suggestions-discussion

[ashen plume]

OH

[fossil torrent]

[ashen warren]

[elder kestrel]

What

[eager palm]

im disappointed

[floral linden]

Speaking of meme suggestions, Y'all should make a Calamity FE hack.

[fossil torrent]

nvm there it is

[lost agate]

Oh it was an actual suggestion

[eager palm]

sadness

[fossil torrent]

double message

[frail mantle]

if you mean old Auric Helmet as a vanity thingy, it's been suggested before

[ashen plume]

Worm Boss

[ashen warren]

It's a garbage suggestion though tbh.

-1 time spent on thought

[eager palm]

@jolly dust can you put your posts in one message, also read the rules before posting

[frail mantle]

smells like a low-effort suggestion tbh

[floral linden]

Next thing you know, people will be asking can we play as Yharim!?

[jolly dust]

ok

[eager palm]

the rules are in the pins

[quick dove]

worm salad seems nice

[jolly dust]

yeah

[quick dove]

having calamity's ''signature'' bosses ™ on a bossrush mode only seems pretty fun

[ashen plume]

Now introducing the new Yharim class! Want to oneshot everything? BOOM you can do it, you're Yharim. SCal being dumb again wanting to destroy you? BOOM wreck her so she never becomes a problem no more. Ever wanted to have your very own pet dragon able to destroy the world all by himself? BOOM you have it, you are Yharim. Enjoy your new Yharim set with over -2 bazillion damage for the cost of your soul! Out for free now.

[ashen warren]

Offtopic..?

[ashen plume]

Not really

Its on mog's suggestion

A critique if you analyse it

[worthy fiber]

Reminds me, old Auric and Godslayer helms should be added into that list of oversuggested stuff

[ashen warren]

Worm hell summon should be after draedon is added tbh, since potential exo-destroyer is a thing, there could even be another worm for goozma or whatever but eh.

[quiet abyss]

"a material from all bosses"
That'd create a lot of ash of calamity except worse, so no

[ashen plume]

MORE worm bosses

[ashen warren]

@lime mica Can you be more specific?

[lime mica]

there we go

I know it’s dumb but weapon variety feels like it lacks, in the crafting side of things. Sword or bow, pick.

All others are drops or purchased

[ashen warren]

Wood wouldn't work cause it's a light material imo but whatever.

[lime mica]

Well I mean if I tied a log to the end of a rope and hit you on the head it would kill you

or at least hurt you

And you have a skeleton, slimes don’t lmao

[ashen warren]

Ye but even king slime is immune to trees.

[lime mica]

cause he’s the king duh /s

[sinful steeple]

I actually like that idea ngl

I really like flails and don't really see them much

[smoky wagon]

flails are viable pretty much throughout as soon as you get them

with the buffed dmg

[frail mantle]

not really

to make use of high damage you have to actually hit the enemies

[smoky wagon]

then hit the enemies🤔

[sinful steeple]

Exactly

[frail mantle]

the problem is that actually hitting enemies with most flails is hard

[smoky wagon]

if its a hard to hit enemy you switch weapons

if you do a flail only run

you put yourself through that

[frail mantle]

true

[sinful steeple]

Flails are fairly easy to use

Except for the clam crusher because the hitbox is so huge it can't be fired directly left or right on the ground because it smacks the ground

[smoky wagon]

rip

[frail mantle]

afaik clam crusher is a high iq weapon

which is why i didn't use it in my melee playthrough

[smoky wagon]

i feel like chain guillotines are an overlooked flail

in vanilla

to the point where people dont even know what they are

[sinful steeple]

Clam crusher is meta

I clam crushed whatever I saw in early hardmode

Cryogen? Clam crushed. Wyvern? ENJOY GETTING SNAPPED BY A MOLLUSK

[ashen warren]

Chain is bad.

It deals garbo damage last time I checked.

[smoky wagon]

In vanilla its good for early hardmode

of course calamity yeets alot of vanilla items

[ashen warren]

i didn't even use that shit in vanilla

[sinful steeple]

Me neither

[smoky wagon]

its random corrupt mimic drop

All the mimic drops are overlooked but daedulus

cause lol

[sinful steeple]

And in Calamity early hardmode has clam cataclysm

[fierce hedge]

I like the Worm Salad Idea. Although it would be a meme item

[ashen warren]

Forbidden word detected

[fierce hedge]

[ashen warren]

Meme suggestions will receive no quarter

[fierce hedge]

Hmmmm

[ashen warren]

Can we just remove the No U item already? Or is it still useful.

[sinful steeple]

It isn't

No

[ashen warren]

"No" Isn't exactly a good argument.

Just have BOHLDOHR drop normal lizard items. STYNAX ERROR isnt useful anymore

[ornate pecan]

[ashen warren]

Stardust is almost never mistaken though, so I see no point.

Jokes over, can we get rid of syntax error

[sinful steeple]

It's just pointless and I don't think anyone with half of an ape's brain would confuse the two

But then again humanity never ceases to disappoint so the truth in that statement is questionable

[ashen warren]

They did rename the stardust staff

But for different reasons

I just feel like the name Astral Dust fits the theme more than Stardust. At least now that we have the astral infection

And we have Stardust Fragments

Stardust is remarkably dissimilar to Stardust fragments

In terms of crafting, location, and appearance

[sinful steeple]

Stardust fragments have a whole 2 more syllables. Count it with me 38 -33 1 6 7 69 2

[hollow shell]

It's never mistaken ingame, yeah
but in conversation? Definitely

[ashen warren]

Is it really?
I've never seen.

[hollow shell]

The word "stardust" is very closely correlated with Stardust Pillar/Fragment content
It is confusing to have an item with the same name that has 0 relation

[ashen warren]

That's what I was thinking. Renaming it Astral Dust would correlate with its respective biome/material.

[sinful steeple]

Except that the astral infection got there because of a sta- erm I mean 'star'(yes I know it isn't technically a star but it is referred to as such) and the stardust is dust from said star it makes sense that stardust is well... Stardust

So don't call me an idiot because it's made of solid metal instead of metallic plasma or something

[void kelp]

it could be called astral ash ?

[ashen warren]

Or astral powder. Something more fitting for the biome instead of just "stardust". Its a little vague considering the later Lunar event consists of "stardust" content

[round falcon]

Moondust?

or perhaps Comet Ash?

[ashen warren]

I also feel like A comet has fallen from the heavens is more fitting than A star has fallen from the heavens

[void kelp]

I like the idea but honestly.. the phrase “a star has fallen from the heavens” seems good; maybe change it to have a question mark to emphasize that there’s something off about it, perhaps?

[frail mantle]

i don't know about a question mark

[ashen warren]

And if you think about it, every night Fallen stars fall from the Heavens. What is it, a supergiant star?

[frail mantle]

maybe rather make it "an astral chunk has descended from the skies..."

[round falcon]

"A comet has collided with the world!"

nah

tremor flashbacks

[ashen warren]

A comet has fallen from the skies!

[round falcon]

An otherworldly mass has crashed into the world!

[ashen warren]

A comet has fallen from the skies!
an astral infection spreads...

Or an Asteroid

That could work

An asteroid has landed!

[sinful steeple]

The current one is better

[floral linden]

Astral is not true Stardust

[ashen warren]

True

[sinful steeple]

If you think about it stardust is more stardust than the stardust fragment shit because the astral meteor was spawned by Astrum Deus, god of the stars while the stardust pillar was spawned by the Moon Lord, god of the Moon

[ashen warren]

Tell that to the Terraria devs

Remember, they're Celestial pillars

Not one of them are lunar related

[floral linden]

Astrum Deus is another worm boss

[sinful steeple]

COUGH

[fierce hedge]

"A universal Plague Has infected the world"

Idek

[sinful steeple]

Not once are they referred to as the celestial pillars

[ashen warren]

The celestial pillars are invading! right after you kill the cultist

Look it up

[sinful steeple]

Celestial creatures not celestial pillars

[fervent zealot]

creatures, as in the pillars are creatures

[sinful steeple]

The pillars are likely just magic

And remember that all of that is caused by the Moon Lord

[floral linden]

Snorts

[ashen warren]

Just because he is called Moon Lord doesn't mean he doesn't have celestial power.

[sinful steeple]

It is still called the Moon Lord

It is the god of the Moon

[fervent zealot]

calamity lore - moon lord locked in the moon, not god of the moon

[fierce hedge]

Smh. Killing the Lunatic Cultist frees the power he used to try and defeat the player. (Aka the 4 pillars)

[ashen warren]

Exactly.

[fierce hedge]

After the 4 pillars have been destroyed, the Moon Lord awakens

Why is the main goal to destroy the pillars?

[sinful steeple]

If the Lunatic Cultist is a good guy why do planet destroying monsters invade

[fierce hedge]

And not the creatures

I didnt say he was good.

At all.

[sinful steeple]

The Lunatic Cultist is a good guy in the Calamity lore

[fierce hedge]

Hm

I mean. calamity is still in progress with Lore

Isnt it

[ashen warren]

Lunatic cultist is actually terrarian reveal when

[fierce hedge]

Besides, Calamity isnt Canon

[sinful steeple]

Since what the pillars are is a blank spot I imagine them to be magical constructs of stone, life of whatever kind and celestial energy

And Calamity's lore does matter in Calamity

[ashen warren]

Macaroni your argument is invalid. The pillars are like hiveminds. It's a group of celestial creatures that guard the Moon Lord.

[sinful steeple]

My argument is invalid? Prove it. Just because you imagine them as different from what I do due to the pillars never being explained doesn't make my argument invalid

[fierce hedge]

Calamity Lore is a big mess rn tbh

[sinful steeple]

And the pillars appear to be made of stone, vines, animal parts and magic so I doubt that they're colonial organisms

[ashen warren]

Wait a minute. Isnt this the Calamity discord? Why are we fighting about vanilla crap? We should talk about the suggestions. Yknow... because this is the suggestions discussion?

[fierce hedge]

Wait.

[fervent zealot]

because someone had the bright idea of saying astral is more star-y than stardust

[fierce hedge]

Killing the monsters weakens the pillar's shield

Whats that all about

[sinful steeple]

You don't have to act like I'm not there

[ashen warren]

Idk. Must be for event reasons. It probably doesn't have a lore.

Anyway, I personally feel like the "star" that falls should be an Asteroid, as it fits the name 'astral infection.' And rename Stardust to something more like Astral dust. That's all I want.

[fierce hedge]

Astral Bulb

[sinful steeple]

The 'star' is star god vomit. That's basically a star

[ashen warren]

Well at least change Stardust to Astral dust. As it drops from Astral enemies and is used to make Astral bars

[sinful steeple]

Stardust is star god vomit dust

Basically stardust

More stardust than Moon magic at least

[fervent zealot]

StArDuSt CoMeS FrOm ThE AstRaL InFeCtiOn WhIcH Is NoT ThE SaMe As AsTrUm DeUs

tbh fuckin resprite it and rename it to astral microbes

[ashen warren]

Then why isnt it called Starbourne infection?

[sinful steeple]

Astrum Deus(dead one, not many worms) was the creator of the astral infection

[fervent zealot]

uh, no.

[sinful steeple]

Coughed it up like a hairball

[fervent zealot]

do you even fucking lore

[floral linden]

Did he cough up the worm boss too?

[ashen warren]

as·tral (ăs′trəl)
adj.

1. Of, relating to, emanating from, or resembling the stars.

[fervent zealot]

^

starbourne disease, because it's spread through the cosmos by the remains of the god of the stars

[autumn kiln]

I'm sorry where does it state that an old, dead Astrum Deus created the astral infection

all we know is that it's a virus spread through meteors.

[ashen warren]

Lore on wiki.

[fervent zealot]

lore on wiki is
gasp outdated

[sinful steeple]

Last paragraph of the Astrum Deus lore.
In ancient times, it was said that the god of the stars would descend upon the planet in its last days. Its body would infuse the earth with astral power and transform lesser lifeforms into its guardians. The power lingering in its corpse attracted worms to itself, empowering them so that they may grow - and Astrum Deus may one day return to the cosmos. Even when torn asunder, the god's corpse held power; just as the legend that gave rise to it claimed, those fragments of its body would one day fall to the planet and choose a successor to the god of the stars.

[ashen warren]

Again, at LEAST change stardust to Astral dust. I dont care about any thing else

Deus got pounded by DoG then it spat on a planet.

[sinful steeple]

That is EXACTLY the same as the astral infection, and there was a progenitor of the astral infection

[fervent zealot]

wiki lore outdated now shut

[sinful steeple]

Show the new lore then

[fervent zealot]

i don't know where to get it other than in game and i'm not booting up the game to prove the point

[sinful steeple]

I will then

[ashen warren]

My only issue is that astral dust is a boring as shit name.

[smoky wagon]

astral blood

🤔

[ashen warren]

Anything besides stardust

Renaming isn't that big an issue, but stardust is far better that astral dust.

[fervent zealot]

stardust is boring too tbh

astral microbes when

[ashen warren]

Astral powder

Make the astral a fungus and I will eat you.

[smoky wagon]

spacedust

[torn cliff]

Dust

[ashen warren]

Even crazier spacedust

Just dust

[sinful steeple]

The scaleless beast is OG Deus

[fervent zealot]

. . .

can you even read

[sinful steeple]

Do you even lore

[fervent zealot]

ThOuGh It WaS NoT ThE PrOgEnItOr Of ThE InFeCtIoN

[sinful steeple]

The lore says that Astrum Deus can come back

The scaleless beast devouring celestial bodies by the dozens is the original god of the stars, the true Astrum Deus, goofing off in some other corner of the universe after coming back from the dead

[fervent zealot]

d o u b t

[smoky wagon]

astral meteors is when it takes a big dump

tbh

[sinful steeple]

And bootleg Deus came down to Earth when it shat a star at it, it didn't make it, but it is now the one shitting stars

Just like true Deus

[fervent zealot]

the lore item is talking about deus as a whole

[sinful steeple]

Who is also likely shitting stars

No

[fervent zealot]

YES.

[ashen warren]

This sounds alot like Calamitas. There is a fake weaker variant of it's TRUE self

[sinful steeple]

It is talking about the 11 worms that ate its corpse

[floral linden]

Should I suggest that the lore be updated on wiki?

[fervent zealot]

that shouldn't be a suggestion

[smoky wagon]

Pretty sure there are people who write lore

[fervent zealot]

some lore nerd needs to update the wiki with the full new lore already

[smoky wagon]

the wiki lore is official

idk what you mean by updating it

[fervent zealot]

the wiki lore is out of date currently.

it's about the last iteration of deus lore.

[smoky wagon]

where is the new lore then

[fervent zealot]

before astral was turned into a full biome, and was, in fact, just a part of deus

[sinful steeple]

The lore is: Astrum Deus is a giant star worm. Deus shits stars to spread an infection. Deus gets rekt by DoG. Deus' corpse attracts 11 worms that eat Deus' corpse. They become the new Deus. They spread the infection, while after centuries Deus regenerates, also shitting stars and eating planets off in some far off corner of the universe

[fervent zealot]

. . .

not even fucking close that's some horrendous hybrid of the two lores

[smoky wagon]

you keep referencing the new lore

where is it

[sinful steeple]

Then produce the full lore entry

[smoky wagon]

^

[fervent zealot]

i don't have the full entry i've just read it in the past

[ashen warren]

Where is it then?

[smoky wagon]

😞

[fervent zealot]

somewhere in the depths of #calamity-mod-talk most likely

[sinful steeple]

If you read it so long ago it's been lost to time the wiki has been updated with said new lore.

[fervent zealot]

. . .

[sinful steeple]

Except it hasn't and has the current up to date lore

[fervent zealot]

the wiki lore is the old lore, i know this for fact

[ashen warren]

Szavak, the forum post is kept up to date.
Check it.

[fervent zealot]

true

gimme a sec

[smoky wagon]

the forum post and the wiki lore match up

last time i checked

[fervent zealot]

forum page says it's somewhat of both

[smoky wagon]

The forum page has the astral infection+astrum deus lore

[sinful steeple]

Bring forth the proof.

[fervent zealot]

deus got vored by DoG, deus also got infected by the astral infection

[smoky wagon]

the astral infection lore part is on that page

[sinful steeple]

.

AAAAA

[fervent zealot]

there's your fucking proof

[smoky wagon]

thats on the astral infection page

on the wiki

[fervent zealot]

i didn't realize part of the old lore had been kept, my bad

[sinful steeple]

And this never mentions Deus

THAT'S THE CURRENT LORE NOT OLD

[fervent zealot]

. . .

[smoky wagon]

the forum post has the old deus sprite

[fervent zealot]

"If An Entity Is Powerful Enough To Eat A Planet"

[smoky wagon]

wonk

[fervent zealot]

hMMMM, i wonder, does deus fucking devour celestial bodies???

nope, obviously not

[ashen warren]

...so anyway what would bee a good name for Stardust? I'm thinking astral ash

[sinful steeple]

New Deus ate Deus' corpse

It is literally the embodiment of the astral infection

[fervent zealot]

there is no "new" deus

[ashen warren]

Now's not a good time jojo.

[fervent zealot]

there's deus, and the 11 worms that are deus attempt to regenerate into wholeness

[sinful steeple]

New Deus is the 11 worms that ate Deus' corpse

[ashen warren]

How about we contact the devs? They will know

[fervent zealot]

honestly getting kind of temping to just ping one of the lorewriters to solve this debate

[ashen warren]

The ones that are offline?

Do it. I'm tired of this damn arguement

[fervent zealot]

terry isn't offline

[sinful steeple]

You can't infect an ebola virus with ebola

[ashen warren]

still playing yakuza i see

[sinful steeple]

So why can Deus be infected by the astral infection

Deus is the spreader of the astral infection

[fervent zealot]

deus was a god of the stars, got infected, now spreads the shitty ass disease

doesn't mean he made it

[sinful steeple]

Deus was god of the stars and progenitor of the astral infection, then got killed by DoG and 11 worms ate Deus, then became Deus and started doing the same shit Deus was doing before

[fervent zealot]

where do you get the idea that the original deus is different than the deus you fight

[sinful steeple]

Because OG Deus died

It's in the lore

[smoky wagon]

“scaleless creature”

[fervent zealot]

og deus got fucking slammed by DoG, he can regenerate

[bitter topaz]

this doesn't seem to suggestions related.
if you want to continue this, move to #calamity-mod-talk
although if you want to discuss lore in-depth i suggest checking out the literature server as well.

[sinful steeple]

Okay

[ashen warren]

To the Literature server!

[sinful steeple]

Let's move

[fervent zealot]

suggestion wise astral dust lame so astral microbes yes tbh

[sinful steeple]

Wot

[ashen warren]

Astral microbes is good

Astral is not a shroom

[fervent zealot]

microbes don't relate to shrooms

[ashen warren]

Bacterium or whatever would be better.

Astral bacterium

You sure?

[sinful steeple]

Stardust. Take it or leave it

Also astral bacterium doesn't role off the tongue

It's just a bad name- even worse than astral dust

[smoky wagon]

galactica singularity does though

[ashen warren]

Galactic dust?

[sinful steeple]

Deus is star god, not galaxy god

[smoky wagon]

astral ash

imo

[ashen warren]

Macaroni, I'm gonna be blunt.
You've kinda been an ass this whole time.
Next time please try not to order people around, tell them what to think, and insult people.
It just causes stupid shit like this that doesn't do anything but spread toxicity.
inb4 mingimos

[fervent zealot]

mingimos banged

[ashen warren]

I'm now

Star powder?

[sinful steeple]

When did I insult someone?

[ashen warren]

Star ash I suppose.

[sinful steeple]

Or tell them what to do or think?

[ashen warren]

Stardus- wait.

[sinful steeple]

Yes

[ashen warren]

goddamnit fine wait a sec

Nah it sounds too much like stardust fragments.

[fervent zealot]

how about we drop the star prefix because of the fact that the dust isn't exclusive to deus

[sinful steeple]

We can debate the truth in that statement in #calamity-mod-talk if you'd like

[fervent zealot]

oh my fucking FUCK

stardust drops from all astral enemies not just deus so it makes no fucking sense for it to be star instead of astral now fucking drop it

[distant gyro]

Astral Dust just sounds weird lol

[ashen warren]

Astral Dust is best suiting for both the Sprite and the enemies that drop it

[sinful steeple]

We could talk about it there if you'd like. We could drop it either, your choice

But to keep this short and on topic: Deus is the reason that the astral infection exists, and the 11 worms that are now Deus are responsible for the infection. I can prove that in #calamity-mod-talk

[fervent zealot]

holy fuck just drop it you're wrong

[ashen warren]

Macaroni this is the suggestion discussion section. You arent talking about a suggestion. Begone

[sinful steeple]

I'm trying to prove that stardust is the best name for the item, that's about a suggestion. It's about your suggestion.

[ashen warren]

And somewhat Sors even said himself: "The word "stardust" is very closely correlated with Stardust Pillar/Fragment content.
It is confusing to have them with the same name that has 0 correlation"

[fervent zealot]

same reason the stardust staff was renamed, really

[ashen warren]

szavak THANK YOU

[sinful steeple]

That doesn't mean that nothing can use stardust in its name, even if it makes sense

[ashen warren]

Agree to disagree and leave it at that, this conversation is going nowhere.

I agree that there should be a way to collect wulfrum at night

[lost agate]

Yeah because zombies and eyes arent enough to worry about

[ashen warren]

Well like a Wulfrum zombie

Or just have wulfrum drones spawn at night

[lost agate]

Jesus,would you imagine zombies with 100% KB resistance

Doesnt sound that fun

[sinful steeple]

The thought of that makes me want to self deleetus

[gusty geode]

How bad could it be?

[sinful steeple]

Worse than dividing by 0

[lost agate]

Imagine getting ganged by like 4 of those with only a wooden sword

And with some demon eyes following you, have fun not dying

[distant gyro]

fun for HC players

[sinful steeple]

And for what reason would you ever need more wulfrum shards than the zillions of shards you get in the first day

[distant gyro]

what do you mean you get a zillion shards first day

it's still really hard to get full wulfrum first day

[lost agate]

Wulfrum aint meant to be got first night that im sure

[distant gyro]

yep

[worn salmon]

lad killed by wulfrum

[sinful steeple]

Of course I'm exaggerating but it's easy to get wulfrum gear so wulfrum hellspawn zombies aren't worth it in the long run

[distant gyro]

47 shards would take like 3 days to farm?

[lost agate]

No?

I took 2 days barely

[distant gyro]

o really

[lost agate]

Also, wulfrum are robots, how does a zombie make sense?

[distant gyro]

yeah true

[vestal elbow]

cyborg

[gusty geode]

Do they even need to be immune to knockback
If anything having something that heavy on your head would probably send you flying back further if it took a solid hit

[radiant meadow]

maybe a wulfrum automaton or something, but it shouldn't be immune to kb

fighter AI with kb immunity that early in the game would be quite annoying

whereas slimes are relatively easy to avoid as they start non aggro

[small talon]

Isnt the desert the dried up sea?

[ashen warren]

Yep

[quick dove]

yes

[ashen warren]

Wrong place to ask tho

[small talon]

and the sunken sea is what remains

[quick dove]

this is the wrong place to ask

[small talon]

i was refering to the recent suggestion for confirmation

[quick dove]

o h

[ashen warren]

That suggestion sounds really ech tho

[small talon]

The desert would need to be bigger

[ashen warren]

Terraria isn't optimized for post worldgen generation

It'll lag real hard

[small talon]

or somehow someone need sto be able to make "instance worlds" like plant centauri's dungeon system

and just have an entrance structure to the temples

[void kelp]

the sunken sea is the dried up sea ‘s remnants tho

[small talon]

yeah ik

[ashen warren]

Instance worlds?

[smoky wagon]

the mod already adds a ton more to the desert

[small talon]

like worlds you can only get to by useing a cetain item

[ashen warren]

Ah.

[smoky wagon]

with the boss, sunken sea, and sandstorms having much better loot

[small talon]

or structure, you cant get their normally by exploreing

Its basically off the map

[ashen warren]

Terraria doesn't handle that well

The worldgen is long as-is

[small talon]

can i post youtube videos for examples in here?

or should i dm

[radiant meadow]

what kind of video?

[ashen warren]

Dm pls

[small talon]

k

[ashen warren]

Remove the NO U item

The joke is dead. The LORDE is gone for good from the main mod. The BOHLDOHR doesn't need the drop to be relevant, as it serves as well needed variety in the bland jungle temple. In lieu, make the BOHLDOHR drop regular jungle temple stuff, or perhaps a chance for essence of sunlight, which is a hard-to-grind material and is related to the jungle temple in some ways.

Any other things?

[void kelp]

I think it’s being planned to be removed ?

[radiant meadow]

afaik, syntax error is staying kind of as a small reference to the past or something

at least it doesn't crash the game

[gusty geode]

In that case, how about this

Add a description to the item that says "A relic of a past most want to forget"

[errant spear]

What's the deal with the lorde anyways, I get it was a joke boss but why do people seem to hate even the mention of it

[hollow shell]

Calamity's got a bad history with memes and trolls
and the LORDE is troll meme incarnate

[sinful violet]

because it was overdone to an extreme extent

i don't really care anymore but apparently it's taboo now

[hollow shell]

Yeah the hate is not nearly as bad as it was before

Seeing as the LORDE is old news

[sinful violet]

smh, i just say "haha guys i miss the skeet memes" and then i get yelled at for being a bad example

makes me pensive

but anyway yeah, they fall under the category of memes in general so don't spam em or w/e

[quick dove]

oh, so rng is the reason why those laser walls looked so hard to go through

[delicate raft]

"Add a joke weapon..."

wut

[ashen warren]

Meme sugma

[marsh gust]

@worn salmon no joke suggestions, have a warn

[worn salmon]

aight

sorry ig

[marsh gust]

just make sure you read the pins b4 posting a suggestion next time mk?

[worn salmon]

ok

are warns permanent? @marsh gust

[marsh gust]

they'll expire after a month

[green ruin]

Was a funny idea though

[worn salmon]

oh aight

@green ruin nah, it was bad lol

it was something along the lines of

"combine every fucking dev weapon together into a clusterfuck of lag"

[fresh harbor]

That's literally what you just suggested

[green ruin]

Yeah it's funny

[dusty stirrup]

lol moment

[green ruin]

Mario Voice Line #16 moment

[dusty stirrup]

Can ya not

[worn salmon]

how is taht relevant to the channel tho

glad it wasnt ricardo or some dumb shit tbh

[green ruin]

Same here

[real parrot]

@dark inlet if you could add a reason as to why you want DM provi nerfed in your suggestion, that would be very appreciated

[ashen warren]

But why

[dusty stirrup]

@dark inlet Those are not really valid reason, you should instead provide proofs and better reasons than this, along with suggestions on what to nerf specifically.

Deleted for now

[dusty stirrup]

What stardust are you talking about here? @gusty cloud

[cyan lagoon]

astral stardust

mmh

thats quite a high price indeed

[dusty stirrup]

Peharps just halve it

[quiet abyss]

@mystic sandal First, might wanna leave the base damage stat up to the devs instead
4000 base damage is still lower than anti material's base damage, which is 7000
And making it has no effect other than healing would make it deal incredibly low dps compared to other weapons at that point.
Second, having an upgrade to a pre-hardmode weapon be post-DoG tier is a ridiculously huge leap. It'd be much better if you instead make a document containing an upgrade line of the weapon and gradually upgrading it to post-DoG.
E.g. Pre-HM -> Post-Plantera -> Post-ML -> Post-DoG

Nothing wrong with the suggestion itself otherwise though

[civic rampart]

Pinkie talking about huge leaps, plasma rod is used in aether's whisper

[ashen warren]

Exception, not the rule.

[quiet abyss]

I know that one existed, but that one has an excuse of being an indirect upgrade rather than a straight upgrade

Plus aether's whisper is there as a weapon for DoG
I do not see any point in adding another post-DoG range weapon when there's already quite a few options for ranged

[dusty stirrup]

besides it uses multiple weps

Not just one

[civic rampart]

Well summoner could use a few more weaps, but it'll be hell to code

[ashen warren]

@dusty stirrup I made a suggestion that we should rename Stardust to something like Astral dust or whatever for confusion purposes, and what you said perfectly culminates why I think the name should be changed

[dusty stirrup]

I was mostly confused because he talked of spectral enemies

[radiant meadow]

I thought aether's whisper was a weapon for Polter

[ashen warren]

literally Astral Stardust sounds fine to me.

[smoky wagon]

astral ash

[ashen warren]

I don't know why I didn't recommend Astral Stardust earlier. Sounds much better than just Astral Dust. Plus Stardust is still in the name, and the Astral at the beginning clears up any confusion in relation to celestial Stardust. everyone wins.

[rancid silo]

hell yeah on the evaporator

[frank stratus]

huh i haven't looked at the suggestions for a while

been a while since i've seen a ~150 star suggestion

[marsh gust]

good suggestions are rare

[frank stratus]

tru

[ashen warren]

Also folks haven't been putting sprites in so much

[smoky wagon]

isnt astral furniture a thing already

[ashen warren]

No

!wiki Furniture sets

[red storm]

https://calamitymod.gamepedia.com/Furniture_sets

Calamity Mod Wiki

Furniture sets

Furniture sets are groups of Furniture items that share a common theme and are similar in appearance to one another. The Calamity Mod introduces seven new sets of furniture.

[smoky wagon]

hmm

alright then

[obtuse thicket]

Just an idea that I probably won't bring to proper suggestions, but should rouge weapons should be effected by melee flasks?

[ashen warren]

Flask of ichor affecting rogue weps would be pretty insane, maybe even OP tbh.

[placid moth]

Actually why not though

Given that rogue doesn't have its own damage buff potion

[sinful steeple]

A rogue potion would be cool

But ichor on all rogue weapons would be OP

[placid moth]

I mean, not having to switch weapons to inflict ichor does add some DPS

But then not having a rogue potion kinda makes up for it, imo.

[ashen warren]

Rogue is balanced around having neither atm.
If a potion like say, archery or magic power were introduced rogue would skyrocket to first place class in most areas.
Essentially, DQ bait: the class

[elfin maple]

I do think the Evaporator is a good idea, but, as PossessedByApplejack #3263 said, there should probably be a few more upgrades in between so it's not such an astronomical leap. What would these upgrades be in that situation? Maybe one could be called the "Dissector" in this line?

Or "Mutilator"

[sinful steeple]

I think the mutilator is already a weapon

[frail mantle]

there's already a sword named the Mutilator

[elfin maple]

hmm

oh there is

Dissector is not used though so that one's still fine

Maybe "Penetrator"?

[placid moth]

[elfin maple]

i understand your response and i very much disagree

[sinful steeple]

That is a very bad name

[ashen warren]

Mate, penetrator is a terrible name.

[elfin maple]

ok

more scientific proof that i suck at naming things

besides the name which does not seem to be a thing that is happening, how would these items be crafted

[placid moth]

Words cannot describe how much disgust and joy I derive from that name.

[elfin maple]

note that i was not thinking any dirty things when i came up with that name

and only realized the implications afterwards

alright so let's move past my inability to name things and talk about how you would obtain these items/how they work

Alright since no one seems to care I have named the item "Baconananug"

[marsh gust]

huh.. im p sure slimes that SG spawns drop mana stars..

iirc you could make do with celestial cuffs and shadowdrop and still not run out of mana

[rocky needle]

Yeah I thought they did too

[sinful steeple]

That's overpowered

Getting rid of the evil would be easy then

[opaque nest]

but the battle would be like prov level or smthn

[sinful steeple]

Then going into underground crimson/corruption would be a death sentence post-Plantera

[proven tide]

What the fuck is this

"- Stopping, slowing, or in any way modifying the spread of Hallow/Evil biomes
Note: Will not be implemented due to the terror of modifying hardcoded vanilla features"

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1OA3GxJ4w4QA4pCkngwt8kqW8Qq18U5KOCUJEucUS8ck/edit

I think this falls under that

[sinful steeple]

Oh yeah and that

[proven tide]

I understand that removing the presence of these biomes from a tile is easier than altering the spread algorithm, but I think the egregious degree of bullshittery behind this still qualifies it

[opaque nest]

well it could be a rare spawn

[proven tide]

Will not be implemented due to the terror of modifying hardcoded vanilla features

[ashen warren]

That’s not modifying the spread itself though, rather mass altering the world and that sounds messy asf anyways

[proven tide]

Yah

Like I said above: while turning its presence on or off is easier than altering the spread, the egregious degree of bullshittery still qualifies it under more or less the same area of 'please no'

[teal ibex]

i mean, i dunno how icky the api is, but it shouldn't be that hard, but certainly would be a huge lagspike if nothing else out of nowhere lol

i think there's a demographic of people who like managing the corrupt spread anyway though, and clentaminator exists by that point in the game so a hard reset would be kinda undesirable, at least to me

[urban slate]

Hey Terraria Guru Guys? Is there a mod that has a Dubstep Gun? If not, Calamity should try and make one, it'd be so epic!!!

[sinful steeple]

No

[mental path]

I think there was a hardmode weapon from thorium that's like a dubstep gun

[swift wharf]

yeah midnight bass booster

[sudden quail]

Bass Booster & Midnight Bass Booster. They're functionally and almost visually the same, but the former is a magic weapon, and the latter bard.

[hollow shell]

@mystic sandal You don't say what type weapon it is, but I assume it's a Flairon/Fugu-type flail?

[mystic sandal]

yeah

i'll edit it to specify which

[hollow shell]

Thank you

[mystic sandal]

np

[swift wharf]

i like it

[mystic sandal]

thanks

[fervent sky]

Thoughts on my suggestion?

[hollow shell]

The "left clicking" sentence seems to be missing a verb
and it's not recommended to have exact stats in suggestions
but
the suggestion itself is good

[fervent sky]

Aight, I'll fix that then

I usually just put in stats because it comes naturally, but I'll put a note that that's just my interpretation of them

Updated

[queen delta]

thoughts on my suggestion?

[hollow shell]

I would like shivs to continue past Elemental tier

[radiant meadow]

mfw greatsword of blah has been ignored

[swift wharf]

a tarragon/bloodcore shiv would be neat

[fervent sky]

Hmm, for my suggestion, should it be a book or a staff?

[frail mantle]

imo a book would feel more fitting for how it works

[fervent sky]

Ok

Although it is entirely crafted with staffs

Hmm

[real parrot]

me when i see another undertale reference in suggestions

[fervent sky]

[ashen warren]

ew

[queen delta]

so any feedback on my cosmic shiv suggestion or is it good?

[devout seal]

There already is a cosmic shiv.

[boreal matrix]

I would accidentally switch gravity with the Daedalus since I'm used to using the jetpack

[queen delta]

And whats the cosmic shiv?

[tender obsidian]

DoG tier shiv sounds very good

Don't know about a wulfrum summoner weapon tho - slime staff appears in starter bags and there isn't even a wulfrum tier mage weapon as far as I know.

[queen delta]

actually theres wulfrum staff

[azure condor]

powerful

[lost agate]

(sparking did better than wulfrum staff for me lmao)

[azure condor]

lol

[lost agate]

its mainly the fire debuff

and the fact it uses way less mana

[azure condor]

agreed

[cold terrace]

p sure the wulfrum yoyo is a blue checkmark

[lost agate]

it was suggested but never sent afaik

[radiant meadow]

wulfrum drone summon was sent last october

is that too late to get a blue check?

Rover can decide when he gets on

[void kelp]

will there ever be a cosmolite upgrade to shattered sun?

// was it suggested?

[mystic sandal]

thoughts on my idea

also i'll try and make one about that

[void kelp]

we can work on it together if you want!

[mystic sandal]

no, i'm fine

i'll make it first

let me know if you think anything's bad

[void kelp]

I like the idea of more flails since more flails better

send it here before you submit the suggestion!

[mystic sandal]

done

thoughts?

[void kelp]

pretty good I like the mix of pumpkin and frost moon

[azure condor]

shite

[mystic sandal]

thanks for the constructive criticism

[azure condor]

not you lol

i accedantally pressed enter

[mystic sandal]

accidentally*

[azure condor]

on the suggestion feed

in case anyone saw it i wanted to make sure people knew it was a mistake

i deleted

not you sorry lol your suggestion is great

[fresh harbor]

Post skeletron unlocks the bewitching table, too

[azure condor]

ye

not an accessory tho

i forgot to add the art i did for it too lol

[swift wharf]

the Swirling Devastation is kinda nice but

it needs an draedon forge

and at that point you already killed prov in the 2 biomes

[hollow shell]

what is exothermix energy

[radiant meadow]

nightmare fuel

[fresh harbor]

I don't get why is it locked behind prov if you need to kill doggo to craft it

[radiant meadow]

aka, someone forgot the name and thought it was the opposite

[hollow shell]

I thought that too until

@summer egret

[fresh harbor]

[radiant meadow]

o uhh

[hollow shell]

Exodium Clusters?

[radiant meadow]

maybe?

[hollow shell]

Also I fail to see the point of Paradox Energy if the weapon uses the same materials anyhow

[radiant meadow]

oh yeah, does a suggestion get a blue check if it was first sent back in October?

[west summit]

Ok so the channel topic says “suggestions for the mod or server” but I don’t see any server suggestions, is there like a stigma against server suggestions and should I just not give one?

[radiant meadow]

it's fine

[hollow shell]

Nah they just aren't common

[radiant meadow]

there's just way more mod suggestions

[hollow shell]

You're totally free to suggest stuff for the server

My cut-off date for bluechecks was always August/September, which I can tell because they lacked the proper tagging system in the dev server
but
It's probably time to shift the date forward a little

Which suggestion are you looking at?

[radiant meadow]

wulfrum drone suggestion

it was sent in october

[hollow shell]

Yeah, don't bluecheck that

[azure condor]

ooo what if there was a wulfrum bird (like the raven) and it could drop a wulfrum bird summon staff

dat would be neet

[hollow shell]

I'll uhh
I'll add an official cut-off date to the Suggestions Reactions Legend

Hereby October 1st, 2018
and we'll
adjust monthly

[fresh harbor]

No but people like using it as a "dislike" button

[real parrot]

meme channel? no thanks

[livid coral]

NO.

[real parrot]

we already have enough brainletery as is

[fresh harbor]

There's never going to be a meme channel

[west summit]

Rude

[hollow shell]

@west summit No

[proven tide]

NO

[fresh harbor]

n e v e r

[hollow shell]

Sorry, but we had one in the past and it only resulted in pain and torment

[livid coral]

We've done it before and it was hell

[west summit]

It wasn’t in the google doc

[hollow shell]

Sure, I can add it

[fresh harbor]

Good for pointing that out but yeah, meme channels happened before and they sounded catastrophic

[west summit]

Imma just yeet it out then

[livid coral]

It was awful

Thanks

Trust me you didn't want to see it.

[west summit]

How could it be that bad?

[real parrot]

trust us

[west summit]

Was it just like super offensive

[real parrot]

it's was just

[hollow shell]

Fabsol deleted it in a fit of rage without consulting anybody

That's how bad

[real parrot]

brainlets everywhere

quite the abhorred channel

[west summit]

Stop using big words I can’t understand them

[hollow shell]

[azure condor]

abhorred=shithole/pothole in a 100+mph highway

[hollow shell]

I'd equate it more to "terrible" or "disgusting" but yeah that works

Lots of other servers have meme offtopic channels

[livid coral]

When you have 30,000 people on it

Who have no sense of holding back you can get some really offensive and terrible things

Well I think it was 15,000 back then but still

[radiant meadow]

meaning now it'll be even worse

[livid coral]

We still meme and act silly

just... not as bad

[real parrot]

the mods do a good job to make sure that the channels stay on-topic most of the time and proper
take that away and you get insanity

[west summit]

Just like

Regulate it so it’s not offensive

4head

[radiant meadow]

it's hell to regulate

[west summit]

How big is your mod team?

[real parrot]

there's 30k members in this server and like 20 mods or so

they already have enough to worry about

[west summit]

That’s a decent amount of mods

But judging from how many are online right now I’d say a lot of them have the same time zone

[real parrot]

plus it wouldn't matter if some of the mods for some reason decided that adding this would be a good idea
fabsol would strike it down instantly

he doesn't want a meme channel. period

[west summit]

Or similar time zones anyways

[ashen warren]

Technically speaking if every person on this server talked then each mod would have 1500 folks to wrangle.
Offtopic channels draw in droves of people.

[west summit]

Except that you have to take into account people like me who are lurkers

[ashen warren]

Would you lurk if there was an offtopic channel?

[west summit]

Which I would bet to account for at least a third of the server

[real parrot]

i'll say it again for good measure:
fab does not want a meme channel. thus, there will not be a meme channel

ever

[west summit]

Yes

I would occasionally post a single meme but most people will just steal memes from an off-topic/meme channel

Also I get that this won’t happen I’m just talking about it to better understand the logistics

[livid coral]

We'd get a lot of people out of the wookworks to just meme and that's it

[real parrot]

memes don't belong here

[west summit]

I don’t see the problem in that

[livid coral]

This is a place to talk about Calamity and Terraria mods.

If you want to meme, go to a meme server

[west summit]

Bet

[real parrot]

no

[sinful violet]

We tried that

We don't talk about it anymore

[livid coral]

Oh yeah didn't it devolve into people just hating on the mod and then turned into Paint?

[sinful violet]

That was something else entirely.

[livid coral]

Or was Paint seperate

oh

[sinful violet]

We don't talk about it anymore

[livid coral]

Anyway

[west summit]

Just so you know meme servers don’t really exist, meme channels are added to already existing servers since a server based solely on memes wouldn’t survive

[hollow shell]

Now, you say that....

[west summit]

I mean it’s a discussion about a suggestion I made

[hollow shell]

technically it still has to do with Uno's meme channel suggestion

yeah

but
still this is a but excessive

It's already deleted :\

[west summit]

Sequence out here writing a 5 page essay

[ashen warren]

There's currently like 500ish people are actually active (as in, starring suggestions or talking) from what I've seen.
That'd jump MASSIVELY with an offtopic channel, to numbers that would fuck everything and require far more mods.
Suddenly needing more mods gives more chances for corrupt mods to slip in and a server to go to shit.
Remove the mod and there aren't enough mods and offtopic becomes cancer and toxicity.
I don't know everything, but I at least have an idea.
Meme channels start becoming stupid 4chan shit.
No.

[west summit]

Christ

You’d be surprised to see how well most meme channels turn out as long as the community isn’t a shithole

[real parrot]

there are tons of people active here

of which are very willing to post memes excessively

it'd get toxic fast

[ashen warren]

..Have you seen the old calamity community?
They're still here, just inactive cause otherwise they'd get sniped.

[west summit]

A lot of times the channel itself is lightly moderated and the staff leave it to the community to not post terribly offensive and bad memes

[ashen warren]

leave it to the community

[radiant meadow]

except I don't think I can trust the community

and cal mod talk can already be a hellhole to moderate

[livid coral]

Let me point out

when I first put General Media up and didn't putpermissions on it, COMPLETELY NEW PEOPLE came and jumped in and started spamming shit.

People I have NEVER seen before.

[west summit]

I’m just saying what has worked for servers with 25k+ members in it

[livid coral]

It varies between, those of us here who are nice and forthcoming, and then some really toxic memers/haters

[west summit]

And yea that happens when a channel is immediately put up

[livid coral]

And lurkers who are just here for the announcements

[west summit]

New stuff excites people

[livid coral]

Shouldn't excite them enough to post literal epileptic seizure inducing images

It's Terraria

Kids play this game

[west summit]

Ok then outlaw that kind of stuff

[livid coral]

Danny and Fab are not going to triple our workflow and stress us the hell out by making a bloody meme channel

[west summit]

You can set specific rules on what kind of stuff can be posted outside of just “no memes”

[livid coral]

They've said that specifically in Moderator Channel.

[radiant meadow]

It's much easier to direct people to a meme channel on another server tbh

and the occasional meme is still allowed in places like general talk (not media) and cal mod talk

just don't go overboard (and related to Calamity for cal mod talk)

[livid coral]

It's much smaller

But yeah trust me we've tried to be lax and have a meme channel and it was just horrific

[hollow shell]

@azure condor I'm late af but about your Ghastly Pendant/Cursed Gem suggestion
It'd definitely help to have some line breaks (aka Enters) separating the descriptions of the items from each other and the "why" section. That'd make it a lot easier to read

I'd also recommend putting the description of the Cursed Gem first instead of the upgrade
It's a bit of a confusing read currently

[cold terrace]

Exothermic energy? Isn’t that a bit redundant

[proven tide]

This is fucking magic

@ashen warren

oi oi star it my man

@restive cloud you might like to put that in the same suggestion

[restive cloud]

oh i can edit it in right

[lost agate]

That suggestion is a mood

[restive cloud]

I'm a stupid shit factory but sometimes it results in a good idea

I should make a game :o

[proven tide]

What a time to be alive

[quiet abyss]

"Actually this could work I just typed out dumb bullshit"
Might wanna remove that part, it makes the suggestion looks a bit too much like a joke suggestion which is not taken lightly by some regulars here

[restive cloud]

good point

[lost agate]

This is offtopic

So could you not?

[restive cloud]

i wasnt expecting anyone to take my suggestion seriously because me being taken seriously is out of character but people want the banana peel

[lost agate]

So pretty much thats a joke suggestion.

Or am i wrong?

[untold gulch]

but why

[restive cloud]

I mean I say very few things seriously but the banana peel is serious

What do the exclamation marks mean by the way

[lost agate]

[restive cloud]

Is that the "thumb down this sucks" option

I did

[lost agate]

Well seems like you didnt

[restive cloud]

On normal suggestions or this channel

I did on the suggestions

[quiet abyss]

This channel

[restive cloud]

Ok

Now I know

[untold gulch]

i mean the suggestions channel has it pinned too at the bottom

[ashen warren]

wait ping

Wtf is that?

[proven tide]

the banana peel

[dusty stirrup]

Uhhh, isn't 700 mana more than the limit?

[hollow shell]

I guess it'd just use the required number of mana potions from your inventory 🤷

also @frosty vortex Terraria and Calamity have got plenty of sharks
Big arms are the Reaper Shark's thing, s'what makes it so cool
It'd be weird to give em to GSS considering they have no connections whatsoever other than being sharks

and GSS already has going for it that it's the only shark in the desert aside from its quasi-cronies

imo at least

[proven tide]

Give the GSS legs

[hollow shell]

GSS's big front fins were actually meant to resemble a mole's claws
for digging through sand

[earnest raptor]

Uhhh

Damn discord

[ashen warren]

Did you go over character limit after typing 10+ minutes of stuff?

New class
lole

[proven tide]

I see the resemblance

[earnest raptor]

Ultimet armor
The armor of distant future
Post-DoG universal armor set

Headgear:
38 defense
30% increased damage
25% increased critical strike chance
+35 max hp and mana
Omni-vision
Water breathing effect

or

Headguard:
60 defense
8% increased damage
6% increased critical strike chance
10% increased damage reduction
+150 max hp and mana
Omni-vision
Water breathing effect

Breastplate:
56 defense
On getting hit your next melee strike deal 10x more damage, this effect have 10 second cooldown
You have a extended area of vision
On decreasing mana you gain speed and defense bonus
Your minions prioritises enemy, which deal damage to you
Give ability to hooking

Greaves:
34 defense
48% increased movement speed and max flight speed
10% increased max moving speed
Press Z to teleport to cursor, which have a 8 seconds cooldown

Set bonus:
30% increased fishing power and mining speed
9% increased damage reduction
You can move in water as on surface and swim
You take 15% less damage from Abyss enemies, including minibosses
You gain melee speed bonus as health gets lower
With Headpiece:
Every 3th critical hit creates a Nebula Booster
On getting hit you have a chance to unleash a rain of Sky Fracture swords
With Headguard:
On getting hit you have a chance to get additional defense in amount of 50% received damage
That bonus lasts a 4 seconds
Your DR increases, as life getting lower

Craft:
Head: 12 Silver/Tungsten Bar + 12 Cobalt/Palladium Bar + 10 Cosmilite Bars + 30 Ectoplasm + 12 Potion of Omniscence
Body: 16 Silver/Tungsten Bar + 16 Cobalt/Palladium Bar + 40 Ectoplasm + 12 Cosmilite Bars + Diamond Hook
Legs: 13 Silver/Tungsten Bar + 13 Cobalt/Palladium Bar + 35 Ectoplasm + 11 Cosmilite Bars + Rod of Discord
All recipes requires a Draedon's Forge

:why: :

1. Alternative set to God Slayer's.
2. A good multiclass set in post-ML, like Astral.

Yeah, i'm god of spriting.

[hollow shell]

@red tartan Sounds like it'd be better as a Summoner subclass
Or just
some new summon weapons themed around specific enemies/bosses

also wew bigpost

[ashen warren]

jesus

[proven tide]

Omni-vision
yes

[red tartan]

@hollow shell yeah i feel like it would be a subclass more than anything

[proven tide]

Press Z to teleport to cursor, which have a 8 seconds cooldown

[ashen warren]

Normality relocator, universal armor set, good stats obtainable post polter and those special effects seem pretty overpowered

Also a free dash which saves you another slot.

Cosmilite

[proven tide]

RoD, Normality Relocator, Universal Set, Binoculars

[ashen warren]

o

It's post-DoG

[proven tide]

teleport six times your screen length in two seconds

[ashen warren]

It's still ludicrous

Shit

[proven tide]

WHAT THE FUCK

That's gonna be a no from me

[hollow shell]

RoD and Normality aren't compatible

Both inflict Chaos State

[ashen warren]

"Every 3th critical hit creates a Nebula Booster"
oh
ok

This is scal armor.

Got it.

I don't see a trace of balance in this

[hollow shell]

This definitely seems like a thing but its design is really chaotic
Nothing really thematic or individually significant to cling on to

[ashen warren]

Dash and normality as part of armor is a yikes ngl.
Part of why it's so insane is that you now have 6 instead of 5 damage acc slots.

[hollow shell]

Normality isn't an accessory

Unless you meant the dash

[ashen warren]

Yar

[earnest raptor]

Okay

No dash

Now give a hook

[dusty stirrup]

Giving an armor a hook?

[ashen warren]

Still strong and it lacks a theme.

I don't see why this needs to exist.

[hollow shell]

I can definitely see the Calamity armor inspiration in this, being loaded with a bunch of tangentially related effects
but
in terms of suggestions and actually good memorable design grrr it should have a focus and generally be centered around one or maybe two concept(s)

[ashen warren]

And about that alchemist thing, ripping off possibly the worst content mod and adding a new class.
Gonna be a yikes from me dawg.

[dusty stirrup]

@red tartan If anything, stuff related to alchemy would just be rogue

[hollow shell]

Tremor worst content mod
Jetshift exists

[red tartan]

lol tremor is so bad

[tired haven]

Why can't both just be worst at once

[red tartan]

but i did like the idea of the alchemist class

[dusty stirrup]

Like I said, alchemy stuff could easily just be rogue

[hollow shell]

Tremor gets a lot of shit
but it's like a bad triple-A film among a sea of camcorder home movies

[ashen warren]

I get the feeling I should try jetshift

[dusty stirrup]

That's a really good comparison rover, holy shit

[hollow shell]

thanks

[red tartan]

lol

[fossil torrent]

agree it really is

[earnest raptor]

Ultimet armor
The armor of distant future
Post-DoG universal armor set

Headgear:
38 defense
30% increased damage
25% increased critical strike chance
+35 max hp and mana
Omni-vision
Water breathing effect

or

Headguard:
60 defense
8% increased damage
6% increased critical strike chance
10% increased damage reduction
+150 max hp and mana
Omni-vision
Mana regeneration effect

Breastplate:
56 defense
Every attack have a chance to create a laser barrage
You can use mana to fly in one direction
Laser weapons gains a 15% more damage
Give ability to instant hooking

Greaves:
34 defense
48% increased movement speed and max flight speed
10% increased max moving speed
Your boots leaves a damaging laser sparks
Nearby to you enemies will be obliterated
Press Z to teleport to cursor, which have a 8 seconds cooldown

Set bonus:
30% increased mining speed
9% increased damage reduction
You can ignore gravity reducing in Space
You take 15% less damage from hostile lasers
Your attacks inflicts Electrocuted
With Headpiece:
Every 3th critical hit creates a Nebula Booster
On getting hit you have a chance to unleash a rain of Sky Fracture swords
With Headguard:
On getting hit you have a chance to get additional defense in amount of 50% received damage
That bonus lasts a 4 seconds
Your DR increases, as life getting lower

Craft:
Head: 12 Silver/Tungsten Bar + 12 Cobalt/Palladium Bar + 10 Cosmilite Bars + 30 Ectoplasm + 12 Potion of Omniscence
Body: 16 Silver/Tungsten Bar + 16 Cobalt/Palladium Bar + 40 Ectoplasm + 12 Cosmilite Bars + Diamond Hook
Legs: 13 Silver/Tungsten Bar + 13 Cobalt/Palladium Bar + 35 Ectoplasm + 11 Cosmilite Bars + Rod of Discord
All recipes requires a Draedon's Forge

:why: :

1. Alternative set to God Slayer's.
2. A good multiclass set in post-ML, like Astral.

Yeah, i'm god of spriting.

[marsh gust]

difference with this n previous one is this one doesnt have a dash?

[dusty stirrup]

Instant hooking?

[ashen warren]

why are we here
just to suffer
every night, i can feel my wall of text
won't stop sending

[dusty stirrup]

So basically a delayed teleport?

[earnest raptor]

@dusty stirrup hook have a like 200 mph speed

[hollow shell]

So a not delayed teleport :P

[dusty stirrup]

lol

[earnest raptor]

@marsh gust more orientired to lasers

[marsh gust]

more like 72 for bathook iirc

[hollow shell]

Yeah he changed some other stuff

[earnest raptor]

Lasers, lasers, lasers

[dusty stirrup]

Also uh, why exactly does it have water-breathing?

[hollow shell]

Because late-game Calamity armor.

[dusty stirrup]

After the abyss' last tier

[marsh gust]

post DoG weapons that have lasers.. i can only think of obliterator tbh oh wait yharim's crystal.. exists hm..

[dusty stirrup]

Would alpha ray count too

[earnest raptor]

Also Alpha Ray, T1000, Aether's Whisper.

[ashen warren]

Does voltaic count

[earnest raptor]

Good question.

[ashen warren]

Orbs that make lasers

So yes

[dusty stirrup]

It's like... really niche for an universal armor

[hollow shell]

But are they lasers?

or some other variety of electricity beam

[ashen warren]

[earnest raptor]

@dusty stirrup it also have a offensive and defensive Helm, so

That's good

[marsh gust]

how much +% damage does auric tesla gives for mage?

[dusty stirrup]

Yeah but, 25% damage to laser weps is really niche

if it was an acc I could understand

[hollow shell]

20%, Latte

and crit chance.

[earnest raptor]

New feature

[marsh gust]

this one gives 30% + 25% for lasers so yharim's crystal for scal

[hollow shell]

Yeah but
no revives :{

[earnest raptor]

And no insane thorn effect.

[dusty stirrup]

cue nohitter laugh

[marsh gust]

dont rlly need revives if enemy is dead tbh

[hollow shell]

still gotta git gud at bullet hells

[earnest raptor]

For a remmant of revives you have a Ultimet Headguard

That gives to you a really good defense and can give even more.

[marsh gust]

imo personally its too strong for a post DoG armor, like last time when tarragon and bloodflare were bugged people still use em anyways

[dusty stirrup]

Yeah

Also like

nebula boosters

The whole reason nebula armor is pretty op

[earnest raptor]

On what stage that should stays?

Post-Darksun?

[dusty stirrup]

Probs

[ashen warren]

Hive Pod--

[frail mantle]

two viable summon weapons excluding sentries

[ashen warren]

[proven tide]

@frail mantle Perhaps add the Hive Pod/Dreadmine Staff into that recipe?

[frail mantle]

maybe the Dreadmine since it works sorta similarly

[ashen warren]

Dreadmine Staff btw and not Dreadimine, just pointing it out @frail mantle

[frail mantle]

fug

[frank stratus]

dreadimine staff

[frail mantle]

[frank stratus]

[proven tide]

pantomime stoff

[ashen warren]

my sprites are bad you prbl shouldnt use them if you do the massive mistake of accepting one of my suggestions

[placid moth]

Is that just a resprite of titanium shuriken

[distant gyro]

when a shuriken doesn't have sharp edges

[ashen warren]

i used the titanium shuriken as a reference, i did not recolor it

[placid moth]

Uhh okay ?

[ashen warren]

now that i look at them both they are actually kinda simmilar

i only used the titanium shuriken as a reference to give me an idea of how the outlines should be, not the color

[sudden quail]

Late response, but pass on the GSS suggestion. I like the fact that it's simply a giant, ruthless sand shark. Sure it's got some evolutionary traits here and there, but it's nothing over the top, and I'd say its design fits for its tier in the mod.

[strong yew]

The GSS is based around it's real life counterpart btw, so why add buff arms to it?

[cunning comet]

Arms for digging, much more useful on land than sea

[bitter topaz]

@near crown suggestions for the wiki don't go in here, they should go in #wiki-basic

here's wiki contributor so you can put it in there in your own time, and i'll also leave your suggestion there until you do.

[near crown]

doen

done*

[bitter topaz]

[worn salmon]

yay my suggestion reached 90 stars

[placid moth]

yay ?

[worn salmon]

its 90 for the suggestions to reach devs

right?

[bitter topaz]

yea it's 90

you've just gotta wait for a dev to look through and send it

[worn salmon]

oh

aight

thanks

[ashen warren]

@worn salmon, the overdone suggestions doc has anti-rope cheese in it fyi.

[worn salmon]

ping

oh

[clear basin]

i am an idiot and dont know how to hold shift

[ashen warren]

Astral monolith is like pearlwood, utter trash and it always will be trash.

[clear basin]

no it looks cool

add astral wood armor

[dense oriole]

Well, cool trash can be recycled.

[clear basin]

^

[marsh gust]

iirc theres a "make the rock placeable" suggestion that got sent to dev server not long ago

[untold gulch]

boi placable rock has been sent to the devs

[ashen warren]

☑

[marsh gust]

guess i'll blue check it

[ashen warren]

Crafts the S T O N E

[untold gulch]

three rocks and some sticks gets you a stone pick

[ashen warren]

[vestal elbow]

make the rock summon a moth

[ashen warren]

Providence?

[clear basin]

no

just a small moth

[marsh gust]

make the rock equipable pet slot, summons a small moth to guide you to the light

[untold gulch]

sometimes you could even hear it call out "lomp"

[placid moth]

hear it call out "SIP!"

[clear basin]

SIP!

judge my submission

[ashen warren]

Rouge

[clear basin]

i have no idea how to spell at all apparently

[ashen warren]

second one at the bottom fyi

[clear basin]

gotted

[ashen warren]

Lole

It's kinda bland ngl, doesn't seem like a good ML or fish wep due to mobility, duststorm already destroys rav.
If it was later or earlier or not another nade I'd like it more.
So, bad for tier cause boss design mostly, bland design imo.
Though, martian stealthyboi weapon sounds cool, looking forward to others.

[clear basin]

yeah ill admit kinda hard to compete with duststorm

idk ill let the people judge

ngl was kinda shooting for more of a fun meme weap than a boss killer

but not a meme suggestion just a fun wepaon

[ashen warren]

if you put a singularity in a grenade then an event horizon would be created

which is bad but ok video game logic

[distant gyro]

don't question game logic

[untold gulch]

i mean if ceaseless void collapses itself everytime you defeat it then why not have timed black holes

[radiant meadow]

@frail mantle might want to say that it replaces Sun God Staff in immat recipe

[frail mantle]

oh yea

[radiant meadow]

@dense oriole you'll have to be more specific in regards of what you think astral monolith could be used for

[ashen warren]

@red tartan the pins say suggestions that add entire bosses will always be rejected, you requested an entire fucking class

[untold gulch]

except people haven't beaten around that bush before

[bitter topaz]

boss suggestions are ignored solely because fab has all the bosses planned out

if a "new class" suggestion gets to the dev server maybe it won't be implemented in its entirity, but he might use a concept from it here and there

[distant gyro]

a new class is just hard to implement (I assume) but sometimes they're interesting

[untold gulch]

tbh only frustrating thing about the necromancer suggestion is the formatting and the lack of explanation for the revived creatures

[queen delta]

Yeah tbh every suggestion should have some indepth explanation instead of "add this cuz"

[distant gyro]

if there's a huge doc with everything in it then the class might be a yes

tbh

[keen palm]

Make the Clentaminator's Solutions craftable
Why?: Sometimes, biome generation like the Crimson, Hallow, even Astral doesn't line up well with some spots, like a desert or ice biome, making you have to go out of your way to house the Steampunk in multiple sections of your world just so you can get specific materials, like Light Shards. That's inconvenient, and litters your world with basically shacks.

Some crafting recipes for solutions could be:
Green Solutions, Evil Seeds, Fetid Essence/Bloodletting Essence for the Evil Solutions;
Green Solution, Stardust, Fallen Stars, Astral Monolith (?) for Astral Solution, etc.

Let me know if I forgot anything for the suggestion format

[sleek wadi]

I mean, your problem could be solved with a couple of queen statues. You don't need to litter your world with shacks.

[ashen warren]

Imagine spawning Nurse, Party Girl, Dryad, Stylist, Mechanic all before hand

[distant gyro]

there's also convenient Steampunker has awoken spawns