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#suggestions-discussion
bitter drift
zenith hazel
cloud in a bottle rogue weapon xd
bitter drift
no the accessory
bitter drift
mandible bow or litterly ANYTHING even the short sword
cyan coral
Hive mind is annoying,the fight takes too much long for nothing
i'm a crimson boy anyway
zenith hazel
fighting hive mind with a short sword is way too ludicrous to be real
bitter drift
i know
ashen warren
Record it then.
bitter drift
but i didn't copper i meant platinum
ashen warren
You're currently spouting bullshit at this point.
zenith hazel
still ludicrous
bitter drift
yes i agree
bitter drift
this is why i want it buffed
radiant meadow
death hive mind is fine
bitter drift
nope
zenith hazel
if you can kill it with a shortsword with video proof then we may believe it's "too easy"
radiant meadow
except like the other mode hive minds are so boring in comparison aaaaa
ashen warren
When do we let rev hive mind rain,.,.,.
cyan coral
let's talk about the video where someone fight Wof with a plat shortsword
zenith hazel
crabbu
ashen warren
Lets not, as that's offtopic and a mod is here.
zenith hazel
point is, hive mind is good as it is already
cyan coral
annoying still
if i'm correct,he get armor when he does something that he does litterally everytime
bitter drift
yes annoying
to kill
zenith hazel
maybe not kill it with a shortsword then
ashen warren
I think he's baiting at this point.
zenith hazel
or use a weapon better than a mandible bow
bitter drift
no it's too easy
radiant meadow
for death hive mind, it's not too difficult once you understand the attack pattern, but if you don't know it, hive mind can beat you up pretty badly
cyan coral
Molten boy is gud
zenith hazel
hey hec
teal ibex
even if this isn't a bait why bother suggesting something if you're not gonna give literally any concrete evidence or information as to why your point is relevant 
ashen warren
Hive mind is a boss that people complain about in help.
Unless you can provide anything definitive your opinion is invalid.
zenith hazel
might as well buff birb because it's also easy and annoying to kill
ashen warren
Didn't someone need like 30 tries to kill birb?
bitter drift
no it is annoying the birb is trasg
zenith hazel
yeah lol
ashen warren
The pre-provi one.
ashen warren
Fragmenting and elitism, lovely.
Well I can see that this isn't going anywhere.
bitter drift
still if i could buff the hivemind i will buff it's speed to slow damage is lacking to but speed will make up to that
zenith hazel
buff speed to slow
...what
if it's slow and its damage is "lacking" then it just got a nerf
bitter drift
all speed attack speed movements speed both of them should be buffed at hivemind
i said it's attacks is lacking but the speed will make up to that
royal turtle
it's not exactly a fast boss
though it makes up for that with the creepers
which are fast as fuck
bitter drift
no i kill them fast and if don't just hit them
when you hit the creepers they stop and take time to dash again
teal ibex
i don't see the issues at all
hive mind is a boss that capitalizes on your mistakes, more than anything else
the more you fight the boss, the less mistakes you make, and the easier it becomes
at that point, yes, hive mind becomes easy for you
does that mean he needs a buff? no, because he's still a challenge for players that face him initially.
radiant meadow
you could say that too a lot of bosses honestly
I've seen many people call doggo easy
teal ibex
learning a boss and becoming excellent at fighting it does not mean that there is suddenly some inherent imbalance, it means that you've determined a way to defeat the boss consistently
and that's good design
strange patio
Agreed
radiant meadow
a boss should not be inherently unfair and punish you every single time even without any slipups
ashen warren
As I said before.
"Try and separate skill and difficulty."
cyan coral
Birb,is annoying because he rushes u
lost agate
eh not really
cyan coral
uh
everytime i fought him,he was like choochoo and couldn't even do anything,he was too fast for me
lost agate
What annoys me is the fact he randomly bumps the floor for like an a minute and as such it was hard to hit him well
lilac fjord
he do be like choochoo though
lost agate
And about the dashes, you can dodge them by circling "agressively"
Aka, not big circles and dash a lot while doing so
Just gotta react to when he decides to dash at you from the side
lilac fjord
just insult the boss in chat whilst circling.
lost agate
I know cuz i died to him a lot while nohitting because he wouldnt stop bumping the ground
hollow shell
@bitter drift I know you had a big argument about it, but add some specific proposed buffs to your suggestion and it'll be valid
Right now its too nonspecific
cyan coral
my glass cannon builds kinda shrekt him,so i didn't care after
pliant bone
Exfuckingscuse me?
lost agate
Thats a mood
worthy fiber
@dense oriole They'll be added when they're sprited
dense oriole
cool
strong yew
Any reasons to add them masks?
worthy fiber
Masks are good iirc
dense oriole
polterghast is already "fast"
more than plantera.
maybe little bit slow, but you can hit him with some weapons which pierce walls
ashen warren
I guess I just saw Polterghast P1 a little too easy. I can breeze right through it and get to P3 in no time
bitter drift
in the first phase i kind of agree not in the others
bitter drift
k also what is this new exclamation mark in suggestions
strong yew
Check the pinned messages.
bitter drift
where?
strong yew
bitter drift
no worry
strong yew
Polterghast is already hard and it depends on what arena you are actually using iirc.
bitter drift
agreed
also out of topic for a sec
o got this new way of a HOTE "remake" is it still banned
and by remake i mean upgrade
P.S i hate that you have to press shift as well as enter to make a new level confusing as hell
ashen warren
You get used to using shift if you capitalize.
Cause shift + character makes it biggo, the enter thing isn't anything extraordinary.
bitter drift
no it's confusing
to go down a level i have to press enter NOT SHIFT AND ENTER
also why are we talking about the P.S
hollow shell
"banned"?
bitter drift
you know suggestions of the heart of the elementals are kind of not allowed
hollow shell
Well that's only is you do more waifu-y sexy whatever stuff
If you have a legitimate functional upgrade it should be allowed.
hollow shell
Might as well send it here then we can judge for real
Here as in this channel, suggestions_discussion
bitter drift
so in my "side story" (starting from prov's death all the way to the abyss post portalgiest
oops
ashen warren
Did I read something about the Waifu's being replaced?
No grammar, capitalizing, or formatting.
That's gotta be a yikes from me.
worthy fiber
It's worthless if we can't understand it
frail mantle
^
teal ibex
THIS IS THE FIRST PART 
bitter drift
soon be back
ashen warren
4 brothers is d mode exclusive, but yeah I agree.
forgot to mention but yeah I was talking about DM
frail mantle
ok
hearty spade
He bacc
placid moth
I am confused.
frail mantle
wait, are you suggesting a boss?
but a part of your suggestion is a new boss
you're not allowed to suggest new bosses though
placid moth
I'd suggest you format them a little better, separate your ideas and paragraph them
frail mantle
it's sorta messy, kinda hard to understand what the different parts of your suggestion means
zenith hazel
do we really need a third plantera boss though?
placid moth
^good point
zenith hazel
one more and it’ll end up like the whole worm boss meme
zenith hazel
plant ore is literally uelibloom ore
noble turret
perennial
zenith hazel
there’s gonna be an oasis biome anyway in vanilla 1.3.6
perennial/chlorophyte/uelibloom
we don’t need 4 plant ores
noble turret
uelibloom is tree bark ore
frail mantle
what i can understand so far: there's a new drop from the GSS. this item creates an oasis biome in your desert. there's an item created with lots of plant shit. this item can kill the Dryad, after which she can't respawn. after killing the Dryad, you can fight a new bootleg Plantera, which lets an "improved dryad" spawn. this "improved dryad" sells an item which is just one part of a new HotE upgrade.
zenith hazel
plantera is dumb
placid moth
why would the GSS do that lmao
zenith hazel
or get the bloom stone which is literally the same concept
frail mantle
but your lore isn't the official lore though
zenith hazel
plants
noble turret
and the new dryads name is silva yes?
zenith hazel
yeah but silva has nothing to do with oasis
bitter drift
idk (yet to come up with name for the new NPC)
zenith hazel
she’s like 10 feet down in the abyss
noble turret
uhh
frail mantle
if all the parts are gonna be this big they'd be better off in a doc
tired haven
^
zenith hazel
but why are you posting a separate non-canon lore
but why post it in public knowing it will not get accepted?
frail mantle
but why are you adding lore to the idea when the lore you wrote doesn't really feel like it'd feel in place with the rest of calamity lore
zenith hazel
^
royal turtle
^
bitter drift
so you know NVM of my entire idea 😥
this was kinda expected
I'll delete the comments
ornate pecan
bitter drift
sadly agree
frail mantle
^
gusty geode
I kinda like the idea of there only being two brothers spawned throughout the fight, but they're both invulnerable
weary seal
@bitter topaz Gotcha
bitter drift
so what did you want to say?
weary seal
An individual stated a suggestion saying Ancient Bone Dust should be available from certain other skeletal mobs. I disagree because of the ease of creating spawn rate potions, making Ancient Bone Dust trivial if you sit underground and use one, farming skeletons until you get enough to make your mining accessory(ies). I had 6 pre hardmode, before Wall of Flesh. If you mine enough silt, you get what you want.
bitter drift
doesn't ancient bone ash used for 2 things
weary seal
I think it is, but the main use is for the mining accessory, so I assume.
And also the Ancient Bone dust already drops from 4 different mobs.
royal turtle
zerg potions are pretty hard to make prehardmode though
bitter drift
yes this won't be as bad as we thought
royal turtle
don't blood orbs drop from any enemy but only during a blood moon or something?
and prehardmode you need blood orbs to make zerg potions
weary seal
Blood drops from any enemy only during a blood moon yes.
bitter drift
so there is not much use for zerg at pre hard mode
weary seal
If you take your 12 minutes and use it all to farm blood? You end up with like 100. Enough to make 2 zerg potions I believe.
bitter drift
XD AGREED
weary seal
So I disagree personally that Ancient Bone Dust should drop from extra mobs. I think it's fine as it is.
royal turtle
i didn't get nearly that many, but i'm early prehardmode so maybe i just couldn't kill enough
fervent zealot
it's not that widely used so it doesn't need many sources
bitter drift
post moon lord farming for blood the entire moon
get only 65 blood
livid coral
phm bone dust is tough to get
weary seal
Did you use a zerg potion the first chance you could make one during your Blood Moon?
bitter drift
yes
royal turtle
no
weary seal
If you did, and still only got 65 blood Idk man. Kill shit faster idk xD
royal turtle
i did have a battle potion and a water candle but i don't think i got enough blood for zerg
weary seal
Beeenades XD
royal turtle
i'll try that though
bitter drift
every 10 enemies i killed dropped 1 blood so guess how many i killed
royal turtle
what's the enemy spawn rate multiplier with water candle, battle potion, and zerg potion?
weary seal
I farm blood from first bloodmoon, get a zerg, use it on same blood moon with like 6 7 minutes left, spam beenades from my roof top.
Battle potion and Zerg potion don't stack I don't thinik
But the Water Candle does
royal turtle
oof
weary seal
Water candle is 1.5x spawn rate I believe.
queen sail
Imagine actually struggling to get Ancient Bone Dust
bitter drift
also i going to post a new rogue weapons now
weary seal
Yea. Don't make Ancient Bone Dust easier to get. It's not a struggle.
It has 2 uses anyways AND already drops from 4 different mobs. Go pop a spawn rate potion and farm for 10 minutes you'll get the 2 ABD you need.
bitter topaz
^
include when you get it, not the stats unless it's very relevant to the balancing of the weapon
queen sail
You can include em in your suggestions if you want but chances are, if they get in, they won’t be the stats you put in
bitter topaz
and for relevant i mean p90 tier of "needed for balance"
bitter drift
all of them you get mostly at the start you can blow up obsidian and mine stone and marble but for the heavy work bench you will probably need a grav pot
lost agate
Or craft it yourself
bitter drift
but they are mostly slow
also i got a new rogue accessory but i won't put it yet or i will probably get banned
royal turtle
how long should i wait before i rewrite an old suggestion and resubmit?
am i not supposed to resubmit old suggestions?
worthy fiber
You can resubmit after a week iirc
royal turtle
it was a week ago yesterday
i'll think about rewriting and resubmitting it
i'll post the old version here to see if it's even something people want
Obtained either from Abyss chests or possibly from a rare drop in the Sunken Sea
Acts similarly to the Archerfish, being less damaging but faster than its longer counterpart
Purpose: It's a cool pun, and it's a neat sidegrade to an already good weapon
now that I think about it it should probably be sourced from the Sunken Sea, since the Abyss already has plenty of loot and the SS does not
maybe a drop from Giant Clam?
giant clam is relatively early HM, so it might need some tweaks rather than being comparable to Archerfish
bitter drift
me like this idea
void kelp
I think it’ll work as an early HM weapon crafted w like... some ocean drops and clam shell?
radiant meadow
bleeding debuff doesn't do anything to enemies
why does flame scythe inflict it? I have no idea
hollow shell
According to Terraria wiki, it deals DoT due to their lack of natural regen
radiant meadow
it does? 
I thought I saw it say it didn't do anything
hollow shell
It is only possible to inflict Bleeding in vanilla terraria on the Mobile and 3DS versions cuz of Tizona
so it's possible that's not programmed into the desktop version
radiant meadow
ye, I thought it said on the Tizona page that bleeding didn't do anything 
hollow shell
nah
radiant meadow
Time to check history of the page
bitter drift
then what is a better debuff (the reason i picked bleed is when you throw a rock on someone's head it will probably bleed and die)
radiant meadow
burning blood?
hollow shell
Burning Blood also doesn't affect enemies
bitter drift
how
bitter drift
i want to damage them like do you remember at school the teachers say if you hit someone with a rock they will bleed an die
bitter drift
no i mean with a debuff like bleeding in real life
maybe broken armor ? if one hit to the head was hard the 2nd will be stronger no?
radiant meadow
okay, checked history of the tizona page and found it said that it didn't do anything in the past
bitter drift
i'll go broken armor
hollow shell
Alright
bitter drift
also i got this accessory can't post it yet because i will be flagged as spam
the idea is like how young kids play with rocks next to lakes as the longer you hold the attack button the faster you attack and less accurate you are
ashen warren
tf
ashen warren
@radiant meadow sorry wrong chat. but i had no idea what it was
radiant meadow
well, it's not a bug either
gloomy hazel
It's a feature, nothing to worry about
limber oxide
radiant meadow
can you please not?
cyan coral
i believe there is oof
spiral olive
i think you're in the wrong chat sir
radiant meadow
this isn't the place to ask
steady cloud
where?
radiant meadow
go ask in #general-talk or something
cyan coral
Ask this in discord's official discord insteand of calamity mods suggestions channel
radiant meadow
^ or that
steady cloud
okey
radiant meadow
that sounds grossly overpowered
void kelp
ngl why another helmet
hollow shell
I mean almost all of the set bonus stuff is normal Auric
However combining all of the class effects would be beyond nuts
radiant meadow
well, he listed them as set bonuses
which sounds like it's on top of what the chestplate and leggings already give
and ye, combining the helms would be bonkers
+the extra dr
ashen warren
that powerful armor looks good but makes the game so easy
i prefer demon shade
@arctic tapir mmm not bad
void kelp
what would be the spawn conditions?
arctic tapir
I already put them
ashen warren
but its deathmode exclusive
arctic tapir
I would suggest more but most bosses are biome locked or just wouldnt work
Ooh, maybe
radiant meadow
"This is going to be a strange day" but spawned at night?
void kelp
ehhh the “something is approaching” is deathmode exclusive but
radiant meadow
"Allow certain calamity bosses to be naturally spawned some nights"
arctic tapir
oop
void kelp
“You feel an evil presence watching you” is vanilla, as are the natural spawns for mech bosses
radiant meadow
and ye, "something is approaching..." feature exists
ashen warren
for slime god, u need 300 hp, at least 3 abyss chests has been open, and survive a slime rain
i guess
@arctic tapir
void kelp
post-skeletron is good enough
worn citrus
I’d say swap Abyss chests for having X defense given the Abyss is pretty optional
void kelp
I’d say the parameters need to be more specific, like the EoC and mech boss natural spawn parameters
ashen warren
slime king also
worn citrus
Ideas:
Skeleton must have been defeated
300 HP Minimum
About 20-25 Defense
Morning Message: Slime is seeping from the ground
ashen warren
im agree
worn citrus
Also, I think “The Sky is blazing with hellfire...” would be a better announcement fore Cloneamatis
Hellfire and Brimstone*
void kelp
or “Tonight is going to be a terrible night...” since that’s what the eye of desolation says
gusty geode
as if she wasn't ripping off the twins enough 
void kelp
maybe slime god could spawn in place of king slime in hardmode?
elfin maple
ashen warren
and in hardmode, in slime rain also spawns irradiate slimes
zenith hazel
irradiated slimes are supposed to spawn post-ml though
worn citrus
Cryo slimes then?
ashen warren
em, every hardmode slime but no loot except gel
sleek wadi
How about having ore slimes added to the Slime Rain whenever they're unlocked?
quick dove
strange patio
Maybe up the spawn rates of mobs in those events? Because i always feel that they should be a challenge
worn citrus
Slime rain specifically could add some new varieties of spiked slimes perhaps?
ashen warren
like brimstone, holyfire, cosmic, abyssal, flame and supreme brimstone(exclusive of Scal)
Whoopsy, I smell an illegal suggestion
spring stirrup
oh sorry then
sinful swallow
baba is behind you
bitter drift
i got one problem with this
the dues one should be "the infection is growing"
bitter drift
hi
do you know there isn't an upgraded slime rain so slime god can't spawn like that
zenith hazel
slime god used to spawn like that
bitter drift
at a slime rain not an upgraded one like in the suggestion
but how about a slime rain upgrade suggestion?
pliant bone
Tbh, put effort in making it if so
bitter drift
yes in the right circumstances
like post skeletron
a weapon that does more them 750 DPS
I'll think of a way
zenith hazel
is 750 dps a bit too much for post skele?
if so you can probably murder WoF in less than a minute?
frail mantle
i mean, i think Amidias' Trident might get 750 dps on Woffle
zenith hazel
yeah but isn’t 1 minute wall a bit too much?
sinful violet
this better be ironic
bitter drift
no any 750 DPS if you ever got that much DPS and post skeletron you will be able to get this event
also mow i need to copy and paste the doc on an iPhone YAY
pls help
how do i copy paste on the Phone
zenith hazel
that’s way too much just for an event
lemme take that back, way too much for sth like slime god
worthy fiber
share it on a Google Doc instead mate
sinful violet
On the upper right part, there should be a "share with link" button
bitter drift
look ma i didit
marsh gust
bitter drift
yes i miss wrote and no I'm not going to fix it and i do know how
dusty stirrup
You really need to make your suggestions clearer
This is giving me a headache
So like... what use would this have @bitter drift
zenith hazel
a drought would fit more with providence imo
dusty stirrup
I see no purpose in an improved slime rain
bitter drift
i feel like this is the only part of terraria that calamity didn't touch and this is a way to what i think is improving it
dusty stirrup
Ok but you didn't add any drops
sinful violet
cough hack wheeze lung frost legion
marsh gust
frost legion 
sinful violet
what's that
worthy fiber
exactly
bitter drift
I'm talking about the slime rain specifically
worthy raptor
also radioactive slime would kind of clash with the already-existing irradiated slime
frail urchin
^
zenith hazel
goblin army and pirates didn’t change much either, just new weapons/accessories
worthy fiber
It's that Christmas-exclusive event with the mafia snowmen
dusty stirrup
Ok but your suggestion is basically just adding useless stuff to slime rain
You get nothing out of it
And don't tell me spawning slime god, because you can easily make a summon
bitter drift
if you want to add stuff to the suggestion post it here i can't talk now school started
dusty stirrup
You should've developped the suggestion more before posting it then
Atleast wait until school is over
In fact I'll just remove it from the suggestion channel for now since it's basically unfinished
You may repost it later if you actually finish it
earnest raptor
Recipe for Cosmilite Bar:
1 Armored Shell @ 1 bar, Draedon's Forge
Why:
- Storm Weaver have a same armor, as DoG, according to lore.
- Farming SW is much easier, that DoG.
Any ideas?
dusty stirrup
Cosmolite'll get another way of farming sometime in the future
pliant bone
Reason? @dense oriole
dense oriole
Slime to Everyone!
pliant bone
bitter drift
here better then the last one
ashen warren
g o d
bitter drift
i have upgrade for the upgrades
zenith hazel
but why does this event need to exist when slime god is like right there?
zenith hazel
yeah but slime god already exists at that point for gel-like weapons
pliant bone
Actually, King slime does come out for no reason if the conditions are right (not slime rain)
bitter drift
plus it an even an upgrade to the slime rain no? and as i said i have upgrades for these upgrades
zenith hazel
question is why overcomplicate spawning slime god with this event when you can just spawn him in naturally?
besides, from what i can tell, slimy chunk is just a version of purified gel
bitter drift
kinda agree on the last thing
but this suppose to give some love to the slime rain and what do you do to give some affection to an event
MORE WEAPON ENEMIES DROPS make it balanced also I NEVER GOTTEN A SLIME RAIN PRE HARD MODE AND IN HARD MODE IN MY LIFE every time it is post moon lord
signal ibex
A godslayer flamethrower would be nice.
zenith hazel
cleansing blaze?
bitter drift
there is one
signal ibex
awh i forgot that existed
zenith hazel
i just don't think a new slime rain is necessary because
- slime god already has a simple way of spawning
- the slime god fight is already a slime rain in itself
- we're fighting slimes, ffs
maybe that's just me but eh
bitter drift
for me it's just you I'm giving the event what they deserve in calamity status
pliant bone
You know how they hate coding events right
signal ibex
welp that explains the lack of events in this mod.
ashen warren
bitter drift
🧠🐷
zenith hazel
pirates are just there, they have nothing to do with the lore, why change the event?
bitter drift
because of logic
is a giant beast that eat humans mainly pirates is dead wouldn't the pirates invade the island it was protecting with a heavier force because they can
pliant bone
Grammar?
zenith hazel
and where did you get that from?
bitter drift
my mind and lavayathin's lore
zenith hazel
and i don't understand where you're coming from either
bitter drift
israel
zenith hazel
...
bitter drift
wot
zenith hazel
lemme rephrase that, i don't understand what your logic means
like why would pirates invade something they were protecting?
bitter drift
ah i thought another thing
in the lavayathin lore it state that she eat humans right
zenith hazel
it's leviathan but ok
bitter drift
so do you agree with me that pirates will be mostly on the beach not sulfer sea
zenith hazel
yes that's obvious
bitter drift
so wouldn't the leviathan attack them
and the pirates look at this as protecting the island
bitter drift
cuz I'm on phone it's like that
hollow shell
I'd think it'd be easier to make a Google Doc than a .docx on a phone but iunno
pliant bone
It is
bitter drift
no it started at doc and written there
pliant bone
It is hell using the ms word app on mobile than using goodle docs on mobile.
bitter drift
@zenith hazel so wouldn't the leviathan attack the pirates and would the pirates look at it as the beast protecting the island
zenith hazel
...ok your story somewhat makes sense from a certain point of view
but the argument still stands, events are unlikely to be coded
bitter drift
yes but if you don't try you can't succeed and if you fail try again the path to success is filled with failure
bitter drift
i'm reposting the slime event
worthy fiber
@royal turtle Check out the Calamity's Vanities mod
royal turtle
yeah i know
but those ones don't actually do anything
other than cosmetic effects
worthy fiber
Well then suggest there 
There's no point making it in this mod when they already exist there
ashen warren
you can use the actual siren's heart with that stuff in the vanity slot, you get the same thing
royal turtle
yeah i guess
bitter drift
i have a better idea
make more then 2 siren hearts all the same sprite with different colors and a different effect
like a red one can be hunter from the sulfurous sea
a blue onw can be a light giver
a green torques one can be spelunker effect
a black one will probably be danger sense
#not-everything-i-said-here-must-be #it's-just-examples
lost agate
Oh god slime rains happening more often
Theyre quite literally just an annoyance after you kill KS
And since zen doesnt affect the spawning of those then youre fucked
dense oriole
How about PBG spawns after kill enough plague bringer?
Like polter
And well, almost event is just annoying in later.
queen sail
Literally all i do to get rid of slime rain is either A) Use the slime rain potion from reduced grinding B) Spawn and kill King Slime
dense oriole
So i suggest a day ago, make ore slime rain in slime rain
It will be good ore source
lost agate
Yeah but thats a separate suggestoon
dense oriole
Hmmmmmm
lost agate
and both of them are kinda vague
dense oriole
Slime to everyone!
hollow shell
I know I'm late on it, but could you add a reason to your ore slime suggestion from a few hours ago?
It's relatively self-explanatory but its shortness its bothering me
lost agate
Not to mention your "make slime rain appear more often" has no reason to exist in its own
dense oriole
In HM, cavern has a lot of new enemies, including ore slimes, but We die a lot of time in cavern so with lil event we can farm ores!
hollow shell
Aight
Edit the suggestion to include that
dense oriole
Copy paste?
bitter drift
i already suggested an upgraded slime rain
zenith hazel
what’s with slime rain suggestions today
pliant bone
I have no idea.
bitter drift
agreed
bitter drift
even tho they never appear
zenith hazel
yeah slime rains are actually unnecessary when you have a king slime summoner upon starting a new world
pliant bone
@bitter drift You think they never appear for me?
They appear to me at the worst time.
zenith hazel
same
frail urchin
I mean, free hearts? 
pliant bone
I mean, lose adrenaline?
zenith hazel
“oh hey you’re fighting a worm that’s capable of ripping holes in our universe? let’s jump in!”
bitter drift
i played 3 play throws in a row without a single slime rain now it's my 4th without one
zenith hazel
boss fight: exists
slimes: let’s just jump into it
it’s like a blood moon but bearable
and less useful
pliant bone
Yeah for some reason, events bypass zen effects so those things happens
zenith hazel
like waaay less useful
smoky wagon
Slime rain spawns work differently than others in the game
they still spawn near npc villages
bitter drift
no joke the only time i got a slime rain in modded is in a MOONLORD FIGHT
pliant bone
They dont spawn near npc villages afaik?
pliant bone
They still spawn outside npc villages wdym
smoky wagon
What im saying is that calamities config to disable mob spawns in npc villages doesnt affect slime rain
like it does to other events
pliant bone
Ah maybe because they dont really spawn near npc villages at all unlike other events
They spawn wherever they like
smoky wagon
slime rain is universal spawns across the entire world
pliant bone
Yeah basically
bitter drift
what are the chances my upgraded post skeletron slime rain event will pass
pliant bone
Improbable prob.
bitter drift
😥
pliant bone
It has been suggested in the past too and they werent accepted
Still doesnt stop you from suggesting it tho so goodluck
bitter drift
no just look at the document i posted it isn't like changing the current slime rain with status
new enemies drops weapons this is my suggestion
also i have the idea of buffed pirate invasion post leviathan what do you think?
ashen warren
just suggest them in a later day
ashen warren
3 suggestions in 1 day is an overkill
And might get u not suggesting things if u keep up
bitter drift
this is my only suggestion i posted today the others were yesterday
zenith hazel
yeah but timezones are weird
bitter drift
well this is bull💩
zenith hazel
honestly there are way too many events already
the events get buffed because they’re somewhat related to lore and they contain materials for endgame tier items
unless the endgame tools get their recipes changed somehow, another buffed event seems unnecessary
queen delta
Yeah was never a fan of slime rain
Its such a boring and stupid event and gets your house cluttered with gel
ashen warren
its more of an annoyance than a exciting event tbh
much like the goblins but they only serve 1 purpose
queen delta
The only good events are old ones army and the frost/pumpkin moon
ashen warren
but ooa is bugged so idc
queen delta
And all 3 only happen with your control
gusty geode
I thought the holiday moons started happening on their own post-ML
queen delta
No
ashen warren
some mod does that
zenith hazel
goblin army is useful (goblin tinkerer, shadowflame stuff for statis’ curse, astreal defeat, etc)
it’s more of a useful annoyance
ashen warren
the only useful shadowflame item is the first shadowflame
ashen warren
I like the more rockets that sounds nice
fresh harbor
Though I believe a better suggestion would be the actual rocket idea, what it does and how to get it
And then put that as the reasoning
"This needs more stuff" kinda suggestions don't really go far
still cliff
Should SCal say:"Oh looks like you want a rematch"
Idk what else but would that be good?
lost agate
"do you have a fetish to be killed or something" is good enough already
lost agate
Doesnt she say something already?
gloomy hazel
@fresh harbor so why are there more bullet types then?
fresh harbor
I don't understand your question, could you rephrase it?
earnest raptor
@still cliff
I have a another variant:
New SCal replicc
When you summon she after a more that 1000 deaths:
"Even my lord is not so determined. How do you save your psyche with each new attempt?"
Why: a something new for no-hitters after thousands of fails.
still cliff
Yeah that's kinda nice
But not that much
3000 is too many times
May it should be under 200
still cliff
k
gloomy hazel
@fresh harbor I ask you if you know why the mod adds more bullet and arrow types
bitter drift
sound like protect from Pokémon
ain't to fond of that
plus with so many projectiles this accessory will be useless
severe burrow
I do think we could use new rocket types
bitter drift
agreed
severe burrow
The strongest vanilla rockets destroy terrain
bitter drift
homing rockets?
severe burrow
I just want better alternatives to the terrain destroying rockets
distant gyro
Rocket IV kills land yes
bitter drift
there is the not terrain destroying rockets
severe burrow
Does anybody use rocket launchers to mine?
And yes there are
But consider that rocket VI
Is a terrain destroyer
distant gyro
2 and 4 destroy terrains iirc
1 and 3 don't
severe burrow
I thought rocket 3 destroyed terrain
bitter drift
nope
severe burrow
That's weird
lost agate
Only 4 does
severe burrow
Oh
bitter drift
and 2
severe burrow
Are launchers ever viable excluding the pack?
distant gyro
!wiki !terraria rockets
lost agate
Yea
red stormBOT
vestal comet
1 and 2 are small, 3 and 4 are big, 1 and 3 dont delete tiles, 2 and 4 do
Snowmans cannon is great for deus
severe burrow
I've never heard of anybody playing rocket ranger
bitter drift
several people are typing
severe burrow
Holy shit that would be a fun subclass
lost agate
The pack, blissful bombardier, snowman cannon, all of them are good
distant gyro
Scorpio also for ML
bitter drift
i can see that grenade and rocket launcher class
severe burrow
Let's take it further
Jetpacks
Rocket boots
Rocket launchers
That's the rocket ranger
bitter drift
???????? why
bitter drift
rocket boots are an accessory
jetpack are wings
severe burrow
Yes
bitter drift
so you can upgrade the rocket boots
bitter drift
i think stick to grenade and rocket launchers
severe burrow
Fighter jet
bitter drift
tbh here is an idea
severe burrow
Yes provide
bitter drift
a new class explosive class (contains grenade and rockets and other explosive weapons)
if not a new class at least as new weapons
severe burrow
The rocket ranger subclass
I've been thinking a lot about the idea of adding new subclasses and making more obscure weapon types more viable
bitter drift
well i'm suggesting a grenade launcher now
severe burrow
I mean one weapon won't make a class
New accessories and stuff would be needed to sell the idea
bitter drift
you can make it into classes with enough weapons and accessories
severe burrow
Yes
distant gyro
it's already an existing subclass kinda
severe burrow
Kinda but
severe burrow
It's not really a subclass so much as it is a weapon type
bitter drift
brb
distant gyro
but note that rocket launcher subclass starts at post-plantera and there's 7 Calamity weapons
severe burrow
You can't boost your explosive damage in specific, you don't have any accessories to empower your explosives
royal turtle
explosives or rockets?
severe burrow
Both
royal turtle
shroomite has a set specifically for rockets
severe burrow
It does?
distant gyro
yes
severe burrow
Isn't that the only set in the game to do anything to rockets in specific tho?
royal turtle
yeah, but it's also the only thing to address subclasses at all in vanilla
or at least ranger subclasses
severe burrow
Yeah that's why I'd like to see it expanded upon
bitter drift
this is why i want to make it a class also i'm back
severe burrow
More subclasses would make the game more fun
bitter drift
fun idea shadowed by the ranger
severe burrow
A subclass of summoner that uses battle mounts would be cool
More battle mounts would be cool overall
bitter drift
a spiked slime saddle
distant gyro
There's already 13 rocket launcher weapons Post-Plantera and that's quite a bit
severe burrow
13 but how many do you ever use
bitter drift
no this is the problem it's shadowed by the ranger class
royal turtle
summoner has two well-defined subclasses but a third would be cool
severe burrow
There's no real encouragement to use them over guns unless it's like the pack
royal turtle
summoner has minion and sentry
distant gyro
you can do all bosses with rocket launchers though
severe burrow
I consider minions to be the main class
bitter drift
but the rockets only start after planterra
tired haven
Hardmode*
Mineral Mortar
severe burrow
Sentry summoners... poor lads
tired haven
Sentries are not meant to be used separately from minions though?
bitter drift
still no early hard mode rockets
severe burrow
Yeah
tired haven
Eh?
severe burrow
They aren't so much of a subclass as they are an alternative
vestal comet
Sentries are just more damage
vestal comet
Yeah
severe burrow
Battle mounts would make mounts more relevant
distant gyro
Sentry summoners are OP btw
vestal comet
Not really
bitter drift
if they hit
vestal comet
Like itd be hell
distant gyro
taking note that TML bugs out Sentry Accessories so you can spam hive pod and do 25k dps post-Deus
severe burrow
Burden breaker makes almost every mount useless for navigation
Because why ride a mount when you can accelerate across a large world in seconds?
vestal comet
Yeah, but you cant use it during bosses
So items like the unicorn mount stay relevant
And its post mech
severe burrow
Mounts alter your hitbox and often mess with your mobility
Yes the unicorn is fast
distant gyro
using Unicorns/Alicorn, Brimrose, and the 2 slime mounts are all valid strategies
bitter drift
no?
distant gyro
Jelly Bean
vestal comet
Slime mount is good for hellovator and certain bosses
distant gyro
From Aureus post-ML
severe burrow
Yes but it's really awkward
severe burrow
The slime mount is good in prehardmode because it deals notable damage and has good vertical burst mobility
But if you don't have wings watch out
bitter drift
but it has it's many problems
severe burrow
Also sometimes bosses just hit you when you try to bounce
Let's not forget the lack of speed, too
vestal comet
But the downward speed is great
vestal comet
Then you bad lol
severe burrow
Splat
bitter drift
oof
severe burrow
The slime literally kills you
By transferring the force of the impact up into you
Shattering your entire skeleton
distant gyro
it takes skill to master the arts of slime mount
vestal comet
I like to use slime mount for expert duke fishron phase 3, due to lack of tornadoes it makes it great for dodging
In vanilla
bitter drift
the thing is aren't slimes bouncy
severe burrow
I would like to see mounts that can actually fight though
royal turtle
slime mount with bundle of balloons lets you get enough fall damage to kill you instantly twice over from a standing start
severe burrow
That's ultimately what I define as a battle mount
bitter drift
enough to kill you 10 time i got once
vestal comet
Still probably the best mount up and until fabsol
bitter drift
i broke that with 5000
distant gyro
Brimrose is arguably better
bitter drift
this mount have to have a slime god version
distant gyro
no more slime mount variants tbh, 2 is like enough
bitter drift
when one of them suck and the other have a HUGE problem
hey dude wrong page
CAN SOMEONE DELETE THE NOT SUGGESTION in #suggestions-voting
elder kestrel
@ashen warren did you make this suggestion yourself?
bitter topaz
he didn't
he literally just stole it from #lore-discussion 
fervent zealot
wait a second
bitter drift
this isn't a suggestion
fervent zealot
it's the same person they just changed their name and pfp for some reason
fervent zealot
also adir, summons can't crit
bitter drift
oops
bitter topaz
should we warn him for it?
i don't think i've seen this happen before
severe burrow
Yep no crits
ashen warren
i thought it would be funny to show you the superior afkpets lore
because its not very edjy
severe burrow
I think another slime mount would be fine of it wasn't just the same thing but bigger numbers
severe burrow
Smh
bitter drift
FIXED
elder kestrel
Alright everyone, back on topic now
fervent zealot
percent based things for summons is still kinda bad ngl
severe burrow
Percent based whats
fervent zealot
percent based mechanics as a whole for summoner are yeugh
bitter drift
maybe an eye mount summon from EOC
space to dash and do damage other then that it is just a slow flying mount
severe burrow
Summon orbiting eyeballs and do dashes
severe burrow
I'm telling you a whole subclass based on battle mounts and buffing them would be pretty neat
severe burrow
I mean why not
bitter drift
you already have the idea for it in an enemy
placid girder
thats prob not happening because spiriting new armour sets is lots of effort
bitter drift
it's not gonna happened
it once had this but they moved away from it
restive cloud
dusty stirrup
Jesus christ what's with all the slime rain sugmas
queen delta
Cuz slime rain is a waste of time after like 4-5 terrarian days
dusty stirrup
Yeah but like no one was making suggestions on slime rain, then all of sudden there's a shitload of them
severe burrow
Slime rain
novel pebble
Most of the suggestions are just add-ons on top of each other
gusty geode
I might jump on this bandwagon myself
A little inconvenience here and there is good for you, and I bet the slime rain could be made more threatening
dusty stirrup
Just don't make a half-assed sugmas and it'll be fine
I don't think slime rain needs buffs, it just needs to be useful
gusty geode
Every other event gets stronger as time goes on
dusty stirrup
What's the point of it becoming stronger if it doesn't give you anything useful
It just makes it become more annoying
gusty geode
I gave out ways to make it useful later in progression
You can get seeds from any spreading biome in the hardmode version
dusty stirrup
That's not really useful since EoC already does that
Besides Clenminator is still a better option anyway
gusty geode
I mean from both of the world evils in one world unless EoC does that now and I'm dumb
dusty stirrup
Just go fight eoc in the reverse world if you so wish for the other world evil
If the only gained reward in hm is evil seeds, then it's kinda useless to buff it, tbh
severe burrow
It's free gel
severe burrow
It happens on its own
dusty stirrup
That makes it worse
severe burrow
Therefore free
gusty geode
Not everything needs more of a use than getting in your way
See every eclipse enemy getting buffed post-Yharon 1 rather than just Mothron (the only one you need iirc)
distant gyro
oh, there's another slime rain suggestion?
that sounds like old one ngl
dusty stirrup
But your slime rain suggestion just makes it more annoying
severe burrow
Slime rain but every slime is a king slime
dusty stirrup
It's a random event, unlike eclipse
severe burrow
Eclipse is random
distant gyro
but can be summoned
dusty stirrup
It can be skipped at that point tho
severe burrow
Hm
dusty stirrup
No one ever really waits for eclipse in calamity, and you can just skip it if needed
In pre-hm, you can't do that with slime rain
and early early hm
severe burrow
Slime rain is fine how it is
It's a thing that happens
It's just kinda that
Not every event needs to have major effects on the world
dusty stirrup
Yeah, if you wanna make a buff suggestion to it, atleast it give it worthwhile rewards
gusty geode
That's part of the goal in my suggestion
Some things should be able to get in your way, even after you get stronger
severe burrow
I'd like to see more little things like Slime rain
queen delta
Like OOA gets buffs but better rewards
Pumpkin and frost moon gets in your way after DoG but gets new stuff
dusty stirrup
I don't think random events should be how you achieve that, Squid
Especially if what you get from it ends up being worthless
gusty geode
What I mean is that some things should be able to go wrong in ways outside your control
In a lot of cases you're able to rush into whatever part of the game, take what you want, and then never even have to think about it again, and I think that's bad
Making random events stronger would help to fix that
dusty stirrup
Then atleast make it interesting instead of just adding random common slimes
AND add proper rewards
hearty spade
Is it Slime Rain Day or what
dusty stirrup
Apparently
delicate raft
lul
void kelp
^^ !
terse sundial
@ashen warren Bumblebirb was just nerfed recently and was made Pre-Providence, it current stats reflect that change progression wise.
ashen warren
Wow I am out of date.
void kelp
- thoughts on my suggestion? is it imbalanced or anything?
wide patrol
Remove Daedalus headpiece gravity
pliant bone
Atleast give it another unique setbonus
terse sundial
I understand where you are coming from, but if you want something removed, suggest a better replacement
also it's there to "balance" out the set
frosty kindle
it's... quite a controversial bit regarding the gravity manipulation
terse sundial
indeed
frosty kindle
and yeah, more detail on your suggestion would be highly appreciated @wide patrol
terse sundial
but it also pushiness people who abuse AI so 🤷
wide patrol
oh
frosty kindle
i heard destroyer gets enraged or smth if antigrav is used for too long
terse sundial
all mech bosses do
frosty kindle
neat 
terse sundial
also Aquatic Scourge and Astrum Deus
pliant bone
God knows what enraged Smellytron prime does.
terse sundial
although the mechboss enrage is rev+
frosty kindle
welp, there goes my antigrav strategy for Deus
terse sundial
frosty kindle
antigrav + snowman cannon was my ideal deus strategy
void kelp
anything with aoe and pierce melts it
void kelp
I’d love to have a way to change what the minions will target, kinda like how in some tower defense games you can select what enemies the tower prioritizes
slate crown
cough btd5
shell crystal
I clap to that @gusty geode
but they already can target enemies
or at least you can manually say who their target
frosty kindle
or maybe minions that follow around the cursor
shell crystal
that too
frosty kindle
therefore making summoners have to aim for once
ashen warren
Imagine the mechworm just flipping out
terse sundial
ono, my dm summon runs are about to get ruined by aiming
ashen warren
aaa
terse sundial
gloomy hazel
I've updated my suggestion for the rockets
cold terrace
bRUH BUFF THE SLIME RAIN XD
zenith hazel
still don't get the influx of slime rain suggestions recently
gloomy hazel
Why are people asking to buff the Slime Rain? I don't see the point, it's supposed to be a pre-hardmode event for the very begginers. And if you want to fight the Slime King, you go to the Dryad and you buy the Slime King summoner, that's it
ashen warren
I mean, we could buff the blood moon, but nooooo
Grinding isn't fun, especially for blood orbs, slime rain and other events can stay to the side until the bloon gets buffed
ashen warren
*Buff it even more
cyan coral
tbh
Blood orbs isn't that hard to grind tho
Zerg pot + full piercing and you're done
ashen warren
more like zerg pot + something to rest on the mouse1 so you can do something else for a while while your weapon still shreds through the enemies.
cyan coral
or,you can use alchemist npc lul
zenith hazel
best time to grind blood orbs is post-polter imo
bloodflare armor is nothing to scoff at
proven tide
I feel like I'm having a stroke reading this
@bitter drift is this just crafted with Wulfrum Shards?
livid coral
proven tide
...So
You're saying
A pre-boss item that gives buffs about 1/3 as strong as the Nebula Armor's set bonus mechanic
Without requiring any input or damage-dealing
Or taking up an accessory slot
livid coral
Please don't hurt yourself over this
proven tide
ngl my left temple hurts now
bitter drift
no the thing is that summon doesn't damage at all
proven tide
Exactly
livid coral
He's.... known for this.
proven tide
I know
bitter drift
he can't damage its more like a support summon
is it to powerful?
proven tide
I'm a regular in this chat and I'm trying to gauge this before I give feedback
worthy fiber
Spirit Glyph or whatever it's called kinda does this already
livid coral
So you already know bout this guy got it.
proven tide
👍
So it doesn't take I-Frames, and there's no reason for a non-summoner to use it, and it could be used all the way through the game by any build for the sake of buffs at no cost, and it doesn't take any accessory slots
bitter drift
should I state he will probebly be slow as heck
proven tide
Alright, while I appreciate the idea, I think there needs to be some mechanic requiring active input to generate the boxes
Else, as stated above, anyone could use it without drawback
dusty stirrup
Adir we really need to talk about your formatting
You really need to start using capital letters
proven tide
ono another coloured name has arrive
dusty stirrup
properly
proven tide
I shall: silence
placid moth
Was Adir an old regular member of the server ?
bitter drift
i suck at English
change my mined
sinful violet
no
placid moth
Hmm ok
sinful violet
don't worry about it simon
placid moth
So basically, a summoner hybrid accessory ?
dusty stirrup
I think I died
proven tide
It's not an accessory, though
bitter drift
a support summon
proven tide
That's the issue
It's a summon weapon and it doesn't attack
While the latter may seem like a drawback, it's actually great incentive for every non-summoner to use it
strange patio
Could be converted into an accessory instead?
proven tide
No i-frame consumption, no accessory slots taken up
bitter drift
also this weapon supports just summoners
dusty stirrup
It'd work better as an acc tbh
strange patio
Yeah
proven tide
Say a Summoner's using Omega Blue armour, which has universal damage buffs
dusty stirrup
Occasionally have UFOs spawning
proven tide
the item would have no way of knowing what class is using it
¯_(ツ)_/¯
Accessory's the way to go, and maybe a slight bit of progression locking would be worth looking into
On top of that, a drawback for non-summoners
bitter drift
just how i put it was bad right?
strange patio
Yeah i guess
bitter drift
😥
dusty stirrup
This is why you try to discuss here before posting a suggestion, usually
strange patio
You could also make it mid game roughly, and have it so the drone does contact damage on propellers
Turning it back into a summon weapon
Any opinions on that?
proven tide
summons a flying little wulfram drone that act like the Xeanofobe staff
Mini-stroke aside, does this mean that the thing has the same AI as the Xeno Staff and Sharknado? If so, why would it fly all over the place if it doesn't attack the things it flies at?
placid moth
I'd rather have it as a pet tbh
proven tide
Oh shit yeah that works
Contact damage and keeping the AI like that of the Xeno Staff
strange patio
Yeah and could also keep the idea of dropping the packages
Making you choose between rushing towards them or waiting for an opening to grab
So everytime it does certain damage
proven tide
I think now we're getting somewhere