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strange patio
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That way it involves some tactics in using it as well

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A problem may arise when you have more than one of it

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As there would have to be a cap on the buffs

proven tide
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Summoning it multiple times simply buffs the single drone

strange patio
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Ah

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Thats brilliant

proven tide
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Easy fix

strange patio
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And each minion increases damage and the effect of the buff

proven tide
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+1 damage per minion slot

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And then... buff duration? Or potency?

strange patio
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Potency

proven tide
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Note that increasing either of the above a few times starts to encroach on Nebula Armour-tier effects

strange patio
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Because the crates would have to expire after they get dropped

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True

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But it would be alot less

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Maybe start the buffs lower

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So damage at 1%

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And so on

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With each minion adding potency and each crate refreshing the buff time

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@proven tide thoughts?

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Or if its still early game, each buff adds one with each minion

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So 5% would go to 6%

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4 would go to 5

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And hp increase would stay 10 but heal effect would go to 6

proven tide
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Oh back

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Hmm

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It sounds viable but I feel it would need a mid-late PHM progression lock

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@bitter drift Ey wanna rewrite that suggestion?

strange patio
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Good idea

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For both

bitter drift
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here deleted

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Or if its still early game, each buff adds one with each minion

i once had the idea of sentinels legendary summon weapon that did exactly this type of shit
every time you use the weapon the summons summoned by the weapon become stronger instead of more summons popping up @strange patio

strange patio
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Its a cool concept if done right

bitter drift
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@strange patio you think i should retry to post the idea?

strange patio
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Yeah post it here first just to be on the safe side

bitter drift
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k

zenith hazel
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and pls make it comprehensible

bitter drift
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New legendary weapon (summon).
Dropped by (none) this weapon is craftable
Items to craft: 3 new legendary items (one from each sentinel), 50 phantoplasm, 100 ulibloom bar, 25 lumenite bars, 6 dark plasma, 6 twisting nether, 10 armored shell

New legendary items for the recipe:

1.Cosmic cacoon (description: so that what i can rip from it) dropped from storm weaver at a 3% chance

2.Dark matter (description: the substance of a black hole) dropped at a 3% chance from celestial void

3.Cursed cape (description: it is hideous no wonder it hides itself) dropped at a 3% chance from signus

This is my crafting recipe for it

hearty spade
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The plasma/nether/shells requirement doesn't make sense

bitter drift
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why it's a sentinel legendary weapon

hearty spade
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10 plasma and 10 nether is too much if it requires 10 shells too

bitter drift
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so lower it to 6

distant gyro
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you get more shells than other stuffs

bitter drift
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so what to do?

distant gyro
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so keep shells at 10 but lower the rest?

bitter drift
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k

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here

distant gyro
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Also are each pieces just solely materials?

bitter drift
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yes

placid moth
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I would reduce to 1 - 3 tbh

bitter drift
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as i said it's a sentinels legendary summon it includes all of the sentinels so that why there are 3 legendary items

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also what to lower?

distant gyro
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I'd say lower the Uelibloom

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100 is like overkill++

bitter drift
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to 80 or 75

placid moth
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Lower everything daryl

hearty spade
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The main problem is

distant gyro
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Phantom Heart also has expensive amount of phanto so I'm fine with that

hearty spade
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What does it do

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This is just a recipe

distant gyro
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Also add some more ideas to it yes

bitter drift
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it's over kill becuase it's a legendary weapon
i didn't say what it does yet ciz it will be way to long

distant gyro
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After all you plan it to be a legendary

placid moth
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It's a legendary weapon that is craftable daryl

bitter drift
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yes that is why the overkill exist

placid moth
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This sounds almost as ludicrous as Halibut Cannon.
Do enlighten us on how it would work though.

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A brief summary.

distant gyro
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btw don't commit game breaking item

bitter drift
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the first time you use it. it summos a mini version of the 3 sentinel, the more you use it the more powerful the summons are (no extra summons will popout of the weapons only the first 3)

the summons space also go up a lot the more to use it at max it take 15 summon slots

hearty spade
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Keep in mind that Sentinels are pre-Providence

bitter drift
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NO

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they are post prov

frail mantle
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technically yes

bitter drift
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in the lore no

frail mantle
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if you want to, you can just skip Prov until post-Yharone

placid moth
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You can do Sentinels pre-provi.

bitter drift
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yes but in lore no

zenith hazel
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besides, sentinels getting stronger the more you use them is basically item scaling

distant gyro
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They included uelibloom in the recipe though

frail mantle
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oh

ashen warren
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item scaling ono

zenith hazel
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lore didn’t state you needed to kill sentinels after provi tho

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it only states them hating each ther

hearty spade
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Making a legendary item that drops from a boss but can't be crafted before another boss further in the game 🤔

bitter drift
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before you could have killed bosses without order that was the case

placid moth
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what ?

zenith hazel
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you can kill bosses without order tho

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sequence breaking is everywhere post ml

hearty spade
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And it's intended

bitter drift
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but before that was the case you had to kill prov before the sentinels

zenith hazel
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but not anymore

distant gyro
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People can do doggo before prov

zenith hazel
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so in that sense, sentinels can be pre prov

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besides 80 uelibloom, wtf

distant gyro
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I thought this has been a feature for a while now

zenith hazel
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that is waaay too much

bitter drift
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i go through the previous boss order
and this a legendary weapon no wonder it will be an over kill

zenith hazel
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a craftable legendary weapon is odd

placid moth
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Your crafting recipe requires :

  • At least 3-4 ML fights
  • 3 of each Sentinels
  • Uelibloom is excessive yes, and we want some of it for the armor.
zenith hazel
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legendary weapons are supposed to be rare

distant gyro
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You already require grinding on 3 bosses to get this item

ashen warren
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but legendary weapons are shit now
(except shpc malachite and community)

distant gyro
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Why more grinding

zenith hazel
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yeah, normally, only one boss is required for one item

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now it’s like 4

hearty spade
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"Yeah this recipe is bad but it's legendary"

bitter drift
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then let me lower some costs

frail mantle
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also, you haven't really described what the Sentinel Minions actually do, besides becoming stronger every time you use the summon weapon

zenith hazel
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why not make it a legendary drop from doggo

distant gyro
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Just make it so it requires 5 uelibloom+luminte and the 3 pieces

zenith hazel
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oh wait cosmic discharge

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but still, a doggo drop would make more sense

distant gyro
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imagine 2 legendaries from 1 boss

bitter drift
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New legendary weapon (summon).
Dropped by (none) this weapon is craftable
Items to craft: 3 new legendary items (one from each sentinel), 50 phantoplasm, 65 ulibloom bar, 20 lumenite bars, 6 dark plasma, 6 twisting nether, 10 armored shell

New legendary items for the recipe:

1.Cosmic cacoon (description: so that what i can rip from it) dropped from storm weaver at a 3% chance

2.Dark matter (description: the substance of a black hole) dropped at a 3% chance from celestial void

3.Cursed cape (description: it is hideous no wonder it hides itself) dropped at a 3% chance from signus

This is my crafting recipe for it

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back to the drawing board

zenith hazel
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alright first of all, 3 3% drops

bitter drift
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will post the rest and effects in a doc

zenith hazel
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ok

bitter drift
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yes 3 3% drops for no hell to grined

zenith hazel
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a legendary is always 5% with defiled

bitter drift
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yes

ashen warren
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i doubt that will be a thing

zenith hazel
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but still, 3 less than 5% drops as materials for one item

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what is this, apotheosis?

proven tide
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You need to give us view permissions

bitter drift
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try now

proven tide
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@soft coral Did you just self-star

soft coral
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It only has 1

proven tide
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You self-starred

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Don't HyperEthanJudge

frail mantle
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perhaps instead of saying "add something among the lines of this vague concept" say "add x which does y and is obtained by z"

proven tide
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Also, is that a craftable legendary, crafted from other legendaries that only exist to be crafted into a summon?

bitter drift
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yes . but it's not done yet
2 more phases

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@lmulion

  1. the sand dome (summoner) {from stationary antlions 5%}
    summons a stationary antlion to throw sand at enemies
    if the summon have a 5% chance that the sand will be corrupted and suffocate the enemy for 5 seconds

good enough?

strong yew
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Post-Polterghast upgrades to the Post-Plantera Abyss weapons and Sunken Sea weapons.

frail mantle
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why

bitter drift
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i guess so

frail mantle
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afaik all the classes are strong enough post-polter, they don't really need new weapons

bitter drift
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rogue lack weapons everywhere

zenith hazel
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yeah there's no need to farm for such a tedious weapon when calamari's lament is good already

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valediction is more than enough for doggo

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besides, rogue is still a developing class, ofc it won't have many weapons atm

frail mantle
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^

bitter drift
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what do you think about the continuing of my suggestion

zenith hazel
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it's your choice

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it's the issue of balancing that's at hand here

bitter drift
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no i want criticism not if to continue or not

zenith hazel
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do you think it's necessary to have such a weapon at that point in the game?

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especially since it costs a lot?

bitter drift
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kinda remember levi said Yharon was to hard for a pure summoner no hit maybe it will give him the ability for the balance

frail mantle
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that was ages ago

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summoner is pretty decent for Yharon now

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also Levi has already nohit Yharon as a summoner

bitter drift
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at least it's original sad

frail mantle
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i suppose

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at least you didn't just copy other people's ideas

pliant bone
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@soft coral atleast have the description of that summon weapon other than what you describe it to be.

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And it would prob be preferable to put the minion like somewhere around post-evil (Vanilla) bosses.

soft coral
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Louis i made that suggestion to raise awareness that we need more suggestions for summoner weapons

bitter drift
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i made 2
is this what you are seartching for @soft coral Im
also IT'S FINALLY FUCKING FINISHED sweating sweating sweating sweating sweating
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1AX713bTNsCjlgJ-u6BslEZDY_fuw3wFFSdt2X8C06lk/edit?usp=drivesdk

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or how about this
a new suggestions

  1. the sand dome (summoner) {from stationary antlions 5%}
    summons a stationary antlion to throw sand at enemies
    the summon have a 5% chance that the sand will be corrupted and suffocate the enemy for 5 seconds
pliant bone
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@soft coral Well what exactly are they gonna do?
Post in #mod-announcements and say "Suggest more prehm weapons" or some things like that?
And I do recall that a lot of modders dont like coding summoner weapons

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And I wouldnt say that pre-bosses need more summoner weapons as the Slime staff IS a solid choice even like upto Crabulon

bitter drift
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of course it's just lack diversity

distant gyro
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iirc EoC is the only boss summoner takes long to kill

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it's not lack of diversity tbh

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Sun Spirit, Slime, Conch, Deepsea

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4 early game summoner weapons

bitter drift
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i didn't know there where more...

pliant bone
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Conch tbh doesnt even have a brain cell

bitter drift
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i never used summonsHenkhenk slobbyjoy

distant gyro
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they exist™

bitter drift
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hey what do you think about my summon weapons suggestions?

zenith hazel
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alright, your tooltip says "dog's gift" and "you are the master now" which doesn't really make sense because you haven't even killed the sentinels' current master

bitter drift
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no the name is DoG's gift
but i agree i just don't have a better name or tool tip

zenith hazel
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if so, might as well add cosmilite in

bitter drift
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k

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done

zenith hazel
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but still, it really doesn't add up how the summoning weapon for the 3 sentinels seems to be stronger than the mechworm which is basically doggo itself

bitter drift
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is the mechworm DOG?

zenith hazel
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i mean i get it's legendary but it doesn't fit lore-wise

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ofc

bitter drift
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no joke is it DoG

zenith hazel
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i just said ofc

hollow shell
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No it's not DoG himself

bitter drift
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what ofc? I'm not that good at shortcuts

hollow shell
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"of fucking course"

bitter drift
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oof

zenith hazel
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it's like a miniature doggo, essentially

bitter drift
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so what is the mechworm just a DoG baby or whatever it is

zenith hazel
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sorry, didn't read your message carefully

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it's like doggo, but not really

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just like the sentinels in your weapon

bitter drift
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look at the Items made to craft the weapons the "legendary items"

zenith hazel
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my point is the sentinels shouldn't be stronger than their master

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legendary weapon or not

bitter drift
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well i get it but it's like saying a new skilled player is better then 3 bad veterans

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you think it's good enough for posting?

hollow shell
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Sure

zenith hazel
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the only veteran here is signus tbh, ceaseless void was created due to scal and doggo's "mistake", storm weaver was basically doggo feeling bad for worms

strong yew
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Storm Weaver's basically doggo jr. according to the lore.

clear basin
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lil dog

flint chasm
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puppo

royal turtle
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are new biome suggestions allowed?

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it's not in the banned suggestions doc but that might be because no one's asked

worthy fiber
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I think they're allowed, but they'll likely be treated like boss suggestions

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In the sense that they won't likely be implemented

royal turtle
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hey you know how calamity likes putting water biomes under other biomes?

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new biome idea: Glacial Lake

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replaces the lowest third or fourth of the underground snow

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is it terrible or is it okay

ashen warren
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Could be fun but would it be like sunken sea or a sky lake underground?

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A sky lake underground I think would be a cool fun lil biome maybe throw in some boreal trees off to the edges and a tent off to the side of it and make it look like a person was living in there

gusty geode
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Has it been long enough that I can repost my suggestion to fix the Dungeon vore problem?
Thought I'd ask because the new changelog proves it's possible

ashen warren
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Never say Vore. Just dont

teal ibex
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p sure fab doesnt want it changed since thered be some underlying issues if you gen'd before the dungeon

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and next tml update will allow the dungeon to be moved afaik

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so you can go for it but itll likely fall upon deaf ears

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shucks mentioned a good point about air pockets too, so if the dungeon spawned over the abyss thered just be a huge killzone lol bingDerp

hearty spade
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On this topic, in my dungeon near the Abyss there's a huge pool of water

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Sometimes Sulphurous Sea enemies spawn there

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And sometimes enemies just go there and explode.

gusty geode
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Cool

hearty spade
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I thought it was just the problem with breathing air in Abyss but I could go there

dusty stirrup
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😎

hollow shell
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@ashen warren That could potentially make the fight much shorter because you're only dealing with Perf Hive's healthbar, instead of needing to deplete all four healthbars

gusty geode
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So drastically increase the hive's HP to compensate

hollow shell
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Fair enough

ashen warren
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Yeah that would work

hollow shell
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(oughta be included in the suggestion as well, if so)

novel surge
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what if they were all invincible up until the hive went invincible?

ashen warren
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Done

hollow shell
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Thanks

radiant meadow
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that would remove a lot of the worms' dangers

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since they're longer and always at full health, they won't be going super fast anymore

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so even with a hive hp increase, it'll honestly feel like a nerf unless you boost hp to just be insanely tedious which at that point makes a bad boss

queen delta
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Yeah part of what makes perf unique from hive mind is the fact that the health is split between 4 worms while hive mind is tanky

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Just buffing perf isnt creative and fun at all

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Its a short but intense fight while hive is long but easier

last star
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Need your opinions

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Add an accessory for rogue users that makes it so you can build up the rogue damage (the one that usually requires you to stand still) to allow it to be generated while moving aslongg as we arent attacking, but make the time required be longer than how long it would have taken if we were on the ground standing still, meaby even double the time required. I think this should be a hardmode accesory meaby post planterra or even post AD or moon lord I think this would be a great addition to the game partially because that later in the game standing still is essentially impossible which would mean that we almost never get to use this bonus rogue damage

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Anything i should change or add/remove or do u like it?

hollow shell
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Something along those lines has been suggested before, but it's fine if you make one of your own

last star
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Ill suggest it and see where it goes

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Might get lucky

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Also what is the limit for getting a suggestion accepted or sent to dev server? 90 right?

hollow shell
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Yeah

last star
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Okie just gotta wait for my old suggestion to be seen then 😛

radiant meadow
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then just use a clentaminator?

placid girder
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Can't you still do it in a corrupt ocean

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I swear you can

radiant meadow
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I think ??? only spawns on normal sand.

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if you can get ??? to spawn, sure

hollow shell
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@arctic tapir Clentaminator

arctic tapir
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yeah but still

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@placid girder nah

ashen warren
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Underground leviathian sounds like aids

radiant meadow
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and even if you could fight levi in the sunken sea, the ??? won't spawn there

arctic tapir
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yeah but why not

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WAIT

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fuck I fucked itu p again

radiant meadow
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because it's unnecessary?

arctic tapir
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meant sulphurous

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I always mix the names up

gusty geode
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Lol

radiant meadow
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so you want ??? to be spawnable on sulphurous sand

arctic tapir
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yeah

radiant meadow
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if you somehow manage to lead the duo from the first ocean, they can be fought at the sulphurous sea rn HDfailure
??? just doesn't spawn there

arctic tapir
gusty geode
proven tide
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@shell crystal that fucks worldgen immensely

shell crystal
novel pebble
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The Sulphur sea biome fills it self iirc

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Just give it time

gusty geode
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^

shell crystal
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Yeah

proven tide
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it's designed to slowly fill in through perpetual source blocks so that it doesn't shit itself when trying to make a full 5% of the world water

shell crystal
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I see

proven tide
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and you starred yourself

shell crystal
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What does starred means

novel pebble
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Gave a star

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For the suggestion

shell crystal
proven tide
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stop thonking and unstar yourself before an authority notices

livid coral
proven tide
lost agate
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@rugged hawk yeah but why

hollow shell
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Ehh
I feel like there isn't much wiggle room between high damages such as in Death Mode and simply instant death such as Armageddon

lost agate
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^

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Boosting damage on scal is simply pointless

rugged hawk
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True, but other bosses don't do as much damage as scal, and some people don't like just simply dying in one hit

proven tide
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@shell crystal you're still self-starred

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don't

hollow shell
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boi it's not a big deal

proven tide
hollow shell
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literally 1/90th of the way there

calm onyx
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Even more damage? Hot.

gusty geode
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I have a new suggestion ready to post, but idk if it's the type to post here for discussion or not

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Fuck it, why not

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A suggestion regarding suggestions

Add the ability to downvote suggestions (probably with an ❌ ), and make it so a suggestion needs a set amount more upvotes than downvotes to be sent; and to compensate for this (since 90 stars is a long way to go even without a roadblock like that) the required upvote count might have to be lowered
❔ : it would be nice for some people to show their dislike for a suggestion in a more obvious way than ignoring it or (debatably) talking about it in #suggestions-discussion, and on a grander scale, it would better illustrate the community's view on each new idea; we know how many like it, but how many don't? Would it get in without any problems, or would it be controversial enough to change the community as a whole?

hollow shell
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Hm.

tired haven
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Downvote bombing is a thing but I don't know the whole crowd psychology good enough to say anything towards or against this proposal

hollow shell
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I think that we're fine with the system we have currently
I don't think there'd be a lot of cases where a suggestion that would normally be highly-starred would actually be so divisive as to prevent it from being sent due to downvotes

shell crystal
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@proven tide bajale a tu pedo

rugged hawk
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The multiplier also doesn't have to be something massive like 10x, even 1.5x on post Moon Lord bosses can make them do damage that isn't just shrugged off.
For example, the wiki says that the DoG's laser wall does 414 damage on death mode, 1.5x would make it do 621 damage, which poses a greater threat that just being able to drink a healing potion and have it basically negated.

hollow shell
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Not sure if it'd add much. Ignoring seems to work fine for making bad suggestions not get delivered

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Yeah but then you have 60 seconds before you can negate another hit

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(or 45)

rugged hawk
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You still would be down 200 more hp after the potion, which can be the difference between life or death

hollow shell
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I mean
Yes you're right
But it seems like it'd be too specific of a middle difficulty between Death and Armageddon

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The boss health customization was done to give people with high damage builds more of a satisfying challenging fight
I don't know if there's a similar need for this

rugged hawk
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There isn't as big of a need, but some people want a middle ground between high damage and instantly dying to any attack, even a weak one

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And it could be handled similar to how the rod of discord is, where you simply take an extra 50% damage from all sources

radiant meadow
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hasn't a downvote system been decided against already?

hollow shell
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Funny you should mention
because Defiled Rune's critical hits make you effectively take 50% increased damage

then again that also comes with no wings so that's a bit of a bigger challenge 🤷

fresh harbor
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Doesn't just making a glass cannon build and increasing boss health do the same thing?

hollow shell
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maybe

rugged hawk
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A glass cannon build can only lower defense and damage resistance so far, 400 base damage is still 400, just less of it is negated by accessories, but armor still does something

livid coral
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You can only have so much glass cannon before you get OHKO'd by everything and then what, it's just like Armageddon

rugged hawk
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Even with the reaper tooth necklace and void of calamity you aren't taking much more damage than without

radiant meadow
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tbf, reaper tooth necklace halves the negative dr

rugged hawk
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There aren't many accessories that decrease DR that I know, there's the void of calamity and dimensional soul artifact

radiant meadow
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dimensional soul artifact doesn't decrease dr

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it makes you take 25% more dmg

rugged hawk
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it increases all damage you take

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which is close enough to negative DR

lost agate
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But taking more dmg != Less DR

hollow shell
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@ashen warren Could you include a reason for that to be added?
(also, did you mean "applies Life Drain"?)

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or was that just a weird way of wording that the weapon has lifesteal

radiant meadow
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also, you only get 1 pair of vamp knives in a world afaik

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and you make empyrean knives with them

proven tide
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rutile also selfstars

novel pebble
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Why is it such a big deal for you

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Do you like go thru every suggestion to see whether they self-star or not

proven tide
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yes

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because it's cheap

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👀

void kelp
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people self-star? I thought it was poor conduct to

radiant meadow
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just leave them alone

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it doesn't matter

ashen warren
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New Corruption Enemies

Discharger
An eye-like enemy that spawns on/sticks to walls and occasionally fires arcing vile-spit projectiles in random directions. In hardmode, it gains the ability to shoot bouncing cursed fireballs. It can be seen the corruption equivalent to the wall crawler.

Hatcher
A olive-green chrysalis that appears to have once been human. Upon damage, the shell bursts and reveals a random vanilla corruption enemy or boss minion, such as a pair of dank creepers, a set of hive blobs or a dark heart. In hardmode, the hatcher gains more health and will spawn a burst of cursed fireballs upon death, along with being able to summon the hardmode corruption enemies.

Why: The corruption is a relatively tame place for being the supposed evil scourge of the purity, with only two enemies in PHM, one of which doesn't even spawn frequently. The crimson has variety that fits the theme of a parasitic bloody wasteland, such as the blood crawlers and face monsters. The corruption only seems to have the two boring, vanilla enemies, which are boring and don't contribute much rather than float and w o r m.

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whatchu all think?

livid coral
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Yeah that always bothered me that corruption just has like... two enemies.

frosty kindle
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looks great! 👍

smoky wagon
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integrating the hive mind summons as regular enemies would be cool

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good idea

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include the dark hearts also

ashen warren
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Should I make some concept art or?

lost agate
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Theres no need to but whatever you want

smoky wagon
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the hatcher enemy should probably spawn enemies if you go to long without attacking it

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maybe explode on its own

ashen warren
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Maybe also be proximity based

smoky wagon
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yeah

ashen warren
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crap my suggestion only got 70 before being eaten up by new ones. shit

queen delta
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Most suggestions will always be eaten up by new ones

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It's just those that lurk thru the suggestions history that keep giving you stars

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Like by the time my cosmic shiv suggestion got 90 stars, like 10-15 suggestions were sent, and even then it got about 110

rancid silo
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make the hearts one persona 5 styled

arctic tapir
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my goblin one got eaten at like 60

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but it got to 90

elfin maple
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my thing for the arkhalis weapons has over 100 now yeetus

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and it's sent

bitter drift
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i got a new idea for an enemy and i need to get criticisms

the blood leacher a new crimson enemy
it's not that common but not that rare

it acts like the clinger but shoot ichor instade of cursed flames if it's face on a block he will leave the block he is currently sticking to and stick to the block his face on.

it drops vitamins, vine,ichor(hard mode only) and a new flail call the burning blood lasher (a flail that inflicts Ichor and cursed flames[also it dropped by the clinger])

dusty stirrup
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What would be the reason to add it

bitter drift
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there is really not much except the fact that the crimson feels not that challenging in PHM if you got the right loot there is really no reason to go there pre boss even.
this new enemy will allow to have a challenge those at that phase that know their way through the crimson and challang new player enough to give the message that this place is for later

ashen warren
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Ichor in prehmthonk

bitter drift
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no it uses Ichor pre hard mode but you not ggetting it from him til hard mode

dusty stirrup
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I don't think the loot you mentionned make it any better tbh

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Plus managing the blod crawlers pre-hm can already be pretty painful in the chasms

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Adding an ichor shooter would just be pain

ashen warren
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Imagine that with BoC

bitter drift
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so to make it a hard morr or late pre hard mode enemy

ashen warren
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Loot is a meh imo

dusty stirrup
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It doesn't need to exist in late prehm, there's not really any incentive

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and in hm it's basically useless because you have ichor stickers

ashen warren
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after all you can just zerg in crimson and get the loot

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nothing too special

signal ibex
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is there already a upgraded version of the cross necklace?

ruby cobalt
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Yes.

bitter drift
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slime staff upgrade exists?

glossy bough
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slime god staff?

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that's a thing

bitter drift
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so no

ashen warren
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i mean it's technically an upgrade

bitter drift
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yes but i meant a weapon to craft that takes the slime staff

worthy fiber
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Nope

zenith hazel
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cosmic immaterializer with slime staff as a material when

frail mantle
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tbh the Corroslime/Crimslime Staff should require the slime staff in it’s recipe

bitter drift
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agreed but i think more to a hallowed slime staff as an upgrade

ashen warren
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Huh what

bitter drift
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as a suggestion

ashen warren
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@hollow shell thought it would be a cool new weapon idea, something new that might look cool ( I’m new to this server so if I did something wrong please let me know 🤠) yeah it would apply lifesteal

bitter drift
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@ashen warren you didn't suggest anything yet...

ashen warren
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bruh he needs opinions

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🤠🤠yeah

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I was thinking about mk11 and kitana and was like

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Omg

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Throwing fans would be awesome

bitter drift
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???????wot throwing fans?

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what will they do

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what class? stage?

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recipe or drop and from who or how to make it

ashen warren
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I’m assuming the flying knife is a thrown weapon

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Is their a thrower class?

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Omg there*

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its "melee"

bitter drift
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yes yes it is and there is already a thing like it

ashen warren
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whats throwing

bitter drift
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it's rogue

ashen warren
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I thin vampire knives is also melee

bitter drift
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so?

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today in calamity throwing is rogue

ashen warren
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Vanilla items wont get rogue damage btw

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So they would be like the flying knives I the way they move, but they orbit each other and on every second orbit they overlap in the middle before returning to their twin movement , each time they hit an enemy , it lifesteals, hardmorde...

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So

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VK and FK plus x3 chaotic bars

bitter drift
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so is this like a throwing solar system?

ashen warren
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Now what crafting station…

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Wdym

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Mythril anvil

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Else try hard

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btw dont put lifesteal

bitter drift
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from your description the weapon looks like you thron a solar system

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need to go

ashen warren
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🔄 in movement around a cursor

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And on every second orbit of the cursor

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They overlap

ruby cobalt
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literally what the fuck

ashen warren
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I’ll have to make a diagram

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Of the movement

old storm
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Are there any plans for Calamity to support Boss Highlight's Boss Log? It could be used for lore entries as well iirc.

ashen warren
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Okay void that cross over part, that would be too hard

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The idea was that the twin fans both spin around the cursor

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The part where they overlap is a bit complicated

frail mantle
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Like the Flying Knife or whatever it’s called?

ashen warren
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Yeah

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But not Criss crossing

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Like how binary stars move together

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Opposing one another

bitter drift
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i have another space idea a solar system yo-yo the farther away the yo-yo is from you the diffrent effect it does is diffrent

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@ashen warren ah now i understand

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it can be a yo-yo that split in 2 the longer it is out the closer it gets to you until they explode to a jigh damage explosion and then you will have to activate it again

pliant bone
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That sounds a pain to code.

bitter drift
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oof

hollow shell
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@ashen warren I meant put a reason into your suggestion via editing.
Also, "apply lifesteal" is not a term. You might want to rephrase that bit

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You should also add all that other description stuff you mentioned

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The more description you have, the better.

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(usually)

bitter drift
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tell that to me

ashen warren
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@hollow shell TY for the heads up

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does that include how much damage it will do?

hollow shell
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You dont need to include a specific number but something general ("high damage"/"low damage") works

bitter drift
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@ashen warren also what type of weapon is it rogue melee ranger summon mage

hollow shell
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Flying Knife and Vampire Knives are both melee but I wouldn't doubt if that was supposed to be rogue

ashen warren
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Melee

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ugh its so bad but whatever lmao

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idk about the lifesteal...hmm

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idk if the whole fan speed and clockwise rotation of the cursor is possible

hollow shell
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That looks good

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nice

bitter drift
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you should make it a yo yo

rich inlet
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This knife thing looks good

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Maybe a little bit more detail will make it better

placid girder
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What do people think about an alchnpc lite equivalent for calamity with just the vanilla changes and added crafting recipes

placid moth
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Uh, no ?

ashen warren
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never

hearty spade
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Blood orbs exist for a reason

placid girder
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No as in

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The calamity vanilla changes

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Not the alchnpc stuff

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That was an example

sinful steeple
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I think it would be cool

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Pointless but cool

frail mantle
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a side mod for Calamity with just the QoL changes has been suggested before

keen nebula
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Beehives corrupting into plague hives post-Golem

sinful steeple
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That's been suggested multiple times before also why did that make me think of a mechahive miniboss

gusty geode
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That's what I wanna see
Not just plague hives, but everything that's been highly suggested, but repeatedly rejected; things the fans want but the devs can't be bothered to add for whatever reason

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In a separate mod, btw

sinful steeple
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I mean it's kinda pointless though and does nothing apart from exist for lore

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Like logically there is nothing that could even be put in there- hives are too small

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I could see like a jungle minibiome that is plagued jungle but it'd have to be executed very differently and would just in general be bizarre

gusty geode
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Well, for one, there could be a plague variant of the normal bees in infected hives

sinful steeple
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So a single useless enemy that dies in a hit?

bitter drift
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and that will accomplish?

sinful steeple
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And even if all plague enemies spawned there going there will do nothing because you can still find them in the jungle, and them only spawning in plague hives would be unreasonable

bitter drift
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i think the jungle is good as it is in that stage

severe burrow
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Yeah the jungle already has enough stuff as is.
The Hallow and world evils need more stuff, as the evils don't really change after hardmode begins while the hallow only gets a few new enemies and the option to fight two bosses after moonlord is defeated

gusty geode
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Speaking of which, one more star on those corruption enemies HyperYharimJudge

severe burrow
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Make that no more

gusty geode
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Can't you get most, if not all of them from fishing already?

severe burrow
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Uh

placid girder
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yeah you just cant get the weapons which isnt the end of the world as there are alternatives

severe burrow
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You shouldn't start your suggestion with a non-rhetorical question

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If it relates to things currently in the mod, anyway

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You can get as many abyss items as there are abyss chests, not sure if it's random which ones you get but I'm sure at least one of each is guaranteed

edgy apex
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Sorry, won't happen again i promise

severe burrow
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It's just advice not a rule dw

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What i meant was that if you want your suggestion to be taken seriously you should know what you're talking about before posting it.

edgy apex
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Oh ok, thanks for the advice. I will keep that in mind next time.

severe burrow
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Yeah make sure to read the guidelines and rules and stuff in the suggestion pins

edgy apex
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Oh, I just found what you mean. Sorry for being such a noob. I'm new to the Discord, so I guess I should think before posting next time and read the rules first.

hollow shell
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Calamity Mod Wiki

The Sulphurous Sea, also known as the Sulphur Sea, is a biome added by the Calamity Mod which spawns upon world creation. It replaces the Ocean on the Dungeon side, and is located on top of the Abyss. Its water is yellow, and it contains a hole leading to the Abyss.
It is ent...

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You can fish a lot of em up

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The weapons are excluded because they do not have upgrades and can therefore be obsolesced
making fishing for the accessories easier

edgy apex
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Oh, that makes sense. Thanks for the quick reply! 😃

hollow shell
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👍

royal turtle
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iirc there should always be enough chests for every weapon

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there's not that many of them

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@mossy parcel the ultimate fishing accessory already has free sonar effect

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so adding it to a fishing rod is kinda pointless

mossy parcel
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Oh it does, well what if the player doesn't have it then?

royal turtle
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it's prehardmode

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so they should definitely have it if they want to fish post-ML

mossy parcel
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I never bothered getting the stuff like that in the game, because I don't obligate myself to that. I only equip stuff that'll give me defense.

royal turtle
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also, any golden fishing rod upgrade should also include the hotline fishing hook and its effects imo

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lmao why

mossy parcel
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I mean not everyone tries to do that.

royal turtle
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it gives +100 fishing power, free infinite sonar, and free infinite crate potion

mossy parcel
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Okay, I might forget about the hotline fishing rod, but the infinite crate potion, no

royal turtle
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as well as the effects of the tackle box and high test fishing line

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again, this is stuff the ultimate fishing accessory ALREADY HAS

severe burrow
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All defense and warding

royal turtle
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so there's no point in giving it to a fishing rod

severe burrow
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Haha defense gang

mossy parcel
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lol yeah

royal turtle
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also, it shouldn't JUST have the hotline fishing hook in its recipe, it should be able to fish in lava

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like the hotline fishing hook, and no other vanilla fishing rod

mossy parcel
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Could you can it already, I'm adding the Hotline effects please.

lost agate
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What

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I didnt understand half of that statement

royal turtle
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the effects of the hotline fishing hook aren't listed in the suggestion (unless you're adding that right now)

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nvm

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you were

mossy parcel
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Okay, I added the hotline effects

severe burrow
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The omega fishing rod

mossy parcel
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The best fishing rod lol

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but really, that sounds like a fishing rod butcher mod or something

bitter drift
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do you think there should be a post WoF ichor rogue and or summon weapon?

noble turret
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Golden gun exists

bitter drift
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SUMMON OR ROGUE NOT RANGER

void kelp
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you do know that the golden gun is classless, right?

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also, rogue has that ichor spear that drops from ichor stickers too

bitter drift
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no i didn't and idk

void kelp
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so idk what it mean by post WoF ichor application by rogue already and technically summoner due to golden gun being usable by all classes

bitter drift
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so i'll post my summon idea

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sorry not done yet

delicate raft
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Well uh, you're supposed to post it when done thonk

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Cuz then it's just... not a suggestion

bitter drift
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an accident

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now editing

delicate raft
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ah welp

smoky wagon
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at the progression stages which you get those rods wouldnt blood orb farming be better

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for potions and such

bitter drift
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naw it's their only use for my suggestion at that stage

gloomy hazel
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How 'bout getting post-ML bars and ores from fished crates?

bitter drift
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hhhmmm sounds nice

noble turret
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Uhh

vestal elbow
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fishing suffering

ashen warren
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"Ah, yes, this cosmically enhanced steel that adorns the great cosmic worm of immense power. Glad I managed to fish it up using my wooden fishing pole"

bitter drift
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XD

ashen warren
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Fishing is for non-replenishables

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Like iron and the HM metals

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You can have infinite amounts of any post ML ore except for auric ore

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But that's in such large quantities it doesn't matter

hearty spade
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How can you get infinite Uelibloom?

hollow shell
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Bloom Slime

hearty spade
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Oh right that exists sorry.

hollow shell
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It's aight

bitter drift
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my new summon suggestion is up

ashen warren
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yay over 90 sters

bitter drift
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any criticism on the new suggestion?
i should say document because every fucking suggestion with me is a document

ashen warren
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The eye pearl is hella expensive compared to the crimson variant

vocal fulcrum
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Was there ever a suggestion to add another dungeon biom chest for rogue weapon thonk

ashen warren
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Yep

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Mine

queen delta
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We already got one tho

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And that weapon is really good

bitter drift
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show it

queen delta
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Just search for astral chest in wiki

vocal fulcrum
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Really? Ohhh

queen delta
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Only able to be opened after killing astrum deus

vocal fulcrum
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I was about to ask that because it fits perf haha

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Already in game or soon, never found one yet

queen delta
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Already in game

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Just keep looking

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Heavenfallen stardisk is the rogue weapon

vocal fulcrum
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sweating damn
Thanks for answering

bitter drift
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me too an i explored the entirety of my dungeon for it

ashen warren
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I made a astral chest suggestion before the update and it pretty much just got yeeted by one of the devs

bitter drift
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XD

ashen warren
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It was called the StarSlitter if you wanna search it up

bitter drift
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when you ask for criticism of you suggestion
and all you get is another suggestion talk

queen delta
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You should improve formatting in your docs

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Change alignment to left side, add bolding/italics for item names and recipes

bitter drift
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i copy it to there this made problems

ashen warren
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too long

bitter drift
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like everything ales i type there

ashen warren
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Also, killing summons just makes your weapon a magic weapon tbh

bitter drift
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but it take more skill then rapidly using the summon weapon or just avoiding attacks right

queen delta
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Pretty sure thats what summoners do

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Rather than fight the boss directly, it summons minions to do it for that person

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Calamity gave summoners the option to add some support like golden gun and lunic eye

bitter drift
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yes but this type of repetitive play style i think is what hurt the class as a hole and just for you to know they are homing you just need to summon them

ashen warren
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the one thing preventing the summoner class from being easy is the rartedness of the summoner AI

frosty kindle
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Summon AI is finicky, and quite often is a gamble

ashen warren
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When it clicks, it's pretty good, otherwise, ech

bitter drift
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so i guess this is another one of these Idea that goes to the box again

hollow shell
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In the message with the link, include a summary of what the doc includes, Adir

bitter drift
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5 new summons weapons this is the title what is wrong?

hollow shell
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True yeah but it's just common practice
It's odd to have a message in that channel with no text, just a link

bitter drift
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ah first time this happens to me

hollow shell
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Ah I see you've posted link-only stuff in the past
Sorry for not informing you then, I guess :P

bitter drift
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Ksweating sweating

hollow shell
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(And I assume the strange formatting in the Google Doc is a result of
language translation issues)

bitter drift
ashen warren
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Oh

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the character limit

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xd

bitter drift
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YEP

hollow shell
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Is Discord's text aligned to the right on your end?

bitter drift
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slobbyjoy slobbyjoy 👌🏻
only 2000 letters for a comment

ashen warren
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Basic idealio:
Make an accessory that randomly spawns target projectiles on enemies, if you kill the target, the you get a damage boost or cause some serious damage to the enemy which the target is assigned to

hollow shell
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Sounds maybe a bit annoying if you're trying to kill something specific and the target keeps ignoring it
but it would be an overall DPS boost

ashen warren
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I mean, eventually a target would spawn on it

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Maybe the chances would be boosted for bosses

hollow shell
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Or you could have it not apply to bosses to mercy you from the annoyance

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and also because
once it lands on the boss, it'll be on them for the rest of the fight
making it a straight damage boost with no gimmicks

ashen warren
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Oh, I meant the target disappears once you hit it or smth

hollow shell
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mmm yeah that could have been specified

ashen warren
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killing somehow didn't equate to being disappeared aaa

hollow shell
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wait it says "if you kill the target, you get a damage boost"

ashen warren
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or do some damage

hollow shell
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heck

ashen warren
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I can see it applying to ranger more often than not tho

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ech

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I wanted to see if I could make the idea more for rogue Stealth is in need of a replacement or enhancement tbh

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^

final glen
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Adir your Doc made my head hurt

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Not because your idea's are bad, it's because it's all on the right and I don't know why it gave me a headache

severe burrow
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Is the suggestion large enough to require a doc?

ashen warren
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Read the doc

severe burrow
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why is it all right aligned

ashen warren
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Transferring issues from discord to docs apparently

severe burrow
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.

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no?

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I've done some suggestions and ideas work for a few games

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so i can tell you that copy pasting text from discord to google docs doesn't cause any issues

ashen warren
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That was his explanation

severe burrow
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I'm pretty sure he pasted without formatting, else you wouldn't really be able to see the text

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unless he understood docs well enough to do formatting

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but then that begs the question as to why he wouldn't left or center align

hollow shell
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Don't quote me on this but I think his native language has text aligned on the right

severe burrow
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that usually coincides with a translation

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however, i didn't see any major faults in the English of the doc

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some spelling errors, but nothing that screams google translate

hollow shell
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@hybrid cloak ?

pliant bone
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@hybrid cloak
Atleast give a description on what it does.

hybrid cloak
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It will do like a normal spear

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when swung, it will shoot some homing dragon blast

hollow shell
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Okay
Give it a name, and also write how to obtain it, then edit it into your suggestion

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alongside that function you just said

ashen warren
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The formatting is also something else

hollow shell
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Oh, exo spear

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sure ok

vocal fulcrum
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Swinging spears? mood

frosty kindle
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say rover, how many exo weapons suggestions did we have total? or is that beyond count?

hollow shell
dusty stirrup
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Is it literally just named "Exo Spear"

ashen warren
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At least it's direct

hollow shell
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He called it Dragon Dust Spear or something, then changed it?

dusty stirrup
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wh

queen sail
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i've seen many exo weapon suggestions but this is a definite pass

ashen warren
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exo bullets when

queen sail
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@ashen warren somebody already did

frosty kindle
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exo chair gun is probably the most requested

queen sail
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probably because the elemental blaster goes to waste

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and not much guns for scal or yharon

ashen warren
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Onyxia

radiant meadow
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ele blaster isn't even a gun pretty sure daryl
just made with guns

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and there's plenty of guns for yharon

queen sail
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guess it's just scal then

radiant meadow
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just none for scal

dusty stirrup
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iirc only one of the blaster's components actually use bullets

queen sail
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literally the only things i'm expecting out of upcoming exo weapons is a gun and a yoyo

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because i want something better than nerfed azathot

ashen warren
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Exoyo sounds a bit sketchy

radiant meadow
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exo yoyo won't be better than azathoth

queen sail
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or something

ashen warren
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Of course it wont

dusty stirrup
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azathot will pretty much always be the best yoyo you can get

ashen warren
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Yea

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They just want it to be better than a hypothetical nerfed azathoth (Same weapon function, lower damage)

queen sail
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i would use it but the damage is relatively subpar in comparison to what it used to be

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old azathoth was straight up one of the most broken weapons in the game

dusty stirrup
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Which is why it got nerfed in the first place

queen sail
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i don't mind the dev weapons being broken really

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since you really have nothing else to do

dusty stirrup
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but BR exists

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The usability between them was really horrible

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Most of them were pretty subpar before their buffs (and only the yoyo got nerfed iirc)

ashen warren
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Svan was apparently really bad, while the Aza was opaf

queen sail
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by the time br becomes something legitimate rather than a bonus round the dev weapons would probably already be moved

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and besides

dusty stirrup
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They'll be post BR at some point

queen sail
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the nerf existed way before br was even a concept

dusty stirrup
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when Xeroc happens

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It had to get nerfed a second time lmao

queen sail
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also why does contagion exist

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like

dusty stirrup
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It's really good now

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and it's a dev weapon

ashen warren
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It was back when plague was cool

dusty stirrup
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Dev weps exist because a dev wanted a wep

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Also this has nothing to do with suggestions

hollow shell
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true facts
underpowered weapons should be buffed not existentially questioned

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and
that's true.

ashen warren
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weapons with no real reason to be there on the other hand...

hollow shell
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👀 fulguration...

ashen warren
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I was thinking ancient crusher but yeah that too

hollow shell
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Ancient Crusher at least does something

queen sail
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didn't fab say something about useless weapons being a necessity or is my memory jank

hollow shell
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I wouldn't doubt it

dusty stirrup
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What'd I just say smh

hollow shell
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There for contrast to make the cool shit seem cooler :P

queen sail
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:hmmm:

hollow shell
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and yes indeed yes I will flee

ashen warren
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oh yeah offtopic aaa

queen sail
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anyways time to yeet myself back to terraria

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and cross mod soa 1.1 with calmatiddies

elfin maple
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So they're adding plagued beehives? The PBG spawn seems like a good idea

ashen warren
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Nonono, the suggestions are purely requests

elfin maple
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Oh ok

ashen warren
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Most of this stuff doesn't get through

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You're welcome to try, though

elfin maple
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I do think that is a good idea though, definitely gets my star

dusty stirrup
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I'm pretty sure plaguenades are already someone's patreon request anyway

ashen warren
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aight, 'nother idea:
A projectile tool for flight that relies on self knockback for air-time, as it produces a projectile that can blast you away, with proximity deciding the air time. If timed right, it allows for near infinite flight, but you run the risk of extreme insta-kill fall damage. While being blasted, any and all negators of flight do not work (They merely reduce the fall damage), but the tool can be used to reset air time. Wings are rendered disabled for a short time after usage in order to prevent infinite wing use.

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Sound neat or?

hollow shell
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Damage buff is unnecessary
It's already resetting air time and granting you potentially infinite flight

ashen warren
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aight, anything else?

hollow shell
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I'm wondering if this could/should somehow be adapted into an accessory, which cannot be equipped at the same time as wings
So that you don't have wing workarounds for this alternative air movement

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I like the idea in general though
Sounds like it'd be interesting

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@thorny bay Nope. See the "Suggestion Donts" doc in pins. Removed content will not be re-added

thorny bay
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oh damn.

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Better work on an astrageldon mod then

ashen warren
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As an accessory, it wouldn't work without a corresponding weapon, as the blast is based off of a directional cursor input. Without the input, it's just Cloud inna Bottle

hollow shell
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I was thinking of something like
if you press Space when you're all out of jumps, it fires the projectile

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That might be too weird
but it might also work really well

ashen warren
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You'd have to jump first

hollow shell
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Indeed

ashen warren
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But yeah actually, that works well

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Jump to reposition, then fire

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On another note, that would need no ammo and do nothing to literally anything but you

hollow shell
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Probably wouldn't be hard to make
Buggy, potentially, but not super difficult

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Also what kind of projectile are we talking here?

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Does it get fired, travel a very short distance, then explode after half a second?

ashen warren
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Maybe just explodes off of walls

royal turtle
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probably explodes on walls and blocks

ashen warren
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Blocks

royal turtle
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floors

ashen warren
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Walls would be bad

royal turtle
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yeah blocks

ashen warren
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Imagine tryna navigate chasms and stuff

hollow shell
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So, rocketjumping then

ashen warren
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What

hollow shell
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If you're firing a projectile which explodes on blocks, and you get knocked back based on your proximity to it to travel great distances
it's rocketjumping

royal turtle
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yes

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rocket jump

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that or make it a machine gun jetpack

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less of a jump and more like the spectre boots flight

hollow shell
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I was thinking you'd be able to navigate in the air with it
and you could potentially fly infinitely or at least for a long time
at the cost of having less precise movement

royal turtle
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machine gun jetpack sounds like a better idea then

hollow shell
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what

royal turtle
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it's basically the rocket boots flight but it shoots bullets out of your feet

hollow shell
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That's

nah

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that's not what we're going for

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I think

royal turtle
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fair

ashen warren
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I just want something other than the MOAB to use to bounce around

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Also defiled memes

hollow shell
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s'not supposed to hurt enemies, s'just supposed to be an alternate method of movement

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yeah

royal turtle
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oh ok

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but yeah it's basically a rocket jump

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although it would have to damage the player at least a little bit for it to knock them back iirc

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which creates a problem with effects that break on any damage source

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like amidias' blessing

hollow shell
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Nah it wouldn't need to damage them
I could think of a way or two that the player could be launched without getting hurt

ashen warren
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I think just the fall damage enough is punishment for using the thing for infinifly

hollow shell
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having looked at tMod code a bit

royal turtle
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oh ok

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yeah i thought it would have to do at least 1 damage for it to work mechanically

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but apparently not

ashen warren
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I got a couple other ideas, but I gotta have some pacing

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So, yeah, rockets.

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Alright, I got an idea. Put it in the hook slot. If it functions like a normal, but simply blocked off to most items, slot, then it wouldn't be possible to put wings and the jumper on at the same time. You could also just have the accessory respond to the hook keybind

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Right?

hollow shell
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Alright so I was imagining something like Ori's Bash from Rivals of Aether
(where he grabs onto a projectile and can launch himself in a direction)
especially when combined with his attack where he throws a projectile
ex this clip:
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except with this item you probably wouldn't get to aim it
and would have to rely on
good timing and positioning

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And yeah you could have it be a hook as well
That seems like an accurate place to put it

ashen warren
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Two thingus left

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Where in the game should it be placed, and what as a suggested name

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Post Skeletron mayhaps?

hollow shell
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I was actually thinking mid-Hardmode
because this sounds pretty strong

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Maybe it could have an upgrade line

ashen warren
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How would you upgrade this any further other than no fall damage?

hollow shell
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Blast size, blast power, projectile firing cooldown
Maybe an early version actually would deal damage to you which gets removed in the upgrades

marsh gust
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@still wave why..

ashen warren
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Honestly, that's not really a joke or a meme, it's just...
Something unnecessary?

livid coral
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That is a dumb suggestion but it's also cute imagining it. But still a dumb suggestion

queen delta
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Okay that suggestion is odd but I'd love to see it so i starred it anyways

ashen warren
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I'll support

hollow shell
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I would like to see it implemented not going to lie

Maybe it would only be active after you kill it once so as to not spoil the mood of the first fight

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Still Daler you should add a reason to that suggestion
Its shortness bothers me

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"Some cute fun-ness" or whatever

queen delta
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cricket noises

ashen warren
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He just said that and ran, didn't he

marsh gust
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imo, at that point youd probably have torrential tear and it'll just be a fun gimmick no one will see until they hear about it so ye

hollow shell
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No he's still here, he just isn't responding to the ping because of some enigmatic reason that I am unaware of which causes people to not immediately respond to pings unlike me

queen delta
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I kinda do it too

marsh gust
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some people just dont respond to pings at all daryl oh well what can we do

queen delta
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Sometimes I just feel hungry or gotta go to the bathroom, but would do this one thing anyways

still wave
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we good

queen delta
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Epic suggestion

marsh gust
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nice

novel pebble
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Add a reason

queen delta
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y the fuk not

ashen warren
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It doesn't have to be anything complex

mossy parcel
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its just a fun addition, no harm

ashen warren
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exactly, but rules are rules

still wave
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we good x2

ashen warren
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Very nice

hollow shell
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Cool thanks

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I was thinking more about the sunglasses sun than the duck sound but that is also an apt comparison

smoky wagon
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It read human dick sound at first

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I was very confused

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ngl

ashen warren
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The Filthy Mind

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@still wave thats a cool idea, maybe like if you kill the slime god core and the slime god in general you can get fabsol's umbrella which acts just like a umbrella but is colored differently

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Deflects all projectiles

arctic tapir
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Don’t have revengance rune, just check for r/a @slate crown

ashen warren
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Defiled and so on is a valid concern.

slate crown
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yeah

ashen warren
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Maybe only visible from the inventory layout

slate crown
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maybe having revengence/death could display a badge on char select screen thonk

marsh gust
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adren/rage bars tho

arctic tapir
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Doesn’t show if you have death or defiled

ashen warren
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Or arma

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Unless you activate them

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But yes, I support

severe burrow
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what if the different mode runes changed the color of your inventory/toolbar?

hollow shell
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One billion stars I have wanted this for so long

severe burrow
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rev wouldn't change the color of your stuff since it's made obvious by the bars

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but death, defiled, and arma would all change the color

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having multiple activated would make a new color

radiant meadow
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what if you disable the bars? HyperFailure

severe burrow
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i mean

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why would you do that

novel pebble
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Or just a little logo when you open inv

severe burrow
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if you turn off the bars

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i think knowing what mode your in isn't of any concern to you

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since you probably aren't going to be changing it later

ashen warren
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Oh god more worm minion memes

green ruin
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@ashen warren doesn't are good

proven tide
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@ashen warren Edit that into the previous post?

ashen warren
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ah?

radiant meadow
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they work for me in my experience GWaobloChildPepeShrug

green ruin
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I don't think he englishes very well

ashen warren
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im still learning

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so, dont judge me

green ruin
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No judgement here, bro

ashen warren
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ok

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if i have time, i would draw these minions

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Nah, that's alright

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We can see what you mean fine

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At least I can

radiant meadow
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edit the 2nd message into the 1st post though

hollow shell
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^

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yeah you gotta merge those

severe burrow
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no multi-message mayhem blease

ashen warren
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done

hollow shell
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Thank you sir

radiant meadow
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use shift enter HDhurdur

ashen warren
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ah

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i didn't noticed it

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what do you think about?

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my suggest

hollow shell
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Definitely more creative than Dank Staff and Blood Clot Staff

gloomy hazel
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I fully agree with the fact that these summon weapons are bad

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I've tried them when I began my Calamity world

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and they're UP

ashen warren
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it was planed the last thursday

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but i didn't posted

gloomy hazel
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clearly not as good as the Herring Staff

radiant meadow
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that's because herring staff is post skeletron

dusty stirrup
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lol

radiant meadow
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dank/blood clot is post hm/perfs which are pre skeletron

gloomy hazel
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But isn't the Perforator supposed to be post-Skeletron?

ashen warren
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no

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is pre-queen bee

gloomy hazel
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What? And I thought it was much harder to kill than Skeletron! I legit killed Skeletron with less than 300 max hp

ashen warren
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look right

radiant meadow
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different bosses play to different players' strengths

hollow shell
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I've always had an easier time with Perfs than Skeletron, in my experience

proven tide
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^^

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For me DoG normal took 600+ tries (this was immediately after he got his second phase, back in november 2017 or thereabouts) and then I went on to Yharon Rev, who took 4.

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Different bosses, different strengths

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ngl 600 dog tries was actually the most fun I've had in any game, I fucking love the experience

gloomy hazel
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It took me only one attempt to kill the DoG, and I even recorded it

proven tide
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pity there are so many broken-ass weapons to vore him now

hollow shell
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(There's a suggestions channel right above this one where you can suggest nerfs 👀)

proven tide
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at the time I had to multiclass heavily to have even a chance and now you can vanquish his ass in dozens of seconds pain

radiant meadow
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at this point, we're getting a bit off topic HDfailure

gloomy hazel
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Mmh...

proven tide
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if I suggest a valediction nerf I'll get eaten alive

hollow shell
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Probably not, if you provide good reasoning for it

proven tide
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also last prism works on DoG and that can decimate him in thirty seconds

hollow shell
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Last Prism or Dark Spark?

radiant meadow
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last prism has been nerfed

proven tide
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oh thank god

radiant meadow
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and it's quite bad for doggo lol

hollow shell
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-15% damage

gloomy hazel
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now that I think about it, I'd like to see some hardmode/post-ML evil bosses. The Brain of Cthulhu, the Eater of World, the Perforator, the Hive Mind, they're cool to fight but they're only pre-hardmode bosses and there's no other evil boss after them

hollow shell
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Well
no boss suggestions

proven tide
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^

gloomy hazel
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grumble

hollow shell
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Minibosses are fair game

proven tide
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even if they're beyond boss strength

radiant meadow
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there's not exactly any meaningful place to put a hm boss anyways tbh

proven tide
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^

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HM is cluttered as all balls and by the time you've gotten one weapon it's outclassed one boss later anyway

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PHM is a short experience but it's hard to make any of it meaningful

gloomy hazel
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Then if there's no boss suggestion, I guess there won't be any Yharim or Draedon

proven tide
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that's not how that works

hollow shell
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I was boutta say the same thing

proven tide
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The new bosses are all determined by the devs

hollow shell
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ye
Yharim, Draedon, Goozma, and Xeroc have been confirmed

proven tide
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It's not 'no more bosses' it's 'no community boss ideas'

gloomy hazel
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and what happens after they make all the bosses of their lore?

hollow shell
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Uh we make our own game

proven tide
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^

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kek

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ultimately the only place really fit for expansion is PML and that's set by the devs

ashen warren
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They either stop making bosses and polish into a saleable product or quit

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Then Relogic sues them

livid coral
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We can't make this mod saleable lol

proven tide
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Distance themselves as much from Relogic as possible

hollow shell
gloomy hazel
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let's keep that serious please

proven tide
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You could make a game out of this ngl

livid coral
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I'm gonna eventually split off and make my own dumb game.

proven tide
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TOPIC TIME

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As it is now DoG is a joke in Rev+, ironically

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Adren/Rage means he loses health in the many many thousands in seconds

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question is how to make him feel like a real grueling fight without making him boring and tedious as balls

hollow shell
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Question
Are you sure it's not because you're really good at fighting DoG after having fought him literally hundreds of times

proven tide
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I'm still really bad

hollow shell
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🤔

gloomy hazel
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simply make the body sections intouchable and let the head and tail vulnerable like the Eidolon

ashen warren
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its difficult

proven tide
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no no no no no

gloomy hazel
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and reduce his health in return

proven tide
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no no no

gloomy hazel
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...

ashen warren
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yes

hollow shell
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iirc it was like that in the past but it was changed to be the current high-DR body system

ashen warren
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he spawns and he killed me 9 seconds after summoning

proven tide
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^^

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folks would have an aneurysm

gloomy hazel
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Or maybe remove 4 or 6 body segments

hollow shell
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Body segments barely contribute at all to your DPS against DoG

proven tide
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That makes absolutely no difference, yeah

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99% DR 😐

severe burrow
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uh DoG is not easy at all

hollow shell
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Literally reduces damage by over 90%

ashen warren
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but it would be old storm weaver

radiant meadow
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body segments are like a meat shield

hollow shell
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not 99%
s'more like 92

proven tide
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Ah

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Neat

radiant meadow
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making them intangible would buff weapons like calamari's lament by a ton

severe burrow
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yes

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homing projectiles always would hit the head

radiant meadow
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on top of reducing doggo's hp GWqlabsHyperSweats

proven tide
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^

gloomy hazel
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I've given my suggestions for your DoG problem

proven tide
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Thanks for the input