]

Just wrap your arms around plantera and squeeze to shoot her petals at enemies

[gloomy hazel]

I was more thinking of a mech you can pilot (it's a mount) for combat purpose

I'll also add a jetpack for the sprinting

not a jetpack to hover over the ground, but like a jetpack that thursts you forward to gain ground speed

[timber totem]

Like a dash?

[gloomy hazel]

Nah, more like if you were riding the Basilisk mount

I mean that once you reach max speed, you deal contact damages to any ennemy that you touch

you can imagine yourself "squishing" weaker ennemies just by running into them

Actually, yeah. Why not a dash?

[cyan lagoon]

@sleek mason theres a final boss planned

It's yharim

but he won't be coming for a long time

[sleek mason]

Aww

[cyan lagoon]

Besides, Supreme Calamitas is as tough Calamitas will be

we don't really need an even stronger version of her

[sleek mason]

True I can't defeat her

[carmine stream]

isnt xeroc supposed to be the final boss?

[cyan lagoon]

@grizzled abyss thats a bug

Well, kinda

Xeroc is the final superboss

in main progression however, it's Yharim

[grizzled abyss]

Thought so

Is it something they know about?

[cyan lagoon]

I'm sure its known

[sleek mason]

I didn't know there is xerco is there?

[cyan lagoon]

Yes, there is indeed a Xeroc

[hollow shell]

It doesn't seem to be in the bugs doc

[hearty yew]

LMAO me

forgetting which channel is which

[cyan lagoon]

To put it in simple

It's essentially the ruler of all

[sleek mason]

Show me a picture please

[devout seal]

There isn't one.

[cyan lagoon]

xeroc has no confirmed design

and he probably won't for long time

[sleek mason]

Aww

[carmine stream]

isn’t it supposed to be yharon -> draedon -> yharim -> scal -> goozma -> xeroc?

[cyan lagoon]

not really

[radiant meadow]

scal and then yharim pretty sure

[cyan lagoon]

its Yharon -> Draedon -> Scal -> Yharim

[carmine stream]

then goozma and xeroc

[cyan lagoon]

yes but they are entirely optional

[sleek mason]

Funny I most not fight a lot of bosses because I only know the main bosses

I know a lot of weapons

[little raptor]

best suggestion ever

[cyan lagoon]

again, there will be one

It's Draedon

[hollow shell]

Boss suggestions are not allowed @sleek mason

[little raptor]

only mini bosses can be suggested

[sleek mason]

Sorry

[gloomy hazel]

Did some little progress for the mech.

[carmine stream]

Wasn’t Astrum Aureus a fairly recent addition?

[little raptor]

i hate that boss, but is fine i guess

[cyan lagoon]

but that wasn't a suggestion (aureus)

[carmine stream]

ik

but it’s pretty much what he wants

[wooden leaf]

@gloomy hazel can I steal the speite for my mod?

[hollow shell]

(nice phrasing)

[wooden leaf]

......

[gloomy hazel]

Who are you first of all? Echdemort

[wooden leaf]

I mean borrow

I am a human being

[gloomy hazel]

...

I'm not giving it to you if you're trying to joke

[wooden leaf]

Spriter of a mod which is not yet out

[winged ice]

If you're a spriter, you should know better than to use other sprites

[gloomy hazel]

^

[winged ice]

That's shady stuff my guy

[gloomy hazel]

shady?

[wooden leaf]

Fair point, point taken

[winged ice]

I say shady because being a spriter for a mod means that you would realistically create your own sprites, not take other ones. At least you understand, Echdemort

[gloomy hazel]

Ah, I thought you were talking to me directly. No problem

[wooden leaf]

Can I use it as inspiration for a boss?

[gloomy hazel]

Okay, as an inspiration

[wooden leaf]

Thanks

[gloomy hazel]

btw owobanned, I suck at shading. I can do sprites, I even made big sprites some years ago, but I suck for the shading part

[winged ice]

From what I see, you are off to a great start. If I may ask, what is the mech for?

[gloomy hazel]

A mount

a mechanical mount

I mean...it's already tall enough for a mount tbh

[queen delta]

Is it for a suggestion for calamity?

[gloomy hazel]

yes

wait...I think I feel dumb

because Draedon's not released yet

[young fog]

Make sure it's a miniboss if ur gonna suggest it, all regular boss suggestions are autoded

[gloomy hazel]

Oh well...might have to keep going with the sprite

Does it look better like this?

[hollow shell]

Is that in 2x2?
It looks bigger than standard Terraria size

and yes it does

[winged ice]

I like the outline much better. It makes it look more refined and part of terraria in a sense

[hollow shell]

Outlines shouldn't be pure black though
They should be colored but still very dark

Also, overall contrast could be improved, shading/detailing could be less noisy, and you've got some banding on that arm to the left

[devout seal]

Most of the bosses are 'main bosses'?

what the heck does that even mean?

[gloomy hazel]

Shading's not my strongest point, but I'm trying. For the arm, I thought having darker colors on one side would make like a lightning effect

[queen delta]

Do you make these sprites with piskel?

[gloomy hazel]

Oh yeah, I do

[hollow shell]

You could go to the art server's spriting channel for more advice

[gloomy hazel]

What? No way! I've already been in this server!

[hollow shell]

?

[gloomy hazel]

sigh nothing, it's nothing

[hollow shell]

Not a fan of the art server?

[gloomy hazel]

Not a fan, no

it's more about the people than the arts

I've reduced the noise, lightened the outline and the body's top.

Tell me if you need a bigger size (I mean to have a better view)

[ashen warren]

[hollow shell]

Nah, if anything I'd like it to be in 2x2 (right now it's in 3x3)

Another tip, don't have internal colors be darker than the outline, especially if they're touching the outline

I ought to just
delet those suggestions

there

[ashen warren]

LMAO thanks

guys

quadruple calamitas

[gloomy hazel]

I think I've posted my mech often enough.

[hollow shell]

ack it's bigger than before

[gloomy hazel]

Need me to reduce its size to x1?

[hollow shell]

That image is 4x4

[gloomy hazel]

Okay...

[hollow shell]

As in, each of your "pixels" is 4 real pixels by 4 real pixels

Terraria uses 2x2

[gloomy hazel]

wait, you told me Terraria is 2x2, right?

[hollow shell]

yea

[gloomy hazel]

oh okay

Looks better?

[hollow shell]

Yes.

That's the size it would be in-game

[gloomy hazel]

Okay, will keep that in mind

[hollow shell]

A man, for size reference

[gloomy hazel]

I actually had counted the amount of pixels for an NPC before starting the sprite of my mech

I was thinking that the mech would be like 2.5x or 3x his size

I'll make a suggestion for this mech (again), but do you think Terraria needs combat focused mounts? Like 100% made for combat. Like the power armors from Fallout

[hollow shell]

Sure I guess

Mounts are used almost exclusively for movement at the moment

[gloomy hazel]

that's what I usually think of. The Astral jelly is kind of an exception, though

[worthy fiber]

The only combat-based mounts I can recall are the Basilisk and the Scutlix thing

[gloomy hazel]

yeah, but they're kind of meh

the basilisk at least is fun

[worthy fiber]

But the basilisk is kinda useless due to the damage you take using it, and the scutlix isn't boosted by summon damage

[radiant meadow]

angry dog is basically phm basilisk

[proven tide]

tbh a couple of mounts are just counterparts to vanilla

brimrose is PML UFO

[queen sail]

I mean

Most modded things are just repatented vanilla stuff

[proven tide]

that's a lot of stats

[gloomy hazel]

yeah, I know

[proven tide]

also who is this hammund robotics

[gloomy hazel]

dammit, I forgot to post the sprite

[proven tide]

anything robotic in this world is draedon's or a mistake

sometimes both

[gloomy hazel]

it's a reference to Hammond Robotics from Titanfall

[worthy fiber]

Stick it in with a url

[proven tide]

Titanfall? In my Calamity mod?
It's more likely than you think.

[hollow shell]

imo, the class-based effects are a bit excessive

[proven tide]

we need a centipede boss

[hollow shell]

Post the 2x2 one

[proven tide]

not worm-type, it's one long hitbox

[gloomy hazel]

wew, that's complicated

[hollow shell]

Thank you

[gloomy hazel]

I mean, it's super late and I'm trying to not make too much noise with the keyboard

[hollow shell]

lol

[queen delta]

Why not fUCKING CLAY

[proven tide]

the raw energy in this suggestion

[gloomy hazel]

so the class stats I gave to the mech are excessive?

[proven tide]

absolutely

OH YEAH

[gloomy hazel]

I don't know, I thought it would be ok for post-ML fights

[proven tide]

I wanna suggest a couple of clentaminator solutions

one to turn dirt into mud and stone into clay, and another to to turn mud into dirt and clay into stone

because if your jungle gets corrupted you're fucked

moist solution and thirsty solution

[queen delta]

Dovah, Have you considered donating to patreon so you can get an item into the game? Or is it just not worth it financially for you?

[proven tide]

I've been meaning to ask — how much do you need to donate? $10+?

[queen delta]

I say this because the chances of getting a suggestion in the game is so low that I don’t bother with item suggestions anymore

$20

[proven tide]

I need my fucking nightmare bee

hmmmm

worth it? mayhaps.

[gloomy hazel]

eh...I'd like to donate, but I have no job, and if I spend money in things that my mother think is worthless, she'd remove my credit card

Anyway, so what are the "excessive" stats that should be tweaked?

[queen delta]

RIP

[full bramble]

I might try to get a job, but no guarantees since my summer plans went to shit
plus if I do, my dad might see what I'll be doing with my money

[hollow shell]

@strong jacinth Be less aggressive 😔

[strong jacinth]

ok fine

[queen delta]

Be less aggressive
”ok fine”

[devout seal]

For it to be able to convert clay, quite a bit of stuff needs to be tweaked

[gloomy hazel]

you guys are telling me that my suggestion has excessive stats, but WHAT ARE the excessive stats?

[queen delta]

Pretty sure clay is immune to all forms of evil anyways

[proven tide]

... the class boosting ones

[queen delta]

Clay cant be converted into a corrupt/hallow version

[proven tide]

yes but the infection is Morally Superior™

[gloomy hazel]

But that would make it a mount like the others...I want a mount that is made to fight

[proven tide]

then just give it a fucking gun

owo

[gloomy hazel]

...

[proven tide]

[queen delta]

Honestly the true melee stat is too op

With some weapons like fetid baghnakhs, holy collider, etc, its basically permanent shield

[gloomy hazel]

that's reduced now

[queen delta]

Also, where and how is it obtained?

[gloomy hazel]

I don't know, I was thinking DoG

[proven tide]

oh ffs

[gloomy hazel]

since it's a non-organic mount

[proven tide]

not another post-moon lord mount

[queen delta]

Hmm, if it’s post DoG, but pre moon events, perhaps the mount should be designed mainly to help with events

[devout seal]

especially not one as slow as 50mph

when the brimrose can out-run the devourer of gods.

[queen delta]

It’s a combat mount, not a movement mount

[proven tide]

devourer has acceleration stat of something like 115%

[devout seal]

brjg, the brimrose can out-fly DoG unless he's in the air phase.
i mean, sure
he eventually overtakes it.
but you can use it to keep ahead of him for longer then the seraph tracers let you

[proven tide]

damn

really gonna do my boi like that

[gloomy hazel]

what?

do what on who?

[devout seal]

I'm being serious.
the brimrose can move faster then the player can, until you get the celestial tracers.
i've checked, it moves horizontally faster then the player's running speed, but not flying speed.

[proven tide]

disgusting

[gloomy hazel]

also ugcendunt, you said that Titanfall in Calamity was "more likely" than I thought. What do you mean?

[proven tide]

it's

it's a meme

[gloomy hazel]

a meme?

I don't see it as such

[proven tide]

Centipedes? In my [REDACTED]?
It's more likely than you think.

can't say that last word, it's bad

[gloomy hazel]

That doesn't tell me what you want to express

[proven tide]

it

it was literally just a pointless meme

[gloomy hazel]

and?

[proven tide]

.... it was pointless

[gloomy hazel]

and what were you expressing? A negative or positive opinion?

[proven tide]

it was pointless

[gloomy hazel]

Then why you post something pointless? Unless it's to try and be funny (which absolutely failed in my case)

[proven tide]

something tells me we're talking past each other here

i'm just gonna leave this as is and head back to getting fucked by arma cultist yes i know commit walk to win but my vehemence does two damage for some stupid reason

[gloomy hazel]

sigh whatever...

[proven tide]

@ashen warren did you just

SELF-STAR

[gloomy hazel]

he did

[ashen warren]

No it was a miss click

[proven tide]

you self-starred and self-alerted

t w i c e

[gloomy hazel]

no, you just removed them both right as you saw our comments

[proven tide]

anyhow

[ashen warren]

Sorry

[proven tide]

What would they be, how would they work, and why are they needed

[ashen warren]

Just to make terraria beter I gess

[gloomy hazel]

they're critters, critters clearly have almost no use except decoration

[proven tide]

what do you mean 'better' and that doesn't really answer any of the above

[ashen warren]

I rilly don’t know

[proven tide]

then you probably shouldn't suggest it

[gloomy hazel]

then remove that suggestion, it's not worth being posted if you don't know what you're suggesting

[ashen warren]

I just want them in idk y

[proven tide]

But what are they and how would they work

[gloomy hazel]

if you don't care about that, then we don't care either, it's pointless to suggest it

[proven tide]

Dovah, that's a bit aggro and probably not helping this evidently... delicate... case

[gloomy hazel]

he said "idk", it means "I dont' care"

[proven tide]

it means i don't know

[gloomy hazel]

Mmh...okay, you get a point

[ashen warren]

Wow I lost faith in us

[gloomy hazel]

give a reason why you want more critters in the mod, if you don't know, then it leads nowhere and it won't help anything

[proven tide]

Dovah, we don't even know if they mean critters

[cold terrace]

hey i have a question

[proven tide]

They could mean bosses or NPCs for all we can tell

[cold terrace]

why?

[gloomy hazel]

^

[proven tide]

we've been around this bush thrice and the answer is 'i don't know'

we're really not getting anywhere with this

[cold terrace]

yet another stellar suggestion from the calamiepic community

[proven tide]

Hey Rover, can you de-star it please?

[gloomy hazel]

I'm going to bed anyway. It's late enough for me to worry about my parents waking up to begin the day (it's 05:30 am for me)

[hollow shell]

@ashen warren If you can add a reasonable "Why" to that suggestion and maybe elaborate on it a bit more (as in, by editing it)
I'll keep the star

[ashen warren]

Ok

[radiant meadow]

there's no need to get on people's case about self-starring

[gloomy hazel]

it's self-promoting to star one-self

[radiant meadow]

there's nothing wrong with that

[gloomy hazel]

Mh...

[proven tide]

yeah there is

it's cheap self-inflation

not against any rules but notably frowned upon

[gloomy hazel]

^

[radiant meadow]

it's not really

[gloomy hazel]

I'm going to bed now

[hollow shell]

oh boy grammar

[radiant meadow]

then I guess I have to change that

[queen sail]

As much as i’d like to self star my own suggestion about making the sunken sea critters and the piggy catchable and be able to put into terrariums

It kinda feels scummy

It’s almost at 90 tbh

At 88 last i checked

[sick bane]

I think it's a good marketing strategy

[cold terrace]

bruh

[sick bane]

If you see other people like something, you're more inclined to like it too

[hollow shell]

Damn it, I don't wanna keep getting on awesomecaleb's case but fuck that's unreadable

[radiant meadow]

There's nothing wrong with starring your own suggestion.
Stop telling others not to do it and focus on actually trying to improve other people's suggestions.

[sick bane]

He removed his star