#suggestions-discussion

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errant spear
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It lowers all calamity weapon damage by 20%

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That's it

stoic escarp
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hm

errant spear
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I'm pretty sure

formal prism
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calamity itself does a lot of background tweaking, although half of it is to cap vanlilla mechanics so the player doesn't become an unkillable god before they fight Doggo.

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some vanlilla "strategies" involve getting your life regen and defense so high that you can just... tank. everything. Calamity ensures you can't do that against the current hardest boss.

stoic escarp
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okok

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thnx

hollow shell
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That was already delivered, @west prairie

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Reposting doesn't really
do anything

lost agate
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Yeah thats what i told him

hollow shell
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The "Highly Suggested" thing only applies when somebody else posts a similar/identical idea

But it doesn't apply to weapons/equippables (usually) because peoples' choices of function, stats, naming, obtaining, etc can vary greatly

lost agate
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^

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He said he didnt understand why his suggestion didnt get in before so thats the reason i would think

hollow shell
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oof

lost agate
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Oofers

west prairie
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that wasn't why i reposted it, i wasn't actually like

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confused or angry why it didnt get in

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i simply misinterpreted what was required for the marking of "highly suggested"

hollow shell
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I see.

west prairie
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additionally it served to see whether the community actually still wanted that

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seeing the number of stars it gets now vs back then is useful apart from any dev action on the suggestion

runic pewter
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still not been noticed

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i'm on 76

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76

west prairie
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the fallout number

runic pewter
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and it was before the new one

hollow shell
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It's quite a sizable suggestion, especially with the image
If I'm honest, I'd appreciate if you removed it. I don't wanna bury other suggestions

If you're wondering if people are still interested, of course the answer is yes.

runic pewter
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it hasnt got a tick yet

hollow shell
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I will deliver later today and it'll get ticked, don't worry

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@old epoch Do you think you could rephrase that? I'm finding it hard to follow

old epoch
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basically like a mini dungeon that randomly spawns, and has a chance of awarding a rare item at the end akin to the random chance of an enchanted sword from a sword shrine

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but still having some items you can get so it wasn’t totally worthless

west prairie
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i would personally rework that as a way to make shrines more interesting, as they currently contain powerful items for free, with the only challenge being finding them

runic pewter
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ok ty

west prairie
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the addition of challenging elements to shrines would be pretty cool

old epoch
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it isn’t really that hard to find a sword shrine imo

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its hard getting a drop from them

hallow kraken
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By looking on the wiki I realize that just Valhalla Knight armor doesn’t benefit the melee class in any way, so squire+Valhalla knight should be changed

cyan lagoon
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it isn't the melee set though

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this is

radiant meadow
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valhalla and squire fill more of a tank role

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rather than offensive melee

errant spear
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Wulfrum yoyo isnt really nessicary because most people just go from wooden straight to the amazon yoyo

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Amazon is pretty easy to craft

cold terrace
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^

vestal elbow
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y e s

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would make no-alchnpc runs tolerable

spiral olive
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very much yes please

tepid wadi
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As of late I have refrained from using it, but I did notice I am locked out from certain fish. And spending a crazy amount of bloodorbs is not really my cup oftea

spiral olive
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also he could sell different fish depending on what biome he's in instead of time of day

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so you have a bit more control

tepid wadi
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Yes but then you have the case of building houses everywhere

spiral olive
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you could also use king statues to teleport him

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but either way, more ways to get fish is very good and i would enjoy

tepid wadi
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And everyone else 😛

sinful steeple
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I don't get the point of AlchemistNPC

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It feels too cheesy

fossil torrent
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this is a really good idea

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very good way to execute it, with the moon phases being what determines which fish you get so you can’t just go ”hurdur buy all the potions i need durhur”

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but can’t you like, use a cosmilight to just change the moon phases? pretty unavoidable but still mentionable

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And amidias totally needs more stuff in his shop too yeah, he becomes totally irrelevant almost immediately

livid coral
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tbh I'd like Permafrost and Amidias' stuff to scale or have some event exclusive items

tepid wadi
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@livid coral Not saying it should claim every inventory spot though.

livid coral
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Oh yeah ofc

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Who are they, the painter? 😂

tepid wadi
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He has still 32 free slots left

late shale
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@radiant meadow what about an abyss loot crate?

radiant meadow
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you can't fish in the abyss

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or at least, you'll be dead before you can catch anything

late shale
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i know, but from the sulphuric sea

radiant meadow
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ye but like biome crates are rare and annoying daryl

late shale
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true lol

ashen warren
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I've gotten 1 biome crate compared to my 100+ golden over many playthroughs.
I'd rather a crafting tree that needed skeletron primes cart piece then that.

ashen warren
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There's already a crafting recipe, we don't want the starter bag to just delete all earlygame.

stoic escarp
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oh ok

gusty geode
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It'd be pretty easy I imagine to turn up the catch rates of biome crates
People sometimes forget that the devs have the power to change almost anything they want about the vanilla game

ashen warren
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That waters down the fishing pool for stuff like potion fish though.

gusty geode
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Not like it matters too much considering blood orbs exist which isn't a good thing imo but still

ashen warren
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Farming blood orbs is fucking aids though.

gusty geode
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Idk, maybe if it can't work for all the other biome crates, it would work for the abyss specifically
All the weapons you find in chests can be fished up already, so compacting them into a single entry on the list with a crate would actually increase the chances of getting something else of use

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I think

ashen warren
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You can't fish abyss weapons.

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That's why the suggestion.

gusty geode
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You could last I checked
You needed a fair amount of fishing power to do it but supposedly you could get a random abyss chest weapon while fishing in the sulphur sea

boreal matrix
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Isn't it kind of unfortunate that the Daedalus armor set gives control over gravity when the mechanical bosses are enraged when you switch gravity?

gusty geode
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That's kinda funny, actually LUL

boreal matrix
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And you get the set around the time you're supposed to be fighting the mechs

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I'm going to put that in the suggestions channel

hollow shell
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Understandable, yes

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But why are you pressing up?

livid coral
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fatfinger, or be me and just panic and press all the keys

ashen warren
livid coral
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I'm the panicky rogue/ranger who can't aim let's be honest here

devout seal
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Wait, do the mechs actually enrage if gravity's flipped

sinful steeple
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Yes

livid coral
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Yes, Ion. They do. It's been the talk for the past update.

sinful steeple
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And for what reason would you ever press up when fighting the mechs

livid coral
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You be me.

quick dove
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accidental mistake that can lead to an unfair death i guess

radiant meadow
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only in rev+

ashen warren
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If a mistake leads to a death that's just you sucking.

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Since that's how you normally die.

tired haven
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Kaizo levels you also mistake in but that's not considered fair death due to lack of knowledge towards death or any hint really

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On the other hand, it's more of one-time rule reading. "So ok, I get rolled for gravity pot, I just limit its' use"

untold gulch
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Adding to Saburouta's suggestion, the wulfrum yoyo will fire a wulfrum shard that deals a third of the yoyo's damage every three consecutive hits.
thoughts?

ashen warren
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@radiant pivot if they went through with that suggestion they'd have to brick core terraria

radiant pivot
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I didn't think there would be an easy way

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That's definitely not possible then?

ashen warren
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Most def

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Sowwy

radiant pivot
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It's all good lol

teal ibex
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i mean, im sure its doable, but just awkward

radiant pivot
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I was thinking maybe there would be a way to trap the player once they respawn, but that would probably mess with other things

teal ibex
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probably could just instagib players that spawn when the boss is alive

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that being said, itd be an annoying way of handling it for sure

radiant pivot
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Yeah

runic pewter
ashen warren
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Star limit raised.

runic pewter
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it was before

untold gulch
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it is now 90

runic pewter
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it was before the 90 raise

ashen warren
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Sors lazy then smugyon

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Just wait.

ashen warren
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adding a boss is ignored

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miniboss , idk

faint rivet
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Minibosses are fine

ashen warren
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giant clam exists as a miniboss

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so it fine

final fern
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how do you think if 50% chance, the astral infection will spawn dark and gloomy like now, or the astral infection will function the same but with the old colors (the purple and gold themed)

ashen warren
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nah

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dont need it

final fern
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same xD

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would be cool if they add another biome that posesses really bright and happy(?)/pastel colors like the hallow

old warren
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?? I mean the hallow already exists for that, maybe something with a more 'holy' theme but that might be pushing it

final fern
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yeaah

silent berry
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does a slime rain version of the torrential tear seem like a good idea/suggestion

worthy fiber
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Slime rain's kinda useless

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@ashen warren Already being implemented

silent berry
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any changes to slime rain

worthy fiber
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Calamity doesn't change anything in the event afaik

silent berry
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hmmm calamity does have new slimes right

worthy fiber
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Ore slimes, yeah

faint rivet
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Quite a few

void kelp
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not surface ones aside from wulfrum afaik

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not counting astral slimes tho

silent berry
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so what if ore slimes spawned during slime rain after certain bosses were defeated

faint rivet
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Irradiated slimes spawn on the surface

worthy fiber
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Sulphurous sea only though

ashen warren
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@worthy fiber it was a joke

worthy fiber
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Suggestion jokes are a no-no bro daryl

bitter topaz
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did i just miss a meme suggestion?
asquint

worthy fiber
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Nothing exciting just "Plaguenades"

placid moth
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What happened

quick dove
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nice

ashen warren
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aren't plaguenades gonna be a thing anyways thanks to someone's patron item

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Ye

lost agate
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Gee i wonder who CompleteFailure

silent berry
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a better idea for gadens suggestion is to make arena bigger block wise? or disable rod of discord

silent berry
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because who wants to sit there dead for a while

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hmmmmm slime rain slime god 🤔 slime king spawns when enough slimes kiled in slime rain but what if

bitter topaz
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slime god used to spawn after slime rain at one point iirc
it was removed since it was even more annoying than KS spawning

fervent zealot
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his dm natural spawn requires slime rain

earnest raptor
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Tomahawk
Early game rogue weapon
Throws a pale golden throwing axe with average range, that inflict a unique debuff: "Hurted" (increasing with duration DoT - 1 dps in 1 second and 20 dps in 30 seconds). Projectile increase their damage and duration of Hurted with time in fly: if you just throw weapon to dummy, they recieve 100% damage and one second of debuff, if you aim from roof of high castle your awesome axe to zombie on ground, they accept a 190% damage and 10 seconds of debuff.
🛠 : Gold/Platinum Axe + 5 Iron Bars @ Anvil or Gold/Platinum Axe @ Sharpening Station.
Why:

  1. Other non-consumable weapon for rogue in first half of Pre-hm.
  2. Tomahawk encourages a perfect aiming, that a already good skill.
    Note: this weapon is kinda reference to Pixel Dungeon.
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Decent?

distant gyro
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'hurted'

agile cloud
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I'd increase the recipe to axe + 10 iron bars, and add maybe demonite/crimtane

distant gyro
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ye, maybe make it 1 tier up from crystalline

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and seafoam

languid ermine
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aerialite in a crate deepthonk

agile cloud
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Auric ore in a crate

earnest raptor
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Hmmmm

bitter topaz
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@last star would you mind formatting that better? it's kind of hard to read properly and seems to switch from a bug report to a suggestion and then back to a bug report etc.

Although i get the gist of it, others might not.

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seperating it into paragraphs would be the easiest and most effective way

solid nimbus
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Something just feels right about fighting both of these at once. LOL

faint rivet
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Why is this in this channel

solid nimbus
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As if Ocram is some sort of Alternate Universe Calamitas and vice versa.

faint rivet
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Why is this in this channel

hollow shell
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Wrong channel

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yeah

solid nimbus
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Whoops, soz

faint rivet
hollow shell
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Yeah, cuz something else is adding Ocram

solid nimbus
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gotcha

bitter kiln
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i was thinking why can't you combine the Nebulous Core with the Spore Sack from Planterror? (they both summon something to protect you) so you can have both nebular stars & spores to protect you

hollow shell
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Probably because Nebulous Core is like
a spiritual successor to Spore Sac, a faux-upgrade

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You could suggest something to combine em tho

bitter kiln
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🤔 i thought that was what i was doing by point it out like that... my bad xD my suggestion is kinda what you said to combine them both to have both effects happen at the same time

hollow shell
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Well considering the nebula stars are just
the same as the spores except they look different and deal more damage
You might wanna have some other effect to make it more distinct

bitter kiln
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maybe the spores poison/venom enemies while the stars confuse enemies and of course deal more dmg then the previous verions?

hollow shell
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Poison/Venom wouldn't deal enough damage Post-DoG for that to be worth it

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Hm..

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Maybe the spores could burst into clouds (like Blossom Flux's right click) or into thorns which go in random directions?

mossy shale
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Which suggestion bot does this discord use, if it's a public one?

hollow shell
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Custom-made

mossy shale
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Man

bitter kiln
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since it also has the 12% (maybe upgrade it to 15%) dmg from nebulas star with the 10% chance to ignore death it'd be decent if you want to pick up just an extra chance to survive a fatal attack

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the idea of it is the following so far

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accecssory ??? name cause i don't have a good naming sense ( boosts dmg by 15% has a 10% chance to survive an attack that would have otherwise killed you and summons spores & nebular stars to protect you and give a random debuff to enemies examples (poison/confusion/ichor/cursed flames/broken armor/ect any debuff before DOG)

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requires spore sack (planterror) & nebulos core (DOG) + ?? endothermic energy + ?? nightmare fuel + ??? phantoplasm

hollow shell
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Not sure if it should be available right after DoG
Items that are immediately upgradable after obtaining them are strange

Maybe make it use Darksun Fragments or, if you want, Yharon Soul Fragments

bitter kiln
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true

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could add dark sun & auric ore and maybe have the addition of the buff that the spores/stars have a chance to instantly kill normal enemies so they are fairly decent and helpful or maybe could make the spores/stars into something like a spore star?

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i don't know if that'd be too strong though since it is close range and the spore/stars do move slowly but they generate alot of them meh~ the idea is there so weather or not it gets added or not is up to them

pale bluff
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Phantom's Requiem's name was originally for a Sword suggestion, but it's best suited as a Post-Polterghast Seafoam Bomb weapon tbh

ashen warren
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I don't think there'll be any dm exclusive items

hollow shell
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Yeah @bitter kiln Death Mode exclusive item suggestions aren't allowed
See the rules pin in #suggestions-voting

bitter kiln
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did not know that. thanks for the heads up

fervent sky
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So, thoughts on my suggestion?

hollow shell
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Seems cool

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It'd be especially fitting if the PBG (and/or some Plague Seeker) resprites got in

fervent sky
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Ye

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I based it on that

radiant meadow
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wing nerfs have been weird to play with

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curious how this would fit in

fervent sky
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Oh I forgot about those

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Hmm

spiral olive
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that'd be pretty neat

hollow shell
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@autumn lion They are already unable to hurt you for a few seconds after spawning

autumn lion
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they did 1 shot me 1 sec after they spawned

hollow shell
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I can assure you it was not 1 sec
Because the no-hurt timer is 3 seconds long

autumn lion
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i promise they did it

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it was a second right after they spawned

summer egret
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I promise you that you're making yourself look like a fool

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Because this man has probably played terraria longer than youve known what bread is, strawberry

quick dove
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it could have been a bug radio

radiant meadow
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tbf, I've been caught off guard by them when they spawn a bit farther away and are vulnerable or nearly vulnerable by the time they reach me

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but then again, my suggestion to do that exact same thing was already sent HDfailure

hollow shell
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Heh, my assurance doesn't come out of experience, Radio
I have the source code

summer egret
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Ah

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See, you look like even more of a fool, noe

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Its in the code

radiant meadow
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we're not here to make people look like fools

hollow shell
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I can't imagine why the timer wouldn't work, but if it can be consistently shown (with a video or something) that they are able to hurt you prior to 3 seconds after spawning, then you can submit it as a bug to #bugs-read-pins
@autumn lion

autumn lion
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well if someday i catch them up doing what happened on video, then sure

hollow shell
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Aight

radiant meadow
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probably got the guardians to spawn farther away than usual

autumn lion
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actually it did happened more than 1 time, my 1st deathmode playthrough got it like 3-4 times

hollow shell
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You could try catching it on video intentionally instead of, like
waiting for it to happen while you just so happen to be recording

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Could take a few tries but if something's not working I (and Ozza) would like to know

autumn lion
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yeah true

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i'll try when i can

hollow shell
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Alrighty

lost agate
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Can confirm, i have phased through a lot of cosmic guardians while they were still invulnerable

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So maybe its something wonky on your end

earnest raptor
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Prefixes for Enemies or Enemy Affixes can be a source

silent berry
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slime purupuru

runic pewter
silent berry
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minus 20

late shale
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How possible is a pet channel? 👀

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for people to show off their wonderful critters

runic pewter
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no

late shale
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and your reasoning?

runic pewter
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salt

teal ibex
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still no patience i see bingSpy

runic pewter
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oh you said reasoning, not seasoning

ashen warren
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Is that a meme suggestion?

placid moth
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Likely.

elder kestrel
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@shut estuary oi, give proper suggestions please

shut estuary
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Oof ok

elder kestrel
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give reasons why; what the boss would do; etc.

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just elaborate in general

placid moth
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Are boss suggestions even allowed

ashen warren
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Not accepted =/= not allowed

elder kestrel
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They're allowed, like they won't get you in trouble

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But they don't get accepted

shut estuary
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Is it good?

placid moth
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Uh...

ashen warren
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I'll be blunt.
No.

shut estuary
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Oof

ashen warren
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But it's not terrible.

elder kestrel
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you need to explain

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HOW the boss would work

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you can't just ask to add a boss, and then not actually go into detail about the boss

eager palm
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(boss suggestions are not allowed tho)

ashen warren
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Holy shit, applehee is the person who made the format pin.
We've gone full-circle.

eager palm
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(so you get no stars cause you didnt read the rules)

elder kestrel
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hlelyes sequence

ashen warren
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If they aren't allowed reword the rules smh.

eager palm
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applehee more like

shut estuary
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I'mma just delete it

eager palm
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alphi smells

shut estuary
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Bad idea anyway

placid moth
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^

rich inlet
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Idk why i suddenly thought about this

ashen warren
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Good idea tbh.

void kelp
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ya it’s a good idea

elder kestrel
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It's simple and good, yea

torn cliff
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Thinking about it, you could also do it with the great sand shark or whatever it is called

blissful heart
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whats the difference between the green and blue checks?

void kelp
blissful heart
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oh yeah

earnest raptor
frail mantle
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smh my head advertising one's own suggestion smugyon

faint rivet
sinful steeple
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DoG is a really fun boss though

faint rivet
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I liked DoG when his health wasn't so high and weapon options weren't so limited unless you feel like doing basically 0 damage

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Crystalline's part of Celestus

shadow creek
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I know.

faint rivet
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No need to upgrade an exo-tier wep imo

shadow creek
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Celestus isn't a crystalline type weapon.

frail mantle
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maybe elaborate a little on that suggestion

shadow creek
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It's a boomerang.

mystic sandal
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what about mine

placid girder
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I want dog sentinel phase to work like bossrush so it respawns the sentinel of they despawn

shadow creek
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Maybe it could inflict a debuff.

faint rivet
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I never said that Celestus wasn't a boomerang, but do elaborate on that suggestion, and presumably find a replacement for the Shattered Sun in the Celestus' recipe if you really want Shattered Sun (Crystalline) to have it's own post-SCal weapon

mystic sandal
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i think a possible replacement for shattered sun could be a seafoam bomb upgrade if that ever happens

shadow creek
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Maybe Shattered Sun + Shadowspec Bars + Calamitous Essence

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I mean, Ballistic Poison Bomb could be considered an upgrade to Seafoam Bomb.

faint rivet
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Shadowspec Bars are off-limits for suggestions

shadow creek
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o?

frail mantle
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shadowspec bars are exclusively for dev items

faint rivet
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Pins exist for a reason

shadow creek
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right, um

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fuck, I'm lost

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um

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what could be another material

frail mantle
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shadowspec bars aren't allowed, while calamitous essence is

mystic sandal
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it could be some darksun fragments

shadow creek
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^

mystic sandal
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oh, i have an idea for the name

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Broken Eclipse

shadow creek
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How's demon flames for 0.5 seconds as it's inflicting debuff?

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hmm

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?

hearty spade
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Wasn't answering to your question sorry

civic rampart
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So it's a javelin at the start then illustrious knives after the split

shadow creek
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I'm trying to think of something

pale bluff
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Why not have an Exo Javelin?

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and make it fire a bullet hell spread of Javelins once you threw one

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maybe call it the "Frame Dropper 9000"

pulsar notch
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Make pickaxe range also increase block placement range. The effect does not stack, and comes from the highest-tier pickaxe in your inventory.

Why? The range of later-game pickaxes is next to useless in building, as your building range never increases. In short, this change would make building much easier as you progress.

Anything to clean up with this, or is it good?

radiant meadow
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People always say how Crystalline line isn't a boomerang and doesn't fit very well in Celestus recipe.
Meanwhile, Spear of Paleolith and Executioner's Blade cry in a corner, forgotten

void river
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Wonder why the topic of mod dev vanity sets havent been tossed around

void kelp
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probably a calamity’s vanities thing ngl

shadow creek
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anything to add to my crystalline suggestion?

bitter topaz
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dev vanity sets are only getting in if a dev wants them.
as, ya know, they're dev items. for devs.

radiant meadow
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Dev weps are pretty cool as is

ashen warren
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An unlimited rogue weapon for Providence?
Something on par with Xeroc Pitchfork.

hollow shell
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For Providence?
Elemental Disk?

ashen warren
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Oh right.

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That thing is in there.

hollow shell
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Yeah

ashen warren
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I said nothing then.

radiant meadow
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It requires high iq to use effectively on Prov though

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Good for donuts at least

ashen warren
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Maybe a classless weapon, that would cause Vulnerability Hex both on enemies and player upon use? (15/5 sec?)

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To make it fair.

hollow shell
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wtf

ashen warren
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Or cause Ichor for 1 minute?

radiant meadow
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-50% flight time AAAAA

ashen warren
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😄

radiant meadow
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-25% dr HDhurdur

ashen warren
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Anything better than that Lunic Eye.

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But cripple player to compensate.

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Or a weapon, that would cause the Betsy's Curse debuff?

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Something with 200+ damage, post Providence?

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Just a suggestion, tho.

radiant meadow
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Too bad all bosses pml are immune

hybrid ocean
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what if some Rogue armors had an ability similar to Asgardian Valor but made you faster and gave you stealth while running and the ability to dash through enemies

shadow creek
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anything I should add to my Broken Eclipse weapon?

hybrid ocean
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Rogue Armors Hot Key Abilities

i feel like Some Rogue Armors should get more unique abilities, as i heard they just have the stealth effect similar to the shroomite armor, you have to stay still and it stops after you hit something, and imagine not being able to use the class main ability during a boss fight because you have to stand still

(The effects only affect certain armors)
1- Assasin/Ninja-like Temporal Effect: You become faster and generate stealth while running, get the climbing gear effect and can dash through enemies dealing 125% of your weapon's damage

2- Creating Clones to trick enemies: they could rarely deal 20% of your weapon damage and have 25% of your max hp and defense

3- Being in stealth mode will sometimes instakill normal enemies and deal 2x/3x damage to Bosses: The 2x/3x Effect will only happen if you enter stealth mode while fighting the boss and only happen X amount of times during the fight so you don't get free damage

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what do y'all think

civic rampart
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3 is kinda op, like you can enter stealth and instakill anything except bosses with rogue stuff, a post dog acc effect in any rogue armor

chrome holly
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Okay, I have a suggestion to improve phaseblades/sabers, which are completely forgotten weapons in vanilla

sinful steeple
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I don't think mind rape is a very good name for a debuff. Just saying

chrome holly
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ok

summer egret
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Maybe not rape yea

sinful steeple
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It sounds like something... Bad

summer egret
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Mind break maybe

chrome holly
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changed to "intrusion"

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actually mind break is better

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So, what do you think about the rest, anyway?

summer egret
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Eh

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I dont like star wars so

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Idc really

sinful steeple
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I like it

chrome holly
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I wanted to do 2 extra upgrades (would have been phasesword, and crafted with fragments and cosmilite) but I had no idea for unique powers

livid coral
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I planned on a Phaseblade Upgrade being the Z-Saber

quick dove
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yes yes please

chrome holly
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Call me an idiot but what's the Z-saber

quick dove
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zero's saber

ashen warren
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From Mega Man X

lime pasture
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gotta have the pizza cutter attack

hybrid ocean
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does the Lunatic Cultist have a Nebula Related attack? his attacks all resemble the pillars except for this one

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the Lightning Ball: Vortex
the Stars that you can destroy: Stardust
the Fireball burst: Solar

void river
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the cultist starts summoning purple skulls once he gets enough clones

lime pasture
hybrid ocean
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yeah but the purple faces don't really look like nebula

sinful steeple
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The ancient light and ancient doomers aren't stardust or nebula, Lunatic Cultist fires ice, that's stardust

hybrid ocean
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ancient lights are stars and use a similar palette

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if not the same

sinful steeple
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Ancient lights and doomers are unrelated, they have more to do with the Cultist

autumn lion
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why tentacles

hybrid ocean
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based on shadowflame voodoo doll

sinful steeple
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50% of the nebula enemies have tentacles excluding the pillar

hybrid ocean
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and that

autumn lion
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yeet

shadow creek
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what should I add to my Broken Eclipse suggestion?

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I need i d e a

hybrid ocean
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maybe the godslayer darts explode on contact making a 10 block large explosion that pushes enemies away

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basically a big ass supernova

ashen warren
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"situationally"
Bro a projectile push would OP as shit.

summer egret
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Very slow use time dummy

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Still

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I guess

mystic sandal
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very slow use isn't snail speed

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and besides, the mana flower exists

summer egret
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Fixes

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Fixed

mystic sandal
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i also think it should be crafted at a mythril anvil since using this against prehardmode bosses would be insane

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imagine using it on queen bee in revengeance when she's shooting her stingers

ashen warren
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Imagine that shit on scal.

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Suddenly she's easy.

mystic sandal
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went from bullet hell to this is literally just the plantera alternative calamitas with some other stuff

ashen warren
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Its...fricken...enter the gungeon

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That's literally enter the gungeon

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ITS ENTER THE GUNGEON DAGGUMMIT

jaunty bronze
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IS THAT A MOTHER GUNNING ENTER THE GUNGEON REFERENCE?

ashen warren
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T'is.

fast helm
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I got a suggestion idea.

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An accessory that makes your hitbox smaller

ashen warren
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..Would be way too strong

sinful steeple
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But why

fast helm
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Bullet hell

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In small areas where you need to dodge bullets, it'll help a lot

ashen warren
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Shrinking your hitbox would be like adding blanks.
Stupidly strong.

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How many attacks hit just your head or feet?

fast helm
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a lot

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i'm not thinking of a large decrease

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actually that idea is bad

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eliminating it from my mind

shadow creek
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what should I add to my rogue weapon suggestion? Imo it feels kinda bland.

jolly kettle
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the one about the crystallines progression?

shadow creek
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ye

jolly kettle
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i mean most of them act the same way.

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but with a little added bonus.

shadow creek
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Mhm

teal marlin
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In one of the planned boss fights, you receive an npc ally and fight together

shadow creek
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I want mine to be unique

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fsr

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tho that may be a problem or smth

jolly kettle
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calamitas vs yharim

teal marlin
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Maybe Calamitas seeing a chance to kill Yharim, and joining you to deal the killing blow

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In the final phase, he restrains you, and calamitas knows it’s over if she doesn’t act

shadow creek
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maybe Broken Eclipse (my crystalline upgrade)

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could um

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Have a chance to shoot a god slayer dart?

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idk

frosty kindle
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Broken Eclipse, Shattered Sky/skies, (tbh any sort of name along those lines)

shadow creek
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Ye, someone suggested Broken Eclipse as the name

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I want it to be unique like the other post-scal weapons

jolly kettle
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summons brimstone monsters

shadow creek
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hmm

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Maybe hellblasts?

frosty kindle
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provided that the upgraded one will have similar mechanics to the crystalline... i have an idea

shadow creek
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oh?

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I wanted it to inflict Demon Flames for half a second

frosty kindle
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the main projectile will be able to home in, splitting based on distance (or time if wanted)
if the main projectile hits, inflict a really nasty powerful debuff of sorts (or more) and leave a lingering explosion that hits the target multiple times, with a large AoE

if any of the split projectiles hit, rain down bolts from the sky that hit said target multiple times

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more splits = more bolts basically

shadow creek
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hmm nice

frosty kindle
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idk about balancing, but thats what i have for a crystalline-inspired upgrade

jolly kettle
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maybe look like supreme calamatis on the hilt or something, the eyeball version

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unless

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is eyeball being changed

shadow creek
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would the split projectile also home in?

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or not?

jolly kettle
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i heard about calamitas human form and curse

frosty kindle
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a strategy so-to speak with the weapon will rely on hitting the enemy/boss with the main projectile first to get that debuff lasting on the enemy, then murder them with the split projectile effects
also only the main proj. homes in so its not easy blind-fire

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if splits could home in it'd practically be illust. knives clone

shadow creek
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could it also have a chance to spawn a homing god slayer dart?

jolly kettle
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god slayer dart on a calamatis weapon seems kinda weird

sinful steeple
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God slayer is cosmilite

shadow creek
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right

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um

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I'm lost again

jolly kettle
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lets just make a brimstone/shadowspec dart

shadow creek
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maybe it could be a brimdart from scal's battle

jolly kettle
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does she have a dart?

shadow creek
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ye

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it's an attack from her

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look on the wiki, you'll see the brimstone dart

sinful steeple
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But why

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There is no benefit to afternoon or midnight

vestal elbow
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Fireblossom bloom tho

sleek wadi
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Because Cosmolight can't proc random events, there would be no point to this. If it could, then MAYBE you could use it for meteor spawns

radiant meadow
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perhaps let it reverse time w/ right click

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like what sunlight and moonlight do as of now

jolly kettle
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I mean one mode could be start of day night, then other clock be the time that you are currently I’m but in it’s opposite mode

sleek wadi
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So 2nd click would advance time by 12 hours instead of just jumping to start of day/night?

radiant meadow
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kind of

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reversing time is weird

brazen wedge
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wait 90 stars now!?

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what

earnest raptor
dusty stirrup
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We're not switching throwing to rogue

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Besides, it's gonna be ranged stuff by 1.3.6

earnest raptor
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Include that into restrictions pins.

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To prevent that kind of suggestions.

frail mantle
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Tbh one of the rules should say something like “ Don’t suggest things like re-adding the LORDE or Astrageldon, converting Throwing to Rogue and vice versa, adding a meme channel etc.”

distant gyro
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^

novel pebble
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"Since Throwing will be Ranged, convert Ranged to Rogue because It needs more variety"

ruby cobalt
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convert everything to rogue

novel pebble
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The Rogue Mod

ruby cobalt
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Rogue One HDfailure

faint rivet
earnest raptor
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Idk in Pixel Dungeon rogue can use all types of weaponsHyperFailure

reef swift
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Scal and Aureus now turn invisible when standing still due to everything being rogue

faint rivet
tired haven
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Scal already turns invisible from time to time darylsweating

faint rivet
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True

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But summons and ichor reveal her location

reef swift
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But now with even more! invisible!

tired haven
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I mean player would be revealed with ichor too

reef swift
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Who uses ichor
Against SCal

faint rivet
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Pretty much everyone lefailure

tired haven
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Any exo wep really

reef swift
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Wait does Elemental Mix inflict ichor

ruby cobalt
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Yup.

reef swift
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Oh

tired haven
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Not a hassle to spew a single shot from Golden Gun to 1.5x the dps tbh

faint rivet
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If you're not using Immat 'cause u want more dps, ye

tired haven
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Or just use memee because it has 2(!) universal ichor sources, flask and gauntlet HyperFailure

faint rivet
reef swift
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more! ichor!

faint rivet
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The more the merrier, obviously

proven tide
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@pearl acorn no

quiet abyss
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Uh, no
That'd just be obnoxious

pearl acorn
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(

proven tide
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don't even think about it

pearl acorn
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Ohhh

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How nice

faint rivet
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Yeah no

pearl acorn
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Here we have a guy with 999999 platinum in bankXD

quiet abyss
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We're blunt because that's how it normally is, in here
It's been stated in pins that you should discuss in here first before you make any suggestions so you can receive feedbacks

pearl acorn
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Welp

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I realize my mistake

quiet abyss
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Just remember to discuss about it in here first next time
I'm aware that having your suggestion shot down like that can be rather demotivating

pearl acorn
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ok

chrome holly
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I dunno what to think about the lastest star amount raise

brave birch
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well, server is getting bigger, so i reckon its a smart move

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60 stars is much more easily attainable i'm guessing, so that was probably why, to make the quality community filter more strict

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im guessing, ive barely been here for like 4 weeks or something lol

chrome holly
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I think there should have been a step at 80 or something

brave birch
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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it is quite a big leap, but the decision was made i suppose

hearty spade
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It was decided by a public poll

chrome holly
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The poll was very close tho

hearty spade
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That's how democracy works ¯_(ツ)_/¯

chrome holly
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It's well known, democracy is the worst system, if you except all others.

faint rivet
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Well the majority of the people who voted are happy

worthy fiber
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Besides, maybe the implementation chance will increase HDfailure

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And besides besides we're supposed to be finding out if a large amount of the community agrees with the suggestion anyway

faint rivet
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This is all true hahayes

chrome holly
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Time will tell

autumn lion
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it's upped to 90 stars, read the pins of the suggestions channel

lost agate
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Ah yes another make throwing into rogue suggestion

floral linden
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I heavily doubt that's possible.

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I mean, it's possible to make a copy of the weapon that's rogue, but probably not a good idea to outright convert the original weapon.

autumn lion
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it's possible tho

floral linden
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Albiet, more difficult than it's worth. Like I said, just creating a copy of the weapon and making that rogue should do just fine.

lost agate
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Yes it is possible but it wont happen

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One of the devs just said it

floral linden
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And there we go.

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Besides, I kinda want my ranged grenades back so I can make EoW my bitch again.

lost agate
clear basin
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blanks for calamity

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i approve

chrome holly
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What's the thing with ranged grenades?

alpine copper
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The star wars suggestion is now 71 stars

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Lol

tender obsidian
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where are the modds

faint rivet
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Wdym

tender obsidian
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oh nvm

lost agate
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Wat

faint rivet
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Ye wot

tender obsidian
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ah there we are

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some suggestions need oofing

lost agate
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Like what?

faint rivet
tender obsidian
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thinks very carefully

lost agate
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Then nothing it is
Nice to meet you

tender obsidian
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let me put it this way: "No, we aren't going to change vanilla throwing to rogue because rogue and throwing aren't the same thing"

lost agate
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Oh that

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He can get the stars if he wants but its pointless

ruby cobalt
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Literally nobody cares.

tender obsidian
lost agate
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Yeah nothing will really happen if i delete or not, either way it wont be implemented

tender obsidian
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ok....

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don't mind me i just didn't like the look of all the white exclamation marks

lost agate
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And i dont like how randos react to that exclamation but hey

tender obsidian
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yeah

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better to leave things as they are

ornate pecan
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Wut

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@last star I don't get your suggestion at all

last star
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@ornate pecan just want some dps meter of sorts that can track multiple peoples dps

ashen warren
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Can't you just test your dps individually and compare it

last star
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are weirdly no updated mds for it

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*mods

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well people tend to talk shit and its hard to see during a fight who is doing work and who is slacking

ornate pecan
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Plus I think you aren't allowed to vote for yourself, just saying

last star
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removed it

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the vote

languid dome
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i mean, nothing is really stopping you

frail mantle
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you're allowed to self-star, it's just frowned upon

ornate pecan
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yeah there you go

bitter topaz
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the suggestion doesn't exactly fit in with calamity imo
calamity has next to no mp focused content, and very little utility content either.

last star
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its not a neccesary feature but it would be a neat feature

worthy fiber
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QoL content =/= content Calamity needs

bitter topaz
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^

worthy fiber
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Lots of people seem to neglect that

bitter topaz
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this suggestion would suit something like luiafk or its own mod much better

last star
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fair enough 😃

chrome holly
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QoL content has its place in Calamity tho

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cf all the vanilla item recipes

lost agate
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Yeah but its only to help with the trip

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All QoL stuff is so you dont have to focus on like grinding for ankh

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Not just for flavour

worthy fiber
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And the Ankh's part of the Asgard's Valor recipe

lost agate
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Yeah thats why the grinding is reduced

worthy fiber
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The mod's QoL content's based around what the mod wants to do, basically

lost agate
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pretty much

ornate pecan
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Btw my idea for the pitch is supposed to be able to made into napalm

agile cloud
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@alpine copper I'm late, but Re-Logic has said that they are ditching throwing altogether, no point in converting

lost agate
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Yeah it was already said

ornate pecan
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RIP throwing, you will be missed

ashen warren
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not really

lost agate
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I already missed it because on HM because theres none, lole

tender obsidian
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the most recent suggestion is rather fun and interesting

alpine copper
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Im actually concerned by that fact since it can affect thrower elaborating mods like thorium or SoA

ornate pecan
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Maybe they have a plan in place

frail mantle
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afaik Thorium is gonna just make Throwing it's own class

alpine copper
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My thoughts exactly

ornate pecan
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that's one but what about the other

alpine copper
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Shadows of abbadon?

ornate pecan
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yes

alpine copper
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Probably will turn everything to ranged

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Dan didnt elaborated as much as thorium

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By the way, the tree tapping suggestion has a lot o potential

ornate pecan
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yeah and I will allow anyone to add on to it as they see fit

alpine copper
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Blood syrup could work as a cheap lesser rage buff and pitch as a cheap lesser wrath buff

ornate pecan
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It's just blood but I mean sure why not

alpine copper
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And combining it with a honey bottle and it corresponding potion in a cooking pot would make an enhanced version of said buff

bitter kiln
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erm i have kinda a longish suggestion but i dunno if it's a good idea or not it's regarding the dmg caps/hard caps as i was doing a full tank playthrough i learned of this and was like a bit disappointed to find that there is a dmg reduction hard cap at 34% =c (even though i can reach a max of 48% default (58% & 68% depending on my hp due to rampart of deities) note i wasn't using full dmg reduction accessories to even get this high

rapid pivot
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There are defense buffs for overflow reduction, aren't there?

bitter kiln
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i was suggesting to raise the dmg reduction so rampart of the deities isn't such a bad accessory as at the current moment if you get any dmg reduction the special ice turtle shield effect becomes worthless it's mostly just for the mana gain on being hit

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i don't know if it's a hard cap or not but i could not raise my dmg reduction beyond 34% even with all that

novel pebble
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You're not supposed to tank on calamity, though.

bitter kiln
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but i like doing every build possible D:

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done dmg/crit/mage/melee/ranged/rouge/summoner/movment speed and now tank it's kinda sad how even though i managed to get high def & dmg reduction it feels worthless overall

gusty geode
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I still don't see why there has to be a cap on DR, especially one this low
If your DR is so high the enemy can't hurt you, odds are your dps has been neglected so you can't do much to them either, so it balances out

bitter kiln
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well for me even though i went mostly dmg reduction i can still easily kill everything due to the melee armour

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which was kinda well sad

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this is likely due to how most of the dmg reduction accessories also offer some dmg (affliction, core of the blood god, bloodly worm scarf to name a few

opal barn
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You can literally get dr so high that you can't be damaged though

bitter kiln
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i'm gonna do the max possible dmg reduction i can get with potions active (i'll have to put 3 numbers due to rampart)

gusty geode
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But again, if you've focus on your DR so much it's gone past 100%, you probably won't be doing a ton of damage yourself

opal barn
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damage doesn't matter when you can't be killed

bitter kiln
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i still have 2033 on ark of the cosmos xD

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with full dmg reduction atm

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20 032 on exo blade which were the things i used end game and still almost instantly killed supreme cal

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the orb things that is

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instead of feeling like a tank i felt more like the same just a weaker version of melee

gusty geode
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Idk, if the cap can't be removed then can it at least be raised
Maybe to 99% so you can still have a tank build, but not be completely invincible

bitter kiln
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na i think it should be 50% cap and anymore dmg redcution is reduced in effectiveness by 75% so

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this means if you get more then 50 you have to at least get almost 10% more overcap before you gain 1 more in dmg reduction

opal barn
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you will still take 1 damage lmao

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regarding the 99%

gusty geode
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Unless they nerfed the Shell you can get past that with Beetle Armor alone

bitter kiln
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with focusing on dmg reduction i can get 42% base (34% is the current hard cap)

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while i could boost it more and equip the worm scarf i chose not to as my point it it's too low atm

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also when are they gonna make it so you can't stack core of the blood god with the worm scarff?

opal barn
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having a flat 42% damage reduction combined with the defense all of this gives you I'd say is a pretty good cap

bitter kiln
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34% is cap i can remove half of them and still reach it since potions give 15%

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these + potions give me 33% dmg reduction....

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1% away from cap...

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it's not a good cap it's too low

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note the potions i'm mentioning are endurance (10%) and yharn stims (5%)

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i orginally brought this up cause i thought rampart of the dieties was rather worthless for a tank build but... now that i look at this... and see how low the cap is and how easy it is to reach it...

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note they are warding (3% additional dmg red)

faint rivet
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I personally don't see any problem with the dr hardcap
Iirc it only applies to Rev+ anyway and it's not supposed to be tanked iirc (Rev+)

rapid pivot
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fabsol hates luigi%

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last i heard, anyway.

faint rivet
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Yeah he weakened the defense and health regen from Draedon's Heart (when bosses are alive) for a reason hahayes

hollow shell
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We already made the soft cap a bit less effective by giving you defense proportional to the DR that's over the cap

I don't think we're raising it

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(see details on the Defense and DR section on this page)

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!wiki Vanilla Changes

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Calamity Mod Wiki

The Calamity Mod changes several aspects and details regarding vanilla Terraria content, ranging from the order in which bosses can be fought in to which items are sold by NPCs.
The changes listed here occur as long as the Calamity Mod is installed, and are not restricted to any modded difficulty modes. See the Revengeance Mode or Death Mode pages for changes that occur exclusively within those modes.

bitter kiln
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my second suggestion is to add flasks to every class instead of it being a melee exclusive item (it'd take the same materials and have the same appearance it's just for each of the current classes) so for example you could make flask of ichor either apply to all classes or make variations on each of them so that melee isn't the only one with the ability to freely get bonus effects on all of their attacks this would make it so that i don't have to constantly swap weapons with ranged/magic/summoner classes while with melee i simply drink a flask of ichor to get the effect on any weapon

gusty geode
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Ichor Bullets with Ichor Flask deepthonk

bitter kiln
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it was mainly because of how with any melee weapon you can just buff it with ichor by using he potion giving the class a significant advantage over others since it also has alot of good weapons in this mod

rapid pivot
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oh dear

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uh

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i'd support making vanity pets not count towards the buff cap, but..

gusty geode
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But really tho, what'd be the point
Ranger has different ammo types there are bullets besides Chlorophyte you know and Mage has different spells that do different things
Summoner I can kinda understand but it's got stuff like the golden gun not ideal but it exists

bitter kiln
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well the main reason is because melee also has those things too ichor based weapons but it also has the ichor potion on top of it

gusty geode
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I've got no answer to that
That's honestly really dumb imo

ashen warren
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ichor based weapons for melee? thonk

bitter kiln
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well tbh it's just a suggestion so weather they decide to add it or not is completely up to them i just thought it'd be convient

gusty geode
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What stage are they at, anyway
In the later game I guess I could see it, but not at the same time as getting access to regular ichor

bitter kiln
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there are some melee weapons that apply the ichor debuff just none that are "true melee" aka no projectiles as far as i know atm

gusty geode
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When in the game do you get them, is what I'm asking

bitter kiln
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owh hardmode same time as when you could get the other melee variants

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so for example if you can make a poison flaks pre hardmode then you can make a poison flask that can also effect all other weapon types

gusty geode
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So you get melee weapons that inflict ichor
At the same stage as when you get a way to make any melee weapon inflict ichor darylsweating

bitter kiln
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ye

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i think there's one with fishing but....

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who fishes?

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Crimsaber (hardmode (crimtane bar + soul of night + ichor)

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and in vanilla if you fish in crimson u can get an ichor blade so it becomes kinda obsolete fairly quickly but since you can do that anytime it makes other classes unable to access ichor weapons till hardmode melee is the only class that has access to ichor weapons all game (if you choose to fish in the crimson for bladetounge)

gusty geode
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No, you can only catch that in hardmode

bitter kiln
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true

opal barn
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@golden shoal pretty sure the buff limit is hardcoded

vestal elbow
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only real way to bypass it is to use stuff that applies the buff without the buff icon like Luiafk or combo potions like the ones in alchnpc

golden shoal
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oh F

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should i delete it then?

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could they make a second type of buff

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like suggested?

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that would still fix it largly

gusty geode
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Any devs willing to tell me if my themed starter bags were accepted?

golden shoal
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@opal barn

opal barn
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You can suggest the other solution yeah

golden shoal
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sweet!!!

radiant meadow
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mfw snow globe still stacks to 1 HDfailure

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interestingly enough, both parts of Ozzatron's suggestion have been sent before

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@ashen warren at first, the stack size was so low because of how much dmg they do, but I understand that might not be the case anymore because of the limit in boss fights
you might want to add a reason to that suggestion

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also, grenade shells and explosive shotgun shells left in the dust

ashen warren
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Is that better?

radiant meadow
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maybe also mention how its limited in boss fights

void kelp
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@golden shoal can you go into further detail on the suggestion, like what sort of weapons?

radiant meadow
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because if it was a higher stack size before, you could stockpile and steamroll bosses much easier

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@last star I don't know if anyone told you yet, but another mod already does that.
It's called DPSExtreme.

golden shoal
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eyy

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fellow mon 😃

radiant meadow
golden shoal
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how's ou?

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lol

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also i'm thinking of weapons rnow

void kelp
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mega sableye being temporarily in UU topkek but also, cool concept

golden shoal
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any ideas guys?

radiant meadow
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as cool as pokemon are, move to #general-media if you want to discuss that HyperFailure

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or talk suggestions 👍

golden shoal
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i think the summon weapon needs to be unique and unlike the sentry or the accessory summons

void kelp
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so what about like.. a rogue weapon that’s kinda like a profaned essence bomb

golden shoal
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yes

void kelp
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like a holy fire bomb or holy fire whatever

golden shoal
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yeah

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name....

void kelp
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and summon is honestly hard to think of since there’s already the profaned energy staff

golden shoal
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yeah

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and the accessory that summons guardians

void kelp
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yeah

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hm. what about w that profaned beast, having summonable sundogs

golden shoal
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DOGGS

void kelp
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or another overhead summon like the chlorophyte crystal/sun god staff etc etc. that’s that one enemy that shoots out energy and has those chain parts

golden shoal
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oh yeah

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so like that one enemy

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what would it be called

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profained chain staff?

void kelp
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Dunno.

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up to you

golden shoal
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i finished it

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i can imagine them in the game

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though the summon might be hard to code? not sure

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i imagine most of it would be similar to the enemy

gusty geode
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Am I the only one who thinks post-ML should have more filler enemies?
Like, you know how when Hardmode activates, some enemies start appearing that serve no purpose besides getting in your way (Possessed Armors and Wraiths are the most noteworthy examples), but in Calamity's post-ML there isn't anything like that
I kinda wanna change that
That sound like something worth expanding on?

golden shoal
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hmmm

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i like that idea 😃

hollow shell
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Ideally, they wouldn't be filler

golden shoal
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yeah

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like have some drops but be there mostly for atmosphere

hollow shell
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Best scenario is having a wealth of content which serves purposes
rather than
content that serves no purpose

golden shoal
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jungle needs more

radiant meadow
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tbf, wraiths drop fast clocks and possessed armors are given a drop in calamity (psychotic amulet)

golden shoal
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it'd make mining uelibloom more interesting

sleek wadi
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Jungle needs less tbh

golden shoal
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yeah they should have drops

sleek wadi
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Kinda bloated.

golden shoal
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it needs more for pml tho

hollow shell
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Could have enemy replacements Post-ML?

golden shoal
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yeah

sleek wadi
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Jungle has Bumblefuck, Uelibloom, and Yharon for content. Snow biome doesn't exist.

golden shoal
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like irradiated man eater

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that's the point

gusty geode
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I say if the Jungle has too much compared to everything else, give everything else enough new stuff to compare to it

golden shoal
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it has bosses n such but no mobs

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you just waltz through the jungle unless theres a big bad eating

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you

sleek wadi
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World evils don't exist, astral biome doesn't exist, desert doesn't exist etc.

hollow shell
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Astral has content :<

golden shoal
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snow biome needs more in pml no question

sleek wadi
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Not in post-ml and certainly not in the underground.

golden shoal
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yeah

hollow shell
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Hm..

golden shoal
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you go there for like 2 mobs

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and then leave

hollow shell
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Astral could use Post-DoG content
That seems fitting.

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GSI and whatnot

golden shoal
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yeah

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i think pml tho

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cause astrum aurus

sleek wadi
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Astral should get some content pre-Deus and post-DoG.

golden shoal
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yes

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LOL

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nice item

radiant meadow
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the question is though whether gsi is a filler debuff like silva stun on sunken sea weps or if they are meant to do that

golden shoal
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gsi?

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what dat

sleek wadi
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God Slayer Inferno

golden shoal
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oh

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what do you mean?

radiant meadow
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not to mention for some reason, none of doggo's drops inflict god slayer inferno HDfailure

hollow shell
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@ashen warren It does, if you make/have an account and use the WikiBackground gadget
as stated in lil text on the front page

golden shoal
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oh yeah that is weird

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the gsi

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thing

hollow shell
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Lotta Cosmilite weapons inflict it though

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so

radiant meadow
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frostburn is kind of like a gsi wannabe since doggo drops and some astral drops inflict it but gsi is also inflicted by those select astral drops

gusty geode
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You're forced to go through the moon invasions several dozen times in the late game, maybe some new stuff could be added there
If only to make them less stale when you come back for them post-DoG

hollow shell
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Yes that'd be nice
More Endothermic/Nightmare enemies

sleek wadi
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Maybe we could decentralize some of the event moon content and spread it out.

hollow shell
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Maybe also add a few outside of the event?
Endothermic enemies showing up in the Snow biome, Nightmare enemies showing up in the world evils

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oh hey

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(that would make documentation a bit harder but hlmmllhnln the wiki people will find a way)

frosty kindle
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maybe even some nightmare enemies in hell?

hollow shell
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Hell gets enough content with the Profaned stuff
and the Brimstone Crag

frosty kindle
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true

hollow shell
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It'd be better to put em in the world evils

sleek wadi
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Hell, remember Ice Golem? How about we have it cease to exist in post-ML, then once post-DoG rolls around it pops back up as some upgraded version that acts like the golem boss.

hollow shell
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They become very irrelevant very fast

gusty geode
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Yeah, there's currently exactly 3 enemies between them (6 if you count the bosses and both Blight Slimes)

frosty kindle
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ice golem is a bigger threat than golem GWjianGodLUL

sleek wadi
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Keeps the Frost Core drops, but then can drop some Endothermic Energy and maybe some ice variants of the golem drops.

void kelp
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I like the idea of there being ice and evil biome enemies that drop endothermic energy and nightmare fuel, respectively

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new enemies altogether or buffed versions of an enemy

chrome holly
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YAY 90 stars

autumn lion
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gj

proven tide
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first post-update suggestion
95 stars
feelsgoodman

queen delta
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How about a good weapon for yharon? All we get is galaxia tbh

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I'm thinking a shiv upgrade called cosmic shiv

hollow shell
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@ashen warren That's not a very good reason for why they should be removed
If the problem is that they aren't effective enough, then surely that's evidence that they need to be more strict, right?

fervent zealot
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honestly a post-boss method of severely weakening or otherwise removing damage caps would be really nice

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gets real annoying to grind later bosses

ashen warren
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I agree

chrome holly
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Am I the only one to think there should be an easier way to get rage? It takes ages right now

sinful steeple
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Go on a slime

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Rage in like 30 seconds

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Nurse should sell steroids that give you instant rage

radiant meadow
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that's funny, been talking about infernados in other servers HyperFailure

hollow shell
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Good suggestion

void kelp
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maybe even like a slight color change?

teal ibex
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color could be neat but i feel like the transparent fade in would be more like an eruption of flames

hollow shell
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I'm debating whether or not a fade or a jarring transition would be more effective

Because a fade would give you an idea of when it is going to become tangible, like a time limit
whereas a jarring transition from low opacity to opaque would be clearer exactly when it will hurt you

radiant meadow
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phase 1 is jarring

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so phase 2 should be as well

teal ibex
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i think the fade would probably be a bit more thematically fitting and interesting for dodging

radiant meadow
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at least imo

hollow shell
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What happens in phase 1?

radiant meadow
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the gaps appear

teal ibex
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since having a hard cutoff would kinda reduce some of the tension imo

radiant meadow
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starting from the bottom up

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so like change color from say green to orange all of a sudden from the bottom up

hollow shell
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Hm, yeah

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Or it could be like
fade from ~25% opacity up to ~75% opacity
but once it reaches 75% it instantly jumps to 100%

void kelp
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imo I like the idea of a yellow to orange color change since when yharon turns yellow when transitioning to phase two you can’t hurt him

hollow shell
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so you've got both the fade timer and the exact point

void kelp
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so maybe the connection can be made by the player that the yellow infernadoes can’t hurt them

hollow shell
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(actually Yharon cycles through all the colors of the rainbow, so)

low remnant
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This is separate, but I feel like the Herring Staff should be nerfed a bit or the Corro/Crimslime summons should be empowered a bit; the fish are just way more powerful relatively speaking

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maybe I went to the Abyss prematurely

radiant meadow
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if you have a good arena

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the slimes completely demolish wall of flesh

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the herring suck tbh HDfailure

ashen warren
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corro slime buff despite killing wof in 30 seconds HyperFailure

radiant meadow
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the hungry distract them very much

low remnant
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o

radiant meadow
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it was 20 LUL

ashen warren
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even better

low remnant
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for single target enemies, the fish do better per minion slot

radiant meadow
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thing is, you just get the slimes to ignore the hungry and go straight for WoF

low remnant
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mebbe im bad HyperFailure

radiant meadow
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herring don't listen to minion targetting

low remnant
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o

radiant meadow
teal ibex
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if you're playing just for general use then slimes aren't as good for sure

low remnant
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aight then

teal ibex
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but their capacity for excellence is like

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very very high

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so buffing them is too dangerous

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wall of flesh being a very good example

low remnant
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so fish for grinding; slimes for WoF ?

teal ibex
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yeah basically

radiant meadow
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fish for slime god as well

low remnant
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kewl. Ta for the info

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well, yeah

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using Corroslime for Slime God: day 1

radiant meadow
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after wof, it's clasper time 😎

low remnant
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mm

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I hate the AI of those things

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but

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meh

radiant meadow
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more like shellfish since they're op as shit

low remnant
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^

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not going to update till I get a better summon past that lmao

radiant meadow
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well, it's getting nerfed for good reason

teal ibex
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they were actually so busted it's unreal

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somebody get me on calamity testing team for summoner bingPog

low remnant
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they don't still do e p i c damage

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?

radiant meadow
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idk, nobody tested it yet

teal ibex
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they'll still be very solid

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just not fundamentally busted to the core

jolly kettle
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Now to fix rest of summoner HDfailure

low remnant
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also which is better, Daedelus or Mollusk?

radiant meadow
low remnant
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lmao just about to say that

teal ibex
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also, i'm curious

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general concensus is that yharon on summoner is kinda very rude?

radiant meadow
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you mean summoner on yharon?

terse sundial
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It's not great for p1

teal ibex
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mhm

radiant meadow
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where you vore fluffy dragon with god eating mechworm and yharon children?

terse sundial
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p2 you get Yharon's kids, and it's so much more bearable

teal ibex
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i didn't get the nuggets before yharon 2 was activated LOL

radiant meadow
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p1 is doable but tough

teal ibex
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so i had to do it without them

queen delta
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just kill yharon again before killing a mothron

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can get unlimited bags

teal ibex
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yeah i forgot mothron was the trigger and wanted silva, it was a big old whoopsy

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anyway, was considering that maybe yharon could have slightly extended pauses for spawning tornados, namely in p1 like you guys mentioned, to push summoner slightly closer to the difficulty scale of other classes

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though it might be a little too much considering how much potency rippers on a motionless enemy is

radiant meadow
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mechworm+rippers = ono

quiet abyss
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Honestly imo right now the pauses Yharon has in all his subphases are enough for summoner rippers (or just summoner in general)

radiant meadow
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depends on how good you are with yharon's patterns tbh

teal ibex
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i think at a high level it definitely normalizes out

radiant meadow
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summoner requires you to know the patterns a lot more

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but mechworm can do intense dmg

teal ibex
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but before learning the exact opportunities, it felt pretty loathesome to attempt

radiant meadow
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unless it commits dum

quiet abyss
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It's not too long nor too short for me personally.
Albeit I wouldn't mind nor object making the pauses just a tiny bit longer, like 20 frames longer or smth

teal ibex
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it kinda does that a lot tbf bingDerp

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i think a very slight difference could go a long way without breaking the fight much

queen delta
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mechworm likes to do its own thing, but it still hits like a truck

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Yeah I agree that 20 frames wouldnt be too significant, but at the same time, I'm fine with the current time

arctic wren
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summoner rippers?

teal ibex
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adrenaline + rage with mechworm

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they're pretty insane

arctic wren
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oh

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right

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worm on yharon is a meme

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random spikes of 100k+ dps without rage/adren

radiant meadow
blissful heart
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Is my suggestion a good idea?

void kelp
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you don’t have to have them in your hotbar to use tho btw @ashen warren

ashen warren
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it still clutter?

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2 or 3 items could make the difference between having to or not having to make another trip to a place like the jungle

autumn lion
faint rivet
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Waiting for what

frail mantle
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I suggested that a few months ago as well, so I don’t know if it’ll be added

faint rivet
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Considering it has a blue tick I don't think it will be

autumn lion
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it got the 90 stars needed so we'll have to wait if it'll get implemented

faint rivet
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Something something reaching star requirement doesn't garuanteed implementation

autumn lion
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Blue tick = highly requested

marsh gust
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blue tick just means its sent to dev server tho

autumn lion
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if it's highly requested there might be a chance it'll get implemented

marsh gust
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there is a chance but its not 100% yea. and you have no way in knowing if its going to be implemented or nah

autumn lion
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just have to wait yet

frail mantle
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Re-adding the LORDE ha seen suggested a bunch of times but it’s never gonna be added

autumn lion
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The lorde is a meme

frail mantle
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Highly requested =/= likely to be added

autumn lion
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i had his summon item on my 1st playthrough tho

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was like 1 month ago

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lol

frail mantle
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Do you happen to have Apotheosis and Friends installed

faint rivet
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Likely does

autumn lion
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i only had calamity

frail mantle
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Then it probably was an old version

autumn lion
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nah

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it was updated

faint rivet
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Well lorde was removed quite some time ago so

autumn lion
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i had the lastest version when i had the summon item

faint rivet
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Doubt

autumn lion
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i think i updated when sea king was added

faint rivet
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Sunken Sea

autumn lion
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and i got the summon item there