omega blue is all class
#suggestions-discussion
radiant meadow
it doesn't
queen delta
Yes, but im saying we need more armors like omega blue
civic pond
pretty sure its just +damage
eager grove
You worms...
civic pond
i just want more armors in general
radiant pawn
isnt omega blue for Summoner, while also being for all classes?
radiant pawn
Post ML armors tbh are fine where they are, as they feel like progressing.
Omega Blue (i really dont remember what tier it was i think post DoG) is fine where it is and how it is imo
Adding more armors would make it saturated
civic pond
well having just helmet variants by itself doesn't give a lot of options..
tight gorge
Omega Blue is post-polter
frail mantle
what
eager grove
frail mantle
which infinity gauntlet
agile pilot
Okay supreme calamitas literally shut up ur not funny
tight gorge
I think they're memeing
eager grove
Infnity Gauntlet might be in next update, but it will have credit to this mod.
radiant meadow
it won't
sudden ether
you use the infinity gauntlet on scal it spawns the lorde who kills you both
sudden ether
thanks
agile pilot
Second of all the gauntlet is a completely different mod
Third of all meme suggest bad
Hey can a mod delete scal’s suggestion it’s very presence annoys me lmao
And the reactions are gone anyway so it’s not gonna be doing anything
sudden ether
we must let democracy decide
queen delta
99% sure this guy is just trolling
frail mantle
100% tbh
eager grove
I am not trolling
radiant meadow
If you post in #suggestions-voting , please post actual non-meme suggestions
frail mantle
having a boss as a pfp doesn't automatically make you a troll tho
real parrot
there's a high correlation between the two
sudden ether
it does if it's scal
frail mantle
bruh i had fuckin Crabulon as my pfp and i'm not a troll
eager grove
It's not counting as TROLL.
radiant meadow
please keep discussion to suggestions
eager grove
It makes people lying when you say that.
lost agate
that suggestion, dear lord
queen delta
I don't think he's gonna delete that meme suggestion
real parrot
regardless, your suggestion as just a meme and shouldn't have been posted there, as termi pointed out
bitter topaz
what the hell is this suggestion
dear god
devout seal
There isn't an infinty gauntlet in calamity though.
radiant meadow
please don't fragment
queen delta
now im 100% sure this guy is just fucking around
sudden ether
won't someone think of the
orphans?
real parrot
the guy doesn't think that his suggestion was a meme
lost agate
well it sure is
queen delta
It's nice to have a serious suggestion between all this trolling and memeing
frail mantle
i agree tbh
queen delta
The pillars will be intrusive in the deus fight
Even with zen potion effect, the pillars itself do stuff
brazen bramble
lets finally break the cultist-pillars-moon lord barrier!
tight gorge
Especially the solar worm
tight gorge
I forgot the name of it
frail mantle
also it'd make going to the dungeon less annoying since you won't have to fight the pillars everytime you go there
radiant meadow
crawltipede
sudden ether
cant you just use a skybridge
pillars should spawn far enough below to not spawn mobs during the fight
brazen bramble
but fighting in space is hell
tight gorge
Wait
sudden ether
but its a space worm
real parrot
just being in space is annoying
let alone fighting a boss
tight gorge
Don't bosses disable mob spawning?
real parrot
yes
radiant meadow
only doing Thorium for now
cyan lagoon
i dont understnad
brazen bramble
like how the solar pillar shoots fireballs, vortex pillar spawns vortexes, and stardust pillar literally spawns enemies
radiant meadow
vortex will still spawn alien hornets through portals, stardust pillar can still spawn enmies
ye
tight gorge
hmm
real parrot
nebula has those floating brain things
brazen bramble
oh right vortex also spawns hornets
radiant meadow
but the natural spawns will be disabled while deus is alive
sudden ether
@eager grove points for creativity
queen delta
And solar pillar still shoots out the projectiles
eager grove
Ultraconyx is going to get revived in the next update in the future, maybe?
cyan lagoon
who knows
brazen bramble
i don't think nebula has any self spawning mechanics
radiant meadow
nebula does not
cyan lagoon
regardless I'm not sure if the ultraconyx bosses (going off the version I played) need one
radiant meadow
Thorium bosses are already a handful for the time being
cyan lagoon
a good amount of them are probably too strong for the buffs anyway
obviously ignoring the final post-ml bosses they're very unbalanced
queen sail
@eager grove probably not
Ultraconyx has destroyed balance and the creator pretty much gave up on it
It’s like adding support for Spirit when it’s discontinued
lost agate
@shy vapor isnt that more suited for a separate QoL mod?
brazen bramble
^
cyan lagoon
also it's likely hardcoded stuff again
since this is altering vanilla stuff that really isn't strung up as well in the first place
shy vapor
ur right shucks
gusty geode
Astrum Deus is being moved?
cyan lagoon
#changelogs @gusty geode
hollow shell
@gloomy hazel You don't need to link to it.
But, if you want to, at least put < > on each side of the link so it doesn't have the big embed
gloomy hazel
Mmmh...okay then, I'll edit it.
gloomy hazel
You see? Halved health for health regeneration is a big no-no
civic pond
50% fucking sucks
hollow shell
Thank you
gloomy hazel
I didn't know I had to add the <> to the link. I thought putting the embed would allow people to see the résumé of the accessory without having to check the link.
quick dove
multiclass, mmm delicious
hollow shell
Jesus that's a set bonus
3 or 4 totally separate effects
frail mantle
on a scale of Yes to :ech: how bad is it
quick dove
8
queen delta
Yes
civic pond
🤔
frail mantle
i tried to come up with something that wasn't Xeroc Armor ripoff that also benefits all classes
radiant meadow
use regenator with blood pact for big meme combo 
hollow shell
I feel like it might be a bit overloaded
I've always been more of an advocate for focusing on one unique effect rather than piling on many at once and making it not really focused on anything
The Sponge is my enemy
That's just me though
frail mantle
hmm
queen sail
So
frail mantle
maybe the life steal is a bit too much
civic pond
smh blood pact is a waste of a slot
queen sail
Buffed health regen + enemies can crit you?
queen sail
Just use cheat sheet to give you more smh
terse panther
warm tinsel
Starcore needs a Post-Cultist item in it's crafting
hollow shell
Already being worked on, Ferox
radiant meadow
doesn't that destroy non linearity?
queen sail
Technically you still need to kill prime or brimmy to spawn doppel cal right
Since the eye of desolation needs souls of fright
queen delta
Well, in general, calamity makes the gameplay less linear than vanilla
Like LC being able to be killed early hardmode, etc
queen sail
It’s not completely nonlinear but most of it generally is
queen delta
and plont killed pre mechs
queen sail
Also i wonder if the masorev twins bug is ever gonna be addressed 
You have to fight them in expert if you’re doing masomode since enabling rev makes the fight pretty much impossible
Retinazer spins too fast when he does his phantasmal deathray
hollow shell
RoD
queen sail
Rover have you seen how fast retinazer spins
hollow shell
No but I am curious
hollow shell
Ah.
queen sail
Spinny boye
queen delta
The fact that the laser goes thru blocks is just plain insane
ashen warren
can you get damaged by the laser?
ashen warren
a harmless laser in terraria 
civic pond
cyan lagoon
cyan lagoon
i think he meant frigid
dusty stirrup
It's completely possible, especially when using water movement gear
civic pond
cthulu's dash made that thing really easy to beat
honestly its only hard to kill in HM
e.e
civic pond
cryogen is doable with amidias' trident ffs
radiant meadow
statigel might even considered better than mollusk armor for superior mobility (double jump/increased jump height vs lowered mvt speed)
delicate raft
Golden Gun isn't a classless weapon already?
zenith hazel
it's already classless tho
ashen warren
golden gun was always classless lmao
gloomy hazel
Yes, it is classless
icy cove
Oh must be playing with an older version
delicate raft
No
ashen warren
my god you need to update
ashen warren
im checking wiki
delicate raft
hmm
icy cove
Ill delete it then
radiant meadow
no it wasn't
dusty stirrup
It wasn't changed
icy cove
Huh
delicate raft
icy cove
It litterally says *3 ranged damage
icy cove
Maybe mod conflict i dunno
zenith hazel
probably the work of a different mod?
ashen warren
send pic
delicate raft
Yes, it has to be another mod
ashen warren
^
gloomy hazel
Yeah, it's classless since it exists
icy cove
Yup it is
ashen warren
terse sundial
sounds like the thorium stat boosting ring to me
icy cove
It wasn't, and i dont have any other content mods besides calamity
radiant meadow
maybe star fish could be an astral fishing drop
ashen warren
i would've made that a seperate suggestion tbh
radiant meadow
you could say caught at night or caught in the Astral biome
ashen warren
i'll go ahead and do that actually
ashen warren
queen delta
Unless starfish has another function besides being recipe for god slayer inferno
ashen warren
actually, i could make that a thing
radiant meadow
keep them in the same suggestion if it's only an ingredient
you could make a doc of star fish related things if needed
radiant meadow
@mortal oracle the rogue expansion will add more rogue weapons
also, lionfish is good against slime god
and there's plenty of rogue weapons rn to help with other bosses
queen delta
and raiding abyss isnt that hard anyways
i have a vid that explains my strat behind abyss looting
mortal oracle
OwO rogue expansion?
terse sundial
soon™
queen delta
nah rogue doesnt need expansion
mortal oracle
oh no
queen delta
its got enough weapons iirc
mortal oracle
yes it does
queen delta
melee needs an expansion tho
mortal oracle
for pre-hardmode at least
radiant meadow
several rogue weapons will be removed in the rogue expansion
mortal oracle
plz not the crystaline
queen delta
Rogue variants of weapons like empyrean knives, etc?
radiant meadow
they will die
queen delta
That's weird
queen delta
Melee has enough weapons so to kill rogue variants wouldnt make sense
radiant meadow
at least, that's what I've been told was the plan
ashen warren
iirc weapons that have rogue and melee variants will only belong to either class
like the seashell boomerang
radiant meadow
new rogue weapons will fill the gaps
mortal oracle
JUST NOT THE CHAIN OF CELESTUS
ashen warren
radiant meadow
celestus recipe will probably change to reflect these changes
radiant meadow
that'll be a decision for Fab when the time comes
and the time is not now
queen delta
I doubt crystalline and its upgrades will be touched since its already exclusively rogue and looks more rogue than melee
ashen warren
it might be another mod but the wizard does sell the truffle worm after being defeated
probably thorium or imksushi, idk
radiant meadow
@mystic nacelle the truffle worm is sold by the seaking/amidias
ashen warren
i forgot he existed
radiant meadow
no need for another npc to sell it
I'mma just delete that suggestion since it's already in the game.
mystic nacelle
alright thanks for the heads up
didnt notice it
pretty much ignored his existence during hard mode
ashen warren
document's coming up for that suggestion
radiant meadow
@dry vessel that's not going to happen especially with 2 pre moon lord bosses already being tied to the biome
dry vessel
oh cool
queen sail
Why would you want to move it though
dry vessel
it would be like a harder hallow
ashen warren
just buff the hallow
queen sail
That’s
dry vessel
yeah i guess
dry vessel
i was thinking about how they are moving the astrum deus and though it would fit
as if killing the deus caused the meteor
radiant meadow
killing deus doesn't cause a meteor though
queen sail
AD ingame is a bunch of worms given power through cosmic god feces
Tbh
Also it’d lock the miracle fruit behind moon lord
dry vessel
ok ok
queen delta
hallow is already buffed post ML tho
queen sail
Also they’d probably need to change astral bars in the miracle fruit recipe to aureus cells
Which is
Weird now that i think about it
Actually, nvm, somehow metal bars make a fucking fruit
queen sail
No
digital sparrow
):
queen sail
icy kelp
ashen warren
that's what i said
zenith hazel
auric apple exists, it's called draconic elixir
dusty stirrup
@dry vessel That'd be way too late for it to spawn lol
arctic tapir
@smoky wagon uhhh..you know aureus drops fragments post ml right
smoky wagon
yes im saying make it post deus
so you can farm them in the tier where they make good weapons
ashen warren
whew boi, buffed scal 
formal prism
@smoky wagon So you want Deus (in the upcoming patch) to be the new trigger for the celestial fragments to drop from astral bosses?
I like that suggestion.
The only reasons one would farm the fragments Post-Moon Lord is to create more galactical singularities, and to make more sigils.
queen delta
were you in rev or deathmode by any chance?
ashen warren
hard enough as it is
queen delta
@civic laurel
zenith hazel
cancelling life bonuses in auric tesla... hello...?
mp is meme in itself already, scal getting buffed would only make it worse
formal prism
Boss Rush is a decent challenge if SCal is too easy.
Personally, the... stories of Tmodloader Multiplayer have got to the point where i just see it as a joke.
queen sail
Cancelling auric life bonuses during scal is an equivalent of resetting the adrenaline timer during scal
All your hard work taken away for one fight
Yeah no
formal prism
Something you'd do with your friends while under a very very responsible use of alcohol.
queen sail
Also multiplayer is a big meme
formal prism
^
formal prism
more bugs than Bethesda?
I'm interested in what people think of Guwahavel's proposal, to make the post-cultist version of Deus(yet to be patched) to be the trigger for lunar fragments to drop from the astral bosses.
civic laurel
We were on revengeance
and it was a joke when i summoned it
yet we still did it, and first try
arctic tapir
Balancing around multiplayer is dumb
Calamity is practically intended to be a single player mod at this point
formal prism
You're also playing on multiplayer? the answer to that question is also the answer to whether or not you should take the session seriously.
zenith hazel
mp shouldn't really matter when it comes to discussion most of the time due to how broken it is
ashen warren
What about letting Scal disable/"corrupt" adrenaline and rage, so you cant use them, that would be more challenging in deathmode maybe
gusty geode
Classic final/superboss trope: cutting you off from what you rely on most
vivid flicker
Ha, you thought I relied on those? I suck too much to rely on them!
But really thats a cool idea maybe...
ashen warren
Idk i feel like adrenalin and rage sometimes makes it too easy
civic laurel
it wasn the rage and adrenaline tho
ashen warren
Activate rage/adrenaline, basically skip a phase
tired haven
Scal already disables all adrenaline upgrades
Besides, I believe the impact of rippers on her is far lower than other bosses because you will constantly bump in subphase borders unless if you have bad original dps
arctic wren
for the shop thing
maybe make it a config option
I can see why some would dislike it
but personally, the idea of getting rid of it...
elder mist
Unpopular opinion is correct; Most people hate having to spend time to get good reforges especially when they get royally screwed over by RNG.
Besides, what alternatives to getting money do you have in mind?
Wasting more time getting materials for the boss summons so you can just kill desert scourge again?
dusky mason
Yeah I can understand either side of the argument. The thing is if it's there it's hard not to use it. I agree with chipbeam, possibly make it a config option. I would quite appreciate that.
dusky mason
If you're playing multiplayer and want to have it so people don't use cheesy strats to get good reforges?
rustic ember
dusky mason
Yeah you're right there, but earlier bosses are super easy to kill and offer bucketloads of money in expert/revengeance/death
Just kinda personal preference tbh. I guess it doesn't matter a whole lot but what harm does a config option do.
I think a fair way of grinding is later in the game when you start getting non-consumable boss summons for actually difficult bosses, so then you have to at least put some effort into it.
mental path
it also blocks some things from other mods from being sold
and I'd rather use fargo's mod for buying summons tbh
radiant meadow
@still cliff you already posted that yesterday. reposts aren't allowed in less than a week
still cliff
zenith hazel
is that a suggestion or...
tired haven
Looks like missed channel
distant gyro
wait what does that mean, is that a comment to the previous suggestion? @candid magnet
candid magnet
Yes
zenith hazel
so shouldn't that be in #suggestions-discussion instead?
distant gyro
then it's not supposed to be there then?
autumn basin
naughty >:(
radiant meadow
#suggestions-voting is only for suggestions
candid magnet
Probably but I didn't realize soz
radiant meadow
respond to suggestions in this channel
candid magnet
I know
spice cedar
@dusky mason you could just not buy them
zenith hazel
is this just for cosmetic purposes?
bitter topaz
@worn salmon and waht would be the point of that, exactly?
worn salmon
so its harder to cheese the stardust pillar by repeatedly killing the star cell and its clones
@bitter topaz
cinder sorrel
zerg potion.
worn salmon
i think imma delete my idea after that^
cinder sorrel
aha
worn salmon
reality is often disappointing
eager palm
cinder sorrel
@worn salmon is the meteorite really not enough?
cinder sorrel
not harder to get, the meteorite is still there, just random ore in the underground
tired haven
What purpose will this serve? Ore from single meteor is more than enough for the rest of the game and is easier to get 99% of the time
worn salmon
imma stay away from suggestions for a while
civic pond
i totally agree with an astral fish
wooden leaf
astral cannon nerf?
its on par with tower tier weapons with the same gear
dps test on dummy
queen sail
A pet like...?
radiant meadow
@sweet herald no death mode exclusive items
radiant meadow
also, chibii devourer pet exists already?
sweet herald
well i mean a pet with a effect
radiant meadow
the pet is Terry's dedicated item so it isn't going to change
queen sail
Also nonspecific suggestions aren’t really going to be supported
radiant meadow
@sterile moon the handheld tank is a dedicated item so the dedicatee may not have wanted the extra attack
sterile moon
radiant meadow
@last star lore items should drop for everyone in multiplayer
since the latest update anyways
last star
Weird, i may have to double check this but either way there should be a second way of obtaining them due to accidental deletion etc
@radiant meadow
radiant meadow
reword your suggestion to fit that view
last star
Done
eager grove
Adding boss summon for Giant Calm would be great idea.
frail mantle
a boss summon for the Giant Clam has already been suggested
terse sundial
it has yes
radiant meadow
it has?
frail mantle
yea
radiant meadow
yes it has
frail mantle
i know cause i was the one suggesting it
radiant meadow
ashen warren
Giant clam is a mini boss
hollow shell
@inner geyser Include a "why" in your suggestion
@eager grove Same here, for both
(that dialogue could be more creative...)
frail mantle
doesn't she already have a line for when you try to butcher her tho
terse sundial
no iirc
frail mantle
or, at least if you somehow do manage to butcher her
radiant meadow
go to hell plays when you kill her too fast or something
ashen warren
how Scal can be butchered?
radiant meadow
@gloomy hazel drill mount can't be crafted. the shadow dragon is crafted.
frail mantle
for example with the dark magic that is Quicksilvur's anti-anti-butcher mod
i think he means the DCU
radiant meadow
oh
radiant meadow
but ye, gaze of crythamyr (shadow dragon) can be crafted
hollow shell
Should prolly use its full name then, Dovah
gloomy hazel
I forgot...is it the Containment Drill mount?
hollow shell
Drill Containment Unit
gloomy hazel
Drill containment Unit, got it
Also, I didn't knew there was a dragon as a mount, and that could be crafted
gloomy hazel
Mmh...I haven't seen the whole changelog of the mod.
tropic yoke
Egg
gloomy hazel
This is not the place to randomly post
keen palm
Scouter
Pre-Hardmode Upgrade to the Night Vision Helmet
Recipe: Night Vision Helmet, Glowsticks, Shine Potion, and 3 Night Owl Potions, Wire
When placed in your inventory, you will receive a massively amplified Night Owl potion effect. You will also emit light equivalent to a shine potion.
Why?: Sometimes it's nice not having to worry about placing torches every few blocks, as well as bringing a shine potion everywhere you go. It would also help anyone recording their gameplay, so the audience can see what is going on.
worn salmon
wrong channel
radiant meadow
it's fine
terse sundial
they can suggest their suggestions here
radiant meadow
people are allowed to post here first for feedback
terse sundial
^
radiant meadow
It's literally pinned in this channel, twice
terse sundial
keen palm
Anyways, does it look decent enough for an actual suggestion?
worn salmon
i like it
terse sundial
I think it looks fine
worn salmon
torches are gay so its ok
radiant meadow
@eager grove please edit your suggestion rather than making a new post
terse sundial
that was strange yeah
spark flax
That 'profaned ghost' suggestion sure is
uh
something
I don't know what it is, but it's definitely a something
young fog
Could be crafted with a miner's helmet instead of glowsticks and shine potion?
elder mist
The profaned ghost is my favourite thing ever
lofty blade
star when 
elder mist
Soon™
eager grove
Frames of Mouroanrozan (Profaned and Ghost From)
hearty spade
I'm kind of unsettled
delicate raft
I mean, you don't need to show that, considering everything in Terraria is just pixelated
eager grove
It will be pixelated soon
eager grove
It will be mini images.
radiant meadow
there's no need to spam the chat with several big images
frank stratus
it will be mini images yeah but at the moment its 5 giant images
i get that its an animation but uh
they all look pretty similar
radiant meadow
we already can see the one posted in #suggestions-voting
eager grove
Will someone make 5 of giant images look mini, pixelated?
radiant meadow
there's no need
eager palm
what even is going on here
frail mantle
chaos
hearty spade
Profaned of Ghost
worn salmon
profaned spook
hearty spade
(btw what the hecc does post-LC mean)
terse sundial
post Lunatic Cultist
queen delta
I was making a sunken sea base and wanted to add a bathroom, but was disappointed by the lack of toilets
terse sundial
great suggestion yat
full bramble
sink shit in sea
hearty spade
Yeah but it is dropped by Providence 🤔
queen delta
its a funny suggestion but am also serious about it
frank stratus
sink shit in sea
terse sundial
then it should say post-moon lord lole
frank stratus
that is a good point
radiant meadow
cactus toilet
patent oar
cactus chairs are bad enough
queen delta
why dont you take a seat? dont mind the thorns
cinder sorrel
lead toilet outside and it's freezing
patent oar
ice toilet
cinder sorrel
there are toilets like that irl
ashen warren
what about iradiated toliets?
patent oar
hmmm
cinder sorrel
you sit on them and rot
patent oar
it doesnt have a flush it just rots things
cinder sorrel
holy shit auric furniture would be fancy af
frank stratus
dev furniture hahayes
woven cloak
Ok
carmine stream
wait really
void kelp
@queen sail imagine having a sea minnow fishtank full of schooling sea minnows...
queen sail
radiant meadow
queen delta
owo whats this
ashen warren
Perfect
blissful heart
The blood pact is fine
@carmine stream
What does everyone think of my suggestion?
ashen warren
what are piggies?
ashen warren
huh ok
blissful heart
It's a random "critter" spawn that has a thousand health and drops about 15 gold on death
Nerf that
Make it 5 gold or something
ashen warren
that makes sense and yeah i would nerf it a bit too
radiant meadow
it drops 10 gold
tired parcel
Phantoplasm is annoying to farm
proven tide
@fallow bough I think that's already been suggested a load
fallow bough
oh well i just got it and thought hey this might be a good idea
tulip parcel
So
Does anyone else think the proficiency accessories would be better sold by the merchant rather than the goblin tinker
hollow shell
Nah, I think it's fine
Goblin Tinkerer's shop is always pretty bare, but a lot of mods add stuff to the Merchant's inventory
the items are techy as well, they fit better with the tinkerer
queen sail
Can confirm about mods overstuffing the merchant’s inventory
I have enough mods that do so that the merchant pretty much has no sell space by the time hardmode hits
People already use ❕ for that
And the mods don’t like it being used for that purpose
final nymph
There's a mod which ensures that the vendors always have space for the stuff
hollow shell
@ashen warren Do you mean the debuff?
ashen warren
Ye
hollow shell
That's Cursed Inferno
ashen warren
Ah
Either way, it'd keep it in line and make it a viable option
Rather then just let Bloody Edge be the obvious better choice
hollow shell
yeah
You should edit it to say "Cursed Inferno debuff" instead of "Cursed Flames"
cuz at first I thought you were suggesting a recipe change
ashen warren
Done and done
hollow shell
thank you
ashen warren
I mean yeah but
queen sail
I honestly don’t know what the vanilla devs were thinking in making an equivalent to cursed flames
ashen warren
But like flask of ichor exists
Still, it needs a little buff, plus the whole Cursed Inferno thing
yeah that too
queen sail
I agree with the suggestion but
That’s not really gonna help much when the debuffs suffer from vanilla balance issues
ashen warren
Did I just say "the whole cursed inferno thing" like that wasn't the entire suggestion
queen sail
Nah
ashen warren
Whether it helps or not, Fab has made every other weapon more of a "equivalent" to one another then they were in vanilla
why not Night's Edge?
queen sail
Terra blade got locked behind plantera again like 1.2 right
hollow shell
Yeah, needs Living Shards
arctic wren
honestly
I think it'd be cool if night's edge required purified gel but is buffed / given a projectile
give melee another option for WoF and make night's edge less... bad for bosses
hollow shell
@ashen warren That's a bit much for just Cursed Inferno immunity
Honestly you could just suggest that the accessory makes you immune to it with no negative side effects and I think people would be okay with it
Taking up an accessory slot is cost enough
hearty spade
And I don't see how CI would be "quite annoying"
ashen warren
i talk from experience
hearty spade
There are three enemies in Vanilla that give the debuff
And one of them is a mech boss.
ashen warren
The only thing thats annoying is Brimstone flames and it has Abaddon
hearty spade
^
hearty spade
The other two are just enemies you find in underground corruption and underground corruption desert
placid moth
Doesn't Asgard Valor do all that already
hollow shell
Nah
ashen warren
it does?
hearty spade
So it being locked post mechs really makes no sense
Neither does the cooldown stuff
ashen warren
for twins farming?
Suggest something that is balanced and everyone agrees on rather than suggesting from experience
it should work at a cost i think
Ok
hollow shell
Eh suggesting from experience is fair enough, imo
queen sail
Everyone ain’t gonna have the same experience
ashen warren
i cant beleive people reacted on that THAT fast
placid moth
Yeah, it's like that here.
hollow shell
I just say remove the cooldown stuff and revoking other immunities and you're fine
ashen warren
revoking??
hollow shell
Just make it another Blindfold or Pocket Mirror type item
hearty spade
And I suggest making it early-HM because post-Mechs it would be pretty useless
ashen warren
happy?
hearty spade
It's alright
hollow shell
Yeah that's fine
ashen warren
one more thing
hearty spade
Dude
hollow shell
Hm
ashen warren
?
hearty spade
An item that just gives a single DoT immunity could never be op
ashen warren
DoT?
hearty spade
Damage over Time
hollow shell
If it takes up an accessory slot and has no upgrades then I'd say it's balanced
If Cursed Inferno is giving you so much trouble that you wanna sacrifice a slot for it, then equip the item
ashen warren
Ok thanks for criticizing me XD
queen sail
Have it be a part of the new and improved Ankh Charm recipe
hollow shell
heh no problem
queen sail
hearty spade
Yeah it could be useful for Twins I guess but that's it, that's why I say just making it pre-mechs
ashen warren
@queen sail i guess
ashen warren
Though i wish there were more pre hardmode rogue armor and weapons
hollow shell
Those're coming, don't worry
hearty spade
Rogue is getting an update in the near future
And a suggestion like that would be vague
Feel free to suggest a specific armor or weapon tho
hollow shell
Yeah if you have anything specific in mind, those suggestions are always welcome
queen sail
I really feel like there should be a temporary rule to the Suggestion don’ts list regarding adding more rogue items
ashen warren
Thanks guys
queen sail
Unless it’s extremely specific
ashen warren
Im new to calamity discord if you havent already noticed
queen sail
Since there’s literally an update (one of the next ones, in fact) that’s gonna address this
hollow shell
Doesn't even need to be extreme
as long as it isn't just "Add more rogue items" then it's good
hearty spade
Yeah don't worry
hollow shell
And yeah you're all good, Asher
zenith hazel
yeah but not many people read the list anyway
queen sail
Haven’t seen any “Yharim’s Army” suggestions recently though
ashen warren
Yharim's army?
hearty spade
cough cough nerfing Solstice Claymore cough cough
ashen warren
like old ones army?
zenith hazel
some just straight up suggest for the sake of suggesting without reading stuff first
queen sail
Like I said
Suggestions made for the hell of it have a 100% chance of not getting in
zenith hazel
and some are so god damn subjective
ashen warren
then one of you guys put it in the suggestions channel (because as most people know, making me do that is worse that fighting calamitas with a copper bow)
frail mantle
suggestions made for the hell of it have a 0% chance of getting in, and all other suggestions have a roughly 1% chance of getting in
queen sail
@frail mantle daily reminder that supreme mana potion was 0 effort and still got in
Now we wait for omega mana
frail mantle
zenith hazel
that's gonna be so chaotic considering how much of a meme mp is
ashen warren
^
zenith hazel
desyncs will probably be abundant
ashen warren
Especially for potatoes
queen sail
I’m pretty sure the entirety of the programmers in all mods that exist in terraria will say that mp coding is even worse than regular vanilla code
frail mantle
i'm pretty sure that most programmers will say that coding MP is worse than coding the Mechworm
queen sail
Dan worked hard to ensure SoA 1.1 had no mo issues by testing multiplayer consistently
Even then issues still pop up here and there
frosty kindle
@ashen warren I can understand your liking for large terraria servers, but i cannot say the same could work wonders with modded servers. hosting a large-scale server for a mod is not a good idea, with how unstable MP is, the extensive server administration work that will have to be done, and to keep everything in check. The server will also be hard to initially set up in the first place
As for "get together and progress in the mod", it'd be better just asking for someone to join a playthrough that you have in #multiplayer-looking-to-play
this would be easier to do if it weren't for vanilla terraria's terrible code being copy-pasted into TML
frosty kindle
well, you ask in #multiplayer-looking-to-play and someone can tag along
ashen warren
ok how does that work??
frosty kindle
that channel exists for a reason
ashen warren
im a noob in discord
queen sail
It’s nit that hard really
frosty kindle
well, its simple. You list down your mods you have enabled, and then type them into your message. Also type in your steam username (for friend requests) so that people can join your world
Make sure to host via steam and enable friends joining
ashen warren
so theres nothing i can do that uses the I.P?
frosty kindle
you can use IP, but people mainly use steam
ashen warren
cuz ONE of my friends (But he's 20 mins away from my home) have terraria in GOG version
frosty kindle
in #multiplayer-looking-to-play channel, check the pinned message for a guide/format as to show how you can make your MP hookup post
ashen warren
thanks
@frosty kindle so is there a way to install terraria on steam with a gog installer?
mental path
The game is like 10$
mental path
...and he doesnt have 10$?
queen sail
Rob a bank lmao
frosty kindle
for as long as you have a stable connection, it should be fine.
queen sail
What are they gonna do, jail you?
ashen warren
my internet is above average
frosty kindle
just host with any method that doesn't involve steam.
ashen warren
ok
so um
if i select a new player and world and select host & play , i get the ip
so then i have to put the ip in #multiplayer-looking-to-play ??
ashen warren
minimod?
queen sail
Doesn’t this belong in #multiplayer-looking-to-play or smth
ashen warren
ykw?
queen sail
@ashen warren act like a mod without having proper authority
ashen warren
wow
queen sail
near crown
I mean ravagers pillars should do something like that
queen sail
Still
queen sail
That’s basically terrycode
If you wanna have them spin and yeet, the devs are gonna have to work with terry
near crown
No i mean keep the patterns as they are but dont have the pillars sink through the floor
queen sail
Then why did you include the gif
near crown
That actually makes it real hard in terms of immersion
queen sail
Just say “Have the pillars break upon contact with blocks”
Also that pillar ain’t colliding with blocks or anything lmao
near crown
I included it because the explosion is really an impressive effect - a gif is worth a thousand words even if it's not exactly what i wanted
near crown
No, it's what i want
near crown
Imagine if the ravager pillars did that on impact with a block but while retaining the rest of their behavior
I only want the explosion lmao
queen sail
When all you’re asking for is to just have them break on the ground
near crown
But with the effect!
queen sail
Also the explosion really isn’t needed i’m ngl
near crown
If they only break then thats not impressive
queen sail
The explosion in the gif is there because it explodes into damaging pillar fragments after
Hence why the explosion is big
spark flax
Honestly revamping the pillars do seem nice
They feel really floaty in an unsatisfactory way
Just kind of sloooowly moving through the air with no amplifying downward velocity
Which feels both weird in an in-universe way and annoying in a gameplay way
devout seal
The pillars are pillars of stone, they're like..
they're meant to be crags, thrown up by ravager jumping and crashing back down, forcing the terrain around it to go up, like a crater.
but, it just kinda..
lobbing them at you is a bit boring, honestly.
pliant bone
Honestly, Ravager can be insanely cheesable if the pillars gets destroyed on contact with a block or even worse, platforms
Do note that Ravager cant drop down on platforms
final nymph
Dude the cross necklace is friggin easy to get
You just have to spend some time looking for one
Like 2 minutes
zenith hazel
still an issue about RNG
cinder sorrel
you can get it randomly when you're looking for essences or you will be in pain looking for mimics for 2 hours (my situation)
the craft shouldn't be too cheap though
radiant meadow
@near crown it's been discussed before. There won't be any sort of dislike reaction in suggestions
worn salmon
@vale scaffold wouldnt that flood the crags, and then prevents you from fighting the brinstone elemental?
vale scaffold
Good point!
ashen warren
i would move thr crags to the jungle side
vale scaffold
maybe this can be prevented by limiting the underworld abyss to half of the underworld (since it would be too long with 8000 blocks width anyways)
and ensuring that it spawns on the opposite side of the abyss
radiant meadow
the crags are always on the left
the abyss can be on either the left or the right
sudden quail
Make it so Crags aren't always on the left, and are always on the Jungle side?
ashen warren
would'nt make sense for it to be separate
sudden quail
Why are they on the left anyway
worn salmon
maybe make it opposite to the abyss
radiant meadow
also, making water evaporate in the underworld might be hardcoded vanilla
worn salmon
kinda like jungle to ice
i think it is
or if the abyss is triggered
maybe that would allow you to fight the elemental anywhere in Hell
worn salmon
the evaporation could be solved by having blocks that constantly produce water
vale scaffold
the missing charred ore and brimstone crag can be mitigated by creating for example a Charred Slime
worn salmon
charred slime comeback
vale scaffold
oh there was a charred slime? 
ashen warren
i like your suggest
worn salmon
yes
worn salmon
charred
@vale scaffold and uh, how would the abyss stop generating at the middle of the underworld?
ashen warren
ooh
vale scaffold
I pointed this out in the notes; from what I observe it seems like complicated world generation after the initial world generation has never been done
worn salmon
o
vale scaffold
there seems to be only 3? forms of world alterations that happens post initial world generation:
– Hardmode (block replacement with pearl/ebonstones)
– Meteorites
– Random ore vein generation à la Demon Altars being broken
I'm completely unfamiliar with mod creation so I'm guessing a lot of things
I want to at least drop the Underworld Abyss idea before I forgot about it
ashen warren
"an abyss has fallen"
worn salmon
and is triggered by the lower abyss blocks being broken. and the lower blocks could be made of blocks only the crystyl crusher could break, to prevent early creation
"the ocean depths are trembling"
ashen warren
imagine the actually abyss tiliting sideways, destroying anything in its path and landing sideways in the underworld
vale scaffold
it's quite flexible; it's also doable by replacing the bottom of the abyss with a new block that is indestructible until supreme calamitas is defeated
ashen warren
"the ocean depths are cracking"
vale scaffold
just like how sunken sea is not breakable until desert scourge is defeated
vale scaffold
The rule discourages changes after posting so I might have made a mistake by posting it too early
I keep coming up with new ideas for the Underworld Abyss
radiant meadow
that's why you posti n here first
vale scaffold
I take it that 90 star means that the suggestion has enough merit for it to deserve developer/staff attention
not necessarily that exactly 100% of the suggestions have to be implemented
so I'll dump my ideas into the google docs as I think of it
the main idea will be Underworld Abyss regardless
patent oar
i think it would be cool if there was a gradual change to the abyss after each post ML boss
ashen warren
wall of water
frail mantle
90 stars means the suggestion has been sent in to the dev server to be considered
ashen warren
after prov "the ocean depths have been incinerated"
patent oar
so you get different messages on each first kill and then eventually the final one could be like "the abyssal floor collapses..." and then it starts generating the underworld abyss and it finishes by saying "the underworld has been flooded!"
strange patio
Not gonna lie, this abyss idea sounds absolutely amazing! Hope it gets the attention it deserves
patent oar
the only thing i have an issue with is how to get underworld stuff if its all gone
vale scaffold
I expounded on the possible solutions to this in the extended google docs mr oinky
vale scaffold
Another idea to the underworld abyss that I thought of is the fishing spots
expanding on the idea of the wall being hard time limitation to Abyss L6 and L7
small air pockets can be added in the Underworld Abyss, serving as fishing spots
in Abyss L5 it is located near the very bottom of the world, limiting the fishing power
as it reaches L7, it gradually gets put higher to allow higher fishing power (since it has more water blocks beneath it)
since the wall spawns from L6 to L7, these fishing spots are very time limited, and rewards the player with underworld abyss exclusive items
radiant meadow
the amount of suggestions implemented is closer to 1% than 100% ngl
and most of the ones that do are small qol changes
patent oar
well it all depends on possibility, and whether it actually fits in i guess
like you cant say "add (insert large and litterally impossible to code suggestion here)" get 90 stars and have it implemented as it physically cant be implemented
however i think the underworld abyss could work, as long as a safe and non buggy method of generation is found
also mabye if the brimstone crag is submerged the enemies become abyssal forms and it provides a new source of charred ore through them
patent oar
also mabye new worlds could generate a new dungeon in the underworld on the abyss side called a searing temple, which extinguishes and allows entry after the abyssal underworld is formed
otherwise you get the "searing" debuff which nearly instantly melts you
and you get the message "{player} was turned into ash."
split mesa
You said it could be post SC...what kind of content are we thinking of?
frank stratus
wait
that would remove the risk of paying more money
armageddon has that thing where, if you die, you need to get the summon again, which will cost you
patent oar
having armageddon non consumables would mean money farms are ridiculously op
frank stratus
yeah
i get that it would be good for nohits, but for normal playthroughs, not sure about it
frail mantle
yea but in Rev and up you basically get one platinum if you step outside your base
patent oar
mabye if armageddon was lockable on world gen
vale scaffold
the main reason I thought it should be post-sc is because it basically removes the underworld
frank stratus
yeah but there's a reason why you get that much money
vale scaffold
but after giving it more thought, replacing half of the underworld sounds more reasonable, and therefore it doesn't necessarily have to be post-sc
last star
Any opinions on my latest suggestion? Or any reason why this should not be the case?
split mesa
I think it’s balanced as is, if you die, then that’s your fault. You buy another summon.
frank stratus
but...
the shrines ARE supposed to exist on every world
the person you have to blame would be relogic, for making the base worldgen code
split mesa
Yeah you can look at your map with TEdit or something
frank stratus
which allows things to be generated outside of the world bounds
split mesa
That’s how I found all my jungle shrines and got my beloved boomstick
placid moth
^
split mesa
Probably is
last star
One of which is abyss shrine
split mesa
Remember that large worlds have the highest chance due to total area
split mesa
If you don’t have anything naturally generate, creating alternate worlds for farming isn’t illegal
last star
Would be more fun if it was guaranteed on all worlds
I dont see a reason for that not being the case is my main point
frail mantle
i think making them guaranteed to spawn would be a bit difficult
split mesa
Yeah. As long as it’s not a predetermined spot. I think it’s fine, you just gotta know it’s there and not give up looking for it
frail mantle
not sure tho
frank stratus
are you sure? because i'm pretty sure the main factor for not all shrines in the same world is because of the worldgen code
split mesa
Chances are if that change is implemented it won’t be for a while and I’m trying to help you as of right now
pliant bone
To the person suggesting boss summons are to be infinite in supply in Armageddon, that is pretty hecking overpowered.
In terms of nohitting, it doesnt help in a slight bit.
hearty spade
It would be handy if Armageddon was something that you can't undo
But since it isn't it would be simply op
pliant bone
Why make it more op however
hearty spade
Yeah there's really no need due to how Arma works now
pliant bone
Making it infinite also makes it harder to count the attempts done on boss nohits.
warm tinsel
The modified Wall of Flesh (or Abyssal Guardian?) should be coloured in a SCal way tho
I really love the idea of the Abyssal Underworld if it's possible to implement
gloomy barn
Are there any plans on adding more shortswords progression?
warm tinsel
We need to upgrade that guide on the wiki tho
Pre-Boss and Pre-Skeletron are waaaaayyy too big
frank stratus
shortswords progression
warm tinsel
We need midtiers like Pre-BoC and Pre-SG
vale scaffold
oh, I don't know a solution to this, but I wasted several hours killing turtles to get Fabled Tortoise Shell (since it's listed in the wiki)
only to realise after a couple thousand turtle kills later
that it's not in our game because we did not update calamity mod
ashen warren
F
vale scaffold
a proper versioning would be really nice but it's easier said than done
terse sundial
we have a midtier though, we have pre-hive mind/perfs
tulip parcel
Wall of Flesh should be upgraded in the same vein as Astrum Aureus after defeating...
Plantera?
no, after defeating providence, or something after that
nvm
gloomy barn
I've heard s. calamitas is going to be resprited with the human calamitas but, what about making another boss that is the human calamitas, unlocked after defeating s.c? I think the fight is going to be changed with the resprite, so why not make another fight all together?
ashen warren
No boss suggestions allowed
patent oar
if they changed the scal fight to fit with the human sprite they could possibly add the original SCal as legacy bonus stuff
patent oar
there would be no reason to fight it but it could just stay there depending on how much scal changes
last star
@gloomy barn and those upgrades would be what? an example would be apreciated
frail mantle
maybe instead of saying "add something along the lines of this vague concept" say "add this thing that does this thing because of this reason"
ashen warren
Not even specific
distant gyro
I believe Yata had a cosmic shiv suggested as a patron item