suggestions-discussion

[distant gyro]

bruh does this mean a swung flail with glowy orange edges?

[honest isle]

DROP DE ANCHOR

[civic pond]

idk

[honest isle]

Anchorflair?

[civic pond]

i dont want to look like a bootlegged cosmic discharge

[honest isle]

it looks like an anchor at least

[civic pond]

we already have an anchor flail tbh

its literally an anchor

so i'll just put this thing in suggestions and see how it goes

[distant gyro]

you can always draft here first though

[civic pond]

then i'll do that

[smoky wagon]

pre hm clam crusher

[civic pond]

ok

now im tempted to make it post skele

[distant gyro]

oh no it will be shadowed by the almighty amidias trident/fugu though

[civic pond]

exACtlY

Another weapon suggestion
Jetstream
A post hive/perf swung flail.
Crafted using 15 Aerialite 10 meteorite bars and 10 fallen stars sky mill
Reason why? Because there are a low amount of swung flails in the game and there are also none in PRE-HM. This could be a viable weapon for skeletron. Swung flails typically deal a high amount of DPS. To compensate this weapon may have low base damage, no explosions or debuffs.

that should do it

i think..

[radiant meadow]

why is the picture so big?

[civic pond]

yeah uh

[distant gyro]

you should explain it to people what swung flails are though (so people have clear pictures of what they are)

[civic pond]

i should really crop that

[distant gyro]

also cropping bruh

[civic pond]

lol

better

Another weapon suggestion
Jetstream
A post hive/perf swung flail. (Same attack style as solar eruption)
Crafted using 15 Aerialite 10 meteorite bars and 10 fallen stars at a sky mill
Reason why? Because there are a low amount of swung flails in the game and there are also none in PRE-HM. This could be a viable weapon for skeletron. Swung flails typically deal a high amount of DPS. To compensate this weapon may have low base damage, no explosions or debuffs.

ok this looks much bettter

[distant gyro]

that's pretty good

[civic pond]

into suggestions it goes

[ashen warren]

and fugu

[civic pond]

fugu epic

[distant gyro]

:bol: is an epic broh

[ashen warren]

change your suggestion btw lol it's wrong

there's also blue moon

[civic pond]

wait waot

[ashen warren]

oh wait swung flails

[civic pond]

[distant gyro]

he meant a solar eruption-esque weapon

[ashen warren]

fuck nevermind I think I'm retarded

[civic pond]

dont worry

[ashen warren]

[civic pond]

i'll always be more retarded

silly

[distant gyro]

Nam bruhpant'd

[ashen warren]

[radiant meadow]

blue moon/sunfury and fugu aren't even pre skeletron smh

and pretty sure bol sucks for skeletron

[civic pond]

i kinda wanted to make it post skele

but then there's mf amidias trident

[ashen warren]

yeah but the suggestion says whole of prehm,.,.,.,..,.

[civic pond]

which renders everything else useless

wait

what?

whats whole of prehm

[distant gyro]

there are no swung flails (as in solar eruption weapons) in phm though

[radiant meadow]

your non true melee options beyond that for skeletron are basically seashell boomerang, seashine/enchanted sword, and starfury

meteor fist is irrelevant

[civic pond]

blargh

what does meteor fist even do?

[distant gyro]

meteor fist died iirc

[radiant meadow]

oh wait, forgot perfect dark/vein buster exists

[civic pond]

no i mean

i've never even used it

[distant gyro]

meteor fist is basically a throwing wep

[radiant meadow]

also yoyos I guess?

[civic pond]

rip

is it just me or does crushsaw crusher look actually stupid

[radiant meadow]

isn't it crushsaw crasher? it might look less stupid next update

[civic pond]

i would hope so

instead of throwing a glove at your enemies

[smoky wagon]

The projectile is an axe

it is weird

[civic pond]

what is..?

[smoky wagon]

Crushsaw crusher

[civic pond]

oh

i thought it was a claw?

[smoky wagon]

The sprite is

[civic pond]

e

[smoky wagon]

The projectile doesnt match the sprite

[radiant meadow]

you swing the claw to throw axes

[smoky wagon]

also it drops from the metal brother

[civic pond]

ohhh

[smoky wagon]

fix the drops

[civic pond]

its weird that axes bounce

[radiant meadow]

wdym fix the drops?

the one with the fat flamethrower drops the flamethrowers

[void kelp]

imagine how glitchy that worm would be.. it would be amazing

[ashen warren]

ono worm summons.,.,.,..,.,.

[steady cloud]

yea

we need a DOG head mount should i make that?

[ashen warren]

why though

[steady cloud]

cause

[ashen warren]

not a good reason

[steady cloud]

lol

[zenith hazel]

worm summons are hell to code

[steady cloud]

relly?

[zenith hazel]

ofc

[steady cloud]

wut does that mean

[ashen warren]

look at mechworm lole

[terse sundial]

they aren't easy to make

[zenith hazel]

mechworm is buggy

[steady cloud]

oh

[zenith hazel]

that also shows how hard it is to program

[terse sundial]

and are prone to many bugs

[steady cloud]

is it still a good idea tho?

[terse sundial]

no

[steady cloud]

besides the bugs

in general

[zenith hazel]

nah

summoner's already a great class, even during post-scal

[steady cloud]

okay so i'm also making a profaned guardian mount

[ashen warren]

I don't see why but ok

just get ready to be 'd

[radiant meadow]

adult eidolon wyrm isn't meant to have unique drops

it's not even meant to be killed

as well as previous people saying worm summons are hell to code even more than summons are already

[rich wagon]

Mrrp's suggestion has 118 stars but it hasn't been checked

as well as Danger

[marsh gust]

they'll get sent eventually dw

[rich wagon]

ok

[smoky wagon]

@radiant meadow catastrophe should drop brimstone flameblaster since it shoots the bouncing fireballs, and cataclysm should drop the crushsaw crusher since the weapon is visually similar to its design

[keen oxide]

there should be a station that gives a rogue boost, like the sharpening/ammobox/crystaball/bewitchtable. maybe increase the velocity, or how much time a proyectile takes before starting to fall?

[queen sail]

Probably already created/planned for the rogue update

[proven tide]

@marble hare A) low-effort B) what is that C) why D) prolly not for some other reason

so uhh a bit of revision

[queen sail]

What even is a pokecord bot

And why does the mod need it

[proven tide]

It's a mod/server suggestion channel, actually

[marble hare]

It's just to have some fun in discord bro.

I mean like , catching Pokemon's in free time on discord.

[radiant meadow]

it won't be getting in

if you want to play with pokecord, go to another Discord

[bitter topaz]

^
we're not getting any bots we don't need too

[placid moth]

Cool.

[civic pond]

is there any particular reason commonly suggested things don't get in?

or are most of them just impossible to do

[quiet abyss]

The "suggestions don't" document pinned in here has a few examples of suggestions that's been suggested a lot in the past. ya can try checking that out

[civic pond]

i guess royal gel and modded slimes is going on that list then

crap

[radiant meadow]

no it's not

it's already on the bug document

[civic pond]

o k

[queen sail]

Common suggestions don’t usually get picked because it’s basically beating a dead horse

The staff already know about said suggestions and may consider it if itms worth the mod’s time

[ashen warren]

lmao summons are the worst in mods imo cause they are so hard to code compared to other shit

[civic pond]

its an accessory tho

🤔

[queen delta]

Summon AI is hard to code

So accessory doesnt make a difference if it still summons something new

[civic pond]

it makes bumblebirb more worth while for summoners

[arctic tapir]

it isnt summoning anything

@queen delta

yall aint even reading it

[cyan lagoon]

i think he might be referring to the eidolon wyrm summon

[arctic tapir]

oh, probably

[cyan lagoon]

but yeah i don't see what the problem is

the "its too hard to code" criticism is moot

[void kelp]

would buffs to proficiency be overpowered?

[civic pond]

tbh summoner already grants extra slots

[void kelp]

especially considering how much more the summoner proficiency scales

bam bam here u go

[hearty yew]

@void kelp mage proficiency is a pretty significant boost

the reason summoner proficiency is too strong is precisely because summoner sucks and needs the help

i agree ranged proficiency is too weak

melee, idk

[tired haven]

Ranged doesn't need even more boost
(though ammo preservation doesn't boost him either, just makes things convenient, so I'm in)

Summoner sucks hard, yes

[void kelp]

oooh. interesting perspective

[gloomy hazel]

I'm definitively gonna have to agree with the proficiency when you compare summoner proficiency and the other ones. Summoner proficiency is even one of the quickest to grind up and requires little effort to do so. I've been trying to build up Mage and Ranged proficiency to lvl 15 and only managed to grind them to lvl 11-12 while on Summon I'm almost lvl 15.

[hollow shell]

@worn salmon "him" as in the main worm or all of them?

[worn salmon]

@hollow shell the ones other than him

daddy deus is proly better off being the fastest to make him stand out more

[hollow shell]

Alright
You should specify that in the suggestion

[worn salmon]

done

[hollow shell]

(still says "him" in the second half)

[worn salmon]

@hollow shell good now?

[hollow shell]

Yeah that's good
Thank you

[worn salmon]

yw

[hollow shell]

@kindred scaffold Put your arena further away

[kindred scaffold]

lol it is but

when im playing with friends

and they die then i respawn as the only one alive

he just speed of lights me

and takes the npcs with me xd

[hollow shell]

I see

[queen sail]

Smh

Just download Friendly NPCs don’t die

[kindred scaffold]

i was afk sorry for response

late response*

ok ill look into it thanks @queen sail

[queen delta]

because...? @rain estuary

[rain estuary]

I feel as though the summons it creates have a horrible hitbox and can only be destroyed by running into them.

[queen delta]

Actually they get destroyed on contact with planter boxes and blocks

[hollow shell]

You know how they work, right?

They turn into homing suicide bombs when you damage them too much
so you have to avoid hitting them

[rain estuary]

Make the boss not spawn directly on top of the player.

[queen delta]

You do realize it has a moment of invincibility before it damages you, right...?

[rain estuary]

Yes.

[queen delta]

So it's fine then

[rain estuary]

Why does it need so much health though?

[queen delta]

It's not that tanky tho

Easy boss equates to higher health

[rain estuary]

?

[queen delta]

Meanwhile deus is hectic, fast, and always up your ass, so in turn, it's easier/quicker to kill

[rain estuary]

DoG.

He did not need a second phase.

[queen delta]

I think the problem is that you're not experienced enough in these fights

[zenith hazel]

DoG’s phase 1 is way too easy, he needed a phase 2

[queen delta]

First few attempts should be hard, otherwise the boss is a pushover like golem

[rain estuary]

This is my sixth Calamity playthrough, I have plenty of experience.

[hollow shell]

Before we get too tangential
Issac, add the things you think should be nerfed about Aureus to your suggestion and give reasons why

[zenith hazel]

yet why are you saying aureus and DoG need a nerf?

[hollow shell]

Too vague and short atm

[zenith hazel]

you should be nailing both of them down if you’re experienced

[rain estuary]

Well, reduce the defense of DoG's head in phase 2

[zenith hazel]

he has 0 defense tho

for his head and tail i mean

[rain estuary]

A boss should not take 5 minutes just because you can't hit its weak points.

[hollow shell]

Yeah funnily enough his head and tail take 25% increased damage from attacks

no defense or DR

[zenith hazel]

the point of DoG is that you have to hit its weak points

[hollow shell]

Homing projectiles and minions automatically target head and tail anyhow

[zenith hazel]

it’s way too long to have everything have 0 defense

that way, dark spark would murder it in seconds

[rain estuary]

DoG is literally just Void Leviathan from Elements Awoken.

[hollow shell]

Uh ohhh

[warm tinsel]

DoG is fine as he is you guys are mean

[rain estuary]

That's not a joke, they are literally the same exact boss.

[hollow shell]

This is not related to suggestions

Edit your message in #suggestions-voting to be more elaborate please, Issac

[queen delta]

I think void leviathan came out after DoG

When did void leviathan come out?

[hollow shell]

Don't even start that convo because it's offtopic

[rain estuary]

Ok so, this has nothing to do with DoG, but please fix the hitbox on the Leviathan.
There's like a good five block gap of air below her that still counts as her hitbox.

[queen delta]

Well that's the first valid problem so far

[zenith hazel]

she’s gonna get a sprite change eventually that’ll maybe fix it

[rain estuary]

Ah ok

[queen delta]

But like, is your arenas for the bosses you seem to be struggling with any good?

Cuz bad arena = hard to fight

[rain estuary]

I use the classic DoG arena.

The 2-4 platforms across the entire world

[hollow shell]

Well, DoG isn't intended to be a running battle anymore sadly

[queen delta]

Yes it takes more knowledge and skill iirc

[hollow shell]

Long platforms are nice but you should be changing direction more often

[rain estuary]

Buff Crabulon.

[hollow shell]

Bro please

[rain estuary]

We must make it our lord and savior

[hollow shell]

Edit your suggestion before proposing new ones

[smoky wagon]

ok you struggling or wiping a certain boss doesn’t make it need rebalancing

[zenith hazel]

crabulon isn’t that difficult fam

[smoky wagon]

Astrum aureus i was able to 1st try in death mode and it was one of the most fair fights i had done so far

esp compared to astrum deus

[zenith hazel]

just maintain the high ground

[rain estuary]

Just use the shrimpy truffle.

[sour hornet]

Thats way far in the game

[zenith hazel]

personally, i get the aureus being bulky point, but only during post-ml

[smoky wagon]

aureus gets dmg which is a little extreme post ml

[zenith hazel]

its attacks almost 2 hit you most of the time

[rain estuary]

Also, death mode DoG goes more than 100 mph.
I know this because the fastest mount in Thorium goes 104 mph, and DoG is light speed compared to it.
How are you supposed to dodge him?

[smoky wagon]

watch a video

[zenith hazel]

RoD/normality relocator...?

[hollow shell]

DoG gets a speed boost in proportion with your movement speed

[smoky wagon]

use a dash item

[sour hornet]

You don't dodge it

[hollow shell]

If you use a 104mph item, he will outspeed you by going faster than that

[rain estuary]

I had to use the Omega Core to outspeed him.

[hollow shell]

You can't just run from him in one direction and get away from him 100% of the time

[rain estuary]

Omega Core

[zenith hazel]

“you can’t butcher a god”? more like “you can’t outrun a god”

[hollow shell]

That's from a different mod

and thus
irrelevant to Calamity

[rain estuary]

The crits from the Defiled Rune affect things that aren't from Calamity.

[smoky wagon]

so?

[hollow shell]

That's because the crit function is tied to the player, not NPCs

[ashen warren]

I can't butcher a god but I can enable godmode and kill him with endgame items

[rain estuary]

The crits affect fall damage, traps, lava, and thorns.

[hollow shell]

Yep

[rain estuary]

But why though?

[hollow shell]

Because it just modifies whatever incoming damage you take

doesn't matter the source

Though thanks for bringing that up cuz that means its wiki page is slightly inaccurate

[rain estuary]

You're...welcome?

[zenith hazel]

this somehow went from a discussion about nerfing aureus to nerfing DoG to talking about defiled

[rain estuary]

Yeah, I don't know how that happened.

[hollow shell]

Issac has ADD

[rain estuary]

no u

[marsh gust]

isaac, can you not send single line messages in #suggestions-voting and follow the pinned format?

[hollow shell]

That is pretty vague yeah but more importantly it's been suggested before

[rain estuary]

This mod has such great looking furniture, so it sucks that you can't make furniture out of astral stuff.

I mean, you can make furniture out of some weird stone and some prisms.

[civic pond]

[rain estuary]

But space wood, nah.

[civic pond]

astral cactus

[hollow shell]

Sounds good.
Add that explanation to your suggestion, please

via editing

[civic pond]

Sors

[hollow shell]

hi

[civic pond]

hallo

any clue on what the devs are working on atm?

[lost agate]

idk about the devs but testing is

[hollow shell]

New rare items, new Shrine items, and new potions.

and new Patron items

[dusty stirrup]

^

[civic pond]

ok

that is all

thank

[hollow shell]

np

[dusty stirrup]

What's left is listed in #mod-announcements too

[gloomy hazel]

@rain estuary, let me help you make a proper suggestion. In order to make a suggestion that fits in the #suggestions-voting channel, you have to explain what you want and end up with a "why" sentence at the end. That way, people will better understand the reasons behind your suggestion and better support it.
Like this:

"Type of suggestion: Suggestion name

-Suggestion presentation

**Why:**Suggestion reason"

[civic pond]

thats kind of the basis

ish

[lost agate]

the template is pinned

[rain estuary]

ah I see.

I'm new here, sorry

[hollow shell]

Your monolith suggestion is fine
but the Aureus one needs a lot of elaboration

[zenith hazel]

at least yours is understandable unlike some suggestions here

[civic pond]

oh mine is close

[gloomy hazel]

Make sure to read the pins, most people don't look at the pins and tend to not know the required informations

[civic pond]

haha pins

i always forget they exist

[gloomy hazel]

I too had the habit of not looking at pins, but now I know that they exist for a reason

not for nothing at least

it's just that people either forgot, or don't know it

[rain estuary]

I

shall just delete the suggestion about Aureus

[hollow shell]

Ok

[civic pond]

probably for the best

[gloomy hazel]

You know, you can always improve your suggestions by editing them.

[rain estuary]

Dafuq is this emote?

[unique vector]

iirc its from a inside joke

[gloomy hazel]

I don't understand it either, but that doesn't matter

[civic pond]

you just

[rain estuary]

[gloomy hazel]

So, if you want to suggest something, make sure that it's coherent and well constructed.

[rain estuary]

Got it, I'll try harder next time.

[gloomy hazel]

good to hear

[rain estuary]

Who's better, Crabulon or Yharon?

[gloomy hazel]

uh...what?

[ashen warren]

Auric/Exo-tier weapons (especially a gun)

what does this mean

[rain estuary]

Who is the better boss?

[ashen warren]

crabulon

obviously

[gloomy hazel]

Yharon, he's the semi-final boss

[civic pond]

for now

[ashen warren]

wtf

[civic pond]

[zenith hazel]

no, he is the final boss

[gloomy hazel]

yes, for now

[rain estuary]

Crabulon Rave

[zenith hazel]

for now

[frosty vortex]

Crabulon music tho

[civic pond]

yharon not final boss wtf

[zenith hazel]

scal's a superboss, not the final boss

[civic pond]

still a boss

[ashen warren]

scals supposed to be fought as the final boss

[gloomy hazel]

For now Yharon is the semi-final boss

[civic pond]

bruh

[ashen warren]

what are you talking about

[lost agate]

its an optional boss

[ashen warren]

it is?

[gloomy hazel]

optional?

[civic pond]

wh a t

[lost agate]

well byeah

[ashen warren]

wtf

[zenith hazel]

yharon's at the end of the boss progression

[gloomy hazel]

That doesn't make sense

[zenith hazel]

by that logic, he's the final mandatory boss

[civic pond]

er

[lost agate]

why do you think terminus is dropped by yharon and not her?

[rain estuary]

Well, technically, living is optional

According to your logic.

[lost agate]

uh what

[ashen warren]

yeah I mean

[gloomy hazel]

Why is it needed to get Yharon Soul Fragments to craft gears good enough to fight SCal then?

[zenith hazel]

superbosses are meant to be optional

[ashen warren]

I could chose to not live at any time right now

[hollow shell]

The fuck does this convo have to do with anything

[ashen warren]

but you know

I don't

[zenith hazel]

because it's for an optional fight

[rain estuary]

@hollow shell I have no fucking idea.

[lost agate]

yeah true. drop the topic

its going nowhere and its offtopic

[ashen warren]

suggestion: more content added to the mod

[rain estuary]

It went from an argument about whether Crabulon or Yharon is the best boss to an argument about whether or not Yharon is optional.

[lost agate]

and both arguments are offtopic so drop it

[ashen warren]

add a wearable horse mask vanity item

[civic pond]

why

[ashen warren]

so I can wear it

[gloomy hazel]

You mean like in Starbound?

[ashen warren]

no like this image

[lost agate]

Please take this place seriously

this is just flat out memes

[ashen warren]

no this isn't a meme

[lost agate]

it is

[gloomy hazel]

technically, it is a meme

[ashen warren]

are there any other mods that add this

[civic pond]

there aren't even horses in terraria

hol up

[ashen warren]

if so please pm me there names

[gloomy hazel]

Anything that has a minimum of popularity from a joke on the internet is considered a meme

[ashen warren]

how are horse masks a joke

[zenith hazel]

were this to not be a meme, why would you want to add this

[ashen warren]

I told you, so I can wear it and put it on all my characters

it would be awesome

[zenith hazel]

also that horse mask is definitely a meme

[lost agate]

.

[gloomy hazel]

You'd have to give a reason if you want to have it, but I highly doubt the devs of the mod will add it.

[lost agate]

i still think its a meme

[gloomy hazel]

It is a meme of course

[zenith hazel]

it has an entire knowyourmeme page dedicated to it

[lost agate]

and you know what happens with meme suggestions

[ashen warren]

wtf

what is even on there

what is there to talk about

its a horse mask

[lost agate]

you sure are clueless aint you

[ashen warren]

its a fucking mask

I could buy one at the dollar store

what is there to write about

[lost agate]

go look at it yourself

[gloomy hazel]

it's a meme, like trololo is a meme, like omae wa mou shindeiru is a meme

[hollow shell]

You clearly know about it somehow, phamtomguy

because it was a meme

[zenith hazel]

why is this so hard to process

[ashen warren]

I know about it because for the last few years ive been using it on all my account pfps

[zenith hazel]

a quick "horse mask" search on google shows it's a meme

[ashen warren]

I am going to go to tremors discord

[civic pond]

o k

[hollow shell]

I don't think that's a good idea but
you can

[gloomy hazel]

okay, so long!

[zenith hazel]

inb4 he leaves because his suggestion is a meme

[civic pond]

sometimes i really wonder..

[gloomy hazel]

some people can't be reasoned sometimes...

[ashen warren]

wtf tremors discord is dead

ok then

[queen sail]

I mean

Did you expect much

Even the creators hate it after it’s awful update

[distant gyro]

Beware that some bosses still linger around

[marsh gust]

respawns are faster while arma is active tho, it basically respawns you when boss is despawned

[distant gyro]

Respawn is faster when a boss isn't alive iirc

[vestal elbow]

l u i a f k

[queen sail]

Instant respawn

[hollow shell]

@cosmic jungle

[cosmic jungle]

Is it faster?

[distant gyro]

It is faster when a boss isn't alive

[terse sundial]

yes, it's technically faster

[cosmic jungle]

But in the suggestion I meant that a lot faster not just a bit, so like 2-3 seconds so that the boss despawns

[tired haven]

Tbf you said just "faster", not either of 2 variants
And well, currently the speed of respawn depends on boss despawning conditions, but rarely takes more than 3 seconds

[ashen warren]

imagine using blood pact

[lost agate]

@near crown read changelog #24

[near crown]

Whoops

[civic pond]

oh epic gamer moment

[distant gyro]

The arma thing has been suggested before, most likely.

[civic pond]

it was

i think it was yata..

[distant gyro]

It also hit the 90 mark and was sent already

[civic pond]

[civic pond]

oh frick

I did it

[spare nimbus]

my game crashes when i get adrenaline and take damage on the same frame

[queen sail]

#bugs-read-pins

[civic pond]

broh

just get a life form analyzer or something

or hunter potions

[ashen warren]

for the suggest, that's happened to me when i played calamity for first time

[civic pond]

damn

thats like the 5th suggestion about telling someone armageddon is on

[distant gyro]

There's 2 "Armageddon indicator" suggestions very close to each other

[civic pond]

some people just dont scroll..

like broh.

[distant gyro]

you don't even need to scroll to see it though

[civic pond]

also doesn't armageddon only affect bossfights?

[hollow shell]

Won't get bluechecked though because the means of doing it, that is showing 1 HP, hasn't been suggested before

It does

[civic pond]

huh

[ashen warren]

@civic pond armaggedon only affect bosses

[civic pond]

i

i know

[ashen warren]

that's says in the descripction

[distant gyro]

isn't it just a more detailed version of the arma indicator suggestion?

[civic pond]

where's the arma indicator

actually nevermind

i threw mine in the trash

[lost agate]

@ashen warren yeah no, that sounds like a bad idea

Silva buffing would just die

[ivory flax]

what does the silva set do again?

and how is it a buff to it?

[quiet abyss]

I'm more concerned about stuffs like getting a belt dodge but receiving a debuff that inflicts DoT

[radiant meadow]

can't you just read the tooltip?

[quiet abyss]

E.g. Belt dodging a calamitas laser but still getting the brimstone flames debuff

[distant gyro]

"silva buffing dies" probably refer to the 400hp change thing

[ivory flax]

eh ill just look it up

[distant gyro]

where silva invul stops working after reaching x amount of hp (400hp*)

[ivory flax]

i see now

rip

[lost agate]

Or it may not even work at all even without it altix

[hearty spade]

@ashen warren It doesn't work like that tho

RoD damage doesn't kill you for example

[civic pond]

wtf

RoD damage cant kill you?

[distant gyro]

If your hp is low then rod will kill you, if it were to be set to 1 the game will kill you for double rodding

but normally if you have full hp with arma double rodding doesn't kill you

[civic pond]

Screw progression

[ashen warren]

[ivory heart]

My suggestion? I don’t want people just beating Plantera first thing Hardmode, getting an Eidolon Tablet from the Eidolist, and then beating the Moon Lord.

[ashen warren]

[frail mantle]

so basically you're saying "fuck speedrunners"

[civic pond]

I don't want people trying to stop me from killing plantera first thing

[ashen warren]

you'd have to be a no-hitter to-

^

[ivory heart]

The recipe for Portabulb is craftable from the start of Hardmode

[ashen warren]

that

is true

[bitter topaz]

wh
@ivory heart the entire point of both those items existing is to allow you to fight them early

fab dislikes how linear hardmode is and added/changed stuff to counteract that

[distant gyro]

but why though; not all bosses have to be necessary

commit the WoF -> LC -> ML progression life

[ashen warren]

coughhalfthebossesinhardmodecough

[ivory heart]

They just exist so you can fight them again, but the obtainment is order breaking

[bitter topaz]

that's.
that's the entire point of the items

[frail mantle]

that's the point

[civic pond]

oh boy

[distant gyro]

you should have freedom to do whatever order you want, it's Terraria after all

[ivory heart]

ok

[civic pond]

also its a pain to try and find plantera's bulbs sometimes

[frail mantle]

they exist specifically so you don't have to go through Hardmode in a specific order

[ashen warren]

yeet

[civic pond]

Oh

100 stars

👀

[ivory heart]

Where what what where

[ashen warren]

hol up

[civic pond]

y tho

thats kinda random

???

[ashen warren]

Scourge Pheromones
Consumable
"It's time for a family reunion!"

Crafted with: 1 Desert Medallion, 1 Seafood, 5 souls of Fright, Sight, and Might

Changes to both of the bosses:

• Revengeance mode AI in Rev and below, Death mode AI in death mode
• Health is increased to 100,000 (135,000 in Death)
• Being hit by the heads of both bosses inflicts Marked for Death and The Horror, as well as a 10% chance to inflict Armor Crunch (15% in Death)
  ---Note (For Desert Scourge): Both of the smaller worms must be defeated in order to reduce the 99% DR of main worm

Why: It would be fun to be able to fight both AS and DS at the same time, as well as giving the user another challenge during their time in hardmode. I know that some people enjoy fighting the bosses so why not let players fight both of them at the same time? Also, it fits the lore as the Desert Scourge originated from a sea worm and the Aquatic scourge being it's long lost relative, hence the tooltip "It's time for a family reunion!"

[distant gyro]

exact 100 bruh moment

[ashen warren]

this good?

[civic pond]

[ivory heart]

@ashen warren A friendly reminder: you posted that three times in here. Post it in #suggestions-voting instead.

[civic pond]

yes but

wtf

[ivory heart]

And yes

[distant gyro]

you can post it in here first

as drafting or whatever

[civic pond]

anyways

[ivory heart]

Ok

[frail mantle]

you're advised to post stuff here first

[ivory heart]

Ok

[bitter topaz]

@ivory heart firstly, don't minimod. i'm right here
secondly, you're supposed to post suggestions in here first for criticism

[ivory heart]

Post away them

@bitter topaz Oh right

I thought you were not supposed to post suggestions here

[bitter topaz]

also.
if you continue being an idiot you'll earn yourself a warn, so keep that in mind before you speak

[ivory heart]

Sorry about that

[civic pond]

need

more swung flails

Elemental arrows

[distant gyro]

not enough details tbh

where/how, why, etc

[lost agate]

Why would you need that if all bows at that tier dont even use the arrow type youre using

@ivory heart elaborate on your suggestion

[frail mantle]

instead of saying "add something among the lines of this vague concept", say "add x that does y and is obtained by z because w"

[rancid frigate]

how can i use this mod?

[lost agate]

First of all, #help-advice-read-pins is where you wanna ask

[civic pond]

dont put math into this

[civic pond]

🤔

[ashen warren]

that took a lot more thought than i expected tbh

[devout seal]

Isn't Elemental Mix a thorium debuff?

[civic pond]

i agree

also slimes are squishy and bouncy

[devout seal]

So is the bean

[civic pond]

this never made sense to me in the first place

[ashen warren]

that actually makes sense as a suggestion

[queen delta]

i discovered this a long time ago but kept forgetting to suggest it lol

[ashen warren]

lmao

[radiant meadow]

it taking fall dmg is like 50-50 in the first place tbh

[queen delta]

yeah i noticed that as well

[frosty kindle]

@arctic hearth uhhhh #suggestions-voting isn't the place for that

[civic pond]

um

[frosty kindle]

#help-advice-read-pins would do though

[civic pond]

wtf

[arctic hearth]

My bad no one will help me

[fresh harbor]

Calamity mod merch can't really be done because the Terraria Team can sue

Plus I think there already are some mousepads?

[arctic tapir]

signus body pillow

[queen delta]

A DoG pillow would be nice

[arctic tapir]

DoG ummm....

[radiant meadow]

ye, there's already mousepads which is the merch

[arctic tapir]

"toy"

to play with

:)

[radiant meadow]

@prisma jewel there's already calamity mod merch, it's the mousepads
If you want to buy one, visit here https://youpads.com/calamity/

[prisma jewel]

eee

ok ty

the existence of these is a fatal mistake on my wallet

ok im sorry

[vestal elbow]

they are?

isn't demonshade the glass cannon alternative thanks to its set bonus

[radiant meadow]

@shell crystal if you utilize the enrage, demonshade hits far greater damage at the cost of survivability
demonshade is meant to be the all class glass cannon

[shell crystal]

🤔

[lost agate]

auric aint really stronger than demonshade

theyre equal if anything

[shell crystal]

It feels that way With all the other effects

[lost agate]

wdym?

[zenith hazel]

auric is the defensive armor, demonshade is offensive so they’re interchangeable

[distant gyro]

^

[zenith hazel]

but who knows, maybe demonshade splitting into different classes could be a thing when yharim drops

[ashen warren]

I don't see the problem with having it enabled or disabled

I'm always using the counter scarf which takes priority over the asgard's dash

However, you can use the SoC as an early means of dashing if you're not on rev+

[radiant meadow]

invisible dye mod problem solved
like how many times does aegis dashing and visibility get suggested

@silent ibex get the invisible dye so you can have the shield "visible" for dashing but you can't see it
think you craft the dye with dirt or something easy

[queen delta]

i recently came across a problem

shields cover my vision but i wanna dash too, so ima suggest that

hope it gets enough stars

[silent ibex]

Thanks - I'll look into that. I don't see anything on the wiki, and dirt doesn't show any crafting recipes like that. Is your invisible dye a different mod perhaps?

[radiant meadow]

Yata, I will fucking murder you

[queen delta]

Yay

[radiant meadow]

ye it's a different mod

[tired parcel]

@gloomy hazel For your minicopter suggestion, spirit mod has already done that and that is the exact same sprite that they use, as well as the gun on it idea, the only difference i can see is that it goes 4 mph faster 😐

[keen oxide]

I just had an idea for a perfect rogue weapon from doucheron, the downside is that it is both an upgrade of the stellar knife and also a JoJo reference (but also a better reference)

[tired haven]

Birb is far more useful than you make it seem to be
It was supposed to be just a "sentinel" for Yharon, but it also has material for armor (silva) and hp upgrade, and also drops 3 viable weapons. If something, Profaned Guardians need far more meaning.
Also the suggestion is too vague, it doesn't contribute any useful ideas

Don't consider this as offense but rather the attempt to fix direction of suggestions

[hearty spade]

Signus is hard enough for early Post ML

[arctic wren]

Honestly I don't think Signus especially needs a buff. He's not meant to be a major boss so of course provi, polter, dog, yharon and scal are gonna be way harder once you get his pattern down.

But I wouldn't complain if he were to get one as long as it isn't just "moar hp"

very lazy

I fully agree Ceaseless Void could use a buff

stormweaver I can't see being made fun without being entirely revamped

[placid moth]

it's a worm boss so

[arctic wren]

yep

[elfin maple]

calamity is worm mod after all

[radiant meadow]

@tired haven pretty sure dragonfruit doesn't need feathers anymore and requires darksun fragments instead

[tired haven]

Thenk
Even I can't follow all calamity changes in time, what a ripoff

[radiant meadow]

but ye, birb is pretty useful
optional where it is in progression but the weapons provide a helpful boost for prov

[autumn lion]

signus more health, what a pain ^

I'd better like if he had more attack or a speed buff but more health is a no for me lmao

[frail mantle]

signus doesn't need a buff at all imo

[hearty spade]

^

Signus is good as it is

[gloomy hazel]

@tired parcel I wasn't aware of that...it was an idea that just popped out of my head

Okay, I've updated the Mi-Ni Hind mount

And I changed the reason why it should be added

[frail mantle]

another Aegis visibility suggestion

[radiant pawn]

wait was it suggested before?

[frail mantle]

yea

several times

[radiant pawn]

fuck

[frail mantle]

i think it might even be in the oversuggested list in the Don'ts doc

lemme check

[void kelp]

at this point it should be

[frail mantle]

it ain't

[rustic ember]

@radiant pawn Just use the invisible dye mod

[radiant meadow]

it literally was like 3 posts above

[civic pond]

shet

i meant to put aerialite bars in my desc

[frosty vortex]

After how long is it safe to say that nothing's going to happen to it for a suggestion with a green check only?

[civic pond]

🤔

[void kelp]

I mean, with that logic, no suggestion is going to happen

only a few suggestions happen, if at all, especially considering how the devs have their own priority list for the upcoming update; I believe the update following will involve more user suggestion to

**tho

[civic pond]

the only suggestion i've seen that got implemented since i've been here was about TotalHalibuts name

[distant gyro]

There's just no one willing to sprite a trophy for a lot of the bosses iirc

If there's a spriter for em' there would be trophies/masks for all of the bosses

[delicate raft]

^

[civic pond]

🤔

[delicate raft]

If something as obvious as a trophy doesn't exist, then there must be a reason

[cyan lagoon]

@civic quail there will be one when one is sprited

[smoky wagon]

I saw an as trophy in art server

so people are working on it

[ashen warren]

I Like the placing bar idea it would be cool to put down cosmolite bars

[terse sundial]

I made one, but it was bad

[civic pond]

I was thinking about suggesting a drop for cursed hammers/cursed swords

like an actual drop

considering they're possessed weapons after all

[terse sundial]

oh yeah, I've got to develop my idea for a Wulfrum yoyo

[civic pond]

I like where thats going

[terse sundial]

just have to figure out specifics

[cyan lagoon]

tbh having a yoyo for every material isn't a good idea

[distant gyro]

Wulfrum yoyo would be replaced by amazon quick tbh

[cyan lagoon]

since we don't want every modded set overpowering vanilla stuff

[radiant meadow]

wulfrum is kinda a basic material that already has all the basics

[civic pond]

eh

[radiant meadow]

1 melee, 1 ranged, 1 mage, 1 rogue, and a rudimentary armor set (summons are pain to code and sprite iirc)

[cyan lagoon]

spritewise that's not true

code wise however...

[radiant meadow]

or maybe it was animating, I forget

[terse sundial]

it was an idea that came to me as I was beginning my death mode melee run

not sure how far it would get thought

[radiant meadow]

either way, summons are like the least favorite type of weapon to make

[civic pond]

i can see why there'll never be another mechworm

[distant gyro]

That nerf suggestion to phase 3 fishron is quite heavy considering duke always have a pattern of dashing in phase 3 and it's up to the player to learn his movements.

[smoky wagon]

use the map for that phase

it gives you more opportunity to dodge

[winged ice]

For fishy, I abuse invincibility and adrenaline to take him about before 3rd phase is an issue

[elfin maple]

Summons are really annoying to make

I can tell you that from personal experience

You have to make a player bool, buff, projectile, item, make all the AI...

[loud steeple]

so heres my rough idea on the cheese furniture set

The cheese furniture set

Cheese - drops from sunskater or something else around pre-hardmode

Cheese chair - made from cheese,could possible have the sprite look like cheese is falling off the bottom of the chair. The chair could be 1 block wide and 2 tall.

Cheese workbench - made from cheese, could have the sprite look like cheese is falling off the sides of the workbench. It could be 3 blocks wide and 2 tall.

Cheese table - made from cheese, could have the sprite look like cheese is falling off the sides of the table, much like the workbench but in a slightly greater quantity. It could be 3 blocks long and 2 blocks tall.

Cheese block- a yellowish block that could have the single block sprite look like the cheese is falling of the sides but when multiple are together the side its on doesn't have the the “melting” part of it and possible the longer it is ex. 25 blocks wide, the middle block could have more cheese melting on it because physics. It could be 3 blocks long and 2 blocks tall.

Cheese wheel - a round circular piece of cheese about the length of a table. It could be placed on a table.

Cheese machine - a possible crafting place on where the furniture could be crafted at.

The cheese furniture set could be made at a solidifier or a special machine called the cheese machine.

any thoughts?

[hollow shell]

Prolly too silly for Calamity

[loud steeple]

so no cheesy idea?

[hollow shell]

No cheesy idea.

[loud steeple]

well anyone know how hard it is to make a furniture mod?

[hollow shell]

Pretty sure the resources to do it exist in the template mod
so
not hard

[loud steeple]

well time to try and make a very cheesy mod

[radiant meadow]

if you have the sprites, it's probably not hard to code

[elfin maple]

yeah, furniture doesn't seem like it's be too hard

the main thing is spriting them

[icy cove]

On this topic, whats a good website to use for creating a mod?

[tired haven]

Github is generic choice for this

[arctic wren]

dog's godbreath given more width

pls no given you have no way of predicting when he uses it

it just pops up when it wants and if you're in range of it when it is you have no time to react

[warm tinsel]

Exactly

[ashen warren]

fairly sure it has a visual and audio cue for when it's about to fire

[quiet abyss]

Well, one could argue that over the sound of you hitting DoG with your weapon the audio cue can be a bit hard to hear, and that the visual cue isn't exactly the most clear one, especially on low graphic settings.
I definitely do agree though that DoG's flamethrower is telegraphed and doesn't just "come out of nowhere" if you pay attention to the cues.

[void kelp]

wait, there’s a visual cue?

[tired haven]

Doggo has a bit of sparks in mouth

Before using the flamethrower itself

[tulip parcel]

that doesn't feel like enough

[tired haven]

Maybe, I'm just saying technically there is

[tulip parcel]

considering at that point in the game you probably have way more flashy spark type weapons than doggo has sparkles

[pliant bone]

Lower than optimal res monitors makes it harder to see the visual cue -1366x768 gang

[tired haven]

lower than optimal are lowkey unplayable anyway, change my mind

Well, there could be slightly flashing screen, like 3 small brighter moments, smoothly animated

But then again, probably need to buff an attack like this then because too much honor for extendo head

[hollow shell]

@red stratus

Next update

[red stratus]

Oh, cool.

[terse sundial]

@red stratus Can you suggest how you want to make Cryogen more difficult?

Like an idea of what you want to see improved

[red stratus]

When Cryogen 'derps out' maybe it should fire out icicles constantly, sort of like that old phase when "Cryogen was splitting apart"

[terse sundial]

add that then

[red stratus]

I know zip about coding in Terraria

Can't help in that field

[terse sundial]

I mean add it to the suggestion

like, edit it in

[red stratus]

o

[terse sundial]

[red stratus]

Done

[terse sundial]

I would also delete your SCal Bros suggestion, seeing as it's already been changed for the next version

[red stratus]

Good idea

[frail mantle]

cryogen isn't meant to be very hard, seeing as he's meant to be the first boss you fight after WoF

[ivory heart]

Terrashot : A pre-Plantera Gun that shoots a singular, powerful bullet, similar to the Venus Magnum. Crafted using the _________, a Broken Hero Sword, and 5 of the Souls of Might, Light, and Fright.

[zenith hazel]

why a broken hero sword?

[ivory heart]

There’s no Broken Hero Gun barrel

[zenith hazel]

doesn’t mean it fits the recipe

[hushed breach]

Just have a Broken Hero Gun material

[slim fern]

A new item just for one recipe?

[zenith hazel]

besides, megalodon is already there as a pre-plant gun

[frail mantle]

why a Broken Hero item at all

[zenith hazel]

who’s the hero

[hushed breach]

where’s the hero

[ivory heart]

Clarification: some recipes in Calamity use the Broken Hero Sword, and it was used in the Terra Blade.

[frail mantle]

what

[zenith hazel]

and what class is the terra blade?

[ivory heart]

Pre Plant

[hushed breach]

What class is it though

[zenith hazel]

...don’t you understand what class means

[ivory heart]

Ok

Melee

[zenith hazel]

also what you said was wrong as well, terra blade is post-plant in calamity

and what class is your weapon?

[frail mantle]

make it Ashes of Calamity if you want it to be post-mech tier pre-plant

[zenith hazel]

because it’s a terra tier weapon, why not use living shards and make it post-plant?

[ivory heart]

Terra Ray and Terra Flameburster exist but I don’t like how a gun doesn’t exist for this

[zenith hazel]

because megalodon exists?

[ivory heart]

I just want a gun with the Terra color palette

Instead of just having to use the Pestilent Defiler

[zenith hazel]

then make the recipe make sense by not using broken hero sword and use living shards instead?

[ivory heart]

Ok

But now

Living shards is Post Plant

[hushed breach]

Terra weapons are post plant

[ivory heart]

Terra Blade is pre plant

[zenith hazel]

no it isn’t

[hushed breach]

In calamity, it’s post plant

[zenith hazel]

not in calamity

[ivory heart]

Vanilla Recipe

[zenith hazel]

yes but we’re talking about calamity

[ivory heart]

Still, the vanilla recipe stays

[zenith hazel]

huh, why?

what are you even trying to say

[frail mantle]

the vanilla recipe doesn't matter cause all Terra Weapons are Post-Plant in Calamity

[round falcon]

aren't the shards pre-plantera

@ivory heart living shards drop from plantera

[radiant pawn]

@ivory heart no it doesnt

in calamity the recipe changed to be post plantera

and you also get a vanilla terrashot

Sniper Rifle

[frail mantle]

^

[bronze ledge]

Should the calamitias core has the brothers summoned by default, and turning off visibility disables them?

[frail mantle]

o yea i forgot that

[bronze ledge]

After all, that's how every other item that uses that mechanic works

[frail mantle]

one moment

[bronze ledge]

most notably the heart of the elements

also, bonus points to people who caught the references in my achivements

[rocky needle]

Is the shield visibility suggestion planned to get in? Considering how much it is suggested I'd be amazed if it isn't

[frail mantle]

possibly™

[radiant meadow]

@dreamy meteor the suggestion isn't bad but a couple of your examples are a bit off
like there's no point in zerg during a boss fight since bosses passively give the Zen effect which overrides zerg
additionally, by the time you can tackle SCal, calamitas is largely obsolete

[civic pond]

ok

something about scals bros is good

[queen delta]

Calamity is more about adding weapons to existing classes, as well as rogue

[placid girder]

Thorium has healer

[queen delta]

Rogue is already dry on content

[placid girder]

But calamity and thorium may be getting cross compatability eventually

I think fabs talked about it

[hollow shell]

@fallow nebula See the Suggestion Don'ts document, suggestions about new classes aren't allowed
Thorium already has a healer class and a support class anyhow

[fallow nebula]

alright, im just new here and there's so much going on

[hollow shell]

It's fine

[fallow nebula]

Its just easy too get lost in the abundance of information

[queen delta]

I feel you tbh

[fallow nebula]

I am curious about this "Calamity Thorium" crossover

[hollow shell]

It's been an idea floating around for a long while
Fab and Sam never really had a good opportunity to do it, though

[ashen warren]

@bronze ledge for the last one, make it only with pre-hardmode gear

[bronze ledge]

done

[civic pond]

🤔

[slate crown]

@ripe wing or just have music boxes play while in inventory

[civic pond]

or how about a seperate accessory slot for music boxes only

[slate crown]

even better

[civic pond]

i mean thats kind of a waste of a normal slot..

[slate crown]

make it an equipment slot

[civic pond]

only vanity tho.

[slate crown]

next to pets, grapples

[civic pond]

yes

[slate crown]

yea

[radiant meadow]

@ivory heart SCal is a superboss. Yharon is the final boss, hence Terminus drops from him.

[ivory heart]

Ok

Really, SC’s Calamitous Essence drop is the gateway to the most powerful weapons in the history of the Calamity mod so far

[queen delta]

Yet yharim's crystal is used often in BR nohits

[civic pond]

I was going to suggest an extra slot near the pets/mounts for a music box only

any thoughts

[radiant meadow]

that's because the dev weapons are meant to be powerful?

It's actually very difficult to code an extra accessory slot

[civic pond]

ok nevermind then

h

[radiant meadow]

wing slot already had to work very hard to achieve what it did, and even then, it's not like a normal accessory slot

[arctic tapir]

why is it not?

[cyan lagoon]

@graceful harness you can force the cultists that spawn by the dungeon to not spawn

placing walls where they normally spawn

or this

True, but I unfortunately think that it might be vanilla's fault

[arctic tapir]

can they spawn at a fake dungeon

[hollow shell]

No

Unless that fake dungeon is built where the original dungeon generated

[civic pond]

so if you destroy the original dungeon..?

[hollow shell]

yeah

[civic pond]

oh.

[arctic tapir]

darn

[open prairie]

highly epic suggestion lmao

[ashen warren]

👍

tbh it's an iffy suggestion

[open prairie]

yea it's kinda pointless lol

[radiant meadow]

smh, you just want a role

[open prairie]

bruh i didn't tell him to do this

[ashen warren]

i did it willingly tbh

[arctic wren]

Can someone add "suggest making the anti-linearity features linear in some way" to the "don't suggest" list

that's kinda the point of the tablet, so you can break progression if you really want to

[ashen warren]

^

[elfin maple]

mhm

[ashen warren]

you should suggest that

[ivory heart]

Remind the God of Dead Memes that his suggestion, the Calamitous Core, got 100+ stars.

[ashen warren]

he makes a ton of good suggestions tbh

especially the items

[ivory heart]

I’d say

[ashen warren]

they're 🔥

[ivory heart]

If he keeps doing this Fabsol might need to consider hiring this guy

[ashen warren]

ikr

[ivory heart]

You posted this a while ago, It got enough stars

@ashen warren

[ashen warren]

oh wow, it did

[ivory heart]

Nice job

[ashen warren]

the first suggestion i made that got 100+ stars

thanks

[ivory heart]

I think the chat is kinda empty because people are usually asleep at this time

[ashen warren]

it feels like the exact opposite for me

[ivory heart]

It’s 8:47 PM for me

[ashen warren]

west coast? same

[ivory heart]

And yeah the US has a lot of people

Me included

[livid coral]

it's 22:50 for me

[queen delta]

171 stars

Hoping to beat the guy who made the scal bag suggestion

[radiant meadow]

there's been one or two with over 200 stars

[ashen warren]

oh yeah

that was some time ago

[civic quail]

what cosmic blade would look like

[ashen warren]

that's a nice sprite

props to the maker of it

[civic quail]

thanks

and thanks

you should see the transition from the original idea to that

[ashen warren]

i'm interested

[livid coral]

You vs. the guy she tells you not to worry about

[ashen warren]

that'd be an accurate depiction of the situation

[pliant bone]

That's is some good shit there

What tier would that blade planning to be?

[ashen warren]

maybe exo tier

[civic quail]

uhh I wanted it to be post-yharon p2 (auric tier), the debuff it gives drains max hp by 3000 per second if defense is 0, hitting the opponent with the blade will lower enemy defense by 80

but now, scroll up in the suggestion list, that's what everyone wanted

[ashen warren]

only 81 stars smh

it deserves more...

[frail mantle]

tbh the only reason my suggestions get a high amount of stars is because i make sprites for them

[civic quail]

It's a good idea, but they're all like... we have enough swords...

[ashen warren]

just remove the least-liked sword tbh

[civic quail]

I got some cosmic ideas for guns (a clockwork like sniper rifle (basically burst)), a spell book , a staff, a yoyo and a bow

[sleek wadi]

My stance on melee is that any suggestions should be for non-sword weapons. Calamity already has way more than enough swords as is. IIRC Calamity has more swords than any other mod. This shit ain't the worm mod. It's the sword mod.

[lost agate]

Yet somehow its still lacking a good option for skelly

[ashen warren]

item-wise it's a sword mod

boss-wise it's a worm mod

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[lost agate]

Thats too generalizing but whatever

[radiant pawn]

making a better clockwork rifle would be not so good but not so bad either cause' Clockwork best early HW gun

call it Hemlok

[arctic tapir]

I’m just proud of myself for getting so many star on the goblin suggestion

[ornate comet]

My first suggestion already has more than 90 stars lol

[frail mantle]

[distant gyro]

Ranger is good post-ML though

@unkempt panther what do you want to be buffed exactly

[bitter topaz]

@unkempt panther firstly, ranged is an extremely viable option for nearly all of post ml
secondly, please elaborate on what you want buffed etc. , just saying "buff pls" doesn't help anybody

[unkempt panther]

In part that damage or DPS of ranger, it kind of gets sucky when it goes before you get the endgame weapons. Then again I had not played ranger for a while in the mod....

[distant gyro]

endgame weapons? do you mean dev weapons? because I'm fairly sure those are pretty buffed a while ago

[queen delta]

Pretty sure the only weak point of post ML ranger is pre-DoG stage

Seadragon isnt really that good for DoG

[unkempt panther]

Yeah that was what I was really talking about.

that point in time there should be another ranged weapon or maybe buff sea dragon.

[queen delta]

But ranger is fine overall

Considering onyxia now exists

and the pack

[distant gyro]

I mean, if you want a good ranged weapon for dog you could just suggest one

[queen delta]

finger guns for DoG when

[unkempt panther]

true, I probably should have thought about it before posting it, I will most likely edit it later.

[distant gyro]

If you buff seadragon it'd just be a polterghast melter

[queen delta]

delete the suggestion then edit later

[unkempt panther]

k

[radiant meadow]

ye, seadragon is meant to be used on polterghast, not doggo

buffing seadragon would be a bad idea in regards to balance

[lost agate]

What abyss ranged weapon do you get at that tier?

[distant gyro]

Sulp Acid cannon

[lost agate]

:darylsuffering:

[queen delta]

Pretty sure homing arrows exist

Terra arrows and vanquisher arrows iirc

Tho im not an expert on ranger

[full bramble]

vanquisher arrow yes

[radiant meadow]

The split terra arrows and Vanquisher shadow arrows home

[queen delta]

But i guess straight up homing arrows should exist

Both the fired one and the split ones, if theres any

[full bramble]

I think they should exist

what if you equipped them and then drataliornus meteors homed in more

[queen delta]

So i starred it

[loud steeple]

@sick bane idk if theres allready a recipe like this but mabey nano arrows that home

[queen delta]

Chloro bullets exist so there should be an archer alternative for the shit aims out there

[loud steeple]

i like my nano idea

they could have little boosters on the side

and depending on the direction there homing to

the boosters activate

just a quick like 30 second idea

[civic gust]

archers have vanquisher arrows

[smoky wagon]

vanquisher arrows after post DoG

homing arrows might be nice for some of the other 90% of the game

[elfin maple]

i think some other mods add some

[arctic wren]

Make the Halibut Cannon a regular progression weapon that drops from Eidolon Wyrms once Polterghast is killed. Obviously this would take out the scaling damage aspect of the weapon

Right now the Halibut Cannon is in an odd state where it's pretty much an impossible to get meme weapon that serves no other purpose but to be a meme, which I think is a disservice to the weapon itself.

Giving it a place in progression would make it much easier to balance, give Ranger a better option than the sulphuric acid cannon to get from the abyss for DoG, and also allow the weapon some actual use in a regular playthrough. This would also involve making it available on all difficulties.

[tired haven]

That's probably going to kill a "holy shit that's SO RARE drop" vibe, but guess that's actually decent re-purpose for this weapon

[arctic wren]

Alright. I'll go ahead and post it then given I doubt it'll get any more feedback

[tired haven]

Welp, I am to be blamed then

[proven tide]

noting that of course this would freak balancing in early hardmode when you pull the permafrost strat

[arctic wren]

you say that as if eidolic wail wouldn't shit on anything in pre-ml when used well too

[tired haven]

Implying pulling out that strat doesn't freak balancing with soul edge, eidolic why and early ctoplasm

[arctic wren]

^

or that the current halibut cannon wouldn't do the same thing anyway

[proven tide]

I mean

it'd be an easier way to shit on ranged balancing already

eidolic wail and soul edge are themselves massively overpowered at that stage yes but this just adds yet another class to the can-now-have-its-balanced-nuked list

[arctic wren]

Has Fabsol not made eidolon wyrm immune to that wep yet anyway

[proven tide]

not as far as I know?

[tired haven]

In next patch

[arctic wren]

when I first saw that kill video using it I thought it'd be added as an exception to that wep immediately

in next patch

Okay see? that would make it a non-issue

[tired haven]

Wait, I think I missed a concern
What is bad for halibut becoming common after polter?

[proven tide]

easy

[arctic wren]

I think he meant the big eidolon wyrm

the coldheart icicle strat?