RIDEABOUE DEVOURER OF THOTS
#suggestions-discussion
livid coral
lost agate
rideable thot
elder sparrow
does the link work
vestal elbow
yes
but I think a better location for it to spawn would be in the center of the world right when the event starts 
elder sparrow
that's where your house is most likely.
wait
literally the center of the world or center of surface?
either way wouldnt work
livid coral
Jared is indeed a good boye but I'd like the Aquatic Scourge as well as a pet. Great fishing buddy.
lucid marsh
What do you think about a revengance accessory that removes adrenaline but lowers boss DR or hp or increases your damage independently of normal caps?
I would want this because I don’t like using adrenaline and would rather just not have it but also have bosses balanced fairly without it
dusty stirrup
If you don't like adrenaline, just use the config
Rev isn't affected all that much by not using it, unlike death
hollow shell
well
The suggestion is for a trade-off rather than totally disabling the mechanic
Because you are put at a disadvantage by not having Rage/Adren at your disposal
lucid marsh
Yeah this would seriously help death mode but just be a nice option for regular rev. Because I can handle expert no problem but rev is a pretty big difficultly spike and I want to smooth that out with this option
dusty stirrup
Why not just make the config boost your damage then
proven tide
nicely done
lime mica
@elder sparrow did i steal that from you on accident or did you steal it from me on accident
proven tide
The Rogue Pillar is a very common idea, don't get your panties in a twist
lime mica
i'm not angry i wanted to know if i was unintentionally being a scumlord
lol i don't want to steal ideas is all
floral linden
You know... if stress was still a thing, I would have suggested the cardboard box as an accessory, which would have decreased stress, but limited movement. Because MGS references.
hollow shell
Why not do something with rogue class and stealth?
That'd be way more fitting
floral linden
I... was referencing the fact that the cardboard box in MGS4 decreased Snake's stress lol
But yea, Rogue does deserve some stealth gear.
hollow shell
who played mgs4 lmao
frosty kindle
the people that bought it...
sleek wadi
MGS4 is a movie that comes with a free game tbh
frosty kindle
just like KH3
hollow shell
no that's movies*
void kelp
pls roast me and my suggestion
hollow shell
@floral linden (just wanna make sure, you know about this, right? https://calamitymod.gamepedia.com/Rogue#Stealth)
void kelp
@floral linden what if your item just boosted the stealth cap instead of granting stealth?
hollow shell
oof 2ping
void kelp
it’d give the same bonuses while also letting an early rogue gain a little more stealth
oof ouch sorry for the x2
floral linden
Oof
terse sundial
I'd have it to where it full on replaces the stealth mechanic, or completely modifies is based on biome
hollow shell
What why
terse sundial
or atleast, removes the effects of the base stealth mechanics
I still believe that we could have accessories that modify the stealth mechanic, this one could change effects based off of biomes
void kelp
what if it added special effects for each camo?
floral linden
Ye, it's meant to be biome based.
void kelp
like “when stealthed in tundra, enemies have a chance to receive the frostburn debuff”
floral linden
Though, with the way stealth works currently, this item is redundant. Unless we add special effects like spookyacular suggested.
void kelp
yeah
I can see it as “increases your stealth cap by 30” or “when stealthed, your rogue attacks have a chance to apply an additional effect, depending on biome”
terse sundial
I like that
floral linden
Hmm... should I have it increase the stealth cap as well?
hollow shell
Maybe not by that much considering the cap difference between the first rogue armor and Auric Tesla is only 60
floral linden
I'll leave that one up to Fab then.
floral linden
Pretty good
radiant meadow
time to warn Jace for meme suggestion
uneven spoke
Fuck
cyan lagoon
Okay no
vestal elbow
can you put < > around the links at least
removes the embeds
cyan lagoon
We are not getting into copyright beef
If anything, the placeholder tracks would be vanilla's.
quiet abyss
@outer karma First, bosses will take a long time to come so it's highly unlikely that the bosses will come out before they get their themes.
Second, even if that does happen we'd rather not use songs with copyright, like ultra necrozma's theme from pokemon.
outer karma
@quiet abyss Makes sense, but the mod has used Nintendo music before, an example being the placeholder theme for providence.
radiant meadow
iirc, sanctuary was made long before sunken sea was released for testing
ye that caused issues
radiant meadow
hence it switched to a siren remix
outer karma
Makes sense.
Actually, now that I think about it, Yharim is going to take a LONG time to make, so his theme will likely be ready before the boss. I don’t think they’re just going to use THE LORDE again
quiet abyss
Let's not mention the L name 
radiant meadow
then you haven't seen Fab's latest april fools 
sly ermine
Dokuro will almost definitely have something for both of them, since we’ve known since like, the perforators, that they were gonna be a thing
outer karma
So, I’m going to guess that Yharim is basically going to have about 9001 bullet hells on crack? It kinda makes sense after Supreme Calamitas
radiant meadow
here is not the place to speculate
uneven spoke
Best not to discuss this here
outer karma
Ok
quiet abyss
Yharim is still a long, long way to go with how many updates we've planned inbetween him and the current one, a suggestion about him long before he's going to even be implemented is not really necessary.
radiant meadow
and there will very likely be an anti cheat already planned
albeit without those messages or ai
floral linden
Tbh Yharim could just pulverize the player using Dokuro's hammer.
quiet abyss
Let's not make any joke/meme-ish ideas now
floral linden
Aight
elder sparrow
Watch
Yharim will come out when i graduate
If a pillar were to be added i would definitely just make it take the place of the first pillar killed
And it spawns after the second
Only problem is that itll probably feel like a slog for players who want to get done with the lunar events, but that is subjective
Which may be part of the reason why rogue pillar ideas seem to be overlooked
frail mantle
I think there’s no new Calamity pillar because other mods already add new pillars, and Calamity tries not to copy other mods
low remnant
sees sunken sea
quiet abyss
If you're aiming for the "sunken sea is like aquatic depths" joke it ain't funny
lost agate
@hardy sparrow what do you even mean?
dusty stirrup
T-that's not even a suggestion
lost agate
^
faint rivet
Really don't know what he's even asking for 
faint rivet
fossil torrent
hue
eager palm
Whamt
lost agate
^
fossil torrent
hue x 2
lost agate
Excuse me but imma yayeet your suggestion
dusty plover
@dense oriole no the reaver shark exists as a great reward for fishing and a different form of progression
Its not op cause most calamity ores are spawned in upon boss kill
dense oriole
well, it still can mine pal&cobalts
dusty plover
Plus i dont think the mod should interfere with vanilla that much
dense oriole
no need to mine hellstone.
dusty plover
Yeah and? Thats hardmode only
play the game for crying outloud.
You need to kill the wall of flesh it makes no difference at all
Plus hellstone is needed for statigel armor
dense oriole
is there only me who never used statigel armor?
dusty plover
You dont wanna enter hardmode without hellstone/statigel armor
so its not op, at all
dense oriole
i almost enter the hardmode without hellstone and statigel armor..
dusty plover
Thats on you.
dense oriole
right, this on me.
ashen warren
Reaver shark used to be restricted by calamity, I liked it personally but fab changed it.
dusty plover
Have you ever even obtained the reaver shark?
ashen warren
Doubt it's gonna be renerfed.
dense oriole
10 in 10,
dusty plover
10 in what?
ashen warren
Wasn't that bad tbh.
Hellstone weapons are far from required and obsidian can be bombed.
dusty plover
I think his suggestion should be deleted cause it based on invalid information
Well thats good news then
ashen warren
Don't try and get people to delete their suggestion, that is not a good road for promoting learning and creativity.
dusty plover
I was saying he’d delete because it was just misinformed. So in a way im promoting research and learning
But if thats the rules then thats where i stop
reef swift
Aight I might change it then
reef swift
Shut the hell your mouth
ashen warren
Looks alright.
Do you want to add specific rates or no?
For reference, zerg is 30x increase.
reef swift
Weren’t stats up to the devs
ashen warren
It is, but it can get stars and make it easier to visualize level of power.
reef swift
Ok then
ashen warren
This is a suggestion I made a while back, it has stats for the "effects" which is generally considered ok. While specific usetime, damage, defense and et cetera are not.
However it's not stated to be remove-worthy in the rules.
In fact, most of the things there aren't.
reef swift
Aight, thanks
vocal fulcrum
turbid sedge
zerg for mass slaughter, bounty hunter for specific targets. I think it works out if bounty hunter is either a smaller multiplier or just changes spawn chance.
ashen warren
Also cause underground you get almost permanent armoured digger
hollow shell
@dense oriole You're gonna have to suggest some specific way for it to be nerfed,
because it has been nerfed in the past by making it unusable until EoW has been defeated, but then that got removed
floral linden
Perhaps nerf mining power until EoW Is defeated? (For Reaver Shark).
ashen warren
doesn't that just achieve the same goal as the reverted nerf tho
pliant bone
Buff the Optic staff.
Reason: It is pretty subpar to the Ice claspers and obviously the entropy's vigil making it a less viable option and the fact that you have to beat a boss that drops souls of sight while claspers can be obtained at the start of hardmode
Buffs: The retiminis either;
Have their lasers travel on a higher velocity or
Make them homing.
The spazminis inflicts cursed flames.
The weapon overall also gets a damage buff to a point where its dps is higher than claspers but lower than the entropy's virgil.
Thoughts?
ashen warren
damage buff is sure but homing??
pliant bone
^
ashen warren
ehh thatll work
fluid ravine
or firerate
agile cloud
That could also work
pliant bone
Although, iframes becomes an issue for that
agile cloud
Not entirely
agile cloud
true
ashen warren
maybe ignore them a lil bit of iframes
agile cloud
You could make the retinazers shoot faster and inflict less iframes, while spasmaminis do double listed damage
pliant bone
Maybe
agile cloud
without increasing weapon base damage
ashen warren
or reduce them a lil bit
pliant bone
Buff the Optic staff.
Reason: It is pretty subpar to the Ice claspers and obviously the entropy's vigil making it a less viable option and the fact that you have to beat a boss that drops souls of sight while claspers can be obtained at the start of hardmode
Buffs: The retiminis either;
Have their lasers travel on a higher velocity or make them homing but not perfectly. They are also given a boost in fire rate and they induce less iframes.
The spazminis inflicts cursed flames and does more damage in response to the higher fire rate of the retiminis
The weapon overall should its dps higher than claspers but lower than the entropy's virgil.
Better?
ashen warren
that gud imo
agile cloud
very gud
quick dove
if suggesting bosses is illegal and you know it why even post it
ashen warren
I think is a troll
radiant bough
Nah, legit serious, drew might actually like the idea too.
ashen warren
He added the waifus in as jokes dude
Then he changed them to elementals
Because the joke is dead
radiant bough
Not a joke mdude
ashen warren
Even if bosses were allowed in suggestions, why would a anthro slime goddess even be needed? Drops are missing. And I don't see how it could fit in the lore at all.
radiant bough
Slime girls are cute
ashen warren
Its a bit bare bones man
quick dove
radiant bough
Besides, bosses are not allowed, but the rules dont state anything about minibosses.
ashen warren
Alright, what would it drop?
radiant bough
Theres a pretty big difference between the twow
civic rampart
better not drop stardust
ashen warren
Yep, and minibosses are prevalent in events
radiant bough
Nice strawman
ashen warren
Well, back to formatting, if the boss is no longer a miniboss, a new introduction might be needed.
Next, what would it drop to make the boss unique? Would it drop weapons or drop lots of event related material?
Why else other than a liking to slime girls would the miniboss be needed?
opal barn
@rotund niche Yeah how about you explain this?
frail mantle
is it a suggestion
rotund niche
yup
unique vector
so uh
opal barn
Mhm, I'm gonna yeet the suggestion until you figure out what it does and whatever
dusty stirrup
Where is it in progression? What does it do?
distant gyro
complete the suggestion in here first maybe
rotund niche
hang on
unique vector
do you mind explaining what it actually does?
frail mantle
then at least explain what it is instead of just posting a random ass sprite
unique vector
next time make sure you put the sprite with an explanation of what its for and how it works in one message, instead of doing them one at a time
rotund niche
So if you want, here it is.
Breton Prime: Rarity Hot Pink
Damage: 550 Ranged
Knockback: 3 [Very Weak]
Critical Chance: 50%
Use Time: 1
Velocity: 30
Inflicts Debuff: Shred [10% Chance]
It's like a different gun option for you to create
distant gyro
recipe?
rotund niche
same recipe, just another option
rotund niche
So it's either you have the soma or the breton
opal barn
So far the reasoning isn't stellar
frail mantle
so basically it's "because this weapon is a reference to a game, make the exact same thing except it has a different sprite and name because i said so"
rotund niche
It's a suggestion not "Take this, because I said so"
they can deny it if they want to
I just wanna get back to spriting 😛
frail mantle
i just don't see the point
opal barn
Art server is a good place to ask for feedback
distant gyro
Pretty sure complete endgame weapon has a lower chance to be a thing
frail mantle
you seem to literally just be suggesting an already existing weapon with a different name and look
distant gyro
maybe make it an early post-ml thing
rotund niche
Hmm...
I'll see what I can just do for now, just yeet that idea. I'm gonna come up with something original instead 😛
hollow shell
Alrighty
rotund niche
Last time I came up with an original stuff was Pumpking's Mod and I just ran out of ideas after that xD
rotund niche
Yeah, Andrew just retired it
I'm just looking for a job at this point.
....Hang on I got my creative juices
BRB
Y'all remember the game Armored Core?
hollow shell
I know of it, but nothing about it
rotund niche
Idea suggestion: Karasawa
Rarity: Post-ML [Hot Pink]
Damage: 1400
Use Time: 12
Knockback: 6
Velocity: 25
Type of ammo it uses: Rockets
rotund niche
Shoot one, it creates an explosive blue field that does irradiated damage
Leaves an irradiation debuff for 2 seconds.
It has a unique bullet that's just a blue impact ball [gonna sprite that]
and it will feature a rifle scope mechanic
which I will get to the ingredients
Sniper Rifle, Snowman Cannon, Endothermic Energy x35, NIghtmare Fuel x35, Darksun Fragment x10, Bar Of Life x5, Galactica Singularity x10
and Iron x50
well Iron/Lead x50
gonna put this in or something
ashen warren
No image pls
rotund niche
ok
this weapon won't have autofire
also stand close to it, you will get the brunt of the 1400 damage unless of course you have the armor to resist it
ashen warren
@spiral olive the avenger emblem fixes that
Bc it gives u all the bonuses without needing all the emblems
sinful steeple
The avenger emblem can't craft the Daedalus emblem or the sigil of Calamitas though can they
spiral olive
Avenger emblem is also 3% less damage
hollow shell
btw @ashen warren "background color fill is extremely lazy"
It would have been even lazier to just reuse the Stardust and Nebula shaders instead of making custom ones :P
languid ermine
you have toremember that dog is a big boi
and not everyone can afford to have dog and the background without exploding
ashen warren
Dog is too big
languid ermine
putting the nebula and vortex background would make the fight laggier tbh
ashen warren
DoG in general is subpar imo, no amount of special backgrounds are gonna fix that
languid ermine
the dog fight is cool wdym
the only issue would be the segments all clumped up at the beggining when it spawns
floral linden
Background Toggle Meme
ashen warren
@hollow shell still it looks unnatural and should be replaced by something that looks more cosmic n stuff, follow the theme
dusty stirrup
Changing background every subphase change sounds like it'd be getting annoying after a while
floral linden
At most, only one background would be needed, which changes color when changing sub phase. If you're even going to make a new background that is.
dusty stirrup
Custom background with same "texture" as DoG p2's tail haha yes
floral linden
languid ermine
imagine the backgrounds changing from stardust to nebula and your fps dropping
then he noms you cuz you're still on the ground lagging
faint rivet
floral linden
ashen warren
floral linden
Ok
tired haven
@tepid wadi how about specifying this suggestion and making something like evil biome staves?
So, corruption one will be Demonite Bars, Amethysts and Diamods, crimson - Crimtane Bars, Topazes and Rubies
(Reason for double gems is using same palette while also being different from single gem staves). Slightly more powerful in all stats than Diamond Staff, obviously
Not very original idea, but it's quite simple and fits general staff progression
tepid wadi
I mean, I do not know anything
tired haven
And yeah, it's not pure bars but pure bars are not that interesting
tepid wadi
I mean when I defeated the eye of chargingalloverthescreen I wanted to make a magic weapon out of the bars and forgot that is not a thing
tired haven
Well yeah, I got this point
or maybe those staves shouldn't even use gems
Mhm
Wulfrum one doesn't after all
ashen warren
That's because wulfrum doesn't have a matching gem
It's also meant to be easy to obtain
void kelp
isn’t the evil biome magic weapon vilethorn/crimson cloud
tired haven
If that applies, melee and ranged have more options still, with bol of hurt/rotted fork and musket/the undertaker
summoner still sucks big one and rogue doesn't exist
keen palm
Specialist's Workstation
A workstation aimed at combining all the niche ones into one, for QOL sake, so you don't have to build a room dedicated to them or switch them out if you have magic storage installed.
Recipe: Sawmill, Loom, Table and Chair, Dye Vat, Imbuing Station, Bookcase, and Cooking Pot, all at a anvil ( Maybe mythril?)
radiant meadow
you could add keg
and maybe sky mill and ice machine since you can make stuff w/ them in Calamity
keen palm
Forgot them
wooden wigeon
doesn't the respective summoning killable spawn if you make an artificial of the other evil?
sinful steeple
Yes but that's unnecessarily bothersome
radiant bough
It does, dead
but they dont spread
unless its HM
and it makes it extremely tedious to farm for
lime mica
what suggestions?
void kelp
how would y’all feel about a scourge of the seas item like scourge of the corruptor, desert, and cosmos? kinda like a parallel to the scourge of the desert but for the aquatic scourge
there’s already the parallel w all the other items, so why not w the special rogue item?
lime mica
also:
A joke drop from DoG that drops around christmas, resembling a present. A Suspicious Present. Upon using, it spawns a massively buffed DoG that tries to kill you in the most unfair dumb way possible. Upon death, the DoG despawns and says in chat "You fell for that? Wow, I actually feel bad for you, kid. Take this." Upon the chat message spawning it spawns the actual prize from DoG, a random christmas vanity item. Nice meme 👌
and that sounds sick actually
scourge is one of my favorite bosses
probably my favorite
terse sundial
I'd be cool with a Scourge of the Sea rogue wep
radiant meadow
might happen in the rogue expansion update
radiant meadow
I only know of one future rogue weapon though
lime mica
it's a mini scourge you throw, that travels like a worm in a certain shape
maybe it homes in instead like the Pihrana Gun
pihrana? pirahna?
second one
oof i'm tired
void kelp
@tawdry shell I believe one of the f something commands should help you with that.
lost agate
Yeah like f11
void kelp
F5? F6? F7? one of them
tawdry shell
is it vanilla @void kelp
lost agate
Yup
void kelp
it’s a part of the game, yes.
tawdry shell
oh ok thank you
radiant meadow
It's f10
shows up in the bottom left hand corner when in game
top left in the main menu
void kelp
thoughts on the weapon?
radiant meadow
is it rev+ only?
void kelp
oh right I should add that— unless they don’t take suggestions along those lines? I forgot if revengance/expert exclusivity was a thing you could suggest
void kelp
ohhhh I understand thank you!
languid ermine
calamity should have a stat sheet
with all the absurd buffs it would be nice to have one so you know the exact % numbers you have buffed
unless that's already a thing
is it?
radiant meadow
not in Calamity
but Fargo's mutant mod has one
albeit, it doesn't factor in Calamity's caps into account
languid ermine
yeah something like
damage reduction: 23% +0.6%
it would be cool
should i make that suggestion?
earnest raptor
No really.
Fargo Mutant mod is enough fine and balanced to include into mod pack without messing with overpowered stuffs.
hollow shell
@proud isle uh ohhhh
ashen warren
@quiet abyss Hi, bonk that suggestion please.
earnest raptor
@proud isle ban
quiet abyss
@proud isle Oi, no meme suggestions, warned
lost agate
shit i missed it
quiet abyss
Next time, be sure to read the pins in here and #suggestions-voting so ya don't break any rules, alright?
hearty yew
proud isle
Why tho what’s the harm of NoThINg PErsOnAL KId memes
And just clalamity meme chat why is it banned
Seems strange
proud isle
Are*
earnest raptor
If you want childy memes, go to Reddit.
proud isle
I’m gonna go to a different discord to post memes bye
hollow shell
Cya
earnest raptor
👋
quiet abyss
👋
pale bluff
hollow shell
"And during the airtime of the Bomb's throw."
?
period supposed to be a comma?
There we go.
languid ermine
mood
hollow shell
Also yes I would love to have constant mode indicators on the screen, so you don't have to toggle them on and off in order to check if they're active or not
languid ermine
but it was already suggested
hollow shell
You can still suggest it
earnest raptor
But sprites = +30 free stars
hollow shell
We've got a system for repeats
lost agate
yeah suggest it, just leaving the fact it was thought about already
no one suggested it tho
not here at least
afaik
hollow shell
Some variations of that idea
have been suggested
There was definitely talk in the dev server about it regardless
Nothing came of it 
lost agate
yikes
spiral olive
perhaps in the future
languid ermine
iron heat has an indicator?
spiral olive
you can also disable it if you haven't killed a boss if you decide to go back
languid ermine
allright im gonna get my boyfriend to sketch some icon Indicators for me
ashen warren
its actually a good suggestion imo
languid ermine
he's crazy skilled at drawing
hollow shell
Nice
I mean they could just be miniature versions of their items sprites
Except Defiled Rune which would probably be a green-fiery skull
(It needs a resprite anyhow) 
languid ermine
yeah coud work but they have to be non intrusive
so maybe only when you open the inventory
hollow shell
Goodie
lost agate
(might wanna add the reason for it tho)
lost agate
yep
terse sundial
yeah
lost agate
its dead and we killed it
earnest raptor
I also skilled
hollow shell
earnest raptor
Just a examples, I too lazy to make something decent, while I'm in school.
languid ermine
done
hollow shell
Not necessarily what I meant by "green fiery skull"
was thinkin more like what's inside the Defiled Rune "icon"
Also nice.
languid ermine
the death one is magnificent
)
terse sundial
you can tell if rev is active by checking if you have rage/adrenaline though
unless you turned them off
languid ermine
you can disable them
hollow shell
No I mean
Those do a good job indicating Rev already
ohh right that's
that's what you mean
ok
Config
terse sundial
yeah
hollow shell
@earnest raptor no
languid ermine
if you have them disabled you need an indicator
ashen warren
is that a joke suggestion?
terse sundial
borderline
hollow shell
imma just get ridda that
terse sundial
ty Rover
earnest raptor
OK, thanks.
hollow shell
lol
languid ermine
what happens if I self star
languid ermine
oh so nono
quiet abyss
Self-starring is technically fine, but people will frown at ya and shame ya for it
lost agate
😤
languid ermine
nice selfstar lul
quiet abyss
Ye smth like that
ashen warren
Yes
pliant bone
Very yes
terse sundial
no, but it's obvious when you are the only one starring your suggestion
quiet abyss
Like all those suggestions where the problems is the owner of the suggestions and not the game's
"Nerf X please they're too hard for me I can't dodge"
languid ermine
the skele guy
quiet abyss
Eeyup
ashen warren
@proven tide Tends to notice self stars easily.
And then calls it out.
languid ermine
from yesterday lol
languid ermine
( ･ᴗ･ )
hollow shell
Speaking of stars
I'm probably going to hold a StrawPoll tomorrow (after I finish delivering the backed-ups) on whether or not to raise the star requirement again.
What're you guys' opinions on raising the star req?
proven tide
Yes
hollow shell
Probably going to become 90, up from 65
(others have suggested 100 but that seems like overkill)
devout seal
Oh, Rover
did Abyss Gravel ever get renamed to Vanadite like i suggested
languid ermine
:sweatin:
ashen warren
90 sounds nice
hollow shell
No Ion
devout seal
Darn.
proven tide
90 is a pretty good middle ground
ashen warren
maybe vote for it??
lost agate
make it 91 because har har suggestion bot star
hollow shell
Yeah I'm gonna hold a poll
pliant bone
90 is pretty nice.
Like as if most bad/unlikely suggestions dont reach 70+ at all
hollow shell
Tomorrow
ashen warren
ok then
cloud sage
Maybe 85? 80?
hollow shell
The raising is higher than before (+25 versus the previous 35 to 50 to 60, which were +15) so that we won't need to do another raising any time soon
The 50 to 65 raise wasn't that long ago
ashen warren
Like a month or smth.
hollow shell
the 35 to 50 was ~4 months before the 50 to 65
the 50 to 65 was ~2.5 months before now
so
We gotta get ahead of the game a little
if this
exponential curve is any evidence
spiral olive
Bar getting raised higher and higher
That’s good, filter out the unwanted suggestions
lost agate
And even if its raised, some suggestions are still ignored
hollow shell
Theoretically less of the sent suggestions would get ignored if less are sent
ashen warren
It could just be changed to a red and black 🎵
low remnant
anything to make it easier to spot
silent berry
calamity pic with a 🎵 in the corner
mental linden
Music Box only accessary slot(like wing slot mod)
pliant bone
frail mantle
Extra accessory slots are a pain to code when you have more than 7 iirc
ashen warren
👏 Better 👏 Music 👏 Boxes
fossil torrent
that suggestion
the ones including the background is practically impossible to code with terraria's limitations
for example aureus jumping in? naah
ashen warren
I'm guessing it'd be like the pumpkin in abaddon for cryo and stuff.
But otherwise yar.
molten hearth
@pure vector 1: that's been suggested before. 2: overhaul + Calamity = glitches every 5 seconds
pliant bone
That would be either impossible to code or very very painful to code.
keen nebula
Why does everyone have shitty ideas?? We need more creative members
How about that for a suggestion
reef swift
does everyone here realize that its terraria, not some massive standalone rpg
keen nebula
Every boss should have a smash style title card when they appear on screen, freezing the fight for a few seconds
But only the first time
languid ermine
"Supreme Calamitas
Gamers into your world"
hollow shell
Or Gungeon-style
if you prefer.
If that were possible I'd freaking love to have that
languid ermine
that would be epic
void kelp
ngl Id love a siren and leviathan fight where levi is seen in the background
candid mantle
id love a siren and leviathan fight buff
faint rivet
Xcuse me wtf
ashen warren
wh
faint rivet
You want that annoying duo buffed?
faint rivet
Yeah wtf
lime mica
Aesthetic male versions of the elemental summons gained by crafting the summon item with a gender change potion. Not lewd, just for those of us who think big tiddy chaos GF clashes a little with our gear
thoughts?
I don’t wanna post this before getting feedback
I find myself laughing a bit walking around in stardust armor looking like something from space and then I have this woman floating by me aimlessly
frail mantle
that'd mean making 6 different accessories and sprites just because some people don't want big tiddy chaos gfs floating around them
frail mantle
tbh i don't know why you'd even want to have them around since they're pretty useless
sinful steeple
I'd say yes to a HoTE with like other elementals and crap but because male HoTE is completely pointless
frail mantle
better to just turn off visibility
frail mantle
at least you discussed it here first instead of just posting it
lost agate
Lol
ashen warren
if you prefer both, do you get double?
faint rivet
hollow shell
lime mica
it’s just the normal elemental but jacked as hell
only thing different about the sprites is the arms and the fact that they’re posing
Please add an accessory that gives you the kanji for Menacing floating around you
hollow shell
But only if its modifier is Menacing
lost agate
Make an earth elemental and call him shiza
frail mantle
then send it in a different server
gaunt karma
I had an idea to make the victide set bonus and sun spirit staff more useful, which is to make the urchin and the sun spirit rotate around you in circles
gaunt karma
How it currently is it rarely hits bosses, sun spirit against even EoC is completely useless
lost agate
Yeah but victicide is cool
gaunt karma
how many bosses have you fought where flipper effect is useful lol
gaunt karma
if the urchin and the sun spirit rotated around you in a circle, they'd hit stuff more consistently. As summoner the seashells don't do too much. That's what my problem is here.
lost agate
Sun spirit is only meant to be an easily accesible extra dmg
Not the only thing you will use
ashen warren
what exactly would having them rotate achieve?
lost agate
^
gaunt karma
gets a bit closer to the boss, depending on how you're fighting them
lost agate
Uh no, if they circle around you, YOU have to get closer
gaunt karma
If they're closer to the boss it can hit them more frequently. I'm posting here for suggestions on how to improve the suggestion or if it's at all useful
lost agate
And they might even miss more often
gaunt karma
that's fair
maybe instead of rotating around you, have them move closer to the boss in the same circle thing
like have them move closer to the nearest enemy on that invisible circle around you if that makes sense
lost agate
Why do you want an early summon to be so ungodly good vs a fast boss?
ashen warren
that wouldn't even make it ungodly good though
gaunt karma
No, not really
ashen warren
with the staff changes nothing and with the urchin it makes it maybe slightly better
gaunt karma
Slightly more viable for a while probably
lost agate
Or rather, why do you wanna change it just to have it hit eoc?
ashen warren
probably because eoc is a boring slog of resummoning for summoner
lost agate
Eh fair
gaunt karma
it really is
Summoner is 100% my favourite class, but it's not even that hard of a boss. Just really time consuming
Death mode sucks if you're solo early game
lost agate
Tbf i think that it would be cool to have a something that dashes fastly to counter act eoc
Or something that can at least get on the way of eoc dashes constantly
gaunt karma
yeah
stupid but; imagine Tetris blocks that follow you around at the same speed as you
Actually, having something that took up a decent amount of area and didn't target enemies but instead followed you would be pretty useful for EoC
frail mantle
@ashen warren what are you suggesting and why
elder kestrel
isn't that more of a reference than a collab
like, im pretty sure a collab is when both parties (in this case the devs) agree to add content from one of said games into the another
eager palm
what the fuck
ashen warren
well yeah
elder kestrel
example; the terraria and dd2 collab
ashen warren
but i was thinking if i could get a suggestion going in the official ror2 discord for them to add a calamity mod nod
it COULD be a collab
frail mantle
but why
ashen warren
why not
eager palm
lole
frail mantle
that's not a good reason
elder kestrel
again, that's more of a reference than a collab
eager palm
"why not" is the worst reason
delicate vector
A Risk of Rain reference would be fun, yes, like a marine vanity set
frail mantle
you should have an actual reason why you want it in the mod except "add this eggs dee"
ashen warren
really that's just my go to quick response but really i feel same energy from just getting mauled in both calamity and ror2
elder kestrel
also; your suggestion isn't really much, just saying collab isn't helping, you need to specify what exactly the nod would be
afaik fab never even played RoR
ashen warren
i shoulda specified yeah that's fair
elder kestrel
also, replace collab with reference
ashen warren
the reference can be one of the items in ror that is relatively unique to the massive accessory pool of calamity
gaunt karma
that's very broad
"i want a reference but i don't know what also i don't really have a reason to put it in"
ashen warren
well i'm gonna keep editing it i just kinda jumped the gun
limited it to an accessory at the very least
gonna refine my suggestion
delicate vector
It could be an astral biome thing
Like a weapon that shoots the wandering vagrant's projectiles, for example
gusty geode
Does anyone else think that Doppel-Cal's first phase where vanilla's Boss 2 plays should be removed? Imo it kinda lost its magic when the remix of that song that played in the 2nd phase was replaced
lost agate
Its kind of there to fool you into thinking its an easy simple boss
ashen warren
I still think it's a good fit for phase 1, because it surprises the player (because they think it's a bit easy and uses generic music) when they get into phase 2 and Raw, Unfiltered Calamity starts playing.
lost agate
And its like "oshit"
ashen warren
it only really works for your first playthrough though, every repeat playthrough isn't going to be the same experience
lost agate
Yeah its more of a first impression
And it lets you know about splitting lasers before all the other madness appears
So it doesnt shove all the new mechanics for the boss on your throat all at once
frail mantle
another Yharim's Army suggestion
gaunt dagger
There was more? @frail mantle
gaunt dagger
Oh,sorry,i will delete it then
But, if so many people ask for it,why its still not added.
frail mantle
because the devs don't think it's a good idea, and Fab hates coding events apparently
floral linden
I suggested a raid event which would be even more difficult lul
gaunt dagger
Why it's a bad idea, it would actually make sense
frail mantle
well the devs don't like the idea
terse sundial
well, that's not true
most devs want a horde event
but it's extremely painful to code and to sprite
frail mantle
^
floral linden
It's not that it's a bad Idea, it's more the fact that it would be exceeding difficult to code, especially in the case of my suggestion.
terse sundial
It's more or less, more bosses and other content, or the horde event
floral linden
And yea, sproots. 
gaunt dagger
Then make Yharim related enemies, not bosses, just mini bosses or even normal enemies.
floral linden
Still needs sprites
frail mantle
that still requires coding and spriting
gusty geode
I support a Yharim army
We hear about this massive unstoppable legion with Yharim at the helm all the time in the lore, but we don't see a single one of his soldiers, with the exception of the Plaguebringers and the top-ranking fighters like Yharon
If it's so hard to code, maybe it could just wait until post-development when all the easier stuff is out of the way
terse sundial
pretty sure that's the plan atm
floral linden
Actually... you don't suppose we'll see the army fight as minions during the Yharim fight, will we?
hollow shell
The devs have never rejected or spoken against a Yharim's Army event in concept, afaik
Maybe specific suggestions about its implementation
but not the idea itself
@gusty geode Can you name some examples?
The only stupidly frequent ideas I can recall aren't explicitly rejected
gusty geode
Maybe there are better examples but it's all I got offhand
hollow shell
Alright
languid ermine
Grazing mechanic
I'm pretty sure i saw it somewhere that it would never get implemented
or you know
the classsic
"nerf halibut"
floral linden
Grazing mechanic would only work if we made the player hitbox the size of a typical Touhou player hitbox.
fossil torrent
Exo gun and vanquisher bullets, although those can be varied so not really
gusty geode
Yeah, some of them were good ideas and there was never an explanation given as to why they weren't added
keen nebula
Why is halibut obtainable in prehm anyway
Yeah it's rare but that doesn't stop people from getting it
opal barn
It's a one in a million drop so like, have fun farming for it in phm
void kelp
you should see the advice some people give in #help-advice-read-pins XD so many people being like “use halibut it’s really good”
gusty geode
Yeah, iirc before the nerf it was priority #1, even above building a house, to get the halibut asap when playing ranger
I might have even seen people telling non-rangers to get it at some point
hollow shell
There's been a few but you can make one if you like
ashen warren
Are any being implemented at the moment?
because if they are, then I don't feel as if I should suggest it.
I am not good with names anyway
it's just an upgraded version of radiant star that is made with 5 of each lunar fragment
hollow shell
Hm yeah Crystalline upgrade line is fleshed out enough as is
radiant meadow
rogue probably will get a lot more content in the expansion update
1.4.2.201 I think?
ashen warren
I just beat death moon lord with rogue
fight took 12 fucking minutes
rogue definately needs something to help it with lunar events
hollow shell
Aside from Xeroc Pitchfork
hollow shell
I used it just fine . _.
hybrid ocean
yo i'm gonna post an epic gamer suggestion
Sniper-Like weapons/accesories for Rogue class
just because stealthy stuff is neat.
Accesories:
Dummy, (yeah, that's it, most original name evah)
"yep, that was gonna happen to you"
Recipe: 50 Hay - 20 Silk - 15 Wood - Probably something else
Effect: Makes you untargetable by enemies for some time, deploys a dummy and makes you dash on the direction you are heading.
+10% Damage when you are 10 blocks apart from the enemy (while untargetable)
Dummy has 200 hp and 3 defense
Could have Upgrades but the suggestion would be too big (may do it later tho)
Weapons:
Sniper-like weapons! because Rogue should at least have a Sniper Rifle because stealthy stuff and because they are awesome
Basic Sniper:
"because ranger is overrated"
Has the same aiming effect as the Sniper Rifle.
Does more damage the farther you are from the enemy, with a cap.
Crafted during pre-hardmode, Would work well with Dummy based accesories
Can have upgrades like the dummy
Basically i'm suggesting a Sniper Sub Class for Rogue based on deploying dummies, distracting enemies and shooting em from far away.
Too big?
livid coral
👀 Expand this
cyan lagoon
👁
hybrid ocean
just thought a sub-class based on distracting enemies and then make them feel really stupid shooting them would be cool
livid coral
I love the idea of a dummy that can attract other enemies to it so you can escape and then attack them.
You could probably craft that with the Statis Belt so every time you get hit you have a chance to dodge and then drop a dummy
hybrid ocean
maybe it can be an upgrade
livid coral
Also sniper rifles would be great as well. There was only ever one and it's in Vanilla and kind of garbago.
hybrid ocean
Like,
Dummy -> The Meat Shield/Vile Protector -> Static Dummy -> Shelled Distractor -> Cryogen's Guardian -> Astral Hologram -> idk
livid coral
That could work
hybrid ocean
just some bad names i came with
pre-boss -> post-hives -> slime god -> hardmode sunken sea -> cryogen -> astral, they pretty obvious
aight, almost forgot to post it
also who the hell uses Vanilla Sniper Rifle on a normal situation
hollow shell
@lucid marsh Why not buff the player instead?
It'd be a lot easier than reducing the stats of every boss
also config*
radiant meadow
I think it's like if you want expert stats but death AI for example
late shale
Hey guys, I was thinking of an suggestion. Sometimes it can be difficult to tell when a boss enrages/you aren't sure if you're still in the right biome, etc. What if the boss health bar turned red, and next to the boss in parenthesis was (Enraged) ?
late shale
It's always funny watching youtubers wonder why they aren't damaging the boss much/why it hits way too hard, and I just kinda thought about it
quick dove
i was checking on help and advice , someone wasnt doing damage to deus and they told him ''its because gravity pot enrage''
i had no idea and this could've come to bite my ass on the future
you have my star
late shale
yeah I completely forgot deus enrages when you're upside down, I added that too
radiant meadow
the enrages and stuff should be on the wiki now at least
regarding grav shenanigans
quick dove
maybe
hollow shell
Is it poll time?
I think it's poll time.
Many suggestions (a little under half of all posted) have been reaching the current delivery requirement of 65 stars. In order to give the devs more of a focus and to further separate the cream from the crop, we are proposing that the star requirement be raised to 90.
Linked is a poll where you can vote on whether you think the star requirement should be kept at 65 stars, or if it should be raised to 90 stars.
(Note: All suggestions made prior to the official raising will still only require 65 stars)
(Note 2: This suggestion is higher than the previous +15 raisings (35 to 50, 50 to 65) due to the apparent exponential growth of server members, and to increase the timeframe in between raisings.)
https://www.strawpoll.me/17731531
@radiant meadow pin that
radiant meadow
hollow shell
Thankya
late shale
👍
terse sundial
Termi pined the wrong message
proven tide
radiant meadow
fuck
radiant meadow
terse sundial
bravo
radiant meadow
I tried
proven tide
late shale
question though
once my suggestion reaches 65 starts (if it does), will it be counted for that, or 90 if the 90 vote wins?
radiant meadow
if it the suggestion was sent before the star count is raised, it uses 65 stars
hollow shell
All suggestions made prior to the official raising will still only require 65 stars
late shale
alright 😄
hollow shell
👍
hollow shell
Edited.
Oh boy, the poll is closer than I expected
I mean, I knew it'd be closer than the previous 50 to 65 poll because the raising is larger than before
but now I'm nervous
ashen warren
I dunno why folks are voting no, people complain about suggestions never being accepted all the time.
This can only help.
radiant meadow
but it won't be accepted if it never gets sent 
gusty geode
I'd be ok if it was raised a bit, but not to 90
80 maybe
late shale
I voted yes, but imo I feel like 90 is too high
but I know really good suggestions will easily reach 90, as well
quick dove
got sent to the devs
summer egret
Oh
quick dove
approved is a flag
summer egret
And I will never know what they think of it
ashen warren
Is blue checkmark gud?
terse sundial
that is a suggestion that has been suggested before
quick dove
ech my memory
hot zephyr
Maybe the star count should be increased but I think 90 is too high. There's some non-major suggestions that totally should be considered that aren't as "flashy" as some suggestions.
ornate pecan
Well at the rate this is going my suggestions are fucked, I mean seriously I barely getting by the 65 stars mark
hot zephyr
What if instead of giving a "star" to posts you'd like, you'd "anti-star" a bad suggestion.
ornate pecan
A Ztar
hot zephyr
Platinum Ztar
earnest raptor
⚡
ornate pecan
Hey admins can we get a Platinum Ztar emoji so that way we can downvote shitty suggestions
earnest raptor
☄
ornate pecan
I like this flower already
ashen warren
That's OP as fuck tbh.
quick dove
people already use the exclamation point reaction for ''didnt get reviewed by mods yet'' as a dislike button for some 4Head brain reason
summer egret
I wonder if someone else already thought of it though
It isnt really op
Its still got potion sickness
ashen warren
It's a death-prevention item.
ornate pecan
A bit late to that convo dude
summer egret
Its post plantera
Fuckin
Ectoblood is post plantera
And only if you got hella good potions
quick dove
still
summer egret
Even then, you'll come back with like 5 health
quick dove
mega good death prevention
ashen warren
I got the idea that it ignored sickness since it wasn't mentioned tbh.
Or at least reduced it a bunch cause charm of myths.
proud isle
So why is there always sombody to fucking murder you for mentioning memes
ashen warren
Because no meme suggestions?
proud isle
I didn’t even suggest it tho
I just said
Nobody:
Calamity discord: we’ll kill you for posting memes
then they got mad
I’ll move to general
radiant meadow
why here though?
ashen warren
because Lunar armor are better
terse sundial
ashen warren
I'm sorry but polterghast facetank memes
radiant meadow
they each have their own pros and cons 
solar flare dash is longer than elysian which can be pretty valuable
lost agate
This is like one of the few chats were there are strictly no memes
Read up would you
And saying stuff here means youre suggesting, because the freaking chat name exists
And ofc we are gonna be up your throat if you aint following rules
lost agate
@ashen warren what key even?
earnest raptor
What key?
quick dove
the shadow key is fine to craft
ashen warren
Oops
earnest raptor
Cryo Key is ultimately cheap.
lost agate
Add a reason too
ashen warren
My brain was running faster than my thumbs
real parrot
it's not even that hard to craft
ice, some souls, and eleum cores
earnest raptor
ice
annoying to get
real parrot
heck i mean essence
ashen warren
which is even easier
real parrot
you know what i meant
earnest raptor
Or titanium pickaxe.
ashen warren
Green solution 
earnest raptor
^
ashen warren
Cleanse like 500 in 2 seconds then mine it.
real parrot
unholy water works too iirc
ashen warren
Bam, cryo keys for days.
real parrot
if you can't buy clentaminator
ashen warren
Fine fine sorry i said anything
earnest raptor
Purification powder
ashen warren
Doesn't it just make pink ice into purple?
lost agate
The biggest problem is essence, since nothing drops it 100%
lost agate
Not even claspers drop it 100%
ashen warren
1-5 100% or smth
ashen warren
Nah, golem since it's hard to kill.
lost agate
Then yeah that could work, since golem is indeed hard, needs rain and is a miniboss
ashen warren
Well, harder than claspers imo.
Maybe its bc of builders workshop that I'm not willing to farm the materials anymlre
sinful violet
cinder
ashen warren
Smh it should be renamed it to cinder again.
Sunlight essence from rainy bois is odd.
sinful violet
what
lost agate
Rainy boys?
ashen warren
The clouds.
sinful violet
so it's not the essence of "storm and sky" anymore???
lost agate
Cinder makes even less sense tho
sinful violet
Does it even drop from nimbuses anymore??
lost agate
Clouds have nothing to do with cinder
sinful violet
oh god what is my life
ashen warren
Tru
lost agate
From nimbuses yeah i think
ashen warren
Just remove the cloud and make sunskaters spawn lower in HM or smth.
shrugs
Essences of Calamity is pretty low spawn rate too
lost agate
Pfttt no
earnest raptor
Sunlight drops from sky and rain creatures.
sinful violet
Just go to crags for a bit
lost agate
^
ashen warren
You mean chaos?
It's the easiest.
lost agate
Literally everything there can drop em
earnest raptor
I always get 4x more chaos essences, that others.
sinful violet
Sunskater? Ye sure. Shockstorm shuttle? Used to make some sense. Sun bat, yes. Wyvern? A stretch, but it flies ig. Cloud elemental is just confusing.
And imo, the sand tortoises fit it better than stuff like shockstorm and cloud ele
Reptiles bask in the sun for hours and it's a desert creature, where most of the stuff is sun themed anyhow
earnest raptor
Would be good give a drop to Temple creatures. 
sinful violet
That seems fair, but entirely useless
You're only really having issues with them early hm, when you can't melt everything in the sky
ashen warren
More surface desert enemies that drop sunlight and removing it from the rainy stuff would be nice.
sinful violet
Yeah, that seems fair
earnest raptor
Cnidrion is underground creature
hot zephyr
I think a “clone” of Calamitas would be an exact double while a doppelgänger would just be a lookalike
sinful violet
Essence of Flare maybe.
real parrot
lanND is correct about that
a doppelgänger implies that the calamitas you just fought is fake, whereas a clone would imply that you fought a "copy" of the real deal
ashen warren
Eleum should definitely be renamed tbh.
Winter or something.
Sunlight makes it desert, flare would make shockstorm make sense again.
Hmm
formal prism
I like the idea of increasing sentry summon caps, as suggested by Trashbox Bobylev, you can do a lot of damage if you can summon a small army of Profaned Energies. Calamity doesn't add too many sentry summons, and the only way to increase them is to get the Vanilla Old One's Army loot that Betsy drops.
dusty stirrup
Because 5 Hive Pods weren't enough
ashen warren
formal prism
well, you can summon up to eight sentries if you use the sentry accessory glitch, that's practically cheating though.
correction, eight if you only use the glitch accessory.
ruby cobalt
So, all of them.
formal prism
the armors can boost your sentry limit too, they're pre-moon lord in terms of strength though.
sentry boosting items would be great, as long as they are less buggy than the DD2 Crossover content.
drowsy imp
Thats one of the reasons why I want to make an upgrade for spirit glyph and ogre drops, it might also be nice to have another sentry post providence for that as well
formal prism
ehh, i've heard the vanilla Crossover content is... buggy. the only thing calamity changes is that it adds one item to Betsy's loot bag.
ruby cobalt
The only bug it has is caused by TML.
tired haven
It's kinda not too buggy, apart from one TML bug regarding sentry accessories
ruby cobalt
Garbage balancing isnt a bug, just so you know.
And listing wrong shit in tooltips because you rush your shit.
formal prism
ah, point.
void river
What if there were chlorophyte slimes
void river
Still a pain to grind though
ashen warren
It's probably because they're lazy and want to just zerg ore.
ashen warren
Chlorophyte is barely used last time I checked.
Mage makes the armor but that's it.
void river
What aboug for shroomite and spectre stuff
ashen warren
shroomite is meh