You must've had apoth enabled
#suggestions-discussion
faint rivet
frail mantle
Well afaik the only mod that still has him is ApothFriends
faint rivet
^
autumn lion
i only had calamity and cheat sheets installed
faint rivet
Doubt
autumn lion
i don't even know what's ApothFriends
faint rivet
I think you're bluffing tbf
autumn lion
i'm not
faint rivet
Prove it
faint rivet
See, removed
frail mantle
Get another picture from the current update with it in your inventory
ashen warren
Do so in another channel tbh, this convo's derailed from being about suggestions.
faint rivet
^
autumn lion
I lost my character
i reinstalled the game 5 times because of a corruption
lost everything
or else if would screen it rn
faint rivet
Excuses 
ashen warren
I just asked you to move 
autumn lion
anyway i'm done
so no thanks
@faint rivet if you want the screen i have it, add me on discord i show you there
bitter topaz
@gentle chasm this isn't the place to suggest things for any guide
gentle chasm
then where?
bitter topaz
if you mean the github one, that's now abandoned, and if you mean the wiki one i'll give you wiki contributor so you can suggest it in there
elder kestrel
what, was the guide abandoned?
gentle chasm
oh nevermind, the one im referring to is the github one
bitter topaz
i assume it was since it's no longer pinned in #help-advice-read-pins iirc
and the wiki guide seems to have replaced it
worthy fiber
It hasn't been updated in a while either, has it?
elder kestrel
it wasn't abandoned
marsh gust
its just.. not updated in a while i guess..
ever since terra weaps r post plantera
worthy fiber
Merkalto maintains the class setups page iirc
elder kestrel
If you want to suggest things, do so in the guide server
the invite to the server can be found in the guide
gentle chasm
there's a guide server?
elder kestrel
yes, found in the guide itself
gentle chasm
oh
worthy fiber
@gentle chasm you'd want to provide a reason for that, mate
gentle chasm
basically, they can do over 300 damage on crit.
worthy fiber
Mention it in the suggestion
gentle chasm
fixed it
cyan lagoon
I dont see how crits are a problem
marsh gust
honestly.. you should base your reasoning on smthng that vague..
cyan lagoon
If anything the critical strike chance seems to be the fault here, not the wep
marsh gust
singular crits doesnt contribute to a whole fight
frail mantle
Many weapons in that part of the game can get 300 damage crits afaik
keen nebula
Make the fish in the abyss move out of the way when you get close to them
worthy fiber
buh why
worthy fiber
quick dove
hec's suggestion went through the roof
ornate pecan
Yeah that just means I'm never going to see success anytime, because dammit mine just don't catch the eye as much
frail mantle
a way to get popular suggestions is give them sprites make it something that the public also wants, like making a boss easier, or adding a weapon in a part of the game where a class suffers
faint rivet
Jesus 129 stars
tired haven
A suggestion about removing caps tends to disagree
Despite being totally what public would want secretly
faint rivet
Wat
gusty geode
Yeah
Not everyone likes not having more than 30% DR
Some people like playstyles that aren't glass cannon
faint rivet
Gimme another difficulty beyond death with a hardcap of 20% DR 
Deathmode is literally not supposed to be tankable
ornate pecan
Key word, DEATH
faint rivet
ornate pecan
Ok Armstrong, don't lose your heart
worthy fiber
Sure you could go for a more forgiving playstyle, but tanking is what's trying to be avoided
lost agate
You... Only take 1/4 of dmg on 75% DR.....
Not to mention its a softcap so you can go further ....
OP? Idk maybe?
faint rivet
Maybe
lost agate
Not like youre only 25% away from being literally inmortal
A lot of items shouldnt give that much DR to begin with
Going past 50% is already dumb and with no caps you can reach 104%
faint rivet
104% 
lost agate
Also, what other difficulty that isnt death has this cap?
Rev
So if you wanna tank shit with all your DR feel free to go to a difficulty that allows it
(wait,the cap is rev+ right?)
lost agate
Its an entire new, harder difficulty, so ofc its gonna make it harder to beat the game not only by making everything stronger
lost agate
Also, the DR that goes over the cap turns into defense btw
If ya didnt read changelogs
faint rivet
I want less DR tbh 
gusty geode
Doesn't it just get turned back into DR from there tho, or what
lost agate
Wh
gusty geode
Like, I has heard somewhere defense increased your DR a little
lost agate
Thats the warding reforge
But if you go past 30% DR the DR that goes over the cap becomes defense
gusty geode
Huh, ok
keep in mind for the future that I'm not confident in a word I say
lost agate
And i shall keep in mind that you were told to do more research before too
gusty geode
Yeah, haven't gotten there yet
School stuff
But I have an idea of how DR works, and I think only taking 40% damage is just barely balanced
lost agate
The game lets you have 100% DR, let that sink in
tired haven
60% DR is 2.5x the life time
It's huge
tired haven
And that's not even considering regen which makes the more benefit the less dmg you take
faint rivet
100% DR is ∞x the life time 
tired haven
So you practically turn invincible/barely scratched at certain point
earnest raptor
Decent?
faint rivet
worthy fiber
faint rivet
I'm all for going omegasquish on deathmode if it means more damage 
tired haven
^ I tanked several hits even in not the fattest true melee builds easily
lofty blade
If you get oneshot you're doing something wrong
tired haven
No warding, max shield as defense acc
rapid pivot
Warding is silly on rev past a certain poont
lost agate
See: provi, the damaging flames deal 300 dmg but you have like 760 by that point
And the flames are what do the most dmg whatsoever
lost agate
No
earnest raptor
Okay, -12%.
lost agate
Also, its not like death adren or rage are overkill already, no no, lets make them even stronger amirite
earnest raptor
but even if that get busted, I will port all my amazing modes into my future suggestions mod
ashen warren
let me just use shrooms, double rippers while this difficulty mode being active and melt bosses
totally not broken
ashen warren
oyes
earnest raptor
Changed.
ornate pecan
Huh, so that is what Leviathan does
ashen warren
I can just turn off armageddon to not get affected by that 50% decrease
earnest raptor
That is reason, why wurms, eyes and skulls is silly
lost agate
What nam said
earnest raptor
Okay, my anticheese doesn't work.
lost agate
How was that a cheese to begin with?....
earnest raptor
Changed. 👌
ashen warren
void kelp
@modest hill I think you just cheesed her tho so that’s why it was easier
modest hill
yeah and that should be banned probably
worthy fiber
We aren't really going to implement restrictions for those kinds of stuff anymore iirc
ornate pecan
Nice one, Relevant
void kelp
I think teleport cheese requires a bit more work than like, gravpot cheese
modest hill
gravpot cheese? Don't know about it
void kelp
mech bosses + astrum deus used to be easily cheesable w gravpot, but now they enrage if you reverse gravity
vestal elbow
why tho 
lost agate
Because cheesing isnt good
lost agate
Oh
void kelp
laughs in muted
lost agate
Uh, eh, thats uh an odd suggestion
ornate pecan
Dubstep gun anyone
void kelp
it sounds cool at least but idk abt execution.
chrome holly
If I suggest putting "Your father smells of these!" in the description of elderberries, does that count as a meme?
faint rivet
Idk
lost agate
Idk is it?
queen iris
which father
chrome holly
come on, guys...
"Your mother is a hamster, and your father smells of elderberries! Now go away or I shall taunt you a second time!"
ashen warren
Yes that would count as a meme, so best not to do that
radiant meadow
@toxic pagoda might want to rename it; Mariana is already the name of a sword
toxic pagoda
ah. Okay.
placid girder
so is this just a normal yoyo
radiant meadow
also, adding a why it should be added would help
placid girder
because that sounds fun for p2 yharon
radiant meadow
or any special effects
toxic pagoda
Im still thinking
But I know it should be fast like Aorta, but last longer
Ok now I'm done
rustic ember
Scythe of the Seas
A rogue weapon dropped by Duke Fishron. It travels in a straight line and pierces infinitely occasionally spawning bubbles that explode on contact in its path. It also has a 20% every time it hits an enemy to spawn 4 smaller scythes that surround the enemy and quickly charge into them.
Why?
Duke Fishron doesn't drop any weapons for rogue meaning they can skip over an interesting boss fight because they don't need any loot from since Xeroc wings are better than Fishron and the Shrimpy Truffle isn't too useful.
What are everyone's thoughts on this?
Need to work on the name though
sinful steeple
Yes
cyan lagoon
@olive yacht could you explain a possible crafting recipe
olive yacht
15 wood and 5 books maybe? and 2 silk
distant gyro
why make tinker thing craftable though
bitter topaz
i really dislike that concept 
letting the workshop be craftable early sounds nearly as bad as when the alchemy table was in the planetoids
gusty geode
I keep saying there's a difference between QoL and cheating
There are some things you should have to earn, and the workshop is one of them
distant gyro
^
olive yacht
qol?
sleek wadi
The only reason I could see for craftable tinker table is if you get really bad goblin tinkerer RNG
distant gyro
unless your tinkerer is dead but shouldn't you buy the workshop as soon as you can find the dude?
finding the goblin still requires work
and rng
radiant meadow
it could be locked behind some bosses
gusty geode
Quality of life
Little timesavers like blood orbs
radiant meadow
like maybe require Bones
sleek wadi
Make it require Spike Balls. Makes it post-Goblins by using a common drop
gusty geode
And it's already locked behind the goblin invasion
Summoning item for that is piss-easy to make if you're in a rush, and you're bound to get one naturally pretty early on, anyway
distant gyro
then again, you can use that spike balls to use it against the goblin anyways
gusty geode
Also adding spiky balls to the recipe is a bad idea
The tinkerer sells those so you could buy some balls and make a workshop instead of buying one directly
void kelp
idea: rogue weapon that drops from plantera that’s just the spiky balls
bc it’d be fun to throw a bouncing pink spiky ball at enemies
gusty geode
I swear, it feels like some of the people around here will do anything to skip over the gaps between boss fights
I don't play rogue so I wouldn't know if that's a good idea
void kelp
are they the only two options tho
radiant meadow
mangrove chakram
void kelp
unless you count like,, brimblade, the chakram
radiant meadow
brackish flask
distant gyro
brackish
plant tier
distant gyro
If that's the case then Radiant Star and HFSD should too tbh
distant gyro
right after plant
radiant meadow
they're much easier if you can afford to get hit tbf
and god slayer inferno from the astrum duo is no joke
placid girder
What do people think about adding recall pots to starting bag
gusty geode
I say maybe one
If you're going far enough away that you would need one, unless you're super unlucky you'll have already found several in the chests/pots you pass by
And by that logic there's a good chance you'll have found a mirror, too
fresh harbor
I think it's unnecessary
They already add spelunker and mining potions so with those alone you can already get a handful of recalls early on
ornate pecan
Ok, I'm currently making concepts for my tree tapping idea
smoky wagon
What if the magic mirror used recall potions in its crafting recipe 🤔
sinful steeple
Good idea
void kelp
wait I thought it did
sinful steeple
Iirc it's iron glass and stars
sinful steeple
Literally everything in it is easy to stockpile and incredibly common
While recall potions are commonly used and although incredibly common you'd need to save some for magic mirror, and it would be much harder to craft if it required recall potions in bulk
sinful steeple
I was thinking 30
smoky wagon
Caving is like the first thing you do after you make some basic gear
smoky wagon
that works also but the loot isnt as good
and you usually get walled by evil biome at the very start
sinful steeple
Evil biome meet one fast boi with a boomerang
void kelp
who would win: evil biome or slime staff
smoky wagon
my shitty dodging skills
cloud sage
hollow shell
@narrow bluff Remove that parenthesis-bound statement immediately 
narrow bluff
I'm sorry
frank stratus
hollow shell
not going to be a Gamer for much longer, then.
warm grove
omae wai mou nani
narrow bluff
But seriously, do you want me to delete the part about worm boss?>
hollow shell
Yes
hollow shell
Boss suggestions aren't allowed, and neither are jokes, so oof
narrow bluff
Ok
frank stratus
oof
hollow shell
Otherwise
That's a good suggestion
Surprisingly I don't think I've seen somebody suggest that yet
Or if it has been suggested it was like
once
frank stratus
loloops i didn't read the full suggestion
formal iron
Yeah, i really like it too
Especially as a guy who collects lore stuff for the sake of it but accidentally trashes stuff that's important
narrow bluff
What if I ask for a worm boss outside of suggestions?
hollow shell
Then it'll be ignored, lol
frank stratus
then it wouldn't be considered 
narrow bluff
Oof
low remnant
I like the idea of craftable lore, but I think it should be crafted with one relevant item dropped by the boss, e.g. one Shadow scale for EoW, beewax or hive blocks for Queen Bee, etc.
narrow bluff
That's a neat idea
void kelp
Oh that’s a good way to make sure you can only get the lore if you’ve beaten the boss
reef escarp
Wow ⭐ 161 stars
frank stratus
yeah thats good
ashen warren
Well excuse me!!
earnest raptor
Knight's Edge
strong yew
Who even needs a night's yoyo when you've got night's [name of weapon] from other mods?
earnest raptor
Night's Yoyo already present in Thorium🤔
strong yew
earnest raptor
Yeah.
ashen warren
alright i get it, bad idea
smoky wagon
There isnt a yoyo in the exo tier of weapons
strong yew
something something a yoyo crafted with Shimmerspark, Quagmire and Chaotrix cuz of the Bar of Life recipe
ashen warren
ahem Please elaborate.
As-is that suggestion is low quality and could get the star removed.
Reasoning and what they actually do would help.
@ashen warren
Fair enough
Fixed
void river
Hmmm
Feel like rogue class needs a chlorophyte or hallowed varient for armor
Because you litterally only get the deadalus armor as a dedicated rogue armor
void river
I meant at that point in the gamr
ashen warren
Unholy core armor should definitely be a thing, making it rogue would be hot.
Daedalus isn't dedicated rogue.
Heh hot
void river
I meant rogue having a dedicated rogue helmet for deadalus armor
Because pre and post mech bosses, thats the only armor you can get specifically for rogue
tired haven
You can't get it pre technically as cryogen is mech tier boss 🤷
And well, I could agree on rogue needing armor at this point (Daedalus to Reaver is 7 bosses), but it's unlikely to be a helmet to existing set
ashen warren
An abyss themed, tenebris armor would actually work perfectly for the sneeky rogue.
Since tenebrous means..
"Dark and gloomy."
tired haven
I forgot, is tenebris mineable with pickaxe axe or smth else?
Because if so, that's ideal pretendent
faint rivet
Pickaxe axe afaik
ashen warren
200% iirc
turbid sedge
Yeah it's 200%
ashen warren
So yer drax/pick-axe
tired haven
That's incredibly worthy suggestion then
Just to add more materials, set bonus and so on
ashen warren
I haven't made a suggestion in a while and an armor like that would def be swanky for rogue expansion.
After I'm done bashing my head against a wall I'll do that.
earnest raptor
Any ideas?
ashen warren
So, rogue seems to be a class themed around stealth, medium iq stuff, and hard single hit things.
At least, the new stuff is.
Nails seem to be about low damage and high-multihit, this synergizes terribly with stealth.
An example of a good stealth weapon is the seafoam bomb or duststorm in a bottle due to lingering and pretty high base damage, an example of a bad stealth weapon is mycoroot or cosmic kunai since they don't linger, they attack fast so they chew through stealth fast, and they have low base damage.
Nails seem to be mostly trumelee which is alright and fits the rogue theme somewhat (see also, fabs rogue message in announcements) however that doesn't lend itself to weapons like stardisk as trumelee boils down to just wait for ripper 90% of the time.
Your suggestion isn't bad, far from it.
It's actually pretty darn good.
In fact if someone wants to make a HK themed mod they should take notes tbh.
However it fits rogue about as well as a pancake's effectiveness as a parachute.
@earnest raptor
rustic ember
I'm gonna post my suggestion
earnest raptor
Who bother
Now there are very hard single hits, but all pre-ML have a very slow-extremely slow time use
So, as I want, throwable stuffs is for range combat with decent speed, and nails is for ludicrous damage, but close combat and small DPS.
signal prairie
whats with the recent influx of rogue weapons?
earnest raptor
@ashen warren how about current stats?
earnest raptor
Exo-blade have a 6500.
ashen warren
It has less of that issue now.
Though I personally think that it's a tad too many items for a subclass and that rogue should be higher iq and trumelee only.
Now it's aight, might star but I gotta go for a bit.
strong yew
There's nails from JoostMod btw.
tired haven
This is WIP suggestion
"
Moonlight Pendant
Post-Moon Lord true melee accessory
"Full moon is rare but impending"
- Turns wearer in werewolf at any time (day/night), providing additional stats
- After 28 uses of [true melee] weapon, you gain Striking Moment buff for 1 second
For info: Striking Moment - 500% (5x) damage on a single Melee type attack.
Crafting recipe: Moon Charm, 5 Souls of Fright, 10 Luminite Bars @ Ancient Manipulator
Purpose: Lets True Melee expand in post-ML realities without making utterly broken blades. Allows for deeper gameplay strategies like swinging sword to build up the strong attack while dodging and then hitting the boss when it opens up.
Also counts as sub-par Melee accessory due to Werewolf stat buffs at day.
Note: Raw DPS increase with this accessory in this configuration is ~14% if constantly hitting the enemy, up to 400% if some swings miss a target. Swords that spawn projectiles on hit (Stellar Striker, etc.) are affected less due to the fact Striking Moment affects single instance of damage instead of all hits during a swing, favoring more simple swords (The Mutilator, etc.).
Of course, all numbers are subject to change by a dev team if required.
"
How nice is that looking, to be suggested? Anything to add or polish?
I probably need to do it a bit shorter lmao
note will get the boot
ashen warren
So essentially, guaranteed mega crit every 28 uses.
And you're a wolf.
Feels kinda simple for luminite tier but it sounds aight.
noble turret
uh
ashen warren
Ooo, would make mirror blade a big boi.
sinful steeple
Y'know what'd be cool
noble turret
wouldn't that be OP on rapid weapond
tired haven
Well, you see, the devil hides in that you need to use weapon 28 times, not land 28 hits. Could dodge for 5 secs and then slap like a big boi without dying to facetanking
noble turret
mantis claws etc
tired haven
Also about rapid weps, see the note
ashen warren
I doubt it would trivialize content crumbs.
strong yew
Here's something, 'Suggestions that might require keybindings.'
sinful steeple
A sword that when swung makes you dash at your cursor and on hit deals no knockback but knocks you away
So true melee without crashing into any bosses you fight
tired haven
So basically SoC bonk but a sword?
sinful steeple
Yeah
tired haven
Pretty hot, I should say
May need some practice to get used to dash but feels neat
sinful steeple
I mean I doubt it's even possible to code but if it was it would be a neat and possibly viable group of true melee weapons
noble turret
its possible
ashen warren
Honestly there's only 1 thing for trumelee to become an actual thing.
The homing kick move from MGR:R
Perhaps having custom boss reactions for it.
That wep could be an upgraded version or smth, maybe even a line of upgrades.
sinful steeple
True melee could be a really interesting class with good use of dash mechanics and stuff
ashen warren
Imagine if weaponout katanas but calamity.
sinful steeple
I'd also like to see a shortsword that you hold out in front of you for a while and makes you drill dash at your cursor(controllable) but has long use time so that you can't fly with it
Although that's definitely not possible to do
ashen warren
Hmm, y'know the angel ring?
The kinda pointless 25% wingtime thing?
What if you added some trumelee bonuses to it, maybe that could be the first distance-closing item for trumelee, gives the homing kick I mentioned or smth.
Dashes currently aren't enough, specifically for bosses such as scal since you can attack her at 1 point.
Maybe 2 if you count dashes.
sinful steeple
I don't like mean current dashes, I mean stuff like short controllable dashes and stuff and other wacko stuff like downward kicks or something
ashen warren
That's what I'm talking about.
sinful steeple
Shield blocking could also be a cool mechanic
ashen warren
If it wasn't locked to that stupid OOA item that'd be nice.
cyan lagoon
@mystic sandal crystalline in the crafting section may need to be changed
Since it has its own upgrade path
radiant meadow
lionfish
void kelp
ok kinda dumb q but the ranger and mage have a night’s edge type weapon??
mystic sandal
lunarian bow/night's ray
radiant meadow
if you want to call them that
void kelp
ah
ashen warren
Where's a jungle, hell, and dungeon wep?
mystic sandal
i'm not even sure if there are any dungeon/jungle/hell rogue weapons
void kelp
rogue doesn’t have it ;(((
tired haven
Hell no
Dungeon no
Jungle no
cyan lagoon
@proper sail um
proven tide
nanda yo
ashen warren
God-tier suggestion.
proven tide
What a time to be alive
radiant meadow
@proper sail that's a bug with another mod
cyan lagoon
Dont do that please
radiant meadow
not to go in that channel
cyan lagoon
Wrong channel and all /shrug
cyan lagoon
@proper sail stop
proven tide
Literally everything about this is wrong
frail mantle
I’m just gonna assume it was a brain moment and move on
untold gulch
good suggestion, but why specifically 28 hits?
placid moth
How about changing the buff stats to that of a Celestial Shell and making it such that when you strike an enemy with 1 true melee strike, it gives "Striking Melee buff", which gives some melee buff damage. (But not 500%)
Having to tally a certain number of true melee strikes for a damage buff is a little strange for me.
hollow shell
(btw just wanna make sure it's clear
https://terraria.gamepedia.com/Striking_Moment
Vanilla buff)
placid moth
Wait what
Are you serious
well let's just combine that OOA weapon with celestial shell
hollow shell
I'm surprised I don't hear more about Brand of the Inferno
considering it allows you to block attacks and gives you a significant buff
Maybe I'm just outta the loop
placid moth
Maybe OOA is somewhat forgettable
Is Solar Eruption considered True Melee, actually ?
placid moth
I was very surprised that was in vanilla terraria.
ashen warren
Brand can block attacks but it deals like 0 damage.
A blocking acc would be far more useful.
hollow shell
Yeah but like
block the attack with Brand
then switch to a different weapon
tired haven
@hollow shell the way you get this buff is so obscure even I don't dare to use this weapon aside from some memes like one-shotting vanilla dg
Specifically parrying something that is not fighter ai
Let alone later bosses
hollow shell
Is Brand not a part of any big metas for late game bosses?
It seems like it should be
Free dodges with no cooldown, which even buff you
Granted you gotta have good timing
hollow shell
Aww what
tired haven
Plus requirement to switch to proper wep and back
ashen warren
Parrying doesn't give enough iframes with calamity prolly.
You don't take damage when blocking though?
tired haven
You do
hollow shell
Wait no it only grants 20 defense if you dont time it properly
ashen warren
"When timed correctly, just before taking a hit, the enemy's attack will be blocked, dealing some damage to the attacker and granting the Striking Moment buff for the next five seconds. This allows your next melee attack to deal 500% more damage. Alternatively, if the shield is held in place, 20 defense is temporarily gained; this lasts until the shield is once again lowered."
hollow shell
If you get the right timing it completely negates it
tired haven
Well that never worked for me
Closest I had was like 1-2 possible frames while enemy took kb due to parry
ashen warren
So it's a full dodge for contact damage.
tired haven
Dmg is about 40 btw
ashen warren
It doesn't work for projectiles iirc.
tired haven
Only enemies,yes
ashen warren
I've used the weapon like once, so I know almost nothing about it.
It'd only be useful for maybe dragonboi.
tired haven
Btw even percentage listed is wrong
It gives exactly 500% of original damage (multiplicative) , not 500% more
So basically 5x multiplier
hollow shell
Would be better to say it deals 5x damage yeah
tired haven
Well, anyway, probably need to be 300 iq dude to use brand properly
Have yet to see someone using it unironically
hollow shell
Damn
I have 400 iq, can't use it.
tired haven
Life sucks for you man
hollow shell
I'm gonna try
to use Brand on some late-game guys
later today or tomorrow maybe
Sounds like untapped potential
tired haven
Most I dished out of it was 22k single strike dmg to oneshot dg, as I said
Personally I doubt there is much use because by time you switch up for most swords you get 5 swings normally to compensate
hollow shell
But you also get hit 
clear basin
Good suggestion crabman
tired haven
Thanks! That one didn't took long to think on but guess it's still decent
ashen warren
Dedicated items are up to the person in question.
hollow shell
@ashen warren Dev items arent allowed to be suggested
ashen warren
DM hasn't said anything about getting his hammer in.
I am clearly not winning with these suggestions
hollow shell
lol
placid moth
Slime People 
azure condor
Bland but might work
ashen warren
I'm so used to not starring suggestions that I forgot to star crabs suggestion
faint rivet
alpine copper
(What do you guys think about this)
◇ Make the Diamond Ring useful:
The diamond ring, the one sold by the traveling merchant, is quite expensive for just some vanity, i suggest the following buff:
15% increase to true melee dmg only
10% increase to all types of dmg with exception of true melee due to boost above
10% increased movement speed
- 20 mana and health
I mean, the diamond ring does absolutely nothing guys come on
errant spear
I assume you mean 1 and not all of those
alpine copper
At least 2 of those yeah
faint rivet
I mean it's purpose is literally vanity
quick dove
all of those are kind of op you know
faint rivet
It is pre-boss
quick dove
its an ore obtainable pre hardmode pre boss but can help even in post like mechs or plantera
ashen warren
What are you going on about lime?
radiant pivot
those buffs do seem on par with many hardmode items
definitely too op for prehardmode imo
ashen warren
+50 mana and health
torn cliff
Probably make it scale like the siren's heart
ruby cobalt
no scaling
alpine copper
Thats why i said only 2 of those buffs
Also scaling with bosses killed can actually be a solution
ashen warren
Scaling is either strong or weak.
It deletes farming or it's far too weak to ever use.
As such it's used for a meme and the strongest multi-stat in the game and that's it.
sleek wadi
It is also used for HotE's elementals and Profaned Soul Artifact's minions.
ashen warren
HotE and PSA are both on the delete farm side tbf.
alpine copper
◇ Make the Diamond Ring useful:
The diamond ring, the one sold by the traveling merchant, is quite expensive for just some vanity, i suggest the following buff:
15% increase to true melee dmg only
10% increase to all types of dmg with exception of true melee due to boost above
10% increased movement speed
- 20 mana and health
Reduced buffs a bit and removed some
How's it now
?
hearty spade
A pre-boss accessory as strong as some post-ML accessories
alpine copper
Removed the DR and use speed boost qnd reduced stat boosts
hearty spade
Sure
hearty spade
I would just leave it as a vanity item, don't really see the point in making useful an item that you can theorically get whenever you want but that costs too much for like all of pre-hardmode and is sold randomly too
alpine copper
Well making it only available in HM is an option
hearty spade
Why not making a whole new accessory then
alpine copper
Cuz while i know that it is as simple as just dont buy it, i really think that its not ok that the traveling merchant, as annoyingly random his stock is, charges that much for vanity with no special effects
azure condor
Memes
ashen warren
companion cube exists 
alpine copper
Besides its not bad to try giving the ring a practical use (the cube its a pet, it doesnt count)
azure condor
'Susceptible to lava'
sleek wadi
Hey man, cube actually does have a function. It can straight up kill you
That's right, you can pay 5 platinum for a chance to randomly bite it if you happen to have less than 5 health in a dark area
azure condor
👍
sleek wadi
Now I'm imaging CrabBar losing a 1 HP Hardcore run to Companion Cube because he forgot the mechanic existed.
alpine copper
Best deal ever made
azure condor
Lol
tired haven
Imagine thinking I'd be able to accumulate 5 plat with 1hp hc
round falcon
if anyone can do it you can
languid ermine
now I magine playing with your friend whos good and you're sitting at the death screen for 5 min while battles the boss alone
void kelp
when you’re bad at the game but your friend isn’t
ngl that’s my multiplayer experience since lag is hard to work w
gusty geode
If it does get added can they make it so you become a ghost like if you had died on hardcore until you respawn
It'd be like a sort of spectator mode so you can more easily watch the fight as it continues without you
flint chasm
placid girder
I'm p sure you can just farm the stuff in a corrupt or hallowed desert
void kelp
yep the great sand shark can’t spawn via killing the sand sharks from there
oblique haven
I think its just the downside of zerging, it much like saying i want the celestial pillars to be spawn only because i want to farm the cultist
elder sparrow
-i agree
there is no point in having trump card rounds stack to such small numbers
-why should great sand shark have a summon item
like earth elemental and giant clam it's a miniboss
all minibosses are separate from actual bosses in that they can be summoned by an item, while minibosses do not have that
it would feel out of place to have that.
- a one death mechanic would be interesting
- no comment on moonlight pendant because it's pretty cool, i dont think a disclaimer has to be made regarding balance
ornate pecan
Still working on concepts but they're coming along nicely
elder sparrow
-also good that we're fulfilling some areas in which rogue feels off
such as nights edge tier or fishron tier
livid coral
Canwe have a Nights Edge throwing item
sinful steeple
Coughs in sandstorm's core
It would be cool but we'd need biome rogue weapons... I think
The current ones wouldn't work too well except maybe seafoam bomb
livid coral
How about a uhhhh fishing specific rogue item
sinful steeple
And they aren't that rare
Depth meters and tally counters are the real difficult items to obtain
fresh harbor
Tally is pretty alright if you go to the dungeon and zerg pre-plantera
After plant, it's just pain though
The ones I find bothersome are the travelling merchant ones
sinful steeple
I always try to get it before hardmode so it's pain
void kelp
what about for a rogue weapon that’s from fishing, maybe “sea stars”
literally throwing starfish
although there’s already the urchin stingers so it might be redundant, the concept of a pre-HM rogue throwing starfish (pun intended) seems fun
although you could argue the throwing counterpart already exists in the form of frost daggerfish
tribal iron
I guess
placid girder
It sounds good for dps testing against something like levi
tribal iron
Yeah, and it means you don't have to go through and shoot like 20 super dummies with your marked magnum
soft grail
wheres the draconis weapons suggestion post
hollow shell
Long time ago
ashen warren
Like 8 years ago now.
hollow shell
just search Lord Æther's messages in #suggestions-voting to find it
ashen warren
Use in:suggestions draconis
hollow shell
(February)
fervent sky
@tribal iron could the tooltip for the Giant Super Dummy just be "Dummy Thicc"
warm grove
@fervent sky grow up
fervent sky
ashen warren
Uh, why.
Why would the corrupt/crimtane enemies need to be deleted by the clemontator?
green ruin
Not deleted
Just do some damage
The Clentaminator would do no damage to non-corrupt/crimson enemies
ashen warren
but why though?
green ruin
Because, the solution washes away the crimson/corruption, so why shouldn't it do the same to the enemies?
Not washing away their corruptness, just washing away a good chunk of damage
green ruin
Well if it does a good hunk o' damage to corrupt/crimson enemies then yes
ashen warren
"When would"
green ruin
You would use it when you see a corrupt/crimson enemy
ashen warren
To that I say, what about your normal weapons that don't fuck with biomes?
And would have higher dps?
green ruin
I'm saying it does tons and tons of damage to corrupt/crimson enemies
Like 2-shot them
Meaning it gets outclassed around the Celestial Events
ashen warren
"Keep it reasonable, of course."
lole
green ruin
Yeah
I don't want the Clentaminator to be like devweapon-DPS
Just like, Lunar Fragment weapons DPS
And you can get it as soon as the Steampunker spawns
It would make early hardmode a bit easier
Especially for the nightmares you find underground
radiant meadow
early hardmode weapon has same dps as late hardmode weapon?
I don't think you understand how tiering works
royal juniper
it could maybe do a small bit of damage, as flavor, but i dont think it should be good
quiet abyss
Here's a document containing list of things that you shouldn't/can't suggest. Either because they're not going to be accepted, or because similar suggestions have been suggested so many times in the past already.
Please read this document before you start thinking of any ideas for a suggestion
Note: If you have any ideas for things that should be within this document as well, notify me or Rover and we'll put them in.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1OA3GxJ4w4QA4pCkngwt8kqW8Qq18U5KOCUJEucUS8ck/edit?usp=sharing
hollow shell
hollow shell
Yeah sure
But re-pin the Rules pin after you do it
quiet abyss
Aight
ashen warren
Rip perma benis pin.
radiant meadow
no need to suggest pierce resist on desert scourge?
time to suggest pierce resist on aquatic scourge 
hollow shell
Yeah that's fair game :)
radiant meadow
actually no though because I like bullying scourge
hollow shell
o
arctic wren
ashen warren
no buli
dusty stirrup
tbf it's always a chore to cleanse the world
sinful steeple
I need a clentaminator like that
My crimson spawned next to my ocean and despite me making walls the crimson traveled up a vine and now I can't decrimson the part that's out of the map for the life of me
ashen warren
I need a delete-evil thingy for my world, just annihilates all evil blocks
Not changing, removing entirely
earnest raptor
Pillars Rogue enemies
Since a entire Rogue pillar didn't happen in next 120 years, and dropping Meld Blobs from Nebula enemies seems too dumb, I will suggest a Rogue-themed enemies for Lunar Pillars event.
All enemies spawns uncommonly nearby any Lunar Pillars and counts as 2 enemies for shield.
Meld Creeper: a humanoid in light armor, colored with Xeroc-pallete. Initially invisible and invulnerable, but transparency lowers with lowering distance to players. If distance are below 5 blocks, enemy become damageable and will try to swung a purple slash, that can oneshot most players. If player didn't killed, Creeper after 9 seconds will turn invisible and invulnerable back. Drops 1-4 Meld Blobs.
Galactus Shooter: a Corruptor-like enemy, shoots barrages of Xeroc Pitchforks. Initially invisible and have a 500 defense, but can be revealed by small bursts of Xeroc particles. On getting hit become enraged: lose all defense, but increase speed of pitchforks's shooting. Drops 1-4 Meld Blobs.
Insanity Bomber: burrowing enemy, when see a players, shoots to them a explosive, that slightly damages terrain and have a huge damage. Bombs before landing on surface are transparent. Drops 2-3 Meld Blobs.
Good?
ashen warren
Where would they spawn tho
old warren
Spawn
hot zephyr
is the clentaminator affected by chance to not consume ammo
earnest raptor
@ashen warren added.
ashen warren
I like the idea, but xeroc hasn't transitioned from all-class to rogue properly yet. Post it, if you wanna tho
hollow shell
@proven tide Best to say that here instead of there
proven tide
lowkey wanted to flex the amount of stars Yeah fair
Add a Rogue Pillar to the Over-Suggested Suggestions List in the document.
tadah
hollow shell
Sure
Actually
nah
Looking through the delivered suggestions, not a single Rogue Pillar suggestion has been sent
worthy fiber
Because no one wants another one
formal prism
doesn't the concept of a giant, stationary, glowing celestial pillar contradict the whole "rogue is quiet stealthy ninja" theme?
hollow shell
Eh
not a very strong argument
formal prism
fair enough.
proven tide
rogue is a lifestyle
earnest raptor
@formal prism
glowing
giant
rogue
sinful steeple
It'd be cool if it was like slowly floating around
Although it could spawn in the centre of the map
sinful steeple
I know that's why I thought of the floating around thing
Although remember that spawns are disabled near NPCs meaning it would have no effect on your base unless you disabled that
And enemies would still spawn around your base
earnest raptor
The best possible Rogue pillar - invisible pillar
sinful steeple
But seriously a centred rogue pillar would work
oblique haven
Why not just have it be from combined fragments as opposed to meld?
sinful steeple
Is it technically a boss so it's not allowed to suggest it or something?
No
Galactica singularities
earnest raptor
@oblique haven too frequent idea
In every 4th content mod I see a material from 4 Celestial Fragments.
sinful steeple
Also galactica singularities exist
Which are already made from all 4 and they're elemental not Xeroc
tired haven
Center pillar doesn't work well
Try Tremor's alchemist pillar
tired haven
You get owned 100 times in a row because 95% of players build base on spawn
ashen warren
It spawns in ya base.
sinful steeple
I know that but Calamity disables spawns near NPCs
real parrot
tremor having a bad game element? not surprising
sinful steeple
Unless you set the config to false
ashen warren
Calamity isn't the source of that iirc.
tired haven
Then how you do the actual pillar?
sinful steeple
And the radius would extend further than your base
Unless you have a 300 block wide base you can easily kill 100 enemies
real parrot
@ashen warren calamity has a config to completely disable spawns if at least 3 NPCs are nearby
sinful steeple
And I doubt that anyone wants to have a 300 block wide base
ashen warren
Isn't that how that works in vanilla pretty much?
tired haven
My pretty humble base has about 150 blocks + account for fact that npc grace area is bigger than that
real parrot
vanilla reduces spawns, but not outright disables them
tired haven
Yeah
earnest raptor
Alchemist pillar seems to spawnable in any place on surface.
And very commonly overrides a existing pillar.
sinful steeple
Okay so it extends 500 tiles out on each side
I doubt that your base is 1000 tiles wide
Nobody's base is 33% as long as a hellbridge
That's just a fact
real parrot
tired haven
It can't extend 500 to each side
That would mean permanently being at one of pillars' zones in small worlds (~4000 tiles)
Not sure where you got this info
Probably wiki but wiki is known for quite obscure false info
sinful steeple
The Terraria wiki says about 500 on each side
earnest raptor
1000 tiles wide base
You're not a FuryForged?
sinful steeple
And still, your base regardless will never be as wide as the radius of a pillar
tired haven
That doesn't change a fact having such a hostile source literally above your head is not fine, even if it is contained by a config that may as well be disabled
sinful steeple
Neither will the grace zone, right next to my base is a cess pool of enemies
Most people won't disable the config
tired haven
Most people won't dupe items.
Not an argument
(i refer to limited ammo guns change)
The changes should be fine for all people if possible
sinful steeple
Well it's not really possible without making the rogue pillar nothing like the others, and if you're like me building multiple small bases pillars get up in your grill all the time
near crown
(to be fair defiled rune is a thing)
this was inspired by mobages
those p2w games that make you eat dupes to raise lvl cap
tired haven
Well, that's pretty interesting, though I doubt the reforge should be stronger than default best (besides, adding custom reforges is quite unstable)
High chance for best modifier would be nice either way
near crown
fair enough, was thinking that the extra strong reforge was a good bonus but what would probably happen is people feel forced to do it shudders in exoblade
tired haven
sinful steeple
Maybe it could be an expensive crafting station sold by the Goblin Tinkerer that gives guaranteed positive reforges with high max reforge chane
elder kestrel
@earnest raptor thing is, a galactica singularity is made to look like a galaxy
It's made of all the 4 elements and it's meant to look like a galaxy afaik
Just because it's used in elemental items doesn't mean it should be recoloured to use their palette
Also, about the prior suggestion, a bomb which damages terrain is an awful idea
And it being invisible is really cheap, how is the player supposed to dodge it?
And why should the meld creeper (which is hard to see) one shot the player?
That's just going to be a nuisance and piss people off
Also what the fuck why does the galactic shooter have 500 defense
That's waaaaay too high
frail mantle
I think it’s meant to be sorta like the devil fish or whatever it’s called, as in an enemy that starts with a ridiculous amount of defense but loses the defense and becomes aggressive upon taking damage
elder kestrel
Huh
earnest raptor
And why should the meld creeper (which is hard to see) one shot the player?
One of possible traits of rogue: very heavy damage from shadows.
And you have a few seconds to knock back a Meld Creeper.
elder kestrel
It being a trait certainly doesn't make it any less annoying
frail mantle
Still, instagibbing is annoying unless it’s meant to warn the player to not do something
like the DG or Adult Wyrm
elder kestrel
You can't design an enemy poorly and claim that it's "a trait" of the enemy
And again, why does the insanity bomber's bombs damage the terrain
Enemies who can damage the terrain are frustrating as all hell
ashen warren
ashen warren
So, 10 in expert?
ashen warren
the insane part was the 5 minutes thing lole
earnest raptor
🤔
sinful steeple
YESS
ashen warren
Uh, shadowspec not allowed.
Scaling bad.
Lorde bad.
bitter topaz
if you post that in suggestions all that is is a free warn.
faint rivet
lost agate
...
faint rivet
It's literally called suggeston don'ts
bitter topaz
you're not even funny.
you're obviously fully aware that the document was a guideline on what NOT to do, given that last little statement.
fair python
Yeah, alright. Fair enough.
radiant meadow
is it really exo tier if it's post scal? 
spiral olive
ashen warren
Wait, brimstone monster sized flail?
ornate pecan
Nyess
ashen warren
lofty blade
I feel like the third one will be a frame killer
I feel the suggestion would be better if the crafting recipes were more defined than just a main crafting component and stuff at that point in the game.
Like the red planet, seeing as how it's a late phm/early hm weapon, part of the recipe could include hellstone bars as well as the meteorite that you already mentioned.
And the the jovian chain could use chaos bars made from the chaotic ore which is post golem as well as maybe using a lihzhard power cell, seeing as how solar tablet fragments are used, maybe it should use temple materials, and lihzhard bricks can easily be used in it as well.
and the betelgeuse one could easily have cinderplate and some sentinel/polter drops incorporated into the drop like twisting nether specifically, as well as uelibloom bars.
This would help make the crafting recipes more defined and less like a "pick what you want for the recipe" kind of thing.
alpine copper
Dont just say no
lofty blade
You can see your levels without equipping it, and if you want to equip it to increase proficiency gaining rate, then yes it's worth a slot
alpine copper
Say why too
sinful steeple
It's pointless
alpine copper
It just raises it from 1 point to 2
lofty blade
meaning you raise the levels twice as fast
proficiency is supposed to be a playthrough long thing to raise, so that 1 point to 2 can make a huge difference over a long time
tired haven
Now, remember that info items like gold watch can be equipped
which gives no advantage (apart from saved regular slot)
Meters should stay as is
marsh gust
@proper sail why
ashen warren
That's 100% a meme.
marsh gust
sure, @proper sail have a warn
alpine copper
I suppose we dont do memes here anymore
eager palm
No meme suggestions, read the rules next time pangea
ashen warren
anymore
We never had meme suggestions.
lost agate
?
You know meme suggestions always got punished right?
I mean, werent you warned once because of it?
limber oxide
hmm i do see afzofa's point ill prob just toss that info into my suggestion now
added some more definition to crafting recipes now thanks for the tip @lofty blade
lofty blade
You're welcome
gusty geode
Not always
So I hear if it was a really high-quality meme suggestion it would just be ignored and no punishment would be given out
dusty stirrup
Jesus fuckin christ those are some big projectiles
distant gyro
lorde, dot, astrageldon, throwing, etc appear way too often sometimes
lost agate
And all of them are in the donts doc
distant gyro
yet people still do it idek why
lost agate
They havent learned the mystic art of research and reading
distant gyro
"the mystic art" yes
ashen warren
Or they wanna meme hard
agile cloud
I feel like removing astrageldon was one of the best, and worst things thats happened
ashen warren
astralgeldon lorde flashbacks
agile cloud
Now ppl are crying: "BrIng asTraGeLdON bAKK"
distant gyro
Thanos Marshmallow
lost agate
Astrageldon didnt quite materialize that time he tried to teleport and had to be replaced iirc
ashen warren
Astrageldon's head appeared where their legs should be...
gusty geode
All I ask for is a painting featuring both removed bosses, and if need be I could even sprite it myself once I learn how, anyway
Whether you like it or hate it, it's good to know the mod's history
ashen warren
Lorde was Omega meme.
Astrageldon maybe.
dusty stirrup
No thanks
frail mantle
the DB being toggleable has been suggested before
and it was sent in to the dev server
autumn kiln
you could just hack in 1hp to your character
last star
but u can get hit multiple times with db active
its like a harder and easier verision of armageddon
dp is everything while armageddon is only during bosses
autumn kiln
harder and easier
make up your mind
dude DB will immediately kill you pretty much because you have no immunity frames lmao
last star
well u can get hit once from a slime with db
and again armageddon is only active during bosses
ashen warren
A slime.
autumn kiln
do you not understand what the removal of immunity frames means
with DB the slime will be able to hit you on EVERY SINGLE FRAME.
last star
and its always active while armageddon is boss only
ashen warren
Solution, use potato computer for the low fr
last star
also u wont get hit by a slime every frame due to knock back unless u have knock back immunity but i get ur point somewhat
autumn kiln
I still see no point.
If you wanna make it that much harder on yourself with death defiled just hack in 1hp.
no need to suggest something redundant.
last star
mainly since i dont see much of a point in it being an accessory over an toggle, and also it would be more user friendly than having to hack in 1hp for those who doesnt know how but sure call it redundant if u wish
autumn kiln
cheat sheet, extra accessory slot
that difficulty sounds straight up unplayable.
I'd rather have my gameplay not be dictated entired by RNG, thank you very much.
hollow shell
@gusty geode Which suggestions of yours were not memes but seen as memes?
ashen warren
I enjoy Revengence mode. Even Death Mode. But RNGsus's rage doesnt even sound fun. I dont want to have to worry about my character being sent to space every five seconds. At least in Death Mode I can have a heart attack when fighting a Slime. I don't want to have to start running from it and get hit with a Confused debuf and run right into it. no thanks.
dusty stirrup
Would anyone actually enjoy that mode
alpine copper
Im still wondering how does a cyborg infected with astral bacteria makes more sense than a slime infected with astral bacteria
last star
because bacon
hollow shell
There are Astral Slimes
last star
i like my explanation more
hollow shell
Because a slime is significantly lamer than a big robot
Also did you read the lore?
last star
i just realized something
alpine copper
Im afraid i havent read astrum aureus lore
last star
calamity doesnt have a single angel themed creature other than the bear angel cat pet
ashen warren
you should read up on your lore, buster before you make assumptions
hollow shell
Then dont ask questions about its origin 
autumn kiln
astrum aureus lore is basically
Yharim took interest in the astral infection
Draedon built a machine to examine it
the machine got infected
ashen warren
^^
hollow shell
cool
alpine copper
Also what would be the use of clonelamitas spawning naturally?
frail mantle
she already does in DM tho
ashen warren
same as the EoC and the Mechanical Trio. Help the player progress faster.
dusty stirrup
It's not like her summon item is expensive anyway
ashen warren
and as the lore states, she does aimlessly roam the night. Only knowing to act and fight.
ashen warren
I just thought it would help with game progression. similar to previous bosses
alpine copper
Someone oughta do a webcomic based on the mod's lore
dusty stirrup
I just don't see the use of it aside from "it's cool", ig
hollow shell
smh where you been
neon panther
not here :3
it started at what
35 or something
hollow shell
Indeed
radiant meadow
@fervent grove clockwork and terra arrows is really strong though against prov from what I've heard and onyx chain blaster is still a solid pick
idk much about planetary annhilation
fervent grove
no no, those are the meta weapons
I would like to see underused weapons get to that power
radiant meadow
oh
fervent grove
sorry it wasn't so clear
radiant meadow
so starfleet, disseminator, shredder, planetary annhilation, and golden eagle?
(and sdmg and celebration I guess)
ashen warren
golden eagle definitely isn't underused/in need of a buff 
radiant meadow
figured lol but it wasn't listed
fervent grove
never used golden eagle
radiant meadow
planetary annhilation is good for bumblebirb though
fervent grove
I actually just did mage/summoner/rogue/melee playthroughs, and last time I did ranger was some time ago
yeah, but that's really niche
radiant meadow
at least way better than clockwork and astreal defeat
fervent grove
you could use anything on bumblebirb
last playthrough I used entropy's vigil on bumblebirb
and yeah, you are right
but... I'm just thinking about things like, if you only use plannetary annihilation for bumblebirb
that's not a lot of using that weapon
of course, this isn't a big issue at all
honestly the calamity mod is great and really, really, impessive as it exists
hollow shell
@vestal comet Can you still activate Adrenaline if a boss is alive for long enough?
vestal comet
I died preboss, so it didnt do anything
It should go away like everything else such as hearts and inventory
hollow shell
Alright
I was wondering if they were still functional because if so that'd be funny
but, yeah, good catch
Surprised it wasn't caught before, considering Iron Heart
royal juniper
Its been likely noticed and just not brought up
hollow shell
Perhaps
ashen warren
add some variant of an angel themed creature
so we can kill it
So, guess calamity lore is true eh?
The PC is just a bloodthirsty asshole.
hollow shell
@foggy shard Prism-Backs and Blinded Anglers already drop Prism Shards
foggy shard
ok
teal ibex
yo sors what's the most stars a suggestion has received 
golden sonnet
facts: sors isn't pain enough
hollow shell
Good question actually
Ech, I wouldn't be able to find out easily
Best I can tell is BlackHand's (original) Profaned Guardians weapons with 206
Well, it was 206 at the time of delivery
Now it's 210
teal ibex
i see, kinda surprising tbh, i figure there might've been some huge break out suggestion of like 300+ LOL
initially i was curious to see what the most popular idea was but now i'm finding out that the yharon-nado suggestion is apparently in the upper percentile, probably because of the name recognition 
hearty yew
@Shuangzai#0239 If you check the wiki you'll see we already did a huge amount of work buffing useless vanilla items to be viable, even if they aren't meta.
I'm glad you recognize that meta items don't need to be nerfed and that even in one class there are plenty of weaker options. However we focused our efforts on blatantly underpowered vanilla items rather than slightly underpowered calamity items.
...did he leave?
quick dove
poor ozza
radiant meadow
oh, they edited it
and they said spyker and photo aren't good
they trying to use spyker on doggo or something?
dusty stirrup
The guy is a bit of a memer it seems
hollow shell
... I see.
Took me a second to realize.
livid coral
If people are gonna join, suggest and leave we should make a rule on that. That could warrant a warning or if they join again, instawarning.
radiant meadow
they did talk about it a little
livid coral
Eeeeehhhh. I'll let it slide this time.
radiant meadow
and this wasn't their first message in the server or anything 
hollow shell
They've been here a lil while apparently so I think it was just coincidence
livid coral
Oh rip I thought they'd left too never mind
hollow shell
(well they did)
radiant meadow
they left, but it wasn't like just post one suggestion and then skedaddle
hollow shell
yeah
livid coral
Got it
jolly kettle
I mean like do people really use like the perennial, chaotic weapons
sinful steeple
Apart from helstorm no
frail mantle
flame scythe is p good
hearty yew
@jolly kettle i like chaotrix for actually doing damage
jolly kettle
Ah
fresh harbor
I use perennial weps :/
spare nimbus
xeroc bossfight gonna be a dude throwing supreme boulders at the player
cunning comet
Vanities does that already yes. Pets galore.
ornate pecan
My concepts will be ready by the end of the day or sooner
void kelp
niceee
ornate pecan
They will be posted in art server, so be on the lookout for that
ashen warren
Can't possibly happen cause npc limit.
frail mantle
^
frail mantle
also you haven't provided any reason why you think it should be added
floral linden
Wait... Do I smell a joke suggestion?
lost agate
memes?
floral linden
ruby cobalt
worm hell
tired haven
This sounds like a meme simply because half of worms won't be able to spawn, due to npc cap
lost agate
Spawn all worm bosses?
More like half of them but all of them at the same time
floral linden
And even if it was possible, it would be absolute anarchy.
ashen plume
Or rather make it the Worm Trials
tired haven
Literally 2 worms and 16 heads
ashen plume
Each Worm Boss will spawn subsequently
ashen warren
@jolly dust Discuss suggestions here, not in there.
lost agate
@jolly dust bud, suggestion discussion is here
ashen warren
Damn, people need to 
more.
lost agate
hes still writting oh god oh fuck
bitter topaz
oh no 
ashen warren
Isn't the Astreum Deus missing in your collection @ashen plume 